The Gear 5 Dilemma: Can Fights Ever Be Serious Again?

[@MrMorj]

I see some people commenting before seeing the video saying that "Oda can just make Gear 5th serious and dramatic". The point of this discussion is that this is something we have not yet seen done effectively in the same manner as past fights, as Gear 5th is inherently incongruent with that style of writing. See 14:00 - 17:10.

[@alextihor1190]

just want to say this is the biggest question that worries me since the kaido fight. Im really looking forward to watching this tyy. Edit: Commenting on the actual video, I still want to see luffy getting more serious in fights with big names. I feel like gear 5 puts those enemies in a situation where they cant help but look goofy against luffys abilites, and thats a disservice to them as characters. I dont want to see big faces turned into laughing stock.

[@Blindbarber699]

That’s why gear fifth sucks ass One piece is no longer a tragicomedy. It’s just a comedy at this point

[@1slayer959]

On the point where luffy stated he'd continue gear 5. Look at his face when he names people to motivate himself. Momo Tama And out of no where Pedro... Luffy lingers on the name of a dead man. And he's in gear 5. Still smiling but with the words of a deadman on his lips, the smile momentarily appears darker. Almost like it's hiding a great rage. Because it is. Gear 5 seems to apply a laughing debuff to luffy that, being who he is. Luffy embraces. But he's still luffy under it. Yes his combat is more comedic, but to say there's no seriousness at all is refusing to look beyond surface level

[@sneedfeed7204]

The Gear 5th dilemma really only concerns Akainu - an inevitable matchup that would require a tense and serious tone. We all knew that Blackbeard had the power to negate G5. Kinda disappointing that you glossed over Akainu

[@bryancee]

Mork!

[@grizzlyadams8277]

I feel like the Foxy fight is the ultimate refutation of the idea that Luffy’s fights were always just goofy and we don’t need to worry about drama. The Davy Back Fight was easily the goofiest arc, the goofiest premise, and the goofiest enemy Luffy has ever faced. But yet, by the ending exchange of that fight Luffy is deathly serious about winning.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Exactly!!? 👊👊✊✊👏👏

[@tavoiradio7667]

That’s exactly why I didn’t like that fight. I just can’t accept that luffy would struggle as much like with crocodile for that fight with such a non-threatening character. The juxtaposition doesn’t work for me in that regard, it felt like oda had to much of his hand on the scale in that regard. Davyback was entertaining but talking foxy seriously was tedious.

[@star-rock6466]

@@tavoiradio7667 meh, each has their opinions I guess, this fight was fine for me

[@grizzlyadams8277]

@@tavoiradio7667 It’s not that the fight was necessarily that difficult for Luffy. It’s about the stakes of the fight. If Luffy lost then he loses a member of his crew. As far as Luffy is concerned even a weak enemy should be taken seriously if one of his friends is on the line. Also the seriousness of the Foxy fight has the important effect of reminding us just how far Luffy will go for his friends, right before throwing the reader into the W7/EL saga where the bonds of the crew would be tested more than ever before.

[@Shark-hn4mv]

I'm sorry but this is hard cope. Look at what you said. "The ending exchange." Yeah, the ending exchange was good. We're talking about the full fight. Foxy arc is constantly rated among the worst precisely because most of it was goofing around. The ending being serious couldn't fix that. You literally went to one of the worst arcs to justify. That says a lot.

[@blindswordsman27]

The panel where Luffy grabs the lighting bolt is a good example of how Gear 5 can still look menacing, eventhough Luffy is smiling and being creative. Gear 5 offers a lot of flexibility, so I'm not too worried Oda is unable to convey a darker tone during the more serious moments. In fact, I think that smiling during moments of dispare is exactly the philosophical point behind Gear 5, it's not a contradiction to seriousness. Smiling doensn't mean Luffy is unconcerned, it just means he'll use spark of joy to fuel his attacks when everyone else has lost hope

[@justaway6901]

Gear 5th Luffy is menacing. The video is more about the tone of the fight in relation to Luffy demeanor in Gear 5

[@TyRendition]

Yep it almost like the warrior of liberation is hopeful that he'll succeed xD

[@ShotRage]

"he laughed"

[@blindswordsman27]

@@justaway6901 Right, but I'm arguing that the idea that a serious tone can only occur when Luffy's demeanour is no longer silly, may be bit outdated. I think joy, hope and love will be essential for Luffy to overcome the most dire situations where all hope is lost (i.e. the moments when the tone is most dark and serious). It's similar to how (morbid) humor can help people cope when they deal with a lot of death and dispare (happens a lot with doctors/soldiers). When Blackbeard darkens the sky, Luffy won't defeat him with rage and hate, he instead will shine as bright as the sun with his laughter and joy. At least, that's how I imagine it lol

[@rhondahoward8025]

@@blindswordsman27 Well said.

[@SASJinno]

Akainu is the only fight I feel is inevitable in some capacity that you didn’t touch on. Luffy absolutely has built up animosity against him, and it’s an area where Oda will need to worry about the tonal interplay.

[@nicholasalexander9866]

Yeah that fight shouldn’t have much gags on it

[@marri991]

That fight might not happen tho, I kinda feel like sabo is going to be the one taking on akainu. Since when akainu fought ace he said that magma is hotter than flames, it’ll be a fitting vendetta for sabo to avenge ace, as he is the flame emperor and nothing is hotter than the flame emperor’s fire.

[@userusernomi]

@@marri991 Yeah, it might happen that Luffy is heading towards the Gorousei or Im and Akainu stands in his way, but then Sabo takes the fight away as Luffy has bigger fish to fry and they both technically have the same vendetta against Akainu. I think Luffy vs Akainu is 50/50, not a guaranteed fight at all.

[@ReturnOfGodEnel]

Only a clash is guaranteed

[@sneedfeed7204]

@@marri991 Sabo has no ill feelings towards Akainu, and he has not shown interest in avenging Ace. Besides It would be unprecedented, as a side character has never fought the leader of faction in One piece.

[@pawjabes2847]

i can see luffy use cartoon-ish powers in an absolutely serious and non-comical manner. toon force can absolutely go very dark in my mind

[@Ebola-Kun]

Didn’t he go inside of Kaidou’s eye holes- totally funny- very disturbing

[@mbsissef8815]

The fist that goes into kaido's rubber face has done some braindamage

[@MugenHeadNinja]

@@Ebola-Kun I still wish we could've gotten internal thoughts from Kaido, I really wanna know what was running through his mind while fighting Gear 5th Luffy. Dude probably lost all sense of what was reality and what is and isn't possible.

[@Azubjourni]

@@MugenHeadNinja No he adjusted to it until bajrang gun, he had toon force before Luffy because of all the crazy things he has. Dont know anybody comparable tho.

