Doctor Who What if | What if the 9th Doctor Bi-Generated

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[@forcedalek]

Special Shoutout to @vortex0509 for that 9th Doctor regeneration VFX Upgrade! Did we like todays What-If?

[@JonathonHouse]

What if 12 bi generated into 13

[@reeceemms1643]

You couldn’t resist a tragic ending.

[@olaoluwapowilliams5169]

What if the 13th regenerating into Ncuti Gatwa? In this timeline he is the 14th Doctor not David Tennant.

[@JonathonHouse]

@@olaoluwapowilliams5169 what if yaz stayed with the doctor and was with 13 when she turned into 14

[@josephjones6539]

I didn't think the Doctor would have met Donna at all in this experience because there would have been no Rose to say goodbye to.

[@King_Zangetsu12820]

They kindah would've tbh. Destiny has been pulling them together for a long time

[@user-ir3ph7qg4p]

4:35 I don’t know I think Sarah Jane would have a few questions about bi regeneration and frankly her thoughts on 9 in general would be a bit different considering 9 was so different from both doctors she knew and even 1,2 and 5 if she remembered the five doctors.

[@emperordalek102]

finally an ending where we win finally.

[@forcedalek]

AT LAST!!

[@edititkitty]

😂😂😂😂

[@Dr.Who-is-awsome]

The Dr is inferior

[@emperordalek102]

@@Dr.Who-is-awsome correct

[@joshlawson5162]

Damn the way the music cuts out is insane

[@forcedalek]

HAHA, thank you! Was very proud of that, felt weirdly scary...

[@Nightwain]

What if ideas: What if Lynda survived season 1 what if Donna and wilf stayed after season 4 what if the 13th doctor bi-generated? what if the war doctor bi-generated?

[@forcedalek]

I’ll be doing Bi-gens for every doctor, if Donna and Wilf stayed after series 4 would Donna still have her memories ?

[@Nightwain]

@@forcedaleki wanna say yes

[@xandergrogan2012]

what if reinette travelled with the doctor?

[@Soron661]

@@xandergrogan2012 Even better. What if... the 10th Doctor let Lady Christina de Souza travel with him? I can totally see them having kids, considering they really were the perfect match.

[@reeceemms1643]

@@Soron661 I also put that idea down on a previous video. Seeing Christina as a companion would be nice.

[@forcedalek]

Btw I made a post a few days ago, saying how this what if will be edited differently to any other, I got my plans mixed up and that’s the FOLLOWING Tuesday 😅

[@Dr_Procrastinator]

What if in the "earth 2" alternat universe with the Cybermen had it's own doctor that helped out when 10, Rose and Mickey arrive in his reality. You could even choose a totally different actor as this doctor so of you had any cool fan casts this scenario would be the best time to throw them in. Maybe he/she is even ginger.

[@georgemiser]

Here's one. What if the 9th doctor had survived in The Parting of the Ways?

[@James_skywalker]

This was awesome. I have some ideas. what if Matt Smith bi generated. what if Jodie regenerated into Ncuti what if donna said yes to traveling after the runaway bride. what if a different companion had their own "turn left" situation what if Rory wasn't shot by the silurian

[@forcedalek]

I will be doing every bi-gen for each Doctor, I love that Donna staying with the Doctor idea!

[@mattthesilent777RED]

@@forcedalek What if Jodie Whittaker was never the Doctor?

[@elliottwallace7577]

@@mattthesilent777REDthen the world would be a better place 😂

[@mattthesilent777RED]

@@elliottwallace7577 Yeah and my original DW Parallel universe could be canon

[@samlopez5152]

@@forcedalekHow about one with Ten in ‘The Stolen Earth’?

[@georgeboothroyd829]

I love these. I'm excited every week to see what's next. Almost like when doctor who is on every Saturday. Keep up the good work :)

[@forcedalek]

Thank you!

[@ethankim6456]

What if 1 and 2 bi-generated? (Imagine the look on ben and polly's faces)

[@forcedalek]

SHOOK

[@ethankim6456]

​@forcedalek Out of curiosity, when will you do a bi generation video of 1 and 2?

[@Caxkj0]

You have a lot of potential: I look forward to see where this goes. Subscribed!

[@forcedalek]

Thank you! Any feedback?

