Does God Have a Future? NightLine DEBATE FULL

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ChristopherHitchslap

ChristopherHitchslap

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@dementare
@dementare 7 жыл бұрын
"I'm not a physicist, you're not a physicist, and basically every sentence you speak on the subject demonstrates this." -Sam Harris
@fukpoeslaw3613
@fukpoeslaw3613 Жыл бұрын
"But if Harris is no physicist, how can he recognise what is physics and what is not physics?" -Me
@scorpionsubzero9066
@scorpionsubzero9066 Жыл бұрын
@@fukpoeslaw3613 Because even without the former degree in it, the basics we learn in school demonstrates that Deepak is just spitting those terms.
@tylerblomker3633
@tylerblomker3633 Жыл бұрын
​@Fu*k Poe's Law! If you put ketchup and mustard in a bowl of soup and serve it to me, I could tell your not a 5 star chef. I would bet my car that your not a top chef. I have absolutely zero training in the culinary arts but I think it's a safe bet...
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas Жыл бұрын
@@fukpoeslaw3613 so you can talk nonsense too, well done.
@qustuntunia8689
@qustuntunia8689 10 ай бұрын
but so far we have seen that lack of islam leads to destruction for example: Free sex leads to killing of unborn babies, destroys marriages, destroy kids psychologically, free drugs/alcohol destroys decency, persons and society and make people behave like a animals, marriageless couples have no security/no commitment they f**k around and run away from responsibility that comes after sex and union, the list goes on and on …. look at your morals and ethics when it comes to war - your athiest friends are killing babies and bombing hospitals and Gaza. What we have is Quran and the teaching of Prophet, where all things are made clear, 1. no sex before a written marriage contract with eye witnesses, no killing of animals, no destruction of plants, no bombardment of unarmed civilians, God says in the Quran to kill one human unjustly is to kill an entire humanity. God is not weak, He says fight until the oppression is completely rid off with all means, looks at the rights of women in Islam and you'll be blown away, Athiests, and non muslims - you must know that Quran is a book which says it is compulsory for men and women to get themselves highly educated in all sciences and arts etc....what are you non-muslims on about honestly. Seriously what can you offer? what has athism and Godlessnes has done to societies - just open your eyes and ears and see - you will be ashamed if you are sincere! Please again go and read Quran - especially if you love science May God Guide us all and prevent from these nonsensical uneducated bullS**t
@multimrhp3008
@multimrhp3008 10 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I get sad, and lose faith in humanity. Then I think of Sam Harris.
@tiagobjesus
@tiagobjesus 3 жыл бұрын
And Hitchens, and Dawkins. Hitchens may not be alive, but oh boy he is in our hearts. Hitchen forever ❤️
@anythingafter10
@anythingafter10 2 жыл бұрын
This comment made me lose faith in humanity.
@JET7C0
@JET7C0 2 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie, this ironically has a kind of religious tinge to it, if you think about replacing Sam Harris with the word Jesus, etc., like so: "sometimes I get sad, and lose faith in humanity. Then I think of Jesus/Our Savior/etc." It's especially ironic when you consider Sam Harris's stated opposition to dogmatic thinking.
@ChillAssTurtle
@ChillAssTurtle 2 жыл бұрын
@@JET7C0 you dorks are so desperate XD faith in humanity =/= faith in something that isnt even real. Nobody worships sam harris, nobody offers animal or human sacrifices for sam harris.. none of that nonsense XD project more
@islamjesus777
@islamjesus777 Жыл бұрын
Sam Harris for God!!!
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 10 жыл бұрын
"If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people." -Gregory House
@itsallgoodman4108
@itsallgoodman4108 Жыл бұрын
This
@WickedIndigo
@WickedIndigo Жыл бұрын
Surprised I haven’t seen this quote before. Thanks for sharing🤘😎
@PaxsonWoelber
@PaxsonWoelber 10 жыл бұрын
Deepak is obviously furious and frustrated that he's finally run up against people who see right through his charlatanry and quantum nonsense.
@TonyCanones
@TonyCanones 3 жыл бұрын
You can imagine Deepak is having an internal crisis as he envisions his house of cards collapsing.
@timchambers170
@timchambers170 2 жыл бұрын
Deepak is a con artist suddenly angry that he's being exposed as a clown by an intellectual Penn and Teller pointing out Deepak's bullshit
@ChillAssTurtle
@ChillAssTurtle 2 жыл бұрын
@@TonyCanones mainly his income flow that pays for his houses XD hes such a grifter
@qustuntunia8689
@qustuntunia8689 Жыл бұрын
You should read Quran before you face your quantum sense in your grave
@scorpionsubzero9066
@scorpionsubzero9066 Жыл бұрын
@@qustuntunia8689 always with the threats of hell haha. Can't you see that for atheists that's like threating us with the fury of Zeus? Doesn't say anything to us. At the same time it does say something about you. That you want to threaten people into believing what you believe. Isn't that twisted?
@MrTomemac
@MrTomemac 11 жыл бұрын
"Saying it louder and relentlessly does not make it true." Love that quote it should appear more often in the face of people like Deepak.
@7TheMrSeven7
@7TheMrSeven7 Жыл бұрын
Could you please state at which minutes was that said?
@7TheMrSeven7
@7TheMrSeven7 Жыл бұрын
Found it: 27:26
@oisinhanlon
@oisinhanlon Жыл бұрын
@qustuntunia8689
@qustuntunia8689 10 ай бұрын
but so far we have seen that lack of islam leads to destruction, for example: Free sex leads to killing of unborn babies, destroys marriages, destroy kids psychologically, free drugs/alcohol destroys decency, persons and society and make people behave like a animals, marriageless couples have no security/no commitment they f**k around and run away from responsibility that comes after sex and union, the list goes on and on …. look at your morals and ethics when it comes to war - your athiest friends are killing babies and bombing hospitals and Gaza. What we have is Quran and the teaching of Prophet, where all things are made clear, 1. no sex before a written marriage contract with eye witnesses, no killing of animals, no destruction of plants, no bombardment of unarmed civilians, God says in the Quran to kill one human unjustly is to kill an entire humanity. God is not weak, He says fight until the oppression is completely rid off with all means, looks at the rights of women in Islam and you'll be blown away, Athiests, and non muslims - you must know that Quran is a book which says it is compulsory for men and women to get themselves highly educated in all sciences and arts etc....what are you non-muslims on about honestly. Seriously what can you offer? what has athism and Godlessnes has done to societies - just open your eyes and ears and see - you will be ashamed if you are sincere! Please again go and read Quran - especially if you love science May God Guide us all and prevent from these nonsensical uneducated bullS**t
@Mynameisnumber5
@Mynameisnumber5 10 жыл бұрын
I love how calm Sam Harris is.
@crunch9876
@crunch9876 10 жыл бұрын
Have u seen who he debates!!!! Lol to him this is nothing most debates he has to listen to even more bullshit haha
@Wambumbu
@Wambumbu 10 жыл бұрын
Sam Harris is my personal idol... Seriously
@kickssass
@kickssass 10 жыл бұрын
Wambumbu yeah me too. Love his book spirituality without religion
@nineinchsails7702
@nineinchsails7702 6 жыл бұрын
It's cuz he meditates like fuck
@JacobHayden911
@JacobHayden911 6 жыл бұрын
It's meditation. :)
@pravinda333
@pravinda333 8 жыл бұрын
"Saying it louder and relentlessly is not gonna make it true" EPIC.
@dekubaner
@dekubaner 8 жыл бұрын
+David Sebastian that phrase has become quite handy for me to use when discussing topics with people i know.
@kayem3824
@kayem3824 6 жыл бұрын
Saying it calmly doesn't make anything true either.
@kayem3824
@kayem3824 6 жыл бұрын
Garrett McGowan I don't support Deepak but he can be a bit funny at times. But Harris gets on my nerves because he has the calm ways of a preacher, which is quite telling.
