Doctor Who 2x11 Reaction | Fear Her

[@Bardic_Knowledge]

The First Doctor's first companion was his granddaughter. So yeah, he was a dad once.

[@ConnorEllisMusic]

There was a massive petition trying to get Tennant to actually carry the torch when the time came but it didn't happen.

[@funnylilgalreacts]

It would have been EPIC!

[@stephen92]

I just wanted them to show an empty stadium over the TV just before the Torch arrived. Would've been cool

[@robotti84]

@@funnylilgalreacts Sir Patrick Stewart from Star Trek The Next Generation actually carried Olympic Torch in London Olympics 2012. "British actor Sir Patrick Stewart takes his turn on the Olympic torch relay, praising the celebratory crowds. Stewart, best known as Star Trek's Captain Jean-Luc Picard, said carrying the torch through well wishers in Croydon was an experience he will 'never forget', adding that it was better than any movie premiere." -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZWWYnt6rpeDirc

[@KthulhuXxx]

Matt Smith, however, did.

[@AlmightyCRJ]

​@@funnylilgalreactsThe actor next on your blanket DID carry the Torch.

[@Dobcool]

The cats in the nun's wimple is a reference to the cat people from the first episode of this season "New Earth"

[@The45thClown]

A wimple is the headdress warn by nuns, it goes around the face, head and under the chin.

[@JoeThornhill]

I thought they were called habits, Lol.

[@The45thClown]

@@JoeThornhill a habit is the whole outfit, more importantly it’s not as fun to say.

[@Doctor_Who_Rocks]

​@@The45thClown* worn by nuns. not "warn" by nuns. Autocorrect/predictive text, I guess?

[@The45thClown]

@@Doctor_Who_Rocks nope dyslexia.

[@HuntingViolets]

I like this bit where he has to re-park the TARDIS. That was clever and cute.

[@stile8686]

In our country they had that bit as a teaser to advertise the episode - just the TARDIS appearing, the Doctor saying ah, and the TARDIS disappearing - that was it. Without the actual reappearing it was hilarious.

[@valathor95]

A great little gag.

[@CarefulWithThatAx]

The episode was pretty explicit that heat wasn't enough; it was the love associated with the Olympic torch that did the trick. Also, they did say the Isolus chose Chloe because she was lonely, so she was already pretty isolated before it showed up. It was probably the situation with her dad that made her cut herself off.

[@afrancis1582]

Yep. Billions watching the torch and all that goodwill is what was needed.

[@chrisleneil]

My favourite thing about this episode is Nina Sosanya who plays the mum, Trish. Always love her work. She & David are close friends, and have been in this, ‘Casanova’, ‘Staged’, & ‘Good Omens’ together. Wonderful reaction, as always! 💜💜➕🌈🟦

[@Kranitoko]

"why couldnt she put it on the stove" Ah yes, first thing I think of when I turn on the stove is the love of millions of people 😅

[@ninjabluefyre3815]

Maybe if it was a Thanksgiving episode but I don't think England has those.

[@Kranitoko]

@@ninjabluefyre3815 uh... Christmas?

[@JoeThornhill]

Yeah. some might say they're beating you over the head with the whole "it needs more than heat" thing and then others say shit like "just put in on the stove".

[@KBTibbs]

If it's a gas stove, you'll get the love of dozens of petrochemical company CEOs...

[@c.alderman]

@@ninjabluefyre3815 why would England have Thanksgiving? Do you know what Thanksgiving is?😂

[@peterwolf4157]

It was not the heat of the fire, it was the feeling of community and love. The torch was the focus of all watching, even Rose said feel the love and tossed the ship up in the air not at the torch.

[@GreenBoxStudio1]

That council guy really loved filling in that pothole

[@David-cg1lh]

​@@GreenBoxStudio1he's a man dedicated to his job what can you say.

[@itsjuliescottyay]

I believe that Chloe was targeted by the lonely alien, because she was an abused child who was still trying to process what had happened to her and she needed love as much as the alien. Her mother was still trying to process what had happened to herself as well, so she wasn’t as available as she should have been for Chloe. Their ability to sing away the Spectre of her abusive father was a symbol of them beginning to move on together.

[@kingbeauregard]

At the end where the Doctor picks up the torch, they needed a quick montage of people smiling and cheering as they watch their TVs, and the very last person they show is Elton from last episode, spitting out his tea in surprise.

