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Does MinWax Pre-Stain Work❓ | Wood Conditioner

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Kelly Concepts

Kelly Concepts

Күн бұрын

🌲 I know you've probably heard about pre-stain or wood conditioner right? But have you actually been using it?
In this video, I will be comparing stains and how they look with and without the MinWax Pre-Stain Wood Conditioner. From my personal experience, I used to make most of my products without pre-stain and I would constantly see little blemishes and inconsistencies but all that has stopped when I upped my game and started using this stuff.
It's been a few years now of using this wood conditioner and I wouldn't have it any other way. Just look at how the Dark Walnut and Golden Oak turn out!
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MinWax Golden Oak:
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@KellyConcepts
@KellyConcepts 4 жыл бұрын
Yea music gets choppy there - original owner of the music had it copyright free and then decided to take ownership..... KZbin, ya know?
@davidhanna5640
@davidhanna5640 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@Zealant
@Zealant 2 ай бұрын
Sounds more like the artist being wishy-wishy than any doing of KZbin. Although because it affects KZbin, it is a very annoying way to be wishy-washy.
@brownievp3853
@brownievp3853 3 жыл бұрын
The key for a good stain finish is good sanding before applying the stain, conditioners change the color of your stain and give you no grain contrast, which is the point of staining wood.
@zeel4550
@zeel4550 2 жыл бұрын
I like the non pre stain
@PromNightDumpsterBaby420
@PromNightDumpsterBaby420 10 ай бұрын
What's the point of the pre stain conditioner then???
@EarthtonesCymbals
@EarthtonesCymbals 5 ай бұрын
You can apply additional coats of stain though for a richer color.
@Zealant
@Zealant 2 ай бұрын
@@PromNightDumpsterBaby420for people who like a more consistent color distribution maybe?? Ask them?????
@13F_Airborne
@13F_Airborne 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. The dark walnut became 'not dark walnut' which completely changed the color. I am glad I saw this video.
@JustMightDIY
@JustMightDIY 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so torn - I love the consistency of the stain with the conditioner, but I love how the grain pops more without...definitely something to try though, as we usually test out our stains before hitting a whole project. I've always wondered about these, and thanks to this vid, I now know more! Cheers!
@KellyConcepts
@KellyConcepts 4 жыл бұрын
Good idea testing your projects. I always just go for it and it's backfired a couple times - still never learn my lesson lol
@adalcampuzano1383
@adalcampuzano1383 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree about letting the grain pop out more. And to do that you can also consider burning the wood with a torch and then apply your products. Makes the grain pop out really nice
@ArtHeld
@ArtHeld Жыл бұрын
Nicely done! you can tell this is always a hot topic by the differing opinions, but whatever you like, you've given a great, simple, clear example here. THANK YOU!
@seanmbranch
@seanmbranch 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I can tell you think like a viewer. Using 2 pieces of wood for each demo was so much easier to see the difference than the way other videos on this subject present the differences. Keep up the great videos.
@rvuksonm
@rvuksonm 2 жыл бұрын
The prestain looks fancier, more subtle and when a whole floor has it, it will look cleaner and still very cozy.
@davids9793
@davids9793 Жыл бұрын
Ya ask me, the conditioner eliminates nearly all of that dreaded character frowned upon by so many
@jesussavesrick
@jesussavesrick 3 жыл бұрын
Regardless of who likes what outcome better, this was a GREAT video!! Great true comparison, thanks!!
@ronalddagostino3674
@ronalddagostino3674 3 жыл бұрын
need to discuss what wood species used. pine notorious for blotchy/streaky results. hardwood much less need for "pre-stain"
@Poor_Mans_DIY
@Poor_Mans_DIY 4 жыл бұрын
definite Two Thumbs Up from us. We watch many people apply stain but never see most use conditioner. I confess we have an unused can because we have gone nuts with epoxy lately. LOL very nice video explaining the need for conditioner!
@KellyConcepts
@KellyConcepts 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Poor Man! I still need to get into the epoxy side of things. Those projects look so cool
@melissameyer4717
@melissameyer4717 3 жыл бұрын
I'm convinced, thanks for taking the time.
