Does Size Matter? Small Vs Big Fighters

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Does Size Matter? Small Vs Big Fighters
Joe sits down with Paul Felder, a retired professional mixed martial artist and current colour commentator for the UFC. www.ufc.com/athlete/paul-felder
This clip was taken from the JRE MMA Show episode #135 w/Paul Felder.
Host: Joe Rogan @joerogan
Producer: Jamie Vernon @jamievernon
Guest: Paul Felder
#jre #jamievernon #theovon #elonmusk #joerogan #podcast #jordanpeterson #lexfridman #paulfelder

[@robertnguyen9493]

I fought amateur MMA at 135lbs, and I walked around between 150-155. But I was the smallest guy at the gym I trained out of. My smallest training partner was still 20lbs heavier than me. Size does matter! That being said, skill also matters as does mindset. A honey badger weighs between 20-35lbs and is absolutely ferocious. They will regularly square off with lions and jaguars and survive. Size absolutely matters, but it’s only one of the factors that decides the outcome of a fight.

[@antondredoublee7727]

That's crazy that the next smallest guy was still having to cut nearly 40 lbs. I can understand if it's a middleweight or light heavyweight, but cutting that much or more for all those guys at that size just seems really unhealthy. I doubt most amateurs have the expertise and guidance to do that as safely and properly as pros too but maybe I'm wrong.

[@robertnguyen9493]

@@antondredoublee7727 I was the only bantamweight at the gym. I trained with two middleweights, a light heavyweight, and one training partner that would classify as a super heavyweight. I only cut about 20lbs. I apologize for any confusion.

[@vinniedixon1140]

There's no jaguars in Africa for honey badgers to face or honey badgers in South America for jaguars to face.

[@TeutobergForestryService]

But a Wolverine, which is nearly the same animal in terms of abilities, is 15% heavier and would destroy a honey badger.. a good big beats a good small

[@blindshot709]

@@TeutobergForestryService I live in Canada and Wolverines will fight grizzly's , mountain lions and wolves .

[@OhGeeGanksta]

Of course size matters. Skill makes a difference too. But between 2 equally skilled fighters, the bigger fighter is going to have an advantage.

[@rashidhatimparker2766]

You’re just talking,it’s a two way street

[@OhGeeGanksta]

@@rashidhatimparker2766 Smh. Why do you think we have weight classes? I really doubt you've ever been in a real fight if you don't realize size and reach matters. If Mighty Mouse tries to fight Jon Jones, MM would die.

[@damoncherry5649]

@@OhGeeGanksta I like how you used the most extreme weight and size difference

[@OhGeeGanksta]

@@damoncherry5649 Yes, because he's denying size matters period. So why does it matter how "extreme" my example is if it doesn't? So now you're trying to change the goal post, "size only matters if they're this much bigger and this much stronger..." Like I said, between two closely skilled fighters, size matters. People who deny that are idiots who haven't actually ever fought. There are other factors, but clearly, as you had conceded, size freaking matters.

[@damoncherry5649]

@@OhGeeGanksta lmao because it’s not usually that extreme bro.. your moving the goal post.. with pros it matters.. they are elite.. in the streets it just matters who’s the better smarter fighter.. I’ve seen a lot of big dudes get knocked out and manhandled by lil niggas.. size don’t equal automatic wins unless your a high level fighter

[@albertc2390]

Size matters. When you have someone big laying into you from the top position, you are in a world of hurt.

[@hms9891]

Yeah, I compete at heavyweight on amateur circuit I am 215-225. It’s usually little people who don’t know how to fight, or have an idea who say “bigger they are the harder they fall” 😂

[@rashidhatimparker2766]

Notice how nobody talks about the other way around.This why some of you don’t know how to fight,it’s driven into your head from children that you don’t fight the big guy

[@dirtgames13]

Lol i get it

[@damoncherry5649]

@@hms9891 lmao it’s usually the big guys who can’t fight.. that think them being big equals winning a fight.. if you can fight you can fight .. if you can’t you can’t.. size doesn’t change that

[@damoncherry5649]

@@rashidhatimparker2766 I was raised anybody can get it.. if they to big you pick something up

[@joshdaley3061]

Cowboy had been asking for weigh-ins on the day of the fight for years

[@marcusaurelius5149]

I watched a Japanese fight were the weigh in was 3 or 4 days before the fight. The weight difference between the two fighters was nearly 40 lbs. What's the point of weight classes when you have that much time?

[@deBrawnyo]

Then we'd need a whole bunch of weight classes. No one is cutting even 5 lbs of weight in a day and fighting like a sound healthy man the same day.

[@josephwatson7232]

@@deBrawnyopeople would not cut. They would diet/ bulk right to the line. All of the weight classes would shift up but it would work. E.G. welterweight would become 190 or less. Fighters would diet all year and show up between 186-189.9

[@galacticmaui2]

When skill is comparable size matters. With that said a lot of untrained big guys don’t do as well against smaller skilled guys.

