DHA: On Further Thought…

[@argentonomad]

I admire your courage and integrity to admit that you don't have all the answers, that is what a good honest doctor should do.

[@martinjohnson4405]

One of the reasons I trust you and your work is because, as exemplified in this video, you are straight up and honest about what you know and what you don't know, what is backed by hard science and what is not. Thank-you for your work!

[@estherachermann]

What a brilliant, wise and charming man! "You can't do just ONE thing, everything is connected!"

[@greensmoothieparty]

FYI - Dr. Klaper has released a new video reversing his EPA/DHA supplementation decision for himself based on his low and declining omega-3 index over the past few years.

[@AtypicalPaul]

I truly appreciate your dedication to the truth and changing your mind when you recieve new scientific studies. I too just want the truth and don't have a preference of what it is, I simply want to know what is correct. :) Keep the videos coming Dr 😁

[@lynnruddell7852]

Thanks for being honest!

[@DoctorKlaper]

Always! ✌️❤️🌱

[@robertturner1308]

I’m on the Dr. Furhman side. I eat ground flax seeds daily but I also supplement with algae oil because I am somewhat concerned about the low conversion factor of Omega 3 fats especially for men. To me supplementing is the safer route as I don’t think the cancer risks are high as a whole food plant based vegan. Brain health is something I am a bit more concerned with so I take it as insurance. But honestly, what do I know? I’m not a doctor or an RD. Nor is there great research providing a consensus on this topic. I just figure many very long lived people eat lots of omega 3 rich foods (fish) and since I am a vegan and not getting as much of that essential fat I have gone higher on that side of supplementation and think it is likely the better bet. Small matter though as none of us is getting out of here alive. Try not to sweat the small stuff.

[@bethcampagna9764]

I admire you you for your dedication to seeking the truth to your satisfaction to feel comfortable before making a recommendation. But what I admire most is your ability to agree to disagree, at this time, and still remain a person of integrity without animosity or anger toward those who may not agree with you. Much respect 🙏

[@itsmeist]

I can't believe the reasonable down to earth and above all , the caring tone you Dr.Klaper has in discussing things. All the while not diminishing or insulting others to get his point across. I'm blown away. I wish I had subscribed for the onset. Thank you so much for all the hard work you and the other plant based Dr's. do every day.

[@Wearephuct-O]

Thirty nine years on a plants only diet without DHA supplements. I wonder where I've been getting it.

[@victorbravo8645]

You have on a plant diet with no dhs supplements

[@sowmindful1501]

Perhaps your microbes are doing a well enough job it would seem.

[@Pyriphlegeton]

Thank you for your intellectual honesty and commitment to the pursuit of truth.

[@StephenMarkTurner]

"Fools and fanatics are full of confidence". Thanks for having doubts. I still take a small amount, perhaps 1 or 2 times 250 mg per week. Obviously that will be under further review.

[@danielsousa5122]

I think that is perfect! Even if the adventis eat some fish. I dont think they eat it everyday. So taking omega 3 pill once a week or so is perfect. Its way more problematic to have to much Omega 6... thats why everyone worrying about omega 3..... if we eat some omega 3 sources and maybe a pill once a week of 250mg.. its perfect...

[@prudniksthumb3781]

Daniel Sousa it’s perfect? according to what I have a study that shows the human brain only needs 7.5 mg per week. This fat will oxidize in your body and go rancid and reside in your fatty tissues along with the iron overload we all suffer

[@yawnaisian]

I love this video! Thank you for the detailed and honest discussion of your thoughts, reasoning, concerns, and lacking research on this important topic! 🙏 I could listen to your musings all day! I wish there was a show just like this where you, Dr. Ornish, Dr. Fuhrman, Dr. Greger, Dr. Campbell, and others could get together and have such open and honest discussions about various nutritional topics, biochemistry, and research. It would be so informative and interesting! Even hearing your respectful disagreements would be so interesting and informative to nutrition readers who love you all! ✌💜

[@ilonabaier6042]

Totally agree. But rumour has is that Dr Greger has refrained from the invite. No idea if that was true but it may well be because what you have proposed is an such an obvious thing to do that I have to assume it has already been tabled. What do you think?

