Dodge Demon vs Shelby Super Snake Widebody // DRAG & ROLL RACE

[@RaptureSniping]

the sound of the supercharger on the demon will forever give me goosebumps

[@oxyrisin]

Yeah it does!

[@dawsontroymyers4928]

Amen

[@Adore_Xanz]

The demon gives me the chills every time I see or hear it’s name

[@lucasaltman7772]

@@SuperBadx0_ the demon does not have a pro charger it’s a top mount twin screw supercharger it is just designed in a way to make the supercharger very loud using induction not to mention it’s huge 2.8L

[@christiansantamaria7233]

@@SuperBadx0_ already making excuses 😂bruh hellcats and demons have superchargers you stupid asf

[@ProjectAjax]

Shelby would not be happy with the builds coming out of Shelby American nowadays.

[@JTM610]

why Edit: is there any adult in this comment section that is not a total moron and can answer to me normally

[@Welcometofacsistube]

Exactly why? Pherd was just as much junk then as it is now

[@ItsDemiMondaine]

Carroll Shelby is a known fraudster

[@freedomfirst5420]

Yeah, that Shelby is a poor example, it shouldn't even have the Shelby name on it.

[@tyler9703]

@@ItsDemiMondaine Let's not start baseless rumours like what plagues Hennessey nowadays.

[@falcongamer58]

James: I'll wear a helmet because i don't want to die Mustang: **dies instead**

[@beautifulday1665]

Literally bro..

[@nicholassmith7048]

Should have put the helmet on the Mustang.

[@NauticalDisaster]

It made the ultimate sacrifice

[@Shivris]

It’s a Ford feature to keep crowds safe.

[@falcongamer58]

@@Shivris and the engine too, misfiring is bad

[@redscorpion9411]

What I love about the Dodge Challenger is that it still looks like a classic old school American Muscle car, even the newest Demon!

[@Sub-Zero-C6-ZO6]

That is the point. Dodge is not trying to make stripped down sports cars or pony cars out of the Charger, Challenger and Durango. The Super Car Dodge made is the Viper 🐍

[@cuteshadow]

Thats probably why Ford said they wont make a GT500 convertible. It appears like twisting itself around the Driveshaft is not an aspired ability.

[@hatch450sx3]

Funny because vmp performance has been making absolute monster mustangs and I know for a fact this body style can handle north of 1000hp. People twin turbo as well as root supercharge the new mustang gets and make rediculous drag times and street times. There was something really wrong with this car or shotty workmanship

[@relaxitsme_alex9104]

@@hatch450sx3 i mean yeah but as much as I love convertibles no matter how much structurally reinforcement that's in one, its still not structurally sound. And even if you manage to get it to that level, it weighs a bunch. Im not sure about the curb weight of the 2 but maybe it'll have a better chance if it was a regular hardtop.

[@dabosstbell]

Bro that 717ftlb torque vs 630ftlb is hard to beat ima ford man that gt500 a beat him

[@Ws6Ms]

@@hatch450sx3 s550 chassis is weak as shit

[@hatch450sx3]

@@Ws6Ms it's not. See them running nines all day long with vmp superchargers at atco NJ

[@timmypstyle]

I feel like if Carroll Shelby was still alive, that type of quality issue wouldn't have been overlooked.

[@watchthiswithrob]

We don't know what the issue was.

[@SirKankus]

@@watchthiswithrob carrol Shelby made everything perfect and if it wasn't he fixed it

[@watchthiswithrob]

@@SirKankus We don't know what the issue was with the Mustang in the video.

[@SirKankus]

@@watchthiswithrob they said what it was they said it's a known issue with the super snake where they remove a brace to fit the supercharger and the torque from the launch twists the chassis and it breaks Carroll Shelby would've put another brace in cause he made all his cars as perfect as he could

[@watchthiswithrob]

@@SirKankus That wasn't why it was going into limp mode. They just happened to look down and saw the crack.

[@lightspiritblix1423]

"These two cars represent two different things. That is the ultimate version of a car that has no grip off the line. This is the ultimate version of a car that spins off and hits crowds." This is why I'm subscribed, the ever-present pervasive snark.

[@unfairsanic5089]

It spins off and hits crowds because the handling is numb on a mustang

[@VegasRT500]

And both cars are quicker than anything Chevy or foreign automakers build for the money.

[@A500-g6g]

@@VegasRT500 the zr1 is faster same price and much faster on track than both of them. And comes with a 7 speed manual. Funnily enough even with less power than both of them I think it's done a quicker quarter mile time in independent testing.

[@Havinitbtw]

@@A500-g6g GTH😂

[@A500-g6g]

@@Havinitbtw triggered why

[@_kashytwin_5275]

People gotta give dodge credit for how big/heavy them cars be moving

[@Holmesson]

Before you give all the credit to Dodge, give some to Mercedes-Benz first. Without them, we wouldn't have modern Chargers & Challengers... Dodge certainly went crazy with them, though!

[@essarrbee7107]

@@Holmesson Mercedes abandoned Chrysler years ago. Other than the chassis of a few cars that Chrysler makes right now, there is nothing left from Mercedes. Hemi motors have always been nothing but Dodge.

[@Holmesson]

@@essarrbee7107 Way to completely miss the point. The fact of the matter is that the re-launch of the Charger, 300, and Challenger would have never happened if it had not been for Mercedes. If you know the history of these cars, you know exactly what I'm talking about. If you don't, then that's your problem.

[@closethatdoor5555]

@@Holmessonexplain more bro

[@andrewstanciu6028]

the demon is full carbon fiber, and the rest of the dodges are slow sooo

[@barbiesandlol3018]

161 k +tax for something that breaks down after intended purpose (they didn't use racing wheels ,fuel or any other additional modifications) . Sounds like there's a frame damage at this point. Very, very bad news for Shelby. With this video as a documentation buyback is guaranteed.

[@Ovenman940]

Perhaps that's why the owner was so generous...

[@Sinoops]

@@Ovenman940 I would bet the owner is ecstatic that they got all this on camera!

