Does Gear 5 Ruin Tension?

[@MrMorj]

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[@animeanalyzed2566]

@@Coolgamer.. Ah yes, exactly my response to a manscaped commercial

[@srgdawgface1518]

I think it will fit Blackbeard really well, they will both be laughing at eachother as they fight to the death, cause blackberd was laughing like a prick last episode

[@jeanchris128]

I do not always agree on every Morj's video but he nailed it on the head with this one. To me, it's not hard to embrace Gear 5... As for the Akainu's question, although Luffy's revenge on him would be sweet, I have the feeling that between Dragon and Akainu there might be some (tragic) history as well...

[@Coolgamer..]

We'll have to wait and see if we'll ever get a serious fight for Luffy. I hope Luffy vs Sakazuki is a dramatic, serious, and tense fight.

[@umbrella3051]

Vasco shot wants to buy manscapped

[@qb4428]

I don't know why people are shocked that a guy named joyboy isn't an edgelord...

[@RaffyDGoat]

9:03 were these past fights too “edgy” for you? 🤔

[@KyubiCloaks]

I dont know why people think anyone is asking for "edgelord". Do you consider his other gears too edgey?

[@afrogarou]

Yall would call snakeman edgy if it came out today.

[@incinemvs]

@@KyubiCloaksHe’s referring to other anime transformations not luffy’s. Bc luffy is joyboy.

[@KittSpiken]

That would be joiboy

[@RudeSnipe]

Oda is making a serious statement by showcasing a wacky MC: the idea that joy is a radical response to evil and injustice. Yes, outrage is defiant, but joy is overwhelming. Or as Albert Camus said, to be so absolutely free that one's existence is an act of rebellion. That is what Luffy brilliantly depicts.

[@justaway6901]

Ah like the Joker

[@rndhoody2634]

This.

[@rndhoody2634]

@@justaway6901 I was just thinking that too. Here we have a guy who contrasts all the dark and evil stuff he does with things we normally associate with "good." Bright colors, jokes, and laughter. It takes things from a basic question of "tension and no tension" to a discussion about the uncanny.

[@cygnusprime6728]

All of that can be true and it can also be true that Oda sometimes becomes tone deaf breaking the tension at horrible times.

[@blakex2699]

i like your statement but luffy always had goofiness in his fights. water luffy with crocodile. getting arlong teeth in his mouth but when luffy get serious it was so badass. i liked the balence not sillly all the time

[@O.G.3]

As someone who likes Gear 5 overall, i cant imagine Luffy fighting Akainu while laughing the whole time. I hope in the future Luffys "freedom" in Gear 5 lets him channel other emotions, not just joy

[@yeeman9478]

I personally think luffy wont even fight akainu, sabo will, even if for us as readers he doesnt nearly have the emotional investment in akainu killing ace, ace still was his brother plus the match up fire vs magma would be super interesting just because the magma fruit is supossed to be stronger than the magma fruit (really i think sabo was pretty much created that fire fist ace can get his "personal" revenge on akainu)

[@re_striker3431]

I feel like this is all setup for luffy to have a really serious moment in gear 5. In a sense it sort of parallels pretimeskip because luffy is a really joyful character, but once his friends are hurt, he snaps. Right now, luffy is just playing around with gear 5, but just imagine when imu,akainu, or blackbeard fight him

[@OtakuTalkOD]

​@@yeeman9478I've said this a million times and ppl wanna fight me about it. I don't think it's necessary for Luffy to fight Akainu

[@sudiptaday7875]

​@@yeeman9478yup I have been saying this for years sabo should proof to akainu that flame's can be hotter than magma

[@CT_20243]

Exactly, luffy should not be laughing while fighting akainu because Akainu landed the blow that killed Ace, but we see luffy fight with tension in gear 5 when he use the bajrang Gun on kaido

[@greatestcait]

What I love about Gear 5th is how Oda really does everything he can to crank up the tension, featuring someone as truly vile and despicable as, say, Saturn, and then Luffy comes to the rescue and lightens the mood. When Luffy is in Gear 5th, he just radiates the aura that everything will be okay, and I think that's incredibly powerful.

[@butterflyl3926]

A light mood reduces the seriousness of the moment (by definition). It dampens the emotion of the current whole Bonney-kuma-Saturn drama and will inevitably result in a lower pay-off when the evil is finally defeated.

[@radaro.9682]

​@@butterflyl3926Or highlights it. It does releave tension. But imagine in universe what seeing Luffy show up like that would do for hopeless people. Its not like putting tension in other parts of the sotry instead of the fights is a bad thing.

[@mnwlk]

Theres barely any tension when I read one piece since I know no one can die and luffy will always succeed which is way I and many other's have marineford as one of the best arcs in one piece since we seen luffy fail and it actually having consequences in Ace's death

[@kingjermere]

@@mnwlk Okay but why would you want Luffy to still be losing at this point? That was the point of Marineford and the timeskip. The SHs shouldn't be losing lol

[@Aether_GM]

I miss the Luffy from the end of Enies Lobby . It was the moment one piece became my favorite. It seems like one piece will never feel like that again and it's wild people are cheering for that

[@Cookiemario111]

Next episode: “Does Gear 5 Have Motion?”

[@sushantjha4386]

Hey, fellow Science guy .

[@yoketah]

And finally, "Does Gear 5 Have Truss?"

[@alamotungoe8478]

does gear 5 have compression?

[@acetofresh1]

The argument One Piece is always silly and something I’ve had problems with people like GrandLineReview implying it’s solely escapism, when One Piece is one of the most dramatic and complex entries in the shounen canon. With that said, I’ve come to appreciate how Luffy’s strange demeanor in Gear 5 has come to actually affect the narrative and also add future philosophical questions. Does he have true free will in it, especially since he cannot seem to stop Nika’s persona and he isn’t aware of its nature. Vegapunk highlighted how Lucci ( and Kaku by extension) are in awakening and seem to be unaffected by the animal, but he didn’t say this for Luffy, and it is clear Nika’s persona affects him. He cannot truly remain serious in the form. I’m interested to see how this develops.

[@d1theartist]

I leave the room, and Morj is talking about gear 5th. I walk back in, and he's asking me honestly, how often do I shave "down there?" 😮

[@illuminoeye_gaming]

like damn bro at least take me out to dinner first

[@justaway6901]

When Luffy acts silly during fights in Pre-timeskip, he is actually serious on what he is doing. What he is doing just looks silly and hence the comedy. He was not laughing like a crazy maniac.

