3rd Gen Toyota Tacoma Nitro 5.29 Gears | First Impressions!

[@planbenterprise]

Went to 5.29 in my third gen. Hand to god, my MPG went up. No gear hunting, smoother, quieter, and peppy when needed. Worth it.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I didn't have any changes in MPG, but the rest of what you said! Worth it for that aspect!

[@jfox11000]

How much does it cost total ??? Heard it’s $10,000.00 ?

[@nickbruderly6414]

​@jfox11000 no no not anywhere near, the gears themselves are like $1,600 and then the install by a shop is like an extra $1,200 I believe

[@planbenterprise]

@@nickbruderly6414 Yes, I got some other work done at the same time, I want to say the gear job cost around 3K? It was the best and most cost effective performance upgrade ive ever done in a vehicle. Better than a SC, better than spending the same amount on air intake and headers and exhaust. A lot of the other (all) mods are only noticeable improvements at high RPM’s. Gears improve every single drive, every single day. AND massively improves high end performance too. Towing is a breeze now. My gut tells me all other components are under less stress and id expect the rest of the drive train to last longer. Gears are my first go-to mod from now on. (Especially the transmission. CONSTANT gear hunting on the highway CANNOT be good for the tranny.)

[@lucascoxe1481]

@@nickbruderly6414i got the OTT tune and have way less gear hunting issues. Do you still think its worth it to get these gears?

[@jkreuzer]

Great channel, Brotha. I've been running 5.29 with 33s on my 2020 Pro for years, and it is far & away the most pleasurable ride I've ever owned. Sport mode (toggle shifting) is the only way I've shifted the truck from Day One. So fun. Keep up the great video content!

[@ALWAYSPDG]

My Tacoma is almost 3 years old too but with only 9k miles. I got pre-assembled front and rear 529 axles from ECGS. I also had them install an ARB air locker in my front axle. They ship you ready to go diff's and you just swap them out. I love my 529's!!! The truck tows much better everywhere, city and highway. The truck just feels like it drives better by increasing rpm's across all 6 gears, I have an auto btw. The truck is just more responsive, everywhere you drive it. If you are thinking about it but not sure, just do it! And go with the 529's, especially if you have added weight and/or taller tires. I have about 6 months on my new gears and have never looked back! IMHO, it should be one of your first mods to your Tacoma.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That's awesome to hear you love it! With only 400 miles on mine or so, I wish I did it sooner! Can't wait to tow and see those results!

[@andrewshakespeare4978]

Lol 9k is it a collectors truck?!

[@jameshoward3071]

ALWAYSPDG what did you mean a pre assembled kit from ECGS because I don’t see the preassembled . And did you order the preload spacer .

[@ALWAYSPDG]

@@andrewshakespeare4978 I also ride a motorcycle 2 work so it cuts down on the miles on my truck plus I get 2 work much faster, I don't have 2 deal with traffic.

[@ALWAYSPDG]

@@jameshoward3071 ECGS offers pre assembled diffs with whatever gearing u want already installed. Plus you can add locking diiffs and the upgraded bushing 2. U remove your diffs and ship them back 2 ECGS as a core exchange. They set the ring gear 2 pinion back lash and make sure u r good 2 go. U just unbolt your diffs and install the newly geared/upgraded diffs and then do your 500 mile break in.

[@jcola9234]

I'm in a stock 2018 TRD off road, when driving in a place with a lot of hills I just run with the ECT on even with no trailer. ECT will lockout 6th gear which helps with gear hunting a lot. Not only are the shift points higher but since the truck will be cruising in 5th gear your rpms are already a bit higher and the truck is ready to take on the next hill possibly without shifting into 4th.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That really just helps the truck hold a gear longer if you are towing, I haven't seen any benefits from that, but maybe there was an update for the 2018.

[@chriskell4854]

I have the same truck, and even with ECT on while not towing, it gear hunts a LOT. The vehicle seems to heavily prefer 4th gear.

[@pog4life89]

I enjoy your channel. I purchased my bumper because of your channel, and now I'm really looking at nitro gears because of your channel. Keep the good content coming!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Awesome! Glad they are helping you!

[@yotaman492]

Waiting on my regeared diffs for a '19 4runner, went with 4.88 and will be running 285/75R17s. Can't wait Regearing is an absolute must with bigger tires & damn near a must for that 3rd Gen Taco. Traded one in on the 4runner & i hates the gear hunting.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

How is the 4runner compared to the Tacoma? My dad has a 4runner and I wish I could have re-geared for him, but he's closing in on 100k miles and probably will get rid of it soon.

[@yotaman492]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed Got the call that the diffs are supposed to ship tomorrow, rear springs should also ship this week. Then hope to get everything installed next week.

[@lawsonkennamer6554]

My past two 3rd gen tacomas have been manual its 100% the way to go

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I've been in a few manual 3rd gen Tacomas so far and honestly don't like them! I'm a big manual person and have a manual R8, but in the Tacoma, it's just not the same! It's much slower and I feel like the truck can't get up to speed and you really have to punch it! First gear seems to only go like 15/20mph if that, but I'm glad Toyota still offers that! If I had an offroad specific rig, I'd buy a manual Tacoma though!

[@southbay1279]

Two years later, how is it running?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Perfect!! Absolutely love how it’s been driving!

[@southbay1279]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed That’s awesome! Thank you for the quick reply man! I’m doing my research now on the 3rd gen Tacomas and was curious what people’s experience was with re-gearing the truck. I appreciate you sharing your experience with me. Cheers!

