Doctor Who: Classic 19x1: "Castrovalva" Parts 1-4 | PREMIERE REACTION!!

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@7thHourFilms
@7thHourFilms Жыл бұрын
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@JakobLumley1978
@JakobLumley1978 Жыл бұрын
Neil Toynay, who is credited as playing the Portreeve, is an anagram of Tony Ainley (Anthony Ainley) who plays the Master. Also, this story was the 4th story that Davison filmed. Next weeks story was the first filmed for this season
@kemmdog4444
@kemmdog4444 Жыл бұрын
If you notice,Adric doesn’t look too well at the end of the last episode. That’s because Matthew Waterhouse had a bit too much too drink and was very sick. There’s a part where you see Adric leaning against a tree. He vomited behind it.
@majkus
@majkus Жыл бұрын
"Castrovalva" is the name of a picture by M. C. Escher, whose portrayals of twisted geometry inspired the twisted geometry in this story. 'Castrovalva' is a fairly ordinary landscape though.
@jonathanmurphy3141
@jonathanmurphy3141 Жыл бұрын
The Blu-ray on Season 19, has "alternative effects" -with improved city recursive geometry, improved "big bang" peril,...the celery is there.
@DeanStrickson
@DeanStrickson Жыл бұрын
If I remember right, Castrovalva is a village in Italy on a hilltop that Escher visited.
@jcortese3300
@jcortese3300 Жыл бұрын
One of my faves -- very atmospheric, and I love the set design and costumes for Castrovalva as well as the wonderful 80s synth score. Davison's tenure to me is the high point of scoring for the show. And there are a few lovely moments in this episode with dialogue and acting choices. I adore the semi-Shakespearean dialogue like, "longer in the body than the available habiliments could match" and "the meat served cold will taste the better for it." And for some reason, I absolutely love the eagerness with which Mergrave hands the chalk to Ruther; he's just on the cusp of understanding his world, and he's eager to see if Ruther gets it as well. It's getting the little things right, the crisp pleats and razor folds, that really pushes this into the top tier for me.
@NaanProphet
@NaanProphet Жыл бұрын
I’m sure someone on your Patreon already pointed it out, but it was actually at Peter Davison’s insistence that they change the credit to The Doctor. Davison was the first actor to play the titular character who grew up as a fan. And it was important to him that they get it right. When David Tennant took over in the relaunch, he did the same, as Eccelston was credited as Doctor Who as well.
@kierenevans2521
@kierenevans2521 Жыл бұрын
12:35 Yes, Bidmead wrote Logopolis and was script editor on season 18. When it came to contract renewal, he asked for pay rise as he'd found the job on Doctor Who required a lot more work than other shows at the time. The reply was a no, and he moved on. He will write one more televised story. 15:15 Older bats are narrower than modern ones. Some in the professional game, particularly the short formats like T20s are very wide in comparison to older ones. The bat in-question looks quite vintage which considering the Fifth Doctor is often referred to as Edwardian makes sense. 16:50 On Davison's request I believe. 26:00 The makeup is rather good actually. 45:35 I know it's in the future, but as you guys have already watched it I'll correct this. It's not the bullets that cause the seventh doctor to regenerate. The doctors at the hospital even say that he's fine from them. It's surgeons trying to 'correct' his unusual heartbeat...
@RoundTheArchives
@RoundTheArchives Жыл бұрын
'Castrovalva' notes : Part One: Viewing figures = 9.1 million. Chart position = 54. Part Two: Viewing figures = 8.6 million. Chart position = 84. Part Three: Viewing figures = 10.2 million. Chart position = 47. Part Four: Viewing figures = 10.4 million. Chart position = 46. Transmission dates : 4, 5, 11, 12 January 1982. Studio sessions : September / October 1981. Studios : TC3 & TC6. Working title : 'The Visitor'. The initial plan to open Season 19 was a story by John Flanagan & Andrew McCulloch (of 'Meglos' fame) called 'Project Zeta-Sigma'. However, the scripts were pulled from production when new Script Editor Anthony Root consulted with Barry Letts after becoming concerned about them. As such, 'Four To Doomsday' was pulled forward in the production schedule, allowing time for Chris Bidmead to come up with a replacement, eventually becoming the fourth story Peter Davison recorded. The Escher-inspired material derived from the two prints in Graeme MacDonald's office and Castrovalava is the name of a Escher work depicting a village on a cliff. Locations for filming included Duddleswell, Buckhurst Park and Harrison's Rocks (also seen in 'The Mind Robber'). Matthew Waterhouse was feeling rather unwell for the final scenes after drinking too much the night before... In studio, Patrick Troughton stood in for Peter Davison for some camera rehearsals and the young girl was played by the niece of Caroline John (Liz Shaw). The new twice-weekly slot proved to be a wise move, with viewing figures for Season 19 being generally much better than for the previous season. Oh, and 'Neil Toynay' is an anagram of Tony Ainley...
