Does God Have the Right to Take Innocent Life?

[@8thdayindependentfundament454]

God is so Omniscient he doesn't even need to "decide" to kill.

[@CB66941]

I know I am late to this video, but when I was a Christian, a pastor said something very similar and used the book of Job, specifically the passage "he gives and takes away". And my mom wasn't happy with that, and she argues that the God she worships cannot be that, and she reconciled what was in the text with what she believed by stating that this was simply what Job said about God, but may not necessarily be truthful.

[@wemuk5170]

Great ancient philosophers taught that you have to ask the right question to get to wisdom. This question is based on the false premise that God is so ‘small’ or so ‘such’ that human minds can comprehend Him and what He does. If we can understand God, then, He isn’t.

[@IdkAlcohol]

In my own perspective, It's not that God chooses people to die, he chooses which to accept.

[@alexlewis5365]

Hmm this is an interesting question. I bet for a Kantian, this would be a nightmare to try to answer. But I think for everybody else, we know that morals come from God and not that He chose those morals because they are good.

[@Nexus-jg7ev]

I'm not even sure if there are moral facts, i.e. facts about what is good, what is right, or what we have most reason to do, that do not depend on persons' subjective desires and goals. It is not impossible that there might be such facts, but it seems somewhat unlikely. If there are, however, then it seems most plausible that they are just necessary facts that are conceptually true, so they do not need any foundation, or anything that they need to correspond to so that they can be true. If moral facts (if there are any) are not necessary truths, then they are entirely arbitrary. Why is an act X good rather than bad? Or, if you subscribe to the divine nature type of divine command theory, the question is this: Why is the act of, say, murder, opposed to the divine nature, rather than aligned with it? There is either some underlying reason, or it is just a brute necessity, or a brute contingency. If it is a brute contingency, it means that it's just arbitrary happenstance that the divine nature happens to align with some acts, and be opposed to others. But to base a moral system on such an arbitrary foundation is ridiculous. On the other hand, it needs to be pointed out that the atheist can mirror all those options. It might be either necessary, arbitrary, or there might be an underlying reason for why some acts are right rather than wrong, and vice versa. But if the explanations are overall the same, then clearly the atheist (or non-theist) has advantage because they do not unnecessarily postulate an additional entity to explain things. 'Our morals come from God'. I'd like to see some defence of this claim because it just doesn't seem so obviously true to me. What does it even mean for morals to come from any person (here I take God to be a person in the broadest sense of the word, i.e. a conscious being that has mental states, where I allow for the sake of argument that having mental states does not necessarily require having a physical brain).

[@voltaicburst4279]

If they go to heaven afterwards then it's not even bad. Earth seems more like a trial planet so he can see if he wants to be with you or not, and to give you a chance to decide if you want to be with him.

[@wayneandrews1022]

No difficulty for me or any other atheist. No god, no rights, no problem. Now, theists who take others’ lives in the name of their fictional deity…

[@y11971alex]

But God does have limits on his powers. Psalm 82 makes this clear: bad gods can get deposed 😅

[@abhbible]

@@y11971alex I’m not talking about ancient Israelite theology.

[@byrondickens]

Junior psychopath there....

[@jericosha2842]

I like what David Bentley Hart says: "If God is above the law or right and wrong, then that God is simply evil."

[@user-tt3ni4gb5i]

I like what Bizzle said as the expression of God: "You can never check me, so check this: Your standard for right and wrong is Me, I am the Checklist I am right, 'wrong' is whatever you're left with I am Life, you without Me is what death is." Retrieval of the breath of life, is returning to God. Just because man doesn't like it doesn't mean it's wrong or right, it simply is.

[@c4rb0n40]

the thing with a god, is that the concept of evil or good doesnt exist to a god. a god is an abstract beyond reality. An ablosute god is one that is a being of pure chaos and disorder.

[@shadowalker8068]

God can take yur life learn that christ is king 👑 in god we trust and live after death aka heaven. Yall be the type to blame God for your failures in life 😂

[@abhbible]

@@shadowalker8068 It wouldn’t be okay for a king to arbitrarily take someone’s life either.