Does Rebounding Matter in The NBA Anymore?

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Rusty Buckets

Rusty Buckets

4 жыл бұрын

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@rustybuckets
@rustybuckets 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve come a long way from thinking the Warriors should trade for Drummond lol New MyGM video! - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJm0gGOoarqjhKM film channel - kzbin.info/door/PqMrQmfSs0aBI5sAjHAjZgvideos New episode of the podcast: KZbin - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYmxlXmjYqaAiMU Spotify - open.spotify.com/episode/7rLCtso18IpTgH2iepTf28?si=76-Jyg92Tm2QbA_2vgWb6g GOATmentary FULL - kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5_Ec2WfbrqWh5Y Follow me on twitter- twitter.com/RustyBUCKETS321 19-20 NBA Talk Playlist - kzbin.info/aero/PLLNV2let-mr8j7mLWzpJR9yxBPsTt8yuz
@x-masklll2731
@x-masklll2731 4 жыл бұрын
Do a Jrue Holiday video
@lucidpsychic7601
@lucidpsychic7601 4 жыл бұрын
That football analogy was super fucking good
@mesysala967
@mesysala967 4 жыл бұрын
Love your vids Your work rate mad💪🏾
@mazengwe28
@mazengwe28 4 жыл бұрын
Warriors still should. Or someone closer to Dwight Howard who can still be a inside presence besides just rebounding. They were at their best when they had rebounder like Javale McGee and David West off of the bench. They sacrificed all of that for DeMarcus Cousins. Looney gets dominated by bigger forwards n centers. The Festus Ezili, Maurise Speights, Varajao n Bogut quad was crucial to the 73 wins.
@felaralte1031
@felaralte1031 4 жыл бұрын
But the warriors need green playmaking..Steph and Klay play a lot off ball and green is the perfect fit for that
@visons2611
@visons2611 4 жыл бұрын
Rebounding still and always will have a spot in the nba, a player who can only rebound however.
@iceeeyy3557
@iceeeyy3557 4 жыл бұрын
Agree
@v.a.productions_9829
@v.a.productions_9829 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@bepe4279
@bepe4279 4 жыл бұрын
Approved comment
@starwarsnewsandmemes8289
@starwarsnewsandmemes8289 4 жыл бұрын
The combination of rebounding and passing is under rated. Its also pretty unusual since rebounders are usually big men and the best passers are generally guards.
@blocblackboyblack9226
@blocblackboyblack9226 4 жыл бұрын
Star Wars News and Memes what about Russell Westbrook
@42069117
@42069117 4 жыл бұрын
Another reason why rebounding isnt as important anymore is because most team's philosophy has changed regarding transition defense. Teams used to crash the boards on offense more and now, they prioritize getting back on defense, leading to most rebounds being uncontested. This makes it so a good rebounding player cant impact his team as much because hes mostly just getting rebounds that someone else on his team would easily get instead of winning a rebounding duel to prevent second chance points.
@spectraphantom9374
@spectraphantom9374 4 жыл бұрын
Russian Hacker the big man is just going extinct i guess
@mazengwe28
@mazengwe28 4 жыл бұрын
Everybody says that till the next team starts killing guys with rebounds and inside game. Most teams' weaknesses are that exactly. You just have to have the right combination. Organizations are focusing on things they aren't even good at doing. That is why there is so much lousy basketball being watched. This shakeup was supposed to make teams play to the strengths of their individuals. Now everyone's just shooting more to the point where whoever is hot that night wins.
@mazengwe28
@mazengwe28 4 жыл бұрын
Same shit happens in football when they say it's a passing league, then teams that have a good run game end up at the top. It's all about balance. It always has been and will continue to be that way.
@Youngster543210
@Youngster543210 3 жыл бұрын
@@mazengwe28 Yeah the simple explanation is the same explanation for why true point gaurds have never been super successful. Too predictable.
@devvv4616
@devvv4616 3 жыл бұрын
@@mazengwe28 some teams can certainly try, but i don't think relying on offensive rebounding tradeoff with transition defense is gonna be effective in the long run. it's not like it's that much easier to get offensive rebounds nowadays. teams are still boxing out
@nathaniel311
@nathaniel311 4 жыл бұрын
Dennis Rodman was 6’7 and averaged 13.1 rebounds for his career with a high of 16.0 in a season and seven consecutive rebounding titles holy shit
@ichigo449
@ichigo449 4 жыл бұрын
Look at Wilt or Russell's rebounding numbers. Fucking insane
@juju-vl7oj
@juju-vl7oj 4 жыл бұрын
@@ichigo449 the field goal percentages of the 60s are the lowest along with the pace of play being the fastest so there were more missed shots and the most rebounds to be had. Still impressive, but 60s numbers are inflated.