[@Aether_GM]

There has never been tension in gear 5, even at the end of wano. I'd have to force myself to view it as something other than what it is.

[@cozmyx25]

Imagine an emotionally heartbreaking moment like Aces death, but Luffy has gear 5 and makes a jumping rope out of Akainu lol

[@bencegergohocz5988]

Exactly... the moment when Sentomaru almost got his ass murdered and Luffy just made a joke out of it was the straw that broke the camels back for me. I fucking hate this form and andone who claims Luffy was never serious is just a lier.

[@ohreally5610]

Honestly the scene where Luffy is crying after Axe’s death is one of the worst supposed ‘tragic’ scenes I’ve ever seen in manga-probably the worst tbh. Oda is terrible at moderating tone. Terrible.

[@beastinfection638]

@@ohreally5610 Yeah that scene was goofy asf

[@Slemme24]

@@bencegergohocz5988 How did he make a joke out of it? He showed legitimate concern for him. Or did you just mean his eyes popping out?

[@bencegergohocz5988]

@@Slemme24 if you don't even get the problem with that, you might just be more tone dead than Oda himself... To be fair, Oda has been terrible at this for like a decade. It got to the point thqt noone even believed real deaths since everyone just assumes they are sh-it a-ss fakeouts but somhow oda managed to make it worse... The question is not wether this fictional entity "Luffy" that doesn't actually exists was concerned or not. Where you? No... of vourse you weren't. I mean, sure, the fact thqt Luffy did a loony toons on someone who is bleeding out is agrevating by itself for anyone who have been in a situation of watching someone die but that's not the main issue (tho it does make lime look like a dips-hit). Let's not even talk about Kaido... The man went out like a loony toons villain despite being a straith up sla-ver... Btw, please don't even try to pull the "one piece/Luffy was always goofy" bs. You know very well that death and sla-very was treated seriously. I can point you the shabondy stawhat vs kuma scenes, the time when the wolves were about to kill Mr.2 in impell down, on amazon lily when Hancock turned Margaret and the others into stone, the f-ing sl-ave action scene when Luffy punches Charlos, etc. Luffy is the sevond shounen protagonist in the 12 year of me reading manga who earned a "Get the f-uck off my screen!" From me and that's after being a fan for f-ucking 11 years.

[@bigbangpegasusmaster]

an interesting part is also that in that short time Luffy ran out of G5 against Kaido, he actually turned really serious for a second

[@sakura5sango6]

He was really serious BEFORE going G5 too, even getting mad at Kaido for his "drunk old man move". It was so rare! xDDD

[@bluedream2493]

" by the time am done with you, all thats left is your bones "

[@nhp5067]

@@sakura5sango6 “are you having fun Kaido?” Was pre gear 5. That fight definitely lacked intensity for me.

[@marocat4749]

And if g makes him more silly but he gets to get serious like after the first moments, he can be serious , focised and creative

[@sakura5sango6]

@@nhp5067 They were having fun, that's for sure, but at the moment it was LUFFY (of all people) who was taking it seriously. Both things aren't exclusive of each other! n.n

[@iampierce7474]

I think the seriousness in the final blow against Kaido is likely a way of showing that when it comes down to it and it’s important, he can overcome the will of Nika and get serious

[@KatsuImagitian]

Easy solution let's see how it's implemented in combat more. It's literally only been showcased twice. The literal first showcase with Kaido and a admittedly one sided fight against Lucci where Luffy was clearly not trying that hard. I'd say G5 is going to be the go to transformation for the more ridiculous feats of strength the endgame adversaries will be pulling up that Luffy will have to contend. The cartoonish abilities can lead to feats and creative applications we'd normally think Luffy couldn't pull off naturally without Awakening.

[@travisealy3512]

Thank you. We need to see gear 5 when he’s going against someone he actually needs to try against and someone who will have him on the ropes

[@travisealy3512]

@@Aether_GM he said he didn’t try against lucci lmaooo. All he’s saying is there hasn’t been about fights with gear 5 yet in serious situations. At the end of the kaido fight luffy was very serious it just was short so it’s hard to judge. Until we get a full fight against a top tier with g5 it’s hard to pick a side imo

[@TyRendition]

@@travisealy3512 true but kaido gives us a good glimpse that if you can counter his ability he can and will get serious.

[@travisealy3512]

@@TyRendition I agree which is why fighting against someone who is a top tier is important for that tension

[@OracleTruth24]

I'm surprised you didn't bring up Akainu as a particularly emotional confrontation for Luffy. He is, after all, the antagonist that kills Luffy's brother right in front of him, inflicting severe emotional and physical trauma. Even if Luffy is not going to land the final hit, not having them face off would be a huge missed opportunity.

[@jackjacques7495]

Luffy will definitely face Akainu at some point, but I feel people should at least start considering the possibility that he's not going to be the one to have a full fight with him and take him down, and that that role, may go to Sabo.

[@nickjohnson02]

@@jackjacques7495 why would Luffy let the guy who killed ace, left huge x scar on his chest and literally broke his willpower ... And gave that fight to sabo? The guy who never mention of vengeance to akainu whatsoever ?

[@driguesbarcellos]

what he says akainu at the very start even before black beard

[@3dsmaster537]

The 17th opening even has them clash for fanservice purposes

[@jackroberts2704]

@@jackjacques7495 It makes more sense for them to team-up against Akainu. They're both his brothers and each carry his will in different ways.

[@GomuGear4]

Oh wow I just realized that Gear 5 is basically a defective smile fruit as far as the personality goes. From that point of view I think Oda could still make us feel the underlying anger or tragedy even if Luffy is laughing through it or has a smile on his face, because he proved he could do just that through Toko. I wouldn't be surprised if that was intentional that Oda introduced both in the same arc

[@snowarmth]

Insightful, sharp comment :) Thank you!

[@AnityEx]

good comment

[@Truck-kun11]

I can't wait for Gear 5 to appear in the anime, since it's practically Toon Force, there's no better media than Animation to show everything it's capable of

[@albertogonzalez1937]

Also the anime will stretch the fight more

[@niranjannair390]

@@albertogonzalez1937 yes "stretch" indeed.

[@ZetaMoolah]

@@albertogonzalez1937*proceeds to Double Dutch Kaido*

[@3dsmaster537]

I especially can't wait for the sound effects and music for it

[@sarov7658]

@@albertogonzalez1937 yup stretch lik sanji vs King/queen filling on mangas L and bettering it

[@Truck-kun11]

The idea of ​​Luffy normally being a happy, carefree guy but being the complete opposite during serious moments being such a standout follows the same logic as why moments where a character goes "Berserk" are so popular, like Naruto using the Nine-Tails Chakra for the first time or Ichigo as Vasto Lord, etc... The extreme contrast helps to intensify the seriousness and meaning of the scene.

