Does It Still SUCK? - PlayStation Plus Premium 2024 Review

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Tackle deadly creatures, wield the legendary Buster Sword, carve out a kingdom to call your own and much more with July’s Game Catalog lineup! Remnant II, Crisis Core - Final Fantasy VII - Reunion, Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord and many more games will be available from July 16 for PlayStation Plus Extra and Premium members. We’re also announcing new classic and PS VR2 game offerings coming to PlayStation Plus Premium. In this video DreamcastGuy talks about the current state of Retro games on PS4 and PS5 including games for the PS1, PS2, PS3, and PSP. PlayStation Plus Premium is expensive costly nearly $20 a month so it is worth it to play these old school games now? lets review the service in 2024.

[@DreamcastGuy]

Very sick today so wanted to do a chill video. Thanks for watching and liking

[@JonBon-bi7bh]

PlayStation King Dreamcastguy, this was interesting I guess, but a wasted opportunity to bash the Xbox and prophesize their demise again. You are the reason we are winning the console war! Go Dreamcastguy, yes!!!

[@Mark-mu4pj]

​@@JonBon-bi7bh😂

[@govinddayani]

😅

[@YYuj-up1wy]

​@@JonBon-bi7bhno way your still going on for the console wars😂

[@Brownaut1993]

My biggest gripe is crazily underdeveloped PS Classics library. It shouldn't be that hard to look after the old classics. So much opportunity to sell your old library And it's why I haven't used PS Plus in over a year.

[@rodriguezkev]

Who wants drip fed emulated games behind a top tier paywall when you can get all the games when you want on so many devices now?

[@jamesthomas2410]

Right I turned my cell phone into a Dreamcast lol just gotta get this PS 1 emulator to work and I'm good

[@rodriguezkev]

@@jamesthomas2410My Steam Deck is my current go-to for emulation. The perfect form factor for retro gaming.

[@bassettgames8076]

It does suck

[@InnerRise]

Nah

[@WideHorizons90]

Yes. Where are the PS2 games? This small trickle of older games has put me off renewing for premium

[@playstationgen2133]

Stupid comment just like Dreamcast guy there is ps2 games on store sly cooper and more .

[@user-yv7dt5je1l]

​@@playstationgen2133A very select few, but go off Corpo ball licker

[@ADukesJustice]

​@@playstationgen2133lol you're the only one here defending this. Yes there's ps2 games but there should be more, especially with how great the ps2 lineup was. Expect better, stop settling for less.

[@jamesthomas2410]

​@@ADukesJusticewhat do you expect from a guy with PlayStation in his name lol

[@notslucis9977]

​@@ADukesJusticelol they just beginning putting ps2 game your clown, they need to have license and test game before they put the game on the store! 😅. And they putting trophy on those old games too, I guess old Nintendo should put all their game on their subscriptions too! Lol

[@KamiKoroshi_]

Yes It still sucks. Which is why I haven't subscribe to it yet. It's trash. And i love Playstation. But it's trash.

[@Earendil87]

Agreed 100%

[@BakesBread001]

Wow. He couldn’t find one thing negative to say. The streaming on games like that old Ratchet is not good. Premium tier is a waste.

[@joshuaschmidinger3993]

I have essential and I just buy the games I like and don't need a handout. Sub services don't usually interest me 🤷‍♂️

[@BakesBread001]

@@joshuaschmidinger3993 sub services piqued my interest in 2020. But it has turned out to be a dud. I have PS essential for the cloud saves and I might end that.

[@KamiKoroshi_]

@joshuaschmidinger3993 Yeah, I just buy my stuff also. If I do subscribe, it'll be to the lowest tier.

[@katieblackmore2004]

So this guy moans about Game Pass and it's current price hike, also moaning that Xbox are killing physical games with the number of games available on Game Pass, yet it is cheaper than Playstation's PS Plus/Premium, but DreamcastGuy in all his glory, makes out that Xbox are somehow ripping you off with Game Pass. But then makes this video, showing that the games available on PS Plus/Premium are poor, that it is expensive, but he somehow spins it in a good light? Yet he argues CONSTANTLY he isn't a fan boy and is a fair reviewer? Haha, yeah..... Sure.

[@VonDutchNL]

He's the worst PS fanboy there is.