@alexthehunted
@alexthehunted Жыл бұрын
The scene were 5th doctor eats the celery. Peter davidson hates celery so spat it out the moment the scene cut and now he wears the thing he hates
@Lynxdoc
@Lynxdoc Жыл бұрын
It’s like Uncle Rico eating steak in Napoleon Dynamite and I do consider ND a time travel movie or at least parallel world as things change after Napoleon uses the Time Machine. The dance, class president and Lafawnda
@TheZodiacz
@TheZodiacz Жыл бұрын
It's an older style cricket bat, they do as Richard pointed out, look somewhat different now.
@bananasaregood8655
@bananasaregood8655 Жыл бұрын
This was actually the fourth story filmed in the season, to give davison a good feel of his doctor before his debut story. Four to doomsday was first. You can tell with nyssa and tegan’s hair, its lengths are totally different in the next story. Mathew waterhouse was VERY hungover in the final scene, and actually puked behind a tree 😂
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood Жыл бұрын
I really like this story. The plot is well written and I like how the Master's plans throughout this entire thing are just vindictive and petty ways to destroy the Doctor, which makes sense considering all the times the Doctor has foiled his plans, but especially since he's done it two stories in a row now. I enjoy the way the mystery of Castrovalva enfolds and how the concept of block transfer computation carries over from the previous story and how Adric's mathematical skills are being exploited to hold the entire illusion together. The idea of an entire city being forged and space being folded in on itself are really interesting concepts and I love how the Doctor works out the history of Castrovavla has been forged by reading the books. And that brings to Davison because while everything I've mentioned is good, the real reason why this story is really good and works so well is due his performance and the way the fifth Doctor is written. It helps that this was actually the fourth story in the production schedule for this season, which was a clever way for JNT to have Davison settle into the part before filming what would be his first televised story, so he could make the best possible first impression. I think it paid off. I think the idea that a regeneration is failing is really interesting and plays really well into the fifth Doctor's characterisation. Davison is immediately able to establish this Doctor's self-doubt and vulnerability and the way the Doctor grows into himself and gets more confident as the story goes on is a nice little character arc to take the new Doctor in his first story. Davison imbues the character with all sorts of little nuances and his performance is already so pleasingly multi layered, he really is brilliant. This Doctor is full of uncertainty but that makes the times he pushes through and is able to overcome his fears and shortcomings to win the day mean so much more and make him look that much braver. The fifth Doctor is an incarnation full of contradictions and he struggles with himself quite a lot, which is a huge and I'm sure deliberate contrast to the uber confident, self-assured fourth Doctor and this story does a great job of broadly setting the main elements of the fifth Doctor's characterisation in place. It's an interesting idea to have a more fallible and less sure of himself Doctor and I think it was good to take the Doctor's character to a new place after 18 seasons. It was largely unexplored territory and I think it's a perfectly valid and fascinating direction to take the character in. The fact that the Doctor needs to finds a peaceful place to clear his mind and find his new self is interesting and I love how the Doctor in his jumbled state of mind says the reason he came to Castrovalva is to find the Doctor. It's a beautifully poetic way to get across the journey the Doctor goes on in this story. I like how the Master had two different plans as a failsafe because it shows his desperation and determination to truly get rid of the Doctor at this point and once his first plan fails, he switches over to a much more devious one because knows and exploits the Doctor's situation and creates Castrovalva to be the kind of place to be the perfect trap. It's a society built on rest and relaxation and that's exactly what the Doctor needs, but the fact that the truth behind it all is just to destroy the Doctor is really sinister and it's almost as if the story is saying a place like this is too good to be true. The Master shoots himself in the foot though and some of the people he created and populated Castrovalva with gain free will and realise what's happening and help the Doctor to escape. It's a satisfying way to resolve the plot. Overall this story is really good and fine way to end this "Master trilogy" of sorts. I love the optimistic note it ends on with the brand-new Doctor starting to find himself. Castrovalva is just a nice story to watch and relax to.
@stickytapenrust6869
@stickytapenrust6869 Жыл бұрын
15:00 - at least with a box of chocolates, you get a sheet telling you what each one is!
@josefschiltz2192
@josefschiltz2192 Жыл бұрын
I seem to recall it said that, at this time, none of the crew had their own hair colour. 'Please stand by'. I half expected 'Puffing Billy' to be played with that.