[@Henry-oj1oo]

I’ve got an idea for a WHAT IF DOCTOR WHO What If the Sixth Doctor Bi-generated? We open with The TARDIS getting shot at like at the start of Time and the Rani, Mel is unconscious on the floor, the sixth doctor has his little speech from The brink of death and hears “it’s far from being all over”, confused the sixth doctor asks who’s there. No reply, he passes out. The TARDIS lands on Lecusha with The Rani and a Tetrap busting in. “Leave the girl, it’s the man I want. Take him to my Laboratory”. The Rani leaves. The Teptrap flips the Doctor over, his face flickers but unlike in the episode it’s still Colin baker. The Teptrap pulls the sixth Doctor up and carries him away, unaware he had just pulled the two doctors apart, leaving the seventh Doctor on the floor of the TARDIS. The sixth Doctor wakes up in the Rani’s base, she is confused why he hasn’t regenerated, that shot should have killed him. Unlike in Time and the Rani, the sixth Doctor isn’t dealing with post traumatic regeneration, he sees the Rani and tries to get away, the TepTrap walks into the room with the net gun, but the Doctor remembers that this is what carried him away from the TARDIS, but he feels as him his lost something, MEL!, he tackles the TepTrap, dodging the net and escaping out the door. Meanwhile the Seventh Doctor has woken up in his TARDIS, feeling like he’s just been shot, he looks down to see that he is missing his shirt and waistcoat, and he is shorter than he used to be. “Right, that was a good nap, now down to business, who am I? Where am I? And who are you? Mel!” The Doctor snaps out of his Hayes as he rushes over to Mel. “Mel are you okay?” The Doctor remarks, “What’s happening, who are you and why are you wearing the Doctor’s coat?” Mel replies, They have a little tussle before the scene where they check each other’s wrists from Time and the Rani Happens, “It really is you, but you’re so different, you’re hight, you’re hair!” Mel is astonished, “I know, but where has my shirt gone?, let’s have a look outside, shall we?” As the doctor goes to leave the TARDIS, the lecushain who would have kidnapped Mel sees both the Doctor and Mel, and throws stones at the Doctor calling him a monster. “I thought you said lecurains were a peaceful race?” Mel screams “We must have landed at a bad time, come on Mel let’s get out of here” the Doctor says flipping switches to take the TARDIS off, the sixth Doctor is running towards his TARDIS as it disappears into nothing, lost and confused on an alien world. After helping the lecushain who tried to kill the seventh Doctor and Mel, The Doctor is taken to their people the story would continue much the same as it did in cannon, but now with the Doctor taking the Rani’s TARDIS to send all the historical characters home. Using the TARDSI tracker, the Rani used to intercept his TARDIS, he follows his future self to paradise Towers, landing the TARDIS at the top just as Mel is getting attacked by a pool cleaner. The Doctor jumps in and fights the Robot and pulls Mel to safety. “Doctor, you’ve changed back?” Mel exclaims “I haven’t changed at all Mel” the sixth doctor responds. Mel tells the sixth Doctor about what happened and thinking back to what the Master had said during trial of a time lord “ the valeyard is a manifestation of your darker sides, between your penultimate and final regeneration”. His words dawn on him, He is at his penultimate regeneration, only one life left, whoever is downstairs isn’t the Doctor, it’s the Valeyard. With Mel and Pex in toe the sixth Doctor heads off to confront his successor, this would include a funny moment of the sixth Doctor heading down the stairs at the same time the seventh Doctor is heading up the elevator. The story would continue about the same with Mel clueing the Doctor in on what’s happened to the Tower, up until they all meet at the top of the Tower, the Red Kangs, Blue Kangs, the Oldies and the caretakers. The Doctor is discussing his plan as Mel walks in, “Ahh Mel good to see you and… wait a mo-“ Before the seventh Doctor can finish his sentence, the sixth Doctor lunges at him, they both land in the water, a tussle between the pair accumulates, with the whole tower cast watching them fight. Eventually the two doctors are pulled apart, by the caretakers and the Kangs, Mel tells them that they have to work together to defeat Kroagnon. With a unlikely alliance, the pair help each other to push him into the exploding room saving Pex’s life. The pair return to their TARDIS, where they continue their argument from before, both of them exclaiming that they are the real Doctor and the other is the Valeyard, with the Sixth Doctor’s quick to anger as a point towards it and the seventh Doctor’s killing Kroagnon plan as a point toward him being the Valeyard, they both decide to head to Gallifrey to get some answers. Landing in President Romana’s office the two doctors step out and ask if they can help find out who is the real Doctor. And that’s all I’ve got so far,feel free to ask questions or use this for the video 😊

[@forcedalek]

thats a cool one, loved how you think the timeline would go, I'll add this to the list and when using it, be sure to contact you again to review/edit the script :)

[@thephoenixsystem6765]

What if 10's metacrisis regeneration also caused 11 to bi-generate out of him?