[@Russell_Crockett]

To answer your question about the vehicles stalling, the alien ship was siphoning the heat. No heat, no internal combustion.

[@OldManRiv3r]

At some point in the future, if your David Tennant crush doesn't go away (trust me it won't 😜) you should consider checking out Good Omens. Great, feel good show with a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy-style humor and it stars David and Michael Sheen who are 👌the dream team

[@HuntingViolets]

Would love to see her react to _Good Omens_ (crush or no crush) and _Staged._ A lot of other Tennant stuff to hit too. _Broadchurch,_ maybe.

[@biguy617]

I love that show

[@adp806]

Good omens in great (and relatively short). Based on the book by Neil Gaiman and Terry Practhett (an amazing collaboration). The TV series was also created by Neil Gaiman - the first season based on the book published in 1990. The second season by working off notes he and Pratchett made for a possible sequel/second season before Pratchett passed away. The Hitchhiker's guide feel is appropriate as both, but especially PTerry (Terry Pratchett - those who know know ;)) express similar humour. Pratchett and Douglas Adams have been compared favourably for their comedic fantasy and Sci-Fi respectively. I agree that Good Omens would be a great show to have on this channel.

[@HuntingViolets]

@@adp806 The second season is co-written by John Finnemore, who is a comedy writer (and may have been brought in because of the absence of Pratchett). POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR GOOD OMENS Other writers also contributed to the minisodes that are part of the episodes. The second season was done as a bridge to the planned third, which was supposed to be based on the planned book you refer to, _668: The Neighbour of the Beast._

[@michaelgonzalez6295]

16:48 IN CLASSIC WHO - The First Doctor's first Companion is his granddaughter who went by the name of Susan Foreman who was in Seasons 1 and 2. She calls him Grandfather all the time, not Doctor, one of the few people who do not call him Doctor. We know for sure she is at least Gallifreyan because the 20th Anniversary Special takes place on Gallifrey and she knows all the sights. Why her name was Susan, we do not know. Foreman comes from the name of the junkyard that TARDIS was in during the first episode. Two of her schoolteachers became Companions during the course of the first episode....

[@drunkslut2355]

Ooh have you watched classic doctor who? It’s hard to tell

[@HelluvaGuy1025]

I'm very suprised that she haven't appear in this show yet. She is from Gallifrey, so it wouldn't be a problem with just playing her diffrent looking actress. I think there is a potential.

[@kerouac.jackson]

@@HelluvaGuy1025 They've been hinting at Susan's return during this whole past season with Ncuti Gatwa so I suspect that she may actually return to make an appearance next season. Carole Ann Ford is the only actress from the main cast of the original series from 1963 still living today.

[@HelluvaGuy1025]

@@kerouac.jackson I haven't seen these new episodes with 14th Doctor. I need to watch them someday.

[@kerouac.jackson]

@@HelluvaGuy1025 The re-appearance of David Tennant was the 14th Doctor, and Ncuti Gatwa is the 15th. I've enjoyed the new series so far, but there were issues due to Ncuti's filming schedule for his first season, such that there were more than the usual number of Doctor-light episodes. Hopefully, that won't be the case next season.

[@TheRedwater357]

A wimple is the headpiece a nun wears. Like the cat nuns that threatened the Doctor at New Earth.

[@craigmarin2074]

Last season, empty child. Dr. Constantine said, "before this War I was A Father and A Grandfather. Now I'm neither but I'm still a Dr." Eccelson said, "I know the feeling." The Doctor was a grandfather before Time War

[@Ragnarok345]

Another one of those “Wow, I _really_ do like Angela if I’m watching this” episodes. 😆

[@funnylilgalreacts]

Thank you 😂😂

[@The-Cosmic-Hobo]

*sigh* Yeah.

[@Ragnarok345]

In the Empty Child two-parter: Doctor Constantine: "Before this war, I was both a father _and_ a grandfather; now I am neither." The Doctor: "Yep, know the feeling." 😏

[@TLC62]

The Doctor actually told Donna he was a father once, in The Doctor's Daughter. It was implied something tragic happened to his family.

[@cassianand0r]

@@TLC62 ok but FLG is not even close to watching that yet, so that isn’t really the reference to use for her

[@gospyro]

@@TLC62seriously people… NO SPOILERS!

