The Reasons for Female vs. Male Infidelity Explained by Evolutionary Psychologist David Buss

[@thijsjong]

I dont believe any study that depends on women selfreporting. Even when they participating anonymiously. They give socially acceptable answers or answer what they think other women answer.

[@russiaprivjet]

they can measure women’s physiological responses to male images. they don’t need self reported data

[@Stranger_In_The_Alps]

The blue hairs won’t like this one chief

[@ssuuppeerrbbooyy]

You can remove the word women from that statement.

[@Ikilledthebanks]

And we allow them to vote, jk voting makes no real difference

[@MrRicky175]

​@@Ikilledthebanks based

[@chrismanning1171]

I need to thank the guy that cheated with my exwife and married her. It hurt at first but I got over it. Eighteen months later my exwife tried to sleep with me when I went to see my kid. Her husband was away in the military and I told her hell no. Found out he left her and filled for divorce. What was he thinking marrying a cheater. I am sure he caught her and saw signs of cheating just like I did. Now I am married to a great women, we have a kid, and we are doing well financially.

[@Keviekev115]

Ultimate karma. All men need to remember this. Key is like you did, keep improving. Don’t let the break up destroy your confidence and life

[@nathangreyism]

Amen brother… but keep them antennae up

[@northerncrozz8449]

i had a kid with a women who admitted to cheating before i even gave her the ring. She swore up and down that she'd never do it again and it was so aweful..i was too in love with this beautiful woman (i liked her accent too) that i ignored the red flags...she indeed did not learn and cheated on my around the time our son turned 1. She hasnt been able to hold down a man since (3 years later). Once a cheater, always a cheater i fully believe now

[@corysmith3447]

monogomy doesnt work because humans are not lifelong monogous and men have always cheated the only differnce is wom@n cheating rates have increased significantly along with divorce rates

[@AInfusedNetwork]

And admitted he still doesn’t have all the answers either 🤣 no one will ever understand

[@toddmullins2031]

My first wife almost killed me with her infidelities! Seriously messed my head up for longtime. Wife number 2 has made everyday heaven on earth ! Never give up guys , I almost did and almost all !

[@omarct]

Is because the second wife is already retired from the game. Aka she is older

[@f.dmcintyre4666]

Hey Todd may I ask if you could have picked that trait in your first wife's personality when you first knew her?......Was it obvious now looking back ?...........Blessings.......

[@toddmullins2031]

Looking back , I found out that her father had an affair on her mother so she definitely had daddy issues.

[@kellykirk4244]

@omarct No, some women are quality, loyal wives even when young and some are lying cheaters even when old. Same with men.

[@kellykirk4244]

@toddmullins2031 Same! My ex husband was a serious serial cheater. And I was very loyal. I also found out his father cheated on his mom many times as well. I guess they think it’s normal and acceptable. He was shocked I divorced and didn’t just keep going to therapy while we continued the cycle. I’m also remarried and life is way more peaceful

[@donhurley5584]

It all comes down to discipline. If you’re attractive it’s even more difficult because you will be tempted. Having the strength to say “no” to someone who you are attracted to because you are already in a relationship will be difficult but it’s your duty to do so. It’s not just relationships, it’s everything in life. You sacrifice fun for studies and career, you sacrifice tasty food to stay fit, you sacrifice fun to raise children. It’s not super natural people you just have to be strong and learn to not cave to every damn desire that comes your way. If you cheat, you’re weak. It’s strength and discipline, very simple.

[@CarolinaGarcia-pq6qs]

This is the best answer

[@adversus76]

Excellent answer

[@Benbjamin-]

Rubbish

[@brandonrobertkersjes]

Agreed.

[@KazhnaLightfoot]

There are many people out there that are simply not attracted to others while in love with someone. I'm like that. So cheating wouldn't even be a possbility on my end. Have broke it off with girls who confessed their attractions towards other guys. If you're romantically and / or physically attracted to others while in a commited relationship then bye bye 👋🏼

[@shawnkiesel5349]

Don't cheat on your partner, it's causes severe mental distress.. if you don't want to be with the person just break up

[@JEREMY99218]

Women don't think like that. They act on emotion before rationality.

[@frenchonion4595]

It's mostly the alcohol that's the problem

[@BFaluup]

@@JEREMY99218 that’s because our society doesn’t have punishments in place like we have for men…If you’re married and she does it you should be able to divorce without giving her anything..something where she realizes she will have consequences and decide she shouldn’t

[@scottg.1776]

Amen to that!

[@sarahrobertson634]

@@JEREMY99218 Don't be an incel, Jeremy.

[@KungFuChess]

" A male friend to a woman is a dick in a glass case.. in case of emergency break glass" - Chris Rock

[@bernardwinkletoes4981]

i realized this about some of my female friends... had to cut them off out of respect for their husbands

[@stevesalt2921]

Superb!!!

[@ericknabenshue5689]

Emergency? Male friend equals good dick without commitment. Like he explained. Women want stability and taken care of. The male friend is either someone who can't provide or is not willing to commit.

[@PhonkEcho]

@@bernardwinkletoes4981 My friend with benefits got married and tried to keep our thing going. The look of despair in her husband's face when she invited me to one of their parties made me cut all communication.

[@camelnut7014]

@@bernardwinkletoes4981 what did you realize, did they try something with you?

[@Khetsisal33]

This man made a whole career in studying the foreign and incomprehensible species known as women, mad respect.

[@richardb8104]

Maybe there is something to gender studies courses....

[@makatron]

And still didn't get how his wife was mad, probably 😂

[@sage1261]

I think you mean sub-species

[@djpuplex]

And still found a way to make excuses for why they cheat.

[@theblackenedphoenix]

And he's failed miserably.

[@JRA73]

Never understood why people cheat on each other, if your unhappy.....end the relationship. It's happened to me, I walked away without feeling any anger, betrayal, hurt or wanting vengeance.

[@johnamaya2641]

Did you learn what the Dr said he says.

[@Ashnesss]

I rejected a guy I didn’t even know. He never approached me. He harassed, stalked, bullied, held me back and locked me in the house for years. Never knew him. Never dated him. Never liked him. He wasted 7 years of my life for NOTHING! He was in my way, removing everything that brought me happiness. Intruded in my love life, social life, job prospects and every minute thing. He told my friends not to see me or invite me. And they didn’t. He hacked my mobile. He talks about MGTOW but he was in my way, at the expense of his own progress. He literally created a criminal record for himself.

[@mfawls9624]

Women often cheat out of resentment. Well, they fester resentment, let it build to anger then to entitlement and victimhood THEN they cheat and feel no need for remorse. It's a process that results in accountability only being placed on the guy they cheated on.

[@andrewcontreras5528]

But if you listen to clip, typically men don't have to be unhappy to cheach

[@nodruj8681]

This is all made up@@Ashnesss

[@redness1924]

Hey Doc, it's called monkey branching and some meathead explained it to me 10 years ago. Monkeys never let go of one branch until they're holding onto another branch that can support them.

[@darbyohara]

😂 so funny that any guy out here dating knew all this shit 10+ years ago The egg heads finally catching up acting like they discovered electricity 😂

[@Lucky-sh1dm]

This is exactly why university and these professors are the greatest jokes on this earth. They spend years of their lives observing, collecting data and writing thesis’s on the machinations of this world that any normal blue collar person could summate in like 3 sentences. They are the greatest frauds ever.

[@elcorado83]

Theres a lot of rubbish justifying females cheating on men lately. How pathetic we have become.

[@sssnipermonkey5566]

Aka Female Hypergamy/MaleHypergamy

[@tanyanicely4341]

I use this analogy for women as well. On the other hand men have dog bowling. A dog will turn up his nose to a healthy bowl of food (a great gal) until another dog comes in and starts eating it. Then it's the best dish on the menu and it's all they can think about.

[@donnyrockett7490]

Joe Rogan: "Sir can you hold on for 1 second. Jamie, find out what my wife is doing right now"

[@vladrileynavilys]

Yeah, pull her up Jamie please.

[@hulkangry5546]

😂😂😂

[@djjukeboxhero6491]

😂😂😂

[@oiitzME1266]

Sends his security team of ex.navy seals to get her

[@nostalgicbliss5547]

Fuckin a bear

[@skanda1832]

When I learned about this subject matter while studying Biology in college, it permanently tainted my ability to fully embrace romance and relationships, having seen how fundamentally primal and opportunistic the game is.

[@LovelyHick]

You just need one who doesnt do things just because they feel like it then and there, its not uncommon past your teens

[@mattbritzius570]

Since Ancient Greece people have been trying to thwart their animal nature. There’s good reason for it, because it can yield far greater rewards than succumbing to baser instincts.

[@scottlong5105]

Men are primal, and women are fundamental to making a good man. The thing people dont talk about anymore is what makes a good woman. People now believe a man can be one. But it's visa versa because a good man creates a good woman, and a good woman creates a good man. Mother's and fathers creating stoic and balanced people by role.

