Does Gabbie Hanna Need Help? Or Is She Tricking Us?

[@blakelay]

I think both "Gabbie Hannah is an abusive troll" and "Gabbie Hannah need help" can both be true simultaneously and that's why navigating humans and their emotions are so hard.

[@KuncanDastner]

Exactly! "Two things can be true" is something I live by

[@gobgoerrsarah]

This comment reminds me of the boov movie when he learns “sad mad” is a thing

[@spinestealer8129]

This is 100% true. The human psyche is a huge gray area rather than black and white. It’s very complicated and doesn’t always have a definitive answer. One thing I know for sure is that the abusive people are always the ones who need the most help. People aren’t born cruel monsters, they’re turned into them by their life experiences and the people who’ve influenced them.

[@worstusernameintheworld9871]

@@spinestealer8129 I'm glad to find others who also see people in this sort of light, oftentimes people just assume that I'm "trying to be too nice" or that I'm "defending" the ab*ser if I mention this sort of thing to them. In which case, they aren't exactly right because I know that I don't support their actions, but just because I think their actions make them an a*s doesn't mean that I won't acknowledge the bad things or ignorant environment that causes them to become/get normalized to these sort of things. :// People really need to know that choices and thinking is nOT dichotomous (like you said), and even if some people are too far deep to be "saved" doesn't mean that I can't feel bad that there are things that cause people to be this way, and lastly there is a difference between acknowledging the reasons behind someone's actions vs. using it as a full on excuse to justify a bad act. (also sorry for the long reply lmao, i just wished more people learned to see things this way)

[@kells4315]

I agree, but also, isn't this just general about trolling? I always saw trolling as something people do when they can't get the positive attention they need, they go for negative attention. Also it puts them in control of their social issues "Oh I /wanted/ you to hate me, my plan worked perfectly!" Sad either way

[@marisnic9898]

I think she THINKS its acting. But its real. I think its really how she feels and thinks and is breakingdown but she convinced herself she is just an amazing actor

[@KuncanDastner]

That's entirely possible! It's a little scary to think about

[@Ollie_nel]

I definitely feel that this is the case. I personally had a period in my life where I was convinced I was just good enough at faking my mental health symptoms to be hospitalized, but looking back, I was just trying to feel any level of control in a situation where I felt like I had none.

[@pinkelf8471]

@@Ollie_nel I really hope you're in a better place right now. Stay safe internet stranger

[@pillbugm8914]

This take makes the most sense imo

[@roxanne_]

That would make a really great movie imo

[@ashley-m]

i love how duncan never clowns on people just for the fun of it and that’s why I respect his opinion so much on situations like this

[@KuncanDastner]

I always try my best to do that, thank you so much

[@spinestealer8129]

Yeah he seems like a very open-minded person who’s just trying to understand others 👍👍

[@recordingjeans2407]

Yesss!!! I’ve grown sick of the clowning from other popular commentary channel. I am aware that it isn’t the style of their channel to be more serious, but I just don’t like it after awhile. Kuncan is very refreshing!

[@iris6922]

”It feels good to be in control” is exactly what someone would say when they feel like they have no control at all. Like she’s trying to convince herself she could stop the hate if she wanted to.

[@skrittle555]

"Like she’s trying to convince herself she could stop the hate if she wanted to." that part that part!! it's nicer to believe that people hate a fake version of you than the real you.

[@brittneyyyann]

It feels like she’s grasping at straws.

[@Cerise4697]

Came here to say this.

[@kiraanne3524]

When she does snap, no ones gonna believed her. And I’m scared for that day. I really wish her the best

[@KuncanDastner]

I'm right there with you, if she keeps this up it'll be harder for people to actually believe if she really does need help

[@kiraanne3524]

@@KuncanDastner the boy who cried wolf.

[@EsotericTherapy]

@@KuncanDastner It certainly seems like she needs some sort of help and that's really not for y'all to judge.

[@annalupton9284]

I think the fact that gabbie feels the need to tell people she was trolling means she wasn't really trolling. When you're trolling, you don't have to tell people, it should be obvious and it should be funny.

[@KuncanDastner]

That's a good point! That's what makes me question if this is manipulation or not, I can never quite decide

[@MadeleineSwannSurreal]

She seems to veer between melting down and talking herself up. It's probably a weird mix of breakdown and acting, and unfortunately it's also very stressful for those she's involving

[@KuncanDastner]

That's what made me curious towards if she's faking or not- she bounces back and forth to a degree which I'd think means she isn't committing to one or the other

[@tianasao]

In conclusion, our trust issues remain intact 😌

[@KuncanDastner]

Trust issues forever and always

[@purplelamp273]

I do think Gabbie is going through something. Personally, I have a hard time rooting for Gabbie because of what she did to Jessi Smiles, her recent tweet where she "reminisced" about something horrible that happened to someone else, and the hate she seems to be sending to women (feels like internalized misogyny) and Trisha (no one deserves to be misgendered). Imo, this started because Rachel Oates made a book a year ago that Gabbie felt mocked her book. She sent a lot of hate to Rachel, and her instagram was taken down because Gabbie's fans mass-reported it. While other creators may have shit on Gabbie's book, Rachel was always very respectful and critiqued it (like she does other books), and did not say shit like "haha, this is bad, Gabbie dumb." I also found a comment interesting - that if Gabbie was doing all of this for attention, why didn't she just expose her treatment in the VS? And I agree. That would have gotten her a lot of support and attention. Her Tik Toks might be trolling, but overall, I think she is not well. However, she should not be lashing out at others, demeaning women, misgendering people, making SA situations about her, and blaming it all on her ADHD. She also still needs to apologize to Jessi.