[@hugoa9818]

161k is insane. Way better cars out their for cheaper that would smoke that broken car

[@famousparrot3912]

@@Asiansxsymbol if you’re talking about the older 911 turbo then yeah you can get it for like 160k but if you’re talking about the new one there’s no way you can get one for 160k, but yea someone would rather have an nsx,r8 or 911 turbo then that crap

[@BradWilson1969]

@@famousparrot3912 I'd rather have an EcoBoost Mustang than that crap. Seriously. I mean, "who needs structural integrity when we can have a supercharger?"

[@paytoncobb1548]

This just convinces me that the people designing demons and hellcats are snorting cocaine at the same time to make something so amazing and powerful

[@protx_]

Just for it to have dozens of electrical issues lol.

[@Manny301]

@@protx_ since when has dodge have electrical issues that’s not even a common problem idk where you’re getting this information from

[@Nicktheguy24]

@@protx_ one guy I talked to actually did lol his u connect had electrical problems and he traded it for a bmw

[@slackergames4244]

@Proxt So you talked to one person and every single car has electric issues?

[@Supremeyaree]

@@slackergames4244 he traded for a car with electrical problems 😂😂😂 but uconnect has been bad lately it’s like 700 bucks to fix

[@andychristensen2947]

Love these two. They are not at all afraid to call out busted stuff, or if they think something just isn't up to par.

[@carondobbins6135]

That's what I really like about them. Glad to know these things about the Shelby

[@aa134368]

For real. God how embarrassing for Shelby. Get it together, geeeez

[@pollumG]

It's because they're not American lol.

[@Prolicker123]

This is a dodge commercial, these two jackasses are on Dodge’s payroll!

[@chrisward3161]

@@carondobbins6135 Shelby used to be very good until shelby himself died then ford executives started skipping steps and cutting corners until this shit happened now shelby's will literally torque themselves in half because no one gave enough of a shit to refit a brace

[@EGARides-87]

Huge difference from a car put together with big power after the factory and a factory built high hp vehicle... As much as I wanted the mustang to win, the reliability and consistency of the power just isnt there with an aftermarket system. The entire Demon is built to do what it does, from the chassis up

[@Kazutopia808]

The comparison is suspect. The wrench showing up and the Shelby going limp every other race should not be happening. Something is wrong with that tune.

[@keb8907]

I had the exact same though. This is a tune issue, even with less torque the Shelly has more power and weighs less. even if it was going to get beat, it shouldn’t get walked like that.

[@bradhardy2629]

@@keb8907 Chrysler always understates their true horsepower rating . They did the same thing with the 426 hemi it would smoke any ford back in 1968 hurst hemi dart & barracuda 's dominated even the Cobra 427

[@josmarortega2079]

😂😂😂 Ford guys just making excuses ! To why their “ dream “ car gets beat . Dodge build them right the first time ;)

[@anthonysupplee858]

Built right? I’ve not seen an SRT high HP mopar make 60k miles without blowing

[@glenharston6436]

It really doesn't get any better than this. Waking up on a great Sunday morning with new Throttle House content.

[@SirBuildAlot]

Same 😂🤘🏾

[@mdinaamm]

yeah man

[@charlesblizz2590]

Yeaaaah brother

[@FHAN90]

Agree after all the boring content from the straight pipes

[@thepassionofthegoose5472]

Like Motorweek back in the day.

[@Chris0-58]

"I'm gonna wear a helmet because I don't wanna die." James: **war flashbacks**

[@straightbusta2609]

Mustang joke lmao

[@steven_miles5545]

Mustang joke lmao

[@arturo3525]

Mustang meets flashback really 😂

[@neelparmar6690]

*donk*

[@armandsmith1027]

Somebody should tell him having a helmet on during 130 mile an hour convertible car flip over would be a absolute waste of time.

[@bodyoftruth7766]

Carroll Shelby is literally rolling over in his spectacular grave right now. So sad to see his legacy crumble with new "managment" scamming people and making money off his name.

[@GoatDirt]

Exactly right. He would have known exactly how to counter-torque the chassis and prevent body twist. It would never have just been about the engine

[@jalenad11]

@@GoatDirt 2010 GT500 would like to have a word with you..

[@ucduste6372]

And twice the price!! 😳

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@floki1664 Likely a FCA/Dodge fan.

[@bodielancaster7952]

Even though I love the new shelbys I completely agree

[@astro54541]

“Run what you Brung”…… We all know the Rules. Shelby dropped the ball on this one 😢

[@zerotolerance3560]

This is a slap on the face for Shelby.

[@JayA-ir3it]

@@floki1664 bro Jesus Christ😂 can u go any harder? Relax. You’re acting like this mustang got obliterated by 5 seconds when it lost by one second at the most. No car is perfect, no brand is perfect, and this isn’t a slap in the face to fans in anyway Bc they didn’t design this thing😂. Stop feeling so entitled about a car you don’t have.

[@GoInGcRz]

@@floki1664 Ah yes, that's why Dodges are well known money pits unless they are the performance cars. Plagued with reliability issues and cheap parts. Also, the Dodge Demon was created to be a complete DRAG car, yet barely beat the Mustang Shelby. Sit down bruh, your bias is showing LOL

[@PhantomBulletGames]

@@GoInGcRz Let's not forget the Dodge Demon got walked by a C8 base model. And the GT500 destroys the Dodge Demon as well

[@coltoncaskey5781]

@@floki1664 every challenger/charger below the hellcat trim is a laughing stock. Calm down brand loyalist.

[@willkaufman8208]

@@floki1664 a 4 cylinder or v6 doesn’t matter if it’s pushing good power. (Yes I notice there is now the trx but for released the v6 in 2016)

[@lilnicky131]

I love how Thomas might actually be the worlds leading authority on launching Dodge Demons on a non prepped surface and he meticulously explains how he's going to launch it before hand, but he will still get some key board warriors who drive a Prius that will tell him in the comments that he's not doing a good job launching it lmao.

[@Viper3048]

Hey... don't come at us Prius owners like that. We're not all bad! 😂

[@xivix6710]

@@Viper3048 😂😂😂

[@zsavage1820]

@@Viper3048 Isn't the Prius a woman's car??? that's what everyone says here in the Motor City... or gay...

[@DarthChewie]

@@zsavage1820 Motor City sounds super progressive and not at all bigoted.

[@zsavage1820]

@@DarthChewie lmao you need to change your name to Karen...