@vidyanandbapat8032
@vidyanandbapat8032 Жыл бұрын
@@kayem3824 That's right. What you say matters more than how you say. But religion has nothing meaningful to say. Hence, religion focuses on how to say.
@douglaidlaw740
@douglaidlaw740 Жыл бұрын
No, I tend to think that earnestly repetitive people are still trying to convince themselves. People trying to support something untenable, people displaying prejudice. And by prejudice, I mean a belief that is regarded as axiomatic, needing no proof, and not allowed to be challenged.
@realGBx64
@realGBx64 9 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the calmness of Sam Harris. Being interrupted so many times by nonsense in mid-sentece, I think I would have started shouting at Deepak to shut up. He's just an agitator, he's not arguing at all.
@forestlathers4052
@forestlathers4052 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what all theists do once you’ve called them out on their bullshit.
@lumpheadthump
@lumpheadthump 2 жыл бұрын
Deepak is selling a product. That's his aim, so he yells over points that he knows destroy the nonsense he's selling. And that's why you see religious debaters shouting over Hitchens, Harris, Dawkins, etc. too. Because the religious themselves know that gods are nonsense
@lumpheadthump
@lumpheadthump 2 жыл бұрын
@@forestlathers4052 How about a link to a debate where an atheist did that?
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 2 жыл бұрын
@@lumpheadthump It would be interesting to see a discussion where religious people are demonstrating that atheism is incorrect and the atheist reacts by starting to speak louder and repeating their points. I'm not aware of any such discussion but I'd definitely like to know more if such thing did happen.
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 2 жыл бұрын
@@lumpheadthump I'm pretty sure many theistic people do actually believe in things that they speak about. Of course, they don't agree with each other because each has a bit different idea about their religion. However, I agree that many theistic people fall back to repeating same stuff again and again when they hit contrary evidence.
@frogstamper
@frogstamper 10 жыл бұрын
I don't believe Deepak is playing with a full deck, he is clearly out of his depth......he really is the king of "woo-woo".
@caseyspeaks6380
@caseyspeaks6380 10 жыл бұрын
Shermer and Harris made every effort to make reasonable answers. Chopra was almost hysterical in his rants. Although the lady made little effort to join the discussion it was for the best - everything she said was pointless nonsense. "I know what each of those words mean but...."
@JoeParadise1234
@JoeParadise1234 11 жыл бұрын
I thought I was going to see a good fight. Deepak didn't stand a chance.
@swilson3d
@swilson3d 11 жыл бұрын
Watching this idiot speak makes me want to stab Deepak in the eye. He incoherently strings words together and then acts as though he must be smarter than you because you don't understand his nonsense.
@sauniz1
@sauniz1 10 жыл бұрын
I don't see how it would be difficult for anyone to believe that the ancient hebrew tribal god sacrificed himself to himself to appease himself so that mankind might be saved from his hate, through his love.
@michaeldennis4203
@michaeldennis4203 10 жыл бұрын
It is tragic that so many deists are so certain about something that they cannot possibly know based on faith alone
@RandallDeanClark
@RandallDeanClark 9 жыл бұрын
sauniz1 I know it's old... but I just came across your comment and I MUST say... It's perfect. Never before I've seen religious stupidity so beautifully worded.
@ricksflicks-
@ricksflicks- 6 жыл бұрын
Nice one! I'm stealing this quote.
@Well_possibly
@Well_possibly 6 жыл бұрын
Ricksflicks, same. I like that ending: "from his hate, through his love".
@sharp_iodine2737
@sharp_iodine2737 4 жыл бұрын
Perfectly put! It's almost as if the tribal god suffered such a blow to his ego and yet was so loathe to actually kill humans that he tricked them into believing one of them had appeased him and thus controlling them forevermore through guilt! This is so stupid they seem to be the actions of a petty 5 year old rather than an all knowing being.
@Arkloyd
@Arkloyd 10 жыл бұрын
This should be titled "Does Deepak ever let other people talk?"
@sudopeople
@sudopeople 10 жыл бұрын
"We are each a localized field of energy and information with cybernetic feedback loops interacting within a nonlocal field..."
@DJRickard2010
@DJRickard2010 3 жыл бұрын
@Garrett McGowan and like most religious leaders, he’s duping people for millions
@DaytakTV
@DaytakTV 10 жыл бұрын
Dear Sam Harris, please somehow get elected as president and fix our country. You are the best. Thank you.
@Bomber_Boi
@Bomber_Boi 3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful day it will be, when an Atheist is elected into office. Unfortunately, Americans beleive in angels, more than they do in evolution right now...😒
@frogstamper
@frogstamper 10 жыл бұрын
Sam Harris is priceless, the way he clearly and quietly makes his point is brilliant, poor old Deepak made himself look a raging idiot with his shouting.
@onefodderunit
@onefodderunit 10 жыл бұрын
frogstamper What do you believe to be an example of an 'intelligent' utterance by Sam 'Shmuel' Harris?
@sudopeople
@sudopeople 10 жыл бұрын
***** Are fucking serious, he was the only one speaking an semblance of logic of the two. Deepak Chopra is a master at one thing: taking womens' money. He completely fails at any cohesive thought. He simple regurgitates words he doesn't understand, "quantum consciousness is the localized energy of the neutrino" WTF?
@sudopeople
@sudopeople 10 жыл бұрын
***** You're wrong because the force of quantum consciousness is nonlocalized.
@sudopeople
@sudopeople 10 жыл бұрын
***** I'm noticing a general theme of gibberish here.
@sudopeople
@sudopeople 10 жыл бұрын
***** Appeal to Authority. Google it. Transcend quantum space and time for only the spirit is nonlocal.
@beaulester8797
@beaulester8797 Жыл бұрын
Watching Deepak Chopra be made a fool of by someone other than himself will never get old.
@57ashdot
@57ashdot 9 жыл бұрын
Deepak.....what in the actual fuck is this guy trying to say? I can't even. Sam Harris is absolutely brutal in this, it's amazing.
@qustuntunia8689
@qustuntunia8689 Жыл бұрын
True …but have you read Quran or you’re settling for Sam, sam has nothing to offer except false confidence like a magician. Go and read Quran you’ll know what is real
@babymmune
@babymmune 10 жыл бұрын
Bullshit quote of the night: "In the absence of a conscious entity, the moon remains a radically ambiguous and ceaselessly flowing quantum soup" - The "great" Deepak Chopra
@Gorg0nops
@Gorg0nops 4 жыл бұрын
DA MOOWN!?
@Raz.C
@Raz.C 4 жыл бұрын
How appropriate. Deepak's _Quantum Soup_ is the perfect companion for the _Pea Soup_ he's trying to serve... In case the metaphorical context of Pea Soup isn't clear: www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/pea%20soup#:~:text=You%20can%20use%20the%20phrase,green%20or%20yellow%20split%20peas.
@shawneastland5711
@shawneastland5711 3 жыл бұрын
Word salad.
@philwalkercounselling
@philwalkercounselling 5 ай бұрын
Lol I think it may be one of the biggest bullshit quotes in history !! Omg !! I would have loved a slowdown and for it to be reflected back to him for him to explain in more detail.
@christianhawes4751
@christianhawes4751 10 жыл бұрын
Just looking at the way Deepak and Sam Harris conduct themselves is fascinating. Harris is calm, cool, collected and quietly makes substantive points that are easy to understand. Deepak comes off as egotistical, gets his feelings hurt. Strings together sciency words in a ridiculous stew that means nothing but makes some people thing he's smart. What's up with those Liberace glasses btw?
@qustuntunia8689
@qustuntunia8689 Жыл бұрын
Read Quran boss
@DarkMatterVisible
@DarkMatterVisible 6 жыл бұрын
I had no idea how aggressively childish and insincere Deepak Chopra was. He has the temperament of a cult leader.