[@joereyna614]

New to the channel... currently viewing all tacoma vids as it's my 1st. 2020 TRD Offroad pks, has the ironman 4x4 lift with 17" method 703s on 33 KO2.. so looking to regear it as I plan on putting some aftermarket bumpers and steps

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Very cool! Thanks for checking out the channel! I have a whole Tacoma playlist with all the mods I've done! Would recommend regearing for sure! It is really only going to help with the gear shifting, so it makes it way smoother while driving! That's really all I've seen, but I love how it drives compared to stock!

[@heyitstoast8693]

I have a 2016 Tacoma with 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 lift, camper shell and also adding a whole front bumper. I already purchased my 5.29s and will be installed in a couple months. What’s happening with me is that when I talk to people (mostly people outside of the Tacoma world) about regearing, they say I shouldn’t do it at all, or if anything 4.88. It seems like they say the exact opposite of what I hear from nitro gear , or people with tacos. They tell me I’ll waste more gas, it will be horrible on the freeway, it’s only for rock crawlers and it’ll revv to high. I’m wondering why there’s such a huge controversy. Maybe because they don’t know how bad the stock gear is ?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Sounds like the people who don't own a Tacoma don't know what it's like lol, I have heard mixed reviews on them, but if you don't own one, you can't really say good or bad. Honestly after putting probably 3k miles on this now, I love it. It drives so much better, not necessarily in the city, although it doesn't shift as much which is nice. But the highway is completely different, it used 6th gear! It'll stay in 5th/6th now instead of 4th/5th, and the rpm's barely jump over 3k, depending on the hill it will, but it doesn't scream over 4k like it use to. I have seem a slight increase in mpg, but nothing crazy. I would do it again just for the highway driving for sure. I went with the 5.29 for larger tires at some point, and some of the weight I have, no issues so far! I can't see a big difference off the pavement, but on road oh yeah!

[@heyitstoast8693]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed before I ever knew about gearing and I got the truck I was like man this thing feels like I’m forcing it to go up hill and it was screamin all over the place. I hate it so much. I’ll be getting mine done in December!!

[@benice858]

@@heyitstoast8693 regearing is a really touchy subject because a lot of people do not know what they are talking about within the realm... (neither do I)... but basically, mechanical engineers that have a degree and years of experience that get paid 300k a year complete math equations write reports develop and review into a conference with others before even thinking about changing a part. this is before and they finetune all of the individual gears within the vehicle to bring the most profit to the company... if the mass majority of people who buy tacomas never off road and never use it for towing, nor get a lift kit, add weight or anything, then they will only accommodate what makes them the most money. All in all, regearing is one of the most mathematically controversial parts in vehicles and there are people online who have their own little math equations to find you the right gears. The best way in my opinion to find the best gear is to find proof that Mpg AND rpm went up after regearing, the reason is that if mpg and rpm goes up, then the ratio in which the gear was installed was all around infact better. the controversy after that is to determine whether you want more torque or MPG but evidence shows that Tacomas factory gears being 3.91 and 4.3 are definitely not good compared to this nitro 5.29 gear .

[@heyitstoast8693]

@@benice858 thank you for your response !!!

[@LearningFast]

That should give you more torque as well. Does 1st gear feel stronger now?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It's really hard to tell, maybe offroad I'll notice a difference with 1st.

[@flacktastic21]

You'll definitely notice a difference when off-roading! I'd say that's the biggest difference and benefit to the 5.29! I have a 2020 manual Tacoma with nitro 5.29. 😁

[@NorthEastDirt]

Rough country makes a speedometer recalibration unit. $140 shipped. Just installed mine today and it dead on to gps. Just a heads up if your looking.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Oh cool, at some point I'm sure I'll have to get that!

[@princeodinson3239]

Thanks for showing the rpm... u can see how mildly it shifted on the last hill...

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

No problem 👍. I wish I had a stock clip to show, but I love how mild it is now!

[@princeodinson3239]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed yeh thats what i was asking about in the last video

[@tacticool2222]

How does it tow a trailer around 3500 lbs with the 5.29’s?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I made a video about that! kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3KsnYqvbd93q68 Our boat is around 4500 pounds. It didn't really change anything, maybe it helped hold the gear better but I couldn't really tell a difference.

[@LPFE42]

Hows the mpg now?

[@roberttaylor2616]

I the four cylinder w 5 speed manual, it has been way overgeared since day one, the only times I have seen 5th gear is down hill with a tailwind. And third gear is used 90 percent of the time between 40 and 70 mph. The four banger has plenty of power but it is awful with 3.91

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That's interesting to hear! Did you buy it new or did it get new gears you don't know about!? I've never heard that before for that tacoma!

[@roberttaylor2616]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed it was underpowered from day one, I baught it new, it was not a big problem, just a nuisance that I could live with. Now I need to pull a trailer and I would probably burn up the clutch with much use. I am currently changing to 5.29s as we speak and I am sure it will greatly improve the drive ability of the truck

[@stevehoover1657]

Hey guys, Love the channel! 2018 Taco: I also had the shifting "thing" on the highway. I took a different route. I used OV Tuners to tune the engine and transmission. I'd love to compare MPG notes if you are willing to share. I'm sure the re-gearing is better especially for larger tires. My tires are slightly above stock (31's). The tune made a pretty good difference in power and a huge difference in the shifting and MPG. I'm hitting 21-22 MPG @ 60 MPH originally that would have been about 18 -19 MPG. Hitting 17-18 @ 75 MPH; 15-16 originally.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Right now I haven't put enough miles on I think for the mpg to reset, last I looked it was at 17 after doing highway driving, but I want to give it a few tanks to see how it does because I was usually around 18.5 for the most part. 21-22 is what I was getting on stock tires though.