[@deo9654]

“So much torque, the chassis twisted off the line” - Dom Toretto

[@Jay-iq1mf]

Lmao I was thinking the same thing

[@theboothy91]

The power of family

[@Sin187]

Exactly what I was thinking when I heard what happened, lol! 😂😂😂

[@iameatingursnack]

Lololl god I hate those films

[@DangerDavefpv]

Must not have a legit tube frame for that fake 350 supercharger

[@GabriellCoruja]

2013 Super Snake will always be my favourite and the 2013 GT500 still my dream car.

[@andrewm6716]

Convertible Shelby sounds scary, James really does need a helmet

[@t4cot4ctical]

Yeah....I thought he was being silly until the car started cracking in half lol

[@345toLife]

I'm a die hard Mopar guy, and am glad to see the Demon take the W. Having said that, I can respect anything bad ass and MAAAAN is that Shelby a bad ass machine! We should all be so lucky to drive that thing! This is what the American car market needs, more of the HP wars!

[@knullvoidking6176]

That Shelby is not a bad ass machine it’s a overpriced track car it’s sad to be a mustang fan because Ford won’t give us a straight line mustang instead they give us overpriced track cars that why mopar is number 1 they listen and give fans what they want

[@knullvoidking6176]

@Mr.Joetatoehead cobra jet ain’t street legal it be better if Ford made a mustang for street /drag

[@stone65037]

@@knullvoidking6176 LMAO you so lame.

[@bryanrussell6679]

@@knullvoidking6176 What I saw looked pretty bad ass. They're both modified cars. I'm a Ford guy, but I can acknowledge an honest beating. The 5.0 is at a mechanical disadvantage. It's always going to produce less torque when they're trying to keep the hp comparable.

[@philp7884]

It was broken..

[@legendkiller1290]

james definitely had the helmet on because he knows how a mustang handles

[@giovannicourtessantos1897]

Yep😂😂😂

[@VermillionRacing]

The mustangs of old at least, the new ones handle a lot better. The dodges are taking the crowd killer place of the mustang

[@MLProductions.1]

@@VermillionRacing yeah unfortunately. Lol. New mustangs def handle better then the challys. And I own a challenger

[@mrspaghetti9692]

😂😂

[@CoyoteFTW]

@@MLProductions.1 - mustang have always handled better than the challenger by a country mile

[@coloradomallcrawlers]

I’m an off-roader, but this made me want a demon. That is a good looking vehicle!

[@ajackx0516]

make an offroad demon lol

[@00jmt]

@@ajackx0516our neighbors have a demon jeep

[@dasuberpanda]

@@ajackx0516 sounds straight deadly you son of a bitch, im in

[@bodes_26]

The Shelby may have 800+hp but it goes like it has 500hp

[@comedyclipsfy]

It has 560 at most

[@heiner71]

@@comedyclipsfy Probably no more than 543

[@fps_studios3471]

It has 800+ wym

[@joeblack3693]

No way that thing has 800+hp

[@hatch450sx3]

@@joeblack3693 it might have dynod at that but I've seen many 800 plus new body mustangs and they don't act like that. At all. And before anyone thinks I'm a Ford fan boy I drive a 6gen Camaro SS.

[@danielgumprecht]

Shelby: loses race Dodge: wheeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@edwinalbino5633]

🤣

[@kellylarsin4195]

😂😂😂

[@jasonyoung4890]

I'm a Ford fan but there will always be someone out there claiming fake ass numbers to get sales claiming they can beat dodge 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@lavarclemmons5625]

LOL I believe it was mechanical problems with the Super Snake

[@bb82bird]

To the owner of the cars. You sir, are an absolute legend! Thank you for making this video possible!!

[@glennnichols4220]

What's with everyone calling everyone SIR nowadays? Why can't people simply call someone by their name?

[@gabrieljohnson5077]

@@glennnichols4220 it’s a sign of respect? Literally never heard anyone complain about this. Ever.

[@glennnichols4220]

@@gabrieljohnson5077 LITERALLY now you have. And if you think the NEW go to word that everyone uses and has come force, ehhh I would say for me in the last 3 years I hear it everywhere now and everyone uses it, maybe where I live is behind the times......IS A SIGN of respect you certainly have proven your young age. It isn't a sign of anything more than a cliche term just like the word AMAZING is used to descirbe a roll of toilet paper now. Go look up the definition of it. It's a fucking FAD term and you're not smart enough to figure out thay you have been brainwashed to use it all the time

[@glennnichols4220]

@@gabrieljohnson5077 An Infiniti as your pictute says all I need to knwo that I actually paid any attention to it. No way you are over 26. 🤣

[@glennnichols4220]

@Thecarkid 11 KID says it all

[@02hockeystick19]

This just goes to show how crazy the Demon really is in a straight line and a lot of time people forget that that is EXACTLY what that car was built to do. I mean this is even without the skinny front tires and the race gas tune, so it is down 32 horsepower from where it could be and up in weight. Still yet outrunning a very premiumly priced Mustang that I am almost certain is lighter than the Demon. And this Demon is kitted out with features (Sunroof, all of the seats, etc) so it is even extra heavy. This is rather amazing in my opinion.

[@MarylandMarshmallow]

No one forgetting that this is what it was made to do. If anything that’s all it can do. And the Shelby in this vid needs some TLC before it can race anyone or anything.

[@GoodOlRoll]

Y'know, Dodge doesn't have a reputation for reliability, but if they were able to run a Demon 5000 times consecutively on the strip without a single issue, then that's how you know Dodge put extra special care into the Demon.

[@kronk9418]

@@MarylandMarshmallow Sounds like copium to me :)

[@Pierre_pleasures_cutz]

7:31 “stay straight …. The car … everyone else do what you want “ made me laugh 😆

[@ry_hellcat1562]

@Called To Christ firstly this doesnt have anything to do with the comment you replied to Secondly, wtf dude, just accept it if someone feels like they're supposed to have a different gender.

[@jayreed632]

@UCIFcTLkguyLiegVIk5zsnJw oh honey, I'll pray for you.

[@thatgirleden]

@Called To Christ people were still like this 10 years ago, you just didn't hear about it. Trans women are women, trans men are men, non binary people are valid, and transphobia is stupid

[@robertharing7031]

Hell I thought it was a reference to drug usage lol

[@beatfromjetsetradio8239]

@Called To Christ You make no claim to the words of peace when you use them to hate. You give Christians a worse name than they already have. Also, Christianity is now a minority religion among adults in the United States.