@theviolatedtwinky
@theviolatedtwinky 9 жыл бұрын
When Deepak was speaking about how science can be more lucrative that spiritualism all I could think about was "Dude you are literally wearing diamond studded glasses"
@aaronmizzou
@aaronmizzou 9 жыл бұрын
+theviolatedtwinky He does have a point though. Think of all the smart fucks working away at bombs and the next great weapon. It pisses me off. The military industrial complex. I wish we all could just say let's stop fucking fighting already. Anyway, I love Harris's response. It's the religions whakados that get the weapons that can cause the most harm, including our wonderful USA.
@ChaseFace
@ChaseFace 8 жыл бұрын
+Beenthere Donethat Oh, religious arguments.
@ChaseFace
@ChaseFace 8 жыл бұрын
***** Oh look, a defensive Christian wasting their time trying to convince people on the internet. Rare.
@rjones6801
@rjones6801 10 жыл бұрын
Deepak says so much while saying literally nothing at all. It's amazing really.
@gregmorling9872
@gregmorling9872 3 жыл бұрын
Depak had his pants pulled down.
@tiagobjesus
@tiagobjesus 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, it’s seriously amazing. He never says anything at all though it sounds utterly exquisite. It’s a gift nonetheless. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@intermilan9731
@intermilan9731 Жыл бұрын
@@tiagobjesus He is just trying to show off his English.
@qustuntunia8689
@qustuntunia8689 Жыл бұрын
Yeah you’re right…but have you read Quran it makes life easier for everyone
@VisceralDisgust
@VisceralDisgust 7 жыл бұрын
So impressed by Sam and his colleague. There's no replacing Hitch, but damn he comes pretty close.
@kayem3824
@kayem3824 6 жыл бұрын
Gab on Dirt His colleague looks lik a pimp.
@Benjaminsp2004
@Benjaminsp2004 6 жыл бұрын
His colleague is Dr. Michael Shermer, director and publisher of Skeptic Magazine, he's probably the most prominent skeptic in the world, you should join the skeptic society, get a monthly magazine and a little gold lapel pin that says "Skeptic" :)
@Benjaminsp2004
@Benjaminsp2004 6 жыл бұрын
And you're right, Hitch will never be replaced, can't be replaced :( He was unquestionably the most impressive intellectual and public speaker of our time
@ricksflicks-
@ricksflicks- 6 жыл бұрын
Hitch had an effortless literary style that no one else will probably ever have and he wasn't afraid to be ruthless. Love the guy. But I think Sam Harris has a calm dignity that might make a lot of people consider his position. He really knows his arguments and texts too.
@tankbuggeru
@tankbuggeru 2 жыл бұрын
Hitch was a genius orator, with lots of insight in history, but I don't appreciate him as much in an atheist debate as Sam Harris and Matt Dillahunty who are always dissecting and breaking down theistic arguments, taking them head on. Hitchens, Krauss and Dawkins usually just dismiss religion as BS straight up, and talk about how stupid it is. In the latter, both sides are just preaching to their own, and aren't trying to have a proper argument.
@lronSausage
@lronSausage 10 жыл бұрын
Respect to the theoretical physicist who stood up to help sam and mike call deepak on his epic bullshit.
@frost1947
@frost1947 10 жыл бұрын
Deepak is thin-skinned to the degree that his ego gets in the way of a real debate, he imagines the subject, regardless of what it is, is about and exclusively for himself.....
@SS-qp2ex
@SS-qp2ex 6 жыл бұрын
He's verbally so emotional and aggressive, it totally undermines any knowledge he might have.
@aaronmatzkin7966
@aaronmatzkin7966 2 жыл бұрын
@@SS-qp2ex to be fair, his arguments and his position also totally undermine any knowledge he might have.
@blackboxdisease
@blackboxdisease 11 жыл бұрын
Sam almost has it dead on. This guy has some brains.
@ryanmartinez7018
@ryanmartinez7018 11 жыл бұрын
idk, when i watch Sam Harris talked to RIchard Dawkins & Christopher Hitchens, Harris seems like the runt of the batch.
@adabsurdum3314
@adabsurdum3314 6 ай бұрын
He has intellect, yes, but what impresses me far more is his instinct for the relevant: wisdom
@DLFfitness1
@DLFfitness1 2 жыл бұрын
When life gets tough, people turn to fantasy.
@DLFfitness1
@DLFfitness1 2 жыл бұрын
Self delusion is real, and is impossible to debate.
@qustuntunia8689
@qustuntunia8689 Жыл бұрын
And where do you turn to when you’re sad, or depressed yourself, Sam Harris …what does atheist have to offer - nothing … read Quran it clarifies everything …. Then try to make these nonsensical judgemental statements prof nonsense
@scorpionsubzero9066
@scorpionsubzero9066 Жыл бұрын
@@qustuntunia8689 even if it offers something, doesn't mean it's real. If it is useful for you, enjoy. But don't try to convince people that it's real
@ragged_claws_scuttling
@ragged_claws_scuttling Жыл бұрын
It’s true. My understanding of Kabbalistic mystical Judaism, and it’s central text the Zohar, evolved quickly in the wake of the Spanish Inqusition. Many of those expelled were utterly disillusioned. Then mystical religiosity followed.
@davidarbogast37
@davidarbogast37 Жыл бұрын
Well it's more like people turn to things that give them comfort and for some people religious belief fills that void. I'm not justifying it, just expanding on the talking point.
@hjalmar.poelzig
@hjalmar.poelzig 10 жыл бұрын
You cannot equate religion and science -- science is based on physical evidence and rational analysis, this is much more objective and legitimate than beliefs based on holy writ or ecclesiastical authority. Science is motivated by curiosity and an honest desire to understand how things work, religion is motivated by a welter of conflicting emotional issues and a desire to manipulate the minds of others.
@bo0tsy1
@bo0tsy1 10 жыл бұрын
yes, thankfully harris was there to shut the love guru up.
@sudopeople
@sudopeople 10 жыл бұрын
I love this comment so much. The only thing worse than that movie is Deepak.
@wrayy10
@wrayy10 10 жыл бұрын
Whammy! I enjoy both those comments! But the only thing worse than Deepak is when Deepak's bad ideas have bad consequences in the lives of others. I feel for him also - assuming he wasn't deeply pleased with himself throughout the experience. I suspect the closest I have been to experiencing Deepak's state of dissonance was the one negative mushroom trip I had - or maybe what's more comparable is whenever I decide to purchase unnecessary entertainment. Regardless, it is highly consequential that we discover the particular scientific remedy for Deepak's condition - for if Deepak can be convinced it surely follows that all intelligent life forms can!
@johnmayer2012
@johnmayer2012 5 жыл бұрын
I used to follow and read Deepak Chopra until this debate. I have been following Sam since then. History, and now this debate, proves that logic always trumps philosophy.
@kaykovuskerteus90
@kaykovuskerteus90 2 жыл бұрын
Deepak is not a philosopher. Philosophers do make very good insights about human existence and mind actually before science can explain mechanisms.
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas Жыл бұрын
not really something to boast about mate.
@anthonythompson1680
@anthonythompson1680 9 ай бұрын
Deepak is a charlatan
@giovanic2381
@giovanic2381 10 жыл бұрын
I guess the universal conscientiousness didn't teach Deepak humility.
@jdl2180
@jdl2180 2 жыл бұрын
That doesn't mean that Universal Consciousness isn't true
@timbradley7749
@timbradley7749 9 жыл бұрын
Oh, man. Deepak says that the moon more-or-less doesn't exist if no conscious entity happens to be looking at it. Ridiculous.