[@T4CO1776]

In my 2016 2.7L manual 5th is useless almost at highway speeds other than cruising. Passing takes time.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

With the smaller engine that makes sense!

[@SWiSH_mike]

Love ur vids man keep it up!! Just got mines, taco trd pro super white!! I love u blue though!!!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Good choice! Have fun with it! It's such a great truck!!

[@SWiSH_mike]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed have u made videos about its reliability? Especially v6 vs the 4 cylinder?

[@bri10boy75]

So if I have a 6 speed manual 3rd gen I dont have to regear if I run 35s

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

You don't necessarily need too. I didn't have to with the 34's I'm running now. But in the auto, it definitely helps highway driving and keeping the truck in 6th. I didn't really notice a difference power wise with the extra weight from the tires, even offroading it's hard to tell.

[@kungfumtb310]

What’s your mpg with 33’s. And 5.29 gesrs

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It hasn’t changed, average around 18. Regearing doesn’t effect mpg at all.

[@mariodiaz3897]

What do you think about 2020 with 2.7 auto rwd I’m planning on doin 32 or 33 tires on 16 probably 2 inch lift should I go with 4.88 or 5.29

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Hmm. If it's the same transmission and rear end, I'm sure the 5.29 would give you the same daily drivability that I have. I don't know much of how the 4.88 will respond

[@joejeans7913]

would there be any benefits to regear a stock TRD PRO automatic ? Im serious thinking about getting the Nitro 5:29 gears

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

From what I have heard, the 4.88's are probably better for the stock tires if you don't plan on going bigger at all and it makes a big difference on road. I did the 5.29's for the larger tires and I do want to go anther size up. I'm sure they would be fine with the stock tires, but I don't have any experience with that setup!

[@joejeans7913]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed Thanks Im going to reach out to them (NITRO GEARS) Monday. I just looked up where they are, and its only 100 miles west of me in WA. so it will work out . Hopefully they can do the install too!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@joejeans7913 Oh nice! They can do it, it was going to be a 2400 mile trip one way for me, so I did it in the garage!

[@isolatedpilot2303]

@@joejeans7913 did you end up getting the Mod? I'm thinking about regearing the pro for towing 4k trailer loaded, I already towed this trailer for 1500 miles and even though it did work I feel the engine was struggling on uphills

[@joejeans7913]

@@isolatedpilot2303 I did I went with the 4:88 HUGE improvement. The engine has plenty of power you could not tell because of the gearing is all wrong. I feel like I got 100 extra HP. gas mileage is same maybe a tad Bit better. I really dont know why Toyota doesn't do this stock. Be prepared to pay around $4500 for both axles, they sell you their gear oil and break in change etc. make sure you get your old gears back, I sold my set to a wrecking yard got $200 back for them also I just wish Id went with the 5:29 now want bigger tires and wheels now. call talk to James at Nitro gears.

[@emorse912]

I've had no issues with higher gears in my 2017 TRD OR 4x4... I've never understood these discussions. I lived in Denver for 3 years, no issues, and 2 years in the southeast where it's flat. 🤷‍♂️

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

The third gens don’t utilize 6th gear! I didn’t realize that for like a year in this truck lol…my truck shifted a lot out of 6th and after the regear I can cruise in 6th on the highway all day! If you still own the truck, listen to what gear you make it too and see! Maybe yours is fine, but it’s a known issue for this generation!

[@emorse912]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed yeah no issues. Cruise the interstates at 80mph+ in 6th gear with rpms below 1300. 🤷‍♂️ each tank of gas is about 23mpg with 32" tires.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@emorse912 Double check you are actually in 6th, I never saw 23 even with stock tires so that’s impressive.

[@emorse912]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed don't know what to tell you... maybe don't accelerate like a fanboy in a civic lol. I baby that truck so it will last forever.

[@keithjohnson5148]

I was planning on 4.88 with 35” tires but now Seeing this I’m going 5.29

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I haven't had any complaints with going to the 5.29's, I have 34's now and still running smooth and really helps on the highway!

[@mannyvilla-goz1979]

Does anyone know why I'm getting worse mpgs in my 2016 Tacoma after regearing to 5.29s? I'm runnings 33s. I'm getting 14 mpgs now and was getting 15.5 on stock

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I get 15.5 mpg with my 34's and the regear. The regear isn't intended to help or improve mpg at all. It helps with the gearing and improves the smoothness along with helping turn larger tires. I thought it would help with mpg, but it doesn't. Also my stock tacoma got around 22, so not sure why your number is so low.

[@xanderfloats]

Is 5.29 gears the best option for my 3rd gen Tacoma with 35’s? I live in Houston, TX there is no mountains… we only have flat roads

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

You could probably be fine with 4.88's. But if you are going through all that work, mine as well do the 5.29's. Even on flat roads it makes a difference! brosfourrspeed.com/parts-%26-merchandise/ols/products/875-nitro-gear-package---3rd-gen-tacoma

[@darriontunstall3708]

Great video man! I love your Tacoma!! 😎

[@andrewshakespeare4978]

Man thanks so much for posting this. Have a 2018 dcor and the gear hunting drives me nuts!! The cruise control is so bad and sometimes even dangerous how fast it shifts into 4th. I'm sold! Have lots of weight so will go with the same as you. Cheers!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Glad that could help you out! It is so much smoother on the highway I love it!