[@agape843]

Welcome to reality

[@jakeedwards4454]

@@mattbritzius570 it’s impossible

[@GayFrogsTho]

If they'll cheat for you, they'll cheat on you.

[@SpiralKingJah]

Debatable lol

[@reginaldbowls7180]

@@SpiralKingJahmy GF has admitted to cheating on every single one of her former partners after she admitted to cheating on me.

[@ASHOLE.80]

@@reginaldbowls7180 Spots and leopards

[@johnnylego807]

Players get played……

[@johnnylego807]

Oh , and also, “No loyalty among thieves”

[@jordanzylstra7913]

Nowadays, I'd say social media is one of the main problems. Makes everything so easy for those willing.

[@djjukeboxhero6491]

*for women

[@jasonolinger7585]

easy for the top 10% of men and the top 90% of women

[@TheArtonSlo]

Makes everything easy for women. It has been devastating for a larger group of lonely men.

[@kaj7135]

@@jasonolinger7585 100% accurate.

[@felixf4378]

Makes it so easy for women. My ex would post one picture and would get tons of thirsty as men messaging her. When we broke up she responded to some of these messages. The catch is that they usually don't get loyal, honest, men. They usually get fucked and throw out by dudes on Instagram. Happened to my ex.

[@madmatt6454]

Found out my wife has been having a affair for four months. Kicked her out and got the house and primary custody of kids. 😎

[@bleach8600]

congrats on custody dude!

[@hinds7424]

👏🏼

[@EvilMAiq]

Now she can become a strong independent woman!

[@047Kenny]

Very rare win for all males.

[@SoCloseToToast]

@@EvilMAiq Losing your kids and not having a home is the opposite of Independent lol She's just going to be dependent on others and hurt them down the line

[@ChooseLoveToday316]

This man has a kind, gentle yet strong way about him. I recently became a father and strive every day to carry myself in this manner.

[@annagarcia1527]

Congrats. My daughters dad use to be an uptight A hole but when she was born, he softened. I bet your child has a great dad

[@EvilMAiq]

He's like if Ted Danson was a scientist

[@tomevers6670]

He doesn’t explain things as clearly as others. He seems to be in a brain fog. I think it’s because Joe has had so much smarter people on here that can explain better.

[@Peccadilliano]

​@@EvilMAiq or Jesse Eisenberg

[@chief5981]

Yeah, but women are leaving this guy for better genes and mating opportunities 👀

[@POVskimboarding]

It’s honestly the name of the game. Dating is probably the most primal thing about being a human being. I’ve had girls break up with guys to be with me, and I’ve had the same girl leave me for a new guy. They are brutal and it’s at a primal level. It’s almost like they can’t even control it. It has always caused me to remain cautious and pretty much avoid becoming too attached or emotionally invested into any woman.

[@itamaramati]

Thats sad

[@sidhnaagambedkar5419]

Is it really like that ...I find so many women living with mates much lower than them on socio economic strata ...Women usually do not do that in happy marriages

[@itamaramati]

when you stop chasing women that's when women start chasing you @@sidhnaagambedkar5419

[@itamaramati]

im so high rn

[@TexasTeaHTX]

@@sidhnaagambedkar5419You miss the part of the video about genes and the dual mating strategy. Women can be attracted to a provider but not necessarily sexually and on the other hand if a guy has good genes but he’s broke he’s still going to clap cheeks.

[@hartsy50]

My neighbor ran around on his wife, even named his first child after his girlfriend, then found out his wife had been running around on HIM the whole time. Sad for their two kids.

[@chickentoucher55]

@@glorifygod1480 your not going to convince anyone by copy and pasting bible versus in KZbin comments

[@kaj7135]

Most people who get married should never marry anybody. Just a simple truth.

[@nicksam305]

​@@chickentoucher55 Jai gaand ji ki

[@MsChitterchat]

That first child might have been the other guy’s!

[@richardsheeran7425]

People sure you stole Adam Levine story about his mistress lol

[@brandonofviolet]

Can't believe my professor is on JRE. haha Hell yea Dr. Buss. His book is "The Evolution of Desire"

[@andersonwonder9357]

I crossed referenced you ip addresses location and then your previous home addresses. You weren’t ever near this man a day in your life

[@Our.nostalgia657]

​@@andersonwonder9357😂😂😂😂

[@thehypocriticalcynic9182]

5:30 Thanx Joe! They didnt talk to random women for years to conduct that, "study." When he said that women have more to lose, if caught cheating...i think he may have been speaking about biblical times or conventional women? His research is b.s. or N/A!

[@rizzamaeong]

his book is "Evolutionary Psychology" its abiut the animal kingdom and mating.

[@atxbee]

I loved taking his human sexuality class at UT, still one of my favorites!

[@paulcashion8049]

It's just lust and an inability to control yourself for both male and female. It's not strategic or thought out. You're either a decent person who can control yourself and keep your promises and commitments or you're not.

[@MrWackozacko]

A simple truth

[@liccivazquez5626]

I completely agree! People who truly love their spouse do not cheat.

[@mindhunter8772]

It's not that simple, there're so many variables In that arch of a situation or scenarios...

[@Demonsbane666]

​@@mindhunter8772 That is only the case if you throw away your moral compass to pick up a treasure map.

[@liccivazquez5626]

@@mindhunter8772 I believe insecurity is a variable. Some people are so convinced that their partner is/will cheat that they do it first.

[@HarryWhite-l3s]

It took me 14 years to catch my narcissistic wife. Of course, I didn’t know she was a narcissist back then. I didn’t even know what narcissism was. A part of me always knew that she wasn’t faithful to me. It was just that whenever I voiced my concerns or asked for some reassurance, there was hell to pay. She put me through a mental gauntlet of feigned outrage, moral indignation, gaslighting, and flipping reality on its head in order to make me the bad guy. She repeatedly set what little progress I had made in trying to have a good relationship with her, back to square one. She exploited my deepest desires-to have a good marriage and to keep our family together, by always keeping one foot out the door and threatening to leave. So, I learned to carefully pick my battles…. and worse. I learned to put the blinders on and to pretend that she wasn’t up to no good. I also learned to convince myself that I was the problem. And then one day, while she was at work, I decided to clean out the car. She had a nasty habit of treating the backseat like a dumpster. As I stuffed empty wrappers, bottles, and cups into a trash bag, I found an envelope with her name on it. Thinking it might be important, I decided to look at its contents before I threw it away. It was a letter from some guy who was clearly in love with her. He expressed how he wanted more from her than their secret rendezvous. There was no mistaking what he meant. Even though my heart was crushed, I regained my power in the very next moment. I drove to where she worked, and I angrily approached her. Her eyes fell on the letter in my hand, and her shoulders slumped in silent defeat. She quietly said, “I can’t talk right now, but I’ll be home in an hour.” “Good!” I replied. “I’ll be waiting!” Then I turned on my heel and stormed out the door. Now that the cat was out of the bag, she admitted the entire affair-including all the places where they would meet up. As difficult as that was to hear, I stood by, ready to forgive her. I was well-practiced in starting over from square one, and I eagerly waited for the opportunity to roll up my sleeves and to get to work. But she played the wounded victim as convincingly as Amber Heard, and she asked me to wait for two days while she decided what she should do. Of course, I said yes. Even though I had been married to her for 14 years, I still had no idea what I was dealing with. In the midst of that painful discussion, she was plotting her next move. It turned out that she needed two days to think because that’s when her boyfriend would return from his business trip. She wanted to be in a relationship with him, but when he refused to leave his wife for her, she decided to stay married to me. Of course, I didn’t know any of this at the time. I only knew that after two days, she decided to stay. Being the eternal optimist that I am, I saw this as an opportunity for a brand new start, and I convinced myself that we were finally going to have a good marriage. But she didn’t share my optimism, and it was obvious that her heart wasn’t in her decision to stay. We suffered together for another 2 weeks when she blamed me for her affair. That’s when I finally threw in the towel. We divorced on friendly terms, and we made all our own arrangements for custody and child support. We only needed a lawyer to draft and file the appropriate documents. The laws have changed since those days, and you can’t do that kind of stuff anymore. Anyway, during our many conversations to dissolve our marriage, she admitted lots of things that I didn’t know about-including the fact that she was never faithful to me. If I had understood narcissism back then, I would have handled things differently. I wouldn’t have put up with her mental abuse, and I would have left her years earlier. Additionally, If you suspect cheating or other forms of manipulation and need to gather evidence for your own peace of mind, you may consider reaching out for assistance. For more information, you can contact: MetaspyHub@gmail. com.

[@thiagolacerda5595]

Wow - just a very calculated marketing ploy. Imagine when this is all automated by AI.

[@nikkingman]

Omg no one cares

[@riceflatpicking4954]

You missed your best opportunity. I would have walked in her work after renting one of those electronic bullhorns, and read the letter to everyone there.