@yopawpaw7408
@yopawpaw7408 4 жыл бұрын
ichigo449 different time. Not disrespecting them but no body could really shoot and they were getting a lot of their own rebounds and putting it up and were bigger than everyone else
@nathaniel311
@nathaniel311 4 жыл бұрын
BaconOrButter Dennis Rodman was super sized to be playing at PF even for today’s standards in the 90s they would run basically two centers at the four and fiv
@ichigo449
@ichigo449 4 жыл бұрын
@@yopawpaw7408 Definitely. It's similar to looking at dead ball era baseball pitching stats.
@563gh6
@563gh6 4 жыл бұрын
I personally believe that team rebounding has become more important than individual rebounding. I still really like the video and your channel.
@greylepoard
@greylepoard 4 жыл бұрын
same thing with team defense. rotations, switching, closing gaps, help etc is much more important than blocks and steals nowadays. Blocks and steals don't really tell you much about how good a player is defensively, and 1v1 defense is not always the best
@simple45679
@simple45679 4 жыл бұрын
@@greylepoard 1v1 defense is crucial vs. great scorers like Lebron KD Kawhi etc. especially in the playoffs where certain players need to take over the game
@greylepoard
@greylepoard 4 жыл бұрын
@@simple45679 That's practically the opposite of how it actually goes. Look at the Raptors vs Bucks last year and how they defended Giannis. How did they slow him down? Team defense. They consistently walled him out of the paint and kept driving lanes narrow to try and force him into difficult passes or bad shots. You will not stop LeBron or Kawhi or KD or Steph with one player. It's just not going to happen. The Spurs had entire defensive schemes for LeBron since 2007. He will abuse matchups and force switches onto your weakest defender if you try and play him like that. Curry is impossible to leave to just one assignment because of his off-ball movement and gravity. On-ball defense is important, but not as much these days. And it's not a good indicator of overall defensive production.
@simple45679
@simple45679 4 жыл бұрын
@@greylepoard Those defensive schemes worked because the Offensive player in question (Lebron/Giannis) were being slowed down by the man defender (Kawhi). Team defense is important, of course, but they can't set the wall up if Lebron blows by his man in an instant. And in 2007, there wasn't a super specific defensive scheme. It was just "take away the driving lane and dare Lebron to shoot".
@mazengwe28
@mazengwe28 4 жыл бұрын
You are not looking at the right defensive stats. How you can tell how good an individual or team's defense is in their %of shots that are contested. It's the _main_ metic that is proof defenses are not playing as well as even 2-3 seasons ago. League average used to be in the high 65-67% range. And the good teams like Boston, Philly Warriors (2017), Spurs & Jazz were in the 72-74% range. This past season teams are barely cracking 58% shots contested.
@Crunchy_Troll
@Crunchy_Troll 4 жыл бұрын
Rusty gonna turn into a football channel after all these football references
@oldmcdonald7553
@oldmcdonald7553 4 жыл бұрын
The more content the better lol
@thie9781
@thie9781 4 жыл бұрын
He could make the same Videos about Football, i.e. why a Running Back isn't that important anymore
@tyronebiggumsthethird3807
@tyronebiggumsthethird3807 4 жыл бұрын
@@thie9781 * the 49ers have entered the chat*
@mikerivera373
@mikerivera373 4 жыл бұрын
Thie97 eh, it’s not that running backs aren’t important, it’s that you can find a good enough running back for cheap, and the players usually have only a short timespan to be productive
@showtimesportsmedia6906
@showtimesportsmedia6906 4 жыл бұрын
He should. Just study up, do research and he can be just as good if not better than these national media idiots.
@spacerace1448
@spacerace1448 4 жыл бұрын
Yes rebounding matters, but padding your rebounds usually hurts the team. A special case against this is russel westbrook starting a fast break and initiating the offense. Also standing in the paint and going for boards kills both your offense and defense
@spacerace1448
@spacerace1448 4 жыл бұрын
That is ofc if you do get that rebound because like rusty said, the rebounds are only getting longer
@renelwhitton6931
@renelwhitton6931 4 жыл бұрын
That's probably because Russell is a good passer and Drummond isn't.