[@KirkRedgate]

I dropped from premium to essential about 8 months. I don’t miss it myself.

[@amano_s]

I dropped the entire PlayStation brand. I don't regret it myself.

[@BK_vrgaming]

Bro I acc hate PlayStation for this since I had ps plus extra for a year and then I went to essential and now it won’t let me play all the games that I’ve downloaded and played from extra like it’s acc not fair

[@soulpunisher743]

@@BK_vrgamingyeah it wouldn’t be so bad if they would let you keep the games as long as you have a subscription I feel like it sucks that you can’t play them either when they leave

[@Yewchewb]

@@BK_vrgamingwell it is fair, don’t you think everyone would just buy extra for a month, and then revert back to essential once they hve downloaded all the games? Use your brain

[@Mr.Ditkovich.]

Why would anyone subscribe to this when you can just play them on PCSX2 and other emulators?

[@notslucis9977]

Lol why you buy Nintendo switch games if you can emulated on PC too with much better performance! Lol

[@XTNDEADPLAY]

Give me rent.

[@jacobross735]

Because a lot of people don’t play on PC especially nowadays. I’ve been tempted but I’m also not interested on dropping 2 grand on a PC that I will need to spend even more hundreds of dollars to upgrade every few years to keep up with current tech

[@Mr.Ditkovich.]

@jacobross735 I can play PCSX2 games fine on my slightly above 1 grand laptop.

[@Roxas-dr8om]

Its sadly still ass. Emulation is a god send when companies are this daft enough to no go all in on classics. AND THEN REMOVE CERTAIN GAMES THAT ARE ACTUALLY GREAT LIKE WHY?!

[@galkim7265]

Yes it suckes

[@galkim7265]

Every form of subscription suckes I mean in the basic one we literally pay to have the capability to play online😐😐 We are slaves

[@user-oq6sc1qm4j]

Totally sucks, overpriced filled with a bunch of old games that are dirt cheap on sale if you want it.

[@lilboybluenotes7042]

Premium sucked a year ago. It isn’t much better now. For what it costs, Sony hasn’t delivered. Can’t recommend premium tier.

[@aaronvasseur6559]

It depends on your taste in games me personally I have got my moneys worth to keep the subscription going monthly

[@MartyMacFry]

It's way too much they have lost their minds like almost half the cost of the console

[@Leroy719]

Yeah! It sucks!

[@BakesBread001]

Wow. He couldn’t find one thing negative to say. The streaming on games like that old Ratchet is not good. Gamepass … he doesn’t hold back.

[@RTX4050Games]

Gaystation

[@roelmalollari4603]

​@@RTX4050Games gaypc(Rtx

[@SamsonTheHamster]

Max with an Xbox emulation=terrible, PlayStation“I love the charming retro jank” 10/10

[@oldmanretro949]

I have both PS+ and Game Pass 💪

[@galkim7265]

@@oldmanretro949 not something to brag about tf😑

[@GoHardOrGoHome85]

It sucks no need for a video about it 🤦

[@georgeguapo9613]

If you bought urself a Series S for $300 & got the Ultimate Gamepass subscription for $20 a month, oh boy… that service steps all over ps subscription based model. How you might ask ? OG Xbox Games Xbox 360 Games Xbox One Day One Series X/S Games 3rd Party Games Cloud Gaming Bro ! Best deal in gaming. & everybody is crying for a $3 dollar increase ? Lmao

[@Sladey1601]

Put it in Dev mode and you can play every system up to the Wii, in upscaled 4k/60fps too.

[@Rodeorigo]

After I felt both guilty and robbed seeing the money coming out of my bank for the premium when I thought I downgraded a couple of days ago, I got my answer to this: yes, it sucks.

[@paulaurich3978]

You know what’s funny Starfield 83 he said its bad Stellar blade 81 he says its good Hellblade 2 82 he said its bad When he put a review of rise of the ronin 76 he will say it is good

[@crux891]

aah of course but wait what do users say? Owh right starfield 6.7,stellar blade 9.2, hellblade 2 7.4.... So not funny it seems as the general public seems to think exactly the same... Maybe ask xbox to make better games?

