DOES NANA DESERVE THE NERF?

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Elgin

Elgin

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@Gian872
@Gian872 2 жыл бұрын
She's hidden gem, that's happened to Vale too. Vale was one of forgotten hero but some people try use him and realized how OP he is. And this happen to Nana too. I hope people don't find out about Kadita, because i don't want she get nerf :)
@rayanthony9230
@rayanthony9230 2 жыл бұрын
Nana only got popular after revamp.
@dontmindthename13
@dontmindthename13 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh she's just like quinevere, if you miss the skill then you're dead. But kadita is really great with that dmg reduction, immune cc, cc, and burst dmg
@treeguardien
@treeguardien 2 жыл бұрын
For me....nana has been always popular JUST because of that one little annoying piece of shiz....molina..whenever i play rank i see nana every single time
@rayanthony9230
@rayanthony9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@treeguardien have you seen elgin just said it's not popular in mythic 2 and above.
@gachablackchannel2915
@gachablackchannel2915 2 жыл бұрын
On the bright side she will get a skin..
@CyarentJN
@CyarentJN 2 жыл бұрын
Her first skill damage is the only skill that need to be nerf she can one shot boomerang a marksman and other heroes it can reach 2k per boomerang= 4k+
@Gian872
@Gian872 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. People are crying on how annoying and how insane her damage is. I think they just don't know how to counter Nana and try practicing tanky heroes so they won't be bursted easily by Nana.
@Klyde17
@Klyde17 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, her Skill 1 Base Damage is buffed few patches ago.
@naveengarg5494
@naveengarg5494 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gian872 Tanky heroes arent enough in every team composition Her slow effects and damage and everything really makes her deadly
@treeguardien
@treeguardien 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gian872 well....the whole team can't be tanks can we? Even if squishy heroes buy magic def items she stills SHRED through the hp
@treeguardien
@treeguardien 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gian872 even as a tank main she stills deal quite a lot of damage,also her skills aren't one hit,it Goes through anything soo even as a tank we can't cover our teammates because her boomerang and ult will still go right through us and hit others that are behind
@Ravenson-
@Ravenson- 2 жыл бұрын
The damage scaling and cooldown is the thing that they need to nerf. Her damage is so good plus she has a very long cast range that lets her defend and harass easily
@kris_kros15
@kris_kros15 2 жыл бұрын
I agree even with the all of her nerfs it doesn't make sense, a good and right positioning can still harass the enemy because of the high damage. After the update It seems like no change at all because of her damage
@bartimaeusn7863
@bartimaeusn7863 2 жыл бұрын
Look, i dont care about her passive, 1st nor ult skill. All i care about is molina. Silence + disarm + slow + dmg. One pack in single spamable skill. Hows that ok to you if you are her enemy?
@lawson7899
@lawson7899 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean her cooldown? She is a POKE hero type... Do you even understand what "poke" meaning?
@markmercado5077
@markmercado5077 2 жыл бұрын
considering that they put a delay on her ultimate, they should have not removed the slow effect from her 1st skill. her 2nd skill does not even instantly transform enemies. i agree with the nerf on her passive though. in this game, you can say that nana is still op but only because elgin’s enemies are clearly stupid, but in higher ranks, her nerfs will become more obvious EDIT: these players who say that NANA IS OP are clearly low-rank players 😂 try using nana in a ranked game in MG 800-1k+ points. you will see how easy it is to dodge her skills
@aeroncarlgeronilla2865
@aeroncarlgeronilla2865 2 жыл бұрын
nana is just harassing players
@KuyanImSigma
@KuyanImSigma 2 жыл бұрын
Nana is annoying already even with no slow effects...
