Doctor Who 2x11 Reaction | Fear Her | First Time Watching

[@nupefromdaville]

Are We Afraid of the Wrong Things? My Take on Doctor Who's "Fear Her" Is the real monster the one we can see, or the one lurking within? "Fear Her" had me rethinking fear itself! In my new video, I dissect this creepy Doctor Who episode, explore the psychology of fear, and ask... are we facing the right threats? Click the link below to confront your fears! kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6DFmqmqaL2cmqc #DoctorWho #FearHer #PsychologyOfFear #NewVideo

[@Stuart_Cox1969]

When Dr Who first started he was travelling with his Granddaughter Susan.

[@HuntingViolets]

Nina Sosanya (the mother) was one of Tennant's love interests in _Casanova_ and also appears in _Good Omens,_ which you should watch.

[@IslesYankeeLady]

I counted how many projects of David’s she’s overlapped in and unless I’m missing one, it’s kind of 9. Random order- Casanova, Good Omens, Staged, People Like Us, Twenty Twelve and then the sequel W1A, Doctor Who of course, You, Me and Him, and 96 Ways to Say I Love You. I call her one of David’s actor wives/friends. Fenella Wolgar who also appears on Doctor Who, is another. I just counted 6 overlapping projects, and that doesn’t include more Doctor Who work that she’s done apart from him.

[@briangressett902]

When the 2012 Olympics actually happened During the Open ceremonies you could hear the Tardis noise at one point.

[@The_Nordic_Doctor]

and (spoilers ofc kind of for the reactors) ...........................................................................................................................................................matt smith carried the torch

[@mareiramv]

Since people already told you guys about the line about the Doctor being a dad, I'll talk about the torch. In 2012 people tried to make that happen in real life and it did happen, kind of. It wasn't David Tennant, but the actor playing the Doctor at that time did carry the torch.

[@SpiderRiderKya]

So, re: Chloe, I *think* what was going on was that she was lonely in that, her mother refused to talk about what had happened with her father. As she said 'Chloe got it the worst' but her mother's way of coping was to just, not talk about it. 'He's gone now so there's no need to talk about him' meanwhile, he daughter is still suffering from nightmares of her abusive father, but has no one to talk to about it. The one person she could connect with about this experience, did not want to talk about it. Which ties into the mother's story arc of, you know, being there for her daughter and talking about it. She didn't draw him cause she wanted him cause she was lonely but, probably just to like, vent, to get to get it out there. Sometimes when you're in a bad headspace you just gotta, write or draw to deal w/ whatever is bothering you. It's just that she was being possessed by that powerful energy being child that was giving the drawing life.

[@simongiles9749]

Which is why he's drawn as demonic scary daddy hidden in the closet, it's the classic thing of an emotionally disturbed child drawing things in lots of black with death and sorrow. In the similar-themed 80s film Paperhouse, the girl draws a house and visits in her dreams. So she draws her absent father into the house but accidentally makes him look angry, so the dream father is scary. She scribbles out his face. Now he's a blind, faceless, angry scary father.

[@SpiderRiderKya]

Nope! The Doctor was a dad at some point. And a grandfather. This isn't the first time it's come up. It came up back w/ the 9th Doctor during The Empty Child(the 'are you my mummy?' one). Doctor Constantine commented that 'before the war I was a father and grandfather, but now I'm neither, but still a doctor' and The Doctor said he 'knew the feeling' he wasn't just talking about being a doctor there. His first ever companion was his granddaughter, Susan. Which suggests he had at least one kid (tho son or daughter is unknown).

[@blaiddmawrdrwg918]

And also on episode 8 on fathers day the doctor said ro Rose, about he travel back and save his family but he can't

[@iansmith4023]

In the Classic series, his first companion was a member of his family. The line 'being a Dad once' seems to have been included as a callback

[@CyberController-]

Bro just left Susan on post-Dalek Earth because she kissed a guy.

[@josefschiltz2192]

@@CyberController- He was monitoring the whole exchange between Susan and David, so he did hear Susan say that she loved David. He would have had to have been totally immune or blind to the emotions displayed by both at the thought of parting.

[@CyberController-]

@@josefschiltz2192 I would say that pain would've been important for her, given how comparatively young she was.

[@josefschiltz2192]

@@CyberController- Yes, indeed. Carole portrayed that torn up emotion very well. Certainly gets to me every time I see it.

[@HuntingViolets]

@@josefschiltz2192 He could have descendants on Earth now.

