Does Regearing 3rd Generation Toyota Tacoma Affect Towing??

[@Thenoonechannel]

I got a 21 SR5 towing a 22' campion weighing around 4k lbs, was nervous but this was reassuring. Thanks for this!!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Glad it helped!

[@bigjohn8339]

I’ve got my 19 SR5 going to be towing my 21’ deck boat this weekend. Looks like I’m worrying for nothing about pulling it out of the water. My boat is around 3600lbs

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@bigjohn8339 yeah you should be good!

[@static2430]

2016 TRD off road 6MT here (still stock gearing). I had a 3200 lb pop up camper and apart from squatting a bit, the truck still accelerated up hill. I've towed campers, boats, towed a 4 door jeep out of the mountains, pulled a civic and 1500 ram out of the snow, loaded the bed with dirt, and many other truck things. I absolutely love this truck, but my problem has always been that reverse is too fast for maneuvering a trailer very easily. Maybe re gearing to the 4.88 will help? I don't plan on running bigger tires or anything and probably won't lift it more than an inch or two.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I'm not sure how the regear would affect reverse, but I would assume it could do something for it. I haven't noticed a difference in reverse on mine even though it's an auto. But that would be a better gearing ratio if you don't go with larger tires.

[@jerrymiller5022]

2017 dcsb trd offroad with ome 2" medium duty lift and added leaf springs, firestone airbags in rear, throttle response controller, 265/70/16 10ply bf ko2s, no regear, no tune, redarc brake controller and I tow a 5500lb 25ft bumper pull camper with weight distribution hitch and sway control, as well as a 4200lb 2020 tracker targa v18 combo aluminum boat, I Just use ect and stay in s4 and try to stay at 65 on flat stretches and 55-60 thru slight hills and pulls just fine

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I mean it'll pull fine without the regear, but I had a ton of people asking the difference with the regear, which is why I made this video. It's definitely a good bit of weight for the truck, but it can do it.

[@Bruuuce]

I towed a full uhaul trailer with a Kia Forte on it from NC to Missouri took 13 hours but the truck did a great job and that was my SR5

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Oh wow! That's definitely a heavy trailer load, but glad it did well!

[@Lexusgx550]

I towed my brother boat. It was easy no issues. All my truck is stock. Good morning to the brothers. 🥳 nice boat

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Nice 👍It can definitely tow, I just wouldn't go on long trips as often.

[@bigbowey21]

What boat? And size?

[@erinlowery1589]

I have a 1985 fourwinn boat and im completely new to boats and trucks. I wouldn't be pulling the boat often, just a few times during boat season and I would love a tacoma. Would this be an okay choice for a woman to pull a boat with?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Anyone can tow anything with any type of vehicle. Should be a little lighter than this boat so shouldn’t be a problem.

[@nbsmedia1401]

I have a 2019 Off Road with Manual transmission. I tow all the time for my business. Just towed a 50 foot lift threw Boston. Tacoma is all I need. Love the truck.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Wow that's a big boat! Glad to hear it's getting the job done!

[@North8078]

For towing do you think auto would be a bit better or manual way to go

[@gregoverley5349]

I tow a 23’ Bennington pontoon with a 200hp motor (5000 lbs) with my ‘17 TRD Sport. It’s a dog. I only use it to tow it short distances but use a Silverado or an F150 to tow longer distances (way better for towing). Agree that it’s exhausting to hear/feel the truck strain on a long trip.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yea exactly! I've used 2500 diesels and it's crazy to see how that weight is nothing for them! But the truck does well for short trips for sure!

[@kenr4137]

Did you have any issues launching/recovering with the Taco? Thinking about upgrading to a 24-24 offshore boat in the 5k range

[@gregoverley5349]

kenneth ryder I don’t have any issues launching or recovering. Is only when I’m pulling it some distance.

[@eliasbeas3556]

Did you notice any howl/whine sounds after you regeared? I just got 4.88 installed on mine and I love the response of the truck with 33s. However I have a sound coming from the rear when I let off the gas pedal

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I still have them on the truck and it’s been several thousand miles with no whine sounds. I have heard that can happen, but not sure what would cause it!

[@JmShows]

I don’t tow a lot of a heavy things with my Tacoma (just a few atvs) but it does a great job at doing it.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah it’s not bad even with this weight!