[@h3llolime222]

@@TLC62bro… why are you spoiling in her comments

[@robertwong4060]

The Olympic torch was an emotional focal point and not simply a source of heat from the flame. The alien spaceship needed heat AND emotional energy.

[@mascan7905]

This was filmed in late 2005, so the London Olympics in 2012 had just been announced a couple of months earlier.

[@UncleMilo]

I'm sure a lot of people will post this as well, but the very first Doctor's companion was his granddaughter Susan.

[@beth3263]

I love that you're still making references to the clicky head thing 😂

[@Dobcool]

I love how the doctor didn't try and help thr guy, he just left him sprawled on the ground and on top of that, he stole all his glory!

[@emijomo89]

the doctor had a granddaughter called Susan in the original 60s show.

[@barriehull7076]

Easter egg, the Street was named after Dame Kelly Holmes who was the 800m and 1500m Olympic Champion. Holmes specialised in the 800 metres and 1,500 metres events and won gold medals for both distances at the 2004 Summer Olympics in Athens. She set British records in numerous events and still holds the records over the 600, and 1,000 metre distances. She held the British 800 metre record until 2021.

[@afrancis1582]

Kelly Holmes gold medals in 2024 are among my favourite sporting moments. Another is being in the Olympic stadium for 2012 to watch David Rudisha’s 800m record.

[@Raymail-tj4cf]

His very first companion going back to November 1963 was Susan Forman. The Doctors granddaughter.

[@andrewgrant6516]

"Winds in the East Clouds coming in Like something is starting About to begin Can't quite put my finger On what lies in store But it feels like what's to happen All happened before. " Couldn't get a better description of the next two episodes.

[@frnknstndrgqn]

My favorite part of this episode is when the doctor is talking about what you need to travel and what you need most of all you need a hand to hold. Then Rose is pointing but the doctor is just like oh Rose needs me to hold her hand. 😢😢😂 It's so cute and wholesome 😊 The other is the ball bearings you can eat. It looked like Rose wasn't paying attention but at the end has a cake with them in her hand. ❤

[@DrLipkin]

The First Doctor, way back when the show started in 1963, traveled with his granddaughter Susan. She was the first ever companion. Even in classic Who, the details of who his partner and other family might have been remained a mystery. The Time War happened off screen, in the time between Classic and NuWho. We don't know what happened to the Doctor's family, but since he calls himself the Last Time Lord, one way or another we can assume that they are dead.

[@alyssam4970]

Matt Smith carried the Olympic torch from Cardiff...in 2012....LOVED IT!

[@EvilOdysseus]

Crazy how this episode took place in the future when it aired and now it's in the past.

[@retro-robbo]

It wasn't just the heat, it was explained. The love and hope the torch represented was needed too.

[@michaelmaguire4147]

The fact that the actual real life 2012 Olympics were actually in london and they didn't have David Tennant run with the torch for just a little bit devastates me.

[@ryanconway9373]

"Kookaburra" is a classic in Australia (obviously, given the material), started with Girl Guides and made its way to Guides organisations all over. It's sung as a round, like "row row row your boat". Also the "oo" in kookaburra is said like the "oo" in book. Short sound

[@michaelpytel3280]

Yes the Doctor does have a child and a granddaughter . His granddaughter Susan Foreman is quite ... the Unearthly Child, 😉 and his first companion .

[@3IruAW]

When the 2012 Olympics finally came around I remember hoping until the last second to see David show up

[@Ilix42]

The Doctor was a grandfather once.

[@samfisher6606]

9:03 Reference to the first episode of the season. The cat nuns on New Earth

[@Metzwerg74]

or to the run-ins he had with them in classic who...

[@Precisa72]

Yes Mary poppins , no storm metioned, but similar vibe. "Winds in the east, mist coming in. Like somethin' is brewin' and 'bout to begin. Can't put me finger on what lies in store, But I feel what's to happen all happened before."

[@doktor_ghul]

You have to admit, FLG , that humans have an amazing ability to ignore what's right in front of their face.

[@gregweatherup9596]

Even without a perception filter…

[@Metzwerg74]

@@gregweatherup9596 we have that integrated...

[@alexsimpkin5620]

This episode only got made, as a script written by Stephen Fry fell through at the last minute due to budget issues. The original episode was going to be set in the 1920's and have the Doctor fight an Arthurian Knight.