[@foote1967]

Nice...you beat me to the re gearing! Definitely will be going 5.29s..

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Nice! You'll love it!

[@willswift3611]

Can you put 5.29 gears in a stock truck? Thinking this might be my first mod before a lift and 33s.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

You can, I'm not sure how that will perform, but if you are doing the lift/tires soon after that it should be fine. I'm pretty sure the Nitro guys did that on their stock tacoma, it could've been the 4.28's, but either way it can be done.

[@kennybrackin]

Nitro did 4.88 and have a video on here

[@TheDailySlured]

Here's the recommendation I have cause I'm doing it now. First suspension, Kings with UCA, Leaf Pack, Bump Stops $6k installed, Then Wheels/Tires/Gears $4500 Installed. You can drive with a suspension but you can't drive with bigger wheels tires, without a lift or gears. It will suck.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@TheDailySlured That's an expensive budget man, all my parts on my truck are about the same total as the parts you mentioned. Kings are great, but way too expensive. I've had friends with 34s on stock gears, it's do able, I only see a difference with the regear on the highway, not so much around town.

[@SLFYSH]

Gears are important, but you noticed the problem of never using 6th, -AFTER you put on larger tires. Of course rpms and need for 6th went down.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It never went into 6th even with the stock tires, so that didn't change anything. I wish I had regeared with stock tires to see the difference, but I would recommend it even in the stock form.

[@SLFYSH]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed what rpm are you seeing at 80 versus stock, surely it shifted into 6th at 80, unless it just lacked the hp to maintain 80 in 6th. There were many references to 65-70, but nothing beyond, where most of my freeway time is. And how did you address the speedo under-stating speed with larger tires. Thsnks.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@SLFYSH I'm not sure, I don't go 80 lol, 65,70 is my max, and I haven't done the speed recalibration yet, but I'm only off by about 3 or 4 mph so it's not bad.

[@SLFYSH]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed Ok, Thanks. Where I live there are plenty of interstates, and 80 is the speed limit.

[@rickyromero3608]

Does he say what his mpg is?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I think I did, but with 34’s now, I average 15-17, it doesn’t really help with mpg, so I wouldn’t regear with that in mind, but it drives so much smoother! Big difference in that.

[@alv4475]

Not sure if Toyota fixed this issue with the 2020, but my 2020 trd sport automatic definitely doesn't have these gear searching issues. It still could really benefit from a regearing I think tho. It would help with the lazy off the line performance and keep the engine in its powerband more often as this engine seems to need revs.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I would hope the 20's have some kind of update to help fix it, how are your rpm's out on the highway?

[@Electricalwav]

Can confirm I just got a 2021 trd off-road and no gear hunting for me. Here in SoCal average Freeway speed is 75mpg and Im nowhere near 2k rpms. I am fully stock, so there's that hahaha

[@MarioMartinez-is1cg]

@@Electricalwav wait till you put bigger tires or a little bit of weight you’ll be hunting lol

[@user-zs1fr7im6l]

Nitro 5.29 Gears FOR SURE !

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Great setup!

[@Builttolastdenali]

Were you gears stamped “NG”?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Honestly I can't remember that, I didn't look at them close enough to remember that. Did you buy them from NG?

[@Builttolastdenali]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed yeah I did..the front 8.25’s have the NG stamp on the ring and pinion but the rear 9.76’s don’t..they have “101410-GM9.76-9X41” on them.

[@pininfarina575]

any impact on fuel economy? if the truck was running lower gears anyway because it needed more gear, 6th gear running at similar rpm going up a hill would be the same with just less gear hunting...

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It actually went down slightly because 6th gear is now at a higher rpm than 5th gear was. I didn't think about that beforehand. And yeah it could be similar, but the gear hunting is really what I wanted to fix and this helped tremendously.

[@offinthebarn6194]

I wana regear my 2017 Tacoma. Do I have to change the front differential gears or can I just regear the rear end?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

You should be able to do them separate,. I bought it as a kit, but you can just do the rear I'm sure!

[@TSloanorthologisticslab]

You gotta make sure the front and rear ratios are very close or it will damage your truck.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Is it 4wd or just 2wd?

[@offinthebarn6194]

Bros FOURR Speed it’s the 2017 TRD off-road 4x4. I know that seems like a dumb question lol but if I only have to change the rears then it’s much cheaper

[@offinthebarn6194]

T Sloan o okay. Thanks .

[@quixel1029]

Good vid! Quick question, I do have a bit of the gear hunting issue, but the main problem in my 2019 TRD Sport is it jerking when accelerating/decelerating. I’m really not sure what causes this, I’ve gotten OVTune and also recently got the latest TSB and my truck still jerks like crazy. Any ideas?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

The only jerkiness I feel is coming from almost a stop and giving it gas, sometimes it think's I gave it more than I did and you can feel it, but that's not too often. I'm not really sure what would cause that to be honest, I have the regear and the pedal commander and it's pretty smooth now.