[@chinuaalibatya7345]

Yeah idk why people somehow ignore the nuance of that and read it purely as him intentionally goofing around when it is more accidental

[@re_striker3431]

No but that's not the point. Luffys character is initially very joyful with no care in the world. Once people start to hurt his friends does he turn serious. We haven't had a dramatic situation like that in gear 5 yet so it's just too early to judge

[@RaffyDGoat]

@@re_striker3431 Well there was the moment when Kizaru was strangling Usopp and Luffy’s reaction was his eyes popping out.

[@re_striker3431]

@@RaffyDGoat ehhh that's not like a super dramatic moment though. Luffy knows he can stop kizaru at that moment

[@JVRD27]

​@@RaffyDGoatthat wasn't written to be that sort of moment. Let's wait for when something really dramatic happens. Something keen to Robin being taken by CP9 or Ace's execution, then we can really say.

[@Dushnn]

u forgot one thing: Comedy being the oppisite of tension and comedy bein a tool to cut tension, can also work the other way around. what i mean is: Imagine gear 5 - the always funny laughing guy all of a sudden break out of character and just stop smiling all of a sudden cuz of sth that happens - that would create hell of a lot of tension too.. there is not only a way for comedy to cut tension but for comedy to create or at least fuel tension aswell

[@schtreg9140]

This is brilliant. And could work very well.

[@ZBoy-rc8zf]

absolutely

[@Dushnn]

When i think of Chapter 1108 - that comment is going to age well 🌚

[@user-up1op3kz9q]

I don’t think Bajrang Gun is the only way that an attack from Gear 5th can be played seriously. Some of the named moves we saw against Lucci and Kizaru (Dawn Bazooka, White Star Gun) aren’t really THAT out there in terms of silliness when compared to the rest of Luffy’s moveset, and I can easily imagine a context where they’re framed in a more dramatic light. One of Oda’s biggest strengths is his ability to derive drama from exaggerated imagery (i.e. Luffy’s face after Ace’s death.) I’d be surprised if he conceived Gear 5th with a limited tonal range with this in mind.

[@Chillaxorita]

All this does is confirm Morj's point. He didn't mean that Gear 5 could only be played seriously with *exactly* Bajrang Gun. He meant that Gear 5 could only be played seriously when Luffy uses more straightforward moves that intentionally dial back the silliness, *like* Bajrang Gun. The fact that you bring up examples of Luffy using more straightforward and less goofy attacks only proves the point that Gear 5 being played toward its strengths does not lend itself for a serious confrontation.

[@ThePizza28]

Man, having studied script writing I can confirm having to explain the opposition of comedy and tension is insane but unfortunately necessary when you see how confidently incorrect lots of OP fans are. I actually wondered if you had any personal passion/experience in writing when I discovered your channel because you often have extremely well informed predictions about storytelling that contrast with a lot of the nonsense fanfictions we see a lot, and more often than not Oda follows those storytelling guidelines which makes predicting certain aspects of the story rather simple.

[@Desmond_Video_Discussions]

He's mentioned in his livestreams he wants to make his own movie one day and he views a lot of his analysis on KZbin as exercises for him to work and improve on his own media and writing skills before then

[@nihili4196]

It's hard to tell if Gear 5 is hard to create tension. Because yes, comedy is always defusing tension. But only one kind of tension. The tension you feel when you're reading the story and get swallowed by it so you can't be bothered to analise it in terms of clishes or tropes, and you just feel things, that tension is gone. But meta tension you feel by analyzing where story is going by looking at tropes and how writer writes is not at all gone, at least yet. On the one hand so far there has been the only one fight where Luffy wasn't absolutely dominating everyone once he entered it. But on the other hand there has been only like, three fights with it. We know that Oda is not against making Luffy lose, so his fights from meta perspective are never sure to finish with him being victorious. He's not like Zoro who can't ever lose, so his options are tie or win. So there is always a tension as to if G5 is enough to win. I would argue that G5 is attempt at making you smile or at ease not by removing tension, but despite it. It doesn't remove it, as much as makes you forget about it, from meta perspective, that is. That being said, it is goofy and idiotic as hell. It's nothing new, Luffy is known for having goofy attacks, but this doesn't mean he's not capable of being serious. I mean, Arlong's fight was first really serious fight in the story, and we've had so many goofy scenes. Gear 5 is essential part of One Piece, but so is seriousness. Oda is not a god, he has more writing flaws than i can be bothered to list, but he can mix seriousness and goofyness both really well. Let's just let Oda cook this time, we need few more examples of the use of it to tell whenever G5 was good or bad idea

[@marcelbeans1482]

i can imagine luffy refusing to use gear 5 against akainu because he wants to be serious because of his rage and hatred but in the end he breaks free of his hate and realizes that joy and liberation is more powerful than hate

[@Eyoballin]

I don't like gear 5 but in that context it could be cool. Almost like fighting back some inner overly joyful demon that takes over his personality that he has to overcome or something

[@dariuslegacy3406]

The tone of the story is likely about to get darker than it’s ever been. Gear 5th is a narrative compliment for this, if handled properly, it can be a really good balancing tool for just how messy things are about to get.

[@tonys7246]

I like this idea

[@SchrollShepard]

Great video, I agree with most things said here, except the observation around 16:35 or so. That example is, in my opinion, not a very good showing of breaking tension, because it didn't really do that. Luffy and Kaido laughing and having fun in that part of the fight was not a comedic relief of tension, it was a showing, or representation, of two warriors of equal/similar skill respecting each other and thoroughly enjoying the thrill of a well fought battle.

[@samuelpalomera9390]

Morj, i like your analysis and your videos. Having said that, please stop using insults and derogatory text to other fans. You can both present your ideas and not insult others. It's simply exhausting.

[@tonys7246]

When he said the thing about going back to check "if you have the memory of a goldfish" I was like damn bro is pressed 😂 I think the amount of times he used the word "objective" for his own opinion also said a lot lol

[@rndhoody2634]

I think the rebuttal to the 3rd defense is kind of weak. The reason people brought up Bajrang gun wasn't to say that it shows Kaido's battle becoming serious, it was to show that Luffy was capable of being serious in G5 in general. That's to say, sure G5 was designed to cut tension, but that doesn't mean it always has to. Bajrang Gun may just be a big punch, but it's a comically big to the point its just as ridiculous as anything else Luffy has done, but it isn't comical. That's because Luffy's power isn't "cutting tension"-- that was just Oda's motivation for creating the form. His power to to fully express himself without limits. This should, and has shown to, include non-comical, but equally ridiculous forms, i.e, Giant Luffy, WSG, etc. Oda can get away with this because he has been mixing the ridiculous with the serious forever. (Senor Pink, anyone?) Odds are we just don't have a grammar for a Nika who builds tension because, frankly, we just met the guy. But to suggest he can't use the form and maintain tension is kinda silly.