[@AlmightyCRJ]

Reference to Lewis were from ITV detective drama Inspector Morse. Lewis was the Detective Constable assisting & eventually got the spinoff.

[@cassianand0r]

a show that also contains billie piper’s ex-husband! who’s unfortunately become a weird right-wing conspiracy theorist lol

[@timothyp8947]

Truth is stranger than fiction… for a certain value of truth… the 2012 Olympics may not have had the Doctor lighting the flame, but it did have the Late Queen and her 'minder' James Bond parachute in to the opening ceremony.

[@ronfehr7899]

Kookaburra Sits in the Ole Gum Tree is an old Australian nursery rhyme about the bird (kookaburra) and the sound it makes.

[@TenebrousFilms]

He was a dad, once. A grandad, also. But hey, this is one of the good days. *Everyody lived.* Always nice to have one of those, before...

[@drinkerofpaint]

I so wish they got David Tennant in for the 2012 Olympic ceremony

[@margaretpratt5963]

Kookaburra is an Australian nursery rhyme that in the USA was a popular song sung by kids in sing-a-longs. In the 1960’s I sang it in music class and Girl Scout Camp. I still have all those songs in my head.

[@Chronal-Rend]

I definitely learned it myself as a kid in the 90's from Barney which makes sense that they would use all kinds of nursery rhymes

[@RobertJW]

It was written by Marion Sinclair, a music teacher at Toorak College in Melbourne. The Girl Guides have adopted it as a traditional song, since Marion initially submitted it to a contest they held to raise money.

[@therealpbristow]

@@RobertJW ...And "Men at Work" got in trouble for using snippets of it in their hit song "Down Under", 'cos they assumed it was out of copyright and didn't check.

[@RobertJW]

@@therealpbristow Actually they assumed that the copyright belonged to the Girl Guides, but apparently the organisation sold off the rights to the song.

[@therealpbristow]

@@RobertJW I stand corrected. =:o}

[@c.alderman]

It's a very American trait to say that America is best at everything😂

[@baNdipaNda666]

they do have all the diabeatus

[@kingbeauregard]

We do excel at that, don't we?

[@A7bz3LOT4AL0B]

‘Murica

[@Richard_Ashton]

United States of America - 1 China - 2 Great Britain - 3

[@pabloc8808]

Well, to be fair, they do win a LOT of medals, every time. But yeah the way she said it was funny lol

[@dreameroutthere]

Yes, the Doctor has been a parent. The 1st Doctor's first companion when the show began in 1963 was Susan Foreman, the Doctor's Granddaughter, someone who we've been waiting to return for 60 years. She too is a Time Lord, or, in her case, a Time Lady.

[@wayneccj0710]

The Doctor has already told Rose that she can spend her whole life with him, but he can't spend his whole life with her. Due to the difference in lifespans, The Doctor expects to lose Rose eventually.

[@RegianOne]

It WAS Mary Poppins. Mary Poppins told her employers and or Bert ( Dick van Dyke) that she would only be there until the wind changes. Bert did remark about the wind changing before Mary came. And she left as soon as the wind changed.

[@stephenkay4008]

Fun fact: This episode loosely drew its inspiration from a late 80’s film called Paperhouse where a young bed-ridden girl draws things which apparently come to life - it’s quite terrifying! Paperhouse itself was inspired by a children’s fiction novel called ‘Marianne Dreams’ and was adapted for British television in the 1970’s as the children’s serial ‘Escape Into Night’.

[@NeuroticNomadic]

I used to own this on VHS! I am going to have to see if there is a BluRay is available.

[@stephenkay4008]

@@NeuroticNomadic Paperhouse? I’ve definitely seen it available on DVD, but not sure about Blu Ray.

[@carolineskipper6976]

The point about the Olympic Torch was it represented the love and hopes of all the nations coming together - it wasn't just heat, it was that feeling of family/ community. Fear Her is one of my least favourite episodes....not sure what was wrong, it just didn't quite gel somehow. Having sai that the quote 'A Council axe from a Council van' somehow entered our family vocabulary (you'd be amazed how often it fits right in - not frequently, but from time to time).

[@cathyvickers9063]

The first Doctor, in 1963, was traveling with his granddaughter. Obviously, he was married & had a son or daughter who got married to produce his granddaughter.