[@michaelhauser6440]

There's more to fighting than skill too. No two guys are going to be equally matched. Some guys will be faster, more aggressive, tougher, stronger, more experienced etc.

[@galacticmaui2]

@@michaelhauser6440 speaking broadly of course there is a million different factors that go into it.

[@sandews8564]

@@michaelhauser6440 just speaking like professional against professional I see his point. But smaller skilled guys always get the average big guy literally always

[@bishopgrey7578]

@@sandews8564 skilled big dudes destroy literally everyone by your logic then,

[@sandews8564]

@@bishopgrey7578 nah never said that at all a skilled big guy vs newbie small guy is obvious a skilled big and small guy is a good fight

[@frankcastle3942]

I will forever advocate for weigh-ins the day of the fight. It's crazy that some dudes cut 30+ pounds and then re-hydrate.

[@loganfignewton]

then fights will have to be canceled last minute

[@letmegetuhhh3959]

There would be more day of cancellations and when other places tried it, fighters just went in severely compromised and took more damage

[@lorenzo-pj7rj]

@@loganfignewton no they won’t, it’ll just force fighters to fight at their natural and authentic weight. This will expose a lot of fighters. They could also do rehydration clauses

[@MuayChaiyaJustin]

@@lorenzo-pj7rj too risky and huge financial liability, it may not be what you wanna hear but it is simply too risky for promotions to do same day weigh ins

[@rsia08]

And maybe have a range of 5 lbs or so that the fighters can fall within, so LW would be something like 152.5-157.5, reducing the likelihood for cancelations? There might be problems that would arise though.

[@jimsheppard3166]

I like Paul Felder more on the 🎙️ then I did as a fighter, and he was one of my favorite fighters. I'm glad he was given an opportunity to commentate after he wrapped up his career. He's very good at offering insight and experience but also keeps the attention and focus on the fighters, instead of making it about himself.

[@TheSlowPony77]

I prefer him commentating over anyone else tbh.

[@TheNotoriousLCB]

Charles’ fight with Max was probably the closes anyone’s been to dying in the cage

[@gilbertluna6802]

Why?

[@TheNotoriousLCB]

@@gilbertluna6802 he tore his esophagus

[@TheEnderBand]

@@gilbertluna6802 you can easily die from internal hemorrhaging from esophageal tears

[@Evan-pt8nr]

Rory mcdonald must of been pretty damn close

[@ao1461]

I cringe everytime I think of that fight, fighters need to be paid more

[@lordnarasimha2500]

Size matters relative to skill set and skill level. Bigger your opponent is, the more tailored your skillset as well as the skill difference needs to be.

[@BkBk-gy6vr]

Wrong, more advantages to the smalled fighter.

[@lordnarasimha2500]

@@BkBk-gy6vr I don’t even know where to begin with how incorrect your comment is….

[@BkBk-gy6vr]

@Lord Narasimha You dont know where to beging because you dont know what you're talking about. Ive trained in martial arts my whole life and have witnessed the smaller guys have the advantage and more stamina. All you have to do is watch boxing and MMA and you will see on average, the smaller guy wins. Mike Tyson was the baddest man on the planet for quite some time, and he was always smaller than his opponent. Flyod Mayweather was almost always the smaller guy in the ring. Dont get upset just because you're probably overweight, probably got your butt whooped by some skinny guy. Bigger isnt better.

[@Boogieman618]

@@BkBk-gy6vrthat is probably the most brain dead take I’ve ever heard lmao being smaller fucking sucks when it comes to fighting. First off you act like bigger guys don’t have stamina when the big guys that actually train do cardio on a daily basis. Second off, the bigger guy will 99% of the time have more reach. So besides agility and speed the smaller guy is fucked in every department unless he is more skilled.

[@drugbustin]

So you saying weight classes exist to protect the bigger fighter ?...you clearly have never been in a real fight 😂... Mike may have been short but he surely weighed more than most of his opponents, Floyd was also..he was also taller and more lengthy than some of his opponents...I can tell you not really a fan but just a casual based on your lack of knowledge 🤣🤣🤣 WTF this is sht you can literally go and google ffs @@BkBk-gy6vr

[@Estradinhas_do_ES]

Great video as always! Why don't we simply weight fighters the same day as the fight? And change weight limits of each division accordingly? Weight cut is an insane process with no benefit for anyone. And yes, size matters. For strikers, "dynamic reach" is also important (Mc Gregor being a good example).

