DOCTOR WHO: WILD BLUE YONDER REACTION

[@benjaminwilson2945]

People complained about the episode implying the doctor liked men, and how it hadn't been implied before. But to be fair it was never really implied the doctor liked women either until the 1996 movie.

[@TheMarioAdams]

I mean there were quite clear indicators that the Doctor had had a family biologically so there’s that.

[@benjaminwilson2945]

@@TheMarioAdams There's nothing to confirm the doctor and Susan are biologically related in the main show as far as I know.

[@sallyatticum]

@@TheMarioAdams WE don't even know how their biology works...

[@alessandroarsuffi9227]

The Ninth Doctor never refused a kiss on the mouth from Jack and Eleven even kissed Rory of his own will.

[@hanonhold]

I feel like of all the "woke" stuff people have an issue with this one makes the least sense to get angry about. The character was pretty much asexual for most of the run and didn't really have the womaniser thing going on until Tennant 1.0. Nine flirted with Jack quite a bit and didn't react negatively to being kissed by him. Eleven had a few 🌈fruity🌈 moments. Twelve said Missy was his "man crush" (referring to when she'd been the Master). For a species that's shown to change gender I think it makes sense their sexuality wouldn't align with straight humans. It's one of the cases where I think it makes perfect sense in-universe and the negative audience response is a result of real-word homophobia/discomfort. A non-issue imo.

[@rtaylor7384]

Seeing Wilf again at the end really was the highlight of the episode for me. The return of a Doctor Who legend.

[@NovaBridger]

I'm 20 years old and the Not-Things bloody terrify me - so freaking awesome!

[@peterhill9918]

I’m 46 and they creep me the hell out!

[@Omni_G]

Not-Donna the scariest one imo

[@fleason771]

Bernard Cribbins scenes were filmed during the Camden shoot for Ep1 in mid May 2022 but he would sadly pass away only 2 months later at the end of July 😭 I think it's amazing he wanted to be a part of the 60th. RTD wanted him in it more but his health didn't allow for what was planned. RIP Bernard 🙏 Legend.

[@NovaBridger]

Brilliant episode. I love all 3 of the specials, just gives me so much nostalgia 😍

[@NotAgnor]

This is one of my favourite episodes!

[@Doctor_What63]

So special to see Wilf at the end!

[@JennyDuncan-o3r]

Very interesting. I think i'm such a fan of high concept bizzare stuff that this episode was my bread and butter, but I totally understand how this episode could be too weird. I expect you'll absolutely love The Giggle. It's so fun.

[@KeithAndrewPGbiz]

You never fail to surprise me. :-) Easily my favourite of the three specials. An instant classic for me, this.

[@calebfairchild1830]

This was honestly my favorite of the three specials. I loved the weirdness and the reveal of the captains plan at the end.

[@friendlyotaku9525]

This is honestly my favourite of the 2023 specials precisely because of how weird and out there and creepy it is! And Wilf at the end was a lovely bonus ❤ Though I can understand if this episode is not to your tastes. And it makes me so happy to see the Timeless Child and Flux be a part of this new era, RTD is a legend for that!

[@ItsArcticVision]

After the way the star beast concluded I was initially let down so my expectations for this episode slightly lowered, I wasn’t expecting Matt smith or Capaldi to return or anything but part of me was still highly anticipating this because from the trailers we had of the 60th specials very little of WBY was shown. I ended up watching this together with some of my mates (two of whom weren’t Doctor who fans) and I’m so glad this episode turned out to be brilliant 😂😂 I was on the edge of my seat the entire time, I even jumped when wilf showed at the end! Definitely my favourite special out of the 3 60th specials. It’s the only one that I didn’t have issues with on first watch, for the others I ended up liking them much more after a few rewatches

[@scottredding7357]

This reaction is too long. The reactions are so very difficult.

[@CrankyGrandma]

Took me a minute to “get” that 😂

[@darkwolf7740]

​@@CrankyGrandmaYou could say it took you a... long time.