@lifeisanightmare5902
@lifeisanightmare5902 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, it's better that way. She deserve the nerf
@brenzj3564
@brenzj3564 2 жыл бұрын
Developer just don't want you to play nana, that's all the reason
@brenzj3564
@brenzj3564 2 жыл бұрын
@@lifeisanightmare5902 coz ur all fcking dumb rushing nana while she has her ult.. it's like your checking bush even tho ur mm while ur saber enemy is 20 and 0
@kiff3842
@kiff3842 2 жыл бұрын
Nana: "Do- do you hate Nana?" Everyone: *"YES"*
@Kiido11
@Kiido11 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@shrmp5055
@shrmp5055 2 жыл бұрын
She's the soul reason why I stopped playing tanks and moved to supports
@Kyugired
@Kyugired 2 жыл бұрын
@@shrmp5055 Fr bro, TANK users'S *WORST NIGHTMARE in RANKED MATCHES is NANA*
@L4zyasz
@L4zyasz 2 жыл бұрын
yeah bruh her pig molina is so annoying interrupting my combo set. makes me wanna hunt her down with roger or sum
@ghuxiin
@ghuxiin 2 жыл бұрын
Yeaaaa i hate her
@4vatarnick
@4vatarnick 2 жыл бұрын
The way I see it, she was too good at being both a Mage/Support hero who could build full Mage items and still support her team greatly with no consequences at all. Now she has to consider whether she wants more utility in Ice Queen Wand or more damage in Lightning Truncheon with her item building (this is just an example) and I think it’s completely fair, in the right hands she makes games impossible to comeback from because of how oppressive her existence is and similarly to Franco I feel that the nerfs were deserved. She’s still going to remain a really strong hero with her burst damage and her Molina but now her opponents have more of a chance to play against her, simple as that.
@keqingsimp5676
@keqingsimp5676 2 жыл бұрын
people like you are hated by nana mains
@bitbybot3
@bitbybot3 2 жыл бұрын
I think one of the reasons nana is so popular is because she can be played alot more passively while dishing out huge damage . Her kit is basically a perfect support set not to mention her survivability ( Nana passive + immortality )
@fakesun1700
@fakesun1700 2 жыл бұрын
She kinda does, she a strong burst with a short cd while having immortality Don't get started on molina
@jianlin3952
@jianlin3952 2 жыл бұрын
That only makes her balanced compared to other heroes bc she truly fulfills her roles
@kingraplhmativo5178
@kingraplhmativo5178 2 жыл бұрын
Her Molina.....
@kierzsenpai3542
@kierzsenpai3542 2 жыл бұрын
...... Yes that Molina........
@hywm132420
@hywm132420 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, to those who feel nana is hard to deal with, mostly because you never pay attention to the map. If you focus on your map, you can see what nana/support is doing/going. Nana is actually very squishy, even though with her passive. If nana were to be nerfed until she couldn’t kill/deal damage, it is better for Moonton to totally remove this hero. Or, you change another game to play, as easy as that. Every hero has its strengths and weaknesses. If you can’t deal with certain heroes, most probably, you are not familiar with that hero yet.
@sean893
@sean893 2 жыл бұрын
The majority of the players complained about Nana. Now she is no longer dangerous to deal with.
@ramon-cape
@ramon-cape 2 жыл бұрын
or maybe because most players think the hero they complain about is just overpowered.
@hskdjh421
@hskdjh421 2 жыл бұрын
When I'm playing against Nana, what I hate about her is the duration of her morph skill. 45 years of not being able to fight back is crazy, just like Moskov, Selena and Yin's stuns.
@darknessinc.Inc830
@darknessinc.Inc830 2 жыл бұрын
Well...dont forget lolita's ult
@holorizu7316
@holorizu7316 2 жыл бұрын
45 years of death
@kingraplhmativo5178
@kingraplhmativo5178 2 жыл бұрын
@@darknessinc.Inc830 lolita is a nightmare for ranged-type heroes.
@darknessinc.Inc830
@darknessinc.Inc830 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingraplhmativo5178 that is why i main her :), MMs are the best carry, and i need a way to deal with them, since i can never trust my team hahahah
@keenbaltazar558
@keenbaltazar558 2 жыл бұрын
Selena needs to hit from afar to achieve long stun, Moscov needs to pin the target on a wall or an allied hero Yin needs to make sure the enemy is within his skill path to stun While Nana just have to fucking put the poop out and wait for it to chase someone then there you go. They're definitely not alike.
@petercolinumali7497
@petercolinumali7497 2 жыл бұрын
remember the time when the discussions point out to nana being the best counter to akai?.. the devs found a way to both sell the starlight nana and sell the akai kung fu panda skin.. in the end, after all is said and done, she was nerfes so that the can sell kung fu panda collab skin
@skullx22
@skullx22 2 жыл бұрын
4:16 Here Gusion can see you on the bush while you are healing,so you were 50% alive and 50% dead most of players does that healing in the bush while enemies can see the heal effect
@epicbosco
@epicbosco 2 жыл бұрын
Oh fr? I only knew about the recall thing (it’s why I choose quieter recalls). Thanks for the info
@skullx22
@skullx22 2 жыл бұрын
@@epicbosco and that too is a fact same recalls have loud noises,You are welcome
@simplerose24
@simplerose24 2 жыл бұрын
One way to counter her Play aggressive. If a Nana misses her Molina and her ult that's almost a free kill Playing safe is bad and your letting them push your lane All of the nerfs were unnecessary. Little tip: use ult for the slow then 2nd skill so you can actually land it
@shrmp5055
@shrmp5055 2 жыл бұрын
Well also if you have something to counter punch her cc and high damage. Like a diggie or something
@ramiroloria2185
@ramiroloria2185 2 жыл бұрын
I don't really think nana deserved that bad of a nerf. I think just a little adjustment to her damage is enough. I think the worst nerf was the nerf on her skill 1
@whatamistudio2557
@whatamistudio2557 2 жыл бұрын
I agree she needs a nerf on her damage
@lumine3556
@lumine3556 2 жыл бұрын
If they nerfed her damage, she would be completely useless. Should've just left it alone at the increased time interval for her ult and the passive CD. I still think 30 more seconds is a lot for her passive.