[@rodeyrevenge]

@@crux891don’t know nobody care what users say. User say cod trash every year and it’s a top selling game every year a bunch morons 😂

[@lordxboss5700]

$20 a month for streaming old games is worth it if it's Playstation but $20 for Gamepass Ultimate is bad with Day 1s every month, PC, Cloud, EAplay 🤪 also more of those Playstation games can be emulated on an Xbox in higher quality along with Nintendo, Sega etc etc etc 🤯 Giddy up Pony

[@paulaurich3978]

You know what’s funny, the steam peck of concord has less players then the peck of Hellblade 2 on steam. Also hope you recover

[@Lucky_9705]

Just give us PS1 and PS2 backwards compatibility, Sony

[@based-ys9um]

They have. Unless you mean discs which isn't going to happen

[@jwheels8895]

also ps3 backward compatibility would be great

[@paulaurich3978]

You said that the emulation is good but its no competition to Xbox backwards compatibility.

[@Wingedlight-nn4hl]

Agreed cuz the Xbox backwards compatibility it amazing and has even improved on some games like the Silent Hill HD collection and Sonic Unleashed as both games are smoother to play with Sonic Unleashed now being able to maintain 60 FPS with no dips.

[@michaelhelgeson7664]

Yeah, it sucks

[@roelmalollari4603]

Why

[@chrisvazquez3399]

Because I’m play plants vs zombies 2 on my ps4 and went to go play online I had to pay 80 Dollars a month and that was the least expensive option

[@chrisvazquez3399]

Never mind is was 80 dallied ever year the cheapest one is 10 dollars a month my lísiate but it still sucks especially when I comes to older and for often game like this it’s very annoying that you can buy the game but can only get single player aspects of it gets really Lonly that you can’t play online with other people and playing single player in this does get boring after a while it just feels like a scam a game that was meant to be online multiplayer but if you don’t pay u will be stuck play singlet stuff and didn’t know until now

[@alexhearty5141]

@@chrisvazquez3399same with every other console lmao

[@Joseph928100]

I dunno old Sony ip games just don't tickle the warm fuzziess for me. I never played Sony consoles for Sony games but more square capcom or Konami games

[@Fanboynightmare]

Bro you're sick in like every other video 😂

[@WaynesWorldUnlimited]

The only Dreamcast channel that doesn’t talk about Dreamcast

[@DreamcastGuy]

I made Dreamcast videos back in the day but hard to talk about a system that was only on the market for 18 months for too long haha.

[@Pswayze23]

Maybe because the console died before most modern gamers played their first game

[@KillerZxAce]

@@DreamcastGuywell, maybe change your name to Playstationguy? It suits you better

[@lemming9984]

@@KillerZxAce I'm happy with DCG - it has more punch!

[@digipimp75]

The answer is Yes. Yes it sucks. There, I just saved you 10 minutes.

[@Mindwalker030]

I can't believe we still don't have the original Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil 3 Nemesis in the store.

[@rrice3142]

Yes. It sucks

[@curtisjohnson1234]

Sooooo 20 dollars a month for gamepass is Xbox is dead 20 dollars a month for shitty emulation drip fed to you is better than sliced bread

[@crux891]

at least get your comment right if you wanna make a point.... first off all the extra tier is just 13 dollar not 14.99 like xbox and premium is just 16 dollar not 20 dollar like microsoft. But and here is the kicker there both in a very very very very different situation... playstation is outselling the xbox 1 to 5 nor is playstation plus premium a selling point for playstation. It's not there main thing... Xbox made gamepass more important then there consoles... Very very very important difference.. So on hand you have sony where playstation plus premium is add on that you can take if you so want to... But is doing perfectly fine without having to rely on it... On the other hand you have xbox that is not doing fine at all so it changed it's tactics to gamepass what also have seen a decrease in its users and is not hitting the targets that microsoft has set... If you then are gonna raise the price then your basicly in deep trouble... Because they have to increase price to keep up with the cost. But at the same time it's also losing subscribers and the consoles are also not doing great... You see how it works??? 2 very very very different things....

[@MsSaskue360]

It’s not 20 dollar a month, it 18 a month if your stupid enough to pay monthly instead of year option the price difference if you choose year option is 160 for premium compare to 240 for game pass ultimate so it actually 13.33 a month

[@mickybottoms4170]

Ya he is clearly a hardcore sony pony no matter how much he denies it. I was expecting this too which is sad. GP has waaay more to offer for the same dollar and I preger PS but GP is on my pc and xbox. Even if PSP is cheaper on the yearly price its still not worth it compared to GP for some of us

[@FullSweatTryhard]

Both suck gtfoh

[@mickybottoms4170]

@@MsSaskue360 Then tell DCG because he said in his video 20 so of course people who watch it are going to believe that is it.