[@TRANZEURO]

When Doctor Who first started way back in 1963 his very first companion was his granddaughter Susan.

[@adamoswaldplayz9416]

not just a dad but a grandfather too

[@captainsplifford]

Schrödinger's cat!! I made the very same comment when I first saw this episode in 2006. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@andrewroberts299]

‘Fear Her’ is certainly better than the previous episode, ‘Love and Monsters,’ (not that is anything to crow about), but they’ve saved the best till last (the last two episodes) which are up next. Think both of you are going to love them (and the Christmas epIsode afterwards!)

[@HuntingViolets]

Honestly, the way the kids came back and everyone was just happy, riding their bikes, riding on dad's shoulders, etc., I don't think they remember going into the drawings, and I don't even think they the parents have a memory of their children being missing. The old lady remembers. Old ladies have power that way. ;)

[@deathswitch2404]

It's a weird situation but I can still see her being lonely her father died. There are stories of people having the worst father's imaginable yet still being sad they died. This isn't a spoiler because its from the 1st doctor and i can't remember if it's ever stated in the 2005 reboot. His first companion was his granddaughter, Susan.

[@ellick74]

"Jodeci, Guy, Dru Hill..." Alien might just like that. lol

[@Professor_Murder]

This is legit my guilty pleasure episode. I just love it.

[@blaiddmawrdrwg918]

Hi there is a audio called Battle Scars (audio story) this is an audio story for the 9th doctor on this one is based just after his regeneration that happen exactly on the last day of the Time war, he was so emotional and physical damage that he broke all the mirrows on the Tardis so he spend around 900 years with out seein his face after the regeneration, about his age the doctor is increadible old because each Face is capable to leave a very long time. Now on the classic he never show any partivular interest or atraction for some one different than a Galiffreyan. But now his people is gone, Rose was the fist human companion after the time war, she helps him to get better that is why this regeneration is diffetent this 10th Face is more dashin and more emotional specialy with Rose she is a very important part of emotional center.❤❤

[@iiTzPredatorHD]

I can't wait for the next two episodes!

[@catherine140864]

I used to think this was an absolutely terrible episode, but I came around to it a bit more recently. It had some good themes. 'Love and Monsters' is great and I love it!

[@HuntingViolets]

There's an episode for everyone, I think, and every episode is loved by someone.

[@Ronariverah]

Yeah I love it.

[@beatricemcgarvey1198]

I really want council kel to come back in another series. He made this episode icl

[@BiasFree]

I remembering watching the 2012 Olympics opening and I was so hoping they would have David Tenet actually run the torch. unfortunately it didn't happen.

[@HuntingViolets]

That's when you knew we were in the bad timeline.

[@Sheeponaut]

If you survive S2 episodes 10 and 11 then your reward is episodes 12 and 13. Can't wait! :D

[@JackBarrugon]

The Doctor travels with Susan, his granddaughter, in the first ever episode. Fan debates revolving around whether the Doctor ever had a family tended to pass this off, unrealistically, as saying that 'granddaughter' was just a term of affection. A very weird one if true though. The family comments in the modern series have clarified that the Doctor did have a family to end that debate, really.

[@OldManFerdiad]

Susan is absolutely The Doctor's Granddaughter. The classic series didn't go much for continuity until the early 80s when the new producer (showrunner) started introducing continuity elements in the run up to the 20th anniversary. But in the 80s there was a sort of moralising around the idea of an older man running around with young companions, almost exclusively young women, that didn't seem to be an issue in the 60s and 70s. Peter Davison (the fifth Doctor) talks about how he wasn't allowed to hug or touch his female companions in case it looked like he was taking advantage of them. That's the environment the "granddaughter is just a term of affection" thing started. But if you think about it, an old man travelling around with a schoolgirl who calls him "grandfather" and isn't actually related probably is not better!

[@JackBarrugon]

@@OldManFerdiad Exactly, that 'term of affection' thing was, as I say, very weird.

[@OldManFerdiad]

@@JackBarrugon I think it was JNT, it was all very "no sex on the TARDIS".

[@HuntingViolets]

@@OldManFerdiad Sort of an adoptive grandfather. But, yeah, I definitely prefer if she's just his granddaughter and he had a life before all this stuff.

[@paulhammond6978]

@@OldManFerdiad I'm pretty sure "old man travelling around with a young girl" was considered pretty weird in the 60s too, and that was why in the original setup they made Susan into the Doctor's grandchild so that people wouldn't be asking whether there was something wrong with that scenario.