[@keithkamps77]

I'd love to find out what happened to the Shelby's chassis, that did not look good. Good thing James wore his helmet.

[@isla2202]

power ripping it apart

[@jamesroberts6044]

Convertible....

[@CarlosGutierrez-qw6pr]

@@jamesroberts6044 why would they even offer a convertible

[@Sahadi420]

@@jamesroberts6044 with the strut tower brace missing as well.....

[@jamesroberts6044]

I think a hardtop S.S would have been a tighter race. Verts are flimsy and heavy.

[@scatpackphotography1855]

It’s a good thing that that’s not a prepped surface. The extra torque load would’ve really put too much stress on the body.

[@unscripted7553]

Oof, I can imagine the Mustang in a prepped drag strip.. it would probably snap and just break into 2 due to the torque going through 😂

[@senorpepper3405]

@@unscripted7553 yeah. i don't get it. this ain't the only one in the country and people do race these. you would of thought ford/shelby would of done their homework.

[@youngboy_mk3937]

the ultimate car that has no grip of the line and the ultimate car that spins out in front of crowds😂😂😂

[@alexx6012]

watching you guys evolve over the year was spectacular, the production quality became AMAZING

[@cvasy2010]

That’s right, I can’t understand why they don’t have at least 10mil subscribers

[@charlesscaggs8227]

Awe.. here’s some tissue, you got a little poop on your nose 😜

[@lthoang101]

Too much chitta chatta nonsense. Annoying as hell

[@CruiseControl1]

Damn the Shelby is literally tearing itself apart, I've never seen that happen before. Fun race though.

[@muhammadmurtala1989]

That's because it's a soft top convertible with too much power and the body is just too weak to handle

[@CruiseControl1]

@@muhammadmurtala1989 I understand all that but holy crap it's crazy to see it happen.

[@muhammadmurtala1989]

@@CruiseControl1 yeah and it's funny at the same time😅

[@t4cot4ctical]

Literally tearing itself apart, just to lose to a Dodge....Carrol would not be proud

[@muhammadmurtala1989]

@@t4cot4ctical 🤣🤣 sick burn

[@INCMILWAUKEE]

Would’ve loved to see the S4 vs the Demon just as a point of reference of how quick the Demon is.

[@orj77]

well from 0-120/140kmh the audi for sure would be winning afterwards it’d get walked

[@epicswirl]

Probably better than a mustang

[@orj77]

@@epicswirl well audi’s “S” models let alone RS models been known to walk mustangs🤪

[@dqlatnwia4534]

Try the rs5 sportback

[@kenny9935]

I mean well all know the answer to that. Audis Quattro system launches are on another level. The launch would have been so drastically different between the two the Audi would win by a nose hair

[@mohammadal-abbasi7247]

James: “Just the car stay straight. Everyone else do whatever you want” 🤣🤣🤣

[@ffianog598]

The sound of the supercharger on demon is just 🔥🔥🔥☠️

[@blaxican_]

Tell that to demonology 🔥👊

[@brickmechs3920]

Until now where the sound is just speakers

[@lucamaximo2459]

scares even the turbo guys lmaao

[@behdadbanan]

800hp from factory is waaaaaaay better than any high hp tunes and builds. Just reliability itself …

[@Welcometofacsistube]

👏👏👏

[@a.wheeler7731]

Builds take time to get dialed in, but I wouldnt trade my whippled 18 gt for anything

[@Cammed345]

@@a.wheeler7731 until it blow up

[@a.wheeler7731]

@@Cammed345 Even if I bought a 800 hp factory car I would still mod it to have more power lol..

[@FusionBoost2.0]

@@Cammed345 Found the village idiot

[@automotiveaffairsshorts]

Appreciate the honesty, rather than covering up faults! You guys are trustworthy and the real deal 👏

[@ramdomy_boi9049]

The demon is peak American muscle. It shall not be outdone

[@generalrommel5666]

Sadly it’s getting discontinued. They’re gonna make disgusting electric cars instead

[@bulletmelter5158]

@@generalrommel5666 🤮

[@rickitysplitz7035]

It gets outdone by the 2022 model Shelby

[@MARS11111-k]

The level of disrespect the mustang has faced, from the demon to the s4 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@angelgjr1999]

That’s why S550s suck, unless you modify the frame with braces. Why on earth would Shelby make a convertible with 800 hp with no braces!? Garbage car.

[@zhila5958]

@@angelgjr1999 agreed. S550 stangs are horrible

[@tybailey9428]

@@zhila5958 lol you couldn't be more wrong. Go to can I be frank on KZbin it's all street racing. Hardly nothing beats s550 FBO mustangs hellcats get gapped by fbo. Mustangs

[@CoyoteFTW]

@@zhila5958 - you don’t know what you’re talking about. The GT350 and GT500 are the best handling cars on the market

[@jnieto490]

The owner of these two fine machines is an absolute Chad thanks for sharing with us 👌

[@karalyzel3177]

One of the great things about Dodge, these cars can run the track again and again and again without breaking down.

[@kriptic22]

Lol wtf?? You want how many videos or the trans or rear breaking at the line.

[@hutchinson54]

@@kriptic22 LMAOROTF!! Yeah ok.

[@davidgee6452]

They're infamous for the engine not making it to your 3rd payment 🤣🤣🤣

[@rashidryan]

@@davidgee6452 not really ? Lol I have a 2016 charger hellcat 52k miles walk I have done is oil change no isssues and I drive aggressive dude 🤣 so no

[@davidgee6452]

@@rashidryan ur lucky bro, I worked for midad for 3 years so I seen all of them come in with piston and lifter problems and now I'm an auto collision technician I have an intimate understanding of cars in a way that most people dont. I'm not some kid reading magazines or looking at these thing on the internet u feel me? I personally like the dodges they look clean AF they fast and I love how they sound I wish I could buy one Maybe wen they fix the issues I'll get one but as of now I wouldn't risk my money on it

[@YaMomsAHo23]

My dream is to have enough money to be able to own both a Demon and a Shelby.