[@crevhulk]

The reason why oda feel confortable with G5 now is because luffy isnt the underdog anymore hes the one at the top.Luffy can clash against kizaru while feeling great because he know hes stronger and can solve the situation by himself,unlike sabaody where luffy was powerless causing fear and desesperation to him and the crew. Look at usain bolt when he was racing, he wasnt worried but he was joking and smiling,why? because he had no pressure he knew he was the best.

[@Leonkennedy19992]

Idk man. Luffy hasnt beaten kizaru. He keeps getting knowcked down. I could see your argument with luccy. But not kizaru

[@KeinProblem-uv5jh]

@@Leonkennedy19992luffy wasnt knocked down once by kizaru lmao Kizaru was knocked down twice

[@Leonkennedy19992]

@@KeinProblem-uv5jh your right sorry. But luffy couldnt take down kizaru for good

[@legend_2543]

Bound to happen at some point he’s a yonko now only about 5 people who I think are stronger than Luffy currently in story

[@KeinProblem-uv5jh]

@@legend_2543 who? Only one i can see stronger are shanks and maybe bb

[@Panch0_Villa]

I believe in Oda he's had all these years to think about how he's going to handle this. I can't wait to see what will come!

[@cy4069]

The community discourse on G5 just proves once again that your average shonen manga reader has literally no idea what they are talking about 90% of the time

[@rng-mos2314]

G5 sucks bro, it turned Luffy into pirate jesus

[@ZetaMoolah]

@@rng-mos2314 My brother in Christ, Luffy is pirate Jesus. Shanks is literally pirate John the Baptist.

[@rubberman3226]

​@@ZetaMoolahbro did not read bible piece

[@PikaPenny17]

@@rng-mos2314 Dude, Luffy has been pirate jesus at least since he survived execution through divine intervention in Loguetown.

[@Mooglatan]

Morj, I seriously don't understand criticism No. #3. Saying "if Gear 5 Luffy can be serious sometimes, what's the point of making him goofy the rest of the time?" is the same as saying, "If regular, non-Gear 5 Luffy can be serious sometimes, what's the point of making him goofy the rest of the time?" Gear 5 is great because when Luffy wants to be serious, he can be serious, but when he wants to be goofy, he can be REALLY goofy. I seriously don't understand why Morj as well as so many other One Piece fans have gaslit themselves into believing Gear 5 can NEVER be serious when we've literally seen him be serious with the Bajrang Gun. It doesn't matter if Luffy was only serious in Gear 5 for a single panel, Oda's shown he can be serious in Gear 5. End of.

[@msaag5490]

I believe Morj would use that Oda interview to explain again why he thinks criticism 3 is a thing. But I agree with you that Morj is silly for thinking Oda can't give G5 serious moments or that Luffy being serious will be exclusively a non-G5 thing. Like yeah, Oda may have said G5 is to make fights less serious, but who's stopping Oda from making a fight so dire G5 Luffy has to be serious.

[@jayveeruzforce2322]

Of course there'll be Tension, I can't beleive people still doubt this even after reading the recent chapters. Gear 5th is always on a Timer, It can leave at ANY point in time, And after using it Luffy is left *vulnerable* But if ur looking for Intense blood-bawls then Gear 5th ain't for you, Sun God Nika is supposed to represent *Hope, Joy* and Freedom* If the God himself can't be hopeful about the future then what's the point of being a REPRESENTATION of said themes?

[@big3fanboy19]

I disagree with the notion that g5 can never be serious you give examples of luffy big fights. Luffy vs arlong starts to play around then get serious. Luffy vs crocodile had 2 fights where he was comedic, a bit serious wasn't until the third and final fight where he got serious. Luffy vs lucci gear 3 after the effect he was small and jokish then serious again, doffy luffy used boundman a joke of a body had comedic moments later serious. Luffy vs kat might be the only one where luffy was serious all the way through. G5 first is used as comedic until the final moments where he does get serious barajang is a good reference for how luffy even though g5 can be comedic will have serious moments like luffy clashing with lucci, luffy white star gun against kizaru, the most recent chapter where he punched kizaru. I'm not a big fan of g5 I still like it but I'm happy it can have more serious and epic moments while have comedic stuff. G2 all the way

[@TheMasterd333]

I think a better example of a "serious" moment for G5 was in the middle of the Kaido fight when Luffy lost the transformation and then restarted his heart while claiming how death would just leave his bones behind, listing the reasons that he's fiighting for and dropping Pedro's name.

[@zzzkarlzz]

Oda: "luffy wont defeat kaido with a bigger punch" Defeats kaido with literally a bigger punch

[@oceanman6915]

should have been an giant acme anvil punch

[@dothangbui4918]

you gotta have a source of this cap

[@zzzkarlzz]

@dothangbui4918 oda actually said in an sbs look into it..prior to kaidos defeat all OP ytubers said mentioned it

[@dothangbui4918]

which sbs?@@zzzkarlzz

[@ophiuchus_kin]

My read on G5 is simply that Luffy has gotten to a level of power that he truly feels like he can be free and enjoy himself as everything will be ok, he finally has the strength to protect everyone and in a way it's a very tough guy thing of there's no reason to worry, so I'll keep smiling. Or maybe he's just detached from reality when in gear fifth and cannot help himself

[@wisdommanari6701]

Yay I love these "community videos" one of the first videos I watched of yours was you talking to the Manga Fandom about their impatience with the opening of Wano. I really enjoyed your "read the story in front of you, and appreciate it for what it is" approach to that part of Wano. So I'm really looking forward to this. Also how about a gear 5th Morj Plushie?

[@NeroPiroman]

Blackbeard akainu and imu must be serious fights no matter what

[@nomarnomad8405]

Morj giving a masterclass on how to make a strong argument: don't decide what you feel is right and then cherrypick the evidence you like and ignore the rest, that's backwards. Think through the evidence first then base your conclusion around what the evidence shows, regardless of how you feel. Common sense and logic win every time.