[@KuncanDastner]

What she did to Jessi absolutely needs addressing, I totally agree. I think Gabbie has a knack of feeling victimized by people (must've started from vine, likely) and she takes that mentality into every confrontation she gets into. I hope she's able to improve and recover but right now I don't know what she's doing

[@foreverNwonder]

Agreed 100% ..what GH did to not only Jessi, also Jen Dent - Really needs to be properly addressed and made right in whatever way, if possible... But really, To perpetuate a complete lie that Jen committed a heinous crime -- that's unforgivable in my book....

[@indiapatterson58]

This is the best video I’ve seen about GH, no hyperbolic facial expressions & nasty comments. You deliver your point of view with empathy whilst remaining pragmatic & fair. You’re channel is an example of commentary done right. Much respect.

[@KuncanDastner]

Oh wow thank you for saying that, that's extremely kind of you!!

[@yveltalsea]

i agree with this 100%, all good takes.

[@Clairembify]

Sadly, Gabbie is an easy person to pile on because she’s a tryhard and she reacts terribly to criticism, and a lot of people take advantage of that. She doesn’t deserve a tenth of the hate she’s gotten, but she also seems to just be an unpleasant, narcissistic person who loves attention - when all she should be doing for her own sake is get out of the public eye. And then apologize to everyone she’s acted awfully towards. I always come back to that whole thing with Rachel Oates where she rambled on about how she’s « actually honored » that Rachel « hates » her poetry because Rachel also « hated » Bo Burnham’s poetry (blatantly untrue), it was so embarrassing to watch ; it painfully reeked of insecurity. That’s how all of her attempts to appear ~detached look to me.

[@mirelurk1511]

Ok but I don't believe a word of what she says about the trolling. She was clearly trying something, thought she was being edgy or enjoyed the attention she got from people thinking she needed help, but then tried to backtrack. "It feels good to be in control" absolutely reeks of desperation and insecurity. It's like seeing someone fall and scrape their knees but they get up and say, "I meant to do that." No girl. No.

[@KuncanDastner]

I think you're right, having to secretly boast to your fans that you're in control of the entire situation isn't a great look for her at all

[@razzle8140]

Yup

[@cookstrr2804]

it's nice to see a commentary yter have some sympathy for their subject (no disrespect to the other yters ofc) great video as always!

[@KuncanDastner]

Thank you!! I know most people covering this topic don't really hate her, but she's an easy target so I see why they decide to go down that path

[@thekojiwolf]

As someone with ADHD, I am glad the Patreon messages came to light. Gabbie made us look AWFUL to millions of people and I will never forgive her for that. The behaviour she displayed is not even close to how ADHD effects people. She is a huge troll and doesn’t care who her behaviour effects.

[@kiannah.4150]

same here! I see absolutely 0% of my symptoms in Gabbie, it was so disappointing to be the scapegoat for her

[@KingOfGaymes]

I also have it and that was horrible.. she’s adding to the stigma of ADHD. I’m tired of awful people using it as an excuse for their bad behavior. And honestly with how much she drilled it in like “i do this because of adhd, I’m so wacky cuz of adhd, omg lol my adhd” it feels like she doesn’t even truly have it and that was a lie or something.. I know people are different but nothing she does reminds me of someone with ADHD

[@muffins12012]

I never actually thought about that. I don't have ADHD for the record, but from my brother I can recognise it and maybe get a but of a perspective, but it really must suck to have her behaviour attached to it. I honesly really don't like how she uses it as an excuse and tries to explain everything with it cuz then it seams like ppl with ADHD are incapable of control themselves and just act immaturely like her, when the fact is that that isn't the truth. Just pouring my thoughts....

[@coryhawley738]

again adhd can present differently in other people its sad how people cannot just except that mental illness is individual and should not be grouped together the whole point of different mental disorders is so that professionals can assign treatments better people are very different even if they have the same disorder people also need to be aware that disorders can make people do terrible things this is the reality of mental health i personally have seen people with disorders manipulative abuse or generally just be aggressive through no fault of their own i mean you just need to take a look at high security mental hospitals to have an idea of what a mental disorder can make a person do with all that in mind i would say gabbie is quite normal for what i have seen she hasn't really don anything too bad from my perspective and from what i personally have seen she isn't the worst by a long shot . i understand how its hard to grasp the idea that someone could just be terrible based on a mental illness as humans we just want to believe she is the bad one, as it terrifies us to believe people could just snap like that or that its not these peoples fault, this belief isn't exactly logical in when you look at the evidence but it makes sense emotionally and comforts us somewhat i do hope people grow out of this though.