@bidenstoletheelection9116
@bidenstoletheelection9116 2 жыл бұрын
Looks better without pre stain
@missourimule2827
@missourimule2827 3 жыл бұрын
I Build a lot of Cabins sometimes we use Pine logs sawmill pine lumber ETC this may sound crazy but Waste oil and Diesel fuel make a really good stain and it's cheap compared to Stain bought in the store.
@stevekobb3850
@stevekobb3850 8 ай бұрын
An excellent comparison. Many thanks for sharing.
@DennisMooney
@DennisMooney Жыл бұрын
Very helpful but with the dark walnut, you really don’t get that dark stain that you were looking for. If you put the treated product up against the suggested color on the outside of the can, they aren’t anything similar so I’m wondering if repeated stains are required to get that color.
@Usman-zp6ig
@Usman-zp6ig Жыл бұрын
Yes additional coats will result in darker finish
@charliewilson3234
@charliewilson3234 2 жыл бұрын
Proof is right here. Appreciate all the work bud.
@geoffrey4662
@geoffrey4662 2 жыл бұрын
thanks great way to show the value of pre stain
@MsTrueHappiness
@MsTrueHappiness 2 жыл бұрын
I kept trying to stain my stairs and it was coming out HORRIBLE with Jacobean stain. Going to sand ONCE MORE and try the conditioner. The guy at Ace said I didn’t need it. So upset!
@Jeff_Eats_Local
@Jeff_Eats_Local 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative video! I have never used it before but you have made me a believer
@KellyConcepts
@KellyConcepts 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's worth every penny (for important projects)
@sandrasimplytoday7772
@sandrasimplytoday7772 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing true comparisons. New subbie!
@isaactungate6669
@isaactungate6669 4 ай бұрын
Dark walnut looked like light walnut!
@devdawg22
@devdawg22 5 ай бұрын
Its basically the difference between rustic finish vs smooth finish
@brianwaskow5910
@brianwaskow5910 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great info. Big help.
@AceBunnee
@AceBunnee 7 ай бұрын
Hi! Old retired guy, trying to learn to butcher wood. Can I assume that its okay to stain while the conditioner is still wet? Thanks, CT
@PromNightDumpsterBaby420
@PromNightDumpsterBaby420 10 ай бұрын
Is there a reason why you apply the stain with a rag and not a paintbrush?
@kita3256
@kita3256 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@mav68nrs
@mav68nrs 3 жыл бұрын
the ones with out prestain look more rustic, and the dark stain makes them look like they were burned a bit
@KellyConcepts
@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, good point. It can look good without the conditioner based on preference. But I do have a few pieces like a giant headboard I made where there are blemishes on the wood that are very obvious and ugly. The conditioner would have prevented that. Hit and miss!
@hippo-potamus
@hippo-potamus 3 жыл бұрын
What did you use to apply and wipe off the excess? Old rag? Paper towel? How do you keep the small fabrics from not fraying and sticking to the wood?
@KellyConcepts
@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын
I usually use old rags - socks are my favorite haha. Typically my projects are sanded smooth so I don't have to worry about the snags
@hippo-potamus
@hippo-potamus 3 жыл бұрын
@@KellyConcepts Thank you! Great idea about the socks! I will use that for my project hahah :)
@PromNightDumpsterBaby420
@PromNightDumpsterBaby420 10 ай бұрын
Why not use a paintbrush???
@markklaus4558
@markklaus4558 3 жыл бұрын
Supposed to lightly sand after waiting 10 minutes.
@shig357
@shig357 3 жыл бұрын
What if you're doing multiple coats of stain to get a darker color? Do you pre-stain once or do you pre-stain before each additional coat?
@KellyConcepts
@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын
You'll only need to pre-stain the 1 time at the very beginning. It's done it's job of penetrating all of the wood at that point so you're good to put 2 coats of stain after.
@ahernandezut
@ahernandezut 3 жыл бұрын
Did you sand down the wood after the pre stain?
@EarthtonesCymbals
@EarthtonesCymbals 5 ай бұрын
not necessary to sand after pre-stain conditioner is applied. If you want more contrast, ie: darker, richer color, just add additional coats of stain to your liking.
@johnc1280
@johnc1280 3 ай бұрын
So basically it lightens up the end product
@RaeJ8
@RaeJ8 Жыл бұрын
@kellyconcepts What happens if I use a pre-stain but jump right to the sealer? Does it still help even if I don't use a stain?