[@Txology]

Shitty dream…

[@Ficon]

The owner should take the Mustang to the dyno and then take it back to $helby and get his money back. There is no way the Mustang is making the advertised power.

[@Ayane13b]

I mean, for how much weight was added for the convertible... It's probably not too far off. Also, you're losing power on the car trying to twist itself. Albeit, probably only a small amount, but it'd still exists.

[@Sinoops]

​@@Ayane13b If the Shelby is making the power it claims than it should beat the Demon 10/10 times. It has a similar fast transmissions except a much better power to weight ratio.

[@dor1tomcswagger69]

@@Sinoops longer gearing where the demon has shorter would make a huge difference in shorter races

[@Ayane13b]

@@Sinoops lol?? The NORMAL Shelby GT500 weighs the exact same as a Dodge demon. Now, put more body panels on it, make it wider, and put a goddamn convertible in it?! There's literally no chance it weighs less than the demon. It'd be at LEAST a couple hundred pounds heavier, but it obviously needs more bracing to make the car not commit suicide lol.

[@kesando84]

Technically this is nothing more than a modded mustang GT convertible. I would never buy this over a real Shelby

[@mustafatariq3252]

This is the only place where ive seen someone launch demon without spinning so much

[@kurtburns4600]

Mad props to the Shelby Super Snake but Dodge hit a freaking hone run with the Demon. What an absolute marvel of a machine. Very reminiscent of the late 60s early 70s when they were unbeatable. Part of why I'm a diehard Mopar guy.

[@spencerwhitmore1896]

They aren't unbeatable now and they weren't then.

[@mir_2613]

@@spencerwhitmore1896 dodge was most definitely killing the game then and still are now considering being the only true muscle car

[@cg3399]

Tf are you talking about the auto 5.0’s pull on auto scatpacks stock for stock and i used to walk scats in a stock bmw m340i

[@mir_2613]

@@cg3399 so a 331 whp car that weights 4300 lbs is supposed to smoke a 3700 lb 360 whp car? I’m picking my 340 up in a few weeks but off the line definitely yeah but in roll with driver mod L’s are being handed out. Like I said Mopars are killing as THE ONLY TRUE MUSCLE CAR. Keeping up with sport luxury and pony cars with the weight of a class 1 truck. I don’t get why everyone hates on dodge and compares their fully modded cars to a stock house that doesn’t actually make 475- 707 “WHP”. You clowns go off BHP. Bmw admitted themselves that they underrate their cars. Depending on the year M340 you have you definitely pushed 338-400 whp bone stock on a 3800 lb car

[@cg3399]

@@mir_2613 you picking up a $60,000 m340 playing high scool football?? dead..anywayyy wtf are you talking abt in those hp and weight comparisons?? who said that?? im not bashing dodge..but what do you mean TRUE muscle car?? TRUE muscle cars stopped in the 70's.. just bc dodge is still heavy af makes them a true muscle car?? lmao if 2 good drivers do a 40-140 roll both autos that mustang outruns a scat 9/10 times and whos comparing modded cars? i said stock for stock dummy. and scats definitely dont make 475 wheel stock ur dumb as hell if you think that bc theres plenty of proof thats not true just like 700hp hellcats dyno around 660. and yes obviously bmw underrates but the true M340i wasnt produced until 2019 and theyve all been rated 380hp but dyno close to 400wheel and i outran a guy in my town with a challenger scat pack 40-120 bc i weigh about 500 pds less..fyi they werent M cars before 2019 it was just 340's with 320 hp

[@frankbalazs8816]

THE MUSTANG IS TWICE THE PRICE TOO!!! DODGE MAKES AWESOME CARS!!!❤

[@Capnobvious]

You have to love what dodge was able to do in house! Hell cats and demons arent sent off to independent performace shops. They roll off the assembly line ready to shred tires! You have to appreciate that dodge def set the bar and made everyone go all out considering we may seeing the final days of big bad american v8's.

[@facemyermicah]

Still loses to the cobra jet ha

[@RTzIsGreat]

@@facemyermicah drag pack challenger slaps that car around in the 1/4 mile

[@theshield1613]

Thanks to Fiat they invested alot of money on the hellcat and demon engines.

[@CoyoteFTW]

@@RTzIsGreat - the Cobra Jet slaps that overweight dragpak same way I’d slap you around with those XXSmall shirts. Look at NHRA Factory stock Cobra Jet was spanking those drag paks and copos

[@MaddJakd]

@@theshield1613 Quite certain that was Jeep and Ram income primarily, while Fiat was literally trying to get people actually interested in Fiats...... and failing miserably lol

[@Antenox]

THEY DIDN’T PUT EXTRA BRACING? In a convertible? With 400 extra horsepower? That’s a grade school level oversight.

[@kbcarroll]

Carroll Shelby died in 2012. That's why.

[@MaddJakd]

If the man was still with us, this would not have happened.

[@fobbitoperator3620]

[shakes skull unit negatively, in structural engineer]

[@MaddJakd]

@@frenchonion4595 I recall watching a vid where a dude had a Shelby F-150. Liked it for the power but even he pointed out how the interior was just a ford. Untouched. I felt the same about an earlier Raptor I test drove (among other issues)

[@wilsondetailing4577]

that demon sounds mental, i absolutely love it!

[@noahyates636]

As a Mopar guy/ ford hater, this makes me smile.

[@shanedoink]

And THIS is the ultimate version of a car that spins off and hits crowds. 😂🤣

[@Ghost-yo5tg]

That’s so funny I forgot to laugh

[@E90PLUG]

So funny 😐 I forgot to laugh to

[@RaveThePhantom6]

Yeah I forgot to laugh at an old and irrelevant meme that just shows mustangs are popular that unfortunately stupid people that don't know how to handle a muscle car can drive.

[@Ghost-yo5tg]

@@RaveThePhantom6 congratufuckinglations

[@Ghost-yo5tg]

@@E90PLUG congratufuckinglations

[@Fasteddiebreakshearts]

Loving the great Sunday Morning content 🤘🏽🤘🏽 PS no way that Shelby is making 820 HP better off building a base Mustang GT from scratch 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Genesiscoupe3000]

@Lil Naz X 🅥 It was a Rick roll.......