[@DogmaCelestial246]

Oh, I get it now. I'm stupid .u.

[@HamzaReactz]

Took me 9 hours to get it, just woke up now and realised 🤣

[@DogmaCelestial246]

@@HamzaReactz lol

[@SeeJay81]

I absolutely loved this episode the first time I watched it, and loved every rewatch ever since. It's definitely one of the more left-field Doctor Who episodes, but some great moments from David and Catherine.

[@chanceneck8072]

Seeing Bernard Cribbins like this made me cry.

[@finnatikk]

I can understand why you didn't really think much about this episode and I agree the emotional scene with the doctor and the not thing Donna was good, the idea of the not things was quite good because they would be very dangerous if they went into the doctors universe and it can be creepy sometimes with duplicates and that

[@Omni_G]

Imagine the TARDIS having a system that ditches you in a place so dangerous that it had to run away. Like, it didn't even try to fetch the Doctor & Donna, it literally went "Y'all on your own." While The Star Beast was good but got alright after watching it a couple of times, Wild Blue Yonder for me, does the opposite. I had the same reaction as you when I first watch it. The Not-Things felt weird (Not-Donna is scary af tho), some times it felt like it took a while before it got to the exciting moments. But it definitely gets better. From what I've heard, people mention this episode feels more like a regular Doctor Who episode & is kind of a way to show people new to the series what an episode of Doctor Who might be like when it's not a special, though I might be wrong. One small issue I do have though is how tf the Doctor knows exactly where the vehicle is? The episode does up the danger level by removing his sonic & the TARDIS so all he can rely on is his intelligence, except thinking would make the Not-Things become them faster. Add to the fact that they're in a confided area & in the middle of absolutely nowhere where they can't go outside or call for help? Oh boy... When Not-Donna said, "We came from the nothing", I like to think she isn't saying they came from nothing but rather from The Nothing, because why say "the nothing"? Why not just "We came from nothing"? What if The Nothing is a realm where the Not-Things are originally from? What if The Nothing is a name of an entity like the Doctor, the Master, or the Toymaker, that creates the Not-Things? I honestly don't mind seeing the Not-Things again in a future episode, felt like there's more to them than we've seen, though that could just be me wanting my The Nothing theory to be right. Not in your reaction, but I don't really quite get when Not-Doctor says, "When something is gone, it keeps existing." Could anyone eli5 what he means? "It destroyed half the universe because of me. We stand here now on the edge of creation, a creation which I devastated. So, yes, I keep running. Of course I do. How am I supposed to look back on that?" "It wasn't your fault!" "I know!" plus the scene where the Doctor is just raging out, punching & kicking the walls? Absolutely love those 2 scenes and are my favourite in this entire episode. I really love moments where we see the Doctor just letting his emotions out. From the heroic image we usually see where he saves the day, we're reminded from these moments that the Doctor does have struggles, he does get angry, he does get sad, he does have regrets, he can feel lost at times, he does get lonely, & he can be in pain. In a way, it makes the Doctor feel more relatable to us. I also love how we see the emotions 13th has been hiding. There are times in 13th's era where it felt like 13th always held back her true feelings. The only time I remember her screaming in anger & frustration was in, I believe, The Timeless Child, & that was towards the Master, not her fam. After the Timeless Child & Flux incidents, it still felt like she was hiding her pain from everyone, trying to remain cheerful, but in this episode, the Doctor lets everything out. The Doctor didn't cause the Flux but it happened because of him. Billions of lives lost, planets destroyed, many now without a home, & the Doctor felt that it was all because of him. Honestly, and I really hope it's not just me, whenever I'm stuck on a complex question that I've been racking my brain on how to solve, I kinda act like the Doctor and go, "Let me think, let me think, let me think." It's kinda fun actually! BTW, not sure if you caught it, but in that same scene, the Doctor goes, "The captain of the ship, circling round and round forever. Caught in the gravity field." He didn't say mavity, instead he said gravity, which is why Donna got confused because after their accident with Isaac Newton, people now call "gravity" "mavity". The timeline has now changed & it seems like the Doctor isn't affected, he's just going along with it. Also, welcome to the Mavity era! Didn't really quite like the TARDIS saving the day at the end to be honest, kinda felt Deus ex Machina imo. When Donna was revealed to make a return, I remember everyone being worried because they thought RTD was gonna kill of Donna, & when "Best 55 seconds of my life" happened, everyone just had to get ready to hold back the floodgates if Donna did die in The Star Beast. Fortunately, she lived... then 6:25 fking happened. You real something RTD, you real something. Oh my gosh! It's Wilf! o7 And yes! This is what I've been waiting for in Doctor Who! The sense of danger from the background characters & not just the characters of the episode to show how dangerous things are getting! People screaming & fighting! A fking plane going down & exploding! THIS! This is what I want to see! Make the threat feel like a threat.