[@altugkarakurt]

I had been taking EPA+DHA tablets since I heard you say you were taking them in your interview with Simnett. Thanks for the update and helping us make more informed decisions

[@suedixon147]

I always love hearing you talk about a Plant Based diet with so much thought, integrity, empathy and knowledge, you’re my ‘go to’ with any questions or the need to learn more, thank you for all you do 🌱💚

[@JustJulia-qt9nh]

“Evolution of thought” is what makes a scientist reputable. Thanks for sharing your thoughts so clearly. I’ve also wondered about the necessity of consuming preformed DHA as so many humans don’t have access to DHA rich fish and seafood but don’t seem to suffer from DHA deficiency.

[@minifix]

This is the best content I've seen from dr.Klaper so far. Love to learn from a debate around the complexity of individual nutrients.

[@kidbullet]

I wish I could say thank you in person for being such a great person and truly caring about people's health. You are such a great doctor and such a great person! Thank you so much for your dedication on this topic! I'll wait for the end of the year to learn more. Happy that I just supplement algea supplement every now and then and never on a regular basis. You knowledge is huge and your kindness even greater! Thanks again

[@Soul.Is.Willing]

I love how humble he's being.

[@starhealth2118]

Thank you for your thoughts on the research Dr. Klaper!!!

[@louislyle2501]

You are a class act sir and i appreciate your discretion when debating issues. I have been following you and Dr. Furman for years. I love you both for your passion and inspiration towards science and education. Thank you very much for the information you provide and tasteful way it's presented. You are a joy to listen to.

[@youlearn3493]

So true!!!!!! Thank you :)))

[@tinahansen6377]

I appreciate your in depth explanation and rationale for your decision. I look forward to your updates as you further evaluate this topic.

[@Jewels64]

I’m looking forward to hearing about your 2021 new studies on DHA ?

[@karenchapman6126]

Such a humble man. Unique Doctor ♥️

[@Jeremy_936]

Or.... on an otherwise vegan diet, eat a small amount of clean fish each week, like sardines. They'll also give you B12, D3, K2, and other nutrients that are hard to find in a vegan diet. Dr. Fuhrman allows this in his nutritarian diet.

[@bdadams2661]

Thank you. Sound advice. I subscribed when I first heard you mention that you had started a channel. I believe we need to seek the wisdom of sound WFPB doctors like yourself and then pray about it to the source of all wisdom and then listen to His guidance. Also, one size fits not fit all since we all vary so much. I appreciate your support and friendship with Dr Fuhrman. His PBS video started my WFPB journey in 2013.

[@SittingKittyColorado]

So, at 51 years old, 3 1/2 years plant-based, have only had fish twice, maybe three times since about 1976 after a bad reaction to salmon, apparently I should be showing some signs of mental deficiency and/or other health concerns. I'm not. I've never supplemented with fish oil and didn't start flax until 2016. Based on a recent class I took with Janice Stanger, it is my understanding that flax is perfectly acceptable and most people can convert. One says take them, another says you don't need to. Guess I'll just keep doing what I'm doing.

[@nozroc7312]

Thanks for the video and I enjoy and respect what you share. It has been a year, could you update your results please?

[@VegieMum]

I really appreciate your respectful tone in this video.

[@jeris7138]

Dr. McDougall has been telling people for a long time how supplements can be dangerous and not recommended. He even had put a video out years ago about vitamins and supplements and how they might harm us

[@xcast1]

discussing "the supplements" as a bundle is too undifferentiated.

[@lizziedripping71]

He says the body will heal itself & compensate.

[@egalitarianvegan8806]

I had decided to go with foods for my DHA some months back. I have never seen a case that pills were better or safer than whole plant based foods. Foods are what we evolved with. I do take B12 but that is the only supplement I take, and that is because I know the natural sources of B12 have been eliminated from our environment. 26 years vegan. I suspect you are correct. The oldest vegans I know of still have sharp minds, and they don't take any DHA supplements

[@Vscustomprinting]

plenty of b12 in fermented oats and price... especially when you think about how the microbiome is what determines so much about b12 recycling.. theres alot more exposure than you think, just living in our own feces, the problem is when you eat shit foods and then the feces you are popping out in your environment are dangerous.. as true as it is that e are destroying the natural world, we really arent that removed from it still, aand there are plenty of foods one can eat to maximize b12 status.. ESPECIALLY sine a plant based diet is generally high in cobalt.