[@thekojiwolf]

@@coryhawley738 No, that's not how neurological disorders are diagnosed. You meet diagnostic criteria, unrelated symptoms don't just appear out of nowhere. That's not how it works.

[@buttercupghost]

“It’s nice to feel in control” makes me think that it IS a bad mental health spiral. The videos and tweets might be performative, but that doesn’t negate them completely. I think she’s trying to control the hate she’s getting, she’s figuring that since everybody is hating her anyways, she might as well go all out so she can at least control the hate she gets. That’s just my opinion, though, but I remember the stuff that I’d do just to feel in control when I was younger, and while it was more harmful to myself vs lashing out, I do relate to the feeling of wanting that control. My thought process was if everyone was going to hurt me, I might as well control how I was hurt, which is similar if the inverse of what I think Gabbie’s thought processes is. The truth is, I’ve always related to Gabbie in the worse way. I feel like she reflects the worst parts of myself back at me. I also get defensive with my art, though I’m trying to work on that, and don’t take criticism very well. I used to feel out of control and try to exert some sort of it in unhealthy ways. I’ve been careless with my words before. Sure, a lot of this was when I was younger, when I was a child, but I still struggle with a lot of it. But I’m also upset with her, because she’s crossed so many lines. I would have felt hurt at Rachel’s review, too, I will admit. I’m not good at taking criticism because I put a piece of myself in every piece I do. But I wouldn’t have attacked her so viscerally. Because, even if it hurt, Rachel was perfectly kind in her review. It was constructive criticism, unlike a LOT of videos I’ve seen on Gabbie Hanna’s poetry. She tried to be fair and even. And I will admit, I’ve watched Rachel for a while now, so I do have a parasocial relationship with her that might make me overly defensive or hurt by Gabbie’s remarks. Calling her a narcissist, a bitch, abusive, a harrasser....It just felt so mean to call someone, and such a disproportionate reaction to her reviews. Especially since Gabbie sent her one of her poetry books TO review, after she saw Rachel’s first reviews of her first book. That just makes her come across as so manipulative. I also just feel bad for Rachel because she’s been getting harassed by Gabbie fans after Gabbie talked about her, and she’s already had such a stressful year. Also, to be called an abuser when she’s been abused, recently had her ex threaten her... it just left a bad taste in my mouth. Maybe it’s because I’ve watched Rachel for a while that it leaves me so upset, but it just feels bad to see Gabbie attack such a sweet girl. I will admit Rachel isn’t a perfect person, no one is, I don’t always completely agree with her as I find her views somewhat too moderate at times, but she just seems like such a nice and genuine person, and it’s upsetting to see Gabbie attack her so much. Attacks on Rachel’s character, who she is as a person, personal attacks. It hurts to see. I really don’t think Rachel really meant any harm, but Gabbie just gets so vicious in her attacks. Again, I’m not good at taking criticism either, so I can relate to Gabbie, but... I do feel like she crossed a line in just how personal her attacks were. I also think that there were tons of other genuinely mean spirited reviewers she could have gone after. Rachel didn’t just review Gabbie’s poetry because it was a trend to shit on it, but because she’s a poetry reviewer (that’s not all she does on KZbin, of course, but she has a lot of poetry videos). She has a passion for poetry! She’s read a lot and knows a lot and it’s a genuine special interest, it seems. Gabbie could have chosen anyone else, why did she have to choose the KZbinr who was most fair in her reviews? I couldn’t even watch and read all of the tweets because they just felt so nasty. And then, apparently, she threatened to sue minors because they made a google doc that seems like it was basically saying “this is why I don’t think being a patron to Gabbie is worth the money” (they were ex patrons), and then tried to say that she didn’t threaten them when she clearly did! Sure, not all of the were minors, but Gabbie was informed that some of them were because she literally brought their parents into it. That was just outrageous to me. The doc wasn’t even released publicly (which is why I said seems like, because I haven’t read the doc), either, just sent to a discord server. It just seems like a bit much to try and intimidate a group that had literal children in it. (Here’s a video on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jquzhX-war9jbqc) Not to mention her misgendering Trisha. People even corrected her, but didn’t she still misgender them even after? I admit I haven’t actually seen this, just heard about it, but it just feels bad. Honestly, the whole internet owes Trisha an apology for how they handled them coming out as a “trans man”. Sure they ended up being mistaken, and they were actually nonbinary, but Trisha was trying to be vulnerable and share something about themselves which was probably really hard to do. I don’t like Trisha, because of all the other things they’ve done, but from the beginning I related to their experiences with gender and it felt really bad to see others dismiss them and call them a mockery of the trans community because isn’t that a bit truscum-y? Who gave people the right to decide who’s trans or not? This is a bit of a irrelevant tangent, but it’s been on my mind. I even thought of making a video when this was all happening defending Trisha, but... I’ve never made a commentary video before. I’m also deeply afraid of getting famous. The concept of people knowing me is horrifying. I also just... don’t think I can handle fame in a healthy manner. Anyways, that’s all I really wanted to say. I feel bad for Gabbie, because I do feel like she’s mental health spiraling, but... A lot of her actions just feel so mean to me. I can understand somewhat where Gabbie is coming from with some of this, and I don’t want to demonize her too much, but... Well, her actions are very upsetting. I wish her the best, but I also wish she would stop doing this kind of stuff.