[@matthewpreston28]

U definitely need to see behind the scenes for this one

[@thetasigma412]

This is easily my favourite of the specials. I remember it was kept very secret until it was released and my excitement when watching it for the first time was through the roof! It’s a shame you mostly didn’t care for it, and I hope you enjoy the giggle

[@marcusrutherford1837]

lmfao ive been waiting for this reaction for so long 🤣🤣🤣

[@TheDoctorfat]

7:05 God, rest in peace Bernard Cribbins, you will be missed, you will be loved.

[@wemersonemanoeldasilva650]

" Mavity " I love this episode ❤️❤️

[@livingcoffee_edits]

0:25 yes he was

[@HamzaReactz]

So why the hell is he brown here 😂

[@livingcoffee_edits]

@@HamzaReactz "Diversity", not sure if you know why Davros is a normal human now but that's the worst imo

[@HamzaReactz]

Yeah I was told

[@Doctor_What63]

@@HamzaReactz because RTD, BBC and Disney are determined to be as ‘right on’ as possible… They cast for sake of diversity. I do believe that inclusion and diversity are important, and I don’t wish to whitewash the show, and Doctor Who has always been pretty good at hiring a diverse cast. But you’ve got to draw the line,m somewhere, especially with historical figures, since it can’t work the other way round, what if they fancied mixing up the casting for Rosa… not going to happen and why should it?! I also think RTD is trying to be provocative, he comes across quite arrogant in his interviews these days and fancies himself as a celebrity at this point. He makes decisions to get a reaction.

[@livingcoffee_edits]

@@HamzaReactz I think RTD is just projecting tbh

[@yusaki8064]

I think this episode was trying to mimic the feel of Midnight but it just didn’t quite hit the mark. I still liked it, I liked that this episode basically only had two actors doing everything. The creepiness of the Not Things was awesome too. But it is understandable if it’s not your speed.

[@marcusrutherford1837]

honestly hurts (not literally but you know what i mean) to hear this opinion because it is one of my top favourite episodes of the show and my fave for these two 🥲😭

[@SuperJohnPatterson]

Sadly that’s Wilfs last ever scene . RIP Wilf

[@ItsArcticVision]

Yup, wilf gets one more line in the next episode, but that’s just reused audio from series 4 :(

[@jadeskywalker06]

This was easily my favourite of the specials.

[@DWaDDLJ]

My favorite ep in a long long time!!! Absolutely love it.. it has so much mavity in it! It kind of takes a poke at AI... what with it never getting the hands and arms right 😂 but i was so creeped out by this ep... and having seen how the made it...made me appreciate it even more... RTD wanted to give these two something to really get there teeth into... literally 😂 and its so beautifully acted!! Two tennant and tates... acting geniuses!! The bit where the Doctor grabbed Donna's hand... omg i missed this type of relationship between the Doctor and companion... the hugs, the comforting etc... For once i emotionally care about the Timeless child and flux arc... im also glad RTD hasnt ignored it... and has added more layers to it.... for the Doctor... And Wilf... this was his last and only scene unfortunately due to Bernard's health getting worse... and not long passing away... im so glad we got this final scene ... rest well old soldier... Overall i love watching this ep again and again and picking up the finer details of the acting...the naunce differences Tate and Tennant bring to their two characters... And its a different way to do a multi Doctor as well 😂... star beast had The Doctor and Donna and Binary Non binary Doctor Rose... this has the Doctor and NotThing (such a clever name) Doctor... people were disappointed for it not having Matt or Peter... but i prefer it this way... not a cameo for the sake of it... but a story ... GIGGLE NEXT! Nearly there and we all be at the same page 😁