[@sl1173]

Dr Klaper, thank you very much for a very informative presentation. I was thinking of taking DHA supplement, but now I'll wait until better information is available. I'll follow your recommendations (grounded flax seeds and greens).

[@onnomo]

Dear dr. Klaper, Thank you for your wisdom and your honesty. I follow a lot of your work and appreciate what you do for humanity, the animals and our planet. 🙏🙏

[@miss.apprehended]

Seems more mention coming forth that various common isolated nutrient supplements are not effective or even downright dangerous. If liver dysfunction/damage could be perhaps inhibiting effective ALA>DHA conversion; wondering if sea greens should be consumed occasionally to obtain EPA/DHA? ..& if eating sea greens would not cause similar EPA buildup mentioned from supplements?

[@GoRodent]

Dr. Klapper..omg which part of Florida are you speaking of with the bad water? What town? I live in Florida!

[@belindaeileen]

Thank you for being honest and flowing with the available information.

[@Viv8ldi]

Memo: u cant just do one thing. Everything is connected.

[@Nutririana]

Thank you for your honesty on this difficult subject. I will keep an eye on this topic and will do my own research as well.

[@nessieness5433]

Thank you for your honesty and willingness to change your mind when new data show up.

[@kazaakas]

I cannot express how much I admire your honest and kind attitude. Really enjoyed the video.

[@phatvegan1691]

I share your videos as much as I can

[@chenchrissie1266]

wow! it's first time I ever heard so much about things we don't know. To be honest, that is the most convincing piece of message and advice I ever heard about supplements! thanks, Doc!

[@cedarrockcabin3633]

I sincerely appreciate this video! I am a firm believer in not taking any unnecessary vitamins and supplements. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. When I was a child I wanted to take Flintstones vitamins because all the other kids did. My mom refused telling me she had a friend whose son had a reaction because he was getting too much of something in the vitamin because his diet already provided it. I am very new to a WFPB diet but am doing a lot of research on nutrition so I can consume as much nutrients in my food rather than vitamins and supplements. Over the last 10 yrs I have tried to go vegetarian but did not do my homework on nutrition and ultimately fell off the vegetarian diet as I was not eating the correct nutrients nor was I supplementing my diet.

[@BethShearon]

Cheers. Pretty sure it was Dr Rick Dina suggesting there's more going on with ALA than just DHA and EPA & when we supplement those the body stops making the others. (?) I am WFPBNSOS with plenty of chia and flax. Yes I really would like to see lots of tests redone for only WFPB/vegan to see our proper "normal". Thank you Dr K 🍎🥦💗

[@Tony-qq2ky]

truly a great hearted MD and person

[@lyndamonchak4072]

Thank you so very much for your honesty and integrity on the subject of supplementation especially for people eating a whole food plant based vegan lifestyle! I was fortunate enough to both attend your presentation and ask you a question when you spoke in Palm Harbor Florida in January 2019! Thank you again for all you do as an advocate for eating a whole food plant based diet!

[@RecordableID]

Thank you for your advice, dr Klaper, and for seeking truth rather than stubbornly sticking to a belief :) I find adding flaxseed to my morning oatmeal the easiest and most consistent way of making sure I get that daily ALA.

[@mountainhiker4890]

Thank you, Dr Klaper ❤️. Quick question...do the chia seeds need to be ground as well to absorb the omega 3s? Your humility in admitting you have had to “jump horses” again because of your concerns and admitting don’t have all the answers at this time is admirable. Following the science is not always an easy or straight path with quick answers. Accurate testing of DHA levels is obviously problematic and I certainly hope some new testing is developed soon. Being open to and searching for new information is so important, and I appreciate your genuine concern and integrity so much. I look forward to hearing your updates in a few months 😊! Thanks again!