@ayushmann5897
@ayushmann5897 2 жыл бұрын
he is correct, who will tell that moon is there if no one is looking
@oldmate86
@oldmate86 2 жыл бұрын
@@ayushmann5897 Things don't disappear because you're not looking at them
@wasteKa
@wasteKa 2 жыл бұрын
the double slit experiment shows there is very strange things happening when it comes to our observing
@ayushmann5897
@ayushmann5897 2 жыл бұрын
@@oldmate86 the one who knows this is also gone
@paulj3873
@paulj3873 2 жыл бұрын
@@wasteKa agreed, perception and reality are starting to become a slippery slope.
@MasterSpade
@MasterSpade 6 жыл бұрын
Einsteins true thoughts on religion: “It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.” - Albert Einstein (Letter Dated 24 March 1954 Included in “Albert Einstein: The Human Side”) From that same ^^^ letter, he saw theistic religion as a man-made fiction: “The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still purely primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation, no matter how subtle, can change this for me.” Funny when religious people try to claim Sir Al as theirs.
@geniusofmozart
@geniusofmozart 11 жыл бұрын
"In the absence of a conscious entity, the moon remains a radically ambiguous and ceaselessly flowing quantum soup". That statement from Deepak Chopra is literally the funniest thing I have ever heard.
@aishaaisha6626
@aishaaisha6626 3 жыл бұрын
What does the first 3 sentence mean 😂😂
@marypeterson8118
@marypeterson8118 2 жыл бұрын
That statement is going to be my new mantra when I meditate.
@juju2345
@juju2345 2 жыл бұрын
That would be true if one assigns consciousness to quarks. LoL2. Thanks for the quote.
@432hertz2
@432hertz2 2 жыл бұрын
What he meant was moon would be a collective stardust and gas
@bobbailey7235
@bobbailey7235 2 жыл бұрын
And also the stupidest remark ever spoken
@truwth
@truwth 11 жыл бұрын
1:06:30 This exchange is awesome. Deepak's definition of consciousness: "A super position of possibilities". Then he sits back, smugly smirking, thinking "Nailed it !" and waiting for clarity to wash over the faces. Response: "Well, uhh... alright, I know what each of those words means, but ...". Says it all.
@broom6958
@broom6958 10 жыл бұрын
Deepak has the emotional maturity of a teenager. Every immature creature needs a crutch to be able to live. His crutch is the spirituality. Not having to know is emotional maturity. Furthermore, I have the feeling Sam is completely aware of what is going on the whole time and nothing can take away his confidence. This is character.
@qustuntunia8689
@qustuntunia8689 Жыл бұрын
Because Sam is debating with a person who’s book has been changed so he has nothing to stand. Go and read Quran and then see if Sam is still your leader
@qustuntunia8689
@qustuntunia8689 10 ай бұрын
but so far we have seen, is that lack of islam leads to destruction for example: Free sex leads to killing of unborn babies, destroys marriages, destroy kids psychologically, free drugs/alcohol destroys decency, persons and society and make people behave like a animals, marriageless couples have no security/no commitment they f**k around and run away from responsibility that comes after sex and union, the list goes on and on …. look at your morals and ethics when it comes to war - your athiest friends are killing babies and bombing hospitals and Gaza. What we have is Quran and the teaching of Prophet, where all things are made clear, 1. no sex before a written marriage contract with eye witnesses, no killing of animals, no destruction of plants, no bombardment of unarmed civilians, God says in the Quran to kill one human unjustly is to kill an entire humanity. God is not weak, He says fight until the oppression is completely rid off with all means, looks at the rights of women in Islam and you'll be blown away, Athiests, and non muslims - you must know that Quran is a book which says it is compulsory for men and women to get themselves highly educated in all sciences and arts etc....what are you non-muslims on about honestly. Seriously what can you offer? what has athism and Godlessnes has done to societies - just open your eyes and ears and see - you will be ashamed if you are sincere! Please again go and read Quran - especially if you love science May God Guide us all and prevent from these nonsensical uneducated bullS**t
@ManashSarkarVidyapithson
@ManashSarkarVidyapithson 2 жыл бұрын
Watch Chopra's expression when Sam mentions Richard Dawkins' book about the Einstein quote. Chopra has the exact same air that Voldemort has when someone mentions Dumbledore.
@JohnVC
@JohnVC 4 жыл бұрын
13:05 Deepak drops a God of the Gaps 19:10 Deepak drops an Appeal to Authority 19:53 Deepak drops a God of the Gaps 24:03 The moderator shifts the burden of proof in a question 29:00 Deepak drops a No True Scotsman 38:52 The moderator shifts the burden of proof 50:08 Deepak drops an Argument from Authority... I give up, there were too many assertions without evidence to keep track of.
@qustuntunia8689
@qustuntunia8689 10 ай бұрын
but so far we have seen, is that lack of islam leads to destruction for example: Free sex leads to killing of unborn babies, destroys marriages, destroy kids psychologically, free drugs/alcohol destroys decency, persons and society and make people behave like a animals, marriageless couples have no security/no commitment they f**k around and run away from responsibility that comes after sex and union, the list goes on and on …. look at your morals and ethics when it comes to war - your athiest friends are killing babies and bombing hospitals and Gaza. What we have is Quran and the teaching of Prophet, where all things are made clear, 1. no sex before a written marriage contract with eye witnesses, no killing of animals, no destruction of plants, no bombardment of unarmed civilians, God says in the Quran to kill one human unjustly is to kill an entire humanity. God is not weak, He says fight until the oppression is completely rid off with all means, looks at the rights of women in Islam and you'll be blown away, Athiests, and non muslims - you must know that Quran is a book which says it is compulsory for men and women to get themselves highly educated in all sciences and arts etc....what are you non-muslims on about honestly. Seriously what can you offer? what has athism and Godlessnes has done to societies - just open your eyes and ears and see - you will be ashamed if you are sincere! Please again go and read Quran - especially if you love science May God Guide us all and prevent from these nonsensical uneducated bullS**t
@sdcisk2799
@sdcisk2799 10 жыл бұрын
"You think they're here to rescue you? Save your soul? Forget it. Control! That's what they're after. Control, control!" -Terence Mckenna
@Serlith
@Serlith 7 жыл бұрын
I am deeply and profoundly disturbed by the hour-long conversation Sam Harris and Michael Shermer had with a walking personification of a Dunning-Kruger Effect.
@Benderrr111
@Benderrr111 9 жыл бұрын
I recognize Sam Harris but who is the other smart guy in the debate? The one who called Deepak's arguments woo woo. I like him!
@Benderrr111
@Benderrr111 9 жыл бұрын
lol thanks )
@dnbo6njak
@dnbo6njak 9 жыл бұрын
Michael Shermer.
@Benderrr111
@Benderrr111 9 жыл бұрын
dnbo6njak Thank you!!
@kayem3824
@kayem3824 6 жыл бұрын
Bender Bending Rodriguez The one who looks like a second hand car salesman.
@eatshbob6577
@eatshbob6577 6 жыл бұрын
Kay Em lol Michael Shermer does look like a car salesman but he's a genius
@BioNova9
@BioNova9 9 жыл бұрын
1:03:57 Deepak starts to look like a fool. Sam said be careful because this audience might know more than you.
@anthonydean6085
@anthonydean6085 9 жыл бұрын
Chroma Red that was awesome. Deepak was properly exposed and put in his place.
@BioNova9
@BioNova9 9 жыл бұрын
Anthony Dean It's outrageous how he is constantly corrected by his peers.