[@overlordswapi594]

My favorite episode of Doctor Who ever, absolutely terrifying, and often considered the best out of the specials, kept me at the edge of my seats the entire time

[@Whovian-w9d]

i Understand why you dont like its not for everyone. Before this episode broadcast it was being kept secret in trailers nothing much was said on it at all almost everything was kept secret with any footage shown in trailers glitching out saying "redacted" so that did make some people expect returning doctors and everything so some people i dont want to say "mad" but certainly disappointed with the episode. Where as with me im glad they kept it secret even though theres nothing big in it.. not a fan of things being spoiled for example in series 10 john simm was in the trailers i would have rather had the surprise. So overall for me good episode and glad they tried to keep it secret. Still understand the issues you have with it!

[@reeceemms1643]

it's sad because that scene with Wilf at the end is his only scene Because Bernard Cribbins, the actor who played Wilf died with that being the only scene he can film.

[@MeidasWhovianAdvocate]

It was so good and so scary

[@SmazSolaire]

Once again, you felt exactly how I did when I watched this!

[@haydncooper2557]

This episode is amazing!! How can you not enjoy it??? This is one is a favourite of the fandom!

[@HamzaReactz]

Makes sense why I don’t care for it then. I think heaven sent is over rated. Good but overrated :)

[@Doctor_What63]

It’s definitely not a favourite of the fandom, it was marginally less disappointing than the Star Beast and slightly less shit than the Chibs era - but compare it to the RTD1 era?? Some people compared this episode to Midnight which is hilarious

[@thetimeshadow6769]

@@Doctor_What63 It's acc very much like Midnight in terms of premise, and monster.

[@thesimpsons17]

I think you overestimate the size of the social media bubble. This episode was not widely loved, but I know its blasphemous to suggest anything with Tennants doctor in it isn't the greatest thing ever made

[@marcotewlow8533]

@@thesimpsons17 well yeah it’s not broadly popular but it’s absolutely a modern fan favorite

[@tom_4615]

I absolutely love this episode, can’t believe you found it boring 😅… it was proper old school creepy doctor who

[@dblauveltify]

It's a commentary on AI...

[@thesimpsons17]

Cool, that's just what we were hoping for to celebrate 60 years of Doctor Who

[@benjaminwilson2945]

I loved this episode. I watched it covered in a blanket, in the dark, with the rest of my family. It was really spooky in places, and had a good build up of the atmosphere and mystery. The ability of Catherine Tate and David Tennant to play multiple characters was really well displayed, and shows their acting abilities well., My only real complaint is that I wish they left the motive of the not-things more mysterious. But overall a pretty nice episode.

[@anniesharp4871]

I loved this episode! The weirdness was really original, and I hope to see the horse-like aliens at some point in future. Hope you enjoy the giggle more!

[@roguetwo7949]

I remember messaging my friend during the episode saying how bored I was, and then once it was finished I went online to see that everyone loved it! This would be okay as a filler episode in an 8 episode season, but not as a 60th anniversary special. Anyway, the giggle is my favourite of the 3! Excited to see your reaction

[@kuel6228]

You’re getting quite a lot of backlash here for not liking the episode. Guys he’s allowed to like what episodes he wants, I love this episode but if he doesn’t, he doesn’t. Obviously it’s always nice when he has the same reaction to an episode that you do but that’s not always the case. Love the Videos ❤

[@HamzaReactz]

I appreciate that, thanks ❤️

[@hanonhold]

Yeah the reason I watch this guy is because he's honest and doesn't let other people's opinions influence him.