@quango2707
@quango2707 2 жыл бұрын
she bursted 1/2 hp of my tigreal with 3 magic defense items💀( boots, radiant armor and oracle), no athena of course since im scared of nana and they have 4 physical damage dealers
@lumine3556
@lumine3556 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe if they had to nerf some damage, they could've decreased the damage on her first skill a bit in the early game
@lumine3556
@lumine3556 2 жыл бұрын
@@quango2707 Athena always works best against Nana. Usually good Nana players are really fast with the combo. When i use Nana, i find it really annoying if they have Athena. Can't kill them in a single combo. End game though, 1 burst is enough to kill squishy heroes without Athena or Radiant armour.
@Xis2003
@Xis2003 2 жыл бұрын
Moonton really hates Nana edit: her old skills is way better before it got replaced the only thing I hate in the old Nana is her passive.
@gocraft1346
@gocraft1346 2 жыл бұрын
We also hate her
@AnimeGamingPal
@AnimeGamingPal 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah she was so decent but she got nerfed
@comebackz5279
@comebackz5279 2 жыл бұрын
not really
@AkumaGami6
@AkumaGami6 2 жыл бұрын
She deserves it, such an annoying hero used mainly for pssy players
@kotaro4760
@kotaro4760 2 жыл бұрын
At this point it’s animal abuse, she’s being nerfed so hard
@CYPHER360_
@CYPHER360_ 2 жыл бұрын
Well deserved. Too much annoying cc.
@R153-o5b
@R153-o5b 2 жыл бұрын
Deserve
@jerondxniel
@jerondxniel 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@skyhigh7343
@skyhigh7343 2 жыл бұрын
Her damage, cc and passive makes me wanna commit animal cruelty
@themilkbox5439
@themilkbox5439 2 жыл бұрын
leonin abuse
@CommanderSlayers
@CommanderSlayers 2 жыл бұрын
Throughout my experience, yes she deserves the nerf. Nana is one of those heroes that's easy to master and deals an insane amount of dmg. Not to mention a passive Immortality as well. Just one combo along with Flameshot is enough to kill any mm and most mages with just half of mage items. Basically she's pretty much extremely useful in your team but a pain in the arse as well as a nightmare in the opposite team.
@zardious6155
@zardious6155 2 жыл бұрын
"pain in the arse" are you bri'ish?
@Badget007
@Badget007 2 жыл бұрын
For me, if I'm going to build Clock of Destiny, it's my first or second item to build because building it in late game doesn't make sense. Before you can reach 12 stacks, the game will probably be over
@alsaree123
@alsaree123 2 жыл бұрын
i also thought so when i saw how late he built it haha
@E_E69
@E_E69 2 жыл бұрын
Slow on every skill is a little too op. She has one of the best CCs and it's 1.5s long. Her dmg scaling is too high, her 2st skill is enough to put mms to half in health in late game, and with flameshot, it's almost a sure kill
@BigBoiApang
@BigBoiApang 2 жыл бұрын
Nana: don't bully me!!! Also nana : Bullies everyone 👀
@geraldlinsangan1642
@geraldlinsangan1642 2 жыл бұрын
i guess the additional 30 section on her passive skill will going to be affect to muck in her gameplay especially when it comes to surprise attack by the enemy also in team fight in other side its a good update nana is so annoying when comes to team fight her damage and survivability 😭 neways looking for upcoming videos keep safe
@submarinemagnet7965
@submarinemagnet7965 2 жыл бұрын
imo, removing boomerang slow + increased time of explosion ult = more dmg. Why? I did ult boomerang combo and boomerang ult combo and ended up PREVENTING the enemy from HITTING THE SECOND EXPLOSION because of the boomerang slow. Now it would be MUCH EASIER to hit 2 explosions on enemies because they don't get slowed down anymore and explosion will happen slower, giving more time for enemies to WALK INTO IT WITHOUT BEING SLOWED by boomerang
@johndaneconraddonato375
@johndaneconraddonato375 2 жыл бұрын
Yah they taught they nerf but they actually buff her 😈
@josef-1209
@josef-1209 2 жыл бұрын
oh ok then💀 it's an unintentional buff then
@KaiselGs
@KaiselGs 2 жыл бұрын
Talking in personal experience every nerf in her passive and molina is a warm in my soul,speaking imparcialy i don't think it was nescessary but i don't think we can do much unless we repeat the same thing we did about estes blacklist skin
@bry8936
@bry8936 2 жыл бұрын
Before nerf i always dealt 200k+ dmg . This little adjustment is fair tbh.