[@spawncalibur1022]

I had to cancel, too few releases and PC emulation is obviously much better. Jeanne d'Arc I was playing at 4K with HD texture pack and RetroAchievements, it looks way better than the PS5 version. Paying a premium for lazy infrequent Sony releases was disappointing, I regret subscribing to it for 2 years.

[@oasisbeyond]

Its called emulation... you can play these games everywhere on pc even your phone will have higher resolution.

[@codylopez2158]

Pretty rare that your sick, you're a healthy guy huh?? I can remember at least 3 times this year alone you've been sick.. I haven't been sick once.. it's literally the middle of summer.. How TF do you get sick in summer, with no kids??

[@VonDutchNL]

Just look at the guy, tells you everything about his lifestyle.

[@eSKAone-]

but he calls GamePass expensive

[@Wingedlight-nn4hl]

Hypocrisy at its finest

[@Wingedlight-nn4hl]

Xbox backwards compatibility is still better cuz it has even improved on some games like the Silent Hill HD collection and Sonic Unleashed as both games are smoother to play with Sonic Unleashed now being able to maintain 60 FPS with no dips like how it was on the PS3 and 360 especially in the Werehog levels and some have even been upscaled as well.

[@OurLou]

Nah it sucks and has done for a while I’ll be downgrading to essential soon. No idea what I’m paying for anymore 🤷‍♂️

[@chrisvw352]

I love playing games during crazy snow storms. Reminds me of a snow day.

[@rodeyrevenge]

They greedy PlayStation Plus suck yall can’t even get concord day one 😂

[@lemming9984]

Who, in their right mind would want Concord day one? OR ANY DAY!

[@billygilmusic5072]

$160 USD per year for Playstation Plus Premium is highway robbery at this point

[@Ra_773]

Yes it sucks

[@mike1989libra]

Idk how

[@beloved-child]

The classic game library is Lacking, but the extras game i can't imagine anyone getting bored of for years to come

[@ramiyohay7286]

It is better but still not worth the extra money. The EXTRA tier is still preferable. Sony needs to step it up with the retro

[@Wickedman25]

What's up gamers playstationguy here

[@TheGarrisonMMA]

I’m unsubscribing if he calls me a gayburr one more time

[@Electro096]

I'll stick to playing PSP games on my playsation vita Oled thanks, PS2, PS1 on a Actual PS2.

[@lemming9984]

Yes, nothing better than playing on original device. I have three 'straight' Vitas with a good library of physical games, and a hacked one where I can play PS1 and so much more.

[@EvilPichu]

Get well soon Dreamcastguy❤ lots of greetings from Germany!

[@Earendil87]

Have yet to get anything good out of it.

[@kickpuncher1892]

Yes it sucks very much. Another sony L

[@mike1989libra]

Ya your on crack it game out better then the game pass and that’s depressing

[@khurramjaved7301]

PlayStation still the best console in the industry.

[@kickpuncher1892]

@@khurramjaved7301 keep dreaming kid

[@khurramjaved7301]

@@kickpuncher1892 What's the best console then?

[@XBC3-4GOTY]

@@khurramjaved7301Nintendo is the Goat 🐐 tho

[@Ajayen--]

Wild that it's been 2 years and we barely have premium titles worth more playing.

[@oskarirautio3860]

After all, Ps Now was cheaper compared to Premium. This plus service should be developed in such a way that if wish, can only take Premium or Extra without Essential

[@premiersentinels4312]

It does suck. So called "PS Classics". Not even having Armored Core and Digimon World

[@keness4768]

I'd just like to be able to purchase the odd ps2 game or two. Licensing for these old titles sux ass..

[@TheDTSB]

Still not having trophy support on Resident Evil is criminal

[@Fonzflicks]

Hoping we get Manhunt 2. Rockstar always ignores that game. If Premium can release PSP games, there' s no excuse not to release that game since it was ported to PSP also.

[@tapz02]

7:15, looool thats just a feature of the ps2 version, they didnt update it

[@paulnewhouse5126]

We need a rerelease of parasite eve.