[@arch1017]

Probably the best of the 60th Specials, but I know what you mean, I feel like there was maybe not quite enough plot for a full Special, and it drags in places as a result.

[@themanwithnoname2816]

This was easily the best 60th special for me

[@gamegeek812]

Each 60th Special and the Church on Ruby Road have Behind the Scenes featurettes. Will you be reacting to them?

[@HamzaReactz]

Probably :)

[@anthonymusgrave569]

The thing I liked most about this episode was we got a lot of ‘quality time’ with the Doctor and Donna, without all the noise and chaos of the previous and next episodes (although I liked both of them too - this was just a nice contrast).

[@90sArchive]

Personally loved this episode but obviously you're entitled to your opinion. Might be worth a rewatch later on down the line to see if your thoughts change.

[@mollymaclachlan]

Shame you didn't care much about most of this episode, but to each their own! It's probably my favourite since Heaven Sent. Weird creepy monsters are right up my alley. Seeing Wilf at the end was just wonderful. Yeah, the Isaac Newton scene is weird. Newton was indeed white, it's also very odd for the Doctor to go "1666, man holding an apple, must be Newton!" as if no one else held an apple in 1666. Not to mention the fact that the apple falling (there's no evidence that it fell on his head) didn't suddenly inspire him to think of gravity; gravity was a known force already, he just advanced and formalised aspects of it. The specific word "gravity" had also been in use for plenty of time by then. Just a very strange scene overall.

[@TomGallagherSuperboyBeyond]

Yeah this is kind of a Midnight/Edge of Destruction weird episode. I do like it, and i think it has amazing moments. The bit where The Doctor talks about how he imagines the Tardis goes to an outcrop somewhere, and the rise and fall of a civilisation around it while the Tardis remains. It's great. I'm glad RTD is still doing weird episodes, even if they aren't all for me. It had enough that i like about his writing, and i like the reference to The Doctor's trauma regarding what happened during the Flux and timeless child revelation. I'm glad it's not just been ignored, even if i'm not a fan of the timeless child generally. It's an episode that i think improved on my second watch. I'd give this a 7 maybe a 7.5 out of 10. Which isn't terrible, but it's pretty mid for RTD overall. I preferred Star Beast. But the next one is my favorite of the specials.

[@chanceneck8072]

I enjoyed this episode. Spooky scary WHO.

[@DiamondFire]

Wow ain't this episode just perfection... well I thought so any way. If you want something more high octane, perhaps the next special will be more to your liking 😳😳

[@majkus]

(drinking game: take a hot every time he says "what the hell?")

[@nathanjordon6950]

I liked this one. I think, as weird as it was, it was my favourite of the specials maybe just for nostalgia purposes. I just liked the fact it was a one off adventure, almost completely separate from the other two, where it was just the Doctor and Donna like the good old times and you get some nice dialogue between the two. The concept was certainly bizarre but different which I guess you have got to give credit for. It's not something that has been done before in the show. However, I get why you wouldn't like it.

[@jefersonmedeiros9545]

I absolutely loved the crazyness and mistery of this Episode

[@Unclep318]

A lot of people say this is their favourite of the 3 specials but I’m with you in that it didn’t do much for me. It felt like a strong focus on concept without any substance to back it up, it wasn’t a horror or mystery like it should’ve been.

[@darkwolf7740]

Great episode 👏

[@HudsonMedia]

People are gonna be interested by you being bored by this 😂😅 The practical effects were terrific. Wilf was amazing. The concept for the villains is interesting. But similarly I’m not that into it. For different reasons mind. The endings so cheap and pointless. The CGI effects are dodge asf. The story’s like fine? I suppose I just don’t like it cause everyone else LOVES it. Like it’s the second coming of Christ 😅

[@HamzaReactz]

😂😂😂

[@Look_Over_There]

The not things are such amazing villains. Imagine living in the nothingness feeling perfectly fine drifting and just not being. All of a sudden you’re exposed to light sound matter dimensions and form all at once that’s enough to drive anything mad but then you have war and emotions on top of that it’s no wonder they were the way they were. Some things are better not being explored.