[@MMACazual]

Yeah I just see it like he was joking round and being serious but later knows its quite literally all or nothing

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Exactly!!! 👊👊✊✊👏👏

[@TyRendition]

True but we gotten so many of those moments where it becomes a typical shonen troupe while G5 is changing the troupe by reinforcing the character of Luffy instead of changing him.

[@Shark-hn4mv]

@@TyRendition, something becoming a trope doesn't change anything. Things become a trope because they work. Saying "Luffy's form is Luffy being true to himself" doesn't negate the fact that it takes away tension from a lot of readers.

[@TyRendition]

​@@Shark-hn4mv The thing is that isnt confirmed ppl who are afraid are doing it based off a skepticism due to g5 nature, morj literally in this video says g5 got serious at the end of the battle with kaido who already was pretty much knew going to go down the moment we all saw the form. The next time we saw g5 it was against someone who wasnt even a threat so there no real evidence it takes away tension. There nothing wrong with a trope im saying that oda is trying to change it up and says himself he'll try his best to incorporate g5 as best he can in his interview with the detective conan author.

[@KBhunterx262]

Haven't finished the vid yet, but I think Luffy is going to begin controlling Gear 5. The personality he takes on is that of the Sun God because Zoan fruits have their own personalities. Just imagine if he goes into the Akainu fight, when he's trying to get revenge, while laughing

[@Thousandaxe]

That sounds like a really good idea. It's like Luffy eats a smile fruit every time he goes into G5. He's trying to be serious but he just can't.

[@flavio100ideia]

That's my take on it as well.

[@jellymatsuryuka6853]

This issue can be easily solved if Oda decides that G5 can only be used when Luffy doesn't have too much to worry about/is confident in the fight and trying to enter G5 while having strong emotions will just end up in failure.

[@TheCreed1217]

@@jellymatsuryuka6853 that just sounds like the same bad logic that toyotaro established for Ultra Instinct that again can easily just be ignored at a moments convenience by the author because that just limits Luffy's strongest ability. When at this point in the story the last thing he needs is an artificial nerf cap, people just gotta accept it for what it is.

[@vojtechtesar5767]

TRUE!! And don´t forget about the fact that gear 6th is not only speculated about but was hinted at by Oda in a SBS.

[@rfipahy]

We see gear 5 as wacky, but all his opponents feel is pain

[@rupertgordonii6623]

True haha

[@azureskybox3024]

True😂😂

[@azureskybox3024]

Though sometimes I feel as though making the opponent elastic actually reduces the damage. Perhaps he just needs to coat it in haki to do the trick.

[@jackjacques7495]

From what we've seen, I think making his opponents elastic when he hits them seems to cause even more damage, as Kaido himself seed to feel a lot of pain from those attacks in particular, and single one made Lucci vomit a lot of blood and black out.

[@Vaul.]

@@azureskybox3024 I feel like it’s not the punch that does damage in that situation but the force of your flesh turning from rubber back into meat in a bent state

[@shadegazelle8080]

I definitely think Akainu is just as, if not more, personal than Blackbeard

[@nowwhat6716]

Definitely more

[@kingsoindabuildin8036]

I don't get why Luffy would even want to fight blackbeard , there's nothing there between the two characters and he didn't kill Ace

[@neuro1073]

@@kingsoindabuildin8036 but he is the sole reason Ace was captured.

[@klol-ld8jr]

@@kingsoindabuildin8036 it’s because of him that ace even died though

[@onlymyself1234]

Luffy turning Akainu into a joke as Akainu fails to break him mentally is perfect imo Luffy is the freest man of the sea, he already got over Ace's death, the scar is healed, and he carries his will, unimpeded, and he trounces Akainu by putting down the rabid dog.

[@poemirtiza]

I think Blackbeard having the ability to remove devil fruit powers is setup as to have the final battle between him and Luffy be serious. If that doesn’t happen I think in serious battles, he’ll be more “godly” like turning into a giant and throwing lightning bolts during the Kaido fight.

[@clay_freespirit]

Oh for sure!! I hypothesize that, just as Luffy has the same dream as Roger that we don't know exactly what it is, that Blackbeard also has a dream like that.

[@DreamScene1st]

Hope blackbeards haki is ready

[@clay_freespirit]

@@DreamScene1st Lol. can he really have that strong conqueror's if he plays dirty?

[@adammarx4467]

"I think" Bro morj literally said this in the video 💀

[@Farisss11]

but, if luffy haki is far stronger, teach df is useless

[@kennethcampbell1934]

When Big Mom was eating her cake, the scene was tense despite the musical. It would be cool if Oda could do the same with Luffy vs Akainu where Luffy is laughing while pummeling him. I'm not sure if it would serve the story, but it would be cool if the reader saw Luffy as a scary monster.

[@DaMeLoFeLo]

I think it will be sabo vs akainu

[@sakura5sango6]

I don't think that fits for Luffy. It seems incredibly cruel and sadistic. We can see him as a monster in other ways, but I don't think a hero written like him, specifically, could get along well with this particular idea :s

[@Andrei-sm3er]

@@sakura5sango6 I agree but Luffy is not a "hero"

[@Not_obligated2care]

@@Andrei-sm3er he may not be one but his point still stands, people often start getting the wrong idea about luffy and Mis- characterizing him.

[@sakura5sango6]

@@Andrei-sm3er You know what I mean, I thought I didn't have to clear that up! xD He HAS values and ethic and I just don't see him being so violently sadistic EVEN with Akainu or BB, who are the only ones that he probably has a grudge against to this day. He's a "hero" in that he's the MC and is a ray of sunshine (yes, even if they're pirates and they believe people can be cruel in that life and all, but they just AREN'T like that), that's what I meant. But I didn't want to include all this paragraph to explain it ;-;

[@guardiantree8879]

Luffy’s final clash with Kaido was very serious, I think G5 can be serious because of those moments where he was calling on Momo to carry the island.

[@ohreally5610]

No it was not. A lot of people are commenting this but others like myself resd the chapters too-no it was not.

[@donterrius]

@@ohreally5610 for you it wasnt for you

[@shamefuldisplay9692]

​@@ohreally5610Just because they werent scowling at eachother the whole time doesnt mean they werent putting everything they got into each punch.

[@lucasporto9285]

@@ohreally5610 have you re-read wano? I was kinda mad about gear 5 (and I still am to a degree) but the fight definitely takes a serious turn by the end. Also, first encounter with gear 5 for us and for luffy too, I would gess things will change once he gets used to to it

[@dickbags75]

​@@ohreally5610it was. He got serious and punched Kaido to the depths of the earth.