[@MitchSmokes]

The only one who says that haki is the true power of a pirate king is Kaido, and he literally proceeds to get defeated by the power of the Nika fruit right after

[@Avid027]

If luffy were to fight Akainu, i would imagine that could go like this.... Luffy seeing Akainu immediately transforms into Gear 5 and begins to kick his ass, however it is clear that he is displaying signs of weakness by maybe not having his head in the game or something. Akainu sensing this, begins to mock Ace and spit on his memory and reminding Luffy of the tramatic memory of his brother dying. Eventually, the reawakened pain and resentment luffy feels prove to be so great that it shackles Luffy and pulls him out of Gear 5, no longer being free. Luffy then risks being killed by Akainu This could parallel Ace choosing to turn back to fight Akainu rather than choose the freedom to live, ultimately costing him his life. However when the situation looks dire, Luffy, perhaps with a bit of motivation from his friends, recalls the bond he had with his brother as well as the one he has with his friends rather than the pain of his death, and now unshackled is able to go back to Gear 5 and he eventually beat Akainu with an expression of joy on his face, not because he got revenge, but rather knowing that Akainu will never hurt his loved ones ever again. Maybe this is a bit cliché, but according to this video, cliché is what Oda is the master of, so he would be able to pull it off.

[@BlackFire569]

There's truly something to be said about the difference in how stories can hit depending on where you take a break. I feel looking at Wano as a whole with Gear 5 as a Culmination of it is definitely a good perspective to take when looking at the new power up. However the entire feeling of it can change if you're taking the story on a week by week basis without looking at it as a whole like many do.

[@MetakJesu07]

I find it a bit different. Taking a strong story as a whole like in one read-through emphasizes it's strengths. Taking a weak story as a whole just points out glaring weaknesses. The latter happens with Wano. All the poor writing decisions come to the forefront and aspects become even worse than the weekly experience.

[@justaway6901]

If you search for Luffy Gear 5 on google images, the majority of Gear 5 fan arts are depicted as the typical "cool" transformation. Not the cartoony vibe that Oda depicted it to be. In fact the only goofy depiction in the results that I saw was the one that Oda drew himself. I thought people don't like Gear 5 being "edgy" and yet somehow fan arts are depicted as such 🤔

[@odanis_1056]

After the last chapter this all changes

[@dynomgtansari3206]

Morj, thanks for the video. I don’t disagree with you, but it really takes me out of the video when you insult or mock other people’s interpretation or simplify them to the point of absurdity. I think your main argument is correct, but it detracts from how good it is, in my own opinion maybe, when you belittle the people who are frustrated or maybe even not so. That’s all I wanted to say. Thanks again for all the work and videos you do.

[@dantecrottogini529]

One of Oda's greatest strength has always been to mix comedy and drama

[@cygnusprime6728]

That USED to be one of his greatest strengths. I can never forgive showing a sobbing Kinnemon begging Luffy to avenge him, then later seeing Kaido cave his skull in, only to show Kinnemon survive with the stupid running legs gag we already saw.

[@jinkun2629]

@@cygnusprime6728 So just because it didn't work for you ONCE, you're going to doubt his entire skill? Why do people always go to extremes? One mistake doesn't erase the fact that he is great at it 99% of the time. Kuma's flashback proved he still got it.

[@cygnusprime6728]

@@jinkun2629 eh? When did I say the one example I gave proved his comedic timing was bad? You want more examples? How about Luffy becoming obese eating food then laughing when he comes back while Vegapunk is getting impaled by Saturn...?

[@jinkun2629]

​@@cygnusprime6728 Wait, you thought that was meant to be comedic? How? That's just how Nika acts in his natural state. You get characters like Doflamingo maniacally laugh all the time. Did you ever think that's comedic? Sounds more and more like a you problem. I'm not saying there aren't things that should be addressed about Gear 5th, but Luffy laughing doesn't mean it's "comedy".

[@anthonykhoury9292]

@@cygnusprime6728you’re stupid 😂

[@DankyApe]

Everyone saying luffy was silly to begin with. Yea he was immature. But as series with on luffy has had his serious moments that we all enjoyed and loved. On top of that defeating an enemy that was supposed to be the strongest in a silly manner made me not really care anymore. Made realize that oda is just milking this show and the rest of the fans may be idiots. This isn’t good writing.

[@James_Wisniewski]

It's been explained that, when a Zoan user awakens, it can be intoxicating as the fruit's personality starts to take over. You can clearly see that at work when Luffy goes into Gear 5. In part, you have to learn to regain control over it so you don't end up like the Impel Down jailers, just completely mindless. That may be a bit easier with a Human-Human fruit since you're already starting at a familiar base level of lucidity. Maybe he'll gain more control over it as he uses it more. That probably won't dial down the zaniness entirely, nor should it. Just make it a bit more manageable.

[@firebornliger]

Nah, stuff like Pell surviving ruined tension long ago.

[@thyageshnathan598]

Thorfinn (Vinland Saga)- I have no enemies Luffy - I’ll have fun with my enemies

[@chrispolo25]

Don’t disrespect Thorfinn, Luffy is trash.

[@adzo147]

@@chrispolo25get off his meat

[@zyxabc0]

@@chrispolo25then why are you here ? go back and worship your favourite character bozo

[@chrispolo25]

@@zyxabc0 SoyBoy OnePiss trd is big mad 🤣

[@OnlyLiarGameFan]

@@chrispolo25 Anime fans don't exist.

[@sora6748]

I am sick of the fanbase complaining gear 5th here to stay I agree we saw gear 4th wont work agaisnt admirals oda tried that shows it does not work wont work against the rest of luffys foes we are in the end game so he needs to be the strongest it wont ruin the story. TO the fanbase how many fights does emperor luffy has left now we know he unbeatable in gear 5th which is what its suppose to be not many fights left before the final war arc where emperor Luffy leading the grand fleet and everyone that joins him against the WG yes blackbeard as well, oda doing waht he wanted to do to whitebeard emperor Luffy is the next whitebeard the whole point since the dressrosa arc

[@jackarthur4673]

Something people miss is that gear 5 is Luffy fighting like he's always wanted to fight so if he had gear 5 since the beginning of the story he would have fought more like how he fought kaido in the serious fights. Luffy demonstrates his personality and confidence in himself when fighting in gear 5 and it causes his allies to build confidence and even be inspired/reassured (joyboy) when watching him. So if he had gear 5 even when rescuing robin he would have been more lighthearted due to his self confidence and he'd expect his allies to feel the same.