[@Michael-pp8lz]

Nice. I might consider installing that one day if I ever add more weight and larger tires. I have a 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport with the automatic transmission and I actually do most of my driving in the S mode. I have around 8k miles and I don't recall ever hitting 6th gear while driving (I have like 100 highway miles)

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It's a weird feeling to have it in 6th gear, but it makes it more pleasant on the highway!

[@ScottB0107]

Same trim truck. Same style of driving. I use to drive a manual mustang and traded it in for the Tacoma. Wife doesn’t like driving manual so had to go automatic. I mainly drive in sport because it’s the closest thing to manual driving. 😢

[@martincortez4956]

The “S” is a gear selector mode its not a “M” manual mode. The difference is the “S” mode selects the max gear the transmission will shift to, this mode is usually used for towing uphill and downhill. Probably will mess up your transmission or not who knows

[@sworks7124]

Man the exhaust drone is horrible. Im taking my TRD Pro exhaust off getting the regular exhaust I hate the droning noise. I am getting the 5.29 with OV tune, thanks for the video. I watched another video where the mech at Nitro said 5.29 is best on the Gen3 because the engine needs the rpms to make power.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I actually don't have much drone with this system, it is loud for sure, but not bad even on the highway! That is true, the engines in the 3rd gens are great, it's the gearing that needs to be improved to make it more efficient! I probably watched that same video before doing this!

[@rogerhagler4340]

@BrosFourrSpeed is there a fix for the max 83 mph yet? I re-geared w/ 5.29 as well, love the difference. I rarely would drive faster than 83, but now I can't even if I wanted. They say you can drop to 5th and run 90. The computer thinks that since you're running 83 in 6th @ 2700 rpms you're actually going 104 and it governs the throttle.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

The only solution I know is going back to stock. I'm going to test out the top speed soon and see, but to me I don't go over 70 rarely because of the traffic and roads near me, but I'll try it.

[@rageagainstjgo420]

Any solution yet to your problem? I want to regear as well just don't want to be limited as is the 112 govoner is a bummer in my opinion

[@rogerhagler4340]

@@rageagainstjgo420 not that I'm aware of. If your speedometer reports correctly and you're running larger tires, the top end is actually better than 83mph.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@rageagainstjgo420 How often are you going over 100 for that to be a problem though? I tested it just for a video and it's about 93 on mine.

[@rageagainstjgo420]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed more often than you think..... but thanks for the heads up 🤙

[@trex3215]

Great video. I have 17 TRD sport Tacoma I am about to get my re gear done but how did you brake in the front gear?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

They should rotate when the wheels are turning even in 2wd, so I didn't do much, when I used 4wd I only did it for a little bit at a time, but they should be broken in when the rears are good, and I haven't had any issues!

[@Clanc54R]

So glad mine's a manual. It has 4.30 gearing btw

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Oh nice man! I'm sure that's pretty cool to own!

[@4runner510]

Love my manual 2018

[@Clanc54R]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed I've always loved manuals. I didn't even know about the quirks the automatics had while buying one. Glad I went with my gut on it.

[@Fakingittilimakeit]

Hows that better than 5.29? Lol

[@Clanc54R]

@@Fakingittilimakeit when did I say that? He said the manual has 4.18. I said it has 4.30

[@lorenzoronpedrique2952]

How do you feel the change in acceleration 0-60? Awesome mod.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I haven't really stepped on it just yet, I'll mention that in an upcoming video! As of now I don't see a change even with a slightly acceleration.

[@thomasstanley515]

I live in FL ( no hills) do you think it would still be worth it?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

If you drive on the highway a lot yes. It makes the gearing utilize the 6th gear in the transmission.

[@6191904life]

I heard after your re gear to 5.29 it didn't go past 82 miles an hour or so. Maybe you can do a test in the near future in a closed course.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I have seen a lot of comments on that, so I will have to see if there is a time I can test and show that for sure!

[@timsr.6706]

I have a 2016 Toyota Tacoma trd off/road, 285/75/16 Falken Mt's, automatic, I had 5.29's installed Yukon's in mine about a year ago, mine will not go over around 82-84, no matter what, going down long steep downhill's, whatever. Does not miss, or cut out, it's like you have it to the floor and that's it ???? We also have a stock one just like it, it will get up to 125 mph easy. Other than than that they are great, really doesn't matter, don't need to go that fast anyway !

[@timsr.6706]

@@DOOSHEAN I don't know, It's a 4 door, long bed, with a camper shell on it, 3" lift front and back. Not a big deal, just kind of curious why, installer said maybe i need to get the computer re-flashed. Thanks, I might go with 35's when I get new tires next year, think they will clear ok. I do think 5.29's were more for 35's than 32's, might make a big difference.

[@kevinm255]

I 100% agree with you... I'm seriously considering trading mine in on a new Ford Bronco...did you ever consider fixing this problem using the OVTUNE instead... I've hear the new version re-maps the shift pattern of the truck...for me I notice the gear hunt problem on surface streets a lot too when I need power and I have no gear under my pedal...oh yeah are you still using a Pedal Commander?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I didn't really look into the ovtune, but I love how it drives now, much smoother in the shifts and I do still have the pedal commander, I like how that is too, just having a little bit more throttle response!

[@rhonbriones2286]

What is your mpg before and after regearing? I am in the fence of getting 4.88 or 5.29 and i have RTT and 33’s. Thanks for the advice.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It honestly didn't change much! You aren't buying the regear to help with mpg like I thought, but the truck drives so much smoother and I do love that aspect to it! But with my 34's, I average around 15.5 which wasn't much different from the 33's!