@spacerace1448
@spacerace1448 4 жыл бұрын
@@renelwhitton6931 eh he's becoming an okay passer
@picafavo3466
@picafavo3466 4 жыл бұрын
SpaceRace144 why does everyone on this channel bully westbrook
@VVVY777
@VVVY777 4 жыл бұрын
Westbrook isn't an exception. An outlet pass is faster than Westboob camping for the rebound. He wants stats tho. Garbage player that will never win anything. Stephon Marbury 2.0.
@lucamultazzu4543
@lucamultazzu4543 4 жыл бұрын
In today’s game a SF or guard averaging 8-9 rebounds a game is much more valuable than a center averaging 15, there was a great article about Luka and his rebounding on the ringer a while back
@MichaelCorleone_
@MichaelCorleone_ 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always said, Rebounding is an overrated individual stat, however it’s an underrated team stat if that makes any sense.
@elizahamilton2895
@elizahamilton2895 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@bigsoulja73
@bigsoulja73 4 жыл бұрын
“How’s that for a short intro” Says Rusty,a minute and a half into the video.
@jakubkania6592
@jakubkania6592 4 жыл бұрын
he is quite self-aware lol
@qiushihu9443
@qiushihu9443 4 жыл бұрын
How could you have a bigger ego with less Kardashian? That doesn't make sense.
@ignaciovelosobahamondes2744
@ignaciovelosobahamondes2744 4 жыл бұрын
Quite a feat, isn't it?
@brendankane4186
@brendankane4186 4 жыл бұрын
You get into a rap music video(not a joke, look it up)
@TheCrogun
@TheCrogun 4 жыл бұрын
Tristian used to date Khloe Kardashian and has a child with her. Drummond never dated a Kardashian. Drummond literally has less Kardashian.
@yawuakhan8385
@yawuakhan8385 4 жыл бұрын
Comparing rebounding to field goals is a damn good comparison
@DaydreamerMusicv1
@DaydreamerMusicv1 3 жыл бұрын
i fee like comparing it to punting the ball is better, they both determine field position
@baklavaconsumer1080
@baklavaconsumer1080 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it does. Drummond was never a top 10 player though and the Pistons just weren't good enough to content for the title. Rebounding on it's own does not get wins, it needs to be combined with a team that knows how to use it. If he was on a better team his rebounding would be more valuable
@zacharysheffield4071
@zacharysheffield4071 4 жыл бұрын
The value of your rebounding ability depends on who your playing. In the WCF, the Rockets’ rebounding was key contributer to a 3-2 lead against the KD Warriors, while if you play a squad with elite team basketball like the Raptors, rebounding isn’t a key asset.
@loll4882
@loll4882 4 жыл бұрын
Zachary Sheffield I think rebounding can be one of the most important things on a team. If you have amazing offensive and defensive players. While along with that rebounding player being a solid defender, Rebounding could be necessary based off how the team is ran and the play style
@mazengwe28
@mazengwe28 4 жыл бұрын
Rockets have good offensive rebounding becsuse they shoot the ball so much and have a mediocre shooting%. Raptors were big on the defensive rebounding with their size. That is why Looney, KD & Cousins were needed. And then then previous two Championships, the Warriors had Javale McGee, David West, and Looney, especially in 17. Warriors had everything covered minus the scorers on the bench.
@Nickjo123
@Nickjo123 4 жыл бұрын
Great video man
@MoeDavinci
@MoeDavinci 4 жыл бұрын
Good Vid, interesting take on it. I believe as long as a team has the offensive firepower to efficiently score, you can definitely justify lackluster rebounding. That should be determined by the coach and gm though.
@splashnskillz37
@splashnskillz37 4 жыл бұрын
Well my believe you gotta be at top game in all aspects so
@mazengwe28
@mazengwe28 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Rebounding is always important, otherwise Warriors would win 70+ games easy each season. It's why they were so good 15-17. They had bodies that could get offensive rebounds to extend plays, then in the defensive end whenever teams try and out shoot the Warriors.
@mazengwe28
@mazengwe28 4 жыл бұрын
And yes, balance across the Stat sheet in ANY sport is what wins in the end. Every team is good and bad at something. It's about which areas are they the best at that bleed into other facets of the game because a lot of stats are intertwined.
@wreckit1261
@wreckit1261 4 жыл бұрын
Its a plus to be a good rebounding team but yeah, it's way less important than it used to be. It can make a difference like it can add more shots. Good take.