[@ANIMUS.STUDIOS]

I already imagine if the Ninth Doctor survived after being exterminated by this dalek in this timeline. I think that the Ninth Doctor will regenerates into a totally different Tenth Doctor then our own. This different Incarnation will be played by: Robert Carlyle. He will replace Meta-Crisis Doctor's role due to Bi-Generation in this timeline. The events and the future will be alot different in this timeline, with Eccleston and Carlyle Doctors being a part of it. What you think about that?

[@forcedalek]

thats such a cool idea, would this Doctor be nicer or more evil?

[@ANIMUS.STUDIOS]

Well, @@forcedalek. This Doctor's personality will be a mixup of the Eighth and Twelfth Doctors'. But however, there will be no "Embarrassing dad" things like the guitars, Dr Disco or Sonic glasses. He will having abit of the dark side of Meta-Crisis Doctor as well.

[@user-vl2kl9pc6u]

Here’s one what if…the doctor never left gailfrey

[@halloumi4959]

I'm getting hooked on these, love your work. I made a suggestion the other day which got a reaction from you, 'What if every modern Doctor had only one season?' and I wanted to elaborate on how that could be made interesting. If you take a look at what makes each of the post-2005 Doctors who they are, they are each very much characterised by the events the Doctor before them experienced, in a much less serialized and more drama oriented and grounded way than Classic Who. That makes the modern era of the show more interesting for this kind of cast switch than the originals. Obviously, Series 1 and 2 would play out almost the same. But say for instance, in Doomsday, the Tenth Doctor was hit by a stray laser on his way out of the Void Ship vault in the battle between the Cybermen and the Cult of Skaro. He holds off his regeneration until the end but when Rose falls into the other universe and he holds off the regeneration long enough to say goodbye to her, right after the call, he violently regenerates, damaging the TARDIS much like he did in The End of Time, and turning into Eleven. You could either have a fun story right after with the TARDIS repairing itself, a regeneration-high Eleven and Donna Noble, the events of The Runaway Bride all happening just more chaotically, or you could skip that story entirely and have the TARDIS crash land on the Moon, where he meets Martha and outsmarts the Plasmavore. Eleven being much more socially awkward as a character might lend itself to stories like Human Nature/Family of Blood and Gridlock to play out a little differently, maybe by quite a lot. But I'm thinking Martha might not be so hopelessly in love with this incarnation than she was with Ten. Imagine Series 3 but without the one-sided love story plot, Eleven gets to meet Jack and the Master. I could go on, this might be a bit of a boring one in comparison to some of your videos but I think it has legs. In any case, again, loving your content!

[@forcedalek]

Thanks for the kind words, do you think 11 would suffer the same fate against the master? Or would 11 maybe manage to stop him earlier or maybe not at all

[@halloumi4959]

@@forcedalek I suppose that depends on how 11's personality is at that point. If he's his darker, gloomier self from the majority of Series 7, due to losing Rose, I can see a scenario where he actually picks up on the signs of Yana being the Master early, out of sheer negativity - or perhaps more interestingly, not being so willing and forthcoming to help the futurekind. His regular cheery self however would probably follow a similar route to 10.

[@swanboyproductions]

I’m just wondering because I’m a massive fan of the eighth doctor, what if the doctor who movie was a success and they kept Paul McGann? It’s something I would like to see, he had so much potential!

[@DoctorDuto]

I think the idea that when 14 dies he'll poof back in time to become 15 in the Giggle is stupid, even if that's what Russel is intending. Sure, 15 said that thing about him being fine now because 14 fixed himself, and them doing their healing out of order, but later he said the bi-generation split his soul in half. I think his first thought on it was just a theory, and he changed his mind after thinking about it more.