[@Ismail-kv3ex]

I think there are 2 benefits for the production 1 is that the weigh in helps build anticipation and hype for the fight since the fighters are in the same room together and the news sources will publish more and more headlines about the fight, increasing the chance to gain attention 2 is that, like the sanctioned cheating Joe mentioned another time, it’s more exciting if the athletes bulk up the night before Chug water, fill up on pasta, size up as much as you can cause you can’t undo training camp that much and the extra fuel hits hard, pushing performance just a bit more Although I do think we should weigh fighters the day of the match, I see why it’s not implemented

[@Estradinhas_do_ES]

@@Ismail-kv3ex Sure, fully agree!

[@bigbadkittenperson9179]

@@Ismail-kv3exyeah it’s just that those are terrible reasons 🤦‍♂️

[@themeanaverage.1692]

super underrated fighter. possibly the most underrated fighter of all time. 1 loss unanimous. all other fights wins or bloody split decision wars. great commentator also

[@Mickyboi1]

Weight and skill are what matters most in a fight, if you’re one of guys that think the can fight because they are 6’5 you’re in for a shock one day when you wake up up face down in the concrete - probably at the hands of a guy that’s 5’5 and 120kg wet

[@andrejones7176]

Size always matter. Height, weight, wingspan… the advantage almost always plays a part in the fights. It’s a reason why Khabib was killing himself to cut to 155, he knew his advantage was being the bigger guy. Even with Volk, he’s not the tallest guy but has one of the longest reaches and used to weigh a brick house. It shows in his fights.

[@mrlee3294]

Size matters only when the natural weight distribution and skill set are both massively apart, however if you’re a pretty big guy though and someone’s bigger it doesn’t matter at that point. A prime Jon Jones so let’s say him back in 2015, he’s 6’4 and he probably walks around at 220. He would easily dismantle a 330 pound behemoth who does strongman or something. However if it’s Demetrius Johnson vs that 330 pound strongman then it comes a big problem.

[@akjohnny5997]

this is true, a trained fighter would destroy 99% of the untrained population

[@sacredneutral7304]

Yeah but a good big guy beats a good small guy.... Most of the time..... You're comparing one of the best fighters ever to a strongman... Don't be silly.... You have to compare a good small guy with a good big guy.... Jones is a heavyweight but he cuts.... Forget that light heavyweight bs... So many heavyweights walk around with so much fat they they could get down to lhw if they wanted. Jones is a freak, leave him out. The wider the size gap then the lighter guy needs to make up for it in other departments....Speed.. Cardio....Skill etc... Depending on the size disparity, there strength might be very similar but it's the weight behind the strength that helps...Grappling it makes a huge difference and is the bigger guy has great technique when he punches, then he can use his weight behind that punch and that's what counts.

[@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252]

This statement makes little sense. Size like any attribute always matters. Give a figure skater 20 extra pounds and they are done. Put some fighter in a weight class meant for men 20 pounds heavier and they will have problems. I think you meant to say that massive size differences can sometimes be overcome when the skill sets are incredibly strongly in favor of the smaller person.

[@jackjack4412]

Lol it's not a problem. DJ is getting smashed.

[@jackjack4412]

​@@akjohnny5997 not true at all. Unless you're in the UFC do NOT fight anyone athletic and 50 pounds more than you. Even if they've never trained to fight.

[@bendike955]

The extent of the difference is what matters. I'm pretty sure a well trained 170er could easily beat up a non trained but strong 205er. However there can be such a difference which you just cannot overcome with skills/experience. I think a good example is the light "sparring" video of Conor vs the Mountain. You can see moments there which gives away that if the Mountain would decide to really beat Conor with bad intent - he would not get a say in that...

[@smoothcast6940]

Dude. A trained 135er could easily beat someone weighing 210 who isn't trained. The difference of size could be bigger but casual fans aren't ready for that conversation yet

[@Ta-bd7tx]

@@smoothcast6940 nahh mate I disagree, I trained boxing for 2 years but never trained MMA/wrestling and BJJ, did my first MMA class today and we did some wrestling at the end, the guys my size/heavier took me down fairly easily most of the time (I weight 192ibs) but the smaller guys who were way more skilled really couldn’t get me down effectively and even when they did I still ended up in the more dominant position . TL;DR weight definitely matters a lot lol Anything over 40ibs difference and it’s a very slim chance for the smaller fighter. I would say around that anyway

[@JiggyJones0]

​@@smoothcast6940 a 135 lb man isn't going to be able to do shit to a man that can pull a 1000lb vehicle. If he grabs any part of Conor's body it's rip for him.

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

@@smoothcast6940 False. Chances would be slim. 135? Bruh i have trained since i was 5 and am 43. Seen lots of amazing fights. Never ever have i seen a 135 pounder do well vs a guy 210. I seen great judokas struggle with untrained guys when they weigh too much. Not saying impossible but slim chance.

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

@@Ta-bd7tx Facts he is wrong

[@mmustap3]

I think what gets missed about the long lean body type is that those fighters have larger organs and bones for their body weight, so they have way better stamina and tend to have larger jaws, sharper knuckles, elbows, and knees compared with their opponents.

