Doctor Who What if | What if the Master Survived

[@forcedalek]

What do you all think would happen next..?

[@Lewis.l2]

I don't know. I think my dog might

[@reeceemms1643]

no clue.

[@Harveyc_Harveyc_]

Please let there be a part 2

[@emperordalek102]

can you make a if the dalek emperor survived

[@MineKurtMininer]

Amelia pond calls them The Raggedy Doctor and the raggedy Mistress though the master now calls herself Missy

[@MineKurtMininer]

*after regeneration* 11: is it weird that I.... Missy: Most certainly, we're not even there yet and even then its weird

[@Skyprison-nj8cr]

What do you mean by that

[@MineKurtMininer]

You should make a multi part series with this Part 1: 10 and Drum Master(i call him Drum master because hes so fixated on the drumming of his heart beat and its better than calling him Saxon Master) Part 2: 11 and Missy Part 3: 12 and Lumiat Part 4: 13 and Spy Part 5: 14 and Drum 2.0

[@Comicbroe405]

It would've been fun to see the Master in a prison in the TARDIS as a regular character.

[@FrostyScarf]

Scream Of The Shalka:

[@forcedalek]

I wonder if he would have become friends sooner

[@Synthpopper]

Interestingly, Simm didn't do much between 2007-2009 so it would've fit his schedule, too.

[@BauerandBagwell]

The editing in this is absolutely top notch. Magnificent job

[@forcedalek]

Thank you, I had help from someone else (credit given in description), but yes thanks we worked hard on it!

[@thespidercrafter8547]

The TARDIS while they both regenerating: "NO!! NO!! HAVE YOU BOTH CONSIDERED ME?! HAVE YOU CONSIDERED WHAT DOUBLE THE REGENERATION ENERGY WILL DO!? FIRST I ONLY HAD TO DEAL WITH ONE OF YOU, NOW I HAVE TO DEAL WITH TWO OF YOU!?"

[@forcedalek]

EXACTLY

[@thespidercrafter8547]

@@forcedalek Poor TARDIS.

[@HelloDepthProduction]

I can see the tardis absolutely mad at them lol.

[@VegitoBLUE08]

Tardis: I’m done with this commotion, I wonder if the matrix is still open to evolving me into a type 100…

[@thespidercrafter8547]

@@HelloDepthProduction Exactly lol. There better be a moment like that in part 2!

[@thespidercrafter8547]

I could definitely Imagine Donna in this timeline helping The Master with his change and development, abit like how Rose did 9 in S1. Maybe she could help repair and restrengthen the Doctor and The Master's friendship.

[@JohnKidd-up7uh]

I do love the image of The Master and Donna chilling out and chatting between mimosas and massages during 'Midnight'. XD

[@Soron661]

going with the onscreen regeneration chronology for the Master, I see. Shame, though I suppose SpyMaster wouldn't ever exist if Saxon-Master reformed. At least, not until one of the Master's incarnations experienced something that rendered him homocidally insane once again.

[@forcedalek]

Who knows what p2 may hold...

[@Musa313]

Please make a part 2 for this, one of the most interesting what ifs

[@forcedalek]

I will be don't worry! What was your fav part?!

[@Musa313]

I just like the whole idea of the two Timelords being on the same side for once like series 10 did

[@everythingdoctorwho]

The Greatest Cinematic Masterpiece

[@forcedalek]

Thanks! What edited scene was your favourite?

[@everythingdoctorwho]

@@forcedalek Definitely the regeneration scene.

[@forcedalek]

@@everythingdoctorwho 100000%

[@reeceemms1643]

I'm keeping to my two suggestions of what if Jenny didn't get shot in the Doctor's daughter, (AE. the guy who shot her was stopped before he could pull the trigger). Or what if the Doctor let Lady Christina join him in the Tardis.

[@forcedalek]

Lady Christina in the Tardis would be interesting, I could see that really changing The End of Time..!

[@Dr_Procrastinator]

@@forcedalek what if Jenny regenerated/ was a timelord.

[@forcedalek]

@@Dr_Procrastinator nice idea!

[@TheAustralianMapper5378]

This means the doctor doesn’t have to pilot the Tardis alone having to go over every panel instead he only has to do half now.

[@DelilahConcepts]

Love this!, I see you Force. In that VC.

[@forcedalek]

Reporting you for stalking

[@DelilahConcepts]

Im always watching.

[@vinniequick]

So Missy (who should have 8 Regeneration's) and the 11th Doctor (who should have 1 Regeneration left) should be able to stabilize the Tardis no, I mean even if they land in the 1990's it should all be the same just they go to Unit afterwards or are able to travel right away with Child Amelia, we need a Part 2 PLEASEEE

[@forcedalek]

Part two will be happening!!!!! What would you want to happen?