[@CrankyGrandma]

It’s funny how different people like or dislike different episodes. I loved this one. Hated the Star Beast, loved this one. When you yawned I knew all those “what the hell?” were not good “what the hell?” 😄This was the highlight of the 60th for me. Creepy as heck. Can we agree that Tennant and Tate were amazing? Tennant is clearly playing a different doctor. He’s not Ten. He’s got the aspects of having a repeat physiology but he’s got all the Trauma of 11, 12, and even 13 (who was cheerful but did have trauma which has affected this regeneration). Amazing how he’s different.

[@HamzaReactz]

Yeah I really like how different he is, happy he isn’t just redoing 10 :)

[@davek7256]

We can’t all like the same episodes. I loved this, even though it was utterly bonkers. Like nothing I’ve seen before on Who. Good to experiment. Here’s to the next one!

[@MrHighlifewest]

Ooo do you know what at first viewing i felt very similar to you. But ive watched it a couole of times sinfe and came to love it. Its nice that 14 got his own original story. I honestly wish the run was 6 episodes instead of 3. Maybe in the future you might feel the same. Ive noticed doctor who has that thint where feelings towards a story can change so much over time. Sometimes you hate but then later on may love or vice versa. Idk if it comes down to life experienfe or maybe repeat watching but ive never experienced a franchise like it where one minute you could dislike or loge somethint then the next time opinikn change then in the future it again changes i cant put my finger on it. Maybe its the fact that the series evolves so much.

[@mimiquoi7380]

You know when RTD was annonced some haters screamed at loud that "RTD will save Doctor Who, he will retcon everything that Chris Chibnall did", so the satisfaction I had when this episode came and reference Flux. Now those haters are mad and I'm happy about it 😊 Oh and yes really great episode ! I love the psychological/creepy vibe of it. A really good episode 😊

[@ItsArcticVision]

Yeah it is quite satisfying watching them all switch up on RTD 😂😂

[@DigiRangerScott]

The speculation was WILD for this episode because the trailers had it be the parts most redacted. There were so few pieces to the episode they couldn’t show a lot. But because the expectations were so high already, so was the volume of content. Extremely fanservicey content believed to be hidden by the redactions. It was refreshing that it wasn’t

[@rtaylor7384]

At 5:00. This is why I think the 14th Doctor is different to 10 because of this. 10 would keep all that bottle up. It understandably why 14th would do that because The Doctor has gotten older now since he been 10th Doctor and has been though alot since. Yeah mate. You thoughts were mine when I watch this for the first time. This episode was weird and scary same time all because he weird seeing The Doctor wind Donna like that and it was scary because The Doctor almost lost Donna there because he almost made a big mistake there.

[@rtaylor7384]

It was weird to see The Doctor and Donna like that I mean to say there. Just correcting myself there.

[@nathanbusherw]

this episode is a weird one for me, part of me thinks it's RTD's magnum opus, but part of me is always a little bit let down by it purely because there was literally NOTHING released about this episode beforehand, no clips of it were in any of the trailers for the 60th, which kind of did make me expect a bit... more? edit: giggle tomorrow?

[@Ericiswaiting]

Man this episode is just so goated nice and eerie, there is debate on this episode cause this is the 60th and how its not as bombastic as it should be but its just fucking good and think it works with the rest fairly well

[@MrSamstackz]

@HamzaReacts watch Wild Blue Yonder again. If you got bored then weren't paying enough attention. This is the best 60th special out of the three.

[@matthewpreston28]

Everyone thought matt smith and capaldi were in this one

[@OliverEdinbAug23]

Interesting that you didn't care for the overall episode, I loved it. Mainly because of the same things that you listed but I didn't find the rest boring. My head canon since this episode is that Tennant's face came back because he's the "man that regrets". Very much in a similar state of mind after the Flux and after his (supposedly) genocide in the Time War.