@petercutamora4503
@petercutamora4503 2 жыл бұрын
Not even the zilong bot in training camp has 200k HP -_-
@bry8936
@bry8936 2 жыл бұрын
@@petercutamora4503 ??
@Jesus_is_savior
@Jesus_is_savior 2 жыл бұрын
At least the damage wasn’t needed she’s still amazing
@ihavealltypesofphobias
@ihavealltypesofphobias 2 жыл бұрын
Yes because she kept sliding her way to victory
@magic.42
@magic.42 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda sad that Moonton doesn't have their priorities straight and would rather buff new heroes or still relevant ones instead of adjusting the playing field for every hero making them all viable. Nana is what I refer to as a "Yordle" type character. Much similar to champs from League like Teemo, Lulu, Tristana, etc. She's a zoner with high damage that will most likely slow down your pace, and in a game like ML where the games are fast paced right now, she's pretty unique because of her kit and how she plays. If you don't know how to play against Nana or you're not paying attention to what she's doing, you'll obviously lose. It's sad that they had to nerf her down. I'm betting not a lot of people even play her above my rank (I'm in Epic) because there's a good chance that there are better control mages that suit the job and do things better than her. They could have just adjusted Nana's damage numbers entirely, but they really had to burn her down to the ground 😔
@anonymus927
@anonymus927 2 жыл бұрын
I only want 2 buff for nana his 2 and pasive
@heretic3334
@heretic3334 2 жыл бұрын
Nana is still a priority pick in high-Legend to Mythic. She’s in a position where she isn’t too much to be considered for banning, but she still performs pretty well when compared against every other mage in the current roster.
@shub_2005
@shub_2005 2 жыл бұрын
Epic...
@yogurt155
@yogurt155 2 жыл бұрын
Me: Hey Moontoon, Beatrix just dealt over half of my hp with her sniper auto and I'm using tank. Maybe you can nerf her a bit... Moontoon: Oh alright, we're going to nerf Nana. Me: But Beatrix is what I... Moontoon: And done, we nerfed the girl racoon, happy? Me: Wtf!? Moontoon: You're welcome fam, I got you.
@arbiter6859
@arbiter6859 2 жыл бұрын
Nana deserves a nerf, but this one is pretty hard either remove the ultimate nerf or the slow on the 1st, completely agree with the passive nerf since the passive only teaches new players to get false security and die to a chase hero...
@zacktrever1878
@zacktrever1878 2 жыл бұрын
Wait... Nana was even MORE powerful?????? Edit: Nana aint hard to play against I imagine it was a nightmare when her 1 skill had 40 pct slow
@imlost2862
@imlost2862 2 жыл бұрын
0:12 I thought balmond was the cutest
@Monkey_Business_JJ
@Monkey_Business_JJ 2 жыл бұрын
5:50 "I wonder why Xborg couldn't push it." -A wild Jawhead appears. "They see me rolling~" -Me "Yup. That's why. Theme song and all." lol
@suffering9481
@suffering9481 2 жыл бұрын
5:38 Thats hilarious to me lmao "Shut down" "UNSTOPPABLE"
@RockAim
@RockAim 2 жыл бұрын
Elgin: I think there Gandom is trying to chasse me. Me: Did i misheard something?