[@vinniequick]

@@forcedalek 11 is trapped living Amelia and helps her grow up with Rory into a good person while Missy tries to fix the Tardis and then shows up by accident 12 years later, helps, then disappear again, shows up again after fixing the bugs, then we get Series 5-6+Missy. then once Series 7+roles around Missy plays a main part so that's up to you, what I will say is I think to fully redeem herself she'll defend Trenzalore for the Doctor

[@ryanlamb2636]

Are you doing the next part with missy the 11th doctor video mate.

[@forcedalek]

Eventually yes, what did you think of this part?

[@ryanlamb2636]

I quite enjoyed seeing the doctor, the master both regenerating together is good.

[@Dr_Procrastinator]

@@forcedalek it was incredible. loved it

[@forcedalek]

@@ryanlamb2636 yeh, it's a cool scene!!

[@forcedalek]

@@Dr_Procrastinator Thanks!

[@spinningadam]

Oh the doctor and master regenerating at the same time sounds like such a cool idea!

[@ridbensdale]

I really enjoyed that. I’d love to see some Classic Who ‘what if’ scenarios.

[@forcedalek]

They will be coming! What ones would you like to see the most?

[@ridbensdale]

Let’s think… What if the Fourth Doctor was successfully Time Scooped in The Five Doctors? What if the Sixth Doctor actually did kill Peri and went down a much darker path? I could go on…

[@jogames8415]

How about What If the 5th Doctor Didn't Save Peri in The Caves of Androzani?

[@isaachoward8766]

@@forcedalekwhat if the Daleks sided with the cyber men at touchwood to take out the doctor 😮

[@thequietestengine]

There is something about this I had a thought on..... what if, the 'forced regeneration' with Spy Master and 13.... was done to save her? I dont know, its not formed in my head fully, but the Master merging with the Doctor to save them, until they can be seperated again, which is why Fourteenth wears a similar outfit... to carry on the Master in some way whilst he's recovering from BEING the Doctor for a while? Just discovered your channel and LOVE the recent What Ifs.

[@fiftybytes]

that went very different than i thought, but it was brilliant. and that'd be twice the doctor died for rose

[@FrostyScarf]

Well, this is better than anything I could have pitched🍿

[@forcedalek]

What ideas do you have, I'd love to hear some!

[@ryanlamb2636]

When will your next what if video mate?

[@forcedalek]

Unknown but hopefully next saturday!

[@donteherriott5509]

God I can imagine the dialogue between the Doctor and Owen…

[@Synthpopper]

The one where Eleven finally (instantly) met The Master

[@wonderproductions3949]

Can you do what if the 11th doctor regenerated into 12th on Lake Silencio?

[@Lewis.l2]

I'm hungry. I want pizza.

[@forcedalek]

Me too

[@FantasyClashes]

It would be fun if both of them crash at different place The Doctor at Amy garden and Missy at Rory garden

[@emperordalek102]

i think i had an idea before. what if the dalek emperor survived.

[@forcedalek]

Its a great idea!

[@THOMAS_VANN]

who the hell are you? we are the last of the time lords.

[@MCWhoniverse]

An idea: what if the master had his own Tardis during the events of the utopia 3 part thingo

[@MineKurtMininer]

11th Doctor after the Master regenerates:.......... you're a......... You're a GIRL!!!

[@Dr_Procrastinator]

"WAIT.. am I a girl"! *Checks his long hair before looking in his trousers* "AWWWW why do YOU get to be girl"

[@MineKurtMininer]

@@Dr_Procrastinator A-And STILL not Ginger

[@forcedalek]

THIS

[@MineKurtMininer]

@@forcedalek make this HAPPEN MAKE A PART 2!!!!!!

[@Dr_Procrastinator]

i will take personal offence if you do not write this into part 2... not really but MAKE IT HAPPEN@@forcedalek

[@jamesleonard9395]

What if The Doctor never met Amelia Pond. I think this would alter quite a lot. What do you think?

[@forcedalek]

Yes I think this would change a lot, do you think 11 would have had a different companion or just traveled solo?

[@jamesleonard9395]

@@forcedalek Well go either direction it is possible he could have met someone different in a different way from how 11 met Amy. Then again, he could go solo but the doctor has a habit of going too far The waters of Mars could be an example of.

[@potsdam28]

No River Song. No one to save 10 in the library. 10 dies before he was meant to. Time crashes.

