Does Monster Train Still Hold Up in 2024? (spoilers: yes)

[@Brildawg]

I've gotten so much respect for game designers from watching your videos. They really have to account for all sorts of nonsense from their playerbase, while still giving someone the idea they're doing good. Which they seem to be pulling off. So that's incredible really. Well done designers.

[@viziroth]

31:30 they didn't come back because rector resolved before they died because the train resolves from top down

[@jackeea_]

"Did anyone know Monster Train has mods" Last I checked yeah, but the only 4 classes are: * cute candy things * anime * anime (edgy) * my little pony)

[@hctaz]

I have become cursed from watching Rhapsody play this game for 50 billion hours. When you got the Heph event and didn’t take the multi strike guy, I was like, “CMON MAN! How does he not know about the secret next event that happens if you get a certain number of those cards in your deck?!” and then went, “Oh. Right. It’s secret.”

[@Revenger373]

Ive played lots of hours of this game and I can't ever remember what does those things do...I hate when games do that...just say it

[@AshEshyr]

@@Revenger373 both cards get an upgrade added to them when you move to the next ring if yu have 4 or more of them. spikedriver colonies get +20 attackk and remove the duplicate on extinguish effect, Automatic Railspikes get +10 magic power and consume, and remove the duplicate on slay effect. because the cards change by getting an upgrade added to them, its best to try and get magic shop or steel shop upgrades before you duplicate to 4 in your deck, so it can overstack the upgrades.

[@grundged]

*watching????

[@Ol.Cheese]

Monster train is great, too bad it doesn't lend itself too well to streaming. It's a deep game. Also I just commented this to boost engagement. You do make it a lot of fun to watch.

[@GZFenix-bj3xv]

It does, one of the best roguelikes I have played. Being the bad guys is awesome, being a mix of two bad guys each with his unique deck is just GOTY.

[@Gimmick_Standard]

I think monster train has been the GOAT for a while. 🎉

[@codesymphony]

the music is insanely good. i still hear it in my head and i haven't played it for years

[@BaneWilliams]

@@codesymphony It's a pity the company had no idea what it had and let it fall to waste. I tried my best to help them, but it all fell on deaf ears.

[@ransomemartin961]

I miss Northern Lions series on it. He sometimes actually played well

[@stephenclarkin4578]

@@BaneWilliams???? Games don’t need to be supported for years. They made a content rich game, with content rich dlc.

[@BaneWilliams]

@@stephenclarkin4578 That wasn't what I was talking about. During its release I was one of the top 10 players and was part of a podcast with several other content creators. We felt that much of the balance changes they were making were going in the incorrect direction, and that they were putting focus on the wrong things to make an evergreen game. There are still easily fixable niggles that exist in the game from launch, and none of the things that would make content creators go crazy over it was ever implemented.

[@ritterdesherbstes8058]

I know there is a pyre ready on most village squares, powered by the sts community, for the case someone saying this, but Monster Train is imho just genre peak.

[@tzera_rhuon]

That last stage brings a certain Darkest Dungeon quote to mind 😂

[@deltaphant_]

Monster Train is so much fun, I might like it even more than StS honestly!

[@shemsuhor8763]

I think MT is truly an improvement on STS, despite its flaws. MT kind of distills what STS does into (usually) shorter runs, with more available win conditions per run, more overall combinations, and a still difficult play style that remains fair. I'm pretty sure every run of MT is winnable in a way that simply isn't as convoluted as STS (although, I believe STS actually does have unwinnable seeds). Arguably STS has a higher skill ceiling, but at a certain point the level of understanding becomes absurd or impossible to decipher. Even the best STS players (Baalor and crew) can't CONSISTENTLY win every run, or even every other run. Multiple people have 100+ MT win streaks, and they're not always "easy" runs. I value the ability to be that consistent within the game, and find that level of reproducible outcome from high-skill to be testament to its superior design.

[@hexx3dd]

I’ve found this game through this video and I just want to say thank you, I’ve been obsessed with it for a few days now top tier game

[@PokaDott]

i know its kind of taboo to mention other youtubers in comments but I really think this game deserves way more love on the platform. If you're interested in high level Monster Train gameplay, please, please go check out RisingDusk or ItsTangilicious. Both post Monster Train videos a few times a week and are highlights of my day.

[@Batnano]

one of my favorite roguelike deckbuilders, too bad the game has benn abandonded by both the devs and the modding community

[@Ludokultur]

Still my favorite deckbuilder!

[@RottedMushroom]

Always love to see some Monster Train.