@tokublwhovian
@tokublwhovian Жыл бұрын
Now we’re on to one of my favourite (and underrated) eras! 😁
@mikeyp5536
@mikeyp5536 Жыл бұрын
Peter Davison is my doctor. A really underrated actor, with some great skill, some would say he had the same job as Troughton in making us move on from tom baker and his massive shadow over the part. I think without Troughton and Davison, this series would have ended very much sooner.
@bjgandalf69
@bjgandalf69 Жыл бұрын
I like Peter in the role just not so much a big fan of a lot of the stories they gave him.
@stevem.1853
@stevem.1853 Жыл бұрын
The set design of Castrovalva was inspired by M.C. Escher's "Ascending and Decending". Escher also did a landscape of the Italian village Castrovalva, located at the edge of a cliff.
@MrEvers
@MrEvers Жыл бұрын
'Neil Toynay' is an anagram of 'Tony Ainley'.
@mikeyp5536
@mikeyp5536 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the 4th doc wore the scarf from the start knowing his next regeneration would be difficult and the 5th doctor would need something to find his way around the TARDIS.
@johannahyde-parker8422
@johannahyde-parker8422 Жыл бұрын
the main four cast were actually hungover during filming I've heard different conflicting stories
@me1735
@me1735 Жыл бұрын
This is indeed the first story that aired on a Monday and Tuesday nights as appose to airing on Saturday. I'm not sure if they kept this up for the rest of the show or went back to Saturdays
@stickytapenrust6869
@stickytapenrust6869 Жыл бұрын
They went back to Saturdays for S22 and 23.
@D-Cameron
@D-Cameron Жыл бұрын
The next story, Four to Doomsday, was the first story that Davison filmed, and he wasn't confident that he had a handle on the part at that point, so was trying things out to see what might work.
@phantomsidious2934
@phantomsidious2934 Жыл бұрын
The Watcher put the new doctors clothes on the rack for him. The seventh doctor didn't regenerate because of the gun shots it was complications during the surgery that did it. The doctor can die, he only starts regenerating if his body is severely injured, he can still die before his regeneration
@woodhouse122
@woodhouse122 Жыл бұрын
First Davison episode shown ,but the 3rd story he recorded (four to Doomsday and Kinda were filmed before this) that's why his hair is longer in this story than in the next 2 😁
@robalexander8065
@robalexander8065 Жыл бұрын
Actually this is the 4th story he recorded. Four to Doomsday, The Visitation and Kinda were all recorded before this. In the case of The Visitation they talk at the start about the events of KInda, which they had yet to record.
@Darren79
@Darren79 Жыл бұрын
Peter Davison's first story was due to be a script called Project Zeta Sigma written by the writers of Meglos. But quite late in the day it was due realised it was unworkable so they recorded the first available script (the next story - Four to Doomsday), then they made two more stories that had a big filming gap between them as Peter Davison was starring in another TV show at the time so his schedule was complicated. The three productions and filming gap allowed a replacement script to be ordered from departed script editor Christopher H. Bidmead. In a good bit of deflection producer John Nathan Turner repeatedly said that they made Castrovalva fourth to allow Davison to find his Doctor before shooting his first story - all total nonsense.
@phantomsidious2934
@phantomsidious2934 Жыл бұрын
Davison's doctor was easy to except for people at the time because he was a very popular actor at the time appearing in many popular shows like 'all creatures great and small'.
@kyletaylor3255
@kyletaylor3255 Жыл бұрын
These were the first Doctor Who episodes I watched, although didn't understand much of what was going on. I would have been six. You're right about Peter Davison's hair being lighter. They were aiming for a particular consistent look for each member of the 'Tardis team' and decided that the Doctor would appear better with blond hair. Unfortunately, they had already filmed Logopolis with Davison in his natural brown hair.
@jacobhogan3208
@jacobhogan3208 Жыл бұрын
I've heard so many stories of people who watched this episode back in the day as kids and expected Tom Baker to just pop out by the end of the story because for many of them they just didn't know what regeneration was because it had been so long since the last.
@phantomsidious2934
@phantomsidious2934 Жыл бұрын
Decent start for the fifth doctor, (my favorite doctor) I like most of it, hard to top spearhead from space, but I like this more than robot and other beginning stories. This wasn't the first story filmed, that would be four to doomsday (Davison's hair length is a big clue) the celery will be explained at some point, it has a point.
@Tyrconnell
@Tyrconnell Жыл бұрын
And so we get the second time clothes regenerate with the Doctor. Tom's Boots of Rassilon become Peter's Shoes of Omega. There must be an entire Big Finish series explaining that.
