Does Mikel Arteta NEED A Trophy?

[@therussle]

I HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH THIS PODCAST... IT'S THAT I HAVEN'T REVIEWED IT SOONER. BECAUSE IF I HAD THEN YOU WOULD KNOW HOW GOOD THESE TWO ARE AT MAKING A PODCAST THAT'S BAD! … AND WHEN I SAY, "BAD”, I MEAN, MICHAEL JACKSON BAD… YOU KNOW HOW HE LOOKED REALLY, REALLY BAD AT THE END OF HIS LIFE? LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY. THESE TWO NEED TO PACK THEIR BAGS AND GET OUT OF THE PODCAST BIZ… BECAUSE THEY SHOULD BE WORKING ON THE FINEST TALK SHOW IN THE WORLD … JUST NOT ANY WORLD THAT I LIVE IN! BECAUSE, FRANKLY JAMES AND FLAV, I'M JEALOUS OF YOU… AND YOUR ABILITY TO NOT CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT! THIS IS NOT FIT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION… NO, THIS SHOULD BE CONSUMED BY A HIGHER LIFE-FORM WITH A MUCH LOWER COGNITIVE DISSONANCE! JOKING. NOT! YOU DESERVE TO DIE! SO YOU WON'T HAVE TO ENDURE A LIFE IN WHICH YOU WILL NEVER EXCEED WHAT YOU HAVE ACHIEVED WITH THIS PODCAST. ALL IN ALL, GREAT LISTENING, WOULD RECOMMEND

[@Jimbobiscuit]

Took the words right out of my mouth

[@jake6379]

Thanks for being concise

[@fantasypgatour]

What a rollercoaster of truth

[@_mcslash]

Agreed, shit podcast. 5 stars. 10/10.

[@pushlost]

This is just a Key and Peele skit

[@celtic69]

was off my face in a gay bar in London talking to a guy that I thought was Flav for a solid 15 mins. It wasn’t until after I left that I realised it wasn’t Flav and just some random bloke going along with what I was saying cos he wanted to pump us. unless it was you Flav then… same time again next week?

[@jackkennys]

call

[@celtic69]

@@jackkennys call yer ma, she misses you

[@jackkennys]

​@@celtic69call yer da, he doesn't miss you

[@celtic69]

@@jackkennys because im gay? you’d be spot on mate 😭

[@jackkennys]

​@@celtic69I'm lost. Merry Christmas buddy

[@krishankaushal8422]

This podcast needs to be recorded on Fridays. Spurs r a Thursday night team and I need to see the flav reactions after them on here.

[@jamiedaly6793]

There is nothing better than Flav talking with total confidence about Nottingham Forest striker Dan Burn

[@danr6493]

It's a power move. Big him up for months, then as soon as he starts getting credit, genuinely forget who the fuck he his.

[@morganrichards8730]

The ironic thing about the beating Swansea bit is that Swansea have won more major trophies than spurs in the last 15 years

[@bannnnner]

I mean effectively the same in 16yrs. But if those brackets work better for your argument 😂

[@morganrichards8730]

@@bannnnner😂😂

[@alexwebb8717]

and birmingham!

[@robertwhittick6427]

Come for the football talk, stay for the tantalising will-they won't-they relationship

[@_mcslash]

Oh, they will...

[@yevlekcm_log]

You should see them by the dumpsters at fleet services

[@MainooFan]

Proper Christmas Special, when the two uncles have started an argument at Dinner over the Carabao Cup & Queens Park Ranger’s nickname, vintage JAFFN.

[@Leon-ii3db]

Flav’s had a stinker mixing up Chris Wood and Dan Burn, not the type of guest you should have on again James

[@Davequirky]

The trophy talk is actually insane. How can you have that mindset? “You don’t get credit for the winning the trophy” the credit is the actual trophy. nobody remembers the team that beat some big names along the way and bow out in the semis.

[@jekanyika]

Exactly. As a Liverpool fan I remember beating Birmingham in the final of the league cup, that didn't make it count for less in my mind.

[@mellowfellow4956]

Its the league cup.

[@SirMonkeySuit]

I'll tell you why Spurs fans have that mindset, because they will personally tell you that they hate Arsenal more than they love Tottenham, so their focus is always on what other clubs think rather than focusing on themselves.

[@gomeze8230]

People do mock the last liverpool ucl win because the final was just against spurs

[@twenty-two8651]

This podcast is great. I put it on for my Saturday afternoon nap. Each time I watch around the 5 minute mark I start drifting off and, without fail, my brain senses the show coming to an end and I wake up for one last ghastly take from Flav. Thanks lads.