[@joedunkelberg5054]

I think even though we haven't seen it be super serious yet, we kinda have to trust Oda to know how to handle this, which isn't that hard considering he's done it so well for the entire rest of the story that has been able to either use gags to great effect in fights or put them aside when the time is right. I think the fights can still be made serious, we just haven't seen it come out yet.

[@Ryroe]

Arlong and Enel fights come to mind

[@TyRendition]

the thing is he already gotten serious the 1046-1049 luffy was very serious against kaido after he adjusted to g5

[@orbboom6119]

The fights are gonna start goofy but will go more serious as the fight goes on, and will end seriously like with Kaido, simple as that.

[@azureskybox3024]

Exactly. Which is why Oda is a genius. He is going to pull something unexpected and yet it will feel natural at that point. Our observation haki simply can't do the trick. The current battle royal structure speaks volumes. I doubt anyone saw it coming...

[@justaway6901]

@@azureskybox3024 "Pull something unexpected" Lol yeah. For better or for worse

[@mello7535]

Once BB steps into Luffy's boundaries i am confident the tone will shift and even somebody as carefree as Luffy in that form will start to fold under BB's actions and have some serious moments

[@juliusmardelacruz4284]

it is because of this ass pull power-up (gear 5/ prodigy/ chosen one) to defeat Kaido is just a band-aid solution. Now it creates a long-term problem for one piece. Every villain will be inevitably compared to kaido on a power scale. How can you call someone the "strongest creature" only to find out there are more people stronger than him.

[@MrBassem95]

Something I love about the Arlong fight is that Luffy didn’t listen to Nami’s backstory, he just picks up the pen and sees her blood on it. Something simple like Arlong is hurting my navigator ended all notion of comedy in the fight. I believe it’ll be the same when it comes to Blackbeard and Akainu

[@gaogaigarfinal6]

But even if luffy decides to get serious in gear 5th, the way his faces and combat moves have all been shown are clearly meant to be solely goofy. To a point where I don’t see luffy doing his serious glare in a fight in G5. When I saw G5 luffy use kaidos as a jump rope I honestly completely checked out of the fight.

[@kr6productions]

Nah he'll be angry with Akainu from the get go

[@Not_obligated2care]

@@gaogaigarfinal6 I disagree I can see luffy doing his serious glare with a smile

[@ThePizza28]

One piece is comedic for a few panels every few chapter mostly during arc setups. People who say "one piece fights are comedic" are looking at 3 panels of a few early fights and purposefully ignoring what we spent 30 chapters onto : Deadly serious battle.

[@danfiel]

Akainu vs Luffy seems like something that needs to happen with seriousness.

[@infini0000]

Something that was highlighted recently was that Rob Lucci had completely overcome the threat of his zoan awakening's will overcoming his own - which we've seen in the Impel Down Zoans can leave the user pretty vegetative and mindless. With how Luffy behaved during his fight with Kaido and how out of control he seems to be when using Gear 5, I wonder if Luffy lacks that same discipline and control over his devil fruit and if he is yet to impose his will over the joyful state of mind it puts him in.

[@lucasporto9285]

I am 100% with this theory. Maybe not discipline, but familiarity... The awakening in wano was "forced" by death. Luffy had NO IDEA what was happening at that point

[@user-dv4rh2my1x]

Oda screwed his series up

[@omkarcharati8930]

What an amazing video, this is the sort of content where I feel like Morj really is at his best, such well-thought out insights and themes, yup, this is why I'm subscribed. Edit: holy shit just reached the Blackbeard part, that's fucking genius, thanks for making me notice this it's so dope

[@kingsoindabuildin8036]

Can someone explain why Luffy would fight Blackbeard ? I really don't get why he'd fight him , luffy doesn't blame him for what happened to Ace he blames akainu and himself

[@jmw9173]

"This is not a critique of gear 5th" I can't tell if this to appease the fans who won't accept Goda heresy or this is just cognitive dissonance. "Gear 5th is perfect, but the silly nature of it might make serious built up fights become lighthearted, which would kinda suck." Having concerns about how the story will play out because of these powers is a gear 5th critique! I just can't get over one piece fans who do such mental gymnastics to justify this asspull of a power, this total retcon of a paramecia into a GOD zoan fruit that was "hunted" by the WG (didn't see too much serious hunting but whatever, cue the mental gymnastics). I mean at least at the end of Naruto when him and Sasuke turn out t o be a god reincarnate, at least we knew Naruto had the 9 tails from the start! Luffy was literally presented as this total underdog who is able to get creative and resourceful with his accidentally obtained rubbery powers, and then as soon as he awakens, all that's out the window. And for the record there is still much story to be covered so I have not completely lost faith, and still love Morj's channel because it brings some skepticism and critical thinking into what is almost a religious fanbase that does not dare question the book of Oda, but my god! Gear 5th was bad storytelling, and the ending of Wano was lazy.

[@ohreally5610]

Goodness me, amazing comment.

[@mcpics4448]

He literally get 5 different power up, had die to get that awakening, but sure let ignore the contexts

[@jmw9173]

@@mcpics4448 What did advanced conquerors, Ryuo, advanced observation or hell even gear 4th have to do with gear 5th? It was totally out of nowhere. Also, him dying doesn’t help your point. Just more laziness, the most overdone trope in the book: “shonen protagonist falls down and gets a crazy power up through sheer will! So hype!” Like luffy had to train for years to get gear 4th down pat, it wasn’t just something that came to him after training, he was perfecting it. But all of a sudden now he actually he just has this transformation thats a bajillion times more powerful and he can just turn on like any other zoan? Sorry, but to me that just comes off as a shitty and rushed way of powering up the protagonist after over a thousand chapters of having him be the guy with the rubber fruit.

[@niggamancer6985]

@@jmw9173 it's just a stupid cartoon it's not that serious

[@jmw9173]

@@niggamancer6985 Why are you on a video about that stupid cartoon? And just because it takes you hours to read or write a paragraph doesn’t mean everyone else is as stupid

[@KyubiCloaks]

I personally hate gear 5 as it is. Lack of tension and odas determination to keep stuff as light as possible has always been my biggest grievance with OP. IMO people are just in shock because its suprising the series went down this path but its really not that enjoyable, especially enough to make up for the lack of seriousness. This type of slapstick comedy i think only works in an actual show not still pages so im rly not liking any of luffys fights

[@swedichboy1000]

To be honest, i think Oda fucked up big time, i dont really care for the tone but for the powers of Gear 5 in general, how the hell do you balance reality warping abilities? wheres the stakes in that? The narrative is buggered, i´d tell you that.