@joshuajoshua2732
@joshuajoshua2732 Жыл бұрын
As i explained some comments back Richard for "The Power of the Daleks" that had to be Troughton's first one because regeneration was a new concept the production crew and Troughton weren't sure this was going to work because the audience only had Hartnell at the time and was all they knew this was a big change for its leading character they had to have familiarity so the audience could get use to the new Doctor and say yes this is still "Doctor Who" having "The Highlanders" first would had felt too inconsistent and because historicals weren't as popular as Dalek stories it made sense not to do that one first "The Power of the Daleks" is a classic and the most wanted of the missing episodes, Troughton knew exactly how he wanted to play The Doctor but because he was the first "new" Doctor he was playing it whether he was really the Doctor or an imposter.
@joshuajoshua2732
@joshuajoshua2732 Жыл бұрын
The scene where The Fifth Doctor ravishes the scarf received alot of angry complaints to the BBC at the time apparently even Tom Baker was not happy about it.
@kierenevans2521
@kierenevans2521 Жыл бұрын
I find this one an odd one. 3 sections: first ep and half of the next in the Tardis, the rest of part 2 walking to Castrovalva, and then 2 parts in Castrovalva. It's a bit messy but it has some nice moments.
@joshuaverran9443
@joshuaverran9443 Жыл бұрын
The reason they didn't show Troughton regenerating into Pertwee was because Pertwee wasn't yet cast when they were filming Troughton's regeneration.
@MuchWhittering
@MuchWhittering Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, the airdates. So yeah, they changed the broadcast schedule for Seasons 19-21. Instead of Saturdays, it now aired twice a week on Mondays and Tuesdays. I guess it made it more exciting and easy to follow the stories, but it also meant they only were on the air for a quarter of the year, instead of half. I wonder if it helped playground discussions too. You could watch an episode, and then chat with your friends about it at school the next day. I get what you mean with "modern classic Who". I mean, by this point the junkings had stopped and they were actively looking for missing episodes. Doctor Who Magazine had started, as had the Doctor Who Appreciation Society I think. In 1983 the VHS line began, and I know during the 5th Doctor's era, conventions really started to take off. Hell, when Patrick Troughton died in 1987 he was AT a convention, we have footage of him there the previous day. Plus we finally have "The Doctor" credited correctly. This is also the first time they didn't shoot the first story first. They actually shot Four to Doomsday first, to give Davison a chance to get used to the role before they shot his debut. So yeah, The Power of the Daleks was shot in order. In the 60s they were only about a month ahead of broadcast, shooting out of order wasn't really an option. EDIT: Okay, apparently this isn't true. Apparently it was because the intended first story fell through. 10:45 Haha yeah, Dailymotion... *Stares at shelves full of Doctor Who DVDs* Peter Davison at this point was fairly well-known. He'd been in a show called All Creatures Great and Small, so people knew who he was. Certainly a lot more than they'd known Tom Baker. I wonder if that was intentional, to try and cast a familiar face to follow on from Tom Baker. I'm impressed you noticed the Portreeve was The Master, because I didn't when I saw this the first time. Though this box set (Keeper of Traken, Logopolis and Castrovalva were sold on DVD together) was my first encounter with the Ainley Master. Though I suppose it was everyone's at the time too... 31:35 At the end here, supposedly between shots, Matthew Waterhouse was throwing up behind that tree, due to some heavy drinking the night before.
@7thHourFilms
@7thHourFilms Жыл бұрын
Funny enough, I just went to Google to find this episode and it actually came up on Internet Archive by the BBC before the Dailymotion version. And it looks like the former is way better quality too! Don't ever be ashamed of your DVDs! Physical media must remain in this chaos of streaming services!
@MuchWhittering
@MuchWhittering Жыл бұрын
@@7thHourFilms Indeed, physical is great. I've so far been resisting buying the Blu-Rays they've been putting out, since I bought all the DVDs. But the DVDs take up way more space (it's one standard DVD case per story). I'm moving house soon, and as I've been boxing stuff up, I do get the feeling it'd be better with the Blu-Rays. Plus those extras...
@7thHourFilms
@7thHourFilms Жыл бұрын
The other side of that would be recording things as MP4 files. Obviously that would take some time but it's another option. Probably not now though since you already have the DVDs.
@MuchWhittering
@MuchWhittering Жыл бұрын
@@7thHourFilms I could rip disk ISOs fairly easily, but it's effort I CBA to put in. I actually just bought the Season 19 Blu-Ray set today, so I might start selling off my DVDs.