[@peterwolf8395]

But also less armour around the body far less even

[@etriusdanny6618]

Great take on it ! smart thinking to observe that

[@musashi542]

this is one of the dumbest things i read in a while

[@0Caracalla]

I'd take a short light weight fighter over some big guy who's never trained. It's like putting in a tiger against a cow.

[@nolans1675]

Izzy was 200.5 not 194. Joe’s dropping the ball a bit saying that and saying Masvidal is better than GSP.

[@tigresalas3574]

He's getting old and got too much stuff on his mind

[@gigachad6885]

Jew Rogan is paid by the UFC, of course he's gonna push for this recency bias

[@j4bee768]

Someone exchanged his DMT pipe for a crack pipe..

[@OnKingFly]

You gotta listen to the podcast my dude. Thats a botched headline, he never said jorge is better the gsp. He said jorge would be a problem for anyone back in that era

[@snoop7589]

He's a bad fanboy for bl8ck fighters. It's emberassing .

[@sgdl7061]

Size matters in regards to stamina and speed as well. There are always trade offs.

[@americansuperdad5769]

In my experience, the level of skill is most indicative of the outcome of a fight. However, when the skill level is the same or close, the bigger fighter can use that to their advantage. Training is the key. If you know your opponent and you train harder than they do, it makes a huge difference. I competed in Taekwondo and I witnessed this first hand. This is merely my humble opinion.

[@slushyslushslushbruh]

That's true. That said, in a self-defense context, back against the wall, pacifist options no longer available, if a crackhead trying to break in to a UFC fighter's home terrifies the UFC fighter because technically advantages exists, so size definitely matters and sometimes whatever you're intoxicated in does matter way more than skill if, say, guns aren't an option either.

[@americansuperdad5769]

@slushyslushslushbruh if we're talking about a street fight, I don't care if the dude is 4 foot tall, I'm not fighting fair. If I can get ahold of any object that can be used as a weapon, there's gonna be no mercy.

[@mannyvazquez4742]

Skill is always more important than size your are right

[@americansuperdad5769]

@mannyvazquez4742 Thank you. I feel that the more one trains and the more experience one accumulates will supercede physical disadvantages like size or strength.

[@mannyvazquez4742]

@@americansuperdad5769 I'm talking from experience, I've easily beat people twice my size, with speed and timing

[@KKSuited]

It's like this. Clone Mighty Mouse, but make him 6'6 and 285 lbs. Have that Mighty Mouse fight regular sized Mighty Mouse. Who wins? Becomes common sense at that point.

[@letmegetuhhh3959]

It don’t even gotta be that large a weight change. Throw 15 pounds and 2 inches on Mighty Mouse and he beats the shit out of his current self.

[@Tigo625]

@@letmegetuhhh3959 Maybe he loses his speed and abilities to do what he can do when lighter. You never know.

[@jackjack4412]

Any NFL lineman or linebacker would smash mighty mouse. It's that simple.

[@Tigo625]

@@jackjack4412 Completely delusional but go off.

[@TheRealJG0]

​@jackjack4412 lmao delusional, any NFL lineman most likely gets leg locked and his acl ripped off, dj wouldn't strike or wrestle with a linebacker, ufc heavyweight is one thing but size isn't the end all be all 🤣🤡

[@tdrivers1102]

In striking, size doesn’t really matter that much. It can add a little bit of sting to the punches but you pay for that in cardio. In grappling it makes a world of difference. A heavy guy laying on you is WAY more dangerous than a lighter guy simply because you’re carrying more weight

[@roardinoson7]

i agree with you, but then why are there weight classes in boxing?

[@kevthegoat8774]

A heavyweight will walk through any fighter under 200 pounds as they will have no respect for their strikes.

[@seanhwy9761]

I bet a 10th ranked or even 15th ranked heavy weight would kill anyone 150ld and under. Hell mayweather couldn't do anything against yt fake boxer Logan. The only thing that saved Logan was his huge size advantage. Tyson would have killed him. I think Mayweather pound for pound is a better boxer than Tyson.

[@tadehn6852]

What about reach, that’s big.

[@josheternal]

Not true. Size still matters a great deal even in striking. Floyd Mayweather is hands down the greatest and most skilled fighter in the history of boxing. And even with all that skill, he'd still get destroyed by any decent heavyweight

[@Georgesspierre]

I feel it's kind of unfair when i see these two giants Izzy and Alex fighting at middleweight. What if everybody fought at their true natural weight, without cutting water? That would be interesting.