[@martin-nj5de]

Well its true for lucci and Kizaru, but Kaido? No. Luffy was absolutely invested in that fight (thats why tama's character exists). Yes he smiled in the fight but he also screamed kaidos name in rage. Its not different from croc, doffy, lucci and so on. The fight had a very serious tone. Just remeber Luffys rage as he saw kinemon and the other hanging on to their lifes. Kinemon is his long time friend. That is actailly more serious than most of the other older scenarios. So the Fight vs Kaido is like the fights you have stated to need a serious tone. Dont get me wrong, I like G5 but thats just a point in the Video that makes no sense.

[@SauceDoe-h3z]

Why Morj sound so passive aggressive the whole video lmao chill bro

[@Flavio-bn7ne]

When you see the same arguments online all the time on the internet it's easy to get a little worked up when finally adressing them lol

[@hoodie7257]

@@Flavio-bn7nenot even finally he’s addresses this shit on stream like once a month I’d be annoyed too

[@santiagohernandez748]

I think what you’re misinterpreting and what a lot of fans are failing to express is that ok yes gear five cuts tension but not the tension of the overarching plot. The weight of the big picture is still the same the tool for its solution is what is being changed and thats fine because it works without making light of the situation at hand as a whole

[@Kawakil]

What if luffy’s struggle against Akainu and/or Blackbeard would precisely to overcome his resentment for them ? What if liberation not only refers to the opressed people but also a liberation from one’s ego ? That would definitely distinguish Luffy from pirates like Whitebeard and to some extent Roger who would probably pursue revenge.

[@cygnusprime6728]

That sounds like some talk no jutsu "I understand your pain" stuff. No thanks. Blackbeard is an opportunistic psychopath who killed his own brother and father, he doesn't deserve empathy.

[@yaseennechat4090]

I don't think the original commenter said anything about empathy? It's a pretty normal narrative trend for protagonists not allowing revenge to control them​@@cygnusprime6728

[@MetakJesu07]

@@cygnusprime6728 Agreed. That whole mentality is just based on the position that anger can never be justified. I strongly disagree with that. Luffy punching the shit out of Charloss is one of the best moments because it's completely deserved and he should have been as angry as he was.

[@maddiea-t6n]

@@cygnusprime6728but at the same time Luffy wants to be the most free man on the sea. Having hate in your heart doesn’t exactly scream freedom to me. Luffy will still defeat them but he doesn’t have to be all edgy and shit with it which is what gear 5 haters seem to want. They want Luffy to beat them to death and exclaim “this is my revenge” but that’s not Luffy & if you have a problem with that then go read another manga

[@cygnusprime6728]

@@maddiea-t6n you can hate someone without being edgy. Luffy still doesn't like Lucci or Crocodile even tho he had to work with them a few times and never smiles at them.

[@lakraki7916]

I always appreciate your effort of analysis and wisdom on one piece but i felt like some parts of this video was unnecesarily condescending

[@novum2915]

I believe similar to how we have different Gear 4 forms we will have different Gear 5 forms, and there will be a form that is serious or the transformation happens after he sees something tragic happen

[@aliyeager51]

So we must walk and ignore the writer now because this is what he wants to do, but I hope in the final confrontations against the black beard or Akaino that there is a seriousness.

[@santo2sexy]

Gear 5th doesn't ruin tension, imo this is the standard going further in the story. We ARE at end game now, luffy needs to be this strong to compete against the strongest people (aka the only people left between him and the one piece).

[@fluffyisyermom7631]

Oda ruined tension when he made characters that should have died, live. 😂

[@jiji-ny9gi]

I mean why did he do that 😂😂😂

[@aliyeager51]

I still think that the comic tune is not good and this is not the thing that made me love Luffy in the first place, but the moments of fighting at its peak against his opponents always had a special taste.

[@LibertarianLeninistRants]

I see that you have reflected more about Wano and its writing. Is a Wano Analysis on its way? We can only hope

[@IgnorantWeed]

He said on stream he is too busy with online buissnes right now.

[@IndiaTides]

He will release wano analysis after one piece ending.

[@BryGuyJohn]

I’ve always had this suspicion/sinking feeling that Oda made Gear 5 so light-hearted because the rest of One Piece is about to get DARK AF.

[@yogrannybae5189]

Gear 5 feel like a whole new character

[@DankyApe]

Exactly. Everyone talking about it’s freedom. It looks like the fruit is taking over like the mask.

[@jiji-ny9gi]

They just coping its ruins one piece

[@UltimateGamerCC]

Teach: "Zehahahaha! it's like everybody has forgotten the power of my Darkness, i can negate this Gear 5th entirely, Straw Hat cant just overpower me. i commend him for taking out two emperors the night they were to team up, but this isnt a Dragonball situation, our final battle for the world will be historic!"

[@redcypher7]

I wonder if Luffy will really fight Akainu start to finish or if he’ll move on from him. I’d say Sabo is just as likely a candidate to fight Akainu since seeing Ace’s death is what brought his memories back, and he was just as much a brother to Ace as Luffy. So yeah I could see Luffy starting a fight vs Akainu but possibly Sabo being the one to finish it while Luffy moves on to fight Imu. And maybe that’s the solution to gear 5th vs Akainu, though I admit it would be more satisfying to see Luffy take Akainu down.

[@zackazuki]

I mean do you really think Akainu, the Strongest Man in the Marines is getting beat by a subordinate like Sabo?

[@tajaemartin2251]

​@@zackazukisabo literally only purpose in the story was to replace ace and avenge him with devil fruit, blue fire is better than magma if sabo awakens blue fire akainu dont stand a chance

[@zackazuki]

@@tajaemartin2251 Doesn't matter if he turns his fire to a hotter temp. Simply, Magma consumes fire regardless. And what ur implying is that Sabo awakens his fruit to turn blue. Well what do u think happens when Akainu awakens his fruit? Oda literally already confirmed that Akainu's fruit is superior. Anyways Sabo is too weak, he'll probably fight Charlos or something.

[@tajaemartin2251]

@@zackazuki buddy akainu not the mc, he will get defeated this is luffy show and sabo is luffy brother that will avenge ace, akainu rn cant even hurt gear 5 luffy would just laugh in face and turn his magma to rubber

[@zackazuki]

@@tajaemartin2251 he’s not but Oda is a fanboy of Akainu and said he’ll cherish him. You must be reading Two Piece if you think the Man that murdered Luffy’s brother in front of his eyes and scarred him too isnt going to be a main antagonist. Scars hold symbolism and Sabo is being set up to fight the Celestial Dragons/God Knights/Gorosei. The dichotomy in the story has always been Pirates vs Marines & Revs vs. Celestial Dragons

[@gemodemplay415]

If we need serious Luffy then base form Luffy with Haki should be enough. At this point Luffy's default is not that much weaker than Gear 5th as he would be able to do most of Gear 5th things by default. Gear 5th is more like a mood form than anything.