[@jankyteeth6213]

Doctor (being an Timelord) can see through past , present and future at the same time telepathically. I don’t know how true it is to being canon or being expended universe meterial. But I bet the Doctors mental brain gets all sorts of trips while travelling through time

[@HuntingViolets]

It's very possible to be lonely and sad after being abused and having the abuse stop; I don't really have a problem with that part.

[@purrceys7959]

The next 2 episodes (which are a 2 part story) "are 2 of my favourite episodes with David Tennant.

[@sallyatticum]

I suspect this story was inspired by the 1988 movie Paperhouse in which a little girl can go into her pictures with her scary dad among other things. And she crumpled up her drawing which affected the drawing world

[@gestaltdude]

The Doctor's family has been a subject of much debate. When the series started back in 1963, he was traveling with his granddaughter, Susan, who was believed to have been coming back in the season 14/1 finale. Other than that, we know virtually nothing about his family, except that they had an estate of some sort. The Doctor doing not quite understanding human norms, sometimes before being corrected by their companion, is one of my favourite parts of New Who. Ten eating jam with his fingers is one. Then there's the line, "she's my carer, She cares so I don't have to," but that's a while away yet. Funny to think 2012 was six years in the future when this episode aired, but is now twelve years in the past. Damn I'm old....Oddly enough, I've been going through the same thing with my youngest. She can't make things disappear, but she went from being so talkative it was like living with The Riddler to being a functional mute. Got to love the teenage years. :P

[@CyberController-]

This episode was made last minute on a shoe-string budget because a different episode concept fell through.

[@cryptozoomauler5505]

I did not know that. What was the episode that got cancelled?

[@The_Nordic_Doctor]

I like this one too! I get why it's criticized and frowned upon but imo it's fun! and I like the dr carrying the torch! which they should've done with the real 2012 olympics with DT but it's still nice that at least we got the tardis sound. though as a cat person I kinda dislike the comment from the dr, not being a cat person, but it can/does supposedly make sense because of events

[@HuntingViolets]

Ah, he'll probably love cats later; he's mercurial that way.

[@josefschiltz2192]

I actually like this one as an original concept and far better than Love And Monsters. I remember the Kookaburra song from infants school back in the 60s.

[@ftumschk]

I went to a Welsh primary school, and for years I thought the Kookaburra song was from Wales. Mind you, the version we sang had Welsh lyrics about a blackbird :) I can still remember them nearly 60 years later: Dacw di yn eistedd, y deryn du, Brenin y goedwig mawr wyt ti; Cân, dere, deryn! Cân, dere, deryn! Dyna un hardd wyt ti.

[@josefschiltz2192]

@@ftumschk Blackbird, sitting there, the king of the forest. Sing, come along and sing, You are one so beautiful? Sorry if I hashed that up. My father was the polyglot! Sometimes I can barely speak English!! Was that even close??

[@sallyatticum]

I suspect this story was inspired by the 1988 movie Paperhouse in which a little girl can go into her pictures with her scary dad among other things. And she crumpled up her drawing much like the scribble..

[@josefschiltz2192]

@@sallyatticum Ah. Well doesn't that show that total originality is very difficult to come across!!

[@ftumschk]

@@josefschiltz2192 "big" forest... otherwise pretty darned good :)

[@Persewna4]

I don't think she's lonely because her abusive father is gone, I think she's lonely because she has no one to process the complex emotions she feels after his passing. During the abuse, it's likely that Chloe and her mother were in survival mode, which means focusing on getting through another day, another fit of rage, which leaves little room to process feelings. You have to put those aside in order to survive. But once her father passed and they were given the room to breathe, it means the emotions that had to be repressed during the abuse were able to resurface and demand proper attention. However, Chloe's mom's response was to continue repressing, to refuse to talk about what they had been through, and what they are feeling now they're on the other side. That's what made Chloe feel lonely, she has no one with whom to share her feelings and help her understand them. There's a good chance she had trouble making friends during the abuse, and as a result now doesn't have friends to talk to, to confide in. She can't even process her nightmares about her father because her mom just sings them away and then doesn't acknowledge them later. For me, I find this episode to be okay, not great, but watchable. Definitely better than Idiot's Lantern, because the "villain" of this episode is a bit easier to understand - they're just two children using child logic to not feel so lonely. I feel like this episode was trying to comment on childhood trauma and abuse, I just don't think it was executed as well as it could have been. But Rose and the Doctor are fun together, and I do like how this episode flips the ending of Idiot's Lantern, where the Doctor is taken instead, and it's up to Rose to save the day. I think this episode, as well as Love & Monsters and The Idiot's Lantern suffer by being surrounded by the really great episodes of the rest of the season, especially with The Impissible Planet/The Aatan Pit just being spectacular, one of the best stories in the series. But hey, you made it through the slog, and OMG it will be worth it, the next episodes are just Fantastic, I cannot wait to see your reactions!!!

