Testing a 517HP Fendt and a Horsch Joker!

[@bobtanner4068]

We just unloaded a new Fendt 933 tonight for a customer who will be using it as a planter tractor. It is equipped with Various grip tire air system. The 900 series is similar to the 8000 John Deere . The warranty is not matched by anyone.

[@TBlanktim]

Anyone would be jealous of this set up. Great job of showcasing the Joker and the seed bed it preps. Machinery has come a very long way. The 1050 is like the Sci-Fi version of what is normally run. Great Video.

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

Thanks!! It was really fun to run

[@kevinirwin2036]

Just watched a video where Mike Mitchell put triples on the rear of his 517, what a beast. Great video.

[@TOIMwet]

1050

[@PRRGG1]

I'm not a farmer BUT the results reminded me when I went from a small crappy 2-cycle garden tiller to a nice Troy built tiller. Beautiful looking soil!

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

That sounds like a good analogy!

[@canvids1]

I so enjoy your videos and how you present stuff. As a grown up I didn't work the farm only and a young buck But working on the railway for 30 years you see lots of stuff. The Fendt is a monster and they do build great tractors for sure. The Horsch Joker is one great working tillage machine from what you are showing.

[@wry569]

Great video. Fun watching that big Fendt pull the Joker like a toy.

[@Jaxon-iu6vb]

We have a Joker RT270. Seems like the bearings are constantly going out on it and they are super expensive. The packer bearings also go a couple times a year and they take some work to change. We also broke one of the roller baskets in half when it hit a big rock, that was going to be crazy expensive to replace so we had a machine shop fix it. A lot of these problems could be caused by our very rocky soil. We pull it with 330hp and in some conditions, the tractor is slightly underpowered. Also its a boat anchor in the mud.

[@jimpolk]

Love that Fendt tractor.

[@noyopacific]

Carl's observations and explanation of the differences in the soil results left by different cultivators reminded me of listening to a radiologist explaining some diagnostic images: "You can see here where the nodules (clods) are less prominent and the circulation (tillage) is finer and more even?" Oh yeah sure, ah okay Doc Carl. Honestly, it all sort of just looks like dirt to me. I'm not sure whether you really can read the tea leaves and are giving us the straight dope here or if maybe you're pulling our legs. Either way thanks for another fine episode! Good luck with a smooth and easy planting season!

[@familyvlogs9105]

I think Fendt is the best tractor on the market. Just not enough dealers

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

It was pretty nice!

[@matthewdockter2424]

The drone shots do show a difference in level. Interesting how different.

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

I wish it showed up better on the up close shots

[@boerieerasmus2242]

I used Horsch tillage tools and air drills before, they where absolutely great. Very user-friendly and easy to work on. Build quality is great, the machines are built to last! I really liked the Horsch Tiger with discs and chisel tines. Keep up the good work, I reg enjoy your videos.

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

Hey bud thanks for sharing your experience! It seemed like a really well built tool to me.

[@brianpayne8931]

I'd be pretty nervous if I were Deere and Case IH. Looks like they're ahead of the game and it sounds like their warranty and relationship with customers are pretty phenomenal. Only downside is that it's all made overseas.

[@armchairgeneral7557]

Pretty sure fendt sin American are made in Minnesota. Fendt HQ is in Germany, but AGCO is based in America and they manufacture a lot of stuff here.

[@bobtanner4068]

US owned company

[@Matt___B]

@@armchairgeneral7557 any fendt other than the 1100MT (maybe 900MT too, but dont quote me on that) are manufactured in markoberdorf, germany

[@brianpayne8931]

The tracked tractors are made in Jackson, Minnesota. I would have thought that the Challenger FWA were made here but I recently seen a plate on the tractor that said Made In Germany.

[@bobtanner4068]

@@brianpayne8931 only the 1000 series are produced on the Fendt line

[@twistedsteelDK]

I have a Joker RT370 and it’s great. We were running a 40’ Salford and upgraded to the Joker. I use it hooked to a Case IH 9390 with no power issues. Running in black dirt and some soils with clay and sand. Makes an amazing Canola seed bed. Had a couple bearings go on the disc cheapest I found the hub was $185.00 and the disc was $42.00 Canadian. Best performance was right 10mph to much faster it starts bouncing to much slower it doesn’t throw or bust the as well. Those spring packers do not like mud but does good in a dried up grassy mud hole. Breaks up old pasture land with a couple passes nicely to.