@meralyilmaz7509
@meralyilmaz7509 3 жыл бұрын
very helpfullll thank you
@larissadonatiello2016
@larissadonatiello2016 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Is this pine you used in the examples pressure treated? If not, do you recommend using the pre stain conditioner for pressure treated wood also?
@Hữu-Nhân-2024
@Hữu-Nhân-2024 3 жыл бұрын
helpful clip
@raz318
@raz318 Жыл бұрын
No conditioner for me. Looks too clean that way! You lose all the gorgeous knots and grain. Guess it depends though on your tastes. Thanks for the video!
@izzuddinmuh5524
@izzuddinmuh5524 3 жыл бұрын
is there any way to do your own diy pre-stain formula i mean like using cheap clear varnish and then thin it down using mineral spirit or thinner as a pre stain, will it work?
@COH2000
@COH2000 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still confused about how long to leave the pre-stain on before applying the stain. I think you said about 10 minutes? Others say 1 to 2 hrs. I will be staining a previously (factory finished) walnut chair (actually has a vinyl cover but with wood arms that are worn).
@KellyConcepts
@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын
You can apply stain within 10 min to 2 hours after applying the pre-stain. You have a 2hr window of time to apply - but I usually just go at it 10min after applying pre-stain.
@COH2000
@COH2000 3 жыл бұрын
@@KellyConcepts Thank you for your response. The walnut is a hard wood so perhaps I need to leave the pre-stain on longer .
@usedtobered6816
@usedtobered6816 2 ай бұрын
You didn't tell your viewers that you're using OIL BASED conditioner which will require an oil based stain.
@trpshooter9945
@trpshooter9945 3 жыл бұрын
I have a messy stain job on a pine table. Will prestain work AFTER a first coat of stain has been applied?
@KellyConcepts
@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын
It could help blend the messy job, but it won't fix it completely
@stateniland
@stateniland 2 жыл бұрын
is there any rush in applying a stain over the pre-stain? Is it OK to allow the pre-stain to sit a day or 2 then apply a gel stain over it? Thank you Joe
@KellyConcepts
@KellyConcepts 2 жыл бұрын
the stain must be applied within about 2hrs from when you put on the pre-stain according to the instructions. I've never let it sit that long so I'm not sure what would happen
@stateniland
@stateniland 2 жыл бұрын
@@KellyConcepts OK ty! I gave 4 pocket doors that are hung and unfinished pine.. I want to Gel Stain them... I'm glad I came across this Pre-Stain MUST, :)
@stvnixrcks
@stvnixrcks 3 жыл бұрын
wow what a cutie!
@locklear308
@locklear308 3 жыл бұрын
Do you need this for Danish oil?
@incognitotorpedo42
@incognitotorpedo42 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't use it with Danish oil.
@Lolatyou332
@Lolatyou332 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't like how the pre-stain just removes most of the grain and makes it appear much lighter.
@deckerprairiewoodworks9826
@deckerprairiewoodworks9826 3 жыл бұрын
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@researchandbuild1751
@researchandbuild1751 Жыл бұрын
First of all don't use MinWax..their stain sucks. Use Rustoleum stains or Varathane. Pre-stain always lightens the color too much IMO. basically prestain is just a "laquer" of sorts that soaks into the wood, preventing the primary stain from absorbing deeper. Thus forcing a more consistent color because the stain can't penetrate. It mainly stays closer to the surface.
@chrisgriffith1573
@chrisgriffith1573 3 жыл бұрын
I know what it does... I want to know what the hell it is.
@Leolioness44
@Leolioness44 3 жыл бұрын
LOL I have to laugh because I don't want clean smooth look I want to achieve rustic weathered look
@jejemon123
@jejemon123 3 жыл бұрын
I like no pre-stain.
@locklear308
@locklear308 3 жыл бұрын
It depends on the wood
@sarahjoyce5041
@sarahjoyce5041 2 жыл бұрын
You example is terrible. The stain with pre stain have no color at all and mutes the natural wood grain. I will do without.
@brettking8663
@brettking8663 3 жыл бұрын
I read Kelly concepts and was expecting a hot girl 😭
@KellyConcepts
@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to disappoint! 😜
@brettking8663
@brettking8663 3 жыл бұрын
@@KellyConcepts it's ok. Still enjoyed the video. Thanks for making it
@Chris-si2lx
@Chris-si2lx 3 жыл бұрын
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