[@ryantroy5614]

Before you did your gear ratio did you try to install a pedal commander and if so does that help with the gear ratio?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I've had the pedal commander for awhile, long before the regear! kzbin.info/www/bejne/laTEo42DhdGso68. The pedal commander doesn't help with gearing at all, it helps with the throttle control and the input it has, so gearing is a separate mod from that.

[@SimplyCarReviews]

Manual 3rd gen has 4.30 not 4.13 gears ⚙. No power loss noticed and if there is it is negligible at best. My Tacoma is lifted and had 285/75/16 ( 2019 OFFROAD). For comparison I also own a 2019 Pro manual and power delivery feels similar.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Oh gotcha

[@TacoBrad]

Mike, you should change the seatbelts to blue. I want to change mine to red but I'm scared to do it without a tutorial and nobody seems to have changed their seatbelts in a 3rd gen Tacoma. Basically I'd rather watch you struggle first before I struggle lol

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Haha I actually never thought about doing that, but maybe now!

[@MS-dp1po]

Glad I went with the manual transmission ! 4.30s are working out just fine for me 😁

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Nice 👍 This helps the auto a lot!

[@Dieiamgi]

Do you have bigger tires and or weight?

[@MS-dp1po]

@@Dieiamgi 33's , Rock sliders , Full steel skids . On King's w/ 700lb springs.

[@trentslay255]

With 265 75 16 my 6mt still turns 2250 or so at 65

[@bkretschmann90]

So what kind of rpms are you looking at at 70 mph with these gears? Did highway MPG increase at all now that its not screaming in 4th?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

The rpm is around 2200 at 70 mph, and the mpg wasn't really affected at all, plus I'm running 34's now so I average around 15-17.

[@2009reezen]

following, I have a 2018 that obviously has the same problem. I am all stock right now but wouldn't go past 33's. I have been locking 6th out and driving 5th only on the highway. that alone makes a big difference. did you look at the Yukon gears by chance before you selected the nitro? any thoughts on Yukon? I hear they also have a lifetime warranty. .

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I haven't even heard of that brand for gears so I don't have info on those. It drives so much smoother getting to 6th gear rather than staying in 5th, at least from what I have seen driving mine.

[@mikyestella2158]

I just installed the Yukon 5.29 on my 2017 4x4 tacoma and I’m loving it. The 5.29 along with my pedal commander gives this tacoma some powerJust finished the 500 mile breakin period. Yukon is great and for the price.

[@clover7359]

The 3rd gen Tacoma: when family sedan engines and diesel truck gearing combine. Seriously, these trucks should have come with 4.875 final drive as standard, or at the very least a factory option. If they gave the truck an 8 speed auto, that would give it the "gear" its "looking for". It could use a ratio in between 4th and 5th, and the 8 speed fills in that slot. The only reason it gets a 3.91 ratio stock is the pressure from the EPA.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

At least they put the better gearing ratio in the manuals! But I agree on the auto's they should have offered better gearing or at least tuned the transmission properly instead of just adding a 6th gear that's pointless. But I will say after doing this regear, even though I had to pay for this, it's made the truck drive so much smoother!!

[@Jefe4x4]

Cruise control is the worst on the highway with minimal incline. The truck goes full force to get to MPH that is set.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

After the regear it’s completely different! Sometimes depending on the hill it’ll downshift, but it’s not like it was when it jumped two gears down and screamed.

[@jdmartinezrmz111]

How much and did you get better gas mileage

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Not sure on the mpg yet, I want to go through a whole tank to get a better idea, and the kit is around $1500.

[@jeffj5457]

What are your gas numbers now? before and after.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I have a video coming soon on that!

[@robo5391]

Love my 6 spd manual . Fun to drive

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It's cool Toyota offers a manual for the Tacoma! I don't enjoy it as much as a manual sportscar, but it's cool for sure.

[@Rickwynne]

Are you tuned with OVtune as well? I’m debating doing this cause I hate the shifting

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

No, I don't have the tune! Honestly I don't know enough about the tune, but I believe it can help with the shifting. The re-gear definitely helped and I love how it drives out on the highway! If you plan on keeping the stock tires, the tune is better, but if you are going up (I'm running 34's now), the gearing will be better!

[@Rickwynne]

Hey one more question. If I were to regear to 4.88, is there a downfall to top end speed on highway? Thanks.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@Rickwynne There shouldn’t be, I tested my top speed and it was about 95 mph, I only did that once bc everyone told me it would drop and it did, but I usually go 70 anyway so it shouldn’t effect normal highway speeds.

[@Donkarnage223]

Is the Manwel not 4.30??? IDK why I am the odd man out but my 17 OR drives around in 6th all day long on the freeways and streets. Could be because it is mostly flat in SoCal where I am at. I get about 23MPG with Load E tires and some armor. If there is a hill it will downshift but so did the Chevy's I had in the past. Also the 04B04 ECU update makes a difference!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Flat highway's would definitely help for sure. I've noticed a night and day difference with the shifting after doing this, but I haven't seen the ECU update you are talking about.

[@Donkarnage223]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed T-SB-0062-18. This is the TSB number through Toyota. There are threads all over TW about it. It helps with shift points, holding gears, I feel like throttle response too. For 2016-2018 trucks tho.