[@Kagiso22]

If Luffy suddenly became serious in every fight from now on then he might as well be Zoro. Luffy becoming serious about a fight has always been a cue for the audience that things have now taken a serious turn. And I believe Oda will continue to use Luffy in that way. Serious gear 5th Luffy at the end of Wano was the moment we all had to realize that Luffy himself has now realized that it is now time for him to end his fight with Kaido. This is like Saitama doing a serious punch. Despite being able to drag a fight as long as he wants usually when the collateral damage is too much then he will opt to serious mode and end things once and for all.

[@justaway6901]

Its like you never noticed that in every dramatic fights, there's always a serious tone. In any story smh

[@agreeingwings2564]

Theory: What if Blackbeard can't swallow Luffy's DF powers with his darkness because his fruit is Sun God Nika who is, quite literally, the dawn. The light within the darkness. Not only that, he's the ONLY DF that can't be turned off.

[@HopeForPeave]

Lately most of the fights have been very serious i feel Oda flipped it back. Used to be goofy then become serious until time skip were was mostly serious and not as goofy to end game ark back to goofy. I think we will be seeing a gear beyond gear 5th or a form and that will be the final form where serious might come back

[@roger2599]

I would have preferred the Gum Gum no Mi a normal fruit that Luffy utilizes so well to the point of beating a Yonko, instead of it being the "Legendary Fruit" but I can see where oda is going with this and I still think its pretty cool

[@Scarftail]

Yeah, same here. I was basically forced to accept that he's a special character despite basically having an underdog Devil Fruit that he was forced to maximize via sheer training and ingenuity, but then I remembered that he was already part of two prophecies as far back as in Fishman Island (which was reiterated during Oden's flashback). It's something I'll have to wait and see how it plays out.

[@The-Yellow-Man]

Finally someone who at least acknowledges this aspect. I’ve been feeling crazy. I loved the idea of a super low tier fruit being used in clever ways to overcome incredibly overpowered characters. I do not at all like the idea of a chosen one with the ultimate god fruit just warping reality to make a joke out of everything.

[@janfortuna3002]

Oda Ft up on this one, leaving it an a normal fruit that Luffy made strong would be so much better... but NO let us make it a fng God fruit....yeah I am out of this sinking ship. The same thing happened in Naruto, Lee was more deserving to be the protagonist than the double super lineage having an infinite batery cariing Naruto.... And ending this fight against the strongest creature in this GOOFY way made the fight a JOKE....not in a good way.....

[@TheFightConnoisseur]

Luffys moments where he gets serious/angry like the arlong fight were what made Luffy a special protagonist for me… man I hope that’s not gone for goofy Luffy fights where he’s just playing

[@bencegergohocz5988]

That one time he puched Charlos at shabondy is another great example.

[@justaway6901]

@@bencegergohocz5988 "Hahahaha! Hachi is shot! HAHAHAHA Punch!"

[@theoriginalman9426]

@@justaway6901 Yeah, I don't want Luffy to be goofing around when he fights his brother's killer lol

[@pandanganmatiyn1487]

There is an easy solution to that, enter GEAR 0 (Zero). Like you said, Blackbeard's DF cancels out other DF's power anyway, and I fully expect BB to play dirty against his fight with Luffy and would use some seaprism stone items. With this, imagine Luffy just fighting all out using nothing but Haki and brute strength, hence the name Gear Zero. I like to think Luffy made this Gear purposefully only for BB, bc he is aware of his powers and how his match against Ace turned out. Luffy's final move could be something like brutally squeezing the lifeblood out of BB, literally making him suck himself dry - a taste of his own medicine - only using Conqueror's Haki, bending BB's devil fruit powers to Luffy's own will. Like how Alluka Zoldyk of HxH punishes those who don't payback after he grant their wishes. Also, dont you think it's too convenient that Oda made Luffy start naming gears in Gear 2? Yea we can assume that Gear 1 might just refer to his normal basic gum-gum attacks. So then this even furthers the possibility that if we took out his gum-gum moves and only his Haki stays, that gives us Gear 0. Idk, I just really want to see the Straw hats to get bloody brutal even once considering this is a pirate versus pirate fight.

[@jcfrostycheesebugga8681]

Luffy tried to eat crocodile, put arlong teeth in his mouth, became semi deflated with enel, ate kats mochi literally his own special move, tank man against cracker, and many more examples i think gear five was just the most obvious offender but he's always fought goofy. But i see where your coming from its gonna be tough to write a real serious fight again if luffy can literally turn his enemies into a jump rope, but i like how the gags are used early on in the fights rather than at the end so your right about it

[@nobrainz9222]

Beside Tank Man, everything else was in the earlier stages of the fights where the story didn't put Luffy in a very serious spotlight. Even then with Tank Man, that whole fight wasn't the ultimate dramatic battle of the arc.

[@youtubewatcher8565]

tell him kid.

[@shay_3859]

And deinking a huge barrel of water to become water luffy while fighting crocodile as well😭😭

[@IamDruMzTV]

you literally did not watch the video bruh

[@damegulley]

@@nobrainz9222what? No. Luffy was portrayed fighting seriously plenty times before the timeskip. You're trippin. Even when Lucci was about to shat talk on Luffy's chibi form he was anxious about his legs being hurt by gigant pistol

[@Mooglatan]

Luffy was able to be as serious as he ever was at the end of the Kaido fight despite being in Gear 5, so Oda could just continue this and simply have Luffy be serious in Gear 5 when he needs to be. He could also do something like, if Luffy starts off too angry/devastated, he can't transform into Gear 5.

[@senorconfused]

What kind of copium are these One Piece fans / Oda d riders on? Anime's greatest power up is Luffy is ripping off Loony Toons (a cartoon) animation? "But it fits his character so well" "It's something different". Lol yall will go to the end of the world to defend whatever your precious Oda dumps on yall. Congratulations, you are now watching a cartoon instead of an anime. This is YOUR peak.

[@furorteutonicus9045]

I think the shift in seriousness at the end of the Kaido fight makes sense since Luffy is still influenced by the soul of Nika who is a silly entitiy but Luffys seriousness comes still through at the end before the final punch. I think (unlike Lucci) Luffy still has not full control over the soul of Nika and because of that he is still laughing and goofing around in G5.

[@Tl0365]

I feel like we’re all ignoring the theme here(Luffy vs Kaido = Luffy W mid diff/low diff). In this video he made it clear that against the people that ain’t really a problem for Luffy he’s more comical until maybe he needs to up the anti a little. After Luffy entered G5 against Kaido he was beating that ass 😂😂😂

[@Tl0365]

So don’t get me wrong I’m not saying base Luffy could just mid diff or even high diff Kaido as we speak; However G5 Luffy rn vs Kaido rn both full stamina is a Luffy W mid to low diff imo. People keep making up the notion that Kaido was more drained than Luffy when the guy was knocked out twice and practically died once lol 😂😂. Like let’s open our eyes here

[@jayxx_slayer9456]

This is a a major issue cause it can make every upcoming conflict boring since Luffy has now beaten the strongest creature ontop of that gear 5th is an asspull ability

[@DistantKingdom]

i think Akainu would be on a similar level to blackbeard. while yes blackbeard put Ace on the path to be executed, Akainu was the one who ended Ace's life with his bare hands. Gear 5th could maybe tap into the dichotomy of luffy's character that you pointed out. since it can double down on the more silly side maybe it can also do the same for the other side as well, if written well. we shall see!