[@topher8770]

I was excited when they added the original Resident Evil 1 hoping it would lead to more ps1 capcom games like OG Re2, OG RE3 and Dino Crisis being added but sadly that hasn't happened yet.

[@joshuaschmidinger3993]

Jenne d'arc is a freakin classic, i was also excited when i seen they added it(though i don't sub to extra or premium)i will probably just buy it 😎👌 also wanted to play sly again but i have alot of my ps1 games still to play. We need xenogears too(i sold my copy when i needed to pay rent a while back and i still regret, as well as silent hill 🙏) hope you feel better max, i have had the flu for the last week but now am on the mend 😊👍

[@IgorBozoki1989]

Compare to Game pass it sucks a lot.

[@Neonblakc]

Which tier of gamepass?

[@rukuzjedie]

Only ultimate 😂😂

[@llks1772]

Give the edge to gamepass and that’s only because of abk other than that they are equal

[@jaybirdblood591]

​@@llks1772 equal? That's all we need to see 😅

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

How? They basically have similar choices. Playstation Premium is just Gamepass without day 1 releases but seeing as even XBOX isn't giving you day 1 releases anymore (on standard tier) and they don't have any games that are worth a Damm currently. Its basically the same.

[@PhaseRebirth]

Keep whipping out those controllers you magnificent beast 💪

[@stephenrocks6390]

The steaming for PS3 games is rubbish plus the selection of PS1 and PS2 games is atrocious

[@OwtDaftUK]

If they make a PS3 emulator then premium will be much more worth while.

[@Albassam90]

No, a lot of games are on (stream) only. I have a good internet (up to 800 mbps) but because the upload is around 10 mbps I keep getting a message that says there was a problem in my connection. Since download is limited to some retro games its not worth it + the backlog of games arent that good

[@princecharming8125]

They got a game on PSN for Premium for PS4 Hogwarts Legacy. I don't want Premium. Should I still buy the Hogwarts Legacy despite I don't have premium?

[@kocfkevin91]

Im buying some of the classic games a-la-carte. I refuse to pay for PS+ Premium

[@mr.ha00rj]

why Playstation Plus games the difference size as the original game when purchased from the store?

[@DLastResort]

Correction - PS+ Premium is not $20 a month. It is $18 if you pay monthly or $13.34 if you pay annually.

[@shalalameowmeow3601]

I love PlayStation premium I subscribe for a few months try a few games when I am done with my subscription I buy the games I liked the best or add them to my wishlist and wait for a sale.

[@kickeazygaming6851]

After that price increase by psn, I downgraded to extra. Premium is not worth 💩 for all that 💰 coming out of your pocket. Thinking about downgrading again 😂

[@Howrider65]

You must be a Sony employee.

[@FiniteRich]

wow if this blows his mind imagine if he actually looked what's on game pass rather than just shitting on it 😂

[@josephbuchanan2319]

I think it’s pretty good, I love playing Legend of Dragoon, Sly 1, and Daxter again. However, it’s not enough to getting it for the average gamer. We need a lot more classic games and hopefully someday PS3 games.

[@AnthonySmith-bj9mo]

hi DreamcastGuy

[@AdApT3Rx]

we need persona 2 on ps plus fr fr

[@Pranksta1985]

Definitely doesn't and never sucked but I like gaming as a whole so I guess I'm different.

[@mylife9039]

waste of time

[@SpaceRidee]

It sucks sooooooo hard!! Hope you get better soon.

[@IPlayVideoGamesAndNothingElse]

I didn’t buy a ps5 to just play games I’ve already played or ones I was never interested in to begin with when they released. All games that are low budget and before the ps4 should be in a separate category entirely. I shouldn’t have to search through garbage like cats quest and Mr. Hibbi just for me to find a game that should be on the $500 console I purchased. If your game looks and plays like its should be on a ps3 and earlier you shouldn’t be in a list along side games made specifically for the ps5 that aren’t low budget copy paste trash. Meaning if you make an arcade game on the ps5 sorry going into the category with all the PS 1, 2 , 3, Atari, and etc. there is absolutely no reason why those 1000’s of titles should make up 99% of a store for a console sold every 8 years. We going to get to PlayStation 8 and you won’t even be able to find a ps8 game due to how many old games as well as cash grabs that make up the store. If you made a game like fall out shelter or bastion that should stay where it belongs on your phone like all the other mobile garbage.