[@saraelizabethjoyce]

Every child in the 50's, 60's 70's 80's and 90's learned to sing the Kookaburra song in Australia.

[@lostmyshoe2294]

I learned it in Girl Scouts as a camp fire song in the 70s here in America.

[@wrdreacts4247]

1990, first grade summer camp in Northern California.

[@StarkRG]

I wasn't aware that they'd stopped. I figure that and Walzing Matilda are our two biggest folk song exports. (I would say biggest music exports except for Men At Work and Kylie Minogue)

[@74gould]

This series is able to pull off cheesy (most the time) 😆 hah! It helps, too, that BP & DT have insane chemistry… ❤

[@soulstealer29a]

I remember watching the 2012 Olympics opening ceremonies and at one part you can hear the TARDIS.

[@Trifler500]

It wasn't the heat of the fire, it was the symbol of love. A stove or bonfire don't have that.

[@GeoffTrowbridge]

And the torchbearer who was supposed to light the cauldron? The guy who likely dreamed of this and trained for it? Yeah, he just collapsed and might be dead so... Screw that guy. Go Doctor!

[@jptarus2]

I love the look on your face when Rose starts asserting that she and the Doctor are forever. That look shows you understand that this show WILL mess with your feelings.

[@IanM-id8or]

Not all Doctor light episodes are bad. One of them just might be my absolute favourite. That, of course, is Season 3, Episode 10 - "Blink"

[@unclekarl5219]

Funny how the two most well regarded 10th doctor stories is a one that barely has the doctor and another that is only the doctor

[@fayesouthall6604]

That was partly filmed in my husband’s shop. They turned it into a dvd store but it’s really a vinyl record store in Newport South Wales. Lucky to meet David, Freema and Carey Mulligan. Got some lovely pictures from the set and them in the shop during breaks.

[@LordLOC]

@@unclekarl5219 Turn Left and Midnight. Word.

[@flaggerify]

@@unclekarl5219 I think there are better stories than Blink. The stories introducing Jack and River for example.

[@Wannabe_Baby]

Why would you tell her this before she's seen it? Let her go in blind and discover it for herself.

[@davidkeye9334]

The Tardis was at the 2012 Olympics.

[@Jeflar70]

While the Doctor’s comment about having been a father was a surprise to new viewers of the revival, this was common knowledge to fans of Classic Who since the original Doctor’s companion when the show began in 1963 was his own granddaughter Susan.

[@isaintrovert]

The First Doctor’s first companion is his granddaughter, Susan Foreman 🫶 I believe they went to Aztec times during the first few episodes lol

[@gwinnellheald8592]

"I was a dad once" Im surprised this is the first reference to this youve caught. Theres another one i love in the 9th doctor episode "the empty child": "before the war i was a father and a grandfather, now i am neither, but i am stil a doctor." "Yeah, i know the feeling."

[@robadams5799]

9:03 - A cat in a nun's wimple. See "New Earth," the first episode of the second series. He said he's not really a cat person, but the Sixth Doctor wore a cat pin on his ugly jacket.

[@BassaSelim]

"I know their shtick by now." Matthew Graham: "Gotcha!"

[@Trinidad413]

"They feed on each other's love. Without it, they're lost." That line made me sad knowing that Doomsday is coming...

[@MeganSt90]

5:00 Matthew Graham is also the creator of Life on Mars, which is another show I'd highly recommend, though this episode is probably not the best introduction to his work. 😅There's a lot of overlap with Doctor Who in terms of writers and producers.

[@StarkRG]

Oh, look, it's Nina! She may not be the biggest name in British acting but she is (to me, at least) extremely recognisable. I probably saw her in Love Actually first, but her role in BBC's Casanova is the one that stuck in my head first. By the time she was in Good Omens she was an "oh, hey, it's her" actor.

[@DrakeAurum]

Terminator and Mary Poppins - who hasn't got those mixed up?

[@HuntingViolets]

Mary Poppins has a bag that's bigger on the inside. Time Lady?

[@hammerman199374]

We don't know much about The Doctor before he left Gallifrey, but we do know he must have had a family at some point, because when he left he took his granddaughter, Susan, with him. They are together for much of the First Doctor's adventures in classic Who.