[@EF-kk3vh]

This is a good comment!

[@KuncanDastner]

Thank you for putting so much effort into such a well-written response, I couldn't have said it better myself. I think she has a lot of actions to take responsibility for, and while people on the internet may have been especially mean to her for no reason, her actions don't justify that reaction.

[@snoozyq9576]

Why is everyone suddenly saying worse instead of worst.

[@shannonlee4622]

Idk, it still seems like mania to me. Biggest indicator is she says it's all about control. My manic episodes usually lead to online fights because I find myself revelling in the drama. Online fighting is triggered by your fight or flight.

[@bianca8583]

i really like how you approached gabbies situation rationally and with care. its rare to find someone whos unbiased and just discussing what’s literally happening. you have such good vibes, like that end tho

[@KuncanDastner]

Thank you for saying so!! It's nice to hear that people enjoy my style of videos, so thank you!

[@ItsAKazThing]

She’s 10000% going through something and passing it off as a troll.

[@KuncanDastner]

That's definitely what I'm afraid of

[@kimzer5881]

“Hey! You might also like this guy!” “Why yes, KZbin algorithm. Yes, I do.”

[@vavila16]

Personally I think if gabby is trolling she is shooting herself in the foot. What brands or music labels are going to want to sponsor her? She's losing credibility.

[@KuncanDastner]

I would agree, it'll be interesting to see where her career goes after this period of time

[@vavila16]

@@KuncanDastner same! Maybe she can bring the drama to reality tv

[@Yusoo8]

Vicky Avila who tf would wanna see that

[@Brattybat]

Not to mention, no one will believe her when she is in legitimate need for help if she keeps trolling

[@zoehicks880]

I’m glad somebody’s finally saying this! I find it super unbelievable that she was just trolling. I think she was just embarrassed by her public meltdown and is trying to cover it up to seem less “crazy”

[@KuncanDastner]

I think you're right, she's definitely trying to play it off as if she's controlling the whole thing to different people, which is a pretty tricky thing to pull off

[@Jordan-bm8lp]

Rachel never made fun of Gabbie’s poetry. She analyzed it from a very technical perspective. She gave credit where it was due, and she extracted good albeit underdeveloped ideas and concepts from Gabbie’s work, and compared it to other compositions that displayed the style or concept Gabbie was going for-but better. Rachel was nothing but nice, and I appreciate you talking about this, but know that Rachel did not make fun of Gabbie in the same way Alizee or James Marriott did.

[@ladynoluck]

Was just about to comment this! Not accurate to lump her into that

[@maries2631]

yeah, it's also worth mentioning Gabbi even send Rachel her second poetry book to review

[@axxwqw3117]

i think it's just... its so much easier to brush off mean/non-constructive criticism as hate. there was no way to do that with rachel but single her out to put her in the "hater" category. and of course her fans are going to agree with her and be able to offer gabbie vindication. im the same lol im great at brushing off people TRYING to upset me because it makes them look pathetic. love ignoring people like that in a public setting. but it actually motivates me to try harder to avoid honest criticism because it hurts me to my core

[@HartleiStansbury7]

I understand why trisha says gh is triggering...because she truly is. It reminds even me back to a bad place mentally reading some of these comments so she really needs to stop LOL when she finally** starts getting healthy shes going to have to deal with a lot of heavy emotions as a result of everything shes publishing online right now that she cant take back because so many people have already seen it....

[@galeg4021]

Rachel Oates's videos were actually very helpful and constructive, comparing her work to other poets, saying what was good and trying to help revise what didn't work. source: i watched them. and also gabbie sent her second book to rachel for a review.

[@vanessafaith32]

I think Gabbie is trying to tell herself that she is in control when in reality she is struggling with her mental health. Mental health struggles are one of those things that you feel like you have no control over, so you create a false sense of control instead. She isn't a good person overall, and I don't like her as a person, but I feel for her in her struggles.

[@samanthapurdy2053]

I'm sure she sent her book to the editor and then got offended at any change and that's why the book isn't edited correctly she has such a hard time with even kind and constructive criticism

[@KuncanDastner]

You know what I can definitely see that happening, I believe it

[@Grexsome]

I’ve got nothing for Trisha in the slightest, but that video they uploaded begging Gabbie to leave them alone and explaining their triggers and how horrible this situation had been for them really was upsetting, especially since right after that Gabbie essentially told more people to attack them. I think Gabbie is realizing that controversy boosts your platform, and if that’s her grind fine it’s what Logan Paul did and he’s got a decent career now, but she needs to leave these other creators out of it because they clearly don’t want to be there

[@Grexsome]

Maybe she does need help, but I don’t think a break down can justify her attempting to cause others to have breakdowns and mental trouble.