@3nim3nimabl3
@3nim3nimabl3 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think this video is what everybody has been thinking for a while
@razkable
@razkable 3 жыл бұрын
the whole shot clock resets to 14 rule instead of 24 2 years ago on a offensive rebound changed the importance of them a little bit..thats 10 whole seconds gone ..now teams realize its better to get back on honestly then go for every rebound
@steviecarnegie6066
@steviecarnegie6066 4 жыл бұрын
Quality, the kicker analogy was spot on.
@Minecraftgalaxy12345
@Minecraftgalaxy12345 4 жыл бұрын
You’re so blunt with your choice of words, that’s 💯
@CiCLoDoL
@CiCLoDoL 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad I subbed. Are you the only one on youtube who understands that it's much harder to defend nowadays? I mean it's really a nightmare to play defense when you have 5 guys spacing the floor. In the past it was like 6-7 dudes in the paint, and the whole offense was like two steps inside the 3pt line and throw a mid-range shot. That's it. Now there are hundreds of P&R variations, everyone can shoot the 3.
@vt248
@vt248 4 жыл бұрын
Yea it does, its securing a possession. Which is definitely important last i checked
@rjdriver88
@rjdriver88 4 жыл бұрын
VT 24 agreed. I think the argument should be whether the Center is valuable. Rebounds are often a deciding factor
@vt248
@vt248 4 жыл бұрын
@@rjdriver88 you're exactly right💯
@nanagotham1590
@nanagotham1590 4 жыл бұрын
@@rjdriver88 centers are very valuable for protecting the rim. More teams are prioritising threes and layups, and rim protectors it'll make it jobs more difficult.
@rjdriver88
@rjdriver88 4 жыл бұрын
Nana Gotham I disagree. You have guards like Kyrie who can finish at the rim no matter who’s there. Players are too skilled nowadays. Even Steph, who is know for hitting threes, is a great finisher. Floaters, wrong leg layups, etc. it’s not a Centers game anymore
@mazengwe28
@mazengwe28 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but put a good scoring center with those guys and see what happens. See what would happen if the Warriors added a solid center to their squad. They would destroy this league, especially since inside is their weakness. It's actually the weakness of most of these teams.
@randomrocketsfan3298
@randomrocketsfan3298 4 жыл бұрын
If Steven Adams played in the 90's he would have been an All Star simply because he is a great rebounder and post defender. Same with Enes Kanter, even though he's a very bad defender.
@kingcharlesi8170
@kingcharlesi8170 4 жыл бұрын
randomrocketsfan no, he would be more valuable but he wouldn’t be an all star. He would have to beat out Shaq, David Robinson, Hakeem, Dikembe, and Brad Daugherty
@kingcharlesi8170
@kingcharlesi8170 4 жыл бұрын
nKosi Ama Kosi thanks, I was trying to think up more names and I face palmed myself when I saw yours and realized I forgot Ewing and mourning
@NewGoldie
@NewGoldie 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao you're fuckin crazy. Rodman was widely better than him at both and only a two time allstar. He would be solid maybe but not at all an allstar.
@rayburks7059
@rayburks7059 4 жыл бұрын
90s was tons more physical and bigs grabbed 15+ a night ion even think Adams would get 10 in the 90s with everyone crashing him when the ball is shot
@vt248
@vt248 4 жыл бұрын
No way in THEE hell he'd be an All-Star in the 90s. He may be a benchwarmer. The 90s were full of physical punishing big men
@ShannonBarrett-dk6xb
@ShannonBarrett-dk6xb 3 жыл бұрын
coming from a football fan you made the perfect point with the kicker analogy
@LLawliet-tv9ig
@LLawliet-tv9ig 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Rebounding matters for different teams depending on their needs and of course matchups. If a team ranks at near bottom in rebounding, then they're not gonna be as successful against teams who HAVE the versatility to switch between small and big lineups.
@connorhearney5941
@connorhearney5941 4 жыл бұрын
as a warriors fan, i’ve seen with especially the rockets that offensive rebounding is important so long as it’s obtainable by those versatile players like tucker house hell even gerald green occasionally because he helps with momentum but u shouldn’t get a player because of rebounding it should be a perk
@nicford1486
@nicford1486 4 жыл бұрын
There’s hardly anyone working for offensive rebounds in the league anymore. Rebounding is not important when no one on the other team is fighting for them. Transition defense, the long rebounds, small ball, all factor in. This is why college is way more fun to watch for me Great video man.
@robertcovingtonstan6591
@robertcovingtonstan6591 4 жыл бұрын
Yeaaaaah Rusty get that money, you deserve it.