@Omar_Little
@Omar_Little 9 жыл бұрын
+Chroma Red "starts"
@y12bute
@y12bute 9 жыл бұрын
+Chroma Red Well actually Sam ia no wonder boy. I will be posting some comments soon about the fallacies of his statements. It is also possible that much of the crowd is not up to date with some of the attempts at synthesis of spirituality and physics/science. Of course these are early attempts and in the future they will become more cogent. Deepak is just trying to present some of these attempts and all power to him for doing so. Sam was just being a smart aleck and trying to win the debate. Actually physics and science without the truths of spirituality are just inert mechanisms--but most of you here won't agree as you revel in mechanistic laws and insentient principles. Physics and science without the higher creative genius consciousness (known as GOD) is like a car without its driver (and please do not bring in Dawkins with his silly arguments about a complex creator being improbable and therefore impossible, because that argument is not his and was seen as childish by more advanced intellects).
@aaronmizzou
@aaronmizzou 9 жыл бұрын
+y12bute I sort of agree with what you are saying. In my opinion, physics and science don't have to have the "truths" of spirituality to back them up. I'm all for science trying to figure that out though. If they can actually create testable physics/spiritual experiments and draw some conclusions then I'm all for it. But right now I think "spirituality" is a personal thing. Physics and science are everywhere. Maybe there is a unifying force, but that is yet to be determined. That might be the God of the future they are talking about.
@lnAmberClad
@lnAmberClad 2 жыл бұрын
"Well then what do you want spirituality to be? Because it's *not* going away" Little did she know Sam would go on to create the best meditation app with accompanied interviews about inner spirituality to ever be created
@Caryutunarkzew
@Caryutunarkzew 10 жыл бұрын
Those two on the right are really not up to par to be able to talk with the likes of Michael and Sam Harris. They really aren't.
@HugeVictor
@HugeVictor 9 жыл бұрын
Whenever I watch religious debates I try my hardest to listen to the point made and weigh the validity of arguments on their own basis without allowing myself to be biased in any way because at the end of the day if you go in with your ears plugged, you don't really learn anything do you? With that being said, it was extremely difficult to fight the sensation that Chopra was literally speaking out of his asshole as he regurgitates all the fancy words he can out there so that something will stick creating sentences that sound great, but really belong written on a roll of toilet paper as they have absolutely no meaning.. I got a little sick when I went to his website to see he charges $2000 for a four day seminar. Con artist is the best way to describe him.
@daviddolbear8104
@daviddolbear8104 3 жыл бұрын
Listening to Deepak Chopra is torture
@0004W
@0004W 3 ай бұрын
He’s a a**whole of first water
@SierraBravoOneNiner
@SierraBravoOneNiner 10 жыл бұрын
Chopra wants to "redefine" god? Is this the ultimate "god of the gaps"? There is zero evidence of "god", so let's "invent" a new definition of god to generate new gaps?
@SierraBravoOneNiner
@SierraBravoOneNiner 10 жыл бұрын
***** "At the very core of all religious Intentions Is this common spirituality" - you sound just like Chopra. You make bold statements and assertions without the slightest attempt to support your claims. "God has /always/ been a "metaphor" for meaning and beauty and now the word God Is finally honoring that truth" is just meaningless babble - I'm surprised you couldn't work some quatum physics "woo" in there. "When we say God, we've always meant the same thing, we've always been Intuitively speaking about a transcendent experience" - have you considered delusion instead?
@SierraBravoOneNiner
@SierraBravoOneNiner 10 жыл бұрын
***** " I'm sure you know about the God helmet" - the converted snowmobile helmet which - supposedly - creates a "transcendental state"? If it worked, then there would be no "god", merely misfiring neurons, but as NO researcher has been able to reproduce this "effect" self reported by Persinger your point is moot. Perhaps, instead of "woo", you might actually try reading some scientific works? Maybe start with "Neuroscience Letters" in 2005, or "The Psychologist" (25 (7): 520-523) - both articles which pint out just how silly the "god helmet" actually is. What's so hard to understand? That only people WITHOUT science degrees talk the type of tripe you do.
@SierraBravoOneNiner
@SierraBravoOneNiner 10 жыл бұрын
***** Do you not even read your own posts? You SPECIFICALLY referred to the "god hat" - now your trying to conflate that useless piece of woo with transcranial magnetic stimulation. You are just as bad and deluded as chopra. You've never read a science text, never studied any science, just picked up fringe babble and spruke it as if you're knowledgeable of a topic. You're a moron.
@SierraBravoOneNiner
@SierraBravoOneNiner 10 жыл бұрын
***** " If you'd be clear with your critiques" - well let me try this tack? YOU are doing exactly what chopra is doing. The mainstream religions have "god" wrong - YOUR definition is correct. Chopra is wrong about "god" - YOUR definition is correct. And the FUN part is you assert this without the slightest support for any "god" even existing, or how YOU came to know arguably the most important truth in the universe when all others have failed. I do not "misunderstand" you. I understand you all too well - you're a moron.
@SierraBravoOneNiner
@SierraBravoOneNiner 10 жыл бұрын
***** LOL you're a real loon.
@TheDayIsNotLost
@TheDayIsNotLost 9 жыл бұрын
This is great to see Dan facilitating the debate. I've just read his book and before that a lot of Sam Harris. To see how serendipitous this alignment of spiritual inquirers is makes me smile
@qustuntunia8689
@qustuntunia8689 Жыл бұрын
You can even laugh if you want….but have you read Quran boss
@MarcusHitch
@MarcusHitch 2 жыл бұрын
When you say "DEBATE FULL", is it just me that expects the full debate? Apart from the obvious editing, at 24:39 when Michael mentions Jean's comment... erm... where is the comment? She hasn't spoken yet! At least according to this "full debate"... 🤔
@VtheVowel_ZA
@VtheVowel_ZA 9 жыл бұрын
1:09:35 Sam Harris just spits so much knowledge here
@aaronmizzou
@aaronmizzou 9 жыл бұрын
+Velaphi “VtheVowel” Ramphele I dig it. Spot on, but he just skips right over the biggest rub for most atheist I think. "Tell each other that death is an illusion" ...."pretending to know things we don't know". I mean that makes tons of sense to you and me, but a true "believer" is just that, the beleive even more then we believe the science and that gets scary. I don't even go there with my family anymore because it is take sooooo personal. And I understand, it is personal. But it kinda makes me mad when we get kids involved. Like Harris, I almost see it as child abuse with the current state of science. That good little Christian family thing. uhg, It just gets so complicated. I wish I could be as up front as Sam here, but it would be ugly. The one place we can put our foot down is in education and science. When a Christian starts bringing science into the discussion they get smashed.
@Sinclairelim
@Sinclairelim 10 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen the entire debate, but it sounds to me that Deepak Chopra is a substance dualist, who uses the "god of the gaps" argument to explain unknown, and does not define "god" specificially, so he can get away with it. He also seems to confuse metaphor with reality.
@Pariahmachina
@Pariahmachina 6 жыл бұрын
"The Moon is a soup" - Deepak Chopra
@ghollisjr
@ghollisjr 10 жыл бұрын
As a physicist I cringe every time one of these religious types claims to have a basis for God in quantum mechanics or some other bullshit. Especially when they introduce their own metaphysics and masquerade this as physics. E.g. in this talk Deepak tried to say that without a conscious observer the universe is in an indeterminant state. Nothing in the entire field of physics states anything implying anything remotely similar to this claim. In fact, this type of claim is necessarily metaphysics and not science, since to test this would require there to be no conscious observers, which would mean we still wouldn't know the answer.