[@brendanbonus3211]

Joes been sounding like a broken record when he talks about mma

[@aaaz90ful]

Maybe cause you don’t understand what your hearing

[@noicemate9111]

@@aaaz90fulnope it’s because he truly has nothing interesting to add anymore. He sounds like my friends at the lunch table 2 years ago in high school the way he talks about it these days. Hopefully he will give up the commentating spot soon because it’s becoming filler words at this point

[@nev12345678910]

@@aaaz90ful joe also has some ridiculous fucking opinions about mma lmao. Joes ideal fight is bareknuckle on a basketball court

[@jasonhamilton6098]

If skill sets are equal, size is a HUGE factor

[@JR-rv7sr]

Use your best/unique features to max potential and mentally plus physically stay focus and determined.... Any given day the one who wants it more wins no matter the size. Everyone has an off day especially when the other even if small its who wants it more

[@reiniervanramshorst1031]

The funniest people say weight doesn't matter in Jiu-Jitsu. But even small local tournaments have like ten weight classes and if you can cut 10% without losing much strength you're going to do Waay better 😂

[@letmegetuhhh3959]

People who say weight doesn’t matter in jiu jitsu don’t do jiu jitsu cause at the top of the sport they’re built like gears of war characters lmao

[@williambreeze2659]

Felder is a good guest!

[@SBAssociation]

As a flyweight I know how to fight man, But it would be so hard even against a Welterweight who doesn’t know how to fight their size and length alone, Again a 145-160 would be easy without skill. With? Gonna be a harddd fight (for me) 😊

[@fp8901]

Joe was actually right Roy Jones weighed 199 pounds the day of the fight. At the weigh-in a few days before he was 193 (really 189-190. He wore a bunch of clothes).

[@DirtyTalkTv]

Never ask a 5ft 5 guy with a size completion, he will defo say yes

[@t0p-D]

Izzy weighed like 217 when he stepped in the octagon against Yan at LHW

[@theunbeatable6598]

I thought he was 194 lbs

[@filipferencak2717]

​@F.O.C.K. He was 200.5 at the weigh ins, so probably around 206-210 in the fight, since he did look like he was cutting weight. Doubt he was 217 though, but I guess anything is possible

[@obliqueapplications8881]

When they said that Jon Jones is in the conversation about who the goat is, Firas Zahabi felt a disturbance in the Force.

[@tonysoprano3278]

Weight cuts are a huge thing and always have been. DC used to cut tons to make LH. Usman used to cut over 50lbs to make Welterweight. Paulo Costa cuts huge amount to make middleweight. Most fighters in the UFC do this.

[@kevthegoat8774]

If Usman is cutting 50 pounds then that's weak AF

[@kevthegoat8774]

@F.O.C.K. If Costa has a super small reach that's his problem, cutting that much weight is just weak, he walks around at the same weight Stipe Miocic fought his last few fights at. He clearly needs to sort his diet out as at the end of the day all this means is if Costa actually fought trained men his size then he's really not that good.

[@harryzanks9016]

Yeah tearing in an esophagus was probably more dirt cutting getting worse gerd probably getting ulcers that tore

[@joshdaley3061]

Lmao Connor gets a pass for fighting most of his career guys 4" smaller and 30 pounds lighter, Now Joe takes every chance to bring up Alex's size

[@amaresh1797]

30 pounds smaller really?

[@eddielopez7633]

Dumbest comment ever 😂 you must be new to MMA welcome bud lol

[@thesportsguy126]

He fought siver, poirier and max who all fought at 155. Mendes who was a jacked 145. Aldo who was the 145 goat.

[@rally_chronicles]

Yup. Connor sucks against ppl in his non IV weight class

[@seanhwy9761]

@@amaresh1797 it's an exaggeration to make a point. but yeah Connor for the most part was bigger, taller than his opponents on fight night. I wish they would change the weight rules. Like they have to make their weight for seven days in row before the fight and the get weighed right before they step in the ring. That's their real weight. Some guys gain 20 to 30 lbs after weigh ins.

[@varsame]

The small fighter has great personality 🥹

[@naspointO]

too many factors to consider. size, skill, strength, cardio, speed, fight IQ, timing, mental toughness, agility, flexibility, recovery ability, fight style, ruleset, luck..... when you start mixing and matching.... you can always find a way to beat the bigger or smaller opponent.

[@DicholasNiaz]

Size for sure matters when it comes to combat sports, I am 110 and my training patner is 160... Sparring hurts a lot😂

[@terrybates9874]

Joe literally has 6 talking points and just rotates them depending on who he’s speaking to

[@Trmvptv]

What are they?

[@terrybates9874]

@@Trmvptv that calf kicks have “changed the game”, that weight cutting should be abolished, that they shouldn’t use gloves, Trevor whitman has gloves that stop eye pokes, and anything to do with bears

[@michaelhauser6440]

Sounds like everybody that's ever been alive. You're different? Lol Maybe you should have your own show since you're such a brilliant conversationalist

[@terrybates9874]

@@michaelhauser6440 your defo part of the LGBTQ+ community

[@Personalapocalypse77.]

You sit comfortably behind your screen and safely judge, meanwhile Joe has built an empire and carries the entire Austin comedy scene on his back, not to mention how instrumental he was to the success of the UFC.