@stickytapenrust6869
@stickytapenrust6869 Жыл бұрын
The move was so the BBC could use it (and a few other half hour dramas like Angels and Triangle) to experiment with measuring ratings as they were mooting doing a twice-weekly soap - EastEnders. Which was a bit of a waste as EastEnders has always been fucking shite…
@MuchWhittering
@MuchWhittering Жыл бұрын
47:54 So not quite. Junkings ended in 1978, so by 1981 stuff that was gone was already gone. They showed An Unearthly Child, The Krotons (the only surviving Troughton 4 parter), The Three Doctors, Carnival of Monsters, and Logopolis. The War Games we have because it (along with I believe The Dominators and The Mind Robber) had been given to the British Film Institute as examples of genre. But yeah, by 1981 junkings had stopped. And in fact after Season 9, I believe only 3 episodes were ever junked at all. Those being Planet of the Daleks 3, Invasion of the Dinosaurs 1 and Death to the Daleks 1. Everything else never got as far as being wiped since they were too new to have been wiped yet.
@johntomlinson6849
@johntomlinson6849 Жыл бұрын
Death to the Daleks 1, not 3.
@MuchWhittering
@MuchWhittering Жыл бұрын
@@johntomlinson6849 Yes, I wasn't sure on that, but was too lazy to look it up.
@johntomlinson6849
@johntomlinson6849 Жыл бұрын
@@MuchWhittering Also, thinking about it, when the first listing of what survived was published in 1981/2, Frontier in Space 1, 4,5, 6 were also missing. They were recovered from Australia.
@robalexander8065
@robalexander8065 Жыл бұрын
There were plans to show The Masque of Mandragora to represent Tom Baker in The Five Faces season - the billing for episode one of Logopolis in Radio Times is accompanied by a picture from Masque. JN-T decided quite late in the day Logopolis would be a better choice not least because it featured a few seconds of Davison (hence the fifth "face".)
@davidbull7210
@davidbull7210 Жыл бұрын
The deliberate UK junkings ended in late 74 but there were still some junkings overseas up until (as far as we know) about 1981, some done despite instructions not to. We would have lost almost everything in 1977/78 through sheer apathy and ignorance were it not for Ian Levine and the woman at Villiers House London. Real Who heroes.
@billthewhovian
@billthewhovian Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the 5th Doctor! I think you two will enjoy his era.
@glenmcculla6843
@glenmcculla6843 Жыл бұрын
Can anybody help me out with something that's been bugging me for years? That final shot we have of the Master, being pulled apart by the Castrovalvans in the darkness - it's always reminded me of a painting. Bruegel, maybe? It's bugged me for a long time. If anyone can name that painting, answers on a postcard. I've always loved the synth flute motif for Castrovalva. It takes me to my happy place. Which is apparently a bucolic woodland somewhere.
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood Жыл бұрын
Not only is The Power of the Daleks THE best post regeneration story, it's one of the best Doctor Who stories ever, period. Thank you so much for your time.😊
@7thHourFilms
@7thHourFilms Жыл бұрын
All of the YT auto replies agreed with you. So, now I know YT is a terrible, anti-creator company! The absolute state!
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood Жыл бұрын
@@7thHourFilms Auto replies?
@7thHourFilms
@7thHourFilms Жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah. They're on the Creator Studio comments section.
@MuchWhittering
@MuchWhittering Жыл бұрын
Don't worry Azmat, everyone is wrong sometimes. Today's your turn.
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood Жыл бұрын
@@7thHourFilms Lol yeah, I just looked what they are and all I can say is, of course they agreed with me! Saying The Power of the Daleks is one of the best stories is the only thing that makes sense. Even YT knows that!😅
@johnjeczalik8960
@johnjeczalik8960 Жыл бұрын
To me this story doesn’t really get going until the third part. Thankfully the Davison era has a few two-part stories so those will be pretty easy for you guys. Also, the 20th anniversary special The Five Doctors.
@JAYWALKER1000
@JAYWALKER1000 Жыл бұрын
No straight up regeneration from the 6th to the 7th either (not that you could stick a secret Doctor in there. Colin Baker was not on the set but McCoy show up in hos costume.