[@fps_studios3471]

Nah it definitely has 800 but with a better tune I think it could beat it

[@DirtySerb]

Racer X has a 2020 Mustang GT, he put a Hellion twin turbo kit on it and it's making over 800hp on the dyno. This guy should sell that overpriced Shelby and boost a GT. He could build it with forged internals and it would still be cheaper then that SS.

[@dacollecta2000]

@@DirtySerb the Shelby is a modified Mustang GT. Modified. It's just the price they charge is insane. Better off getting a Ford Built GT500 from the factory.

[@angelgjr1999]

“Pre made” modded cars are usually crappy but I’ve never seen this level of incompetence. Why on earth would Shelby make a convertible with 800 hp with no braces!? Garbage car.

[@Apoplectic_Spock]

That S4 flew off the line. Good lord!

[@Amerinican]

"Mustang stay straight, everyone else do what you want"....😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣classic.

[@ashermartin4945]

This is a perfect example of torque.

[@B58_G20]

“We want this to be like a normal stoplight race” **lowers tire pressure and does burnout**

[@bandyfball]

Well, I mean, he didn't say an UNPREPARED normal stoplight race, perhaps this is how he does it?

[@joefather2463]

doing a burnout is a very challenger owner thing to do so the tire pressure part was the only thing not normal

[@js59695]

actually if youre in anything above an rt most mopar owners will lower the pressures way down and if theyre at a stop light theres a good chance they'll do a burnout if they're gonna race

[@trevagraham1605]

Deadly Donague You mean you don't do that everyday on the way to work?

[@Eric_SRT]

I would love to see a 5.0 vs 6.4 Scatpack Go head to head but throttle house style! Y’all’s reviews are so in depth and so hilarious! 😂

[@ceooflovingthehomies9294]

Same! I’d love to see the GT or GT PP1 vs a scat pack vs an SS. Basically go for the attainable and dailiable versions of each muscle car (cause we know the 1LE package on an SS will clap everything but it also is not something you want on a daily)

[@renggorenzzo9610]

5.0 is faster from a Scatpack owner.

[@carculturenation2166]

check out racer x he always compares the 2. he was a b8g time dodge guy now turned to a tt mustang gt

[@ceooflovingthehomies9294]

@@renggorenzzo9610 I believe it, but I wanna see a non 1LE SS thrown in!

[@ceooflovingthehomies9294]

Cause I’ve seen a 1LE vs a PP2 with throttle house (and of course the 1LE kills the PP2) but I’d like to see an SS vs A PP1 or a normal GT.

[@othyvitswamba1111]

This car: stay straight but everyone's else do whatever you want...😂😂😂

[@northamptongiants]

The fact that the Snake went into “limp” mode tells me something wasn’t quite right with the car the whole time. Just a guess though

[@loufernando7617]

The mustang should've won

[@joshmejia4105]

@@loufernando7617 Y'all in denial

[@johnvance1866]

Yea it should have won

[@loufernando7617]

@@joshmejia4105 naw man I've just seen it before to many times

[@knullvoidking6176]

@@loufernando7617 It will never beat it because it’s a overpriced track car it’s sad to be a mustang fan these days Ford won’t give us a straight line mustang that’s why mopar number 1 they listen and give what the fans want

[@dxr7415]

Away from the speed, look at the stability and comfort of the challenger compared to the mustang

[@Firstdown1e]

Cause ones a boat and the other is a car

[@DodgeandGMkiIIingFurdDaiIy]

@@Firstdown1e ones fast the other is a Ford Rustang

[@damarcusgreer8802]

@@Firstdown1e nah cause one is just ass period and ur making excuses for the shitstang and there is the dodge demon that u call a boat cause it floats right past you cause that's how slow the shitstang is lmao 🥱😤👎🏾💪🏾

[@KingTheGermanShepherd]

@@damarcusgreer8802 Both cars are nice. not sure why you got offended.

[@Revenge5.56]

Straight line definitely hellcat, but on a road course the mustang would take the flag. Basically both have its strong suits... keyboard snowflakes your turn to input your extensive knowledge and experience 😁

[@Amogh-Dongre]

2:04 " this is the ultimate version of the car that veers of and hits the crowd" 😂😂😂😂

[@KRMG99]

Spins off*

[@markv78]

Priceless

[@RaveThePhantom6]

One of the most dumbest car jokes of all time. It's a meme that just reeks of stupidity and unoriginality. This meme just shows how popular the mustang really is as any car if driven stupidly will crash no shocker there. The mustang was the one back in 2005 to bring back classic designs and with it succes made other brands like dodge to bring back the challenger and charger. Overall the mustang pave the way to bring back muscle cars to its former glory. All I got to say is you can hate mustangs all you want if that's your opinion but if you laugh at this joke it's just shows that your not a true car guy that love cars no matter what brand.

[@demcanes01]

Mopar Gang vs everybody baby !!!

[@adubtv252]

“Let’s try a roll race” “Is your Shelby registry gonna help you there?” 😂

[@Bost2301]

Yes. We will sell you a overly expensive, modified Mustang GT. Did we make it right for the price... you'll find out. (No refunds.)

[@hatch450sx3]

This is why you contact vmp they will have your mustangs spitting flames and and run insane numbers with out breaking.

[@peter8333]

Please add dragtimes. Would be nice to see how long the cars need to do the quarter mile.

[@beautifulday1665]

Yeah 👍👍

[@dominikw8820]

I hope so...👍

[@abderrahmanelbakkali190]

I mean, they don't want to be constantly compared with Carwow's times and being called stuff

[@mustangraf]

they race 1/8 the super snake was coming back both races.

[@activat0rz]

Official quarter mile time from Dodge on the Demon: 9.65 seconds. Real life drag race on Carwow 11.3 seconds. It's impossible to launch sensibly. To achieve the Dodge claimed time you'd probably have to have ideal circumstances like a sticky drag strip, slick tyres, rocket fuel, tailwind and who knows what else

[@adamkandil]

This channel deserves over 20 million subscribers

[@LilRick96]

" stay straight..... The car stay straight. Everyone else.. Do what you want" 😂😂😂 no God James please no don't say that

[@axela9282]

So people can’t do what they want?