[@KingApeiron]

Chloe's dad died and then she wasn't seen around as much. You'd think people would ask about her... because you're American. British people worry about their neighbors but would NEVER ring them up to check lol

[@UncleMilo]

The reason it had to be the Olympic Torch was because it wasn't just the fire, but the global emotional connection to it.

[@sadfaery]

Speaking of nuns, the actress who plays the girl's mum was a nun (of sorts) in Good Omens.

[@judiharris8796]

The older lady is in one of the best episodes of Torchwood!

[@wrdreacts4247]

"Olympic Sport" 😂😂 Very slight spoiler for the distant future: there's a line in Capaldi's first episode that will break you. 😂

[@SciPunk215]

The first season of Doctor Who might as well be called "The Adventures of Susan Foreman and her Grandfather the Time Lord".

[@ronfehr7899]

The isolus may have need more than just the heat to aid in it's release. It needed love, or in this case, the representation of love, hence the Olympic torch.

[@itsjuliescottyay]

There were petitions going around England to have David Tennant carry the torch in the 2012 Olympics lol. It didn’t work, but it was funny.

[@michaelmaguire4147]

9:16 IIRC it's their hat. He's referencing s2e1. There's also a fun bit of back-trivia: the last serial of classic who before it was taken off air has to do with cat-people; so there is a chance that line is also referencing cats "being responsible for the cancellation"

[@therealpbristow]

Not so much a "hat" as a "head and sides-of-face covering", but yeah. =:o}

[@HuntingViolets]

I think I lost this comment when I had to reload the page, so I'll try again. Abisola Agbaje, the actress who played Chloe, received a lot of harsh criticism for her performance here, but I think she does pretty well. I said some other stuff, but some of it was said in other comments and some I don't remember right now. :)

[@funnylilgalreacts]

I always try to grant as much grace to child actors as possible. They’re doing what they think is amazing work and sometimes it’s pretty awful stuff. I think she did fine personally

[@HuntingViolets]

@@funnylilgalreacts Yes, and I appreciate the nuance you bring to all of the episodes.

[@solitarymaninblack]

Team GB were training and staying in my home town of Loughborough. I did have an opportunity to work at the Olympics in one of the restaurants.

[@ChrisCebelenski]

Most likely outcome of an encounter with the Doctor (non-companion) - Death, Maiming, mental scars for life, etc. Pretty much if you see The Doctor it's time to go some other direction. Quickly.

[@NeuroticNomadic]

Well... there was that one time.... "JUST THIS ONCE, everybody lives!!"

[@greencello599]

I was actually working when they aired the opening ceremonies for London 2012. Pre-recorded due to the time difference between London and the US. Yep. Keeping the Pediatric Wing of a hospital clean in the middle of the night. I was bored out of my skull.

[@gork8468]

Companions are like babies/toddlers in a way. One day their parent puts them down and never picks them up again. Love has nothing to do with it - it just... happens. It's weird and oddly heartbreaking to think about, but doesn't feel like it in the moment because it's not intentional (most people probably aren't thinking 'ok, this is your last uppies') and you'd be hard pressed to pin point the exact time it happened.

[@misterno-ice-guy8082]

"Squiggles"?! That is a GREAT name for a cat

[@NeuroticNomadic]

"Squiggles"always reminds me of the Scrabble episode of The Show With Ze Frank (11-27-2006).

[@misterno-ice-guy8082]

@@NeuroticNomadic Ze Frank? I gotta see that one yet (I like how he refers to birds as: "beards")

[@roguetrickster6029]

16:37 if you go back to the gas mask zombie episodes the old man who was taking care of them talked about how he was a father and grandfather before the war and how he lost all of it. The doctor said he knows the feeling. Just small little hints to the doctor’s family.

[@nicholasbyrne6485]

The song is an old Australian kids song.

[@Richard_Ashton]

Everyone is fond of old Australian kids, no wonder there’s a song for them.

[@therealpbristow]

@@Richard_Ashton =:oD

[@DiamondzFinder_]

This episode is so underrated, it actually lists as one of the least liked new who episodes, and I never understood why. I've heard a lot of people say that Chloe's performance was a reason, but honestly I think she did a very good job of showing the loneliness of chloe during the short time we saw her without the isolus, and as for when the isolus was controlling her, it definitely gave obsessing and scared to me. As for the rest of the episode, I love this one. So many good details: the bit about the tardis needing to be re-parked, the moment(s) with the doctor sensing something is wrong or different (as in feeling where the ionic energy was, and then later when he said a storm was coming, it almost felt instinctual. And yeah, it definitely reminded me of Mary Poppins (Many fans love the idea that Mary Poppins is a Timelord, including me :3 )), the connection of the mother and chloe in the end. Also, when it comes to the isolus pod, it didn't just need heat, it needed love, and the olympic torch represented the love of all the fans.