[@aliataya5125]

Dr Klaper on KZbin !!Now were talking real health business!subscribed and got my notification ON

[@pimark123]

Thank you so much for being open and constantly learning. That retardation of EPA due to preformed DHA is absolutely fascinating. This isolation of a fatty acid/nutrient/etc. reminds me of how isolated forms of B vitamins can apparently cause problems for people, which is why certain doctors recommend taking all the B vitamins together (even that, though, might be questionable except in certain cases).

[@altheadeconing3566]

Thank you for your honesty. What an inspiring human being.

[@dic2504]

Thank you for your honesty. Dr Fuhrman sells DHA supplements. Does this fact alter his recommendations? I certainly hope not.

[@ana-pi6ut]

Thank you, Dr. Klaper!

[@JamScottMusic]

The best video I’ve heard on this subject so far! Thank you Dr Klaper!

[@bastianelken7125]

"Hussein (2005) states, 'The fact that DHA can be formed from ALA, albeit at a very low rate, but cannot be increased by increased dietary ALA suggests that DHA concentrations, at least in circulating phospholipid pools, are regulated to satisfy a relatively low metabolic demand that can be satisfied by the relatively low levels observed in vegans with no dietary DHA intake and with erythrocyte DHA levels lower than EPA' (p.278)." -- Tim Radak, DrPH MPH RDN, from his website

[@brunobilandzija1823]

thank you dr. klaper! you are one of our guardian angels 🌈🍀🥭

[@galtidea]

Love your videos. Just a thought though...you might consider a better tripod to keep the scene from bouncing round and the quality is less than ideal....you're out of focus. The information you provide is amazing and interesting to watch, however, would be even better with improved video. Thanks.

[@jeannieappelhof1791]

I really appreciate your desire for the truth of the matter and your explanation of researchers inability to get to a trustworthy recommendation. Thank you so much.

[@alexandrawalters8953]

Evolution of thought is a good thing. We are presented with new information all the time, I would want my doctors and health experts to be open minded to always seeking the best science.

[@jeanneamato8278]

Love and respect this man!

[@sircorkysriley4904]

looks like until solid studies are done our best bet may be to stay with plant whole foods and in some cases blood work can help with some numbers on everything.

[@TexasFruitarian]

Massive respect for speaking out with grace and reason. Thank you.

[@SIMS6]

Thank you so much for the video! Much love and peace!

[@rido90s]

What about young children around 2 years old? Plenty of ALA but is that enough?

[@tatjanafumic8392]

I really admire Dr Klaper! Such a nice doctor and person, dedicated to his work

[@eisblume_official]

What do you think about a combination of DHA & EPA? That's what I'm taking.

[@BarryCoetzee]

Thanks for this awesome channel. With regards to the ground flax seed, does this not lower testosterone levels? Also, as a vegan is it recommended to supplement with creatine whilst doing lots of resistance training?

[@dnewman4952]

I am starting to question taking supplements. I currently take DHA, Vitamin D and B12. What are your thoughts on B12 and Vitamin D? Do you still recommend taking them to vegans? Thank you for your videos and amazing work, I highly respect your views and admire the calm informative nature in which you present your knowledge and opinions.

[@VeganChiefWarrior]

do the research yourself, this guy recommends Dr Fuhrmans multi vitamin and thinks its important to supplement k2 and is the only doctor who recommends methylcobalamin when the science doesnt really support that, he also has some crazy made up claims about human history that are just silly, average doctors are dangerous, but even vegan doctors are all crazy in there own way.. literally every one of them have there own crazyness going on whether its Dr Mcdougall, Dr Greger, Pam Popper, Dr Fuhrman, Dr Milton Mills.. all nutts.. its a hard time to be vegan.. but the past sounds like it was even worse, im a 5 year vegan for the animals but even i am REALLY questioning this diet lately, its getting pretty ridiculous

[@xcast1]