[@TamiyaPhilippW]

Why not? He is absolutely right, I mean as long as you stay within the legal limits 🤗

[@christophermcleary8091]

In my service department on a Sunday morning in a dodge dealership watching this. It's a great morning

[@nic0gass]

No one can do the supercharger whine quite like dodge can. Truly music to all car guys’ ears

[@charliehurley8475]

SVT Terminator enters the chat lol

[@sergg369]

Svt did it first

[@charliehurley8475]

@@corruptonu2934 facts lol

[@justinanderson181]

I’m taking the termi whine over any new dodge whine

[@jrvbamafan1]

Modded termis still scare demons....lol

[@SRTJLBRedeye]

DEMON all day... twice on Sunday!

[@David25512]

Totally a Dodge fanboy, but I had my doubts. Figured it would've been close, or closer, but not a clear break away win. And to add insult to injury, the Shelby is destroying itself? Good lord, I almost feel cheated out of a race, however it was still entertaining as hell

[@User2452-i7n]

Same I thought it was gonna be very close from a dig and the Shelby from a roll

[@AnthonyEvelyn]

Im a GM guy but loves Mopars. Expected the Shelby to win this race tbh because its lighter. But the power in the Shelby is twisting the chassis and body cant hold up.

[@User2452-i7n]

@@AnthonyEvelyn you’re a very mixed American manufacturer guy, you’re a GM guy but you love mopars and you expected the Shelby to win

[@darkNovaskar]

@@AnthonyEvelyn what are chassis? And where are they located?

[@a.ortega4505]

Yeah and i hate how everyone calls it a boat but some how a mustang is a feather ???

[@hitman6191]

This was Awsome, Thanks guys and crew. Also special thanks to the guy who lent the cars, you are a true car enthusiast

[@aldenunion]

No Ego either,allowing others to handle his collection.

[@Louisiana_Levitator06]

This will forever be my favorite video done by ThrottleHouse.

[@flacc623]

Hell yeah

[@imortaliz]

Transmissions has come a long way and it shows. The way 7-10 speed auto transmissions stays in the powerband is amazing

[@imortaliz]

@Tunnel Zone Agreed, i have one in my 5 series :)

[@Bluejayount1]

My favorite part of these "Beat Dodge" vids is that the cars compete or are just faster... and are twice the price

[@John-yh7mr]

People will pay 50,000 more dollars for 2 more MPH sadly.

[@Bluejayount1]

@@John-yh7mr I won't knock anybody for buying a car that they want. Meant that as more of a look at how affordable Dodge is

[@passacorona5923]

No one is finding a demon for 85k

[@Bluejayount1]

@@passacorona5923 Msrp is 100. That Shelby was 160. While not technically "double" I still feel it fits

[@semird615]

Your comment gave me a headache

[@saimumbinmasum1278]

it is almost impossible to launch a dodge perfectly but still thomas did a great job

[@reloadingdontshoot1]

Demonology would beg to differ

[@basstheory9384]

@@reloadingdontshoot1 He hasn't heard of demonology!!!

[@kriptic22]

Pretty sure demonology just got raped by a mustang.... want the link fan boys?

[@saimumbinmasum1278]

@@kriptic22 may be you don't know but mustang is just a pony car not American muscle car

[@destruxandexploze2552]

“But now it has Dodge Demon fighting numbers” Besides the price 😂

[@mrnitro3735]

mustang guys punching the air

[@Chris-oj5ce]

“Car thats spins off and hits crowds” facts it got me😂😂😂😂

[@Nativeson1452]

Coming from a Mustang driver, that Demon is easily one of my unobtainable dream cars 🤤

[@donny9859]

what does you driving a mustang have to do with anything? Thats like me saying "Coming from a Civic driver, that Shelby is easily one of my unobtainable dream cars"

[@Nativeson1452]

@@donny9859 Because the video is about a Challenger vs a Mustang. Cmon Donny, use some context clues here buddy.

[@donny9859]

@@Nativeson1452 doesnt matter lol. just cause you drive it doesnt mean you like it, plus shelbys and mustangs aren't the same car.

[@queenjacksuited6620]

Fuck a dodge. We First On Race Day

[@Dfeeds145]

@@donny9859 uh, what? The super snake is literally just a mustang GT modified by shelby america. It absolutely is the same car, or would you say anyone who throws a blower on their Mustang GT no longer has a Mustang?

[@EricFortuneJr.]

A convertible Super Snake? Who thought that would’ve been a good idea. Every other Shelby convertible has always been detuned for a reason.

[@sibat82eg]

From one James to another put stage 1 on that S4 it's only $900(us) and really wakes the car up!! I promise you won't be disappointed.

[@alv4475]

When just grabbed and rattled around the dashboard mounted pod I knew that quality is no longer a consideration for Shelby anymore, sad.

[@2003frontier4x4]

Mustang had the weight advantage at the start, which slowly mattered less as overall power comes into play. Nice race! The Snake is a track beast as well though!

[@mikesalvetti7989]

We can't tell buddy

[@crimsonstang]

I'm guessing the Mustang loses. For one, it's a convertible. They have horrible chassis dynamics and when you apply more power to it, it just gets worse.

[@alelokox88]

Well, funny you said that...

[@gabehodos-rich2372]

Uhhhhhhhh maybe you should watch the rest of the video?

[@crimsonstang]

@@gabehodos-rich2372 it was a pre video guess. That's why it was a "guess"

[@gabehodos-rich2372]

@@crimsonstang I know I was just joking cause you guessed spot.

[@Anonymous594]

“Stay straight…at least the car stay straight. Everyone else, so what you want.” 🤣

[@bellaxxi4116]

Dodge Demon: “Let’s go again!” Mustang: “My trim is damaged and it’s time to go in limp mode”

[@เlเ-b4o]

😂😂😂

[@Justin_GFM]

Should've just stuck to the GT500 from Ford for this comparison

[@unfairsanic5089]

Yup, i mean the gt500 beat the hellcat with no sweat

[@angelcartagena2375]

@@unfairsanic5089 …and at half the price.

[@angelcartagena2375]

Of that super snake, not the Dodge.

[@The3751FAN]

@@unfairsanic5089 hellcat and a demon are two different animals

[@Ride-Drive]

Thanks for the content! Btw, judging from the preview - 404 traction not found

[@khalidwleed7345]

404 horsepower not found

[@letsgo-reacts]

helmet man is a scared, anxious, nervous driver!