[@tacopapii]

How much was it with install?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Installed it myself :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJWTkqStd5eBodE

[@michaellara9215]

How does low end torque feel. I need new gears to make it up dunes.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Actually I have a video coming soon on that! For me it's kind of hard to tell, but I do feel like it has improved slightly, it's not enough to say it's a night and day difference, but I think it's there if that makes sense.

[@cod63667]

Have used my ‘18 tacoma off-road to drive cross country the past 2 years and have over 65k on it. Towing boats, trailers I’ve really gotten annoyed with stock gearing and cruise control. Stopped using cruise all together and put a brush guard on. Was this very expensive?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It was about $1500, I've heard labor can cost more than that which is why I did it myself!

[@devinmockk]

My 2017 on 33x11.5 stock automatic trans. Basically uses 4th gear at all times on the freeway even at 90mph. Most annoying thing is that it'll kill its own fuel mileage due to crap programming from toyota 13mpg highway all day long.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I don’t see this truck staying in 4th at 90 lol, I’ve had mine up there and it makes it to 6th. I’ve never seen 13 even with my 34’s, that’s interesting to hear.

[@ShootingSportz]

Whats the clip on your steering wheel for?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That was holding the GoPro for the gauge cluster angle.

[@robormiston2841]

Best bang for the buck for sure. I have 5.29 and 35 inch tires on my 93 4 Runner and it's so much fun to drive. Night and day difference.

[@pebips]

Works in a tacoma 2018 2.7L?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It should! Check the website just to double check.

[@blackobsidian7905]

First, Idol and nice mod for Tacoma 😊

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Thanks!

[@93hondaeg]

Is this a v6 or 4?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

This is the V6 Tacoma!

[@sirseacow4462]

what about towing a travel trailer would it be safe to do that? I just lifted my 17 OR and I knew I'd get less mpg which is fine, but would the gears push that back up?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Oh yeah! I actually made a video on that! kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3KsnYqvbd93q68. I've noticed that the gearing has helped my mpg go up from around 18-18.5 to 19-19.5, so it's not crazy but I've seen that. With towing it won't help with mpg lol, but I think it helps some with towing and not shifting as much.

[@LPFE42]

ok, thanks you the info

[@richie21785]

Nice vid, what was you mpg before the re gear and what was it after?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Before I was averaging about 18.5, I don't have a good number right now, I think I need a few more tanks to see, but I will post updates on Instagram, I'm hoping it's more than that!

[@richie21785]

Ah okay I’m gonna make sure to follow. How did you manage to get that gas mileage with 33s!

[@sandvitrafilms5270]

Have you ever tried or read into the OV tune for the tacoma VS the regear?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I did not, I have heard some things on that, but never really looked into it. Do you have that on yours?

[@techsocial626]

Here's my take that I wish someone would've told me about this mod: If you're going to get this mod with the intention to tow better, probably not worth it. I tow a modest 2500 lbs travel trailer at 60 mph. I will say it does accelerate much better than the stock 3.71, and it does utilize 5th and 6th gear. But it will, more often than not, downshift into 4th and even scream into 3rd at 5500 rpm depending on the incline. This is still characteristic of having the stock differential overall to me. MPG's were really not anything substantially better either, I don't think I can say I even get better MPG's towing now than before. Overall, the 3rd gen Taco just isn't tuned the same way as it's predecessors because of government EPAs. It's not Toyota's fault. And I would still say I'd buy a Tacoma over any other midsize pickup out there. I just wouldn't have gotten this particular mod done personally.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

To be fair, regear companies never state it’ll help with towing! That shouldn’t be an expectation. And yea, it doesn’t help much with towing, I made a whole video on that! I don’t think regulations would affect how 6th gear performs! Where did you see that? But I agree, Tacoma all day for the mid size truck!

[@pat802313]

what’s the horsepower on that with 5.29

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

The same! The gearing doesn't affect the horsepower at all, it just helps with the gearing ratio and does a good job especially on the highway.

[@jameshoward3071]

What is your rpm at 75 to 78 because most free way speeds are 75 to 80 I’m stock with 265/70/17 tires

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Around 70 I'm at 2300, so it's not too much more than when I had the stock gears.

[@NiftyShifty1]

You should show the rpms at 80 to 90 for Texas drivers.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Haha, I'll be testing the top speed here soon since a lot of people are curious about that!

[@trex3215]

Great video. I have 17 TRD sport Tacoma I am about to get my re gear done but how did you brake in the front gear?

[@PeteFransson]

Truth.

[@CountYulith]

I have a Tacoma with this gearing and honestly the thing kind of maxes out around 85 mph. It also gets 14 miles a gallon if you are going 75 mph. Granted I have my truck lifted and armored up but this gearing is definitely better for off-road crawling than it is for the highway.

[@mileslynch]

Does this feel more like a performance Tacoma, and do you wish you had a manual

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It doesn't really change it being faster if that's what you mean, and I've driven the manual, it'd be fun, but I like my truck having an auto and manuals for cars! Just personal preference.

[@mileslynch]

Bros FOURR Speed makes sense, for example when you had the R8, I miss that car

[@lordestrella231]

Ive felt that it takes a while to get past 2nd gear then it hits 3rs gear

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah these help the whole drive be much smoother!

[@evobudbrink]

Why is there a potato chip bag clip on the steering wheel. And does that affect the regearing of the steering wheel? lol

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

lol, that's the GoPro jaw mount! Works really well!