@thenotoriousmichaeljackson8938
@thenotoriousmichaeljackson8938 4 жыл бұрын
“Board Man gets paid” - Kawhi Leonard (2x Finals MVP & 2x DPOY)
@justaderrickrosestan
@justaderrickrosestan 4 жыл бұрын
Basically rebounding is this in between that is definitely beneficial to a team of a player can do that among other things on both ends, but if a player can only rebound they won’t offer much to any team.
@ImQuaddin
@ImQuaddin 4 жыл бұрын
The only basketball channel Im about to sub to! Just cause the casual format with swearing lmao and you realize your viewers have basketball knowledge. Cant listen to anyone else talk like theyre talking to kids..
@Nothing25568
@Nothing25568 4 жыл бұрын
Very fair points, agree with the video for the most part. But a big part of the Cavs championship was out rebounding the warriors. They had a good offense and defense, they did not necessarily have the edge there, the rebounding helped put them over the hump.
@justinmartin1831
@justinmartin1831 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with this. You need to have rebounding because it's an essential to the game. But a team doesn't need to be exceptional or even average at it to be a top team in the league. However the worst 3 point shooting teams aren't going anywhere because every good team is at least well above average at it. Basically it's just what is valued and utilized most to win and shows how the game has evolved.
@anthonynorman7545
@anthonynorman7545 4 жыл бұрын
On 2k, the top rebounding teams aren't definitely the winners. High fg % and 3pt made and ft % tend to correlate highly to win %
@RH_DB
@RH_DB 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Norman Na Buddy it’s always assists
@mikerivera373
@mikerivera373 4 жыл бұрын
Okay but look at who the best kickers have been. Justin Tucker, Stephen Gostkowski, Dan Bailey, Adam Vinatieri, etc. All of those players were on teams that were good outside of their special teams.
@anthonynorman7545
@anthonynorman7545 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikerivera373 I don't understand why you're commenting this as a reply to what I said. What's the connection?
@mikerivera373
@mikerivera373 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Norman oh shoot, I thought you were comparing rebounding with field goals in football. I didn’t read it carefully
@PostDeathPostDeathPostDeath
@PostDeathPostDeathPostDeath 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Rusty Great video! Could you make a video about Jonathan Isaac or the 70s Era?
@kiakhoshbin3173
@kiakhoshbin3173 4 жыл бұрын
i think the real thing is that shooting allows modern offenses to be much better, obviously, but also there have been rules that have made defense a lot worse which also contributes to why offenses are so much better now
@SuperBjjones
@SuperBjjones 4 жыл бұрын
It was a good football analogy to me Rusty 💯 made a lot of sense
@Metaphorically7
@Metaphorically7 2 жыл бұрын
Lol actually a pretty perfect football analogy Rust Bucket.
@showtimenick824
@showtimenick824 4 жыл бұрын
I think you do make interesting points. The football analogy though, yes you are right that it's more ideal to have a an elite defense along with a stable offense at worst but better to have a franchise quarterback with an offensive line to protect him and give the running back enough holes to run through with receivers to throw to and a good running game, but special teams do matter a lot. They can win or lose games sometimes. It did for the Packers in the Super Bowl the only time Brett Favre ever won a Super Bowl. I do see where you were going with that though.
@khandneter463
@khandneter463 3 жыл бұрын
I think rebounding big man is very important but it depends on what your team does with the rebounding is what's important. Now if Drummond gets you 15-20 rebounds, the team have the potential to score 40-45 points plus extra if a foul occurs. Now this is off one player alone. Great video.
@ethomas6385
@ethomas6385 4 жыл бұрын
You analogy was perfect
@Drogon7102
@Drogon7102 4 жыл бұрын
The football metaphor was pretty damn good.
@RJ-ox3gi
@RJ-ox3gi 4 жыл бұрын
That was a nice analogy
@theshawshankinception1220
@theshawshankinception1220 3 жыл бұрын
That was a great analogy.