[@vinniequick]

I'm glad they didn't re sync as that's, as far as I can gather not how it works cause 15 remembers everything 14 went through and only doesn't remember their first adventure cause Timey Whimey+playing around to keep the Timeline in tact that's why for the what if 10 video I like to imagine he instead threatened Missy and 11 stood down and willingly was executed becoming 12 who he and 10 would rehab Missy as well as 12 himself to the point where there's no Spy Master, they deal with the rest of 12 and 13's issues just quicker, John Simm's Master is still killed by Missy now just out of anger for who she was before he's abandoned then they go and travel the stars again, eventually encountering Donna and then doing the 60th Special just 2 Doctor's+Missy as well this time ending in 10 being killed and sent back to become 11 and 12 plays the third game by himself, does rehab anyway and then becomes 13 now Ncuti Gatwa and goes on 15's adventures love your version but In my head the lore works a tad different, in the same way in this 9 wouldn't just die, he'd vanish so he could be sent back to become 10 hence why 10 who still had to stick to the Timeline but didn't know what happened post 9's death and the danger didn't care, tried to save him, and why he stuck with Mickey and tried to avoid caring about Rose the evil 12 Bigeneration I don't mind since she still remembers and that man was so paradox filled anyway he probably time fuck himself into it being rewound again I love these my fav is what if 10 died in Midnight but just my little head cannon/nit pick thank you for listening to my tedtalk lol

[@forcedalek]

Enjoyed the tedtalk x100, my second fav is deffo the midnight one, why do you think that one is your favourite?

[@vinniequick]

just the idea and how it all wraps up nicely, well personally I'd keep Rose on and have her meet Amy and that then leave in Series 5 by the end after for definite knowing it's not HER Doctor, and have her go to the parallel world to be their Doctor still having his IQ in her @@forcedalek

[@Soron661]

@vinniequick. Missy never regenerated. John Simm's Master even said there was no point as he had blasted her with the laser screwdriver's full setting. So that means Missy got her redemption. The SpyMaster is a previous incarnation. Probably the one between John Simm and Missy.

[@vinniequick]

@@Soron661 well big finish said different but it don’t matter either way cause it’s an Alt universe

[@vinniequick]

@@Soron661 but yes in the show The Masters says that Missy does just wind up using all her energy to regenerate into all the goodness in her aka the lumiat then she’s killed and becomes supposedly the Spy Master but lores iffy ay 😂

[@IcySlavKat]

Here's an idea, What if when 13 regenerated instead of regenerating into an old face she had before, she instead regenerates into an old face of a friend she once knew like Clara Oswald for example.

[@BensProductions]

Amazing do a what if 12 never regenerated next

[@sloppy-kasma2385]

Well, this is paradoxical. If the reality bomb destroyed every existing universe... How are other "What if" and even the original universe are still there?

[@forcedalek]

Maybe this is the last ever what if and all of them are out of order 👀👀

[@sloppy-kasma2385]

@@forcedalek Let's just say... The Bi-generated War Doctor with the 9th doctor find a way to reverse it.

[@RottenMilk313]

Plus if the multiverse contains an infinite amount of universes, then why aren’t there an infinite amount of reality bombs going off?

[@vinniequick]