@Washington0Jefferson
@Washington0Jefferson 10 жыл бұрын
1) You insult deepak for making statements about some UNTESTABLE nature of the universe -- but please remember current scientific theory suggests 12 UNTESTABLE DIMENSIONS. right ? Further... 2) the observer effect shows that without a human observer, photons behave as WAVES or they behave as if in a state of POTENTIAL -- yet when observed they become PARTICLES, behaving as physical matter. So is it MIND-BLOWINGLY OBTUSE of Deepak to hypothesize that a conscious observer MAY BE NECESSARY for all energy to behave as physical matter ? It's an extrapolation - YES - but it's not incoherent. That doesn't sound any more CRAZY than saying things Materialist Scientists say: "We popped out of nothing." "God is unnecessary in our crazy theories, therefore god is unlikely." "Material substances CAUSE immaterial phenomena." i.e. Brain CAUSES Mind. Really? Does matter follow rules of energy ? Or does Energy follow rules of matter? Who is leading this dance ? Answer: ENERGY LEADS. *Immaterial Forces/Causes DICTATE Material Responses/Effects.* PS - what makes you a "physicist"? Because i've been studying physics for 10 years - does that make ME a physicist? According to the Definition of Expert, that alone makes me an EXPERT in physics. Do i need to get PAID by someone else to call myself a physicist? Do i need a piece of paper from a physicist with his blessing to call myself a physicist? What makes YOU more of an expert than ME? You didn't demonstrate mastery of EITHER TOPIC: Science or Spirituality in your comment.
@ghollisjr
@ghollisjr 10 жыл бұрын
String theory/M-theory/etc. is not a scientific theory as it has not been corroborated by experimentation, it's a theory only in the mathematical sense. But that's a side note since if it is confirmed by evidence then your points still stand. First: If the theory _requires_ the assumption of more dimensions in order for its conclusions to hold, and if it is _verified by experiment_, then it becomes the best explanation we have. Until then it is foolish to believe these untested aspects of string theory. And if it turns out that string theory is in principle untestable, then it will be disqualified from science. Second: Deepak did not merely hypothesize that concious observers are necessary, he stated it as a fact. Since it is not actually a fact, he was dishonest. And like I showed, this claim is in principle untestable, whereas the extra dimensions may make testable predictions. Third: Crazy things can turn out to be true; what's important is not how crazy one thinks the proposition is, but whether or not any _evidence_ exists to back it up. When you re-define "nothing" to mean what physicists actually mean, it's not actually inconsistent as it is with the philosophical definition, and moreover there is _evidence_ backing it up. Fourth: Energy and matter are interchangeable; therefore the question of who-rules-whom is meaningless. The laws of nature are trends we observe; energy and matter follow these trends, and neither rules the other. Ad. PS: What makes you a physicist, or scientist in general, is whether you _do_ science. Reading scientific literature doesn't qualify you, though it is admirable to do so. Getting paid doesn't qualify you, hell, look at the anti-climate-science guys bought off by corporations. You have to try to create new hypotheses, try and test competing explanations with experiment, and ultimately present your findings to the world, allowing for criticism unlike those who try to censor skeptical opinions. In short: you have to _do_ science to be a scientist. I don't claim to be more of an expert than you; I don't even claim to be an expert. I just _do_ physics, particle physics to be precise.
@pruebavideocurs
@pruebavideocurs 10 жыл бұрын
ghollisjr I am not a physicist.Your last sentence made me clear why while I was reading your post I was feeling clarity and logical coherence. This why I admire science and scientists.
@MarcusHitch
@MarcusHitch 2 жыл бұрын
I did learn something from this debate. I always knew the word for when secularism strays onto religions turf. Religion calls that "blasphemy". I now know there's a word for when spirituality strays into sciences domain, and that word is "woowoo". 😂👍
@PlanetoftheeAtheists
@PlanetoftheeAtheists 10 жыл бұрын
Sam Harris is just incredible.
@intermilan9731
@intermilan9731 Жыл бұрын
Nah. He is a coward who sold himself out to wokism and Neo Marxists.
@arielfe
@arielfe 10 жыл бұрын
Am i the only one who gets really irritated by how loud deepak is talking and how agrresive he seems to be? it really makes listening to him so much more unpleasent.
@JosephNordenbrockartistraction
@JosephNordenbrockartistraction 10 жыл бұрын
Many types of people get loud when they are defending what they believe. Yes he is abrasive to a civil conversation. I've never liked being yelled at. It's very distracting and I think quite rude. Sam is a cool dude AND he talks sensible with style and wit. I think it's funny when the woman on the right raises her hand for a turn to speak.
@aishaaisha6626
@aishaaisha6626 3 жыл бұрын
@@JosephNordenbrockartistraction what religion does he believe in
@brettperry3737
@brettperry3737 9 жыл бұрын
has anyone else ever noticed that Deepak never manages to string together a coherent sentence? He just mumbles whatever comes to mind at the time, yet somehow there are people out there who find his message quite profound, even though none of em know what that message is.
@aaronmizzou
@aaronmizzou 9 жыл бұрын
+Brett Perry The beauty of spiritual woo woo. Say some complicated stuff that is mystical and throw in some quantum shit and you're all good.
@marcomeme4875
@marcomeme4875 11 жыл бұрын
35:04 LMAO Sam was so damn close to facepalming there
@Hollis_has_questions
@Hollis_has_questions 3 жыл бұрын
It’s 2021. I miss this Sam Harris. The interviews and the meditation app just don’t do it for me like the clarity, reasoned argument, and deadpan humor of the philosophical neuroscientist of a decade ago. Also, I had forgotten Jean and her inability to participate in a rational discussion; both she and Deepak demonstrate the seductive quality of woo-woo in persuading people who don’t understand science, that they have a mystical grasp of that which they do not actually understand. Deepak and Jean are demonstrating the seduction that fosters the Dunning-Krugered arrogance of ignorance.
@davidsheriff9274
@davidsheriff9274 3 жыл бұрын
Very well said, but Sam is still giving great speeches and interviews. I tried the meditation thing, I gave up after a week, my dog kept distracting me. I think Sam does these kinds of debates just for the money. He is trying to hide his disgust and give the audience something to listen to, but Shermer can't hide it,he looks like he is watching an episode of The Long island medium. He just wants his check and get out of there. It's sad to think how rich Chopra has become flinging this horse shit, but I guess there's good money to be made being a naked emperor.
@Hollis_has_questions
@Hollis_has_questions 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidsheriff9274 It’s always easier to make money off of ignorant people who want a new drug. It’s not religion per se, but it’s religion. And whatever they’re selling, it’s always Soma. Also, when I said “interviews,” I meant the interviews that Sam conducts on his dot org.
@DeaconShadow
@DeaconShadow 8 жыл бұрын
Holy God I am so glad I've watched the truncated version of this video. Deepak's opening is mindless garbage. And you can see how Sam is squirming in his seat because of how embarrassing Chopras yakking really is.
@thecuriousatheist3213
@thecuriousatheist3213 2 жыл бұрын
Is there an unedited version of this debate?
@shanephillips4011
@shanephillips4011 2 жыл бұрын
Deepak is so clueless, he's great at mixing a word salad, but never says anything.
@konberner170
@konberner170 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, Sam did really well here. Deepak's problem is that he jumps to conclusions constantly, whereas Sam and Michael only jump to them occasionally. It is true that the metaphysics of materialism have not been proven, but Deepak's conjectures, being stated as absolute truths, are a much worse case of presumption and so *more* against the spirit of science. Indeed, they are effectively closer to religion, which he seems to reject and embrace in some unclear manner (but appears to be depending on how convenient it is to his presumptions).
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 2 жыл бұрын
I've been saying for a long time that I don't believe in science; I believe in scientific method. That requires coming up with theories and *repeatable* tests that can be used to test those theories. And when somebody can come up with a new repeatable test that makes existing theories to fail, we start to look for a new explanation. And if the Bible or Koran or any other religious writing provided *any* theory that could explain the observations we have, I would believe in those, too. The major difference between religion and scientific method is that scientific method assumes that the theory we have is just an approximation and we're constantly improving the theory and tests. Religion has "rules set in stone" and no matter how much contrary information you can find in nature, the religion cannot be ever fixed to better match with reality. That alone makes me non-religious in long run because I want to understand nature and surrounding world.