@13thravenpurple94
@13thravenpurple94 2 жыл бұрын
Great work 🥳🥳🥳 Thank you 💜💜💜
@jimuelvillanueva5459
@jimuelvillanueva5459 2 жыл бұрын
Nooo!! this is a bad nerf for nana, and as a nana main it's going to be more hard to use her since she relies on her second to deal free damage and moontoon removed the slow effect on her 1st skill her slow effect is the only reason so molina can chase the enemy to transform and after that use her 3rd automatic dead I think just a little damage nerf can be good but getting the slow effect removed and delaying her 3rd is not cool moontoon
@juniorlapoint4056
@juniorlapoint4056 2 жыл бұрын
They just dont want her to be like Eudora I guess. I mean slow for EASY stun, even MORE slow, and then a stun that's has slow on the side. It was just tapy tap tap. I've played her like 4 times and she was OP. The nerf was ,in my opinion, needed. And the fact you said automatically dead and FREE damage proves my point. They are definitely over doing it a bit, but it's needed. I believe they need nerf her puppet. Most Nana mains use her just to annoy enemies with it. Just nerf it a SMALL amount so those players stop using her and people like you can still enjoy the hero. If only Moonton would listen to it's player base and not just marketing.
@saynmakio3291
@saynmakio3291 2 жыл бұрын
Nana main since 2020 here. Sad at first but easily got used to it.
@KiyeHid
@KiyeHid 2 жыл бұрын
She doesn't deserve this nerf. *SHE DESERVES MORE*
@CydNelleACoral
@CydNelleACoral 2 жыл бұрын
The remove slow is very effected because. you can't really escape the burst. and now you just need to dodge the second skill
@_.zxc._
@_.zxc._ 2 жыл бұрын
but slow effect on her first skill is the only way to consider it as supportive skill. now its only purpose is for damage dealing which is useless and nonsense for a support
@jianlin3952
@jianlin3952 2 жыл бұрын
She definitely became one of the perfect mages but moonton simply cannot allow us to have nice things
@Monkey_Business_JJ
@Monkey_Business_JJ 2 жыл бұрын
9:40-Enemy in the bush. "RWARRRR!!!" "Oh, shoot!" This video was awesome. :D
@stienparagas2236
@stienparagas2236 2 жыл бұрын
I love how jawhead sings "they saw me rolling"
@markzaikov456
@markzaikov456 2 жыл бұрын
She's still popular because of her utilities, 2nd skill CC just deters all fighters or even block out paths
@itsmemiyano
@itsmemiyano 2 жыл бұрын
only time can tell if she is still overpowered or not. her dmg isnt touched but she took a huge hit on her utilities. the slow on her first skill is really good for suppressing enemies from engaging/for catching enemies. her ult now takes a bit more time before it activates which can hurt her burst dmg/oneshot
@-Luocha-
@-Luocha- 2 жыл бұрын
I think Nana deserves the nerf because she was kinda op but I hope they don't nerf her too much to the point she becomes useless.
@dragos-andreirotaru2316
@dragos-andreirotaru2316 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf op? She was just overpicked by trollers
@menantumakawak
@menantumakawak 2 жыл бұрын
OP but was still fairy balanced
@juniorlapoint4056
@juniorlapoint4056 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. They need to nit over nerf her. For example, harith, he is basically useless bc of the TREMENDOUS nerfs. Let's not repeat that on Nana.
@rexellpaullopez5410
@rexellpaullopez5410 2 жыл бұрын
Even there removed the slow effects on her 1st skill you can still build Ice Queen Wand for her? Note:For guys didn't know yet Ice Queen Wand gives you slow effects+10% Magic Lifesteal and Movement Speed. And Nana main here.
@Rheiss
@Rheiss 2 жыл бұрын
u can but I feel like it’s meh now :/ I always liked the book ice queen wand build for her more than the lightning trunch one because of the slow but they just removed it entirely
@Aryues
@Aryues 2 жыл бұрын
Nana is burst not dps type mage so i dont think it will usefull for nana. U could buy holy crystal or glaive for that slot. Or even immortal is better
@friednoodle6582
@friednoodle6582 2 жыл бұрын
Heh, just slap an ice queen wand on Nana then your good to go. She's still OP IMO.
@kimmyw0322
@kimmyw0322 2 жыл бұрын
still playing Nana even after nerf. she's still okay and can deal damage. the only thing I don't like is more delay on her ult
@johndaneconraddonato375
@johndaneconraddonato375 2 жыл бұрын
Yah
@yuki-dp6wp
@yuki-dp6wp 2 жыл бұрын
Below mythic 5 they never read patch auto lock nana layla miya Lesley they don't care abt update 😂
@Wetbanana-r6r
@Wetbanana-r6r 2 жыл бұрын
She doesn't deserve the 150 second passive I think it's too much
@IZXEVANA
@IZXEVANA 2 жыл бұрын
It's fair I think
@menantumakawak
@menantumakawak 2 жыл бұрын
@@IZXEVANA it's fair to add 30 seconds?