(BTW you've inspired me to really start working on Doctor Who What If's and stuff Like I use to write and this is just a little fun thing because why not) So I've been thinking about how dark some of these worlds have become so to save peoples therapy money lol I've decided to SEARCH THE MULTIVERSE to find slightly altered happier versions What If 9 Bigenerated-Rose is able to hold on meaning she meets Martha and Donna and 9 isn't shot leading to them saving the day by surprising Davros with the weapon the Meta Crisis Doctor used+a last resort Shadow Proclamation assault. 9 then deciding he's becoming too dark ask 10 to come back onboard the Tardis just for a bit leading to the 2 Doctor's, Rose and Donna to go through the 2009 Specials and this time with 2 Doctor's they stop the Master a lot quicker and never have to sacrifice anyone. (yes there's more but I'm just adding the base changes so it's up for reader interpretation) 10 Dying in Midnight-Only change is the Tardis uses it's Power to do 3 things now not just the one, not only does it switch 10 the second before he's evaporated with the Meta Crisis Doctor the second before he dies, but now also using a bit of Paradox Machine Residue from when the Master used it switches the Meta Crisis Doctor the second before the energy went into him and the Meta Crisis Doctor the second before he died but keeps the universe intact with this with now get Series 5 with the 10th Doctor (now he's Bigenerated cause Paradox effects), the 11th Doctor, the Meta Crisis Doctor and Doctor Rose, 4 Doctor's 2 human and 2 not all helping Amy Pond What if 10 Bigenerated-10 adventures with Amy for 14 years and when the latter comes back he says it's 11's turn leading to the exact same adventures, 10 still stays humble though and just pops into 11's adventures sometimes or out speeds him to it leading to a different adventure for the older face What If 9 used the Delta Wave-The Moment teaching the Warrior about who he becomes brings 9 the second before the Delta Wave hits him and the Tardis to the future as both Doctor's stop Kate and the Warrior adventures for another 100 years before dying of old age by partial choice and 9 continues to adventure with an Older Rose before also going back and stopping the Titanic himself, saving Sarah Jane at the last moment and everyone in the hospital before bringing them 6 years into the future and just fixing up all the mistakes he missed What if 12 took Missy's army-This world already got a happish ending so instead this time 12's Bigenerated face looked like the older David Tennant 14 and instead of being a good face or a therapy incarnation like our 14 instead is all the evil in the Doctor personified so both Doctor's then conquer the universe themselves thank you for pondering into the brighter and darker sides of the Multiverse. Edit What If 11 Bigenerated-11 and 12 both go through Series 8 before capturing Missy, then while 12 and Clara go through Series 9 and Series 10 barring Missy all while 11 reforms Missy by the time we reach World enough in Time we have 11, a reformed Missy, 12 and Bill stop the ship and send the Master on his way, then we have the Fam, 11, 12, Missy and Bill go through 13/14's adventures 11 dying by the end due to the Toymaker and 12 going to go through 15's adventures on his own while Missy and Bill join Unit What If the Doctor stayed Human-This time The Watch entered Martha and after saving the day she went 40 years into the future to put the rest of the energy into a dying John Smith leading to Series 3 and 4 to be the same except 2 Doctor's, then we get to Stolen Earth Martha fills the Meta Crisis Doctor's Roll and warns the Doctor of the Dalek so he's never shot then Martha, Donna and the Doctor go through the Specials this time stopping the Master earlier using the 2 of them to throw him off, then we get Series 5-Season 1 just Martha and Donna (until like Series 8 due to her wanting to start a family) is also there, adventures are solved quicker and the Doctor I wanna say has 1 more Regeneration and's still 15 just we'd call him 14 not 15 this time. The Master Survived-The Exact same only this time Rassilon physically couldn't work his plan so we get Rose, Donna, the Master and Doctor adventuring with Child Amy Pond until letting her live a little and then going through Series 5, 6 and 7 only problems are solved way faster, then Donna and Rose are sent, the Master defends Trenzalore like the Doctor until he becomes Missy. leading to 10, Rose and Missy going through Series 8 (only Danny lives cause no Cybermen) Series 9 and 10 just this time they they just save the ship. this then leads to an altered Series 11-13 and in the Giggle, Rose is sent back to the parallel world, The 10th Doctor is shot and becomes the 11th Doctor saving the day and the Fam are sent home leaving Missy to go on Season 1 and beyond while 11 Retires temporarily with Donna and Family, with occasional Fam visits, Rose is kinda fucked though

[@forcedalek]

Love all of these ideas, especially with how there was 4 Doctors at one point!

[@bootstrapparadox8656]

Here’s a good what-if idea! What if Journey Blue (from Into the Dalek) traveled with the Doctor? Would her presence as a companion change the course of the 12th doctor’s journey?

[@cyclopsegg4735]

What if 2 and 3 bigenerated? Could imagine the amount of arguments they’d have…

[@midnight7786]

What if suggestion: What if Jack stayed with the Doctor and Rose after Series 1, as in the Doctor never left Jack or he was there right on time before the TARDIS left him.

[@forcedalek]

I like this idea, so im guessing he would then never go to Torchwood either?

[@midnight7786]

@@forcedalek probably not

[@thekennydancing2420]

What if instead of Jodie changing back into David, she revisited Paul Mcgann instead (It could be based of of the eighth doctors big finsh audios instead of tens series)

[@Mister_Banana_2137]

I have a suggestion for the next film: What if the 11th Doctor had a bi-generation?