[@Velociraptour]

It's Kel from the council!

[@Seereene1]

I have very fond memories of this episode. Stop letting IMBD or Rotten Tomatoes influence your opinion of antthing! I just remember wishing I had that power as a kid. Ha! There'd have been a bunch of people removed..lol. It reminded me of the Twilight zone segment of the child terrorizing his family with powers.

[@fayesouthall6604]

Much better than that. It’s about the trauma of childhood.

[@simongiles9749]

Starring Billy "Will Robinson" Mumy.

[@OldManFerdiad]

I think this story gets a bad rap. I know it was made with less time and budget as they normally would as another story fell through. Maybe with a bit more pre-production they could have produced something just as memorable as "It's A Good Life" from The Twilight Zone. It's a bit of a pity as I think Nina Sosanya is a brilliant actor and really does a lot with what she's given. Abisola Agbaje as Chloe is also very good for a young actor. Maybe it suffers from being quite close to the other 'domestic' story Idiot's Lantern, which has a more vibrant setting? Or being set in Summer while clearly being shot in winter? Or just feeling a little unfinished. I don't think it's the worst story ever, (without spoilers I think there are some genuine stinkers we won't reach for a while) but is a bit beige compared to some really great episodes in S2.

[@HuntingViolets]

Yes, Billy Mumy, I think!

[@HuntingViolets]

​@@OldManFerdiad Nina Sosanya is wonderful and has worked with Tennant quite a bit.

[@mageeaaron2624]

5:42 "What do you mean by that? 👀

[@R.senals_Arsenal]

My man said sing Jodaci, 🤣 Funny thing is, me & my wife are watching JoJo's Bizarre Adventure for the 1st time and Season 4 has "Freakin You" as the ending theme for no apparent reason, has nothing to do with the story, and I'm like "kids watch this right?" 🤣 No real spoilers for anything you'll see in the show below: The Doctor has been a father a few times. In the Classic show he started his travels with his "granddaughter" Susan. Which implies he had kids. Whether bio or adopted is never said, but Susan was from his home planet. In the Classic series the Doctor has been a fatherly figure to certain companions, like Victoria, or Nyssa, but never more so than the relationship between 7th Doc & Ace (Dorothy). In expanded media the 8th Doctor while trapped on Earth and with a touch of amnesia he adopted a daughter named Miranda too. So he's been a dad, yeah. As for "the Doctor barely knows how to fly the TARDIS," there is an audio adventure with the 8th Doc where he's got a high level Time Lord on his ship with him as they're escaping some danger and she goes: "How you passed your flying exam, I'll never understand." And he replies: "Who says I passed? It's amazing what qualifications you can get with central computer access and a little imagination." 🤭

[@HuntingViolets]

Reminds me of Columbo and his required gun test.

[@MeatballCereal]

This episode and the last one, with the Absorbent Loaf thing, are like your favorite musician putting out another compilation instead of a new album. 🎵 contractual obligations...🎵

[@mageeaaron2624]

6:51 Yikes! 😂

[@IslesYankeeLady]

Humph. 😆 Fear Her is NOT that bad, at all. Adore Nina especially.

[@mageeaaron2624]

5:50 Exactly! 😂

[@HuntingViolets]

You seem to be going to the Doctor's having a son, but he says "I was a dad once." Eccleston mentioned having been a father and grandfather. I think Rose is getting more attached to the Doctor, but that is a function of having been with him longer now, not because he has a different face/body. Sometimes it does fell like they never have a real conversation that isn't in the middle of a dangerous adventure, though, and we don't see a lot there. The Sarah Jane episode was one where they talked a little, but that was followed by Mme. de Pompadour, which they don't seem to have discussed at all, and was a pretty significant thing. I was annoyed by her jealousy of the Doctor's talking with a server to get information in the Cyberman two-parter, but when you realize this is after the one-two punch of Sarah Jane/Reinette, you can see how raw she is at that point. I actually realized this watching your videos.

[@jennifermorris6848]

I didn’t hate this one. The little tag at the end about never ever - never say never - something is coming.

[@Which-Craft]

Finally! Someone else who realizes the Doctor doesn't have a license to drive!