@konberner170
@konberner170 2 жыл бұрын
@@MikkoRantalainen You are generalizing about religion in ways that, to me, mean that you don't understand it. Further, if you think of something like "thou shall not kill", can you detail in what way this is merely opinion and is not grounded in anything? What is the contrary information that makes murder OK? What would it look like?
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 2 жыл бұрын
@@konberner170 I agree that "thou shall not kill" seems clear enough if we *assume* that killing means killing another adult human being. However, when people start to argue that that alone should be enough to disallow stem cell research, we have a big problem. Of course, a sane solution would be to amend that piece of text to explicitly mention that this is about people (whatever definition you want) things would be much more clear. But you cannot amend the text due *religious* reasons. Religion is not about getting perfect set of rules in long run. It's about trying to follow some arcane set of rules. Show me a religion what allows amending rules (I mean rules comparable to the Bible for that religion, not opening hours for a church) and still continue to be called the same religion! I've yet to learn about such religion but I'd be happy to learn about such a religion. Compare this to scientific method that always tries to find the truth and simply creates models (called "theory" in natural sciences) that try to describe the reality and whenever new evidence is found that is contrary the model, the model will be fixed to match the reality instead of coming up with some "interpretation" for the model or evidence that allows skipping modifying the model. If the Bible offered the best explanation of reality, anybody using scientific method should gravitate towards it. However, it seems that the more we know about reality, the further we get from the Bible. And I would assume that the same is true for all sacred writings of any religion.
@konberner170
@konberner170 2 жыл бұрын
​@@MikkoRantalainen Buddhism doesn't even have rules. It instead has "training experiments". For example, you can try not drinking for a few months and see if your life gets better or not. Buddha even said in paraphrase, "Don't believe anything anyone says, including me." Taoism is about not doing and allowing life to be as it is. It points out that the value in a pot is the emptiness inside it that allows contents and not the pot itself. So, your openness to life is what is of value. It goes on to specifically critique fixed rules and moralizing and points out that "the good" cannot be determined through moralizing, as it is situational. Christianity is associated with lots of rules and the original bible even has the 10 commandments, but note that the beatitudes of Jesus, who claimed to not replace but to clarify God message, are all observations and not commandments. So there are at least 2 and perhaps 3 examples of how a strawman version of religion that takes the lowest form and claims it to be the entirety of it is missing some really great stuff. That said, well done on acknowledging that ethics is not doable by science, and something else is needed. Call that other thing what you'd like, but for some, religion is the term they use.
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 2 жыл бұрын
@@konberner170 I would argue that, a training experiments such as "try not drinking and see what happens" as you gave as paraphrased example for Buddhism, is not a religion - as in a religion shared by multiple people. Instead, that's some rough guidelines or method to improve your own life based on trial and error on your personal life. But the results are not applicable to other people and are definitely not rules that should be everybody with the same religion. If one defines Buddhism like that, then I guess I'm Buddhist even though I'd usually claim to be metaphysical naturalist if a single label is required for some reason.
@MudderFukker-m6g
@MudderFukker-m6g 11 жыл бұрын
God damn!...Sam is The Man. He has an Incredible ability to politely call out bullshit, and very clearly point out the fallacious leaps in Chopra's analogies.
@DH-nq1mu
@DH-nq1mu Жыл бұрын
The fact that anyone would clap the garbage coming out of Chopra’s mouth makes me think this is a losing battle.
@ishmaelbrown6526
@ishmaelbrown6526 10 жыл бұрын
"Alright, I know what each of those words mean..." Jesus, such a great moment!
@ASkepticalHumanOnYouTube
@ASkepticalHumanOnYouTube 11 жыл бұрын
Sam Harris saying the words "spooky physics" just made my night.
@EmperorsNewWardrobe
@EmperorsNewWardrobe 9 жыл бұрын
I love it when Jean talks, it's a demonstration every time - and excuse the contradicting metaphors - of lighting fast drifting off the point
@philistine2nd
@philistine2nd 2 ай бұрын
Deepak keeps saying "lead to other conversations." What other conversations? Let's have this one. I'm not going anywhere.
@cmrdecc6516
@cmrdecc6516 5 жыл бұрын
6:19 that Indian guy smiling at the beginning. Priceless 😂 Little did he know a storm was coming.
@theProcratinator
@theProcratinator 10 жыл бұрын
I dislike the cuts in this video.
@nbgarrett88
@nbgarrett88 10 жыл бұрын
This! Don't put FULL in the title if it's not the FULL discourse.
@ShawnPitman
@ShawnPitman 10 жыл бұрын
Chopra has to be one of the most annoying and insistent sociopaths ever. He's just not participating in reality.
@leicbri
@leicbri 10 жыл бұрын
What a shame Joseph Campbell isn't still around to engage in a debate like this. He'd evelate the discussion considerably, I think.
@fuzzywzhe
@fuzzywzhe 10 жыл бұрын
Deepak just doesn't understand physics. 23:18 The observer effect isn't what he thinks it is. If you observe a very small "particle" (which is really a wave) you have to hit it with a relatively MASSIVE particle (which is really a wave) to see it. You effect the state of that particle in order to observe it. If you hit it with a photon of light, and you don't bother to observe it because you're away from your electron microscope, that doesn't mean or even imply that the fact you're not observing will effect it's state. I hate Deepak so much. He is absolutely, positively, full of shit. I really hate that physics is made intentionally difficult to understand when it's described to people. I mean, MAYBE if you don't observe what you see under the electron microscope it WILL effect what is being observed, but how do you design an experiment to demonstrate that is plausible? A lot of the though experiments like this come out of the 1960's when people were just doing too much goddamned LSD and not enough critical thinking.
@JosephNordenbrockartistraction
@JosephNordenbrockartistraction 9 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the laughter at religious guesswork in the modern times.
@PeterWraaeMarino
@PeterWraaeMarino 11 жыл бұрын
i'm glade we have people like Sam here in the world!
@qustuntunia8689
@qustuntunia8689 Жыл бұрын
No boss, go and read Quran that’s where reality lies ….well if you haven’t read it don’t get upset …just go and read first
@pseudonym4893
@pseudonym4893 10 жыл бұрын
Why is this so choppily edited? Whole segments of video are just skipped over and I have no idea what or how much I missed. Is there an uncut version of this somewhere? Also the volume is all over the place. This recording is very poor.
@marypeterson8118
@marypeterson8118 2 жыл бұрын
Deepak couldn't get over the "woo woo" comment.
@Kth4life
@Kth4life 2 жыл бұрын
Deepak is a quantum comedian.
@qustuntunia8689
@qustuntunia8689 Жыл бұрын
Forget deepak, go and read Quran which clarifies all doubts …or bring something like it before lecture like a professor
@Kth4life
@Kth4life Жыл бұрын
@@qustuntunia8689 I have. It clarifies that it’s written by humans without any divine intervention.
@tulpas93
@tulpas93 Жыл бұрын
​@Qustun tunia I read it, and studied Arabic to better understand it. It led me to reject religion and theism entirely, especially Islam. While there are many good Muslims, they are good DESPITE the dispicable immorality Quran & Hadith. While I abhor your favorite book, I wish you all the best. Peace to you.
@bisquickable
@bisquickable 9 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Deepak will ever want to appear on stage vs. Sam Harris again. Deepak is obviously high on himself, so he may not know how he comes across. Buffoon is the word that comes to mind.
@billbradford7898
@billbradford7898 2 жыл бұрын
80 million net worth... that is why Chopra sells it so hard with such insistence...
@ASkepticalHumanOnYouTube
@ASkepticalHumanOnYouTube 11 жыл бұрын
23:35 - "In the absence of a conscious entity, the moon remains a radically ambiguous and ceaselessly flowing quantum soup" wat
@2010paultron
@2010paultron 11 жыл бұрын
How is it possible Deepac is not laughed off of stage?