[@flyingark173]

Man this conversation is the epitome of why I love Joe Rogan. This guy is super interesting and we just get to listen in on a conversation that Joe would probably have in a private space, or really any one of us would have with this guy. Thanks for letting us all experience this conversation Joe

[@TheOriginalTroll]

@@gezenews 😂😂😂😂

[@JEREMY99218]

Dr. Buss has done a lot of great research but you need to read the Rational Male book series (by Rollo Tomassi) if you want some honest analysis and applications of this research. Dr. Buss has gotten some heat from feminists and other woke mobsters so he has to try to be politically correct.

[@inder605]

That’s why it’s called the joe rogan experience. It’s pretty amazing

[@treali]

One interesting hypothesis that pops up when hearing peoples reasoning for cheating is that men seems to be able to love women unconditionally. Men cheat because of their animalistic instincts, unconditioned by how their relationship is going. It's as if men are happy as long as they can protect their mate and the offspring and are willing to sacrifice their happiness. For women it's a bit opposite, if they don't feel love they cheat.

[@bitbyaturtle]

I do love love love my alt right podcasting!

[@John.117]

My grandmother used to say “women fall in love with their ears… Men with their eyes“

[@sole__doubt]

sounds like a smart lady.

[@Wakaflockaflank]

@@sole__doubt sounds entirely true to me. Although the beginning often can come from the eyes, though it’s less long lasting than a man’s “eye decisions”

[@TroubleshootGamingMeds]

That's why women wear makeup and men lie.

[@ottoginafiel5468]

Women aren't capable of love beyond their children, and some not even that.

[@goldilox369]

​@@ottoginafiel5468 that's just not true.

[@mitchdroese84]

I found out my wife was cheating on me last week, and it has devastated me. I had a home and a family, and now it's all been taken from me. How could someone I love so completely do something so horrible?

[@deondrepolk9119]

Leave

[@BobBob-rm7ry]

sorry to hear man, trust me it'll get bro

[@happyone9074]

Don’t turn back brother keep moving forward

[@Sneakdisscommentbelow]

Best advise is go be with whoever you want cause if your not cheating she will be or visa versa...

[@trumpisbackboi]

I hope she burn in hell brother.

[@nathanmarentette2032]

I’m a just stay single. It’s lonely sometimes but I have a great family, good friends, a house with just me in it that I can come and go as I please and I don’t have to worry about getting chewed out or cheated on. Sure it’s lonely, but my God, is it ever peaceful.

[@THI_EXTERNAL]

you're not lonely your just alone, lonely and alone are little different, it's great being alone these days though

[@wailingalen]

Bro I'm single and loving it

[@nelsonlourenco3781]

How about the adventure of life?

[@johnryan3622]

This has never been, and never will be a masculine thing to do. I understand why you like it, I’m not attacking you for it, I just want you to understand you’ll never be the man you could be without a wife and children. It’s the most rewarding thing you can do. It’s never been masculine to avoid risk. Can you get burned when you place trust in others? Of course. It happens in business, friendships, and relationships. But it’s your job to mitigate risk to reap reward. Don’t date or marry sluts. Don’t date or marry a woman because she’s hot, or pushes the right buttons in the bedroom. You’re not looking for a sex partner. You’re looking for a woman who will be there for you at your lowest, who will be the mother of your children. When you frame it like that, it’s easy to avoid the women that are inclined to infidelity. Then all you have to do to keep her is keep improving yourself, just like you should be doing anyway. It has never been masculine to avoid risk or sit out and not play the game. You’re robbing yourself of improvement, challenge, and the greatest rewards life has to offer. Again, I don’t say this to attack you, I hold no ill will to you. I say it because I’ve been on both sides and it saddens me to think of men who miss out. I want it for you and all good men. Cheers, brother.

[@ali-grizzly]

Evolution failure

[@jray1461]

A desire for sexual variety seems extremely embedded into my genetics. Comes sooo natural to me. Almost as if I am going against my very nature to just be with one woman. Yet I still choose to be with one woman and fight strongly against my impulses. I choose discipline. Too bad most other people can’t follow suit.

[@ArcaneEiro]

U either live life or the life lives you. Good luck ig

[@xgtwb6473]

So long as you set the expectation from the start of the relationship that cheating for men is normal and ok and cheating for women abhorrent, disgusting, then when you do cheat it's expected and they care much less. So long as you have your shit together and are respectful about it, she ain't gonna care if you have a side piece.

[@cervmeup]

@@ArcaneEiro 😂 foreal. Sounds bad but I think both men and women need to get it out of their system sooner than later.

[@luckyluckylucky2261]

@@xgtwb6473 what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. It is either wrong for both, or right for both.

[@samoriab5999]

I respect you sir

[@heatonjames2545]

I disagree with the premise that infidelity is more socially devastating for women than men. My first wife was unfaithful and after our divorce had a string of relationships including at least one more marriage which devolved. She has done very well for herself socially and financially. In fact. There are people in the community to this day who will not speak to me because they are convinced I was the villain. I find my type of story to be very common.

[@darbyohara]

Correct. Buss is looking at things historically and ignoring the reality today. A cheating woman can easily end up in a better position by monkey branching or moving to skirt the shame. And usually the man is blamed for the divorce. Men pay the real price, often financially devastated.

[@sudstahgaming]

This angers me, being punished for being loyal.

[@plasmoske]

My ex-wife cheated on me, and I discovered it like 7 months later. Initially I was the "bad guy" for neglecting and abusing her. Well in their eyes, my ex-wife was an angel and so, it couldn't have been her. Maybe I did something wrong? Rumors was going around saying maybe I beat her. Or cheated. Or neglected her. Nope. I was 100% faithful, loyal and looked after her and her family. I never shouted at her and was always open/nice. One day I just had enough and I just told her family and her friend the truth about what happened. Eg. me discovering this and that, and her talking to multiple men. Sleeping with them. Skipping work to be with them. Because I had helped them so much over the years and was always nice and honest to them, they believed me. They couldn't believe their daughter/friend had cheated. Now she is dating some rich businessman, who is also cheating on his wife with her. That was last I heard 2-3 years ago. My ex for the first year of divorce, still kept messaging me and trying to act like friends. Telling me everything. I put a stop to that and said no we can't be friends. I wanted to move on. Not be an emotional wreck every time she messaged me. I loved her and probably still do. But the woman I loved no longer exists. She has now completely changed, visually (brown to blonde hair now, lost weight, wears more revealing clothes now) and mentally different. Maybe she had always wanted to be a ho but couldn't while in a marriage. One thing though, she was a sex addict and would demand it daily. If she couldn't get it daily, she would get pissed off. Maybe this had something to do with it. Not to say that women with high sex drive can be cheaters, but I've also dated a girl in the past with also a similar sex drive. Also ended up cheating. Now I'm kind of wary of girls with high sex drives lol. The girl I'm currently with, has a regular sex drive and does not demand it daily.

[@karljonson3287]

You disagree with the premise cause of your anegdotal story

[@plasmoske]

@@karljonson3287 How is cheating socially devastating for the woman? Her friends don't need to know that she cheated. She already got her reasons and can just tell them anything. Same with her family. If she found a more better man (financially, social status and appearance), then she essentially upgraded without much damage being caused.

[@Silence_Duder_Gooder]

When men cheat, women say "there is no excuse big enough to cheat on your wife!" But when women cheat, women say, "What did he do to make her cheat on him?" THE END.

[@RR-et6zp]

he needs rollo tomassi

[@alexanderlionhart284]

One sided

[@AngryDad.]

​@@alexanderlionhart284 duh. That's how women are lol

[@larry7868]

This is a very good observation.

[@themysticfedora]

@@larry7868 it’s called a generalization bud

[@heatison11]

My brothers ex wife cheated on him and filed for divorce, fast forward 15 years shes now about 80 lbs overweight, broke living with her parents, and my nephew said she got arrested for DUI 😂😂😂, oh its music to my ears, I never liked her anyway

[@johnnylego807]

As JoJo Siwa said. “Karmas a BEITCH”

[@gungun5845]

Lets goo

[@MrLopez-lm4jk]

They don't care theres always simps that will smash them

[@KFrost-fx7dt]

And then everyone clapped.

[@porsupuesto13]

When you're a grown mature adult, you learn to communicate and end the relationship rather than cause drama. Cheating is not the answer and doesn't correct things, just hurts the other person.

[@jasonolinger7585]

Some people who feel disrespected or belittled by their partner intentionally cheat to hurt them. You are looking at it from a neutral perspective and relationships are not always neutral.

[@kaj7135]

Say that again louder for the women to hear.

[@KidPoe]

Because they want to have their cake and eat it too. Some people are just narcissistic. They also have little to no respect for their partner’s intelligence because they think that their partner is too stupid to find out.

[@GigaNietzsche]

@@KidPoe The vast majority of women are narcissists if that's the case

[@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom]

@@kaj7135 But mostly for the MEN to hear, since they cheat significantly MORE than women do.

[@funkspinna]

Women don't cheat. They get "entangled". LOL.

[@Kenny-Ross]

Yes! It's always something else or someone's fault. Accountability is their kryponite!

[@pgtw2376]

No -they cheat too! I certainly don’t understand this at all! Married over 40 -never unfaithful. Life is difficult because we humans complicate everything.