[@lotus_dream]

She has triggered MANY creators's mental health problems. She also egged her fans on when they left nasty comments for these influencers (like the tweet then take it bck right away so the fan will know, but she wont get caught). I feel bad for her bc I think she thinks she is acting. I hope she gets help, but hurt people also hurt people, and the fact that multiple people have asked her to leave them alone, but she continues to grope them back into the drama! It's just terrible

[@KingOfGaymes]

@@Grexsome I kinda hate that people are saying things that victimize her and they feel like they’re kinda passing off what she’s done.. like even if she does need help, she’s hurt a lot of people and done awful things. Being Mentally ill is not a free pass to do this stuff.. like threatening a lawsuit on minors? Rumoring that someone did a horrific crime? Telling her fans to go after people..? Thus causing them breakdowns and panic attacks? Just No..

[@monke-xp6gg]

can I just say you have an amazing voice?

[@KuncanDastner]

Oh thank you! I used to be insecure about my vocal fry so hearing people say this always makes me feel better!

[@kennitab]

I get it, I do but I think about how we as society repeatedly have made the behaviors of folks like Anna Nicole Smith and Martin Lawrence the butt of the joke while those folks were going through *some things* and its things like that, that make me very cautious about jumping to conclusions 😬😬😬 its a sticky situation for sure

[@KuncanDastner]

Oh yeah the media is very quick to polarize people as victims or villains and I think it always needs just a bit more critical thought involved

[@ectoplastiic]

"It feels good to be in control" sounds like something struggling to grasp on to any semblance of control says to convince themselves :/

[@oinkoink4407]

her acting like this is all fake literally means nothing. she still needs help. the fact that she feels the need to post her mental breakdown online is proof of that, regardless of if it’s attention seeking or not. i know because i’ve been in that situation myself and i just called it trolling but i was in a deep depression and craved the attention to distract me. i knew that i was trolling but that doesn’t mean i didn’t need help. it was a cry for help which i didn’t want to admit at the time because it’s easier to just say it’s a joke (because in a way, it is) but it’s also more than that. i don’t know why people are acting as if her saying she’s trolling changes anything. we already knew that. it’s that fact that she feels the need to do it in the first place.

[@EsotericTherapy]

EXACTLY. I can't believe how insensitive and frankly dumb most people are. No room for complexity or nuance at all. I'm glad someone gets it!

[@gblikestosew]

I don't even think SHE knows. It's terrifying to experience psychosis and cluster-b symptoms- I hate to see her so horribly lost in the sauce

[@elijahgrijalva2992]

This video is the your best so far the speed and editing is improved. Nice Duncan

[@KuncanDastner]

Oh wow thank you for saying that, that's so kind!

[@eleanorsmedberg3210]

Your timing is getting so good bro. I swear, each video is better than the last

[@KuncanDastner]

That's an extremely kind thing of you to say, thank you! I'll do my best to keep improving!

[@spider_flash509]

4:35 here’s your engagement boost :D

[@notria6683]

Something I’ve noticed is that gabbi needs to be liked & praised. Growing up, I think a lot of her talents were skimmed over cus she wasn’t the “pretty one” or the “skinny one” , so now that she’s lost weight & successfully built a platform, she figured her fantasies would become a reality: she would receive credit and praise. So, when she receives constructive criticism, it triggers her to lash out as if they are WRONG Bc it goes against HER idea..... I think a lot of her behavior stems from her idea that she DESERVES praise. Yes it’s sad, but that doesn’t excuse some of behavior

[@carlesbarkley8573]

ADHD isn't a mental illness, it's a mental disorder which is different. It quite literally means the prefrontal cortex of your brain, and everything associated with it, can not function "normally" hence the term neurodivergent. Other conditions included under the umbrella of neurodiversity include autism, OCD, tourette's, and dyslexia. There's a misconception that ADHD only has to do with inattentiveness or hyperactivity but that's not true. The portion of the brain that it effects is responsible for emotional regulation, executive functions, social skills, memory, and many other things. Not to defend her, but because women often go undiagnosed with ADHD due to a lack of hyperactivity as kids it make sense that she only recently got a diagnosis which would mean she has no skills built up for how to understand and work with her neurodivergent brain. But yeah you're right there's nothing we can do about it

[@enfleuri]

I like your empathetic take in videos. I just wish celebrities would get the opportunity to better their mental health in privacy, as the fame spotlight makes it infinitely harder. People should have the right to make mistakes, learn from them, and get better without millions of people attesting and mocking them for it.