[@jee-rj5ff]

13 bigenerated during her forced regeneration by the master (giving him an actual body) and failed to stop his escape?

[@thespidercrafter8547]

I have a WHAT IF request. It could be interesting. WHAT IF The Metacrisis Doctor stayed in the main universe with the main Doctor.

[@forcedalek]

Love it!

[@ryanlamb2636]

Hi mate nice video mate, do a what if war doctor bi generated mate.

[@joshlawson5162]

Now you need to do a bygeneration on 11-12 12-13. And a normal regeneration to 15

[@tjf8567music]

For your next what if should do what if the 14 doctor stayed for one more series and met Ruby Sunday that would be the best

[@forcedalek]

once season one is completed I will!

[@tjf8567music]

@@forcedalekcool

[@orbix2645]

I don’t know if you take suggestions or not but I think I have a pretty interesting idea. What if the tenth doctor with the Time Lord Victorious met The Master?

[@forcedalek]

I always take suggestions :), I love that idea too!

[@Timelord411]

What if The Master lived in "Last of the Time Lords"?

[@forcedalek]

this is one I will make sure to do!

[@Gmanluigi]

what if the 13th, 14th and 15th doctors surprised the other regenerations during the 50th anniversary?

[@Paddingtonshorts]

What if Wilfred mott was the main companion of season 4 instead of Donna pls!

[@tzarg]

I have an idea: what if the 14th doctor Tri-Generated?

[@Soron661]

Tri-Generated? Oh, god. That is a bit much.

[@forcedalek]

HAHA, I love this idea!!

[@TotallyHighQ]

Do what if the doctors failed to freeze galifrey

[@kylerees3491]

I like this better then the last one mostly because I didn't really like 11 going bad. Which Bi-generation are you doing next?

[@forcedalek]

I'm going to leave it up to a vote on the next what-if I do, probably between 11 or 12

[@RottenMilk313]

I don’t think there could possibly be an ending more catastrophic than this. Because the multiverse is presumably infinite, there would be an infinite number of casualties, leaving only 6 people left in all of existence

[@forcedalek]

EXACTLY, only question is what happens next?

[@RottenMilk313]

@@forcedalek part 2???

[@forcedalek]

@@RottenMilk313 👀

[@angrylama1068]

Love the Vortex's Colours

[@forcedalek]

Me too, they really fit!

[@thedoctor2415]

This is just making me think that any other doctor bi generating would have been better than the 14th

[@JohnCoon-tp7wv]

I’ll give you a little more of a weird one: what if Capaldi’s Doctor was the 1st Doctor

[@forcedalek]

Always love a weird one so thank you!

[@thelukeofficial9626]

That time traveller who moved a chair be like 👁️👁️👀👁️👁️

[@forcedalek]

Literally

[@evangravell5140]

Huh so by letting every Doctor Bi-Generate in their own little Universe R.T.D has unwittingly doomed the entire Multiverse!

[@danieljames6899]

From what we saw and heard from the 15th Doctor in the 60th special and from what Russell said, the Bi-Generation doesn't work in this way. 10th (as with 15th with 14th) should have 9th's memories even of events that have not yet happened to 9th.

[@davidbirks6368]

Part 2….turns out the 9th doc has a bit of regen energy left similar to Jenny and passed it onto Donna ? 🤣

[@forcedalek]

would be cool!

[@user-gw1dn1bj7t]

He would just yell at Tennant to kill himself like the Dalek😂

[@supersecret4390]

Wouldn't season 3 be different, as if Harriet Jones is prime minister than Harold Saxon can't happen?

[@forcedalek]

Well she may not have got voted in for a second term 👀or maybe she got tired

[@supersecret4390]

@@forcedalek True true

[@lemonwho9895]

Your videos are fantastic

[@forcedalek]

Thank you! Many more to come!