[@redbaron5308]

@@pgtw2376he’s just joking and making a reference to Jada Smith.

[@xo007_]

@@pgtw2376 went right over your head...

[@nataliefernandez6260]

😂 lmao omg

[@nawtfeelingthis1932]

From my limited life experience, the male vs. female reasons for infidelity that David describes here is a hundred percent right. One female that I used to know comes to mind because she never ended a relationship, instead of breaking up with a guy she just moved on to someone new, but she made sure it was obvious to old guy that there was a new sheriff in town. I watched her do this a number of times.

[@beltalowda7897]

That is a POS thing to do to someone

[@FazeParticles]

I fully understand why the Arabs control female sexuality strictly. And I now agree with them largely. Westerners can cry about it.

[@celinamilian]

Trauma, simple! Daddy and mummy issues. And so does everyone have. All she had to do was forgive

[@jontay4199]

@@celinamilian it goes back to simple biology, maybe not in the OPs case but most women are very agreeable, breaking up with someone is ugly, painful, and the dumper has the burden of being portrayed as the bad guy. Most Women would rather cut off a finger than put themselves in that position, plus in the interim of breaking up to getting a new guy, they need a place to stay, as most women can’t or don’t support themselves- so they cheat. It’s like ripping off the band aid (and slapping the man while you do it), but many women can rationalize it enough that it feels easier than just breaking up. Same reason guys will break up over a text- easier. It’s 1000% better than cheating, but to women, there may as well be no difference at all.

[@NinjaRunningWild]

She just sounds like a sociopath with insufficient self-esteem to weather being single for a short time.

[@squall1410]

In all my life never heard story of anyone who cheated had great future romantic relationships. They either cheated again on the new partner or got cheated on. Don't do it or stay away from relationships, SIMPLE.

[@liamrmorgans921]

Something i dont see mentioned much is the FEAR of being cheated on. Both men and women obviously have this fear, a strategy to protect ones heart is to remain in a state of mind that keeps your defences up, that state of mind makes you less bonded to the person so it’ll hurt less if cheated on, but also makes you more likely to then cheat yourself. Ive know many people that seem to me to be using this strategy

[@dm1972]

no fear. free pass to move on.

[@tommckellen4289]

First off, let me say I'm not denying the importance of fidelity in many key senses. However, unconsciously, people like Rogan, look at things in an overly deontological way. This is a Western Jedeo Christian malaise and is demonstrative of a lack of comprehension of the true higher God and spirit. (yet the West tends to distort things which are deontologically irrevocable, such as your biology). Of course, there is a positive side to the deontological quest, as this guest makes many rational, well researched points. It's merely that it's also necessary to have grey areas and 'the open cup ready to be filled'. Deontological thinking without explanation, nuance or unending new possibility, is also a sign of diminished IQ (think rednecks who can only repeat Bible verses with the epistemology that 'its true because it's true' rationale). In other words, the Western Judaic deontological quest (although I'd suggest the pre Christian Western ancients had a far more advanced thinking methodology) can be to generate an unending stream of rules merely as a way to prop up your sense of self. You are a hero in your own mind, and sometimes other people's minds (those with a diminished IQ) merely if you can say 'I made this rule, and it's a rule because it's cool' and boy oh boy does this allow extremists to come up with some bonkers rules. 'You can't say XYZ about XYZ group and this absolutely, deontologically true' as is one Woke idea, for example, which I would strongly suggest comes from Yahwism, the irony being that so many Yahwist cultures consider themselves to be 'free thinking'. Clue, they are often not as free thinking as they believe. At all. This is also why most of the world see the West as 'preachy' but simultaneously hypocritical. It's because anyone can make a set of rules which sets someone up (for warfare, regime change, cancelling etc) whilst you yourself nonchalantly break a whole array of other what might be arbitrary rules, which another person could easily ad hoc generate, as a form of 'superiority chess'. Now, this may seem a controversial place to say it, on a video about relationships and fidelity, an area where a certain degree of deontology is not bad, but it's nonetheless the case that Yahwism (the unconscious thinking pattern behind much Western thinking including both woke and far right philosophy) cannot handle nuance. What if a couple decides to have an open relationship, for example, and neither feels and remorse or distaste for the situation? Certainly from a Yahwist 'traditional' perspective, this can't be possible (in fact, such a thing would be punishable by stoning when Jawism was at it's barbaric apex). What about Pagan times when people followed far looser conceptions of god, with regards to relationships, which never meant that wedlock nor out of wedlock relationships were a sign of moral impropriety (the opinion most sane people hold today) People will say I am presenting a 'liberal' perspective by saying that not all people want to be in the same style of relationship, or that I am poo pooing traditionalism, but this is idiocy. Not everything is and/or, that's this hypocritical Western deontology for low IQ individuals. I'd imagine that Rogan is aware, for example, that many countries following the strong Judaic deontological quest, believe that pot smokers should be severely punished (time in prison and in certain circumstances, execution). The point is not what is correct/incorrect on this particular topic. Of course, cheating is hurtful if it is two people together who have made a strong bond of commitment. Of course traditional coupling is the very bread and butter of one generation spawning another. This is NOT my key point. My point is more general in observation of the pattern of many 'unravelling the Matrix' Western social media commentators. Rogan, like others, is part of the malaise of Yahwist thinking (unconsciously of course) which is the progenitor philosophy of both woke and extreme right ideology. In Yahwist cultures, saying 'I came up with this new rule' is the peak of showing your status (ironic when the Yahwist cultures tend to have 'belief in discussion' high on their list of ideals) Can an evolutionary biologist help people to stay together and love eachother for all eternity? It might happen, but God (the real God) is God. It is more nuanced and is seeking more understanding than you think than mere rules.

[@BaphoMedia]

@@arianebennion he will do it again. Once a cheater cheats a big portion of the time they will again. I know this because I’ve done it myself sadly. I regret it insanely but I know each person is different but on average they will cheat again. It sucks and I hate myself for what I myself did years back but there’s times where you have to look at the bigger picture and learn to cut the line before it gets worse

[@kellyschafer8873]

@@BaphoMedia In some cases yes but not all once it sets into reality that a man will lose his children and ruin everything he was worked for to complete his family I believe some men can turn it around and change

[@tonytrinidad4409]

Yup. I’m starting The FuckFest 2023 soon 4 that exact reason. I’m going after her people & my fake friends wives. Fuck’emAll. In my mine & I have heard 3rd person I’m loyal trustworthy friend “he’s never done me no wrong”. Now I regret that with most. At the very least i should of done all their women that offered it, grabbed the slong “accidentally “ while looking 4 remote. 19 out of 20 would of done it to me. Now I’m 49 & feel i missed out on living. Ex. I’m waiting on wife on the side to give me some. Looks like cocoNutt oil safe sex me. Anyways put a tracker in her car and forget about it

[@bobbyjoe9328]

The mate switching is totally true. My fiancée monkeybranched and then cheated on me. She was talking to him for months and then had the affair, about zero sympathy for me after the fact

[@AngryDad.]

@@Robot50000 it's because they plan it months ahead of time

[@user-lr9cw9bb3k]

Nice. Such is the beauty of love. It is fleeting. Like life, the best parts of it are temporary.

[@adox8574]

You dodge a bullet dude but also no woman who cheats is actually sorry some just pretend

[@AnthonyDoesYouTube]

​@@Robot50000all my life basically at this point it's actually frightening how cold and heartless they can be when they decide they are "over" you

[@kirby-ll2jl]

We are all just animals & it’s just mating. Loving someone is the same as getting used to someone. It’s all it is imo. Take your heart out of it. Focus on creating a craft that can travel the speed of light so we can explore the universe further out.

[@sasha51a286]

Made myself listen to the whole podcast and was pleasantly surprised! "Accepting the data even when it goes against your narrative"- Great statement! This conversation was so refreshing.

[@RR-et6zp]

he needs rollo tomassi

[@Skelstoolbox]

how does listening to human, especially female nature go against your narrative? Facts get too real there for you?

[@Vlad_Kalashnik]

So what have you learned about women?

[@BrokenElegance]

This guy also has great books!

[@againstdrivingdrunk614]

A lot of data made up by the swindler scientists college funded: lies because depending on how you look at data results and time… It’s manipulation of data. There’s a name for it…. And you can easily sense who the pathetic adults are Once you get older… And the chicks can too, and they will cheat on them… We all know this game

[@zaxbitterzen2178]

The biggest problem with humanity as a whole is it's almost impossible to quantify pettiness, spite and selfishness from person to person until its too late. The more we internalize such negative aspect's absent the ability to reflect on their inherent dangers the more toxic we become. This is legit how many documented serial killers are created both male and female.

[@arnavrawat9864]

What do you mean "internalise negative aspects, absent the ability to reflect on them"?