[@Hooded_Crusaders]

Keep up the great work man, i find most roguelikes just from your channel and found Dungeons and Degenerate Gamblers from you.

[@meyusran5040]

Olexa i bought landlord and terracards as you said can you give chance to 'dice and fold' i started playing like 2 days ago and i think i am addicted. I want to see you play so bad.Thanks for good content!

[@OlexaYT]

I will soon. I had some issues with it bc they had undisclosed AI art in it

[@azazeltheuncanny6118]

Lesgooo, my fav game, loving this series!!

[@alexkaplan1136]

Just this morning, I started a new Monster Train save after 3 years of not playing. What a weird coincidence.

[@EveGalang]

one of my favorite games of all time :)

[@gyrozeppeli8303]

Doubt youll see this and its been a while so i may be wrong but you probs couldve gotten the pixie thing at 5:16 by ascending it and placing a steward on top floor, otherwise wow I miss this game, gets hella difficult and i detest seraph the patient, he is evil incarnate

[@dudejohnson3583]

sorry i just have to say how painful it is that he keeps making his low hp high damage units stand in front

[@Chalo122790]

18:44 not really an useless card, you probably want to Increase the burnout on the Armor dude to actually get armor here and there as its not giving any armor dying at end of turn. 26:40 your relic causes damage when you use a consume (1 time use) card. 31:22 battle order is Top to bottom, center to outer. So your units dies after the resolve process. 54:30 So the extra damage got you, but I think you could have still won, I think if you let hero tank some damage turn 1, and let the other units on the back to kill, you could have had it a bit under control, but ofc game plays differently and maybe still is a lose. Also when playing this class the heal + burnout is a nice premium card, that heal is super good.

[@garcipat]

it shows that monster train has quiet a learning curve 😅

[@RaichuWizDom]

And they've still kept that error in the description of the game, and no one seems to catch it. Very odd. 'Multiple vertical battlegrounds.' The battlegrounds are horizontal. Always have been. If they were vertical battlegrounds, you'd be fighting from bottom to top, not left to right.

[@garcipat]

what a question lol. its one of the best of its kind.

[@voice9893]

Bring Back Monster train!!❤

[@Phrostbitex]

Such a tease. "did you guys know there are mods? I'm not gonna use them, but cool right?" 😂

[@jesusortega3674]

Try playing “vagante” if you haven’t played it.

[@OlexaYT]

We played it a long time ago, I honestly wasn’t the biggest fan of it but it’s worth me retrying

[@jackeea_]

open bob show vagante

[@polotypescf4582]

you should really look up cogmind ;D

[@dekina1198]

tyler, i love your videos.... but your positioning in this one is just.... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[@shemsuhor8763]

Game is good and could be great if it got a couple of final balance passes, but there are some characters/decks that are shockingly terrible (umbra, for ex) and some that are shockingly easy (imp queen for ex), for no explicable reason other than either laziness or lack or QA. There are mods that fix this, but balance "mods" always kind of leave a certain less-than-pleasant taste in my mouth. It wouldn't kill the actual devs to simply do a balance patch to make some of the more horrible builds and cards actually playable...

[@shemsuhor8763]

And yeah, STS has some "bad cards" but nothing is as unplayable bad as, say, mine collapse. You can win A20 runs with a clash build if the stars align. Nothing in MT makes a card like mine collapse playable ever, it's just always bad.

[@MrTrixton]

@@shemsuhor8763 ? are you sure , it's a niche card, but it's a good match for emberdrain when you start your turn are zero mana

[@diegomastro5681]

​​@@shemsuhor8763mine collapse is good. Can clear backline, gives you energy, goes well with emberdrain, a lot of upgrades are good on it (-1, +10, +20 consume, +10 piercing or +30 let you play it for free)

[@shemsuhor8763]