[@briantaylor676]

Thanks for the video. I ordered the Nitro 5.29 gears last week and this is helping me feel at ease with towing a 3500lb travel trailer which was one of the biggest reason for regearing my truck.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That weight shouldn't been too bad at all! I've done that with the stock truck and it's ok, but nice to see it could be improved some for sure!

[@623JAYR]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed hey brotha looking to tow my mini excavator 6500lbs ... You think regearing alone is gunna work?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@623JAYR Does that include the trailer weight? That's pushing it even for just regearing, I don't think that would help with exceeding the towing limit, this boat is about 5k with trailer and you can feel it.

[@NanceLvr]

@@623JAYR i tow about 6.500 travel trailer with 33’s no issues. Improvement with re gear was mainly uphill power. I have other mods including tune so I can say before regear the tune did alot of the work to improve towing capacity. If you have a good brake controller dont worry about the weight. Add some sumo springs and you are good.

[@christopherryzowicz]

It’s normally a good idea not to tow in overdrive anyway. If the torque converter keeps locking and unlocking, that could cause excessive heat and break down your transmission fluid faster.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That's interesting, I usually let the truck do it's thing when towing!

[@techsocial626]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed The user manual actually instructs you to tow in S5, not that it would help with the gear hunting that the stock 3.91 will influence.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@techsocial626 I’ve never had any issues towing in normal mode with either of my tacomas.

[@Toyot3r]

Im curious if the trans fluid temps are higher or lower with the lower gears

[@benbutlerfishing]

I'm looking at a 3rd gen lifted like yours. I tow a 3400 lb bass boat all over multiple hrs one way. How would it do going 70mph and gas mileage is another question when running 70mph towing my boat. Also the terrain isn't mountains it's like your generic interstate terrain type and rolling hills basically

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

3400 pounds isn’t too bad for the Tacoma, it’s definitely a comfortable load. However going 70 mph with that, mpg won’t be good. I don’t tow long distance, but I have been using a 1500 utility trailer lately and I have averaged 12-14 with it.

[@freedomtaco19]

I have a 2019 SR5 4 banger, all stock. And im wanting to tow a 16' Poontoon boat about 4500 pounds. I live in Minnesota, so would be short trips to a lake. is it possible to tow that??

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

From what I’ve seen, max towing for the 4 cylinder is 3500 pounds, so based on that, I wouldn’t tow 4500, a V6 Tacoma could handle that.

[@freedomtaco19]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed Thank you, some ppl say I can. Some say I can't. So confused

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@freedomtaco19 not sure why people would say that’s ok. Thats 1K pounds over, you can try, but I wouldn’t recommend that.

[@freedomtaco19]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed ya not looking to ruin my truck over it. That's why I was looking up some of y'all's videos. To see if y'all did towing with a boat. Thank you for the info, and love the truck! Been giving me ideas since I just bought mine 😊

[@Rickwynne]

Did you guys do a video on the gears with daily driving? Can’t seem to find it

[@Rickwynne]

I found it! Sorry haha

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I think I talked about it in this video…but it’s so much smoother especially on the highway! Way less shifting on hills too. So it’s a lot better! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXvQaGavhN-Wla8

[@ShawnCNC]

Great video, I am in the process of looking for a wake boat and I have a 2019 Trd Sport. Is your Moomba a 21' or 23'? Im trying to see if upsizing to a 23' boat is going to push it too close to the edge. I know various models of boats weigh different but I wanted to confirm. Thank you!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Very nice! This is 22.5 ft long plus the swim platform, but it's close to 4k pounds, a 23' won't be too much heavier so the truck could definitely still tow it, I would recommend a bit beefier suspension for the rear or at least an add-a-leaf to keep the back from sagging with the weight, mine levels out pretty good with the boat!

[@tommye77]

I bought a boat and about 2600 total weight package and still feel my Tacoma kind of struggles up slopes and gets awful MPGs. Hit 10-12 at 65. Feel like it’s a lighter boat for it to be struggling. However, I did take off stock wheels and put on TRD alloys with 265/70/17.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I don’t tow the boat very far but you can feel it for sure! Even an empty 2K utility trailer I have drains the gas. Can’t feel that as much but it works for those lighter loads!

[@mriphone1000]

I definitely will look forward to better low end torque. The tacoma needs it in my opinion. Especially when pulling on hills and slopes. It does bog down.