[@sallyatticum]

A lot of the imagery in this episode is an homage to various horror movies.

[@thesimpsons17]

Happy 60th everyone it's Tennant and Tate running round an empty spaceship! Man how spoiled we are 😅 🥱

[@DBarkz-uz9ym]

I really really hated this episode when i first saw it, however, i watched it again a few times and reflected on it a lot and its actually become one of my favourites and i probably consider this to be the best of the three spcials. I didnt fully understand the plot on first viewing like with the countdown and such. There is just this eerie unknowning feeling you get which is the same feeling i get with midnight. The flux and timeless child mentions were really good and just shows you how good it could have been had chibnall bothered to show more how much it was effecting the doctor. Now that you have seen this. It's safe to tell you that rtd not only said he is not going to ignore the timeless child, but it is going to be a key story point going forward and he is going to build upon it. So it could effectively become what the time war was for new who in terms of an overarching story. And i have a lot more faith in rtd to make it interesting than i do chibnall honestly

[@The0thDoctor]

yes Isaac Newton was white...not sure what they were thinking with that one

[@LydiaHaterStevie]

These monsters were so very strange lol , I loved it but out of the 60th I enjoyed first and last ep the most , if it wasn't David and donna I'd definitely have skipped this one lol

[@Rik77]

I think this one only works for people who buy ihto the weird existential dread and that is enough to sustain them through the story. The plot is very basic, and is also used as a device for the two leads to converse a lot. I can torally see why some find it boring. I quite enjoy the social commentary buried in there about things like AI and those ideas explored.

[@raydenel]

yeah, i was kinda bored by this episode too, but for some weird reason, most of people liked this one the most(i mean from the 3 60`s episodes). anyway, david and peter will always be my doctors, i dont really care so much about others ;)

[@annaschwirian7548]

To me this episode felt to much like a filler episode and was not up to par with the starbeast or the next episode both of which i really really like.

[@Doctor_What63]

The opening Newton scene feels like a draft of a comic relief sketch RTD didn’t wanna let go… The rest of the episode felt a lot better than the previous. (Mostly) I’m glad the sonic got written out after the last episode, but since when has the sonic been needed to repair the console?! Implying the Doctor is gay - ‘was never far from the surface’ is moronic since when Donna knew him he still loved Rose - so he was apparently straight- so where’s this coming from RTD? I wouldn’t mind exploring the Doctor’s sexuality but from the POV that he doesn’t care about sexuality or gender and just loves unconditionally. The boasting about large budgets and improved VFX leading up to this made the effects even more laughable in this episode. This episode was NEARLY scary, the scene when we are introduced to the duplicate ‘Not Things’ is really unsettling, but is ruined by the long arms and jaw shit and the stupid giant Doctor and Donna. The dialogue scenes are great and work so well, but the ridiculous effects absolutely killed the vibe. This would have been a good opportunity for a multidoctor episode with a twist, with the not things exploring the Doctor and creating evil past incarnations - Matt Smith wants to come back as a villain ya know? I’m not a timeless child fan, and wasn’t bothered about Flux either, but it was great to see that those events carry serious emotional weight. 14 seems more affected by it than 13 did… better acting, maybe 🤷‍♂️

[@Doctor_What63]

@anonymousms2005 RTD implied he was thinking about bringing people back, but decided to stick to his guns and have an episode with just DT and CT - so why include that Newton shiz at the beginning?! Anyway…

[@CrankyGrandma]

Yeah, the “never very far from the surface” was weird because we never saw that with Ten.

[@Doctor_What63]

@@CrankyGrandma as long as RTD is happy pushing his agenda at the sake of good story telling and fan enjoyment then I’m pleased for him 🥰

[@Sco16161]

Personally I didn’t think any of these specials were that good. I commented on the trailer saying would’ve been better if they had maybe daleks in it as a big final but the specials were just kinda random and weird personally. Not bad but not as good as they could’ve been

[@joshuajoshua2732]

I know there was a number of complaints and negative reviews from fandom regarding The Isaac Newton character because it was played by an indian actor personally it doesn't bother me i'm only interested in the acting than the race of the actor and i thought he did a good job however the "mavity" thing is worrying.