@@MrTrixton in the niche scenario where your draw order lines up and you have a viable kill target for mine collapse on a turn when you start with zero energy without having other cards that already solve this (like a holdover or multiple copies of the perils of production which is probably the culprit causing you to have emberdrain to begin with), then yes, mine collapse is playable (assuming it has a +damage added to it so that it actually does something on 0 cost play, meaning you're at least past ring 1 to have invested in your mine collapse). Consider mine collapse compared to, say, glimmer with a +damage buff which can simultaneously heal and clear half or more of a floor for only the cost of a 10 and pierce. But mine collapse was maybe a poor example. How about something like Ice Tornado or Enflame with their ridiculous costs of 3 and 2 energy. I can admit "unplayable" is hyperbole, but the point still stands that some of these cards are wildly just horrible for their costs. There's a school of thought where "they have to have horrible cards in the game to balance the game" but that just seems silly considering they could have added extra dead draws or extra train stewards to the starting deck or something instead of creating purposefully energy-deficient cards and purposefully energy-efficient cards. It doesn't make sense to design this way. If there are cards that exist only to bait the player or make the deck or selection pools worse, surely there was a better way to achieve the same outcome without the creation of "unplayable" or terrible cards? Perhaps a better example of this would be Enflame, Rage Serum, and Fortify. Rage Serum costs 0 but consumes and only adds 3 rage (6,4,2 damage without modifiers [+10 total damage over 3 turns]) to a single card. The only purpose for such a card is a free play on Diligence or removing it from your deck (which eats a precious vortex slot or costs gold). There's almost no scenario where you playing a rage serum to eat the consume will uniquely matter more than any other option you could've played. At the same time, there's a +5 armor card that also costs zero and does NOT have consume. Then, in the same deck, we get Enflame, which has 1 more rage than Rage Serum and the same armor output as Fortify, does not consume, but costs TWO energy? The value of these cards makes no sense. Sure, any of them is individually "playable" but there's no coherence here in what they are valuing to justify card cost. 3 rage with consume is, apparently, worth zero energy. 5 armor is worth 0 energy. +1draw (combing the cards) and +1 rage without consume suddenly makes the card cost TWO energy? But Engraft is energy neutral with no modifications and draws a card as well as providing a heal option (which is more useful for triggering unit procs than for its heal, but just like mine collapse you could, if you needed to, make it a useful heal as well). Engraft provides comically higher value than Enflame, Rage Serum, or Fortify. Or, maybe Hoarfrost Effigy is an even better example. A universally acknowledged terrible card in MT - and not even because it has incoherent cost issues (although it does), but because it's nearly impossible to ever use it effectively. What's the ideal use case for this card? Somehow if a player found themselves in a turn with 3 energy where they managed to apply a bunch of frost bite on floor 1 or 2 to a miniboss or really tanky unit that also didn't kill the other enemies on the floor, you could, for THREE energy, take that frost off of the enemies that initially survived it (meaning they live and advance to the next floor) and transfer it to the miniboss, and then double it. This card is unbelievably convoluted and terrible. Even at 0 cost finding opportunities to use it would be rare. But at 3 cost it only exists to troll the player and dilute the reward pool.

[@enricobersani8948]

I used to love the base game, this video gave me a little craving: can someone tell me if the dlc is worth it?

[@bjoernpagaming2485]

The dlc makes runs more complex. It introduces pact shards, which is a mechanic that lets you get some great upgrades at the cost of giving enemies buffs too. In my opinion, it is very much worth buying if you like the base game :)

[@diegomastro5681]

The dlc adds a lot, but you should be at least familiar with the game to appreciate it. If you can win basic runs then yes, absolutely. It has a mechanic where you can make your cards BUSTED but you pay for it with increased difficulty for the rest of the run, there's a new clan, new events and relics, and a new final boss

[@Igorious92]

Oh, overconfidence is your main enemy 😅 +8 enemy attack doesn't worth any price. You want to hide your Rector at the 3rd floor during last battles. I'ts pity that you hadn't tried exiled heroes and didn't meet Talos boss.

[@Laminated57]

Monster Train

[@maxmillian8375]

hell yeah

[@sheeringobject]

If it was on playstation too

[@Henfredemars]

Infinite replay value.

[@ThisChangeIsAwful]

ive played a shitload of monster train, great game

[@randomerpro]

There’s a spoiler in the title

[@helicoidcyme]

yay monster train :)

[@DyllonNolen]

14:16 oh no she hot

[@Hollow_174]

YOOOO

[@Batnano]

also disliked for playing on fast speed

[@TyrannisUmbra]

Monster Train was never really a game that I liked that much, compared to Slay the Spire and other similar games.

[@WD_Gaster66]

Yeah same, I don't exactly know what it is about the game that does not hook me as much as other games in the genre. Had a similar thing with Wildfrost when it first came out, and while recently I've gotten interested in actually watching it, it still doesn't fully have me hooked

[@muginc2668]

for me it's the "mobile game" look, it's just not very good looking imo

[@Igorious92]

After Monster Train, I can't enjoy with Slay the Spire - it looks too simple.

[@Igorious92]

@@muginc2668 I know many people that don't play Slay the Spire because it «looks ugly».

[@muginc2668]

@@Igorious92 i guess it's valid, it's just subjective