[@ergotoxicosis]

"who's to say she's not lying in her patreon posts" YYYYESSSS THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN THINKING TOO

[@relent-lass7510]

She actually said Rachel wasn’t intellectual enough to understand art Gabbie, art doesnt have just 1 meaning, everyone sees it differently it’s not like math that has just 1 answer That’s why artists leave it to the viewer/listener to interpret it how they feel

[@winnielou8206]

My absolute favourite kind of humour is Duncan having a fancy mic in the background while recording the audio on a phone

[@winnielou8206]

New sub btw! So happy I found your channel!

[@Peepee4brain]

It’s frustrating because she’s invalidating people that actually experience manic episodes or hypomania. She’s adding to the stigma surrounding bipolar disorder and other disorders that may have similar symptoms. It is hard as someone that HAS experienced a mental break and hypomania to see things like this. People playing a character and pretending to have mental health problems to go viral is disgusting

[@Likeomgitznich]

My dumba** thought your beanie had zipper on it for most of this video 😂

[@Likeomgitznich]

And as always DADDY KUNCAN AT IT AGAIN WITH THE HOTTT TAKESSSS

[@HB-ey2dk]

I think Gabbie Hanna has such a bruised ego that she has to come out saying "of course I was trolling" to try and save face. But she doesn't realize that she actually caused other people real issues from the drama. Which is just so tone deaf of her.

[@Ravenousyouth]

It all reeks of mania. It's sad people only care about mental health when it's palatable .. imo It's real and she's "trolling" she says in the same way if you pushed someone over the say "it's a prank!" You still pushed them over.

[@nightrose6116]

who's maria???? edit: as soon as i posted this comment i realized you said mania whoops lmao

[@Skrot7]

im so glad that you used the correct pronouns for trisha, ive never seen anyone do that! as an enby i know how much it can mean so thank you!!!

[@mkb9108]

love this video!! the pacing, editing, organization was all really really good. it’s such an interesting and difficult line when you don’t want to assume an influencer’s conditions and yet their behavior is so alarming that you want to try to help. I’ve watched quite a few videos about gh and i felt that yours was one of the only ones that recognized that gabbie is both disrespectful and a bad role model as well as someone who needs support. I desperately want her to take a break from social media but i doubt it’s going to happen. i wonder what’s going to come out of her upcoming series exposing everyone...

[@KuncanDastner]

I think you're absolutely right, I also hoped she'd remove herself from social media but I guess if the internet gives you such a huge platform it must be an addicting thing to put down. I didn't know she had an upcoming series, I'll have to keep an eye out for that!

[@henlex6424]

Shes truly off the rails but I hope she gets help cuz something is definitely up

[@cafezo87934]

I never get tricked because I always google their birth chart beforehand so I know what I'm up against 😈

[@manicdepressivedani8712]

Whether or not she’s tricking us or doing it for attention she needs help. No one fakes things like this unless they have something wrong. As well as she very well displays mania symptoms and she seems deranged most of the time on her lives

[@KuncanDastner]

I completely agree, it doesn't matter if this is an act or not if she doesn't accept any hep from others, the people in her life need to reach out to her and help her get the care she needs

[@manicdepressivedani8712]

@@KuncanDastner I truly don’t understand how they haven’t already done something to help her if she’s displaying such serious signs

[@zaraamir9165]

Thank God someone FINALLY said what I've been thinking. I totally agree. Imo, Gabbie just had another public meltdown and felt embarrassed of it.

[@deborahwarren9368]

Mental health is not a joke. Gabbie just isn't funny. 🤷‍♀️

[@RestlessChildcz]

Dude you're one of the only people on KZbin who's summarized my feelings about her exactly how I felt them. I was on her side for a long time, I kinda still want to be but I lost a lot of respect recently.

[@Sunrise-fr9jb]

I think it’s both. She does need help. Not to get so much hate. But it also is her own actions. But I do not think she should get so much hate. She does need compassion she’s a human being

[@maireglor]

cinnamon at 8:56 was a beautiful pallate cleanser from gabby's content

[@shrapnel5595]

Thamk you Dunston Kanker for Amasing amd Betiful vibeos, My wife amd me lovee to wach everi niite. You hav savd hour marage. Manny Blesesings!

[@Seethemusicalcolors]

This video is spot on. Incredibly entertaining and finally an opinion I agree on

[@meganchambers8108]

Just popping by at tiffanyferg's behest. Great vid! I'll be sticking around.

[@KuncanDastner]

I'm so glad to hear it!! I hope you enjoy the rest of my stuff!

[@SniffyTugBoat]

her behavior alarms me bc if she is just trolling, does she have a proper support system when she does have a legitimate breakdown? and will they still be around when she does have that break? I hope she does and that her public life and private life are so separate from each other that we just don't have access to the safe haven of her private life and she can retreat to that when she needs it. and if I've fallen for the trolling, then I'm just a dumb baby.