[@เlเ-b4o]

Thats how the car got dent from the uncomfortable helmet 😀

[@edwardpratt5172]

@10:37 Look at the Mustang damage. The torque is literally twisting the frame apart. Shelby removed a cross brace in order to fit the supercharger.

[@carculturenation2166]

the s550 chassis is limited on how much power you can make with a convertible. hence why there is no gt500 convertible. Thats why im guessing as usual shelby is inflating numbers. without a cage to make it more ridid its gonma twist. strut tower braces more effect handlimg amd some seteuos Have them. Check out can i be frank. an other videos. 5.0 Coyote Mustangs and f150s with just bolt ons suspension tire and e85 tune tune beat hellcats all day literally. Gt500s beat redeys and demons tire for tire and stock a gt500 can get around a track faster than or within a second of cars like Ferrari f8 tributo Lamborghini huracan evo and porsche gt3rs. Thats insane considering it weighs as much as a hellcat which both are only 350lbs lighter than a awd f150 sport. So the chassis suspension amd power of the s550 is an amazing platform but people usually domt upgrade convertibles. 30k you can buy a mustang gt or f150. The stock sealed coyote can make up to 1200whp with just boost and fuel and 60k including upgrades and car/truck and people have ran 7sec (Mustang) 8sec(f150) in the 1/4 mile or just a reliable 950whp and you have easy 8s in amustang gt and 9s in the f150. gt500 starts at $70k and the dct transmission is only good from a roll or on roadcourse because thats what the car was meant for. but 10k of tires exhaust e85 tune and pulley they run 9.5 and faster in tbe 1/4. thats the same as a demon but it can handle and thats actually cheaper than a demon. then ported supercharger or upgraded supercharger factory motor and factory transmission has gotten gt500s down to 8.3 in the 1/4. Think about it Dodge demon drag car 100k with over 100k of mods with only the chassis left from factory Built aftermarket crate motor, gm turbo500 trans aftermarket turbos or supercharger every removable panel and piece replaced with cabon fiber and nitrous and they only run mid 8s in the 1/4. thats $200+ thousand dollars to run 1 sec faster than its factory claimed 9.6. But yet a 30k mustang gt or f150 with a supercharger or turbo added can run those times. go big and build it like you have to build hellcat demon and LS and people are going 6s and as fast as 5s in the 1/4 with factory ford block. This is why a lot of chevy and dodge guys have left and started building fords or pulling their engines and putting coyotes. Fastest charger is a coyote powered charger and fastest demon in low 8s is a demon engine in a s197 mustang. Fastest H pattern domestic stick car is a s197 boss mustang with factory block that Joel steele started by driving on the streets and he was first domestic stick car in the 6s he shifted that coyote to 6.81 in the 1/4. when people get scared that mustangs lose control its usually because the onlder mustangs had a solid rear live axle. With old suspension it made it sketchy. Now these mustang run with and beat supercars on a track so it shows its driver error in a modern mustang crashing because they are top end spors cars for a fraction of the money. But then you get idiots that pay for the Hennessy, Roush, Saleen shelby etc ppl pay 100k plus for these stickers and boosted hp numbers when anyone else installing them parts can make the real 1000whp ot more. You are paying stupid money when instead of this supercharged coyote which you can buy the mustang gt put that supercharger on yourself for 12k shelby charges 70 to90k for stickers stitching in the seat and the supercharger and a few other goodies. and waaayyyy more for the widebody. 200k for a mustang gt hell you can get a gt500 with palm beach dynos cx1100 package. 1100whp tons of cabon fiber low 9s high 8s in the 1/4 still handles and its a 50k package for your 70 to 90k gt500. Thats a no brainer. Half that price call aldoweld or midnight performance and go 7s in a Mustang gt or 8s in a f150. But throttle house will show a shelby but not a aldoweld, midnight performance or a cx1100gt500. Cuz those are the best in the game and nothinh they show ever again tesla bugattis etc will not even beat their f150s

[@thevenom4634]

@@carculturenation2166 homie just wrote a whole essay 🤣🤣

[@mediocreman2]

Yeah that's what they said in the video. Good job?

[@allenpritchett2549]

Great info

[@momododobird]

@@thevenom4634 reviewer and someone with knowledge and experience

[@air-headedaviator1805]

Why’s it feel like this is the first time I ever saw a Demon win a street drag race

[@thugnificent863]

car enthusiasts love to crap on it

[@lobopoderososdl3076]

It's not all that bad on the streets carwow managed 11.3 with the demon. Not so bad for a car that lacks traction

[@justinanderson181]

Because it’s all show no go unless you’re on a strip. Grip is non existent in all of these races on throttle house because they don’t have prepped surfaces 90 percent of the time.

[@trenton.tchannel1810]

@@justinanderson181 seeing how the demon was made for the drag strip you can’t knock it. I mean running 9s stock is no slouch especially for a vehicle that’s barely over 100k

[@Blu_Ice_392]

Maybe you've got both contacts in one eye

[@moustachio334]

The Mustang ECU was definitely pulling ignition timing. I suspect the engine is prone to overheating and pre-detonation. Unlike the Dodge, the “Shelby” wasn’t engineered from the ground up to reliably make 800+hp.

[@jayshmoney795]

Vary true statement

[@Iconhulk]

Someone needs a drugtest..

[@sd24734]

It is the shitty Whipple tune they use... I had a Whipple 2018 S550 with the 10R80 transmission and on the Whipple stage 2 tune, I put under 700 whp got a tune from a different tuner, and after dialing it in the same setup made 820 whp on the same dyno and it never would go into limp mode it would also go sideways at 70 mph if you weren't careful. and it wasn't just the peak power it made much more power all throughout the rev range... It never stopped making power it hit peak HP at the rev limiter which was 8000 at that time.

[@PeterDrDeak]

I just actually love your videos! But it would have been still nice to post the 1/4 mile times the cars did.

[@gene978]

I loved the Grin on Thomas’s Face as he passed the Shelby on the first pass.

[@eriknephrongfr8847]

This is why I never want to hear some tuner’s claims. It’s just noise until you run it.

[@naythanvaladez1467]

7:22 “stay straight…” “the car stay straight” 😂 I like how he had to clarify

[@hereaslions2765]

I am very surprised by this, and not disappointed at all