[@Bobby_sprinkles]

Is there anything more Flav than him verbally attacking potential twins because they both got good Super Six scores? I absolutely love it.

[@xisckillerx7578]

Flav got such a massive bite from Jim right at the end. Jims face and halted rebuttal once Flav said "it's fine if you win it like that" had me rolling

[@CallumWith2Ls]

Just checking in, the pod has been instrumental for me over the years getting me through darker times with a good laugh. Love you both and the community here. Wanted to happily share my Mrs and I have just had a successful and healthy 12 week scan for a little slug in the oven! Love you all❤

[@JamesLawrenceAllcott]

Cheers Callum. I’m crying…. ❤❤❤

[@JamesLawrenceAllcott]

x.com/jamesallcott/status/1870173709736276335?s=46&t=H3N7QlA5Jn-6qc138Cbvkw so thrilled for you mate. Appreciate you and your kind words xxxx

[@CallumWith2Ls]

@@JamesLawrenceAllcott what a man, thank you mate❤️

[@_mcslash]

Huge congrats mate. Love to hear good news within the slug community. My wife just gave birth to our baby boy 2 weeks ago. Hope the pregnancy is smooth for your Mrs, first luck mate. ♥️♥️

[@CallumWith2Ls]

@@_mcslash thanks mate❤️

[@JCU26]

Best funeral songs - We played ‘Bridge of Light’ from the Happy Feet film about dancing and singing penguins for my nan earlier this year because it was her favourite film. She was deaf. Genuinely. A deaf woman loved a musical more than any other film. Incredible.

[@barnaclefelching4079]

Lovely bit of business that

[@stephendevlin6455]

If Flavs after congratulations from opposing fans he’ll have a long wait. I remember the pivot from “haven’t won a prem” to “one prem in 30 years” being very quick. Almost instantaneous. It is what it is. Flav should know this.

[@tomfeatherstone1815]

Sat through every single ad in the hope of increasing Jim’s new year budget - maybe time to spend on a new guest?

[@ThaBeast22A]

I know Flav likes to rattle people and winding people up. But this time I could not tell if he was kidding to get James to melt, or if its was legit. Priceless xD and also insane

[@mazzae6084]

I honestly couldn’t tell. He got me icl😂 worse bit is he never says whether he’s being up wind up. Class from him tbf

[@dexter6447]

Flav having a computer error over carabao cup just to have a needle over Arsenal winning the fa cup over Hull is a hilarious all time podcast moment

[@dexter6447]

He will never allow himself to be a hypocrite aha

[@alexmcbride--24]

Delighted to provide an update on Peter Beardsley, my wife cared for a member of his family and to his credit frequently visited them so the staff got to know him a little. As they got better and left the ward Peter said that he had something for the staff - ex footballer they were looking forward to something luxurious after weeks of care, the next day during the discharge Peter came in with around 20 identical pre signed photos of himself from his playing days to give to all the staff bearing the message 'all the best'. Still got it up in the garage, what a player.

[@stevelandwonder4760]

Re the image at the top of the show. It's not a cracked logo - it's the City logo as a church stained glass window. The reference is religious and presenting Pep as maybe a tortured saint.

[@joshshepherd2760]

I'm laid on a sunbed on the top deck of a cruise ship in the canaries sipping on a frozen margarita and I can't explain how much this pod is exactly what I want to listen to. Cheers lads

[@Sammmgill]

Just to confirm, a beanie is on Mr Flavells head this week. You’re just not looking hard enough

[@mattknight123]

Ooo look at us we’re 2 brothers that are really good at Super 6. Grow up. (I literally got 0 points last week)

[@AshH988]

I got 2. Hold that 💀

[@ethanedwards1037]

This part made me laugh😂 trust me we’re not related

[@nikjohnstone5511]

@@ethanedwards1037That’s what you would say!! Clearly doing some sort of sibling related cheatery

[@dandasolo]

I can't even play bc I'm not in the UK 😭

[@barnaclefelching4079]

​@@ethanedwards1037yet

[@tompurvis3628]

When I hear those Horns in the intro I know it’ll be a Good Friday

[@hamoudziane]

If arse don't win a cup this year , it'll be the media and non arsenal fans leading the calls for arteta to get sacked. The fans won't be happy but they'll back him till next year at least. The board ain't getting rid of him for a while, he seems fully backed.