[@colbalt95]

What? Serial deleters and stuff like selfishness are 2 different things. One is a phyco that made it into a craft likely emotionless and the other are emotional impulses

[@GlorifiedGremlin]

Man I love explaining modern human behavior by looking back at evolution and our time as hunter gatherers. It makes everything make so much more sense, it fits all the puzzle pieces in place

[@Pontif11]

Does it really though? A good amount of stuff can be explained sure but evolutionary explanations always feel lacking when not paired with social explanations. At different points In history atractive has meant different things. We've gone from heavier women to the coke adict models amd actresses of the 90s and 2000s, from head to toe coverings to bikinis. Human advancement in society, technology and medicine adds too much to leave explanations to just evolutions.

[@GlorifiedGremlin]

@@Pontif11 Well I think the two are very closely interwoven with one another. Society and sociological interaction evolved alongside our physical evolution. Society was molded BY our instincts and inherent nature that we tend to tamp down today. Our sexual dimorphism alone has had an astronomical impact on sociology and society. Ignoring the absurdity of the last decade or so, our gender roles were what allowed us to divide and conquer, and become so successful. It gave us our power. And it strengthened the selective pressure for bonding and close-knit communities, all of which directly lead to virtually all societal structures ever since

[@GlorifiedGremlin]

@@Pontif11 And while the general idea of beauty on a societal level has changed, I think the ideal woman has been constant for thousands of years. Child bearing hips, a healthy strong frame, a big enough chest to produce adequate milk for children, etc etc. It all leads back to that eventually. Our attraction has utility, just like all of our other emotions and feelings

[@Pontif11]

@@GlorifiedGremlin its not a last few decades thing. As soon as people have enough wealth whatever is imformed by evolution loses ground. The evolutionary ideal man or woman hasn't been relevant for royals for hundreds if not thousands of years. The only novelty of the last hundred years is that the wealth that was only in the domain of royalty before has expanded down to even the poor of developed nations. Regardless, what has been atractive historically isn't really relevant to me now in modern times and every thing you described is the ideal woman is far from the rule now. Neither is the evolutionary ideal man. Joe brought up two great examples of men that are considered very atractive to women that aren't close to being the same type of guy, Jason Mamoa and Harry Styles. You can't have both of those guys being comparable with just natural explanations.

[@by9diz8]

All "psychology" is "evolutionary psychology"

[@BobBob30966]

The reason infidelity runs rampant has much to do with programming. Specifically every single tv series and movie depicts affairs as exciting and thrilling for those involved and a bored man or women watching will try and act it out for themselves. I got all my cheating out of the way in highschool and learned not to do it because it's awful. Don't get me started on all the tv shows and movies that depict murder much the same.

[@jayg5699]

Well said, social media is also a big factor

[@BobBob30966]

@@jayg5699 very very true

[@nostalgicbliss5547]

Especially for women. They have a groupie mindset and most literally copy everything they see on TV. They believe life should be a TV show like sex and the city lol.

[@nicole5436]

Nah not normal

[@m.g.6394]

I agree except for the murder part. There's a HUGE difference between watching a TV show that glorifies cheating by portraying it as exciting and watching a movie where a detective solves a murder case. I watch a show called "Bones" where detectives solve murder cases. I don't feel the need to murder anyone.

[@santaclaus3077]

The Evolution of Desire is one of my favorite books. Excited for this one!

[@KatherineGrey-pz9on]

It took 5 years for my marriage to end. 5 long years. Why were the years so long? Something started to happen that I never saw coming. He was controlling, verbally abusive and then…physically abusive. I came home one day and he was messing with the cat. I tried to stop him and he grabbed me by the throat and threw me across the room. He then threw the cat against the wall and broke her leg. She went to live with my parents after that. I could've told my parents but I didn't. I don't know why. After that it continued. I was punched, clawed, was constantly being yelled at about how I was fat, stupid, I didn't have a real job (I was a teacher) and so on. He told me that if it were legal he'd kill me. That was it. I kept saying that I wanted to get a divorce. He said he'd take our son if I did. But one day he said “fine, if you want a divorce then get a divorce.” I did, he tried to get back with me but I showed him the door after one night together. That's the reason I got a divorce. Thankfully it “only” lasted 5 years. No spouse should EVER have to go through that!! Additionally, If you're considering hiring a private investigator for proof of infidelity in a divorce case, Barry Investigations could be the right choice. By contacting them at Barryinvestigation@gmail. com, you can work with experienced professionals to uncover the truth. Make sure to discuss your legal rights and responsibilities, establish clear boundaries, and follow the investigator's guidelines to ensure a successful and discreet investigation.

[@silvio4880]

Cerca de 40% dos casais italianos não mantêm relações sexuais, principalmente por causa do desinteresse do homem. Pesquisa no Reino Unido da BBC 65% dos homens que tem casamento de 15 anos só fazem sexo em média de 3 vezes ao ano. Pesquisa: 47% dos casais japoneses fazem sexo apenas uma vez por mês. Uma pesquisa no Japão, 47,2% dos homens e mulheres casados disseram que estavam em casamentos sem sexo. A maioria dos homens casados se masturba quase todos os dias e por isso faz sexo uma vez por mês porque: no ato sexual faz muito esforço tentando ter orgasmo porque o órgão sexual da mulher é muito frouxo, muito elástico e muito oco. A maioria dos homens casados faz sexo uma vez por mês porque se masturba quase todos os dias porque: no ato sexual faz muito esforço tentando ter orgasmo porque o órgão sexual da mulher é muito frouxo, muito elástico e muito oco.

[@alexvdubb]

So what this guy is saying is...."she belongs to the streets"

[@raminrouchi9938]

A lady in the bed but a freak in the street.

[@djjukeboxhero6491]

You are a scholar and a poet

[@raminrouchi9938]

@@djjukeboxhero6491 didn't even know it

[@KFrost-fx7dt]

She's homeless?

[@CujoHyer]

I was born with cancer that has left my eyes asymetrical after radiation treatment, and I have no money. I'm blind now as of two years ago, and I live with my 82 year old mother. Ladies. Give me a ring.

[@sethmaginnipig1801]

Work par time at a gym. Eat protein discounted from said gym. And eat healthy food (not expensive) lift weights. Haircut and other grooming things. Educate yourself. Do this, and you’ll give yourself a much better shot. With love ❤️

[@sethmaginnipig1801]

Or wait for the singularity and upload yourself into the matrix and take over the people that betrayed you and teach them a lesson

[@CujoHyer]

@@sethmaginnipig1801 I have a airdyne exercise bike, and an olympic weight bench. it's all I do anymore. it's all I have left, really. I'm a beacon of positivity, look out. I might run you over. Or, I might walk in to a wall, one of the two.

[@thatsjohnnyt6480]

@@sethmaginnipig1801 “eat protein from gym” just really dumpsters your entire speech bro lol like what?

[@6spdkeg]

I dated a chic that was bi-polar. She cheated on me first. beautiful 5'10, athletic women. She became addicted to attention and the D. After we broke up, she cheated on several of her BFs with me. She was probably one of the worst mistakes of my life dating her into college. My dad warned me of her bi-polar and I ignored it. He said to move on. I did not. Little did I know, he failed to tell me that he was diagnosed with bi-polar as well. She got wild. I mean real wild. paid for her mistakes in many ways but also fell vitcim to rape a couple times and never prosecuted. now she raises a LGBTQ trans girl. girl wanting to be a guy. whatayaknow... . I only post this because people need help. spot it early. get them help. be supportive or move on if you can't and let someone else in that can. Don't drag it out as you'll just hurt both parties.

[@Irishbib]

Bit weird bro

[@fetus2280]

Thats why I taught my son to think with his Brain and not his Dick . All i had to do was point out his Mother and how bad choices can result in a Lifetime of grief and abuse .

[@dsm060]

Damn man, your may not realize it but your anecdote can be read as insulting to a whole bunch of people. your story is insulting to your dad who has Bipolar disorder, to the young woman you dated and suffered from bi polar disorder, (some would say you may have taken advantage of her manic states by contributing to her infidelity of her other partners, knowing whay you already knew) and finally you are implying that being LGBTQ and a child looking to transition is on the some diagnosis spectrum as bipolar disorder. Im sorry this woman whom was suffering from a very chaotic disorder hurt you and left a great deal of trauma on your heart but try to be respectful of someone'sebtal health.

[@lucaviberti7516]

I had a relationship with a bipolar woman, I know your pain. It was a terrible period of my life.

[@brothernorb8586]

There's not much hope for help. Get away before bad things happen to you

[@alexsalazar5161]

An evolutionary psychologist just confirmed what I already know. Sometimes you don't need statistics or studies to be done for what you can see with your own eyes.