[@soniaponce4788]

I tow often , double seadoos in summer and our utv in winter. Its sluggish so I am wondering if regearing will be good

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That's odd it would feel sluggish with seadoo's, they weight about 800 pounds a piece plus a trailer. That should be perfectly fine for it considering the tow rating, but I'm not sure how significant the regear felt with towing, mainly just helped it from shifting constantly.

[@soniaponce4788]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed For how many times we take it far to the river its ok. I got to to have fun off road and that it is. I am concerned about the added weight of the after market bumper, winch and bigger tires 285/75/16. I am getting a Prinsu roof rack next week as well. So thats what really had me thinking regear. I will continue to try and learn as much as I can about it

[@Nics574]

@@soniaponce4788 it’s an engine that’s designed to be high in the rev range. It’s not the 4.0 or a v8 with low end torque. It’s a Lexus engine with a few things done to tame it down. Put your foot into it and it’ll be fine

[@Rimfalm]

Great video guys, I wonder how the manual transmission would do with the boat

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I'm sure it'd do just as good. Might be a bit sluggish getting into 2nd gear tho since it's not the quickest gear change and the Tacoma doesnt have much low end power

[@kenr4137]

I have a Tacoma and it hauls my 20 bay boat fine, thinking about upgraded to a center console in the same weight class as yours. Taco is my only truck but all the ramps are within 20-30 miles of flat Florida terrain. Would you send it?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That shouldn't be a problem at all going that distance, especially on flat roads!

[@garretthenson1594]

Have you used your ect pwr button I tow a 22 ft cuddy cabin boat stock tacoma it does well I would like to regear only drive 15 min to the boat ramp

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I have tried it before, but honestly I don't see why it's there. It doesn't seem to make much of a difference other then hold the rpm a little higher sometimes. A 15 minute drive, I wouldn't bother with a regear, unless you do more towing or lots of highway driving.

[@garretthenson1594]

I'd like to take my boat to the mississippi river it's a 45 min drive that be the reason I'd do it my boat is almost to big for the rock river it averages 6 ft deep some spots 15ft but it limits me to were I can go how much would this cost to have professionally installed

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@garretthenson1594 I've heard between $1k-$1500 to have done. Check around first to get a better idea before you buy. Not sure if you watched the video I made doing it at home, but if you can get the diffs out and bring them, that would help save on shop labor.

[@garretthenson1594]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed thanks I'll call around

[@xl6589]

After regear do you tow in d the whole time now? I’m about to 5.29 regear my taco and I also tow a boat but I only tow in s4 but not sure if I still need to tow in s4 after regear

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I’ve always towed in D! In the 40K miles I’ve put on this truck, I’ve only used “S” maybe twice. The truck doesn’t hunt gears as much but depending on the weight, it might shift more than usual because of that. With just the truck it drives so smooth.

[@jessehenry3751]

Hey fellas I've got a question for you. I have heard that once you do the regear you must flash the cpu or your truck will be limited to 80 mph.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Nope.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHWlaYNjf5yWg6s I made a video on that since that's what everyone told me. ;) You could maybe tune it a bit to keep it higher. not too sure

[@cade7458]

I have a stock 2020 trd off-road and I’m picking up a 4,500 pound 2019 Malibu wakesetter tomorrow. Hopefully this works😂 any advice?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Just take it easy, the truck can handle the weight, but you will definitely feel it!! If you plan on towing it a lot, I would recommend some add-a-leafs so the truck can stay level while towing. You can try using the "ECT" button but that keeps the truck in a higher rpm in a gear, which helps with not shifting as much. But it shouldn't be too bad.

[@gregkerr3994]

Supposed to switch over to manuel ECT button engage higher RPMs shifts like it's supposed to

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Honestly I don't really see a difference with that button, it does hold rpm's higher, but I don't really see a benefit.

[@tyrsafray4640]

This was a great video. Bought my Off Road long bed 2021 to tow a boat I built by hand, probably just under 4K with trailer and boat... think I’ll tow it with stock tires and gears before deciding.. you went with 5.29’s?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That's cool you built a boat! I'm sure that was a fun project! I've towed this boat with the stock tires and gears, not very far though, just in the city. But it did fine, with the 5.29's, it seemed like it held the gears a little better, but I still just go around in the city, so like 20 minutes if that. You should be fine though, the trucks can tow up to 6500 pounds! Suspension might be something to check out if the truck is leaning in the back a lot. I have add a leafs in the rear which help keep the truck level when towing!