[@jamesleonard9395]

@@potsdam28 I can see your logic but the same thing you’re forgetting. in the episode River song send the Doctor a message and how he ends up going she would never send the message he wouldn’t go The library in the first place

[@muazo9916]

I hope we get a part two of this

[@theentity5201]

Wouldn't the end of time just not happen if the master didn't need to be ressurected? He made the immortality gate work after being kidnapped by naismith then hijacked it to create the master race Without all that the time Lords wouldn't return and David Tennant keeps his face

[@potsdam28]

Wouldn’t Rassilon just find another way? He could see the future

[@Nightwain]

The doctor’s daughter has been redubbed the master’s daughter XD also can a part 2 of this be made?

[@forcedalek]

I will be making a part two and yes it would have been renamed!

[@melodysoundy7627]

Amazing video.

[@forcedalek]

Cheers! Do you have a favorite moment?

[@SambidKarki-f4y]

Can you do what if the 5th doctor regenerated in arc of infinity.

[@forcedalek]

I'll add it to the list!

[@samphoenixoficial]

Is there some sort of part two as to how series 5 would look with this? As I know usually these videos and with some sort of paradox that returns to the main timeline.

[@RevanNaut]

Funny how I was expecting everything to go balls up with this one by having the Master living instead of dying (And it didn't, surprisingly) but the 9th Doctor bi-generation one completely threw me off with that happy-ish beginning turning into reality ending chaos lol

[@ryanlamb2636]

Hi, are you going to do a what if videos for all the masters mate?

[@StiaanGrobler]

Is there going to be a part 2

[@ryanlamb2636]

Hi mate when is your video going to be mate?

[@jimmythedoll9820]

The Doctor would spare The Daleks, because The Master isn’t as erratic as Metacrisis.

[@TheHalloumi]

I love the content and I'm definitely a fan of these 'What If' videos, but some of this felt a little rushed. You alluded to the Master having some kind of arc in Journey's End, but nothing happened with it. And then Rassilon brings Gallifrey back 'through other means'. This was great, don't get me wrong, but it maybe could have done with more time in the oven - just trying to give positive feedback

[@Caxkj0]

A little handwavy in places, a little deseprate to keep as much of the flow to the original continuity as possible. But overall, a decent story, I just have to advise you don't need to keep playing it safe and sticking to the same story beats in the show as possible. Keep it up!

[@forcedalek]

Yes, some episodes stray closer and some are further, thanks for the feedback and glad you enjoyed!

[@ElectricBlitzNinja]

This needs a part 2!!

[@ryanlamb2636]

Are you doing part 2 mate?

[@forcedalek]

@@ryanlamb2636 at some point yes 🪐

[@vinniequick]

loved this

[@forcedalek]

Thanks!

[@elijahlarson6703]

Plz now do a series with this because now how will this affect amy

[@MrLtia1234]

He always does! 🙂

[@Marcilla_Fae]

can we get a sequel plz?

[@TheAustralianMapper5378]

I have a what If idea. What if Susan and David Campbell went with the doctor instead of Susan leaving. And what if the 14th doctor had the same face as the 1st doctor.

[@Multiverse_Misfits]

You missed key events like maybe lady Christina join the master and they left in the bus

[@benboswell31]

What if Dalek Caan joined the Doctor at the end of Daleks in Manhattan? 🤔

[@HypertronPrime]

Can we get a part 2 😱

[@mayanksingh9621]

yeah

[@forcedalek]

yeh

[@MineKurtMininer]

GIVE US PART TWO

[@MCWhoniverse]

I want a part 2 of thisss

[@VegitoBLUE08]

I feel like the master wouldn’t become missy and remain as a male time lord because regeneration into the opposite gender can only occur when a time lord commits suicide, like how the cannon Saxon master became missy

[@artisnoteasy6422]

then master

[@forcedalek]

fr

[@Lukehippo1]

( video idea ) what if rose never met the doctor

[@Commanderpioneer]

But what about the meta crisis doctor (I would’ve had rose, Donna, and roses mum leave the show the same way)

[@The_Nordic_Doctor]

moi kaikki

[@forcedalek]

ruhhye hg gr rw gg

[@Lewis.l2]

Can we get Pizza

[@forcedalek]

What toppings?

[@Dr_Procrastinator]

@@forcedalek pineapple. garlic base.

[@forcedalek]

@@Dr_Procrastinator questionable

[@thespidercrafter8547]

@@forcedalek I love pineapple.

[@Commanderpioneer]

Yeah this video gone completely wrong

[@ANIMUS.STUDIOS]

No Offense to Missy, but... It could've been an alternative Master, who, had became an ally to the Doctor instead of Missy? The reason for this? Wel... I think that the Master already had his redemption arc in this timeline if he survived, so... Sorry, mate.