@quango2707
@quango2707 2 жыл бұрын
she’s a hard counter to akai, so don’t expect buffs until the kung fu event is over
@rexellpaullopez5410
@rexellpaullopez5410 2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe there should buff her passive like benefits from cooldown reduction?
@satyrsorb912
@satyrsorb912 2 жыл бұрын
theres a funny flameshot combo with nana. if your enemy is next to you, you can ult on them, then flameshot to push them into the next blast. its great for counterplay and bushcamping
@jacerebil
@jacerebil 2 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping they'd nerf Beatrix in the latest patch
@made13145
@made13145 2 жыл бұрын
Nana with MM build still a fcking nightmare in Epic or Legends. She still dishes some magic dmg when she max level and add some atk speed from MM build and maybe ice queen so her skill 1 have some slow effect and u got quite a formidable hybrid Nana..
@aprildc3377
@aprildc3377 2 жыл бұрын
I actually use Nana and Angela most of the time (given not banned hehe) , nerfed or buffed, I dont really mind that much... though , developer could have her skills/damaged a balanced one not a total nerf..
@nahmanaman9631
@nahmanaman9631 2 жыл бұрын
Love ur voice dude,love from Nagaland
@takumauzumakiamv5077
@takumauzumakiamv5077 2 жыл бұрын
Moonton how much do you want to annoy the players? Them: yes
@nightstalker5526
@nightstalker5526 2 жыл бұрын
elgin: she's one of the cutest ones also elgin: *shows balmond*
@lovely.me.
@lovely.me. 2 жыл бұрын
I think Ice queen Wand will work fir the changes on her first skill. Like that you will still have the slow effect
@renetteryaniicurioso109
@renetteryaniicurioso109 2 жыл бұрын
I played her recently. She is still good. I build with talisman, IQW , & Necklace, so i could still support & cc/burst without getting killed easily. I cant do the 1,2,3 combo anymore without the s1 slow. I did the 3,2,1 combo which is alright since there is delay with S3. Only thing is that i am not sure if s2 def. red. will be usefull in this combo(it adds more damage to s1 after molina cc but less than s3?). Also S3 needs good timing and more slow from items since some heroes have speedboost skills. Anyway this combo is like 2.5 second stun (s3-s2) which is deadly during team fights. I think the nerf is ok coz she has so many slows and stuns. The only thing i could wish to compensate this nerf is more duration (like 3 secs?) or hp (15%?) or speed (80%?) for molina blessing when triggered.
@ducklife_1
@ducklife_1 2 жыл бұрын
Well, nana doesn't want us to bully her so....
@perfectkiller7090
@perfectkiller7090 2 жыл бұрын
Basicly moontoon want nana as a mage/poke more than support after 1st skill and passive nerf .her 1st was her key to a good combo with her burst to a guaranteed hit but now it will be hightly depend on 2nd skill or godly prediction or a good cc from team like atlas. the best way to counter nana is by cc removal skills or ambush/burst her before she put her 2nd skill..also her early game dmg is not high so trying to pick early game heroes to finish faster will make nana less scary.
@Abhishekonhisway
@Abhishekonhisway 2 жыл бұрын
I ban her right away cuz I can't deal with molina 💀💀
@Roy-Editor
@Roy-Editor 2 жыл бұрын
amazing video💯💯💯 nice game idol💪💪👍👍 Support from Malaysia🌠🌠🌠
@zoevelasquezvlogs1563
@zoevelasquezvlogs1563 2 жыл бұрын
On the advance server, they always ban her. I don't know why, but despite the nerfs she can still deal a decent amount of damage. Damage build is good, but cd build is much better because her 2nd skill is really effective against the assassin heroes. I just hate the fact that after her starlight skin, she wasn't that old Nana I've loved before. I know how annoying it is to play against her but with a lot of high mobility heroes, Nana's second skill can counter them. But the range, passive and damage nerfs are insane! This is too much! 😭💔🥺
@panda_MT
@panda_MT 2 жыл бұрын
No no no they need to nerf her even more.. Despite being a supporr hero her damage is too high plus her molina and passive
@allen019
@allen019 2 жыл бұрын
just revert nana to support focused role moonton dont be shy
@prof_jesus
@prof_jesus 2 жыл бұрын
Let's ask ourselves- how often do we see Nana at Mythic and above? Not a lot, compared to actual OP heroes like Beatrix. Sure, Nana is more viable and easier for beginners and less experienced players, but how long does a player stay inexperienced? Not that long. By the third month of playing ML, everyone gets the basics in order, and by then, she's usually boring. But then again, nerfing a non-meta hero over and over while actual unbalanced heroes run rampant is what we expect out of Moonton tho.