@Tronty786
@Tronty786 4 жыл бұрын
Every rebound gives you a new possession against your opponent so it will always be a big part of basketball. However, offensive rebounds recently lost importance because the clock is reset to 14 and not 24 anymore Rebound lost it's overpowered importance but still is very important. A defensive possession ends with a rebound
@ryanflakus7672
@ryanflakus7672 4 жыл бұрын
The special teams comparison is perfect
@mrsmiley707
@mrsmiley707 4 жыл бұрын
Really like the football analogies in the vid
@za5528
@za5528 4 жыл бұрын
A while back someone checked the tapes of how Drummond gets so many offensive rebounds and found out part of it is that he's not great finishing at the rim so a bunch of those are rebounds off his own misses which inflates the number compared to someone like Giannis who finishes every time
@apuckingfanda709
@apuckingfanda709 2 жыл бұрын
Coming to this after the 2020 and 2021 finals, it most certainly matters and helps winning
@Jasonwilliams21
@Jasonwilliams21 4 жыл бұрын
love this topic. context matters huge when you talk about rebounds. a free throw line miss defensive rebround isnt and should be considered as valuable as for instance chris bosh's offensive rebound and kick to ray allen for 3 in game 6 of the finals. a rebound where all your teammates box their guys out and you get so you can get a triple double or pad individual stats should not elevate your status all time. if a dude gets 10 rebounds in a game without a single box out we need to pump the breaks on using rebound numbers as a metric to put them ahead of other all time greats. even offensive rebounds should be looked at in context some happen off of a guy missing his own shot. out of context you could say well he hustled and got his own rebound how could that ever be bad but sometimes the ball just hits off the rim weird and goes to a guy that wasnt fighting for the rebound. my point is we as fans should not just pick up a box score and look at a 10 rebound game and assume all rebounds had an impact on the game
@superbiaant
@superbiaant 4 жыл бұрын
jason williams True
@finnmckay5846
@finnmckay5846 4 жыл бұрын
🥳 love the short intro
@Superman30970
@Superman30970 4 жыл бұрын
God damn Rusty is grinding these videos out he takes 0 breaks
@s.c0044
@s.c0044 3 жыл бұрын
I know team rebounding is miles better than personal rebound per game just like asists but still is valuable having a decent one, the 2020 Rockets were a big example.
@jessemarkopoulos6116
@jessemarkopoulos6116 4 жыл бұрын
When stating where teams ranked in the league in rebounding, I wonder if you used raw rebounding stats (rebounds per game), or if you used rebounding rate. Because this can vary depending on the teams pace. Just because a team doesn’t get a lot of rebounds a game doesn’t mean they’re a bad rebounding team. A better stat would be whether or not they out rebounded their opponent. I went back and looked at the finals rebounding stats. And more often than not the team with more rebounds won. However the difference between the winning and losing teams wasn’t huge. Ultimately a very well presented video
@oj397
@oj397 4 жыл бұрын
Rusty is Pure Raw Real feelings with common sense behind it. This is why the man is beloved.
@ejbvides4625
@ejbvides4625 4 жыл бұрын
The thing about rebounding and centers as whole is that the 1990's defensive center doesn't impact the game like it use to...i rather have a big man that could shoot 3's, assist then rebound. Rather then block and rebound
@jeremyhealy3169
@jeremyhealy3169 3 жыл бұрын
Hand checking banned made it much harder to guard a perimeter player. Back then the defender can put his hand and at least feel which way the guard is going thus the defenders were more in the face of the potential 3 pt shooter.
@jack_9362
@jack_9362 4 жыл бұрын
Great video
@mazengwe28
@mazengwe28 4 жыл бұрын
I forgot to mention another reason why rebounding is still essential, the mid range area. If a team had good rebounding, they would be wide open for a midrange shot. There no need for an extra dribble to get closer or to kick it out.
@onedone2011
@onedone2011 4 жыл бұрын
Love your content. As a pure point guard with a game patterned after John Stockton, I love it all extra. Challenging that old head orthodoxy !!! 🙏🏀🙏
@robbratcher4675
@robbratcher4675 Жыл бұрын
Changing the orthodoxy is not a good thing. All young, inexperienced people want to do is break the old... without ever realizing how great it was because your ass wasn't there..
@najirban
@najirban 4 жыл бұрын
Boards are critical from a team perspective. Everyone has to be decent at everything while also having specific talents and skills.
@EverythingHappens4AReason
@EverythingHappens4AReason 4 жыл бұрын
that Pistons kicker analogy was spot on 😂
@larger932
@larger932 3 жыл бұрын
Rusty seem like a chill guy
@youngsimbazeki9984
@youngsimbazeki9984 4 жыл бұрын
Football reference was 🔥🔥🔥
@Robbieknowsball
@Robbieknowsball 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for Shouting out Tua!