[@eastcoastaj5048]

By the time you get to Capaldi you'll be able to publish a nice fat book "Questions for the Doctor and Whovian Famdom"

[@celeste9958]

I'm glad they didn't have iPads back then, Chloe and the Isolus would've been speed drawing like crazy.

[@joshuajoshua2732]

The scene where the Doctor tells Rose he was a dad once in Classic Who one of the Doctor's original companions was his granddaughter Susan companion to the First Doctor (William Hartnell) for the last 61 years the shows been on the air we never deep dived into the Doctor's family background or his entire background in general other than hints here and there that's why the shows called "Doctor Who?" as in mystery or who is he? The Doctor never opens up to his companions that's just the way he is your forgetting he's lived for over 900 years.

[@PreceptorGrant]

The Kookaburra song is an australian folk song or nursery rhyme from the late 1800s. Not sure why (maybe because of the strong links between Australia and the UK), but it's fairly well-known in britain too.

[@JHNoble]

definitely the cultural links, but also maybe b/c it is a good song for young piano students. I remember it from the mid-1970s, taking lessons in the US.

[@robadams5799]

0:30 - "I'm going to savor, a-the flavor."

[@qqqqqqqqqqqq121212]

I’m not trying to hate, but I’ve watched a lot of Americans react to this episode and they all seem to think it’s weird The Olympic torch is going down the street. Is the Olympic Relay not that big a deal in America? I suppose you haven’t had the Olympics recently, and your country is so huge compared to ours, but the Torch went everywhere up and down the country - down plenty of residential streets (though of course this episode released years before the actual London Olympics)

[@HuntingViolets]

I never thought to question why it was going down that particular street. (American.) When she mentioned it, I just thought, well, it's probably somewhat random. They're going to want to go down a variety or whatever. I mean, the torch relay has been on television.

[@wrdreacts4247]

🖖 love that Star Trek exists within the Whoniverse. Several times referenced on screen, as if The Doctor could actually visit the Enterprise, and any of the planets mentioned in Trek, not just referenced in the comic books.

[@HuntingViolets]

But Rose knows it as fictional.

[@wrdreacts4247]

@@HuntingViolets so maybe it's not? The episodes are historical records from our future... 😆

[@HuntingViolets]

@@wrdreacts4247 Possibly. The "But" is a statement of how she knows it more than a definitive opinion. :)

[@joshuajoshua2732]

I hate it personally they should both be seperate univereses and fanwank nonsense.

[@wrdreacts4247]

@@joshuajoshua2732 Generally, I would agree about keeping things seperate, but if anything were to have a crossover, DW and ST are the best crossovers to have. For sci-fi.

[@Pandaemoni]

It's not really a reveal that the Doctor was a father. The first Doctor's first companion was his granddaughter, Susan.

[@wyren925]

I love that the brain hatch joke is still going.

[@tenmark7055]

This episode has been removed from BBC iPlayer - one of the cast Huw Edwards was later accused of child p*rn and rather than try to remove his scene, they chucked the entire episode.

[@andrewbowman4611]

They're in the process of re-recording Edwards's lines with another actor or newsreader - possibly Jason Mohammed, seeing as he has Who experience. It's surprising how much Edwards can be heard throughout. The redubbed version will available before too long, I'm sure.

[@YourBeingParanoid]

cloud, silver, lining

[@Marwolaeth01]

Thing to remember about the Doctor is that at this point he is over 900 years old. Just going by companions we know of (on screen ones) there is between 25 regular companions, and about 40 depending upon your definition of a companion at this (2x11) point in the show. At the time of his first regeneration (into the second Doctor) he is meant to have been about 450 years old. The show has been going for a long time, but it still hasn't shown us 450 years of footage of his travels, so who knows how many companions have tagged along that we know nothing about? What I'm trying to say is, don't be too hard on him for not telling Rose everything that has ever happened to him, or about every companion. They'd never have time for their own adventures ;o)