[@LionWolfHarper]

Answer is yes. Seriously it's pointless. Extra and essential are fine. If Sony ads day 1 games to Premium yeah no it would kill them. 😂 What Sony should do is actually put their live service games on Premium, plus Crunchyroll premium, Beta/tournament access, Competitions challenges/Rewards And promotions for Apple+/D+/ any app which wants get more viewers by having little discount for their services. Also GTA+ or EA Play membership discounts. Also they need have a Vita Emulator now on Premium, and also PS3 Emulator which can let u download games but we all know problem by now which absolutely sucks but hay PC community is trying their best on PS3 emulator. So at Moment Premium isn't worth it because most classic game are available buy Sept og Resident Evil which sucks to see being locked to premium.

[@solonepeon5805]

I would love to see Vagrant Story remaster on all system.

[@ODDEYE_XIII]

My thoughts exactly.

[@solonepeon5805]

@@ODDEYE_XIII 👍

[@lemming9984]

I got SO frustrated with that randomly generated forest!

[@hackysmacky]

Definitely not even remotely worth it brother

[@billyholmes5551]

Why cant playstation have silent hill metal gear the games everyone wants

[@eager7279]

I want the original resident evil 2 on there , metal gear solid and also xenogears to name a few

[@Gamer-lw9hs]

Yes it sucks pony. It's terrible

[@BK_vrgaming]

Bro I acc hate PlayStation for this since I had ps plus extra for a year and then I went to essential and now it won’t let me play all the games that I’ve downloaded and played from extra like it’s acc not fair

[@nickdecourcey6535]

I really hope they release Untold Legends Brotherhood of the Blade.

[@mattswan0123]

I see the controller 👀

[@deoccultist]

I find myself scrolling through the PS Extra catalog trying to find something I want to play, and finding nothing. The ones I liked I already played, and there weren't many of them: Ghost of Tsushima, Returnal, Ratchet & Clank, and a few others. Everything else is just weird 16-bit indie games, huge flops like Gotham Knights or Thief, boring ass narrative games like Man of Medan, and Ubisoft crap. I know gaming, like any media, is a matter of personal taste, but come on. Plus, most of the monthly games are crap, too. I don't care about some stupid simulator game or Lego game. Once in a while we get some gems, but they are few and far between. So, the most I'll subscribe to now is Essential just for the cloud storage. I tried Premium once for the cloud streaming, but even with my 250gbps internet, it still sucks. One of these days I'm just going to switch to PC gaming. Seems to be the better route overall.

[@DJ_Shenanigan00]

So 20 a month is too much for xbox but not for playstation? Even though gamepass is the better deal

[@adthomp]

My pa3 console That’s hacked can play any 3 generations of games for no monthly cost yeah it’s actually “free” games

[@jwheels8895]

playstation premium is not worth the price it dosent have enough content this tier switching is exactly why i dont buy games digitally because i dont want to worry about subscription and content leaving the service the only reason i have extra tier is because some of the dlc for the games that i play were bumped up to extra

[@matthewlong1978]

This is where I actually prefer NSO of only Sony could follow suit

[@Enlightened91]

I run PSP, Vita, and ps2 Games on my s24 ultra. No need for premium

[@user-yv7dt5je1l]

Where tf is the PS2 copy of Silent Hill 2? This would be a massive way not to just market the remake, but market PS+ to more people 🤷🏻‍♀️ Such a missed opportunity

[@based-ys9um]

I think konami doesn't have the code for the team silent games . I hope it's not true though

[@Flyeaglesfly215]

So ps premium with no day ones, no cod, no big games at all is worth 18$ but gamepass with ge force , ea play, day ones ,cod, retro games isnt worht the extra 4 quarters? 😂😂😂😅

[@mehanjinadasa8364]

I subscibe for ps premuim only cause of 2 games. Ratchet and clank up your arsenal and jack and daxter 3

[@lesliehaigh6765]

Not worth it I pay for extra I think that's still best value plus Xbox 20 a month is still worth it

[@politicallyincorrect4452]

Is this a serious question? Of course it sucks..... its a nickel and diming scam. All console gaming is a scam these days that's why I went full PC.