[@OtakuQuis]

I kinda like Luffy being overpowered for once, as he was the underdog all story. But I can see how that would get stale for a lot of people. Interesting to see how Oda will handle this for the rest of the series.

[@diemaschineistrash3791]

Best case is if he only fights bb in an all out battle where as sabo takes on akainu. Would make things more interesting

[@goldmemberpb]

Luffy definitely was not an underdog in terms of his strength until we get to maybe Alabasta or Enies Lobby. he pretty much coasted all of his east blue fight and even managed to beat Crocodile fairly handily once he could attack him.

[@iuricunhamurakami8261]

@@goldmemberpb Yeah, even in east blue luffy was strong enough to beat most people in the grandline, the first real challenge being Lucci shows that

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

@@goldmemberpb , Paramount War was actually the Arc where Luffy is the underdog losing to the major powerhouses of the Admirals, and now that Luffy is a Yonko he’s not only not an underdog anymore, but he also doesn’t have to fight all of his fights extremely seriously too.

[@TyRendition]

@@goldmemberpb yea he only became a underdog the deeper he got into the grandline.

[@kurihamehayd1646]

gear 5 sucks one piece has goofy moments before this transformation but this looney toons shit is out of place.

[@abs0lut610]

I feel like we might not have Luffy learn the true nature of his devil fruit for a bit still, thus he believes he is limited to only rubber. I think when that seriousness is later required (aside from Blackbeard) it will be done at a time when he learns the truth and then unleashes his full potential as the more serious warrior of liberation. Maybe all of his gears can go even further than we've currently seen, since he believes he is rubber.

[@abysswarrior]

Well Oda said no matter how serious OP got he always wants go retain a sense of humout with Luffys abilities seeing him inflate his body like a ballon or turning into a Gear 4 Bounceman. Its to stay comedic I feel as the more playful or goofy his abilities are the more you think damn this guy Doffy was seriously laughing at Luffys goofy gear 4 just go get pummeled. If you didnt like how the anime was always kind of wacky you clearly ignored character design you really want a person whos never watched one piece to look at Big Mom and think. Yup she looks pretty powerful, if you want serious fights that stand out

[@kazuhira_miller]

very nicely done as always I loved how you wrapped it up there with bb and imu but I think akainu kind of throws a wrench on your whole point

[@tachi5408]

Maybe when he gets serious or has his freedom taken away his Nika form will lose the "Sun" and instead turn into more of an eclipse form making the white hair darker etc, just a thought since an eclipse is when the moon blocks out all the sunlight (In this case Blackbeard in my opinion)

[@mtmartian7252]

I feel like his seriousness will come back when he gets in control of the fruit as like Vegapunk says about the fruits having their natures influence the user. Right now Luffy doesn't have mastery over it and he doesn't feel the need to take the helm as much. I feel like he will get very serious when a stronger opponent pushes him.

[@creightonc8147]

It would of been so awesome if when Ace died Luffy looked at the camera and went Th-th-th-th-th-that’s all folks, and hit Akainu if the face with a pie then skipped around the battlefield going Duck season, rabbit season, duck season, rabbit season. One Piece fans will make excuses for anything and scream genius no matter what, especially influencers who rely on clicks. I’ve seen many of them trying to fake laugh their way through it, and it comes off as so fake. But One Piece fans are in full denial at this point, because investing this much time in something and watching it fail is beyond what they can handle. Since Gear 5, zero dramatic tension. Wano was the longest Arc, and the Kaido fight was ruined with skipping rope, and yuck, yuck. All that build up, for skipping rope. Oh how amazing, so amazing, that totally fit the tone. Everything that Kaido had done got turned into yuck yuck, an easy win, a stupid fight, not to mention gear 5 looks horrible. All these fans were literally drawing and creating looks for what they thought gear 5 would be, and they all looked bad ass, and they got saddled with Luffy with white hair. FYI it’s just a super lazy and easy way for animators to draw Luffy. It’s Luffy with slightly different hair. Oh wow, what a great look, you changed his hair color. So genius. Didn’t even explore the fact that since Ace died and how he died that post time skip he has demonstrated the use of his own Devil fruit and Aces. Similar to how Blackbeard uses two Devil fruits. Nope now he’s bugs bunny. It’s just his base powers, amplified to a larger scale with a Looney tuned twist for added comedy cause he wasn’t funny enough before?

[@IAmMightyMike]

I'm almost wondering if his power is just too limitless now other than stamina

[@ManyTanks1]

It definitely will be by the end of the story once he starts learning he’s not a rubber man and that the nika fruit can quite possibly do whatever he puts his imagination towards

[@RhettReisman]

Great video Morj :) We need Luffy vs Akainu and IMO that has way more emotion than Luffy vs Blackbeard

[@muirick9924]

Serious luffy will always be better

[@ragingsilver]

I'm not a fan of toon world powers. Feels like Oda ran outta ideas for what else he could do for gear 5 rubber. Whilst I know that's not the case cos it's Oda afterall, guy pretty much plan the whole of One Piece from that start. I think I would've preferred him having silly stretch universe powers like he could stretch time and space etc. Luffy with Toon world powers feels like the movie called The Mask that stars Jim Carrey.

[@markross9075]

Just wait until theirs a moment like Sentoumaru but someone actually dies this time and Luffy blames himself for not being able to calm down enough to stop it

[@lozicrazy]

Dark side of nika pops out maybe

[@EvilChris2010]

I absolutely hate Luffy’s gear 5. I’ve literally stopped looking at the panels and just reading the dialogue. I know OP isn’t the most serious manga but its fall so far from the Enies Lobby fights.

[@thepredman9lol266]

I think it is possible, at least on the choreography side, and a great example of this is Spinel, from the Steven Universe Movie. I'm pretty sure her powers to stretch and be elastic like rubber were actually inspired by Luffy, however the way in which she uses them is extremely violent and deadly. This is mainly conveyed through the animation in her climax fight with Steven, as he's more on the defensive and she's just swinging like crazy, spinning her fists and banging into him like a beyblade! The sound effects exentuate this, as it has a very friction, burning and speedy WHAK sound to it. I feel like Oda could use a lot of these techniques, as well as create a juxtaposition where Luffy enacts Gear 5, but can't even laugh or smile from the get go, to make future fights have a dark tone to begin with. However, this is a tough balancing act, so I'm with you on that concern for the future...