[@Luffymynika11]

Shoutout to Morj for addressing that horrible bagrin gun argument for how g5 could get serious for 1 attack😂

[@mynamedontmatter4796]

But isn't that an answer to the question can gear 5 be taken seriously? Yes if oda needs it he can make luffy serious biggest example is bajrang gun

[@1slayer959]

It's not a bad argument. Y'all just don't understand how story telling works

[@WickedlyChill]

Yo name 😂😂😂😂

[@UchayKaykay]

11:59​@@mynamedontmatter4796

[@adamiadamiadami]

​@@1slayer959Oh yeah. And you do, right? Elucidate me on why Big Mom's amnesia and overall role in Wano was great storytelling. Or do you think Oda can simply make mistakes as a writer?

[@hyperyami396]

I trust Oda and at this point in the story he's probably already planned out everything and revised it. The execution of this final arc with the character resolutions, final fights, mysteries revealed, world-building coming to an end, deeper themes, and tension must be done with extreme accuracy and precision or else this final saga and the ending of One Piece will go down as one of the best comic books ever made with a horrible ending. I don't think Oda will mess things up this late in the game and drop the ball with these important story payoffs we've been waiting for since pre-timeskip. The only thing that worries me is how he executes the final war and if he has the guts to kill off important and major characters, killing canon fodder means nothing and is lazy. If everybody survives it will kill the realism of the war. Second, If Oda dies before finishing One Piece, that would be soul crushing. I don't know how much he's got on his plate, but with the anime going, the live-action show getting a second season and then the remake of the anime in development, how much is he going to be consulting with all of these projects? Is he taking on too much? If Oda is heavily involved I think he's doing too much.

[@dvdivine1962]

Gear 5th is toxic positivity.

[@TheeKing7]

I don't see Luffy fighting Akainu in the future. It's more likely to be Sabo vs Akainu because I see the Marines being a part of the fight against The Celestials and Luffy has bigger fish to fry than Akainu.

[@derrickmiles5240]

The way I look at it, Luffy is coming into his role as a Yonkou. We have to ask ourselves how these fights would have played out were it Roger. Roger almost always had a smile on his face, no matter the situation. A smile that reflected the confidence of the man. When I picture Roger fighting Kaido, I see him with a smile on his face. When I picture him fighting Lucci or Kizaru, I see him with a smile on his face. Luffy carries that energy in G5.

[@ZeroCool007x]

A smile is different from laughing like you're on crack which is the problem jumping around and laughing like a maniac.

[@derrickmiles5240]

@@ZeroCool007x The laughing has effectively nothing to do with it. The effect is mostly the same. In either instance you feel that the character is confidently in control of the situation. Alleviating tension. That's the reason Zoro has a bad sense of direction. He can't be around, because we know Zoro is in control. Thus the tension is ruined by his presence in most scenarios. On Wano, Zoro had to tank a Yonkou combo attack, take some weird life threatening drug, and literally see the reaper of souls himself for the audience to feel tension in his scenes. The tension will be ratcheting up going forward, but tension is counter to the goals of Egghead right now. Egghead is a saga opener. All One Piece saga openers end with a complete victory over a superior force. Shells Town, Whiskey Peak, Fishman Island. In each of these cases the overwhelming victory was meant to impress a nakama, and earn their respect. I believe that is again the case. Luffy, going forward, will act more like Zoro, being a kind of tension switch, at least until Blackbeard and probably Imu. BB can take away his powers, and Imu might be able to do something similar. And Luffy may not even fight Akainu. I'd honestly prefer if Sabo fought Akainu, because revenge as a character motivation doesn't really suit Luffy.

[@zero1188]

raid failed morj would have more tension

[@nkhuwachiti1976]

This is a wild take but I believe the Akainu fight will involve Sabo as well. The mera mera no mi has to be instrumental in him being defeated and Sabo being there can make for some serious moments without taking away too much from gear 5th

[@Dialga355]

This is a wild take. Proceeds to give the most vanilla take in the universe.

[@rubberman3226]

​@@Dialga355wild take for adimrals fans

[@rellrylio5567]

Gear 5 was introduced an arc or two too early. Luffy didn’t need to get 3 power ups in one arc. The story should have been written so that Advanced Armament was enough to beat Kaido. Then I’m egghead he and Zoro get advanced Conc. Then the arc after that he gets gear 5. Should have been… WCI he learns advanced Observation. Wano he learns advanced Armament. Egghead he learns advanced Conc. Next arc gear 5.

[@matthewgilroy8701]

Bro said the emotional foundation for Luffy vs Kaido wasn't there. Brother, did you watch episode 1015 with that Luffy and Kinemon scene?💀

[@rhtamim7351]

That one line from him basically makes every point he made fall apart. Yeah Peeps, Luffy was going to Onigashima to have a jolly good time with Kaido 😂

[@zaynali5588]

It was not same as Enies Lobby or Nami moment where his friends were in danger thats when Luffy gets real mad vs Kaido i never felt the same tension and Morj has seen episode 1015 thats his favourite episode

[@novum2915]

He doesn't watch the anime

[@matthewgilroy8701]

@novum2915 the scene was in the manga (chapter 1000)

[@Eyoballin]

Kaido is just a mindless stong brute with no apparent motivations. There is no character that was explored by him so what is there to feel emotion from? Maybe it'd be fine if Oda didn't constantly hint to there being more to him, then blueballing at the end. At this point even if he reveals more to him later the moment has already passed for alot of readers to care

[@lev1doeseverything]

If you think one piece is black and white, watch his enies lobby analysis video or his how oda rights video then you’ll understand

[@saukka159]