[@bryantitus6634]

I tow a 23'8" camper that weighs about 4700ish when all the tanks are full. I won't disclose the tongue weight but just know it's more than I'm supposed to have. I've actually yet to tow it with stock size tires. I had 265/75R16 falken wildpeaks on it, but went back to stock height for this next set. I had a noticeable decrease in fuel mileage unladen with the 1" taller tires and I feel the larger size hindered towing performance on a truck already known for being moderately underwhelming as a tow vehicle. That being said if you stay within proper tongue weight ranges and are pulling something with a lower profile like a boat or small dump trailer it will do just fine without a regear. I tow a 14' Jon boat all summer with mine, albeit I'm in the 1,000 lb range with it, and it is as if it's not even there. I do believe that it's happy place towing wise is basically what you plan to tow with it.

[@erikp5481]

Thanks for making this video. Very good before and after examples. I'm seriously considering the upgrade to 5.29s (and getting 33's). I have a taco (stock wheels and gears) and a boat of similar size. Towed it for 2 hours on mostly flat interstate highways got about 13.5mpg, it was not fun at all. It was really cool to see the positive effects it had on towing. I would have liked to see y'all pulling the boat out of the water with the 5.29's and hearing what that was like. Great video, thanks again.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It really didn't seem to different pulling it out of the water, maybe I didn't have to use as much throttle to do it, but the real difference is out on the roads! A 2 hour trip would still be a good ways, but mostly flat is helpful definitely!

[@LandonWilson88]

I wanted to say thanks for Most of your tacoma videos (including this video) up to this point. I didnt watch all of them because i wasnt interested in some of the lesser mods. I was interested in particular the videos regarding suspension, tires, gearing and any videos talking about said mods. They have been helpful to me because i was interested in doing all of those mods to my new tacoma on order. So thank you for making those mod videos and your impression videos.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I’m glad you enjoyed those videos and found them helpful!! We started a new website and are slowly adding parts to it if are interested in them! Hopefully will keep adding parts!

[@matthewsharp1226]

Do you have the ECT button and did you use it and was there a difference with it

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I have that button, I've never really seen a difference with using it. I'm going to do more research on it and see what else I can find on what it exactly does.

[@Nics574]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed pushes shift points further into the rpm range and locks the converter sooner=cooler trans temps

[@justinpierard2439]

How were the brakes when towing?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Pretty good! I did upgrade to slotted and drilled rotors though and they were fine!

[@gregktm]

Don't you use the ECT button? It's for towing and or loads.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

The ECT button is for towing, I don't think I said it wasn't. It just holds the gear in a higher rpm so it doesn't shift as much, but honestly, I never saw any use with it, didn't seem to help much at all and I never use it.

[@360cooldog]

Is this at Lake Norman in NC? That looks like the dock right down the road from where I put in at. Small world🤟 I use a Jeep Grand Cherokee to pull my boat, lifted and using a pedal commander, (thanks to some influence from your channel) considering regearing mine as well, thanks for the video!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Very nice! I actually just got a wrangler, so we'll see if I have to regear that at some point!

[@jacksonvang2946]

Do you have to press the ECT button for only towing?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

You can push it whenever really! All it's supposed to do is hold the RPM in a higher range so that way it won't upshift as soon to help with the extra weight, but you can use it without towing as well. I don't use it because I can't see or feel it doing anything.

[@jacksonvang2946]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed thx

[@robertconde4064]

how is it on the ramp when it comes to dropping off the boat?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Normal! You mean backing in? I can't really feel much of a difference in the slow speed, mainly just once up to speed and getting up to speed.

[@jerryfernandez8881]

When you did your break in period how did you break in the front...do you drive in 4x4 high for 500 miles

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Technically the gears should still be spinning since the cv axles are rotating, they just aren't getting any power from the front driveshaft. But I have messed with 4 low and making sure everything works. When I go offroad I'll go in out from 2wd to just be sure.

[@jerryfernandez8881]

Bros FOURR Speed I’m getting mine done , couldn’t fine anyone mention anything on how it was done...thanks for the info ..Keep up the informative videos 👍

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@jerryfernandez8881 I'm glad you mentioned that though, I haven't said anything in videos, I just assumed they would rotate too.