[@HamzaReactz]

Race swapping him is just unnecessary. White guy so just get a white guy to play him :)

[@darkwolf7740]

​@@HamzaReactzThank you 👏 Imagine the uproar if they race swapped MLK or Rosa Parks.

[@Rik77]

I thought it was just a bit of fun, I mean it's a made up version of Isaac anyway in a 2 min gag scene. It would be different if it was a historical episode all about newton. Also its a hint at history being a bit messed around with that seems to be an ongoing thing, moving the doctor who universe away from resembling our own. And off screen i thought it was funny that the hate it got plays directly into the plot of The Giggle 😂

[@thetemporaljellybaby1040]

@@darkwolf7740 MLK and Rosa Parks being black is absolutely crucial to their stories. It would be a stretch to say the same applies to Isaac Newton being white. Nevertheless, I do see your point, but I don't think the comparison holds for that reason.

[@jennifermorris6848]

The Mavity thing is my most hated thing that continues.

[@deathswitch2404]

This concept has been done better before in the Midnight episode.. not exactly the same but it felt so much like a bad retelling of that story that i too got bored quickly

[@joshuajoshua2732]

It's "Doctor Who" it's suppose to be weird 😂 surely you know that by now we must be watching a different show then for me i didn't find this boring at all i was hooked from start to finish i honest to god thought Donna was going to die in this episode i do get however there are some odd bits that might be off-putting but you know nothing's perfect. I disagree on the timeless child i think RTD should ignore it like he did with the half-human thing from "The TV Movie" and left it stay with the Jodie Whittaker era and let the Doctor be what he is a Time Lord from Gallifrey travelling in a phone box i get that RTD wants to not erase any of his friend Chris Chibnall's work that's fine i understand that but it doesn't mean he should have to address or acknowledge it either because it is not a popular storyline and it's just going to switch most people off it's wrecking and undoing what other writers worked on from 60 years ago who are long since deceased including the Davros thing which is not RTD's creation it's Terry Nation's and he would have been furious had he been alive to see what RTD has done if i was the showrunner i would had gotten rid of this timeless child completely get rid of the soap opera and go back to what Dr. Who is a science fiction program. Last ever appearance of Wilfred Mott.

[@HamzaReactz]

Yes DW is weird, but there are times where it’s over the top and stupid, that’s how I feel about this one :)

[@dmorgs07]

Quirky one - fine for a mid season episode but a bit of a waste of a Special?

[@matthewpreston28]

Mavity

[@ishaandw]

Wow! That is a minority opinion.

[@SKIP-yj3xp]

The only interesting part of this episode was Wilf.

[@Doctor_What63]

Another reason this episode is kinda lame is that it was over hyped (even more than the previous episode) - there was very little shown of this ep in trailers and promotion so we expected something massive - instead we got a slow ass episode with a rushed conclusion (again), more out of place gender politics and horrific CGI

[@Joey15811]

Newton - hate the race swap of a real historical figure. Pointless scene just to set up a running gag which has outstayed already. Gravity cant be called Mavity otherwise new viewers get confused Outside of that theres a lack of characters for this one to bounce of. Just another doctor and donna version. Which is creepy but I need more characters really. Why heaven sent I dislike. Some creepy visuals though. Wilf scene is this episodes saving grace. Sadly the actor could only film this scene. He past away before filming the final one

[@itsalexney]

This was such a good episode though. 😞

[@HamzaReactz]

Nah

[@itsalexney]

@@HamzaReactz the giggle I hope will make up for it then. 🤘🏻

[@charg1nmalaz0r51]

it was a bit average really. it only seems good because its the best thing we have had in years lol

[@darkwolf7740]

​@@charg1nmalaz0r51Gotta be honest, that's a good point