@Luddmeistern
@Luddmeistern 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Sam would use these types of arguments against Jordan Peterson in their current discussions. It seems that his arguments have devolved over time. Not the arguments that are directed to Deepak's new age BS but those that are more aimed to Jean. Specifically his opening statement at 8:30 One of Jordan's argument against Sam is "who are you to define God? or assume which god people believe in". It is a fact that most Christians believe in the "invisible person" type of God and not Jordan's sophisticated definition which has real consequences in the world. If the majority of Christians had the same definition of God as Jordan have, most "new atheists" wouldn't have any issue with religion.
@isidoreaerys8745
@isidoreaerys8745 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. By the majority of evangelical Christian’s in America’s definition, Catholics aren’t true Christian’s. Petersons beliefs would be considered downright atheist if he could communicate them to his audience clearly in one sitting.
@maxwell4431
@maxwell4431 2 жыл бұрын
From your information here, it would seem that Jordan falls directly under the category of religious moderates that silences the very real criticisms of religious fundamentalists
@Luddmeistern
@Luddmeistern 7 ай бұрын
@@maxwell4431 Ironically Jordan criticizes the moderate left for silencing legitimate criticism against radical leftism, but he commits the same crime with christianity. It's like he's afraid off alienating a large part off his audience.
@joanmazza2540
@joanmazza2540 10 жыл бұрын
Why were Jean Houston's comments edited out? At about 20 minutes into the video.
@irishgermanguy8
@irishgermanguy8 11 жыл бұрын
its like a stanford grad arguing with a 1st grader...
@veronicats100
@veronicats100 11 жыл бұрын
I can't watch Deepak Chopra. He has nothing to say. Well actually he promotes brain damage.
@TheOracle1956
@TheOracle1956 10 жыл бұрын
My thinking exactly. He speaks a lot of words, but says nothing. Deepak reminds me of a used car salesman. Notice how Sam Harris measures his responses, and how thoughtful and well reasoned they are. That says it all.
@veronicats100
@veronicats100 10 жыл бұрын
***** Just double talk and nonsense. Go away.
@veronicats100
@veronicats100 10 жыл бұрын
***** You had used the words spirituality concepts, and tried to give them some meaning but frankly failed miserably. Why do you think that is? Could it be that the concept does not have any interpretable meaning. Like I said just nonsense. Google the word spirituality and learn this.
@veronicats100
@veronicats100 10 жыл бұрын
***** When ideas are promoted that are patently false, and someone tries to pass it off as something worthwhile, ridicule of that idea is in order in the 21st century. If I did not do it someone else would have. Happily, there are people around today that will not let you get away with it.
@veronicats100
@veronicats100 10 жыл бұрын
***** The same thing can be said what you are writing. IF you look up the definitions of the words you are using you might see who is right and wrong. But without even knowing what you are talking about, this get us no where. However, clearly patently false ideas promoted need ridicule. It is a good thing, but with your warped sense of values you see it as a bad thing. Too bad.
@JuanHernandez-ry9dr
@JuanHernandez-ry9dr 2 жыл бұрын
Sam Harris is brilliant. His rationale is of a very wise philosopher.
@sweethands4328
@sweethands4328 Жыл бұрын
He can explain tough concepts in a very plain, understandable, and clever way 👍
@qustuntunia8689
@qustuntunia8689 10 ай бұрын
but so far we have seen, is that lack of islam leads to destruction for example: Free sex leads to killing of unborn babies, destroys marriages, destroy kids psychologically, free drugs/alcohol destroys decency, persons and society and make people behave like a animals, marriageless couples have no security/no commitment they f**k around and run away from responsibility that comes after sex and union, the list goes on and on …. look at your morals and ethics when it comes to war - your athiest friends are killing babies and bombing hospitals and Gaza. What we have is Quran and the teaching of Prophet, where all things are made clear, 1. no sex before a written marriage contract with eye witnesses, no killing of animals, no destruction of plants, no bombardment of unarmed civilians, God says in the Quran to kill one human unjustly is to kill an entire humanity. God is not weak, He says fight until the oppression is completely rid off with all means, looks at the rights of women in Islam and you'll be blown away, Athiests, and non muslims - you must know that Quran is a book which says it is compulsory for men and women to get themselves highly educated in all sciences and arts etc....what are you non-muslims on about honestly. Seriously what can you offer? what has athism and Godlessnes has done to societies - just open your eyes and ears and see - you will be ashamed if you are sincere! Please again go and read Quran - especially if you love science May God Guide us all and prevent from these nonsensical uneducated bullS**t
@paullever2085
@paullever2085 3 жыл бұрын
Chopra= absolutely and totally amazing gibberish...
@TrilokRam66
@TrilokRam66 11 жыл бұрын
Sam Harris, he's got so much dedication, he's making a difference and i'm happy he'll do much more
@Xanduur
@Xanduur 8 жыл бұрын
Deepok is such a scam artist.
@michaelortt9514
@michaelortt9514 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah like l Ron Hubbard spewing bullshit to make money. And Creflo Dollar, Joel Osteen, Jim Bakker as nauseum
@jbtownsend9535
@jbtownsend9535 8 жыл бұрын
Total pseudo-intelectual talker. He's talking nothing.
@arashparsi8463
@arashparsi8463 10 жыл бұрын
This Deepak guy is a joke. Not only are his arguments invalid, but his disrespect is embarrassing reprehensible.
@izaruburs9389
@izaruburs9389 Жыл бұрын
As someone with a PhD in physics may I politly ask 'What the fuck did I just listened to?'?
@redplumptomato
@redplumptomato 5 ай бұрын
As someone with a PHD in masturbation, I also have no fucking idea what this guy is talking about.
@LFC-Star
@LFC-Star 10 жыл бұрын
When people stop being deluded then the concept of god will cease. Indeed religion is dying throughout the world.
@dianahill5116
@dianahill5116 Жыл бұрын
When people stop obeying, enrolling, teaching, learning, promoting, supporting, participating and funding religion; religion will cease to exist.
@velvetjuzzy
@velvetjuzzy 10 жыл бұрын
i love sam harris, he is my god lol
@miimeowjess
@miimeowjess 10 жыл бұрын
yeah smart-one there is no athtiests (non-believers) in fox holes, meaning upon dying even Levien cried out to God
@velvetjuzzy
@velvetjuzzy 10 жыл бұрын
yeah i know, Sam Harris is amazing
@sudopeople
@sudopeople 10 жыл бұрын
Jessica meow Murfray There are no chaplains in fox holes.
@crimminsdaniele
@crimminsdaniele 10 жыл бұрын
Jessica meow Murfray I spent plenty of time in middle eastern fox holes, trading fire with a determined enemy. The only higher power I ever called on was air support. In fact, it seems more likely to say there are *only* atheists in foxholes; we know there is no afterlife. The truly faithful have no fear of death, and generally shout "Allahu Ackbar!"
@hipdead
@hipdead 10 жыл бұрын
Jessica meow Murfray is a lying nutjob bigot!
@joshchamplin5652
@joshchamplin5652 9 жыл бұрын
Not a full debate
@raulcheva
@raulcheva Жыл бұрын
The only time that I saw D. Chopra more at unease, was at the Caltech conference in front of a bunch of skeptic and vocal actual scientists and Phds in physics!
@moeman1984
@moeman1984 11 жыл бұрын
"Do you, Sir, believe in the infinite?" "Ah, I believe I understand to some extent the concept of infinity, I'm not sure what it means to believe in the infinite." Hahahhaha
@tuduloo7799
@tuduloo7799 6 жыл бұрын
Chopra the charlatan.
@competitivejourney4853
@competitivejourney4853 Жыл бұрын
Love Sam Harris💞
@michaelvacca1025
@michaelvacca1025 10 жыл бұрын
is there a link to the actuall "full" debate without all the editing?
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