[@JonCombo]

I wonder if these 2 episodes and the Sarah Jane one gave them the idea for a more kids based show.

[@nekobat1962]

Sorry for spoilers but in Classic Who The First Doctor has a granddaughter

[@alicequinn505]

This was just a children's episode. It's not the most _entertaining_ but some moments in it were the best.

[@chomskyismyhomeboi3509]

This was a busted one because they had to write a new script in a rush with a whole new plot.

[@TRANZEURO]

I think this episode may have been influenced by the 'Tales From The Hood' segment with the little kid and the abusive father.

[@grabtharshammer]

Nothing wrong with this episode, the problem is the "fans" 😜

[@mageeaaron2624]

2:10 👀

[@IsiahBradley]

"Circling the drain," indeed. The score 5.8 is too high for this. As an Africana Studies and Communication scholar, I think I've only watched this one once. I get what it's trying to do, but this goes next to the TNG episode "Code of Honor" for me 🤕🤕 Yes, Syntell and Rekkai, your rite of passage is over, and so up next......🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@technofilejr3401]

Code of Honor almost made me stop watching STNG

[@joshuajoshua2732]

When Dr. Who first started one of the Doctor's original companions was his granddaughter Susan with the First Doctor (William Hartnell) 60 years on we still know little of the Doctor's family background. This along with previous episodes is classed by fandom as one of the worst and most laziest writing episodes of this season even David Tennant later admitted the writing for this episode was poor.

[@technofilejr3401]

Yeah this episode was just to weird for me. Clicking like for the algorithm

[@IsiahBradley]

I do that, too!!! TY!!!

[@HuntingViolets]

And to tell in the future that it's a video I already watched. But also, I really enjoyed this reaction, and that's also a good reason to click.

[@punkrockpollyanna7829]

I'm not normally a negative person, but I can't watch this episode in its entirety, so I just watched your reaction instead. It's not a horrible episode, but Chloe's whisper talk the whole time just triggers me (like nails on a chalkboard.) It is anti- ASMR for me. ugh. *twitches uncontrollably Looking forward to being able to watch along with you guys on Patreon from here on out!

[@mageeaaron2624]

5:58 😭😂

[@space1999]

A bit of a filler episode but some goooood sh@t on its way....

[@Triskaan]

That's it, you've survived the worst back-to-back episodes of the show. Congrats! But gotta love Syntell's positivity through it all. :)

[@jaydenyugi9034]

This is better than Love and Monsters but it’s still a slightly average story, bordering on below average. I don’t think it’s as terrible as many claim it to be but it’s not great either. It’s probably the second or third weakest story in Series 2 but there are far worse episodes of Doctor Who than this one. The narrative with Chloe, her abusive dad and the Isolas turning people into paintings has good potential in creep factor but it feels noticeably underbaked and too rushed with its ideas and conclusion.

[@HuntingViolets]

People are rating it in comparison to other _Doctor Who_ episodes instead of in comparison to television in general, I sometimes think.

[@clueingforbeggs]

In the time since you reacted to this, given the cubject matter of this episode, the choice to have the BBC presenter voiced by actual BBC presenter Huw Edwards has aged kinda badly.

[@adrianahumada5930]

Season 2 was a big drop in quality from S1, some genuine stinkers Idiot's Lantern, Fear Her and the very boring Cyberman two parter. I can take or leave Love & Monsters but it's better than those 3 stories. Thankfully S3 is a huge jump in quality, especially the second half of the series.

[@jankyteeth6213]

Yeah agreed. Actually, The two parter Cybermen weren’t that bad in my opinion. But yeah, I feel glad that Syntell has gone past worst ones and can finally see what happens in S2 finale

[@fayesouthall6604]

@@jankyteeth6213it plays into the next two episodes

[@TRANZEURO]

I like "The Idiot's Lantern. I love the period setting,and the general quirkiness of it all.

[@boombam5214]

Agree, I much prefer season 1 and 3. I still love s2 though.

[@fayesouthall6604]

@@boombam5214 same ! Series 3 has some incredible episodes. One of which was actually filmed in the record store my husband owned at the time. Got to meet David and others. Got some fabulous pictures of the day

[@cassidyuk]

One of the worst episodes ever so well done for getting through it.

[@jennifermorris6848]

Sadly there are some worse episode in the 13th Doctors tour of duty. Chibnall is a bad writer.

[@joshuajoshua2732]

How about let them see and judge for themselves they said no spoilers.

[@leemitchell1717]

Congratulations for surviving the worst episode of the show.