[@evobudbrink]

Bros FOURR Speed you and your brother are two of the hardest working you tubers out there, I for one want to thank you guys for all the content you provide throughout not only the pandemic but just in general. Not naming names but there are a lot of egos out there in the car blogging world and you guys are straight up cool. Keep up the good work! I’m gonna keep watching.

[@behindenemylines9033]

Did you replace the needle bearing with the ECGS bushing? I’ve got a vibration in my front end right after doing. 2” lift with 33’s. Supposedly the ECGS bushing takes care of the vibe. Doing my gears this week!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I haven't had to do that at all!! I did that on my last tacoma with a 6'' lift, but even with my 3.5'' up front and 3'' in the rear, I don't have any vibrations. If it goes away when you put the truck into 4wd then you know that the needle bearing is the problem. Double check on lug nuts that they are tight, maybe it's the drive shaft (some kits come with the carrier bearing drop kit)....also consider the differential drop kit ($40), hope this helps!

[@rx8dude907]

Aren't you supposed to break the gears in before you start dogging it?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yea, there's a 20 minute drive to do, then let them cool and you should be good after that. I'm at about 40p miles on them in this video, but I drove like grandma until this part of the video.

[@NorthEastDirt]

Nitro says 500mile break in to keep the warranty

[@toddschwarz8256]

Yes, he is not breaking the gears in correct. It’s 500 miles of breaking the vehicle in and not hammering on the gas. The 20 minute cool period is incorrect. ECGS says no more than 50 miles and let the vehicle cool for 30 minutes until you reach 500. Doing a single break in of 15-20 miles is not enough.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@toddschwarz8256 Like I said I'm at around 400 miles and doing a slight acceleration at this time is ok. Nitros instructions say a 20 minute drive for an initial break in, and then the first 500 before you can tow or anything like that.

[@jerryfernandez8881]

How do you break in the 4x4? Same process?

[@dkshdw2004]

Wish I could do it myself. Around here, it's hard to find a good place to do a gear swap. From what I hear it's a hit or miss, also depends on who works on it. Either way it's going to be a pretty penny for me.

[@fotomotoxxiii]

Pattern and test tools don't lie. If they dont show you a pattern after doing the work stay away. We posted every axle pattern we ever did online. 3 years later it's still there. Honest shops dont hide anything

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Make sure you have someone who really knows what they are doing!

[@davidweaver7724]

Just out of curiosity what did you gas mileage do

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Still have to drive some more to see!

[@valkoriont2061]

What’s the RPM at 80mph?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I don't know, the roads aren't fast enough for that so I never go 80, but I would assume around 2500, maybe a bit higher.

[@NorthEastDirt]

80mph gps is 2650rpm

[@sidbhatt420]

Wassup BROSS !

[@richardlee2359]

I have a 2019 and have never had the problem with the transmission searching for gears really. My truck gets into 6th gear all the time on the highway. My truck is completely stock though.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Even with my stock truck, I never got into 6th. When you see "D" on the dash, doesn't always mean you are using 6th. You could have no problems like you said though and that's cool. When you are cruising in what you think is 6th gear, put in into manual mode and see if it goes to 5th or 4th just to double check!

[@DavidSanchez-bm5cn]

Are you still running a pedal commander?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I do have that still. I've messed with it some and still like using it!

[@DavidSanchez-bm5cn]

Have you been able to notice a difference from old gears and new gears with it?

[@udrunk2002]

mpg update?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I'll be making a video soon on that!

[@shermfj]

Thoughts on going 5.29, but leaving everything as stock?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Hmm, I've seen people, even the Nitro guys doing 4.88's with everything stock. I'm sure 5.29's can be done, but check out there channel for some more info on that because I know they were going to do the 4.88's, not sure if they talked about that yet!

[@markmillner8114]

Mine doesn't do it that bad

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Do you have stock tires> Double check when you're on the highway, put it into manual and see if it goes to 4th or 5th. Crazy that mine pretty much never went in 6th gear

[@rodrigovidalperez5397]

Where is the best place to get gears from?? I got a 2019 Trd offroad and I want to do 5.29 on it.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I got mine from Nitro gear and axle!

[@arefinsiddique5006]

Why didn't you upload video yesterday?? Just asking..

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Been busy with other projects, so unfortunately we missed a day!

[@robertyoung8289]

More importantly. What the heck is that on your steering wheel ?

[@fidikvien7682]

It's the camera for the gauges

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It's the GoPro mount to get the gauge cluster angle.

[@Mr_Clean]

How did Toyota get this so wrong?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I don't think they have fixed it for the 2021 model either. It's not crazy bad, but they give it a bad reputation because everyone thinks it's an engine problem, but they just didn't give 6th gear enough to be utilized efficiently. Even with that, it's been the best truck!

[@bobjohnson2920]

Worst Transmission Cal I've ever experienced. I have 265x16 tires on my 2021 Tacoma and it shifts in and out of 5th/6th ever 30 seconds doing 75mph on highway. I just put the truck in 5th gear and it's perfect. 14 MPG. Horrible

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yea on the highway it's not the best and it tool me a while to notice that, but with 34's and the 5.29's I'm averaging around 15.5/16...but it stays in 6th on the highway now and is so much soother.

[@frymy14]

Got my 3rd gen tuned for $200 and got the same affect.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It's not going to be the same at all...the tune doesn't affect gearing whatsoever...it's not the same.

[@gageyonce1832]

Nice