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

Thanks for the lending me your experience. I think it’s a really good rig!

[@gregthomas7277]

How is the fendt ??...I thinking best tractor on the market beside the price.....

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

It is an incredible tractor. The price actually is pretty competitive for the horsepower and features.

[@williamgreen4757]

the wheels weighted the spring rollers, you could weight your landall the get the pounds per square as the joker.

[@staceyroberts9561]

I like that hole setup doing a great job

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

Agreed !!!

[@jeffcasey504]

What a bunch of Fun! Thanks Carl!

[@davepayne9162]

farmer up the road has 6 of the big Fendt

[@redclover51]

Ran a Joker for a friend a couple seasons back. Speed is the key. Did take some getting used to on the turns but an impressive job.

[@BIGHUMANCR]

Horsch recommended speed is 10-11 mph. You can run faster but you need to watch out for the harmonic bounce, at higher speeds. That will cause ringing underneath. Carl showed that the speed he was running was perfect for his conditions. I personally, would rather slow it down by a little bit and do a better job.

[@coyroberts8356]

Thanks Carl!😊

[@nathandinsmore623]

Flagged some corn that came up today. Nice kit.

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

That’s great! I’ll be doing that soon!

[@adrianklaver113]

Right of way is a function size and velocity, the bigger and faster you are the more right of way you have:)

[@duanebolen8359]

What do you think of the transmission it only takes the horsepower that it needs to pull the equipment I think that’s pretty neat

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

Yeah it is pretty nice. It doesn’t burn much fuel if it isn’t working hard.

[@lifeonamanitobafarm6485]

Hi Carl, I'm learning from your video. That is great you experience other equipment and see the results.

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

Thanks that’s great! 👏👍

[@michealdecker1438]

Yes actually i seen one working from right in a tractor cab they do a good job

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

They sure do! It’s pretty hard to see it through the dust though!

[@johnkranias3458]

Horsch has/is producing a lot of good gear don't own any yet but a neighbour has and offered a loan. Fendts are good gear too with the MAN engines. Hope your planting is trouble free.

[@kevinklingner3098]

One can never have too much horse power in a tractor. You can quickly find oneself picking some extra ground one way or another and wish you it available or have a short corridor to work the extra hp makes it possible to do it faster with more economical operation figures.

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

Exactly! Especially with that type of a transmission. It only burns as much fuel as the power demand requires.

[@joelbovaird5152]

It would have been interesting to do half a field with the joker and half with the landall, and see if the better seed bed would result in any yield difference.

[@BIGHUMANCR]

We tried last year but the test fields were all effected by the Derecho. Hopefully, Carl did half and half. We have other customers that have demo this that are doing fields across or next to each other.

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

Good news! That’s exactly what we did on two separate fields! We split it and right down the middle.

[@BIGHUMANCR]

@@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206 I would have washed my truck if I’d known that it was going to be on film. lol. Please keep us posted on the results of your test.

[@jeff2146]

its fun to see the american market opening up to european ag brands

[@OOpSjm]

Pull them screaming and kicking into the future.

[@tmcbrideproductions]

So y’all gonna get a joker if it clearly dies a better job, or what kind of muscle does it take to run the rig? Does the JD have the power if you do pick it up for the season?

[@goosehunt11]

Sounds like a “harrowing” experience at that speed.

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

Haha that’s my kind of humor!! 👍👍

[@robertpautsch5093]

How much horsepower is needed to pull that Horst Joker? Seems like it needs a huge tractor to work

[@BIGHUMANCR]

Recommend 15 hp per foot

[@billwhitman1529]

Without a doubt, the better prepared the seedbed, the better germination, yield, and equates to more income. The better test would have been to put the Joker on the John Deere. I doubt that a Fendt is in the future after putting the dollars in the new to you Deere.

[@BIGHUMANCR]

Carl thank you for an awesome video.

[@davidperrin4856]

Awesome video

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

Thanks!

[@duanebolen8359]

It’s a tractor 🚜 of the Future

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

It’s a real nice rig

[@jimenglehart8284]

It seems as though the tillage equipment is setting up a man made hard pan at 2-3” depth. Can the roots penetrate that hard pan in a drier year?

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

This is why we try not to til deeper than we are going to plant. The root can penetrate really hard soil but it doesn’t like to cross density changes.

[@ronniewalker2881]

enjoyed the field work good video man

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

Thanks a lot!