@jacopolagana9166
@jacopolagana9166 4 жыл бұрын
If you think about that, if you miss a lot of shots you have more chances to take a rebound (offensive reb.) so if you are bad at scoring rebounds could go up. And if your defense don't work for a steal, but concede shots (like the bucks that concede mid range shots) you will have more defensive rebound chances. Team rebounding reflects what the team decide to do both ends. The important thing is allow few offensive rebounds and be efficient at scoring. If you do that you shouldnt be worried about off rebounds or even the gross number of def reb cause maybe you are just forcing turnovers and that's even better
@randomdude503
@randomdude503 4 жыл бұрын
Slip it in my Rusty
@jebus160
@jebus160 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@badflashback9354
@badflashback9354 4 жыл бұрын
That’s so hot I wanna kiss him
@stevenneal9440
@stevenneal9440 4 жыл бұрын
Ha this guy 😂
@sonnyking1218
@sonnyking1218 4 жыл бұрын
It still matters but I refer to rebounding as a whole both offensively and defensively. Scouts still put an emphasis on the vertical of a player and its not just because of dunks.
@jacobpuryer7205
@jacobpuryer7205 4 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with your opinion, but appreciate the insight and research that went into making this video. Also really enjoy your MyGM series man, keep up the good work
@DP_1605
@DP_1605 4 жыл бұрын
I'm someone who likes to actually compare what certain eras do better and value more compared to others. Rather than just saying it's easier to score now (likely true) but won't acknowledge how it's harder to defend
@rustybuckets
@rustybuckets 4 жыл бұрын
but I also acknowledged that later on lol
@DP_1605
@DP_1605 4 жыл бұрын
Rusty Buckets And I agree I was referring to those who don't take the factors you mentioned into account when doing comparisons
@everythingin2544
@everythingin2544 4 жыл бұрын
One of the factor is more rebounding numbers can be meaning more shots allowed too.
@anthonyspeta2181
@anthonyspeta2181 3 жыл бұрын
I mean technically defensive rebounding is a part of defense and offensive rebounding is a part of offense. It just so happens that an offensive skill and a defensive skill are the same skills so that's weird. But yeah, offensive rebounding is fading away. The 14 second reset really turned the knife. The issue is that long shots miss more but don't fall near the rim, whereas shots in the paint stay around the rim but don't miss all that much. So you kind of have to pressure the offensive boards just so the other team can't just run in transition right away, but beyond that it's kind of dead.
@jacobtaylor508
@jacobtaylor508 4 жыл бұрын
It’s more about rebounding percentages than actual team rebounding numbers. I saw a stat that said the Lakers are a middle of the road in total team rebounds a game, but top 5 in rebounding percentage. So, they don’t grab a whole lot of rebounds as a whole, but they grab a high percentage of their defensive rebounds, which prevents the other team from gaining second chance points. So, total rebounds and how many more rebounds you can grab in a game don’t mean shit, however if you grab a higher percentage of another teams misses your chances of winning increases exponentially. That’s the flaw in today’s game when it comes to rebounding
@manny5310
@manny5310 3 жыл бұрын
@Rustybuckets I love how honest you can be about your materiel. You have very entertaining and informative content #newsub
@tmac731
@tmac731 4 жыл бұрын
8:00 in still hurt from that missed field goal
@sportsguy1997
@sportsguy1997 3 жыл бұрын
To be more specific individual rebounding numbers don’t matter anymore. Team rebounding is more pertinent but you need to look at other defensive statistics because rebounding is just one sign that you stopped the offense. Other signs like turnovers and steals are signs of stopping the offense. So you can be a poor rebounding team (like the Rockets) and can still succeed on defense if your steals and turnovers are good (like the Rockets). Because again rebounds, steals, and forcing turnovers are the same difference...which is stopping the offense.
@jk-qt1mz
@jk-qt1mz 4 жыл бұрын
rebound is very important if your teammates can shoot and can run for fast break.
@sydneystroud4397
@sydneystroud4397 4 жыл бұрын
Know you aren't a football channel, but that was a good analogy.
@TheQuestionsssssssss
@TheQuestionsssssssss 4 жыл бұрын
That was a good football reference
@tobinmoffatt3075
@tobinmoffatt3075 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Taylor/Thinking Basketball did this a couple months back.