The supplements are very different - you can't simply question them all as a bundle. There are separate videos on this channel too - and for D you find at least texts / interviews with Dr. Klaper. No doctor - vegan or not - questions the need of a special reliable B12 source for vegans. If you do around with chlorella, unwashed self-grown vegetables or whatever, you should at least make regular blood tests. You need extra D when you don't get significant sun (sun beyond 35° altitude ) on significant portions of the skin - regularly for at least about 10min / day depending on you skin color. DHA: In addition to the things told in this video, those 250mg DHA+EPA supplements are questionable also, because the daily need by the brain is just about 3mg - which is likely produced easily (3x) from ALA in the body, when ALA intake is beyond 1.5 .. 2g RDI. Those old assertions of "low conversion rate" etc. are all based on false or mostly even non-existing assumptions regarding real body internal requirements. Conversion is regulated and deliberately low, because DHA is highly unsatured and dangerous due to peroxidation. Massive amounts impair the immune systems, cause problems by blood thining etc. in healthy people.

[@VeganChiefWarrior]

@monkeygirl000 i meant vegan doctor i dont care about non vegan doctors they are even worse but i discovered yesterday that Mcdougall recommends every other type than cyano, ive also researched vegan nutrition and im not as happy as you are about it, eating specific foods for specific nutrients eg seaweed for iodine and taking supplements which are dangerous and need monitoring with regular blood tests and worrying about deficiencies isnt my thing and i cant accept it, im just a hard ass with a soft heart, ive been vegan 5 years without researching nutrition and was fine but now ive actually done research for the last year i dont think being vegan is a good idea for people like me, i dont do needles and supplements, you have to be a bit of a geek to be a healthy vegan imo, i want to be a healthy vegan but i refuse the rules so i probably shouldnt be vegan, researching nutrition is the worst thing ive ever done to myself cause its got me messed up even more than drugs did, suicidal even, every vegan doctor has different recommendations its irresponsible of them and costing me my life, i hate everyone at this point, just want to live naturally and not worry about nutrition but i know too much and dont know how to fix so yea.. fck everyone, fck vegans.. fck meat eaters. fck fckn everybody im done

[@theartificialsociety3373]

Go to vegsource on youtube. He answers the questions very well. For b12, take only usrda, not high dose, it harms.

[@VeganChiefWarrior]

@@theartificialsociety3373 i cant.. those doses dont exist and im not taking a supplement every day anyway fuk that

[@REALITYFACTSFIRST]

To Dr Klapper Good to have you on the job - this is all a messy business - all because we do not have the science. 1. NOTE: There is a missing reference in the description section under the video - could you update the section with including a link to the reference (so I and others can have a look at that/those study/ies - Regarding the comment "I found evidence confirmed that taking DHA supplements increases cell permeability and it makes me wonder if that increases permeability to carcinogens." 2. Secondly - could you write all the Human body Omega 3 levels tests - that you know of and then highlight the ones that you think make the short list as being maybe telling us something I would like to take this same deliberate approach you spoke of in the latter part of the video - before and after testing and eat perfectly and see what the results are after 12 months - before and after - but for that I would need the tests - so could you write down what the tests are called - how it is spelt exactly - so I can tell my chosen doctor specifically. I heard and factored in your comments about the serious problems with the currently available tests - I would look to gather the information - before and after - on both the tests and then see whether there is anything they give.

[@MrsPlantinTexas]

I look forward to every one of your videos. Thank you for always sharing with us. Hugs from Texas. 🥬💗

[@robrangerguy]

Thanks for the video. Can you talk about H.pylori and antibiotics and stomach ulcers. H.pylori is something that can happen in anyone even if ones diet is clean and vegan. I have never heard any of the vegan doctors to talk about how to live with the h.pylori Bacteria.

[@merrycontrary3520]

I really appreciated this post. Very informative. Made me reflect seriously on things. Thank you.

[@LeanAndMean44]

I think Dementia has more with deep sleep to do, than with DHA. There is a TED series informing about sleep in several videos, and I will truly recommend them, also along with some TEDtalks about the topic.

[@justplants4me]

Thank you for your honesty and integrity. Much love and admiration.

[@jackiebenjamin642]

Once flax seeds are ground, they need to be refrigerated.

[@bozku8815]

Thank You very much for the Channel that You Gift us. With Your Talents, You do and did Brilliant Information, Content und Speeches. Thank You soo much, for Your Work !!