[@JevonnM]

Am I the only person who noticed that this time around Luffy was completely serious in his first two fight against kaido but completely goofy in the last round, which is the complete opposite of how he’s been in every other fight?

[@Tobore190]

I think you are forgetting something morj In that month that oda went on break,they dropped those like magazines ( I have forgotten what they called them). In one of those magazines it was stated that awakening of zoans find it difficult to control it initially that's why Luffy was laughing uncontrollably at the beginning of kaido's fight and later settled.

[@freehigh9231]

To me gear 5 as it is, is a huge mistake. I hate every cartoonish aspect. You can give him the same powers wihout that stupid and foolish behavior and would be completely fine.

[@TheEnviedKid]

People really be afraid to speak up about not liking gear 5

[@MrLovolovo]

just making objects rubber would have been enough, instead of also people and grabbing lightning and sht

[@sushantjha4386]

But what about Akainu, Morj ??

[@Itsnotreallyme0863]

Patreon, sponsors, and ADs. Much like anime, half of his videos are wasted.

[@artur-rdc]

That Kaido comment about devil fruits not being enough is weird, since he was defeated by the power of a devil fruit, but it does hint that even gear 5th might not be enough in the future. Even without Blackbeard removing the power. We still have villains like Akainu, possibly Shanks or maybe someone else in Elbaf as candidates for a serious fight. Maybe Luffy uses gear 5th but has to finish the fight without it, just using a new type of haki or something.

[@travisealy3512]

If luffy didn’t have haki he would’ve lost that fight even with awakening. He had to stack different types to really hurt kaido

[@SAHtoshiDude]

Warrior of liberation is pretty serious. The joy of felling one enemies, the smile of a liberated person as they watch their oppressors be slaughtered. The joy of battle and fighting might be the fruits true purpose, all other connotations and attributes are just lore added to the fruit as a result of a bloodlust enraged god killing people

[@aceflare2431]

I got a potentially insane theory that I don't think anyone's thought about yet as far as I've seen that might tie the story together in a big way... What if the original Nika's mother was Imu... And history may be repeating itself.

[@lefeeshchopped8286]

It might be interesting if his antics became more sinister or something like that

[@BreakingTheGleipnir]

This is such a good point I havent thought of before. Youre absolutely right. I couldnt pinpoint the bad feeling I had in Luffy vs Kaido. But it makes sense - it just didnt feel serious. He never went beast mode

[@johnanime7688]

We don't need serious fights. i love the goofiness of G5. Makes it so different then other edgelord shonen MCs. I LOVE TOM AND JERRY and i love gear 5 aka toon power baaabyy. GODA!

[@goldmemberpb]

I think G5 Luffy can still smile and be a bit goofy but the fight retains its serious tone. We even got a bit of that toward the end of the Kaido vs Luffy.

[@devrolo]

it’s like you didn’t watch the whole video. check the pinned comment.

[@Boner__]

And the tiny tiny bit we got in film red

[@justaway6901]

"You hurt my friend HAHAHAHAHA Here is a serious punch!

[@Chrisfragger1]

Luffy should not have much difficulty in any fights anymore... Except with a fellow Yonko or 2 Admirals... Luffy IS the top tier now. Luffy is a God Tier Fruit User now. He's going to come into his true power very fast, and no one, except the likes of BB, or the full weight of the Marines should be an issue for him anymore... If you disagree, argue with me over it. The ONLY reason Luffy will struggle with anyone but the best, is plot contrivance.

[@Chrisfragger1]

I think Luffy will slowly gain control over the personality of Joy Boy over time.

[@kfircohen1678]

I dont like it when people say its fine Luffy vs kaido wasnt too serious. Sure, having comedic fights can/is a good thing, but this fight specifically shouldnt have been this lighthearted imo. This was the culmination of the by far longest and most important arc to date, oda spent years trying to show us how important this fight was for wano and for the whole world. And for it to end in this light-hearted, non dramatic way felt anti-climatic to me.

[@rongeez1222]

Fax

[@Andre.W96]

This is a hot take but not entirely wrong but I feel it becoming such a light hearted fight is what made it so interesting because that’s nika main effect and presence and it goes against the common troupe which makes it memorable. Too me gear 5th feels like luffy is being a sociopath just laughing while dealing out deadly blows it’s like bugs bunny but with bloodlust.

[@niggamancer6985]

And that's the mistake you made thinking it was the fight that was important it wasn't the fight that was important but the outcome and the out come as shifted the one piece world forever one has never been about over dramatic fights the fight a aren't what's important but the aftermath

[@EiichiroOdaSensei]

Wanna cry?

[@kiratwo4u]

I swear to god thus comment will age well in the future

[@Number.17.on.a.Calculator]

He might use other gears as luffy said he wants to go an adventure i doubt he just go and one shot his opponents

[@topramen5344]

What’s so cool about Blackbeard being able to take away devil fruit powers is since devil fruits are manifested dreams that’s essentially saying Blackbeard can take away people’s dreams But “people’s dreams never end”

[@fulcagay1277]

Devil fruits aren’t “manifested dreams”. That’s a misunderstanding from scans mistranslations. In japanese you can understand how Vegapunk meant to say that DF exist thanks to people dreaming to get those powers and making them possible via DF. not that people dream and DF just spawn lol

[@topramen5344]

@@fulcagay1277 “the sky isn’t blue, blue is what the sky is”

[@QWERTY-gp8fd]

sky isnt blue because it has no color. Raleigh scattering makes it appear blue as violet and blue light have the shortest wavelengths know wtf u talking about before spitting bullsh,it.@@topramen5344

[@95yazid]

I gotta say you took the wrong example with Arlong Park, the most memorable moment for me was the goofiness because the fact Luffy made these people, who have spent a decade of being terrorized by Arlong, laugh at him was one of the most powerful blows Luffy had that fight.

[@JDubs1464]

I remember one comment I saw was that Luffy wouldn’t use Gear 5 in fights vs Akainu or Blackbeard. These are the guys who took Luffy’s closest friend from him, and he wouldn’t want to be smiling and goofing around with them. He might just use the other gears so he can remain serious

[@usopp134]

I think there's a misunderstanding about gear 5 on this vídeo. Gear 5 is not a Toon like Power, is a Power that alows the user to be free, limited only by his imagination. The toon like Powers is only a manifestation off Luffy imagination and on who Luffy really is. But, Luffy has also a seriousness side and there's no reason why his freedom in gear 5 be a limit for that. It would be incoerent for a freedom freedom fruit to impose a limit like that. The only logical argument for something like that is that Luffy can't imagine himself being serious, and that's Just dumb.