[@KuncanDastner]

Oh yeah, it's fascinating to me when people have the resources and support to step away from the internet but refuse to, it's as interesting as it is heartbreaking to watch

[@yoavakiva6132]

The aesthetic to your videos is so great I litteraly cant stop binging your content lmao

[@KuncanDastner]

That's so nice of you to say!! Thank you

[@SajiSharma]

Great video Duncan, influencers love to manipulate and it isnt often that we get to catch a glimpse of their true intentions

[@KuncanDastner]

I agree! Hopefully we'll never reach that stage I'd hate to lose my mind this way

[@Celestiaaa_16]

I love how mature you are, you never freak out/ lash out at people. I’ve been binge watching your content for the past few days and you seem like a genuine and kind person, keep up the good work!

[@habeashumor9814]

Oh sure, getting Rachel Oates’s channel taken down from KZbin was just for the lols. F Gabbie Hanna.

[@KuncanDastner]

That certainly was disgusting behavior, using your audience to flag down someone's account just because you disagree with them is never a good look

[@TheMysteriousSealSan]

I’m literally so pumped that I found your channel this early. You’re probably the most fair, analytical commentary channel but also that doesn’t take itself too seriously, embracing nuanced opinion or being brave enough to reject popular views for what you deem of greater importance. All in all, nice work guy

[@sahanaaa1814]

WHY ISNT HE MORE FAMOUS HES A LITERAL MASTERPIECE

[@tania-ko4fs]

RIGHT ALWAYS TALKING TO HIS FANS HIS VIDS R SO GOOD LIKE HE NEEDS MORE SUBS

[@johansmallberries9874]

Countdown to “this was totally just a social experiment to raise awareness for mental health u guys, no need for 5150!” video..

[@KuncanDastner]

I would not be that surprised if we ended up seeing something like that

[@wxyz459]

New subscriber here! I can’t believe it took me this long to discover your channel. Your critique is empathetic and intelligent without being overly preachy. Can’t wait to see more from you!

[@wm7165]

First off, you keep on introducing to people i had no idea existed. Thanks! Second, if it is not an act, I hope she can get the help she needs. Once again, thanks! Good luck on your finals!

[@KuncanDastner]

Thank you so much! I'm sorry you have to learn about these people through me, I barely know who they all are either!

[@raisinnet7859]

I actually appreciate that there was no definitive conclusion for this video. it goes to show how complicated of a situation this is. obviously no one is excusing Gabbie’s behavior, but it’s interesting to examine how mental health and the mean comments(mean comments, *not* valid criticisms) play into her relationship with the internet.

[@anniecoxdraws]

Just found your channel and excited to binge! You have a calm, witty energy and I’m here for it.

[@geniusonyeo]

Your channel is very refreshing. Thank you so much for putting your time and efforts into great videos 🤍

[@skrittle555]

you really think someone would do that? just go on the internet and tell lies? lol no but for real she had me going too until i re-watched her self-diss track video. some people really think any attention is good attention and it's kinda sad ngl.

[@gabrielleengel7476]

I haven't really been following this at all, but it's a great video as always, Duncan! I think you made a great point about needing a support system, I'm feeling it hard in my last week's alone and trying to finish up college.

[@KuncanDastner]

I'm in a similar boat, the final weeks of college can be seriously tough, so I'm wishing you good luck!

[@colorfulsnappea3743]

I’m binge watching your videos because i just discovered your channel and its so swag dude i love them keep it up king your energy is amazing if you keep going i know you’ll become a bigger presence in the commentary corner of KZbin

[@sashabsanti]

I find it hard to believe that she’s as unbothered as she claims to be. She acts like she “doesn’t care” anymore about how people see her. She’s “unfuckwithable” and doesn’t care. But I don’t believe that. No one enjoys being hated and unliked.

[@KuncanDastner]

You're absolutely right, I can't image going through all this and then playing it off like it was nothing, this would crack my brain like an egg

[@imaginekudryavka9485]

".. she's trying to cover her tracks and assume some resemblance of control" YES. People like this will act up their actual impulses so no matter what, they can always claim to have been in control. It can be comforting to feel like their mental health isn't out of control, I suppose, but it's also super manipulative towards other people.

[@itsPetal]

I respect your approach to this topic, especially in saying that she might not be faking it all. I wouldn't call myself a commentary channel, but I made a video about Gabbie specifically because the commentary community was coming across so poorly in their coverage of her breakdown and it was my most disliked video ever lmao

[@ItsJustLom]

The one good thing about the recent Gabbie gossip is that it resulted in me finding this channel. I really like your take on this, as well as how you approach other topics in your other videos. Thoughtful & analytical, instead of what I see a lot from other commentary channels where it's more about their feelings and bias rather than educating the audience on the facts of the situation. 👍 I'll be sticking around, for sure.

[@kylesaunders8436]

That patreon post seems like the exact stuff I would say when Manic. Even if she truly believes she is trolling or faking. It is something inherently wrong with how her brain is working contrary to her norm

[@Lauren-xw8bo]

To quote an [ortega?] taco commercial: “por que no los dos?”

[@elbis1964]

Great channel! So glad I discovered your content. I've been bingeing your videos for the past 2 hours.