[@marcosmosquea3457]

You can look into this, izzy on fight day was not 194 he had to cut to get there, sure he’s not Alex or Jan’s size but he’s technically a LHW

[@shaneallen1192]

Size does matter. A larger stronger opponent can make mistakes that the smaller man can not make. Size and strength forgives a lot of sins. It is not everything but to say that it does not matter is disingenuous.

[@jaydoggy456]

Anybody who says "size doesn't matter" doesn't know what they are talking about. Size matters a lot!!! I would say size isn't everything but to say size doesn't matter is insane.

[@user-io6eq9gt6w]

They speak of Izzy being at a disadvantage as if he hasn't enjoyed the Jon Jones effect of having nearly a foot in reach advantage over almost every opponent. And before people bring up Stefan Struve, he's the exception: the rule is that a reach that big is the equivalent of having like an extra whole second of reaction time, and for a striker? It's an ungodly advantage. And like Jones, Izzy struggles when he doesn't have it, end of

[@Haunter-006]

I was gonna keep watching but then I read the second sentence of the title and got disinterested

[@TheSwordfish009]

we should have open weight division and see what happens. I'm curious if smaller fighters would adapt to fighting large opponents as the years ago by. Legendary Muay Thai fighter Saenchan destroyed fighters 20-40lbs heavier than him.

[@KobeManuPetro]

The only fight where Khabib look beatable was against a guy that was bigger than him. Khabib, Usman, even Jones are one of the greats because they are also the biggest guys in the division

[@dashawnfelton4886]

jones wasn’t the biggest neither was khabib, gustafsson was the same size as jones and dustin was bigger than khabib, usman was the biggest for his weight class other than when woodley still fought

[@o-wolf]

​@@dashawnfelton4886Gustaf was actually bigger if I'm not mistaken, the heavyweight fight bones took was also bigger/heavier naturally too

[@KobeManuPetro]

@@dashawnfelton4886 dustin literally came from FW, Khabib fought Gleison Tibau who was the only bigger guy in his career and almost lost. Also, Jones almost lost to prime Gus as well, because of the fact Gus could match his size

[@matthewpaul8755]

⁠@@o-wolfyou’re definitely mistaken… Jon is and was so much more muscular and bigger in size than gus. Gus matches his reach and what not though. And John is huge now just as big as the other heavy weights.

[@dashawnfelton4886]

@@KobeManuPetro dustin is def bigger jus look at the size between the two

[@johnhernandez284]

Size matters but it doesn't mean strength. And if you have a small fighter who knows how to fight big people then he's got the advantage

[@alexong2542]

Size matters, but only up until a certain degree. For instance, if you picked a welterweight like Manny Pacquiao up against a heavyweight like Mike Tyson, Tyson will MURDER Pacquiao in seconds. The mass difference is too huge. However, if both of them are heavyweights, being taller and have a longer reach do give you an advantage, but it isn't the be all and end all factor. Take Deontay Wilder and put him up against Mike Tyson in the 80s. I guarantee you, Tyson would eat Wilder up for breakfast in the first round. PS: you'll notice that when I meant size, I meant the difference in mass, not the height. If you still don't understand by now, let me put this simply, "When two men of equal skill come together, the bigger one would win. However , if two men of equal size come together, the one who's more skilled would win. If both men are of equal size and equal skill, then it depends on who has more heart to win"

[@antondredoublee7727]

I wouldn't exactly call felder short and stumpy... he's actually listed taller than Oliviera. Although his reach is several inches shorter. But still not short by any means, Oliviera just has a super long wingspan

[@drewmeyer9679]

Not necessarily. There’s a reason weight classes exist in COMBAT SPORTS. However a trained fighter will beat a guy in a street fight 9/10x. 180-200lbs is not that far in a street fight however 180-200 in a pro combat sport is a lot.

[@sirtoneyd3138]

Yes,size matters, simple. If little guy is skilled & big guy is not then little guy can win. If both guy's have equal skill but one is 100 lbs heavier & stronger of course he has a huge advantage and wins 8 out of 10 times. It's the reason sports have weight classes, in the interest of fairness.

[@trilligami]

Size definitely matters and skill is also a factor, it depends on who’s better at fighting the opposite fighter. Some big guys are almost just as fast as smaller guys which is really hard to deal with. But some big guys just swinging wide and are really slow because they ONLY fight other big guys- those big guys are generally pretty to easy to fight if you’re cautious.

[@johmale1]

big or small they all crumbled under my heavy judo strikes/kicks+ i had stellar karate ground game.

[@GuzQuebec]

Size matters. It is why Jon Jones or Alex Pereira can put their opponents on a box. It is hard to find an angle against those two. You need to step in before hit them. While you barely touch Alex's face he throw a bomb over your head. While you can punch Jones he can elbow you or take you down.