[@haidaralmohsen4408]

I was surprised when Joe asked his guest, 'so what causes this behavior...', and the guest says 'we don't know..'. My first wife was VERY narcissistic, overly so...and she was an exhibitionist and cheated A LOT (I found out later). I knew her 'background', her family, her school years behavior...and I can answer the question...and after her, found that most LIKE HER have the same issue: Her mother was a 'devoted feminist' to the point, men were 'a lowly life form', and my ex not only aspired to be 'just like mom', but learned from mom that 'she had a currency that all men would pay dearly for'. Well, we all know what happens to women who 'use the purse' to turn everything into a financial, personal-gain transaction...and by the time of our divorce, that was exactly what she had become...narcissism is self-defeating. You WANT to be 'recognized' for your beauty, your ability, your intelligence...but used as currency, you become ugly, nasty, good for only one thing, and ignorant; as a result. Now days, we have social media to make the trip MUCH FASTER, but the end result is still the same. To young men, I advise them to 'date' not marry for a while...and ALWAYS watch for 'bedroom intimacy' to become 'boring', 'a gifting situation' (where it is used as a 'reward' for expected behavior...good dog!), or any opportunity to 'better' you in social circles...you are dealing with a Narcissist, and can expect the single, same outcome, in the end...being thought of as a 'pen-kept swine' for her betterment.

[@WorldInspiring]

Dude, don't give advice to young men. You failed. You didn't know going into it, you didn't know how to navigate it when you were in it, you didn't know how to exit it without everything falling apart. Blaming her for 'being' a narcissist helps no one. Reducing dating down to 'watch for when she only has sex with you when you've done something she likes' or 'watch out if she cares about you behaviour around others' is not clear advice to young men on how to suss out whether or not she has narcissistic personaility disorder. The fact that you say that shows how little you dug into narcissim outside 'she's evil' paradigm. I'm so sick of you armchair psychologists.

[@shanemurphy7277]

Your exactly right, and I don’t care what anyone says. Feminism and social media has turned MOST women into exactly how you described. I have seen it over and over, and no only in my own life. Don’t listen to this idiot in the first comment

[@daroaminggnome]

@@WorldInspiring Its also self-defeating at face value. OP knows damn well his younger self would never listen to someone like him posting on the internet, young dudes who've just barely figured out how to get laid ain't gonna let internet randos stop them. Teaching a generation how a man and woman should treat each other can only be done through years of example, ideally from your own parents. Anything beyond that is just dumb luck.

[@charismatic9467]

Great point, more people should look into antisocial personality disorders including narcissism, it explains almost every bad part of human society.

[@WorldInspiring]

@daroaminggnome Exactly. These complainers online are just relentless. They're just as sick as the women they complain about. Obsessed with sex like the women they want are obsessed with Instagram likes. Both rotten. Be a man. Become useful. Live morally. Serve others. Get a job. Quit all this shit about women divorce us, I can't get laid. Blah blah blah. Exhausting. Go do something useful with life.

[@dmtdude]

I think upbringing and belief systems for both males and females would play a major part. I believe the decision whether or not to have an affair would be determined by how much they respect, value and care about the other persons mental and emotional state.

[@samreplete1842]

I think the same way. I feel he's focusing too much in biology.

[@LindaC616]

Agreed

[@jomangeee]

a man can respect value and everything but if there is no s3x time to go nockn.. I only say that because ton of lame women out there expect the husbands to be hermits until they decide to have s3x in maybe 3-6-9 months, hon put up or shut up, if your husband wonders somewhere else you better be understanding

[@KD400_]

​@@jomangeee sexless Marriages r so common now

[@knowwhatimeme]

I believe thou shalt not commit adultery 😇

[@sudstahgaming]

Anything that creates mistrust is a bad decision because it cripples so many other positive possibilities.

[@nikkilovesrocks]

That's what is known & still risked to fulfill a personal goal.

[@bluesslider76]

Been there. If it happened now being older and wiser I wouldn’t shed a tear. People do what they do. I’d move right on. Life’s short.

[@mikeanthony7847]

Cant wait till i reach that point

[@tillman40]

Would we even mess with women if we couldn’t have sex with them? - Patrice

[@darbyohara]

The goat

[@Stranger_In_The_Alps]

We need him now more than ever

[@smokingcrab2290]

If we couldn't have sex with them, they'd literally be the bottom feeders of society. Lower than animals

[@LeRoiDeLaBoxe]

lmaooo

[@blooeyedtigger3145]

Gaaay

[@cygnusrays]

People make the mistake of marrying people that are prepared to have sex before actually getting to know each other. Enduring relationships are based on respect and understanding, add sexual chemistry into the mix and you've got a good chance. But getting to know someone AFTER you've begun a sexual relationship, IMO, seldom lasts.

[@Uskayo]

Facts

[@michaelthem3]

You can have sexual chemistry and know the person and discover he/she is a great one. It is not that rigid of a rule, it is not set and engraved in stone. That's why you don't marry immediately, you share with that person over the years and get to know each other deeply first. It has nothing to do with when does the intimate relationship happen. 🤔

[@hannaharthur5324]

Please have Sarah Hill on the podcast! Hormonal forms of birth control have SO many side effects that no one talks about, including gynecologists. I would love, love, love to hear from her!

[@nostalgicbliss5547]

What are some of the side effects?

[@sdsmit3633]

@@nostalgicbliss5547 crushes the sex drive of many women on it. Also, when the woman finally decides to get off it and have a child. Far greater chance of the child being gay if it happens to be a male child. 🧐

[@nostalgicbliss5547]

@@sdsmit3633 it's simply not natural. Especially to be on it for many years. Most women complain about bad periods and it's really down to their diet and lifestyle

[@RR-et6zp]

he needs rollo tomassi

[@TheEstowrath]

Why her? Why not get a real expert? She'll probably be biased

[@stanbogdanovecz1300]

I'm 73 years old. That is spot on in my experience 👌

[@darthgambo1]

It’s also if they are not getting validation from their partner or getting needs met.. And abandonment and attraction.. because people cheat far after they already had their kids and are not seeking any more.. All I can say is if you have a good thing going with someone then Don’t Ruin it by cheating.. It’s not worth it.. Regret far outweighs loosing someone That you have been looking your whole life for

[@Bellamadonna]

@JayGambo 🙏 Amen. Just because we have the desire doesn’t mean we should act on it. There is a reason why almost all the religions have rules about infidelity.

[@MargaretF717]

💯 agree this is the main reason a woman would cheat - not getting needs met, and feeling abandoned

[@drytube6907]

The egg heads in the comments just seem to have woken up. This advise was apparent to anyone who had any experience with women in their life. Most women cheat because their needs are not met, the hoes will cheat regardless.

[@JustinFerguson-k6e]

​@@MargaretF717 haha no, dude

[@dionysusyphus]

Patrice O'Neal set the record straight on this subject years ago... R.I.P.

[@dionysusyphus]

@Enigma just look up Patrice Oneal Fish bot or the opie and anthony interview patrice vs Dr. V lol, he talks about that more than any other subject frfr so you should find a wealth of resources should you wish to sink deep into his philosophy specifically on the topic lol but frfr

[@DV-zv4ox]

"They put a gun to the pussy and threaten to kill it unless we listen to their insane nonsense." Man, Patrice just spat fact after fact with absolutely no remorse. Rest in peace, king.

[@rabbi619]

thanks

[@dionysusyphus]

@@rabbi619 🫡

[@ThirtytwoJ]

Damn. He does have a point on assymetry. The moment my face got injured it dropped off and guess she aint a patient person. He also coulda mentioned that birth control can change a womans entire spectrum of who theyre attracted to so one could go on the pill say post pregnancy and suddenly be repulsed by the husband and want the opposite attraction wise. Never met many that stop to ask why they feel something, just THAT they feel something is reason enough.

[@tranceformerfx]

I can't say the same about my face but I started to go bald around age 27. My wife divorced me a couple years later. As depressing as it is - women don't budge on genetics, even the shit that's out of your control.

[@ThirtytwoJ]

@@tranceformerfx cept for money

[@areyouseriousholmes]

@@tranceformerfx yea she was like damn those are not good genes. gotta play it off by pretending u like the bald look, or just get a good girlfriend, but you gotta find her when ur bald

[@nieczerwony]

Well it's the same for men. When they are down and in dark spot, no women is asking why. They just leave because they lost attraction.

[@ThirtytwoJ]

@@nieczerwony or dude with a trust fund and local fame for being sht at rap.

[@user-qb4eb8vq5u]

Researcher is 100% correct.

[@asap9779]

Will we ever treat women like responsible people or are we just gonna shelter them for eternity.

[@elisaaguilar6423]

Same could be said about men. Let’s keep EVERYONE accountable

[@Stranger_In_The_Alps]

That would require women being accountable and responsible. So the answer is no.

[@darbyohara]

Neve. They can’t handle it

[@treeshyne]

​@@elisaaguilar6423men are held accountable fiercly.

[@AAMM101]

Who hurt you 😂

[@tomhines3404]

I’ve never tapped on a JRE clip this fast

[@coreylaughy1066]

As soon as I saw it 😂

[@kiezersosay49]

Have you guys heard of this dude?