@whobp8
@whobp8 Жыл бұрын
1) Dad has it right, it's not a Mobius strip, but an M. C. Escher print that's the inspiration for this story. Graeme MacDonald, the BBC's Head of Drama at the time this was made, had two Escher prints in his office showing figures walking up and down all sides of a series of staircases. John Nathan Turner strongly disliked the prints, finding their optical illusory nature distracting. Christopher Bidmead, who had been Turner's first script editor on Doctor Who, was inspired by Turner's dislike of the prints to write this story as a kind of inside joke. 2) The name Castrovalva comes from another Escher picture that depicts a walled city atop a steep cliff and which the establishing shots of the city from this story deliberately resemble. 3)The changing from Doctor Who to The Doctor in the credits was done at the request of Peter Davison, who had the same pet peeve about it that Alex does. 4) Peter Davison's hair was darker in the opening shot immediately following the regeneration. This was done to suggest a more gradual change from one incarnation to another. Similarly, Tom Baker's hair had been tightly curled in Planet of Spiders and Robot to be more similar to Jon Pertwee's hairstyle before being allowed to revert to Baker's own, looser ringlets. 5) You may have noticed that, aside from changing into slacks from her earlier voluminous skirt, Nyssa gradually sheds more and more of her costume as she and Tegan carry the zero cabinet through the woods, including getting her hair accessory snagged on a tree and not noticing as it's yanked out. This was deliberate as they wanted to eliminate some of the bulky aspects of her original costume in favor of something more practical if she was going to continue appearing in the series. 6) There's no such person as Neil Toynay, that's an anagram for Tony Ainley, so that people reading the cast list in the Radio Times (which was roughly equivalent to the TV Guide in the US at the time) wouldn't be spoiled about the Master being the Portreeve, though I daresay many of them realized while watching the episode much as you both did. 7) Now you know why the celery on the Doctor's lapel never rots, it's not real celery, it's celery that's been created through block transfer computation. 8) During the return to the TARDIS scene, you may notice that Matthew Waterhouse (Adric) is looking very pale and ill. They had stayed overnight at a local hotel while filming on location and he had gotten very, very drunk the night before and was feeling the after effects. During the close-ups of the Doctor and Tegan, when the Doctor is asking who landed the TARDIS, Adric was behind a nearby tree, puking his guts up. 😂
@richardlemin7840
@richardlemin7840 Жыл бұрын
Whobp8: #8 - Been there, done that, slept in the kitchen sink (tequila). ~Dad
@EvHervey
@EvHervey Жыл бұрын
WHAT? I know about Harris, but I hadn't heard that rumor about the Toymaker, He would be GREAT as the Toymaker!
@darrendalby9003
@darrendalby9003 Жыл бұрын
The repeated Doctor Who episodes between Logopolis and Castrovalva where An Unearthly Child, The Krotons, The Three Doctors, Carnival of Monsters and Logopolis again.
@stickytapenrust6869
@stickytapenrust6869 Жыл бұрын
There was also Keeper of Traken and one of the other S18 serials repeated a few months before the Five Faces season.
@BulbasaurRepresent
@BulbasaurRepresent Жыл бұрын
If anyone is wondering why they picked the Krotons out of all the stories, it was because the requirements were that it needed to be 4 parts maximum and no episodes could be missing. The Krotons was the only 2nd Doctor story that fulfilled both the requirements at the time.
@davidbull7210
@davidbull7210 Жыл бұрын
They switched to two weeknights a week in the early 80s. I think the days in question changed over the next two seasons but it was still (mostly) that pattern. This story was the third or fourth to be filmed so it doesnt follow on production-wise from Logopolis, in fact there's a good six or seven months gap. Lucky they pushed it forward to a January airdate or it wouldnt have been ready for broadcast. Castrovalva is the name of a print by Escher but strangely it isn't the one with dodgy staircases but a relatively straightforward piece by his standards. One more factoid: the rocks the doctor climbs up are the same ones Jamie climbs in The Mind Robber.
@robalexander8065
@robalexander8065 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Season 19 Mon/Tue; Season 20 Tue/Wed; Season 21 Thu/Fri.
@davidbull7210
@davidbull7210 Жыл бұрын
@@robalexander8065 And naturally therefore on to Saturday for s22 😉
@JAYWALKER1000
@JAYWALKER1000 Жыл бұрын
When they filmed 1st episode (the 4th one aired) Rory had just been cast,
@bjgandalf69
@bjgandalf69 Жыл бұрын
I personally really like the maroon Tom Baker costume and even looked at having one made when I was a teenager. I've even considere ordering one From China. June Hudson, who did all the beautiful costumes for both the Romanas and other female companions like Nyssa, designed the costume for Tom at the request of JNT.
@benjaminwilson2945
@benjaminwilson2945 Жыл бұрын
Don’t worry, I understand it was mistake, but it was nice to watch this video early.
@sabalomglitz6478
@sabalomglitz6478 Жыл бұрын
No troughton regeneration because the BBC hadnot renewed it yet and Jon wasn't cast until months later.