@zironaquino8439
@zironaquino8439 2 жыл бұрын
Classic moonton
@Tian113
@Tian113 2 жыл бұрын
That is just untrue. I encounter nana in mythic almost every other match.
@chrisolemarllido3559
@chrisolemarllido3559 2 жыл бұрын
You got it
@chrisolemarllido3559
@chrisolemarllido3559 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tian113 not me aftet the nerf
@xen0n_ML
@xen0n_ML 2 жыл бұрын
I see nana in almost every game in mythical glory sea server
@trollmc3454
@trollmc3454 2 жыл бұрын
Eligin: We better win the clash Me: I see car driving away
@ashruffabdullah
@ashruffabdullah 2 жыл бұрын
Every time i see my team awfully and poorly play the game when solo rank/classic, i always mention ur name so they watch ur channel and learn things from you. I hope they did to improve their gameplay.. really hard to see player know how to play well as a team.
@legendryscorpion5962
@legendryscorpion5962 2 жыл бұрын
Beatrix still running wild with her shotgun 4shotting tanks and one or two shotting squishy heroes
@FinerStuff
@FinerStuff 2 жыл бұрын
If you're a solo playe6, it's not about how good you are with your hero, it's about what kind of teammates you'd get. If you get 2 to 3 feeder teammates good luck with that. Most times I get even 4 feeder teammates.
@dolphineshong7913
@dolphineshong7913 2 жыл бұрын
They can nerf the dmg but pls bring back the range and utility of her second skill. That's why I love to play her in rank as a tank bec of her annoying.
@KanhaiyaUltimatum
@KanhaiyaUltimatum 2 жыл бұрын
Yes she does, first on list is Molina. If they want to keep Molina like that then Nerf damage and scaling.
@YFDXD
@YFDXD 2 жыл бұрын
I think the nerf is too hard. Also the adjustments on Melissa made her alot weaker. She wasn't meta at all not sure why they had to do it.
@marksajonas7181
@marksajonas7181 2 жыл бұрын
I think her 2nd skill should be nerfed also, aside from the reduced magic resistance (which you already transformed) the range is wide for zoning, either reduce the time Molina stays or reduce the radius range.
@kingdee3913
@kingdee3913 2 жыл бұрын
They need to leave Nana alone, and Nerf fucking Beatrix with her insane physical damage scaling in her sniper and shotgun basic attacks. She has 4 different ultimate skill, 2 of which are good for clearing minion wave, and the other 2 for bursting enemies.
@kingdee3913
@kingdee3913 2 жыл бұрын
All they ever needed to do was revert the damage scaling buff of her first skill and she’s fine. Her first skill deals more damage than Kagura’s umbrella, and it deals damage twice.
@AhWayneWayne
@AhWayneWayne 2 жыл бұрын
I think nana real problem is the recent starlight skin, where her ulti round ring is quite transparent, many times i bump into her ulti because the visual effect is hard to see. Dev should do something about this skin ulti visual effect.
@hokwang264
@hokwang264 2 жыл бұрын
I think it still not enough for Nana nerfs because 1)In september there is incoming new emblem system to replace old emblem system 2)Nana emblem build possible is reduce CD and meteor hit if success cast skill on enemy 3)Her current skin like starlight able blind enemy to easliy to cast ult on them 4)Her movement speed too fast if compare rest of mage heroes made her more easily dodge
@Alexandre-cd9ys
@Alexandre-cd9ys 2 жыл бұрын
They just nerfed her bc the Starlight skin is over lol
@jirayusphisitphunyaphat1075
@jirayusphisitphunyaphat1075 2 жыл бұрын
I see Nana, I play Xavier she can't touch me. Plus she is quite squishy 1 ult and she almost dead. If he's banned than Kadita works well too.
@swaggamesph3342
@swaggamesph3342 2 жыл бұрын
Im a Nana user, after the nerf on molina, i stopped using her.😆 Molina is probably one of the best skill in mL before the nerf.
@llucasss6173
@llucasss6173 2 жыл бұрын
She deserve it, the 2 stun, her abused damage and all that for a support who can be immortal if well played. Even if i prefer the nerf that they cancel for her molina bc this is the only thing that make her abused with his long duration, short cd and the slow that it give.