[@peterpoland01]

Thanks for your insights & honesty on this very controversial topic. Looking forward to your your end update!! 🙏💚🌱

[@phatvegan1691]

Thank you Thank you

[@viks57]

Hi Dr Kappler, I watched this video months ago and I wonder if you have made any progress finding answers. Thank you

[@pappy9473]

A lot to think about...

[@Em-jg3cp]

Thank you Dr Klaper!

[@Gritestl]

Thank you for this video.

[@cn-zo9zd]

Thank you for this honest video @Doctor Klaper. Does your opinion extend to children? I've been believing that giving an algae based DHA/EPA/DPA supplement to vegan children is a requirement for healthy development of the brain.

[@rebeccalake3664]

Thank you Dr Klaper

[@DoctorKlaper]

Most welcome!

[@rajibear77]

Isn’t there a test by a company called spectra cell that checks for nutrients in the actual cell?

[@greg6509]

Your thoughts on Sacha Inchi seeds known as starseed? I haven't heard any planned based doctors mention this but it's even higher in omega 3`s than flaxseed and they are delicious. I eat them as a snack and I now even make delicious starseed vegan parm replacing the cashews with starseeds in the recipe.

[@escapefromny2012]

Thank you for your honesty and always giving us the facts.

[@ingridstaessens2846]

Thank you very much Dokter.

[@jenny-leighparmley6094]

Thank-you for all that you do. I really trust the info you share and I know I can rely on it.

[@dinamariea61]

Thank you for the video. In regards to the flax, chia and hemp seed combo that you recommend, does the chia and hemp seed need to be ground too? I am aware the flax needs to be ground. Thank you!

[@Jerry-nb4kh]

Has Dr Klaper reported the results of his DHA study?

[@bevwiumplant-baseddoc4055]

🥑I agree - thanks Dr. Klaper - we don't know enough. 🍎Dr. Klaper: what are you thoughts on heated versus unheated fats?🥦I have always taught my clients to avoid HEATING fats. My studies taught me that heated fats become carcongenic and react differently in the body than non-heated fats. Heated fats are also bad for clogging arteries and other ailments/diseases. 🍓So, for the past 25 years I have avoided heating, for example, nuts, seeds, avos; (and oils if I use them). Heated fats and raw fats are certainly not equal. I add high "fat-containing" foods like tahini, nuts, seeds, and minimal oils, to my meal once I've cooked the rest of the meal. Bev Wium Plant-Based doc ☀️🍒⛱🥑Sunny South Africa

[@petersimon5874]

Much Respect Dr. klaper. Thank you for your hard work and Honesty. GOD BLESS.✝

[@stefv.s8326]

What when you eat almondbutter or peanutbutter is eating flax and chia enough?

[@vte4chg]

Hello Dr. Klaper, Thank you for this video. I have been very confused on this subject for quite awhile. Since it is now June of 2021 have you found any new research on DHA and have you begun to use it again? Thank you.

[@Kiwi-ui3uk]

Love this video. Thank you for your advice

[@MBosEs]

Good evening Dr klaper, I would like to ask you a question and I really hope you are willing to answer me. My husband and I are practically on the whole food plantbased way of eating, but my husband does eat half an egg a day. I don't, (i have a tendency of 200 colesterol) and he is worried about it, he says that taking a b12 supplement doesn't suffice my needs and that, not having and eggs,or a bit of yoghurt, can cause alzheimer disease. Can you please tell me if this is true? Thanks a lot and I love your videos.

[@anabolicamaranth7140]

It is one of the more expensive supplements, that much we can quantify.

[@falsul96]

Actually vegetology is pretty affordable

[@PhilippeOrlando]

Thanks so much for this video.

[@JoeJoe-wy7sk]

at what level does omega 6 sufficiently impose on ALA conversion? some days i eat a lot of non-ALA-containing nuts/seeds i know the general advice is to cut down on junky omega 6 oils, and i notice 1 tbsp sunflower oil is equal to 4.5 tbsp sunflower seeds in omega 6 content appx. in theory, if the conversion rate is 10%, then 2.5g ALA is enough for the common 250mg DHA recommended dose