[@taylor_straub]

Men - evolution Women - sloots

[@kappashotcigsmoke2107]

Facts…

[@kappashotcigsmoke2107]

@@taylor_straub exactly

[@LDT7Y]

I've had two women ask me to help them cheat in my lifetime. Both were 100% driven by getting more money. One left her ex once she found someone wealthier. The other stayed put with her husband after he decided to sell one of his companies and she knew there was more money coming in. Neither of them were in love with their partners, but stayed for financial reasons and the social security of 'being married'. As far as I'm aware, none of the men involved found out. I suspect a lot more cheating goes on than people realise. Unless someone is demisexual and takes forever to find any viable partners, then it's very easy to cheat.

[@breakthecycle5238]

My mother had an affair with a construction worker. My father was an airline pilot earning over 200k a year and this was in the 90s. Money isn't always a factor.

[@billybobmonroe3166]

@@breakthecycle5238 The construction worker was probably more masculine or dominant than your father.

[@LDT7Y]

@@breakthecycle5238 Not always, but it seems to play a big role in a lot of cases. Maybe your mother would have left your father amicably and just moved on to another relationship instead of cheating if he hadn't been earning so much. Who knows? It's sad regardless of the reasons people have.

[@wholesome122]

Or religious and the fires of hell and a desire for virtue keep them on the straight and narrow.

[@breakthecycle5238]

@LDT7Y In her case it's easy she has cluster b personality disorder 🤣 Once a ho always a ho I hate that b****.

[@space_obama3708]

This hits hard for me because I've been cheated on before and it's really messed with my trust in others.

[@williamthomas5215]

I’m curious to see if they preformed these studies on women while on/off birth control. I’ve seen loose studies that have pointed out that oral birth control has wildly altered the mental and hormonal states of modern women. Definitely something to look into I would presume.

[@GenghisKhan311]

Definitely has from meer fact they don't have to worry about pregnancy

[@nostalgicbliss5547]

​@@GenghisKhan311 contraceptives and more efficient methods of abortions and more treatments for a variety of STDs have def made modern women more reckless, you combine it with social media and post modern feminism and you get whatever society is nowadays lol

[@ThaTurdBurglar]

DEFINITELY.. huge difference on/off imo

[@RR-et6zp]

he needs rollo tomassi

[@NaNa-re3wc]

@@GenghisKhan311 no BC is 100% effective, so I’d say especially with the overturn of roe vs Wade, women do still worry.

[@nickr.6507]

imagine getting a PhD, becoming a renowned psychologist and author, then coming on Joe Rogan's podcast and having him tell you you're wrong lmao

[@maebunny5298]

It's important to challenge "right" ideas so the academic can then further explain. People who don't have an academic mind may not understand everything being said and get confused or misinterpret what's being said. It's not necessarily an insult but it can be frustrating, yeah

[@Opa_Joke]

@@maebunny5298 When you devide women from the men and when you make them stop having their morals, society gets unstable.

[@henrytang2203]

You gotta challenge what sounds wrong. I'm a mere engineering graduate, and I challenged my vegan MD doctor about having unlimited fruit. Fructose causes fatty liver.

[@CptAngelADVlogs]

Imagine not challenging ideas because a PhD had them. Is your mind really that narrow?

[@GodWorksOut]

And that mentality is how the majority of the population was scammed into the jibby jab. TrUsT tHe ScIeNcE!

[@charithfernando7565]

Wish joes full episodes were still on youtube

[@poopypuppy9412]

Bro spotify is free

[@Spinozin]

The full Bob Lazar episode is on KZbin. I wonder why

[@sloppygoo]

They are back now

[@klc7275]

I’ve heard so many people say it’s hard not to cheat and you just have to always remember how much you love your partner. Ever since I found my now-husband, I’ve completely stopped being attracted to anyone else. There’s not a single cell in my body that wants anyone else. When men would flirt with me before, I was usually flattered even if I didn’t like them. Now, it’s annoying and it makes me want to be physically violent because I know they see my ring. It’s so weird that some people have to actively work on not cheating.

[@matinaki1644]

They don't actually love, they are comfortable. They love their lifestyle, not the person they are with.

[@zaralara8267]

No matter how much you say that, it is not true, the female likes to be desired, regardless of whether she has a partner or not, and it is also impossible for having a husband to make other men less attractive, such as Henry Cavill, Chris Evans or any other attractive man you pass on the street.

[@klc7275]

@@zaralara8267 Thank you for telling me how I feel. I never would’ve known.

[@matinaki1644]

@@zaralara8267 the deal with having a good relationship is that no matter if you find someone else attractive, your partner is the one you choose every time to honor and love.

[@nikkingman]

You wish bro

[@awakeiam1028]

Just a fun little fact/note, at 4:10 David states, suffered "the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune". This is actually a direct quote from Shakespeare's Hamlet, from Hamlets famous 'To Be or Not to Be' speech, in which he is contemplating whether or not to commit suicide. David is clearly a fan of English literature.

[@85geoffm]

Nah, he was quoting Adam Sandler who was quoting William Shakespeare in Billy Madison.

[@tomlewis7898]

my dude it is a fairly well known phrase in its own right already

[@Anarchistarchitect]

I never expect anyone to be faithful

[@MrLbstoner]

i feel like its almost as simple as the grass is greener on the other side, no matter if a woman has a super masculine man with a good job they will start to yearn for a man that just listens and has good conversation. a woman with a successful man with good income will yearn for a man that just has time for her. i feel like it simply comes down to if someone gives into their primal feeling or the sit back and evaluate their situation and realize what they really want in a relationship and can relay that information through understandable words.

[@Asto508]

In short: Women can never be happy.

[@MrLbstoner]

@@Asto508 I mean men are just as guilty

[@nostalgicbliss5547]

​@@MrLbstoner Not really. If a man has a respectful, loyal woman who is great and enthusiastic in bed and can cook, he'll never leave her. That's all a woman needs to keep a hetero man. Won't hurt if she stays fit and has top tier hygiene and grooming practices. Doesn't mean a man won't bang out some side pussy, but he'll never lose interest or care for his wife. Even the dude said it in this vid

[@hermesten1000]

@Jessie My grandmother was married for 60 years, never divorced. Doesn't mean she was happy. No doubt there are happily married women and men.....the question is how many....are they in a minority or in the majority?

[@Asto508]

@Jessie Don't confuse their happiness with staying married.

[@pnut3844able]

It doesn't matter why people cheat, it's wrong no matter what

[@rizzamaeong]

errr.... i think if you read the Doctors book, you will understand how cheating is sort of an adaptation. Not that i'm promoting it. Just explaining mating in the animal kingdom based on his book.

[@RaffieFaffie]

@@rizzamaeong Irrelevant to his comment

[@rizzamaeong]

@@RaffieFaffie It is relevant. The comment is speaking of morality. The doctor is speaking of biology.

[@RaffieFaffie]

@@rizzamaeong Exactly the biology of the doctor has nothing to do with the morality this guy is talking about

[@nikkingman]

Wow u should be a philosophy professor! So amazing!

[@davidhsubrogden5114]

Hey Professor Buss! I took your Evolutionary Psychology class at the University of Texas at Austin in 2000. Fun class and I still remember your entertaining lectures.

[@eurowerx4267]

We’re assuming all these woman were being honest 😂😂😂

[@rong2912]

They rarely are.

[@garetclaborn]

psychology and sociology research are innately wrong, not just low resolution but wrong. for one, ya exactly, people lie - some more than others. for two, there are types of people that would never respond or take part in these studies. potentially the majority of people would not take part in any kind of psychological research. psychology and sociology are studying only the subset of humans that willingly respond accurately -- very small. the subjects know practically nothing about mankind in general.

[@DorkoDoes]

With them selves even

[@smokingcrab2290]

Women say A and do B. I don't trust any woman because of this. Not even my own wife.

[@karljonson3287]

​@@garetclaborn your coclusion is very incorrect. Yes people lie but majority of people who for example will take an anonimous poll they have no reason to lie. Yeah people are more fluid and there are more variables when studying people and society than a period table and chemistry but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be studied. Researchers account for that trough validity and reliability. If your reasoning is that people lie then surely you can't believe almost anything that happened in history of humankind.

[@gripplehound]

Relationships change as time progresses. Not a lot stay the distance. As a couples therapist I find that women go off sex because their sexual relationship lacks intimacy, and often their partners remain at the physical level of engagement. Bluntly speaking, women outgrow the men, so seek intimacy elsewhere, men don’t get the physical, so go elsewhere.

[@NaNa-re3wc]

Well put, I could definitely see that as a generalization.

[@TheAlejandroAlfonso]

Logically plausible and I do not doubt this at all.

[@timthetiny7538]

Lol, women grow men are just meatheads. Slay kween

[@mylesleggette7520]

"Outgrow." Nice use of loaded language! People like you are a good example of why I'm fairly disdainful of counselors and their ilk. I bet you also usually find that responsibility for regrowing intimacy falls on the man, while responsibility for regrowing physicality falls on... also the man.

[@gripplehound]

@@mylesleggette7520 I rest my case

[@williammoore1980]

Men can love unconditionally. Women can only love circumstantially. Soon as they lose respect, or feel jaded, regardless of circumstances, they start looking or worse. You can never fully trust someone with two sets of lips, because at least one of them is going to lie to you.