@stickytapenrust6869
@stickytapenrust6869 Жыл бұрын
It had been renewed already on the proviso that if S7 didn’t improve on ratings from S6, then the show would be binned.
@GideonTyree
@GideonTyree Жыл бұрын
This was the first episode of Doctor Who I ever watched. (I don't know how on Earth I managed to confuse it with "Keeper of Traken" in the comments on that video).
@robvanriot
@robvanriot Жыл бұрын
Not the worst first story for a new Doctor ever (that's yet to come), but easily the weirdest
@davidbull7210
@davidbull7210 Жыл бұрын
Re Power of the Daleks, all Who stories were filmed in order of broadcast until The Curse of Peladon/The Sea Devils. After season 8 it became de rigeur.
@mikeyp5536
@mikeyp5536 Жыл бұрын
The celery will be explained !!!.
@Darren79
@Darren79 Жыл бұрын
There was no hand over between Troughton and Pertwee as Pertwee hadn't been cast when they created the film regeneration sequence. With respect - you've never seen Troughton's first performance in Power of the Daleks - you've seen a limited and stilted animation. 😎
@andrewbowman4611
@andrewbowman4611 Жыл бұрын
The Doctor picks up a cricket bat. Not quite sure why you think they're white. They're usually made of wood and treated with linseed oil (hence the Doctor's comment). While this does protect the bat, it could also create a bit of a shine, while could reflect back as white on monochrome televisions, I suppose.
@jcortese3300
@jcortese3300 Жыл бұрын
I think he was saying it should be wider, not whiter. I would have thought so too, but I'm not at all familiar with cricket.
@phantomsidious2934
@phantomsidious2934 Жыл бұрын
They didn't film the 2nd doctor to the 3rd doctor because the new doctor wasn't cast at the time they did wargames, and the series behind the scenes had issues so there was a question mark if the show would even return
@stickytapenrust6869
@stickytapenrust6869 Жыл бұрын
Pertwee had been cast by the time of the studio recording session for War Games 10, but not at the time the pre-filmed ending shot to that episode was recorded.
@stickytapenrust6869
@stickytapenrust6869 Жыл бұрын
And they did know the series would return. It was S7’s ending where the show’s future had hung in the balance.
@phantomsidious2934
@phantomsidious2934 Жыл бұрын
@@stickytapenrust6869 was it really, well imagine my embarrassment..... I got it wrong...oh no.....😢
@kemmdog4444
@kemmdog4444 Жыл бұрын
The joys of modern technology.😊
@joshuajoshua2732
@joshuajoshua2732 Жыл бұрын
The celery will be explained later on you'll just have to be patient. The reason for the question marks was because John Nathan-Turner (then producer) believed they would be marketable. This was in my opinion Doctor Who at it's peak the Davison to McCoy eras were a mixed bag for me the 1980's was the strangest times for Dr. Who it's best to just suspend disbelief at this point because there's going to be stories that's not going to make a whole lot of sense. I agree with you Alex on David Tennant he should not be the new Doctor i'm still annoyed that they made him the 14th Doctor.
@benjaminwilson2945
@benjaminwilson2945 Жыл бұрын
I feel like I’ve seen this video before.
@jonathanmurphy3141
@jonathanmurphy3141 Жыл бұрын
Pertwee had not been cast yet. The end of The War Games, a number of contracts ended, and the BBC had not yet committed to renewing DW. Season 7 was on "probation" to see how it would be, in color, and new cast -very successful, Season 7 was. So Troughton ended,...the BBC decided,...Pertwee was cast. With TV back then, who was going to view repeats, or analyze years in the future?? Like Hartnell's clothing changing with regeneration into Troughton's new -who would notice, with one-time viewing (they thought).🤔
@nicholasthornley9708
@nicholasthornley9708 Жыл бұрын
Most Americans don't realise that cricket is the second most popular sport on the planet.
@robvanriot
@robvanriot Жыл бұрын
Cricket isn't even the second most popular sport in England
@nicholasthornley9708
@nicholasthornley9708 Жыл бұрын
@@robvanriot I wasn't even talking about England, I was talking about the whole wide world but whatever. Get back under your bridge troll.
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood Жыл бұрын
@@robvanriot Sure.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_in_England
@joshuajoshua2732
@joshuajoshua2732 Жыл бұрын
I dont like cricket i love it 😂
@robvanriot
@robvanriot Жыл бұрын
@@Mrazmatmahmood I'm not denying it's popular - it's just not second. Rugby attracts far bigger crowds than county cricket.