First, love the video, love the way you explain every arguments, it always feels constructed and well thought. The only thing is I don't really understand is how comedy and tension are antithesis, specificaly in one piece. Like obviousy, Luffy's been serious in most/all of his fights but there usually still are elements of comedy put into them (he did beat up a god with a bell and blow air into his skeleton to make is arms bigger, if that's not absurd comedy Idk what is). And no one can deny that comedy is use to break tension, but saying that they can't coexist or build up from each other isn't correct ; one piece is filled with examples of comedy breaks uping the overall tension of a fight (mostly Nami and Ussop's fights, like Nami vs Miss Doublefinger, Ussop vs Peronna, etc.). Besides, the entire concept of Luffy's power is to be a comedic stance in the world of shonen, he's just a guy made of rubber punching people. His powers have always been a gag from day one. Although, as the arcs passed, his power started to be taken more seriously (thanks the power ups) up until marineford and after the time skip with his usage of haki, where his fights kinda lost the comedic element to be just 100% serious. So I feel like gear 5 really is a back to basics but in a much larger scale. I don't think that the overall comedy of gear 5 is also 100% tension breaker ; we have to remember that those fights don't happen in a void, they have a larger context. Idk, it feels weird to say that they were no tension in Luffy gear 5 vs Kaido considering that Luffy was the only thing blocking Kaido from destroying most people on Onigashima. Likewise, saying that there is no tension surrounding Luffy's fights in Egghead is wild, like the entire island is a battlefield (and I understand the bajarang gun argument, but the sole fact that this moment exist kind of contradict the whole argument, saying that gear 5 can't be serious because it only happened one is weird, cause it obviously can be serious, it already happened once). To end this rambling, I think Luffy should fight all of the big opponents from now on with gear 5 ; it's the culmination of Luffy's ideology given a figthing form, it's his wish for freedom that allowed the awakening of Nika and it would be poetic justice that the God of the Sun, warrior of freedom beat all the figures that stand against freedom (and even Blackbeard, it might be possible to use gear 5 against him cause we've seen with Law that a strong haki can negate the effect of a devil fruit, and therefore Luffy might be able to simply negate Blackbeard's power).

[@maddiea-t6n]

Completely agree with you. The idea that tension and comedy can’t coexist is such a surface level concept to me. There’s so many examples of them coexisting in OP. Like you said, the stakes were high. If g5 Luffy didn’t beat Kaido then Kaido would’ve turned all the people of Wano to slaves and the whole country into a weapons factory. Yeah Luffy was goofy but it was still tense when you realise Luffy was the one keeping that from happening. I mean we can go all the way back to skypea where in order to not be stabbed, Luffy literally just turned his brain off 😭 it was high stakes, again an entire island on the line and Luffy turned his fucking brain off lmao. It was funny but also tense, especially after seeing Alabasta & knowing that Oda is not against Luffy a) being stabbed and b) actually losing a fight. One of the most tense fights for Luffy was against Lucci, his crewmate and friend’s fate being on the line and in that same fight he used gear 3 and turned tiny and then tried to punch Lucci but couldn’t reach. It was funny but at the same time tense, at least for me, because I was thinking ‘how is Luffy going to defend himself in that state?’. Comedy is often used to decrease tension or completely diffuse it but as we’ve seen multiple times, they can coexist. I think people are also underestimating the power of comedy for actually creating tension. Like you said, we have seen Luffy get serious and Morj can say all he wants that it was only once, but it happened and so can happen again. It’s a lot more impactful for Luffy to be goofy and joking around and then something to happen that causes him to get serious, than Luffy being serious the whole time and then just getting a bit more serious after whatever happens. Thats so much more tense and affective than what these g5 haters seem to what, which is Luffy to be an edgelord

[@pain2573]

This discourse is straight up dumb. Here’s a 100% accurate prediction, Gear 5 luffy will face struggles. Y’all don’t think Oda isn’t toying with the “How would G5 Luffy react to something really bad happening?” G5 haters have no patience for or faith in Oda. And Oda isn’t obligated to show that tension early either. Let him tell his story at his pace.

[@niluhasan1324]

Nika brings people joy and laughter but people wants nika to be angry and furious 🦧

[@davidrowntree8250]

This might be a hot take but I have zero issues with Gear 5 taking on Akainu. Luffy and the straw hats are the symbol of joy and hope in the One Piece world. They've delivered it everywhere they've been. They literally end every arc with a party. Having Gear 5 Luffy trample his biggest personal enemies such as Blackbeard and Akainu, would be a beautifully fitting way to do it given the themes Luffy represents. seeing Luffy seriously look them in the eye and decide to turn to Gear 5th in order to overcome them could be seen as him accepting his trauma and overcoming them with his own nature. Which is kinda perfect. That said I wouldn't be surprised to see a Gear 5 stage 2 which allows Luffy to maintain some of his usual traits whilst in Gear 5

[@justinn8541akaDrPokemon]

Imagine if Luffy did use Gear 5 on Akainu. If written well, it could symbolize he's not focused on Ace(completely at least) and is trying to protect what he has.

[@Rando3210]

I don't think luffy will fight akainu, it will either be sabo or maybe dragon, but probably sabo. Its the perfect inverse for what happened at marineford, and it could show a possible flame flame fruit awakening.

[@faefriend5702]

Ya'll forget that people hated gear 4 for years. Until snake man people were constantly upset about how goofy boundman looked. Yes, Luffy gets serious, but one piece is a series where Oda cares more about adventure and fun than anything else. It's supposed to be a fun manga for fucking children Whats more is we are at Luffy at his peak. The fights don't need to have the same level of tension because Luffy is no longer the underdog. He's a yonko now. He is a top fighter now. We're never going to get Luffy at that level again because he is past it

[@mokaljordan]

I personally love gear 5, once you recognize that gear 5 is a conduit for oda to draw as freely as possible with the intention for it to be a tension killer and to break the 4th wall to have the readers laugh its all good,the only thing i dont like about it is too many eye popping reaction shots,its geting old but the more wacky things luffy does with it the better and it makes the contrast more powerful the more despair there is prior or during gear 5 shenanigans. The ppl that have bad faith arguments with gear 5 either are used to the shounen standard and dont like how goofy it is or wanna put oda in a box in how he needs to draw a battle manga

[@microvan1234]

Even with akainu, I feel like there’s a certain bit of poetic justice with defeating someone who’s so serious with toon force. Akainu takes himself super seriously so being defeated by joyboy doing joyboy things will feel like an extra layer of insult

[@sebastianmartinez5508]

Yes, imagine Akainu turned into a balloon

[@rubberman3226]

​@@sebastianmartinez5508Nah a donut

[@frankierosario6981]

I can’t wait to see luffy vs Lucci gear 5 is badass imagine fighting a mf and while your focused on fighting and winning the mf ur fighting is laughing and having a blast while beating your ass that’s demoralizing

[@GroutMobile]

Hype is the one HUGE reason I watch one piece. And to me Gear 5 is the most hype gear to see on panel. So gear 5 doesn’t change anything tension wise for me at least. One piece in general does not have much tension, as we know luffy will never die until he finds the one piece. So to me the only thing that changes is tone but even then the hype is what I notice not the tone shift.