[@KuncanDastner]

Oh wow, thank you! Hopefully my videos don't get stale after 2 hours

[@elbis1964]

@@KuncanDastner they didn't don't worry :)

[@emelia1114]

this is off topic but id like to add your channel is growing insanely fast, I swear the other day it was 5k and know it's 6.15k, I'm so very happy for you and wish you the best

[@KuncanDastner]

That is so kind of you to say! I got lucky and the algorithm is giving me a little boost, it's been cool to see!

[@helenhs.]

This is the first video I saw on your channel and I subscribed halfway through it, not because it is a NEW new subject, there are a ton of videos on Gabbie, but because you are compassionate and I really appreciate that. Looking forward to seeing you grow! Really rooting for you to keep the humanity and care you handle real people:)

[@breannegrondahl4133]

rape apologists don’t deserve redemption arcs.

[@MissCaraMint]

I feel like Gabbie is saying she is fine and that she's trolling simply because she doesn't want to admit there is a problem. She's in denial.

[@Deedeedoodad]

Your transitions tho!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@aainakhurana6374]

i’m obsessed with your videos

[@roanweasley6657]

2:53 when reading “chivalry” my brain turned it into a hole sounding rock song

[@marcelaruiz2464]

This is my first time watching one of your videos and i just have to say that this is so well done and you’re so good natured and gentle 🙏 its so rare to see people like you on this app stay safe i wish you the best 💐

[@KuncanDastner]

That is so kind of you to say, thank you!!

[@gordabajona777]

Even if she's faking it she needs help, it's not normal to act like that just for some views

[@soph6324]

she's gonna turn into the girl who cried wolf eventually

[@lpsdaniela]

I find a lot of comfort in your channel. It's very chill, no loud noises or obvious/uneeded observations, yer nice voice, it's truly nice to listen and watch your videos. You also make good and valid points and don't just make videos because why not, I can tell you enjoy making these too (to some extent). I really respect your opinion because of all of these reasons. Keep up the great work and I can't wait to see more of your vids :D Edit: Oh HECK my bad, I just realized this is a very old video, what I said still stands tho! /gen

[@tricksfollies9549]

I don’t like Gabbie Hanna. After she attacked Rachel Oates, somebody who genuinely cares about poetry and wanted to give her constructive criticism, I really hated her. Gabbie even sent her new poetry book to Rachel and Rachel critiqued it. Then, Gabbie went and cried to their only mutual friend about how big of a jerk Rachel was in her video, even though Gabbie gave her her book to review.

[@kdb774]

When I saw that last sentence in the leaked post, I felt so bad for her. I struggle so much with feeling that things are out of my control and that has def led to some shitty coping mechanisms. Thus, when I saw that she said “it feels good to be in control,” like, you can tell that she’s using the “hate”/criticism she usually gets as a way of controlling the narrative surrounding her to distract from the lack of control she feels in her day-to-day life or mental health. Instead of taking time for mindfulness or rest, she’s using the internet to almost SH and feel like she’s in control again. This is all speculation lol, but you can see she’s not okay. Personally, i think she should just take herself off the internet, try and repair the damage she’s caused other content creators, and like vibe out far from LA.

[@spinestealer8129]

8:57 Cinnamon is absolutely precious ,,Ò ᴗÓ,,💕

[@angeljaceherondale]

11:17 please don't ever say something like that... It perpetuates so much that's wrong with the world. It's a terrible thing to say about yourself, and to imply about people not considered 'normal.' I know you didn't mean it like that but, yeah. Please don't say it. Enough 'weird' people have been 'put down' through history, and continue to, simply because they're 'weird.'

[@adoramay9410]

I must admit, that while Gabbie Hanna is abusive and problematic, and I'm not trying to defend her. But, some of the people making fun of her crossed a line. People being terrible doesn't excuse bullying, the targeted attacks are very uncalled for. Also, as a singer, making fun of her singing kind of pissed me off. I feel like it's sending the wrong message to people, especially potential singers. It's a very vulnerable thing, and I think so many potential singers are scared to do it because they are scared of being mocked like Gabbie.

[@rock8983]

Your cat is super cute, and cinnamon is such a fitting name!! Awesome cat!!! Awesome video!!!

[@BinturongGirl]

My take (as an internet stranger) is that she is a digital self-harmer. She is intentionally provoking all sides to make sure she gets called out for faking and everything else. Sarah Z did a great video about someone who claimed to have written My Immortal (the FanFic) and how that person had dozens of alt accounts all attacking each other (ie himself). It's the illusion of attention. I think Gabbi literally cannot imagine anything worse than Internet irrelevance.

[@judezhu5364]

Hey D dawg hope you're doing fine with the finals~~ can i ask you what voice recording device/app you're using on your phone? it's such a signature of your image hahahahahahah

[@KuncanDastner]

Thank you for the well wishes! All I use is the iphone's built-in Voice Memos app, it has a surprisingly high audio capture quality that has worked wonders for me!