[@randomhandbmx]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed they actually don’t. There is a 4wd actuator so unless you actually are in 4wd the front gears don’t spin.

[@Jacob._.W5789]

I tow my rzr around (about 4500 lbs gross) and I got a set of towing bags. what a world of a difference for $300. Mine stays between 3rd and 5th on the highway at 70. Stock gearing. Don’t even let it touch 6th gear. Still get 12 mpg tho which is nice!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

What are towing bags? To keep the rear from sagging? That wouldn’t affect the gearing in any way.

[@Jacob._.W5789]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed They are firestone branded and replace your bump stops with air bags. Setup is kinda like a semi truck. You can air them up from 10 to 100 psi and it helps to level the truck and makes them ride quality very good when towing. Def need the 5.29s!

[@fabianfazzari7261]

What size tires and lift do you have to regear to 5.29?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Well if you watched the video. The lift and tires are not the reason I regeard it. The stock Tacoma with the automatic transmission has the same gearing as the 2nd gen tacoma with the 5 speed auto. They did not change the gears when putting in a new transmission. So these new gears make it so the truck actually uses 6th gear now. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHWlaYNjf5yWg6s Heres a better vid on that. But.. 4inlift and currently have 34s

[@techsocial626]

Overall, I think the 5.29 regear with oversized tires does improve the initial acceleration and allows the truck to utilize 5th and 6th gear. However, it still will produce the same stock characteristics of downshifting into 4th and even screaming into 3rd to maintain 60mph with a modest weighted trailer (2500 lbs from my experience). MPG’s might be slightly better during towing compared to stock but nothing to rave about either. The regear mostly benefits oversized tires IMO.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I’ve found it to be very helpful especially on the highway and actually uses 6th which is awesome! I agree some with the towing, it doesn’t help a whole lot for that and it’s not really supposed to or said that it will help with towing. Unless Toyota upgrades the transmission on the next gen, a regear is a good idea for the 3rd gen!

[@SWiSH_mike]

Hows the pedal commander?? Are you still using it??

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I still have and use it! I still like it, it gives the truck that extra throttle response that I've gotten use to. I like it better for sure!

[@perception-reception]

2009 taco 4cy 5 speed will not get my searay 190 signature up the ramp. Will not do it. Have to use my f250

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Oh wow! That's not really a heavy boat either, I'm surprised! My 07 tacoma V6 could tow fine, but obviously the 4 cylinder is much smaller. Not really meant for towing as much.

[@perception-reception]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed yea it does fine on the road. Obviously I know it's there and surge brakes help with stopping but it's steep ramps in mid TN where I'm at and truck is only 2wd.. if it had 4wd It could do it im sure as the one time I needed a little help up didn't take much from a fellow boater in his half ton.

[@SWiSH_mike]

What gas octane do you use??

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

87, I've tried 89 and premium once, didn't see any differences for the extra price.

[@Based_Knight27]

Nice video thank you for the information, keep it up!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Thanks, will do! Glad you enjoyed the video! Cool showing the gearing. They definitely help out on the highway and the truck finally uses 6th gear

[@robertyoung8289]

Time for a supercharger! Be great for the channel!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Maybe one day! That would be a sweet install to do!

[@trevorblagg8749]

Superchargers only really do anything in the higher rpm I’d prefer a turbocharger

[@huntersmith9770]

Trevor Blagg other way around bud

[@franz7671]

Did you do a ecu tune with the regear

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I did not. Didn’t seem necessary, but some people like that.

[@timothyparrucci809]

I tow a LOT with my 98 Tacoma. All stock, pulls like a dream

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Nice! What kind of trailers do you haul?

[@timothyparrucci809]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed typically a 5x10 utility trailer, usually weighs anywhere from 2000 - 4000 pounds depending on what I have in it I've also used it to move an ~8000 pound trailer (trailer + cargo) around an old coworker's yard, but that really hardly qualifies since it wasn't actual road driving or anything faster than 5mph basically. It frequently tugs around 3/4 tonne trucks during the winter, since those heavy trucks just sink right into the snow, mine will float right over the top

[@lukemorrison5580]

Y’all should make some content with the boat

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

We've done that a few times, but maybe we can come up with some more ideas!