[@j.s3300]

But robbie

[@AgileBeas]

Some of your fans were calling for his head after a draw to Everton, have a day off

[@kin9_derp952]

Yeah but that's not true some arsenal fans are calling and tbh after this season possibly trophy less it's correct. If man city don't win it and Liverpool do arsenal should be ashamed of themselves and if Chelsea win it oh man he should retire

[@jordansharp4743]

I love the slow transition to Flav’s room looking like there’s a fire burning in there.

[@jake6379]

Flav is the kind of man who insists that guests at his house squeegee the shower in exactly the same way he does so that there is no build up lime scale. And i am here for that energy. Im hoping that when i grow as old as him, i will be able to deliver the same demands without alienating family and friends.

[@MitchellTalks]

Speaking of funeral songs. My dad passed away 14 years ago now and he had a cd of the song he wanted as his funeral song (he had cancer and knew he hadn’t long left). Being that he was being cremated I knew he may have something up his sleeve. Fast forward to the funeral. Beautiful ceremony. Then came the moment when the curtains closed and the coffin being taken to the incinerator. His song began. The trumpets started and before long all we could hear was Johnny Cash’s voice being bellowed around the church. That is of course. Ring of fire. Still makes me chuckle now. Cheers guys ❤

[@barnaclefelching4079]

Beardsley, stood in his neighbour's back garden, staring at a pair of starlings, thumbing his ham roll to combat the nerves, calm and steady Peter, calm and steady

[@lubo2583]

If you listen to athletico mince then you know it's a lovely lovely crunchy lumpy chicken wrap

[@barnaclefelching4079]

@lubo2583 you're a good lad Peter

[@lubo2583]

@@barnaclefelching4079 uhhhhhhhhh cheers bob. There's only one Peter Beardsley.....one Peter Beardsley....

[@steventaylor7953]

So I'm at 29:09 and I have a genuine concern that I'm going to have to pick if I live with Mom or dad...

[@_mcslash]

The end of this episode is vintage JAFFN. James and Flav breaking down a 10 second video of a child crying in the greatest detail for 10 minutes. 😂

[@Podsey]

The top teams win all the trophies and leagues in every country not just England.

[@ruairiomahony3774]

JAFFN brings families back together, JAFFN cleanses the soul, JAFFN is up there with spaghetti bolognese !!!!

[@jake6379]

Spag bol or tag bol. Always tag bol.

[@mattsykes9159]

This was simply podcasting perfection. x6 laugh out loud from me, sat on my own, working.

[@brynunited1616]

16:12 Me when my partner finally says yes when I ask for a blowy

[@theawaken7]

Current profit sustainability rules are anti competition though Flav, they literally make it harder for smaller clubs to compete financially or break into the top 6. It's not about "let us spend all our oil money", we just want fair rules that aren't clearly protecting the "big 6". Clubs should be able to spend a little money without having to sell their most valuable players to avoid a points deduction, makes it increasingly difficult to actually build a good side.

[@jonathangledhill3023]

The best thing about the video at the end with the 5 year old Man City supporting kid crying, when looking at the age of the Man Utd supporting father, is they are both glory hunters! The sweet sweet irony.

[@willlloyd9480]

Completely agree on the trophy conversation Jimmy Take every trophy you can

[@mattwilks1371]

Always look forward to this podcast every week. Genuine enjoyment every time. Cheers lads have a good Christmas.

[@asminde]

"you're an absolute weapon" is an underrated insult 🤣

[@justagame101]

6:08 I think it's a bit naive to believe that there aren't hidden costs Man City pay externally to get these players. Nothing is for free, and nobody wants to sign for the prestige at Man City. And it happened before the allure of Pep.

[@stephencarruthers4646]

Im sat on the edge of a fjord in Norway, and this pod is exactly what i wanted to take in the view in the correct manner. Cheers lads!

[@CallumWith2Ls]

Flav backing himself into a corner and James bringing up Arteta winning the 1 cup was brilliant 😂

[@DavidJones-lt2ir]

31:44 is exactly why spurs are spurs, as a Liverpool fan trophy is a trophy winning begets winning. Flav is the epitome of a spurs fan.

[@SGR166]

Jim is 100% SPOT ON. This is why a super league is coming

[@Spinsaweb]

Pep just needs to spend Xmas day with Ange and it will all turn around

[@MadMike_222]

Love how James was fighting the temptation to go back in on Flav at the end there and tried cutting the pod short 😂

[@andrewshaw414]

Lads, TV is shit… I can’t do it. Your football chat is class and gives me a good giggle with a beer on a Friday night! Much love Shawboy x

[@brettdavidson9837]

Love these 2 so much. Onto 2025. Slug army

[@edburt9067]

I love JAFFN! Remember to like the episode guys! Up the Sluggers!!!!!!