@AmyWarriorPrincess
@AmyWarriorPrincess Жыл бұрын
I like the 5th doctors entir 1st season. I literally grew up watching the 4th and 5th doctors. Something tells me you're not gonna like any of this stories. I'm the 5th doctor, but that's okay. You didn't get the chance of growing up watching them, like a lot of us did.
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood Жыл бұрын
Not sure what made you say that considering they thought this story was pretty good overall and they really liked how it introduced the fifth Doctor? I mean, I know they hated Kinda but they still thought Earthshock was great, so there isn't really any reason to think they'll not like the fifth Doctor's era yet. Perhaps you wrote this comment before you watched the reaction?
@conscienceaginBlackadder
@conscienceaginBlackadder Жыл бұрын
It would be too rushed made shorter. Each episode's events are worth having to make the full story
@Sigurd-r5
@Sigurd-r5 Жыл бұрын
I like your shows but to the guy on our left maybe you should bring a box of tissues on set in future?
@7thHourFilms
@7thHourFilms Жыл бұрын
Was I sniffling or something?
@Sigurd-r5
@Sigurd-r5 Жыл бұрын
@@7thHourFilms Yeah, quite a bit on some of the videos I've seen of you . I haven't seen many yet though, I'm new here so maybe those videos are not typical whatever. So yeah, tissues are good to keep handy anyway! No offence meant. Great show you've got going!
@Sigurd-r5
@Sigurd-r5 Жыл бұрын
@@7thHourFilms Can I just add that yesterday I watched you reviews of The Flux part 5 and 6 and I was really impressed with your well reasoned thinking on what the heck it was all about. And I liked your conclusions. They made a lot sense to me and I also liked it as an explanation. I wonder what Chibbs would make of it?
@7thHourFilms
@7thHourFilms Жыл бұрын
I bet he was happy to people online that can explain inconsistencies and plotholes for him! I joke. I did enjoy those episodes but now I can't even remember what I said in them! Glad you enjoyed it!
@Sigurd-r5
@Sigurd-r5 Жыл бұрын
@@7thHourFilms Okay I've watched a dozen or so videos of you Alex from different years and I gotta say frequent sniffing has not been an issue on any of them. I'm afraid I jumped the gun on that one. I wish I'd waited a bit to see if it was regular thing or not. It's not, so Cos I wouldn't have mentioned it. No need to. Infact no need to mention it either way. It's kind of rude. I feel bad about it now. Sorr However, I stand by what I said about tissues being good to have nearby, anyway. Regardless you never know when you might need one. I love your comment on the Flux part 6 ; "Time is a dude?" Happy hug-slugs
@joshuaverran9443
@joshuaverran9443 Жыл бұрын
It's ok to say this was crap.
@7thHourFilms
@7thHourFilms Жыл бұрын
Oh, we would let you know if we thought it was crap! It's not perfect but it's alright. Going on the tier list last week, I'd give it a C.
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood Жыл бұрын
@@7thHourFilms C is harsh! A B at least....
@7thHourFilms
@7thHourFilms Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't debate that much. I certainly liked it but it's not great.
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood Жыл бұрын
@@7thHourFilms I don't think it's great either, but it certainly deserves better than a C imo. It's far better than average, as I said in my review/comment (which I hope you read....), it's a good and interesting story, but it doesn't deserve to be any higher than a B. The biggest thing holding it back is the slow pace at certain points, but part of me thinks it was intentional to give this story a relaxed and leisurely feel to tie in with what Castrovalva is. I don't really agree that it was unclear what the Master's plan was though. He intended to lure the Doctor to Castrovalva and trap him there and he succeeded. The Doctor was trapped and had no way of escaping. It was only because the people the Master had created and populated Castrovalva with started to gain free will and they were the ones to help the Doctor defeat the Master and escape Castrovavalva. Without their help, the Doctor and companions would've been stuck inside Castrovalva forever... I also like that the Master's hubris is what trapped him inside his own creation. He had no need to become the Portreeve and try to confront the Doctor, but he can't resist rubbing his victories in the Doctor's face and wanted to get on last laugh at the Doctor's expense and it cost him dearly. One of my favourite things about this story is just how petty the Master is.
@Jaketherobonrd
@Jaketherobonrd Жыл бұрын
As for 5th Doctor’s first story it’s honestly slow and boring this story.
@robalexander8065
@robalexander8065 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if had been shown across the whole month of January 82 on Saturdays! The twice -weekly (Mon/Tue) slots mean its out of the way in a fortnight.
@joshuajoshua2732
@joshuajoshua2732 Жыл бұрын
I agree.
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