[@jimshepard2302]

I tow with my stock gen 2 tacoma often, great comparison guys!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Thanks! 👍 It's great for lighter weight hauling!

[@timfrancis6774]

what about a uhaul trailer 6x 12 it will be loaded with about 3000 lbs of house hold stuff, not heavy things like w/d, refers, that sort of thing. all stock.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I actually towing that exact size uhaul when I first got the truck, did great with what we put in it! Went about 2 hours on the highway!

[@timfrancis6774]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed sweet cause my cousins widow asked me to help her move, so it will be hills no highways well getting there highways but hills rest of way

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@timfrancis6774 It shouldn't be too bad, I was going about 50-55 on the highway fine, but you'll feel that weight, shouldn't be too bad hopefully.

[@darriontunstall3708]

Great video!!! I wonder if I could tow my wheelchair on the back

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yes you can!

[@darriontunstall3708]

Bros FOURR Speed ok I’m saving up for my nikola badger electric pickup truck, it’s great for people with disabilities like me

[@timfrancis6774]

@@darriontunstall3708 i have a disability i drive a tacoma, all be it smaller than the bros. but still can fit all i need in it which is space for forearm crutches and tools in case they break

[@darriontunstall3708]

Tim Francis ok cool, do you have cerebral palsy if you don’t mind me asking?

[@timfrancis6774]

@@darriontunstall3708 a little yes, but also have a brain disease. and my truck is all stock(access cab) didnt need the other cab even though would have been nice but mine is a great color and suits me well.

[@SimplyCarReviews]

No hunting from my Tacoma... But it's a Manual 😁. Reverse up a hill is a different story though as it has a tall reverse ⚙ gear. I mitigated the issue by adding 2WD LO and no longer have any issues.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

The manuals are cool to see, but this regear definitely helps with the auto!

[@davidnilles3117]

Absolutely love your Moomba! I’m a lake rat with a 1970 Century inboard.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Very cool! I basically grew up going to the lake, so much fun!

[@zachphillips7051]

My mom n sister works at the place that makes the moomba boats n there supra boats

[@Geishauser]

I tow a 24 ft sea ray with my 2019 Sport a few times a year over central pa mountains. Tacoma does it well. Def wouldn’t do anything heavier. I’m not regeared and it’s similar to your experience.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yea that's a good size boat! Slightly larger than ours, but it can handle it for those few times!

[@reynaldocuba5941]

friend knows who installs the nitro ger in miami florida

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Are you asking about shops in Florida that do this? I'm not familiar with that area at all!

[@matthewbennett6896]

What did u regear your truck to

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I went with the 5.29's. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJWTkqStd5eBodE

[@michaeljkasnter]

If Magnuson would get things worked out!!! I SC my 2016-4Runner TRD-Pro !! Its been flawless!!! Still waiting to SC my 2016-Tacoma !!!!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Very cool!! I haven't heard anything from that company, they unveiled it earlier this year, but maybe with everything going on, it's been delaying it.

[@matthewkay2769]

I want a small block v8 in the tacoma. Stock from the factory.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

You'll have to do an engine swap lol, I don't have any complaints with the V6 though.

[@jorgeluismartinez9955]

What was your mpg when towing the boat ?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

haha I have no clue! But probably in the low teens

[@AldapesExpress]

I wish y’all put it on cruise control

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I don't like using cruise while towing, it drops gears and revs so high that it makes it worse I feel. I hardly ever use cruise because of that.

[@itr0863]

would you say, as a rule of thumb, to stay at least 1,000 pounds away from the max towing capacity of a vehicle?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That's probably good just to feel comfortable with it, you could go to the max towing for shorter trips, but I wouldn't go crazy heavy for long distances.

[@lorenzoronpedrique2952]

Please try the Shift Sense Pro (175usd) and give us your review. It supposed to change the points in the automatic gearbox. Cheers!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I'm pretty sure that's very similar to the pedal commander I already have! Here's two videos on that if you want to check that out! kzbin.info/www/bejne/laTEo42DhdGso68 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nna4mJmqlpaghrs

[@lorenzoronpedrique2952]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed no, it has nothing to do with the throttle. The Shift Sense Pro use the S mode on the automatic gearbox to run a custom program that change the shifting points of the gearbox. Sounds very interesting.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@lorenzoronpedrique2952 Hmm, interesting, I'll take a look and see. My regear has definitely helped with that so not sure how that would help with the stock gears.