[@TheOvervoid]

What if the War Doctor was in series 1? (i.e. War in place of 9)

[@ilikecereal1041]

as a follow up to my other comment, i have another alternate idea for this timeline: When Rose is falling into the void at Canary Wharf, instead of dying, she is caught, not by Pete, but by 10. This would mean she would have to forge a relationship with 10, while knowing she can't go back and see her Doctor, that she knows is still alive in another universe. 9's story plays out pretty much identical to your version until The Stolen Earth. However, Rose has been secretly developing a way of travelling back to the original universe so she can see 9 again, without 10 knowing. Coincidentally, the day Rose manages to get the universe jumping device to work, is the same day 9 is shot by the Dalek, after working for so long to see her Doctor again, he is killed right in front of her. Rose, Jack, and Donna all bring 9 back into the TARDIS, where he begins to regenerate. However, this regeneration somehow pulls 10 from Pete's World into the original universe, replacing 9's body with 10's. Rose sees this and starts acting like 10 killed 9. Jack and Donna try to calm her down, with 10 feeling very hurt and betrayed after caring for Rose so much in Pete's World. Fast forward to being on the Crucible, with no Doctor's hand in the TARDIS to keep Donna behind, she steps out with the Doctor, Jack, and Rose, they are all forced to watch the TARDIS die. Jack still shoots at the Dalek, with the Dalek exterminating him in return, and the Doctor, Rose, and Donna all being imprisoned. Martha appears on the transmission with the Osterhagen Key. 10, feeling very emotional, and rash, with less of an attachment to the main universe's Earth after spending so much time on Pete's World, tells Martha that she can use the Osterhagen Key, bringing the Dalek's planet count down to 26, Rose and Donna try to argue against it but it's useless. Davros objects too and tries to teleport Martha onto the Crucible before she has the chance to use the key, but before Davros manages to teleport her, she detonates the planet. The teleport still worked though, so she is brought onto the ship, carrying the guilt of destroying Earth. Jack, Jackie, Mickey and Sarah-Jane all heard everything, they now have nothing to lose, and see the only way of defeating the Daleks to be to use Sarah-Jane's warp star. They join the transmission, and set off the warp star before Davros has a chance to stop them. The Crucible begins to explode, but Davros manages to expand the holding cells around the Doctor, Rose, and Donna to encompass the whole room, saving the lives of the Doctor, Rose, Donna, Martha, and Davros in the explosion, leaving everybody else dead. Davros takes control of what's left of the Crucible, piloting it back to Skaro. From this point this alternate story could go on forever. I imagine the Doctor, Rose, Donna, and Martha could become renegades on Skaro, now without a TARDIS, they have to survive on the planet. I do imagine there would be a division between the group due to the actions of the Doctor and Martha, and Rose's outburst against 10 earlier. There is a chance Jack could have survived the explosion due to his immortality, and he could either use his Vortex Manipulator to save everyone, or he manages to salvage the TARDIS from the shrapnel, since there's a chance it wouldn't have been destroyed by the explosion, or he could just even float through space until he is somehow picked up or lands somewhere. There is lots of potential for this Earth-less timeline I feel.

[@forcedalek]

I LIKE THIS A LOT

[@ilikecereal1041]

@@forcedalek im so mad, i wrote an entire other comment with a different alternate ending where there were 3 david tennants but i think it deleted itself 😭

[@bengates857]

U should do what if moffat did Jodi era 😂

[@forcedalek]

OHH YES!

[@crazyt1483]

I'd say that tge army of the ghosts stays the same since at 37:37 we find out that the cyber men where running and escaped but in this situation its the Dr they are running from. Maybe keep the army smaller because of the doctor If you want to do the no rose down the line. duing the gap chat Establish that the breach could not be fully closed but everyone who safely through the breach would be safe. Sadly due the to the quick rescue they only Pete only jumps with Rose with 1 disk if rose returns she would be sucked into the void effectively sealing her in Pete's world. Would also loved to have seen Ianto's GF lisa being some secondary character who was there as a temp. Then during cyberwoman we get a flashback to Yvonne going through and basically breaking the tools of the conversation stations turning them into life support for whoever was stuck in them the Torchwood response team start to try and rescue people all in vain as each person collapses and dies as soon as they are removed. As such Ianto loads Lisa in a lorry destined to Torchwood 4 (the Cardiff site) as he blames himself

[@forcedalek]

I'm definitely going to start weaving the spin offs into these more, thanks!

[@medichampion328]

What if Rusty the Dalek became a full time companion?

[@forcedalek]

love this

[@emperordalek102]

Finally the daleks win

[@Laurie85]

What if Amy choose to stay with the doctor in the end of the angels take mahattan ? What if Martha stays with the doctor until partner in crime ?