@leyokph
@leyokph 2 жыл бұрын
Nerfed but still dominating the game. No slow? No problem, just build ice queen wand. Anyway its the molina that os giving the enemies a hard time because of the disruption it causes in team fights.
@apitapi
@apitapi 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad she got nerfed. At some point I just started banning her because she would be picked in every game, however when I banned her people would get angry/mad or troll even harder. This is a good solution. (Low rank yes)
@OII.01
@OII.01 2 жыл бұрын
Nana is still my 3rd favorite & 3rd most played hero with 800+ play
@ceae69
@ceae69 2 жыл бұрын
they didn't need to nerf the utility, it's just her damage that needs adjustments, she's now leaning to becoming more of a mage than the support she originally was
@hmmm_m.
@hmmm_m. 2 жыл бұрын
Moonton should make Nana first skill just like thamuz first skill when she throws the boomerang,Nana should gain extra moving speed .
@Jaspieces
@Jaspieces 2 жыл бұрын
i can stomach the additional cd on passive and ult but when they remove the slow on her first thats too much.
@christianaito2254
@christianaito2254 2 жыл бұрын
Does she deserve the nerf? Short answer : YES Long answer : .... Insert it yourself :)
@dr0wn8888
@dr0wn8888 2 жыл бұрын
She is mother fucking loli and ofc she need a nerf
@neilgondra7379
@neilgondra7379 2 жыл бұрын
No no you got a point.
@markjosephyanson1669
@markjosephyanson1669 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of nana, try nerfing BEATRIX moontoon!!!! Once she have the core items, she’s unstoppable.
@juniorlapoint4056
@juniorlapoint4056 2 жыл бұрын
She does need a nerf, but she's mm. All mm are unstoppable once core is achieved if you decently understand position.
@markjosephyanson1669
@markjosephyanson1669 2 жыл бұрын
Since the tank meta is nearly gone, it seems that MMs would always have the insurance to reach their power spikes. The thing with bea is, kahit nalulugi pa yan sa early, lahat durog nyan sa late game in 2-3 combos
@juniorlapoint4056
@juniorlapoint4056 2 жыл бұрын
@@markjosephyanson1669 fair
@mashmallow3251
@mashmallow3251 2 жыл бұрын
keep up bro!! i hope one day my channel and videos will recognize someday!🥰
@azhimahmad5652
@azhimahmad5652 2 жыл бұрын
Nana actually works just fine..for the last few seasons, but the only problem is she's just boring and meant to play passively...however, nana is very good at zoning out and disrupt team fight.. plus people dont wanna waste their skill on her... that's why she's being picked often
@Clntntrrs
@Clntntrrs 2 жыл бұрын
Nana is powerful because her damage output is still the same; they only nerfed the skill effects. She's the reason whyI reached the Mythical Glory and being on the Top PH spot 😍
@akashiYami
@akashiYami 2 жыл бұрын
it just made me less aggressive since the passive is longer and changed my build cause nana slow was one of her defense no matter how small it was so ice queen may be a top pick
@renetteryaniicurioso109
@renetteryaniicurioso109 2 жыл бұрын
Shes a really good burst mage now using combos..IQW is a must to help aim her combos effectively.
@vince3685
@vince3685 2 жыл бұрын
It was a big nerf for her, nana is my main but now she's meh... I miss her slow from 1st skill..first they adjust the range of her second skill now they make her passive long duration and they remove her slow effect
@user-fy8rv4hg8v
@user-fy8rv4hg8v 2 жыл бұрын
The problem here is Athena's Shield. Athena's Shield's passive is so easy to trigger when Lightning Truncheon is equipped by an enemy hero, or even Windtalker.
@Ali_HoKgaming
@Ali_HoKgaming 2 жыл бұрын
Her ulti can stan the enemy. I suggest to use this combo "ulti, second, first"
@Barbruhhhh
@Barbruhhhh 2 жыл бұрын
I am actually more focused when playing nana. Her kit is fun and annoying at the same time.
@danielvieira1808
@danielvieira1808 2 жыл бұрын
Nana was perfectly balanced till moontoon started to apply changes on her for no reason
@doramaluvr
@doramaluvr 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree
@Verg_Iviu
@Verg_Iviu 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly it's just Nana's capabilities got nerf and not her damage that's why she remains her spot on the meta
@lycidaes4752
@lycidaes4752 2 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair She is in every single match rn. And im not that low rn.(mystic 2). Like every single match. Zher nerf helped her popularity for some reason
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