[@xssaka1364]

Can't believe Flav missed the opportunity to tell the lads that he caught one

[@jackbyrne6472]

Less football chat- More gambling promotion please!

[@TheFootball7417]

Chris Wood is the Dan Burn of Earling Haalands.

[@jpmusson]

James’s Geordie accent went Jamaican

[@jacklane3679]

To be fair to Flav, Chris Wood and Dan Burn are in the same category in their respective positions.

[@awurft3755]

Just signed up for the slug league. Predicting a Liverpool win against my spurs for a million pounds feels like I’ve just sold my soul, thanks for making me feel cheap guys

[@jamesashman4848]

Nottingham Forest and Dan burn being 3rd Xmas day, how poetic

[@EddieBaumgartner]

This podcast needs an audio version I can listen to as I’m driving. I’m not paying for KZbin premium, this is what’s keeping the podcast from being perfect.

[@kp-rv3ui]

The podcast is on audio streaming services

[@fantasypgatour]

Flav nailed that "one million pounds" voiceover

[@adaldi_]

0:47 Maqwell mentioned in an James Allcott video! Never thought I'd see the day 😂

[@shyamlakhani101]

Nice to see Flav go full Super Hans at the end there - total darkness etc. does this make James our Jez?

[@carlmcgrath484]

18:27 true geordie will be happy

[@MatArmstrong330]

HWTL! 💪

[@sotcutv8795]

I hope both of you and your family's have the best Christmas and a happy new year. This is a brilliant podcast. Even when im feeling down on a Friday, I know for at least an hour that day I'm going to be smiling and laughing, even when you slate the mighty villa 😂 thank you 👍🎄🎅🎁

[@NamedJoe]

On Flav’s point about FFP & Newcastle, i can understand that the rules were put in place to prevent teams ‘buying the league’. I think the frustration comes from the ‘sell to buy’ rules & how teams at the top with higher revenue streams are able to spend more, teams that built up their revenue in a era with no FFP. I think at the very least, Newcastle (and every team in the league) should be able to spend just as much as the highest earner in the league, that’s the fairest resolution I can think of.

[@jacobheap082]

1:00:14 "as much as you care to eat establishment" was one I heard and I've used ever since

[@SkizmiK]

Birmingham City catching as many strays as an Iraqi civilian in the mid naughties

[@jccunna5898]

God James’ jumper would have been perfect for UK primetime TV entertainment hosts Ant or Dec to wear during 2011s “Red or Black”

[@wrighthartlane99]

Brentford v Forrest 2-2 West Ham v Brighton 1-0 Ipswich v Newcastle 0-2 Palace v Arsenal 1-3 Fulham v Southampton 2-0 Tottenham v Liverpool 2-3

[@seansavage5914]

I fear Flav might be chronically online. The idea of spurs beating Birmingham in a final, and Flavs just sat on his couch refreshing his Twitter and thinking “not really worth the wait was it”. Bonkers. Also, have I just heard him refer to Crystal Palace as “premier league cucks”?

[@chelseachelseachelsea4604]

How Spursy can you get. Winning but then wanting to throw it away.

[@mrblueberrysandwich]

Newcastle fan, I agree we shouldn’t allowed to just spend what we want and be a new city or Chelsea, that is wrong. But I’m sorry there should be parity and we should be able to spend as much as any other club, maybe out a cap in place. It is bonkers how horrifically run Chelsea have been the past 3 years however they have been allowed to just keep spending to bail them out and despite how much better run Brentford and Brighton are they’ll always be above them

[@raz.van.amsterdam]

I really love this pod...

[@FerociousMrWolf]

Flav is right Man Utd beat Liverpool and Man City in the Finals and all ppl say is "almost lost to Coventry tho". Or "doesnt matter terrible in the league". BUT BUT you have to be a successful team already. Spurs, Newcastle don't count despite the fact they think they are successful. I.E teams who have won these trophies numerous times.

[@drewbadenochPT]

If Ange is no where near the top 4 and doesn’t win a trophy I think his job would be in threat.. he’s already reached the average life span of a Levy Manager

[@peterspaulding5584]

No one is saying that City have been financially dishonest over the last five years. What they’re saying is they got a head start by overspending.