[@MrDayday4641]

With two untrained fighters, it's a huge deal! With two trained fighters, it's a huge deal! If the smaller guy is highly trained, and the big guy isn't, not so much!

[@rumsbums3113]

Guy did even Dwarf Jan at LH

[@Flips44]

I believe you want to be well balanced. If ur too big you can only throw so many of those before you get tired or someone has more speed then you. But you don’t want to be this weak fighter with no power either. But above all it’s skill

[@ryanmcclintock4798]

No isn’t wasn’t joe. He weighed 201 on weigh in day.

[@treesyeaaa8345]

Yea idk why he’s lying

[@raw_silkynyc3781]

@@treesyeaaa8345 ya both sound stupid

[@Kyle-dl1ig]

@@treesyeaaa8345 izzys got a certain skin color joe likes

[@gigachad6885]

​@@Kyle-dl1igJew Rogan

[@gibgibbo5738]

@@Kyle-dl1ig lol you just hurt cos black athletes are better jones is the goat and joe acknowledges them 😂😂

[@shalvenic3948]

I always known size matters but i wanted to know when does it matter or better yet when does it play a significant role in a fight? Because the way i think about it if someone is only 10 pounds heavier than you it shouldn't matter that much, but if a person is 20 or more now there's a problem lol.

[@RonnieM90]

If size did not matter, then there would not be different weight classes.

[@MrAmaz1ng000]

Well, in most sports the longer, taller, bigger athlete wins. There’s advantages of being big that skill could never teach.

[@jacobboyd6821]

Two people that are not experienced fighters would you say that the advantage would go to the bigger stronger person or to the smaller quicker person?

[@danielvermeer3363]

Another GOAT in Joe's mind.😮😮

[@marc2638]

Size does play a part but not so much as skill. You can't do shit without skill weather big or small. I'm 180lbs I look like I weigh 150lbs, I'm super lean someone who's 180lbs and wants to tango I say let's roll, my skill set gives me the confidence to push forward. If I happen to lose, eh whatever recover learn apply practice. My vote is on skill more so than size.

[@ccink3931]

Let's be honest... Aldo was having a tough time making 145lbs BEFORE usada came in... Now post usada he's smaller... "Randomly" 😂

[@joelbyrnes9710]

I think language needs to be cleared up on whats being talked about here. Size doesnt matter, but weight does. Its simple physics. If a lught and heavy fighter throw a punch at the same speed, with the same technique, the heavier fighter is gonna generate more force. Mike Tyson was fairly small compared to other heavyweight fighters during his time, that didnt matter. And Gracie vs Shamrock always ended the same way too. Technique, weight and conditioning matter way more than simple "weight" A guy whobis 190 and muscular, and another guy who is 190 and chunky looking arent going to perform the same.

[@andrewzsoler]

Yes it matters alot especially in street

[@bunnyrabbitplays8979]

1000 years from now someone will still ask this question.

[@pgpro8691]

I watched the fight again this morning and every time Pereira hit Izzy it hurt him whereas when Izzy hit pereira with a decent shot it didn’t faze him… can’t believe Izzy’s the favorite but he could definitely win.

[@gregfalco4528]

People love to make up bullsh*t about how much fighters cut for fights. Pereira is the same height as Jon Jones. I remember at his peak at 205, Jones said he was 218 before his cut to 205. Pereira is definitely not as big as Jones was in those days. Pereira weighs 210 at MOST for his fights at middleweight.

[@thedisconnect5769]

Then again ufc handicaps smaller guys by limiting certain kicks. Soccer kicks could be utilized as a fantastic equalizer against someone larger that would be harder for a bigger guy to adequately pull off

[@AbcAbc-sp1od]

What's a soccer kick?

[@HJRC_]

It's the performance that matters

[@jordanfrancisco27]

Love Paul Felder. Period.

[@yd-plowk]

Here for the professional fight comments

[@wmccinema]

Varelans vs. Vovchanchyn . Size and brute power against agility, technique, precision, timing, and power.

[@kevthegoat8774]

Varelans wasn't a very skilled fighter, Igor was special though

[@wmccinema]

@@kevthegoat8774 what did I say? size and brute power, read that again karen

[@BrandonGiordano]

Size matters when all things are equal. Reach, height, strength, etc. However skill is the great equalizer. That's why Volk is so impressive. Almost always outsized but skillwise is simply better.

[@jerryesque3747]

It's simple, you fight the big man game you'll lose to a big guy. If you fight the small man game you'll lose to a small guy. There is a reason why lions use stealth to catch there prey instead of using speed and endurance.

[@RainbowBandana]

But gorillas coming straight for you fuck all that playing around stuff I'm ripping your arms off

[@smackdoe3626]

Izzy weighed in at 204.5 in his fight against Jan. Same point still stands, he didn't gain any size

[@carloslemusjr]

actually when the fight weights came out Izzy actually weighed like 215

[@TabooRevolution13]

Ill fight Izzy!