[@dpmautomotive1758]

Man I hate it when they come and steal your toys

[@aaronthesing8751]

How come you have to clean sweep control boxes in your planter tractor?

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

You will see in the next video tomorrow or the next day 👍👍

[@jeffweber6770]

I believe that you have two totally different machines and each do a different job

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

While yes they are quite different they are both used for secondary tillage ahead of planting.

[@johntolbert4566]

think the one on the fendet does a better job

[@jimkruszka3817]

you should talk to Mark Brock at sheepishly me on KZbin ,pretty sure they run a joker

[@jimpinger6206]

Is this the same setup that was on Laura Farms KZbin out of Nebraska?

[@BIGHUMANCR]

Almost she had the Fendt 900 series and a Horsch 21ft joker.

[@BIGHUMANCR]

Just looked again they were running the 939. It has the MAN 9.0 l enigma producing right around 385 hp.

[@robertpautsch5093]

Cannot comment on that tillage equipment other than it sure raises a lot of dust. Conservation wise is that dust a bad thing? I use a spade, hoe and a rake but if you want to bring any tillage equipment (either is fine) to my little garden in the suburbs, you are welcome. I will buy lunch. Say, I am seeing the price of corn rising. Now let's pray for good growing weather.

[@jacobjochum3486]

I now mark brock has one

[@markoconnor1291]

Does anybody plough fields anymore

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

It’s pretty rare.

[@plowboy6636]

Check with Marc Brock- husband of Sandi brock( sheepishly me- you tube) They have major farm in Canada and use the joker. I am sure he would be happy to answer any questions. Enjoy your videos.

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

Hey good tip! I just saw that video the other day.

[@tomharrington1393]

👍👍

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

👍

[@tomlockard5653]

Mark Brock, of Sandi the sheepishly me u tube fame has a Joker, he has had it for a few years, not sure if you follow them but might have some insight on issues etc

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

Thanks I just watched his video !

[@darpub]

I watch another channel that they use a joker.

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

Was it Laura farms?

[@brianjacobsen8365]

Heck of pc of equipment! The Joker did a much better job

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

Yeah I was really surprised!

[@sorinmarianavasiloaie7623]

Lemken Rubin încearcă

[@nomerc3608]

Do you watch Ice Age Farmer? I highly recommend you go watch his last two videos about the War on Food!

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

I haven’t seen him yet.

[@stevenpeeling1749]

I think way better

[@paulhudson8321]

It is an impressive tractor but Mike Mitchell found it’s power inadequate for his operation pulling large planters with grain carts compared to the largest articulated units. This year they put it on a smaller planter and put rear triples on it. I’d love to operate one.

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

It is a really nice machine to operate!

[@nolanschott9360]

Jokes are for sure the new wave if you ask me. We demoed one against a case speed disk and a Mach til. Joke did a better job, and you can run a joke in fall and spring!

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

I had been wondering about the Mach til.

[@keithrobinson1331]

What the fuel difference between the JD and the Fint per hr? Yea you need led lights on the steps when you have to climb up a 10 ‘ ladder to get in a tractor 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@BIGHUMANCR]

In my opinion it’s easier than climbing into a 9000 series Deere or a CaseIH Steiger tractor. On average the Fendt 1050 has been burning 16-17 gallons of fuel per hour pulling the Horsch Joker RT32.

[@bobtanner4068]

Guaranteed The Fendt will be several gallons / hr less, and John Deere does not have a CVT or IVT transmission above 360 hp Fendt goes to 670 hp

[@johanness8484]

@@bobtanner4068 there are quite a few Fendts running close to me, they are very comfortable Tractors for sure! But you will have lots of trouble with Transmissions and Sensor issues... Especially the 7series. Fuel consumption is equal on the Tractors with the same power so that's not an argument

[@bobtanner4068]

@@johanness8484 In all of the years we have sold Fendts we have only had 2 transmissions apart. one was on a new 1000 series and Agco sent the engineers from Germany to check the old transmission and watched the installation of the new one. The original went back to Germany for examination and testing.

[@johanness8484]

@@bobtanner4068 i can only tell what i know, and that is that i know at least 2 724 that needed new transmissions and 3 with head gasket issues..All had under or a bit over 2000 hours.... Guess they didn't treat them very well... Maybe always in second "gear" in tje field...

[@kirklothert3435]

The tractor is the wrong color green. 😂😂 John Deere green is better

[@dodgebrothersfarmandranch9206]

I mostly agree