[@ryanlamb2636]

Hi mate are you doing a what if the Master bi generated videos mate?

[@forcedalek]

At some point probably!

[@ryanlamb2636]

Hi mate when will your next video be mate?

[@forcedalek]

videos every tuesday/saturday

[@The_14th_Editor]

What if The 13th Doctor Didn't get Killed by the Master

[@killroy7917]

What if the eighth doctor was in nu who? Have the first 2 series' be rose and 8. Considering how self hating 8 was by night of the doctor I'm unsure how much'd change but I wanna see what you can do with him

[@AlicCrafter]

What If the war Doctor BiGenerated into 9?

[@thattom]

What would have happened if the master went with the Doctor at the end of last of the time lords?

[@forcedalek]

Thats an epic suggestion and one I will get to! Does this mean the master would have regenerated though?

[@thattom]

@@forcedalek I don’t know maybe the Doctor gave up some regelation energy to help him heal?

[@mayanksingh9621]

I love this what if but pls make what if 13 doctor never degenerated form the master in the power of the doctor Or What if the 11th doctor was turned into a cyberman or What if the master won in the end of time

[@forcedalek]

If the master won would the timelords still return?

[@mayanksingh9621]

Yes but they will be turned into the master

[@CyberSpider35]

Okay. Now how about "What if Seventh Doctor bi-generated"?

[@nani4249]

What if the 9th doctor tri regenerated (into david, matt and himself)

[@forcedalek]

OHHH I LIKE THIS

[@sammaylam1775]

Found that ending super dark geez :/

[@forcedalek]

I KNOW...

[@ryanlamb2636]

When will your next video be mate?

[@forcedalek]

Today!

[@Soron661]

What if... the 13th Doctor Bi-Generated? I have 2 scenarios for such a video. * I suspect that you'd do something completely different to either of these, since people would've already seen both scenarios in this comment.* . Scenario 1) the 14th Doctor(While similar to 10, he is quite different) and 13 would go through the 60th Anniversary specials together and then Two versions of the TARDIS would split off when the 15th Doctor uses the hammer near the end of The Giggle. Unlike with 14, who he still advises to just go on an extensive vacation and stay with the Noble family, he'll tell 13 to go back fro Yaz. . Scenario 2) This scenario would begin mostly the same as scenario one. However, based on the only two videos of yours that i've seen, this scenario would have the 14th never Bi-Generate as there would already be two Doctors to play catch with the Toymaker. Afterwards, 13 and 14 would go off together. They'd share adventures until 14 eventually regenerates into 15, who would eventually drop 13 back off with Yaz after telling her not to run from her feelings and to embrace them. Then 13 would take an extensive vacation with Yaz until she dies of old age, since you had 9 simply die in this video, and show the 15th return for 13's funeral. There he meets Jack Harkness again, an older Jack who had streaks of grey in his black hair.

[@forcedalek]

I like this, I'll probably do this but it would be better to do once season 1 is done

[@TheAustralianMapper5378]

Still hoping to see my idea from previous comment I sent

[@forcedalek]

I will get round to everyones eventually, but with only 1-2 episodes a week, and hundreds of suggestions its going to take time! (I MAYYYY be starting a patreon though, where I'll then be doing 4 a week)

[@josephjoseph6669]

what if river never met the tenth doctor

[@forcedalek]

Unfortunately it would end the same as this, as the Daleks would invade and be unstoppable as the doctor would be dead

[@lewis14997]

This makes me think series 2 would be so much better with Chris instead of DT

[@forcedalek]

Would deffo be cool to have seen

[@tails7377]

What about Sylvester's Bi-Generation

[@forcedalek]

I will get round to every Doctor eventually!

[@doctorwhoproductions834]

What do you mean the bi generated would have resyncd, would would happened?

[@doctorwhoproductions834]

It’s alright I’ve just seen what if 10th Doctor Bi generated and explains it, so what would happen with 14 and 15 will they sync up and only 15 is left at the end of The Giggle, that could be a video suggestion for the future

[@forcedalek]

thanks!

[@oao814]

what if abzorbloff won

[@adamburke4738]

Damn that was a bleak end 😂 but not gonna lie, I just hate bi-generation as a concept.