[@etherealsplit]

I feel like there’s eventually going to be a point to where Luffy will have an inner struggle between himself and Nika and to where he will have to be able to overcome Nika’s will within the fruit from making Luffy deviate from his goal. It would be a cool thing to explore and would be like a Ichigo vs his Zanpakto type situatuon

[@meechlazerdim]

Lame but ok

[@justaway6901]

Projection my friend. Oda do what he will do for better or for worse.

[@Falkuzrules]

Oda worshipers in the future be like "Luffy filled himself with water once so it's ok that he one-shotted Im by becoming giant and stepping on him! Did you see his eyes popping out that was SO FUNNY one piece the best goda forever" Actually, in seriousness I would legitimately like Gear 5th SO MUCH MORE if Oda didn't do that hideous eye-pop-out style. The entire series so far has had eyes stretch, and now out of nowhere he changed it to this fugly look and started using it as often as possible. Why do the eyes clone themselves!?

[@gemberss]

I love gear 5's power! how he magically just pulled out glasses when he knew he was going to travel fast. seems like such a luffy move to do! when fights get serious i'd imagine luffy still has a smile on his face, just an evil grin like he had against lucci. tbh i think that is scarier than a fully serious luffy. he looks like a complete psycho with his deadly no limitation powers. i do wonder however if he would get stronger if he was serious in g5 and just loses it.

[@OmniCloud987]

Yeah, one year later, still kinda waiting for Gear 5 to be serious and see something as epic as Rob Lucci ending or punching a celestial. It's still largely underwhelming so far, and I sincerely hope the tone shifts when Luffy fights someone like Blackbeard or the crew is in danger.

[@johnmurphy2125]

Well, his 5th gear isn’t necessarily stopping him from getting serious. This form gives him freedom, which makes him happy, but doesn’t necessarily guarantee his lightheartedness. Maybe when he becomes serious against a character he holds animosity against, he’ll lose some of his imagination, or potentially not even be able to harness the abilities of gear 5th.

[@MagentaRodent]

That could up the stakes of the fight.. that honestly might be the best or at least a very good option.

[@ditzyvalkyrie]

The reason he seems to toy around and is only capable of being a comedic cartoon character when he transforms is that he isn't forced to be serious. He won't be able to pull off the stunts we see against black bread who can erase the devil fruit's power entirely. The fight against Akainu would also be more focused on haki combat as Luffy can't touch him otherwise. This form makes him freeform yes but logias are also extremely freeform like the smoke smoke fruit but then get decimated by haki users.

[@imanafandy3548]

This is exactly my concern

[@sneedfeed7204]

Why would Luffy fight IM? The World Government's strongest military force, Sakazuki, Is a better matchup for Luffy since there is history and animosity between the two. Idk the WG is the only faction where the leaders aren't necessarily fighters so I'm not expecting much from IM in that regard

[@RamzaBeoulves]

After 20 years, at its climax, your favorite manga features months long Looney Tunes tributes and you have to convince yourself you enjoy it

[@ohreally5610]

One of the few people being honest here lol. Gear 5 has ruined what little was left of One Piece combat.

[@niggamancer6985]

Yeah cause luffy wasn't blowing wind into his arms and getting bigger and deflating turning into kid the lonney toon shit had been happing since chapter 1 you've been lying to yourself for 20+ years

[@RamzaBeoulves]

​@@niggamancer6985 There's a world of difference between comic relief and the culmination of a decade+ long conflict to save a country from an ongoing genocide A sizable portion of the fanbase came back to OP during or after Marineford where they felt the series had matured a bit This criticism is quite consistent

[@ahmadazem4167]

@@RamzaBeoulves if so they should have bounced out at fishman island once they saw it hasn't really "matured" or any arc after that.

[@ahmadazem4167]

If you don't like it it's fine, no need to try to amke it seem people are forcing themselves to like it

[@dre10121012]

The problem isn’t Gear 5 at all. It’s the Kaido fight. It ended before that badly needed last serious round. Kaido should’ve got up from this punch and just STARTED acting serious. instead he got knocked out and I still have no idea why. He was just laughing the whole time because he had no threat and the threat somehow just arrived at that moment, and it was too late. Really disappointing writing. It could’ve been a great fight.

[@BoScotty]

Morj this might be your best video yet. Bravo. My skepticism about Gear 5th has subsided now. You helped me think about the whole thing way differently.

[@johnanime7688]

Cant wait to hear morj's true thoughts on how crappy and goofy gear 5th is on his 2nd channel Morj Unleashed xD

[@josueperales4354]

In my mind, Luffy needs to start taking all his fights and situations more seriously. Look where he is now and the people he will fight in the upcoming arcs. Yeah I can see that G5 is a little ridiculous but if it helps get the job done then there is nothing left to say about it.

[@cytheriaa]

i don't like the idea that Luffy instantly mastered gear 5, i mean he almost died to Kaido so a miracle happened and gear 5th was activated and WAM Luffy already knows how to activate it on will and how to use it to it's full extent.

[@PER578]

Imagine luffy playing with akainu. Huge disrespect to Ace

[@cyaneetnoodlesmaker2251]

or it like taunting akainu because of the fleet admiral hatred against pirates basically a switch and bait. also it wouldn’t disrespect ace i don’t think?

[@rongeez1222]

Yeah I don’t want to laugh during that fight

[@LegendInTheMaking11]

I already thought One Piece had a probelem creating stakes because Oda hates killing off characters and fights last centuries, but Gear 5 makes this problem 10x worse. I just watched Luffy get angry that Vegapunk (Atlas) was hurt and then immediately go into gear 5 and start laughing and cheesing🤦🏾

[@samkzondo4487]

We need a hybrid luffy honestly

[@dantecrottogini529]

In a lot of shonens the MC looses their powers (at least for a bit) in the last fight so i think BB will take Luffy's DF powers away

[@johnman8398]

I have mixed feelings on gear 5 while it is interesting to see I feel like that I might honestly prefer Gear 4 over it due to how wacky and silly fights turn into when it appears, it doesn't really feel earned and just sort of happened because it had to. While luffy's big fights have had silly moments they're usually small isolated moments that don't linger and aren't nearly as prevalent as gear 5. Not to mention it seems like luffy can just activate it at will with him randomly using it against lucci which if Oda isn't careful could lead to gear 5 losing its novelty very quickly.

[@MarqMervin]

That was one of my big issues w/ Gear 5. At first when he had to force his heart to keep beating, it felt like there were serious consequences to it. But now, he just gets sluggish/old, then bounces back after a few seconds (if Egghead is anything to go by, he recovers quicker than from Gear 4)

[@maliklofton9148]

I'd unironically would love to see Luffy slam Akainu with a Looney Toon hammer