[@mushroomsarepoo]

A book James I know you would find extremely interesting, how to save football. Its called Football, The peoples shame by Micky P.Kerr revolutionary, meaning it would never happen but should lol

[@SGR166]

But why does it matter what other fans think if you win a trophy? Surely you celebrate the win instead of focusing on what other people say - especially when it's your first trophy in a while

[@horsebox5138]

As a Tottenham fan, what Flav said about the Carabao cup is objectively wrong, stupid and not a single other Tottenham fan thinks that way.

[@zeswutz]

The fact that kid was holding a spoon 😂😂😂

[@Yjbli]

As a Swansea fan I found that so funny given we’ve won a cup more recently than them lol

[@peterkelly1515]

Flav QPR were formed in 1882 Rangers were formed in 2012 Therefore by your logic QPR are The Rangers as they were formed first

[@QazwerDave]

Flav has a point about trophy value. Rival fans try to devalue LFC's "CoVid league title" all the time !!

[@LordSeth-hf8ew]

Flav was on the wind up 100 percent😂

[@seanplace2471]

I’m a Swansea fan. Beating us in the final would be incredibly redundant

[@dodgysmum8340]

Why on earth wld United pay Rashfords wages at another English club? That would never happen. They gave Chelsea the bargain of the century with Sancho, but they did it to get his wages off the books completely. The biggest reason to sell Rashford is to get his wages off the books - subsidised loan just ain’t happening.

[@joshuajones6139]

Id like to openly request more conflict and confrontation between the two of you. The "Spurs winning the Carabao cup" debate was brilliant. And it's enlightening seeing how differently different sets of supporters view achievements through a different lense. James is absolutely right, a trophy is a trophy, you've won it, full stop, enjoy it, bask in the glory. But what James will fail to understand is the stick and criticism laid at the feet of the supporters of the bigger clubs. Modern football culture means you're not allowed to celebrate anything according to rival fans. Certain pieces of silverware are undermined as "Mickey Mouse cups". Liverpool's COVID title, apparently doesn't count. Man City's dominance, tainted by their legal troubles. I've heard people undermine the Leicester title, because "all the other clubs were below par that year". Now some of these criticisms are more valid than others, but ultimately whatever the reasoning might be, rival fans will always look for the "asterisk". So I can appreciate Flav's point. As a Big 6 supporter, you want to leave as little room for doubt of your brilliance as possible. But I guess that's the nature of supporting a club and rallying against others clubs. If we could all take biases out of our opinion and recognise footballing achievements for what they are, then we'd all get along much better, but it's just not the reality.

[@nikjohnstone5511]

As a self professed expert on all things Geordie (I lived there for a few hours in 09) I’ve got to say James’ geordie accent is absolutely bang on. I didn’t understand a word of it

[@beng6530]

Don't worry about our spending Flav, you'll still get battered every time you come to St James

[@SamScholfield-nc7sr]

Rangers went bust - so technically Qpr....

[@benlavin3704]

Think I’d agree with the Ipswich game, but they don’t have delap, so backing us to win 2-1

[@DrSpasticat]

On the rashford point I'm not sure the club can do much about players on long contracts speaking their mind, look at Lukaku when he came back from chelsea, couldn't do anything

[@lordm5720]

Manager? Arteta Club? Tied between Newcastle (trophy drought) and Tottenham (banterability)

[@JackHarkcom]

For the first time in however long it is since one for the weekend I’m siding with Jim over Flav. As a Villa fan who’s seen us lose at Wembley 5 times I would kill a man to see us beat hull in the final of the league cup. I don’t care if we only play league 2 teams along the way.

[@barnaclefelching4079]

This Edwards business is going to be some journey

[@thomasguest9086]

Saying someone is “easily 6 foot plus” is definitely something a 5 foot 2 person would say

[@MatArmstrong330]

This is the most Spursy episode ever. Complaining about how you win Silverware!?!

[@YouAimYourArrowsHigh]

Newcastle fan here... while we arent part of the "greedy superleague 6" as James correctly calls them... weve spent a decent amount of money to try and catch up with them. Add to the fact we havent won anything since the 60s and I'd say we're basically the Spurs of the North at this point sadly 😅 I think we need the league cup more than spurs. They can have europa

[@joeirving1352]

Name forward+Hat in the ring = Name in the hat, another blinder Flav

[@thornton]

Name in the hat is a thing

[@st-ct9rl]

28:24 qpr formed first The Rangers didn’t become a team until 2012

[@miken56]

Pep out, Ange out, Arteta out, Jack Brain out!