[@canalesivany]

Be honest you think regear was a big improvement?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yes I do, I love how it doesn't hunt for gears and it makes it smoother to drive. Even though it'll go from 6th to 5th, that feels normal compared to 5th to 4th, it was just getting so high in the rpm range. It didn't help with mpg much, but I did the larger gears for bigger tires, so once I upgrade my tires maybe there will be a different change with that, but so far I'm happy with it!

[@canalesivany]

Thanks!

[@blackobsidian7905]

Great work for tacoma Wow 👌

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Thank you so much 😀

[@gilbertoesquivel9668]

So bottom line, it seems like you should only really tow with a 3rd gen tacoma in a pinch, unless you like the annoying noises of a struggling motor and handing out fat stacks of cash to gas stations?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It can tow fine with the right weight lol, I wouldn't want to tow this boat on the highway often or on long trips, but around town it's fine. It's not meant for towing a lot, but can be used when you need it.

[@JasonWh]

That drone is brutal... can't hear you well at all. Consider pulling that Hz out of the video in post. Use the 'performance' button when towing per the manual. If you shift to the performance map by hitting that ECT power button you'll be set. I've got a 2020 TRD Pro and it helps me a great deal keeping it from shifting. Also, look at a Pedal Commander. that helped much more than I thought.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It's louder than my previous exhaust, but not much drone to be honest. What is Hz?....also I haven't found the ECT button to do anything, I've seen it hold a shift longer, but that's about it. I also do have the pedal commander already in this video.

[@cjzx325]

Great video! Didnt know yall had a boat too! That looks like Lake Wylie.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

We don't do many videos with it, but it's fun!

[@toku58]

I bet you guys have an aftermarket intake. That's why your truck has that really annoying drone. Get rid of it!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

The intake does make it much louder under hard acceleration for sure lol...the exhaust setup I have is much louder than my previous one and that ads to the drone, plus the truck is in very high rpm's with the weight of the boat!

[@toku58]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed it’s not very hard to remove the aftermarket intake and reinstall the stock intake and see. My money is on the intake. Unless you removed your muffler?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@toku58 I don’t tow that often so it doesn’t bother me! And I didn’t remove the muffler, it’s just loud being held at the higher rpm. Normal driving without a trailer it’s very quiet!

[@4runner510]

Which is why the manual is better

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I prefer trucks to be auto's and save the manual for sports cars, but this did a great job at helping it!

[@julianonyekwere]

Affect*

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I changed it, I even looked it up lol

[@JasonWh]

6th gear is a 'double overdrive' gear and you wouldn't likely notice a shift between 5-6 other than watching the tach.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It's not as noticeable as 4-5 shifts which is nice.

[@SC_XOLOs]

All I want to tow is two jetskies.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That shouldn't be an issue at all. But the 5.29 gears have been a great upgrade. Still very happy with them

[@tbone4781]

Take your bimini down when towing. Those tend to grab wind.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

While that is true on some bimini tops, they are rated for up to 45 mph which I didn't even go! So it was fine for this test!

[@kirkhiggins3044]

OK. So where’s the follow up? Come on guys. Help a brother out.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Follow up with? Did you ask us a question we missed?

[@kirkhiggins3044]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed Ummmm. How’s it tow with the regraring?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@kirkhiggins3044 That's this video, I filmed the before and after in one video!

[@kirkhiggins3044]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed Apparently I got impatient before I finished watching. My bad. Oops

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@kirkhiggins3044 It's all good. I can see a difference with it as far as shifting gears, but I don't think it's crazy significant to really tell. If that makes sense.

[@abnervaldezestrada3167]

Hi

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

hi

[@nhungly-o6h]

Moomba 4800 dry weight, Trailer 800 and gears, you are at the limit of the truck.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Truck can tow 6500, so no, it’s not the limit.

[@bm3turbo10]

Why don't just get a tundra? The amount of money in upgrades will get tundra bros

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I don't need a full-size truck, and this is all I really need to tow. It's great for the trails I go offroading on too!

[@rodoguerrero7282]

The 2023 Nissan Frontier Pro 4 X Tows Waaaay More better I just got rid of my Tacoma

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I don’t have any complaints with how this tows.