[@tonys7246]

Good point. Tension is never really the strong suit of Shonen anime when 90% of the time all characters have plot armor

[@GroutMobile]

@@tonys7246 exactly morj goes about reading the story assuming luffys gonna die against kizaru? Like no obviously not luffy is gonna live

[@albinjohnsson2511]

One Piece has tons of tension. It's not just a question of "will they make it?" but also "HOW on earth will they make it?". Unfortunately, the tension is not captured by the anime, due to the horrible pacing. Reading it is a very different experience.

[@GroutMobile]

@@albinjohnsson2511 I’ve read and watched multiple time and I mean no me and you both know luffy ain’t dying. Even when he DIED I was reading week to week and knew he was gonna live. This just proves that luffy ain’t ever dying even if it seems like he will. Creating a lack of tension. But I love one piece it’s my favorite manga ever no hate

[@issh0]

That title got my attention lol

[@OnePiece23463]

That title got my atTension lol

[@issh0]

@@OnePiece23463👏🏽👏🏽

[@cn2646]

Usually the joyous characters have the best rage moments. Edit: Gon from hxh Mob from mob psycho (not really joyous but peaceful at heart)

[@sushantjha4386]

Well as a gear 5th admirer and a person who loved Mister Oda's creativity and the idea and as the person who thought about it for days I have had so many arguments like this and had to correct them all . All of my points and arguments were not much different . And really that Akainu fight has really been bothering me for quite some time . But if you ask me I don't mind Luffy being silly and goofy while fighting the enimies he had no emotional conflict with . The only thing that worries me about the future fight with Akainu . But I trust Mr. Oda so let's see what he has planned for us .

[@WaterKirby1994]

I'm expecting Sabo to fight Akainu with it inverting Marineford somehow such as having Luffy save Sabo the same way Ace saved him only for Gear 5 to completely change the outcome.

[@StardustMonkey]

I think that the seriousness and the superiority complex of people like kaido and the gorosei/imu is perfect to contrast with gear 5th… I think Oda final message and what the one piece is is going to all relate to a solution to what is the meaning of life and it’s going to be essentially that all the seriousness and titles like king of the world, pirate king, greatest swordsman… these are going to be achieved and then realization that it’s all not serious the universe life and death is not serious… I think all of the research into Hanuman led Oda to reading the Gita with Krishna the laughing warrior god who smiles while decapitating gods… these figures can’t take things seriously because it’s all an illusion and fleeting. Only fools think they can kill people or control the world that is also an illusion. Seems Oda is heading there with all this about inherited will … reincarnated ancient weapons … the highest form of haki being something that conquers the illusion of existence and creates its own way… the power of love defeating even brain death/whatever the buccaneers can do

[@miles5361]

The tension of the series has took its greatest downturn during Wano and hasn’t returned yet. There’s barely any situations where I’m thinking “how is this going to turn out”

[@victorquinones3086]

Kinda chippy in the video Morj. What happened? Did the fan base triggered you my friend. Excellent video, regardless.

[@steathblacksakyo3244]

If the sun God isn't laughing then all hope is lost.

[@pedrol.decarvalho8408]

The problem is not G5 itself, but how Oda is spamming it without consequences to the character.

[@AstroPeezy]

That's crazy. I feel HELLA tension from this situation. Its still a huge wall that Luffy has to overcome, and I'm here to see how he does it Yes, he does silly things during fights, but that doesn't take away from the seriousness of the antagonistic/opponent, which is why the tension is still there for me

[@Nemu692]

The idea of Gear 5 imo is that characters like Imu and Gorosei deserve to be humaliated and laughed at, they don't deserve a "super serious fight".

[@cvox607]

The argument that luffy fights have always been silly pisses me off because yeah he goofed around here and there but when it's time to clock in he's as serious as it gets You don't get moments like enies lobby jet gatling climax with eye popping and silly faces And it's why no fight climax has ever surpassed that scene

[@strykervirus1724]

Watch out bud. They might hit you with the "it was too edgy" argument.

[@re_striker3431]

Nothing that serious has happened to warrant that reaction from g5 luffy.

[@TheElectrikCow]

I still don't know if I completely subscribed to Luffy fighting Akainu, at least not to fulfiltion anyways. I like the idea that Akainu and Dragon have some ancient beef and Dragon will be the one to take down Akainu.

[@1slayer959]

Gear 5th can and has had tension in it's combat. We know it's not invincible as luffy at best stalemated kizaru. And tension doesn't mean the characters need to be 100% serious

[@paulosena584]

If I wasn’t willing to embrace the change that G5 brings to the story I’d drop it entirely. I can’t root for a MC that I don’t like.

[@baneblade__]

I don't feel that Gear 5 ruins the tension, I feel it flips the tension on it's head Instead of the tension coming from Luffy fighting a terrifying villain, the tension comes from a villain having to fight a terrifying Luffy

[@Pradeep_889]

I was growing weary of the serious fights involving Luffy. He is at his best when he's acting goofy. That's his true nature.

[@Eyoballin]

I'm assuming Enies lobby and Marineford must be in your bottom 5 arcs then. Too edgy and not enough goofiness

[@kappachino335]

@@Eyoballin Was CP9 turning into the animal kingdom not goofy enough?

[@Pradeep_889]

@@Eyoballin Occasional serious fights are fine. It shouldn't be the same theme for every fight he engages in.

[@Eyoballin]

@@kappachino335 The fights were generally mostly serious with a moderate amount of goofy tones that made it enjoyable. However the inverse, mostly goofy with a serious panel here or there, for me is much less enjoyable, at least for the main fight. Its fine against a tobiroppo or whatever

[@information3084]

It's the annoying laughter with Luffy holding his head that gets it. It's just ... random laughter when everything is serious.

[@Gamerlord17]

The biggest issue for me with gear 5 is that it just makes everything a joke and not everything needs to be goofy and silly and it doesn't make me a fake fan of OP because I like the more serious stuff. This power up can have all the foreshadowing it wants but it still ruins luffys fights in my opinion.

[@MrItachi121]

Bad faith arguments full of logical fallacies smh you're better than this Morj🤦🏿‍♂️

[@Darkrengi]

I feel like following the destruction of lulusia and the tragedy of Bonnie and kuma, one piece is about to get darker. So Oda introduced gear 5 as a light in that darkness