@ianosaurus27
@ianosaurus27 4 жыл бұрын
In a deciding Game 7 of a series where the players are already fatigued & banged up shooting will fail and effort will overcome skill
@Kidkinsey
@Kidkinsey 4 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody said it I hate the back in the days they played real defense take, like so they were just fouling and playing jail ball, u can argue it takes more skill to play D today since handles offense and schemes have improved
@paulwallpd
@paulwallpd 4 жыл бұрын
The football comp of rebounding being like special teams is great honestly. I so agree. And yeah, I don't think rebounding matters too much. I do think Drummond is more than a rebounder tho--he was on some horrible spacing pistons team. He seems to add a little something to his game every year, and now that he's on the cavs, I've gotten to watch him in the regular season more and he does a little bit of everything, and I think makes the Cavs better. If he can learn how to shoot 3s he'll age well in the league
@MrSlashblade
@MrSlashblade 4 жыл бұрын
“If the best thing your team has going for it is a kicker that’s not the ideal situation to be in” A Life long raven fan when Tucker was our best player would like to talk with you. I kid I kid Tucker wasn’t as important as Suggs.
@brendankane4186
@brendankane4186 4 жыл бұрын
Rebounds matter, you need to be able to grab the ball, but you don't need a Drummond averaging 13+ rebounds. All you need is 7-10 players averaging 5-8 rebounds each.
@lecetti7016
@lecetti7016 4 жыл бұрын
i think rusty got that benjiman button he’s gotten younger every video
@jackhayes6903
@jackhayes6903 4 жыл бұрын
Also in NBA less offensive players crash especially in the regular season
@DarkKnightofHeaven
@DarkKnightofHeaven 4 жыл бұрын
Rebounding is more a team effort now than leaving one guy to do the heavy lifting on rebounding. The skill itself is vital, the inability to collect rebounds and get the ball back leads to 2nd and 3rd and up chances to score which just isn't going to fly or work. basketball is a generalists sport. The guy whose to 10 in all categories is going to be a far better play than the guy whose #1 in one category but bad in most other categories. A specialist is a backup to fill a team weakness and should not ever start. While being #1 can make up for a weakness in one aspect of the game, its not going to make up for 3 or 4 weaknesses.
@adriancawaing622
@adriancawaing622 4 жыл бұрын
A video about the Nba in the early 2000s would be great
@kylecodling9796
@kylecodling9796 4 жыл бұрын
Damn just when I thought rebounding would bring the Cs over the top lmao
@griffongaming4474
@griffongaming4474 4 жыл бұрын
The nba probably won't drill in the idea of rebounding but yes it is still important, a perfect example is like comparing the Houston Rockets that lost the conference finals a few years back to the 96 Bulls in the nba finals, both struggled mightily to hit their shots(although Houston was just one game not the whole series) but the Bulls had something Houston didn't and still doesn't and that is a rebounder(obviously Rodman was more than that but still) Now maybe the players who need to learn proper rebounding fundamentals have changed to guards and wings but offensive rebounds are still extremely critical
@danielclark6912
@danielclark6912 4 жыл бұрын
Rebounds matter but the kind of rebounds have changed. Close shots mean closer rebounds. Lots of threes means lots of long rebounds. So there's a lower % of rebounds close to the basket
@splashnskillz37
@splashnskillz37 4 жыл бұрын
Well... time for another evolution in the Center position In time the Center position will be most all around developted position of the game I just hope we'll still get to see 7 footers playing
@jordanfrench4321
@jordanfrench4321 4 жыл бұрын
Just wondering when the next hawks mygm video will be up
@rustybuckets
@rustybuckets 4 жыл бұрын
tomorrow or Thursday
@joco6799
@joco6799 3 жыл бұрын
Rebounding is the most important part of basketball. If you know you know.
@TheGoldeagle99
@TheGoldeagle99 4 жыл бұрын
@Rusty Buckets You should do a video on how many minutes per game Wilt Chamberlain would average in today's game as well as rebounds per game. Also how many blocks per game do you think Wilt averaged when he played?
@alexmckenzie2969
@alexmckenzie2969 4 жыл бұрын
hmm, this is an interesting point. Can kind of be tied into Rodman's role with the Bulls. Having a great rebounder is almost just like a plus, not something that can be your main focus
@andrewlange7820
@andrewlange7820 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Mckenzie I think that Rodman is the perfect example of this. His crazy drive for rebounds and defense are a perfect skill set to be a championship level support player.
@padfoot2294
@padfoot2294 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a good metaphor
@nathangames9532
@nathangames9532 4 жыл бұрын
You can’t say how’s that for a short intro when your a minute and a half in lol 😂
@yanco2669
@yanco2669 2 жыл бұрын
Bro I’m surprised this man doesn’t have his own espn segment yet
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