[@DanMehmet-yy1ly]

@@carloslemusjryou got a link to that ?

[@DanMehmet-yy1ly]

@@carloslemusjrhe weighed in at 200 lbs with clothes on

[@therenaissanceman441]

How dare Joe question Jamie's search accuracy?

[@thedadlife247]

all sizes matters theirs advantages and disadvantages to every fight. It's about efficiency

[@MrZola1234]

Height and length is extremely valuable in fighting.

[@KM-iv9xy]

Size matters, but level of training is more important

[@rajendranadarajan8931]

The biggest misconception about weight cutting is it will give you an edge in terms of size. Sure, you're bigger than your opponent by 25 pounds. You've also severely dehydrated your body and 24 hours is not enough to recover from that. Your strength is compromised. Your cardio is compromised. And the biggest one of all, when your brain is severely dehydrated, you get knocked the fuck out a lot easier than usual.

[@TheJuanvegas]

If size doesn't matter, take away the weight classes. It's not even a debate. That, or ask someone's wife

[@DirtyTalkTv]

Here answers the question, how many giys move upweights and win titles fighting bigger guys, hundreds. Evrytime sombody goes down a weight gets destroyed

[@KevinSmith-xt8xr]

No different from racing V8 vs 4cyl Stock for Stock the v8 will win But as everyone said skill comes in Then in terms of weightclass Weight will determine the factor of winning.

[@scotiacrumpler2824]

Size matters so much in combat sports that they have to make weight divisions. If it didn’t matter guys wouldn’t nearly starve themselves to death to “make weight”.

[@Bobbyonehitwonder]

Weight is not size.

[@flippaRuATX]

No matter how big you are one day you will face an obstacle much bigger than you and if you are convinced size matters then you already lost that battle

[@RainbowBandana]

So according to your logic the smaller guy has a looooooong battle uphill then😅

[@flippaRuATX]

@@RainbowBandana I think in comparison to a hill everyone is small

[@joseparamo2756]

I don't know how to fight and would end up fighting bigger guys but I would stand my ground with them. They also didn't know how to fight as well lol

[@darbyheavey406]

Billy Cohn had Joe Louis on the ropes in their bout in an epic 1941 fight. Louis did KO Cohn when it became a slugfest.

[@jfloyo11]

There are weight classes for a reason. Size only does not matter in a vacuum.

[@chunkymokey1]

i saw a dude. maybe 5 foot at most. choke out a dude who was atleast 6"4 and weighing 110+ kg. Both dudes are mma fighters. the skills paid the bills for that little guy

[@KKSuited]

Yeah but take that 5 foot dude, make him 6'7 and 285 and have him fight his 5 foot tall self. Who wins?

[@chunkymokey1]

@@KKSuited yeh the little guy just had better skills. My example shows that skills more advanced would take out a truck. So really being big won't make up for lack of skill. If both are equal skill ye the bigger guy wins. Just shows you that BJJ does help lil dude win

[@xv4373]

Exceptions do not make the rule

[@whocares9198]

​@@KKSuited how many 6 foot 7 guys do you know? Lol or even someone that 5 foot tall 😂😂😂 I've probably only seen a few over 6 foot 7 unless they're playing basketball 😂 and maybe even less a person who is 5 foot tall without a genetic disorder😂

[@DirtyTalkTv]

Smaller guy always has the advantage because of speed, until the gap is over 40lbs then the advantage goes to bigger guy.

[@ekayn1606]

Yes, it does. But when it comes to street fights, if the smaller fighter has skills and the large guy doesn't they'll be some crazy upsets. I'm 5'10 155 pounds and beat the fuck out of this 6'4 220+ pound fat ass. (The story if you're interested) He was trying to bully a 15 year old boy, so I called him out. He started talking shit trying to punk me, so I roasted him so badly that his girlfriend laughed! Big Bro was so mad he took his shirt off and started pulling up his pants. He throws a wild left hook, I sidestep and throw a straight against his teeth (scraping my fingers). He stumbled back a little and glared at me with hate in his eyes. He charged again, but this time with a flurry of punches like he just watched an anime. He landed a few good shots to my ribs at first, but i discovered his range. I used footwork to stay out of his range and sniped with body shots every time he over extended until i landed a CLEAN uppercut that knocked the wind out of him.

[@TerrenceLP]

Size because of gravity 🎉

[@courtneygillespie1187]

I agree with Floyd..... size doesn't win fights..... fighting wins fights.... McGregor was bigger..... stronger faster younger but Floyd has the formula.

[@mannynuccio109]

Yes.

[@aximo1108]

the level of competition would rise 10 fold if no one cut weight and just fought within 10 lbs of their natural weight

[@sagesarabia5053]

Of course size matters. That’s why there’s weight classes