[@FrankTownsendjr]

This is Gospel

[@nikkingman]

Also, don't forget that you can't trust something that bleeds for a week and doesn't die.

[@insatiableghost]

I took multiple classes from Dr. Buss during my time at UT. Really excellent professor.

[@johnorson6907]

@@PhilipJFry-qh2jg maybe you need to learn to pay attention for more than 15 seconds.

[@chad5577]

Yeah David Buss is an excellent writer I’ve read all his books - I just need to finish reading his latest work.

[@Brog9]

@@PhilipJFry-qh2jg You're verbose

[@jasonolinger7585]

@@PhilipJFry-qh2jg He's old man, have some respect for people who add value to this world.

[@reedyy_4114]

@@johnorson6907 the product of TikTok brain

[@rickdiazactually]

Great interview and information. I had a few classes with David's father, Dr. Arnold Buss, at UT Austin.

[@SAVAGEGaming-of7gh]

Why cant people just be honest or leave the relationship

[@Test-vr3kf]

That's what I can't wrap my head around. when it came out that my husband was cheating, one of his excuses was that I spent too much time studying (school). and I was like how does sleeping with someone else fix that? I mean if I was so bad, just leave and be with that person who has more time for you.

[@tasintevin2429]

It’s easy to say until you’re in one. Being in a relationship…joining with someone, is to become like family. So, for example, you can ask why is it difficult to just tell your sibling that he/she is toxic and you never want to see them again…even though y’all had some really irreplaceable moments as family. Your question is the first thought any logical person will have, but life’s answers are not always simple or as logical as the questions in life…

[@SpiritualSchmuck]

Because we make it too complicated to exit marriages.

[@Test-vr3kf]

@@SpiritualSchmuck I agree that divorcing should be easier (and maybe marriage should be harder), but you can still leave. Being married doesn't mean you stay and cheat. You can leave and still be legally married. When my cheating husband was found out, I didn't want to be bothered with a divorce, so I just split up with him. But then a couple of years later, I wanted to buy a house and I happened to be living in a community property state. And I was told that the house would be automatically half his even if he had nothing to do with the purchase. So I found a library book called "how to do your own divorce" and I got divorced and brought my house.

[@RastaganTheGreen]

Because they think they can have the best of both worlds, and they gamble that they'll get away with it. Really not hard to understand. Ending a relationship is a huge sacrifice, so if you're really selfish, the logic is why not get the sexual perks of being single and the comfort/stability perks of being in a relationship at the same time?

[@TheSaysaywhat]

As a woman- and of course I cant speak for all women but Im sure this is the case for a good amount of both men and women- I think the root of cheating is mostly when the current relationship has both parties unhappy whether they admit it or not, and an affair is a way to test drive someone else's compatibility or even singledom. Most female friends I've had have not cheated because of some physical genetic markers, but because of emotional attachment to the other person that grew. This probably sounds commonsense but just wanted to be one of the few female commenters here who can corroborate what he's saying, at least from personal anecdotes

[@kirbylover37]

You have multiple friends that have cheated? Get new friends

[@williamclayton9566]

Noooooo, dumb explanation - here's why. Your female friends are only looking at men of a certain caliber of genetic markers. Women already rate 80% of men as below average - what does that tell you other than that women are bad at math? She's only going to develop emotional attachments to men that are above average (top 20%) in genetics. And Buss was right (more right) the first time, dual mating strategy is a better explanation than mate switching.

[@joshua-nf3rx]

Love seeing women give explanations regarding things directly related to women. What you’re saying makes sense. I’d add that the age factor will affect the reasons ect. Women in the 20’s might have very different reasons for cheating then women in their 40’s. Enjoyed your comment

[@paulgilbert2506]

But they are far more likely to develop the emotional attachments with attractive men. Women are not very self aware when it comes to the reasons they are REALLY attracted to certain men.

[@leonnaranjo8682]

Men cheating is different than women. It's a number thing for us and we have favorite. Men have a main girl but she can be replaced by a younger woman who is just as smart and funny as her current old lady😂. Woman want one man, they fall in love with one dude. Ask any woman who their favorite boyfriend was, a majority would say he was a asshole but he did something to her that make her feel like a woman. In conclusion women are dumb and its not their fault

[@robroy289]

Too many people get married for the wrong reasons...they don't truly know the other person very well, they don't have similar/same values, the relationship is highly physical/sexual in the beginning attraction, they think how they appear to others as a couple is more important than how they are to each other, etc. The list goes in and on and after one or both realize how hollow the relationship is, they regret the situation they are in and look elsewhere for what's missing.

[@hermesten1000]

Yet arranged marriages can be quite successful.

[@keepalit4371]

​@@hermesten1000 I would say that's because of cultural differences. In those cultures infedility can be a death sentence socially and in some cases literally

[@hermesten1000]

@@keepalit4371 Don't know about that...seems like there is a lot of infidelity in India. And of course, it exists everywhere, even where there are severe penalties, and it always has. I don't buy that arranged marriages are successful merely out of fear, but I do agree that it has a lot to do with cultural differences.

[@keepalit4371]

@@hermesten1000 I come from a culture that doesn't quite have arranged marriages, so I take your word for it. Are marriages in india usually arranged? Even today?

[@hermesten1000]

I don't know what the numbers are now....my response was based more in the history of it than what is happening currently. I'm not btw an advocate of arranged marriages but from what I've seen they're not any less successful than people choosing their own spouses. But as you said, their are cultural factors...it wouldn't work in the US, probably never would have, though it think it has probably occurred some on a defacto basis...probably closer in kind to a business arrangement among the wealthy. Historically they have occurred in the West for economic and political purposes.

[@franciscozarate5478]

Women don't even understand women, this man is doing gods work.

[@joshlevy9462]

I clicked on this because my brain thought it was Ron Perlman in the thumbnail and I was surprised at how wrong I was

[@kspire9976]

Am I the only one on this planet who has no problem staying faithful to a partner? I really don't understand why so many people struggle with this.

[@youtube_deletes_comments]

me too, but sadly 90% these days aren't, i never got in a relationship but everyone around me is getting cheated on/cheating

[@commodore6430]

A partner? Like a business partner?

[@FatalSensation]

Oh I can be faithful but I will always desire having sex with beautiful women.

[@15Kilo]

There’s so many possibilities as to why this happens and the majority is more than likely situation based. I’d would think for the most part is because they need something they’re not getting at home. Affection, attention, sex etc

[@nostalgicbliss5547]

Or they just have a personality disorder and need help

[@sarelyv]

This

[@bernardwinkletoes4981]

DEMAND PATERNITY TEST NO MATTER WHAT

[@horsem.d.7979]

Prenuptials too

[@KillingMoon_]

Prenup is a must

[@johnnygold753]

Paternity test even for married couples should be the law they are not offered they are taken and can only be refused we could make the excuse medical heredity but the truth is it doesn't need to be daddy's maybe anymore it can be mama and daddy's baby. Men should not be made to feel guilty for wanting a paternity test before they sign that they are the father and you do have to sign and if you're married and it's not yours you could still pay child support which is complete insanity in this modern day

[@RentFreeInYourHed]

Why? Then the state will MAKE you pay child support.

[@darbyohara]

Should be mandatory in hospitals at birth

[@joes3703]

I love Joe’s stimulant of choice depending on who he’s interviewing.

[@J.A.706]

Infidelity is women's instinct to keep the species going. For regular tribal life, women want the beta male life companion they can count on to provide for and help raise the children. And they do often enjoy sex with them. But those alpha males... the expendable ones who go off to war or hunt down the most dangerous beasts but never hang around to nurture and provide companionship... their genes need to be carried on, also, for the diversity and survival of the tribe. We can't just keep only breeding for beta males. We need warriors and fierce huntsmen. A normal healthy woman wants her beta male by her side at all times and faithful to her so he won't split his resources between hers and someone else's kids. And she also wants sex with the alpha male who comes in the night and carries her away for a thrilling evening, and then is gone. She's happy to go back to her beta male as long as she gets some alpha variety. The idea that the majority of women don't intrinsically crave variety is BS.

[@marigoldfarmspyrographyart1017]

I just want to clarify that I find Jason Momoa attractive at all times of the month 🤷🏼‍♀️ that being said, he couldn't pay me to betray my husband, I personally don't think an unfaithful women is driven by reproduction at all, I believe it has to do with not having a strong moral base, not having their needs met, a level of entitlement and mental health... I think it's determined by individual emotions, and would be nearly impossible to find any sort of scientific consistency.

[@lifesacrifice]

You are so emotional! I'll put you and Momoa at a private setting when you are super pissed at your husband, than we'll talk 😅

[@88dfletcher]

I appreciate that you would post this for your husband to see.

[@alexisfigueroa2629]

I believe it all can be true just in Varying percentages from person to person.

[@2g1c69]

The difference between your opinion, and that of David Buss, is that he has found scientific consistency through studies. If you can’t backup your opinion through study and experiments, its not valid.

[@brucetus]

this is what every woman will say and the only reason why is because it makes them look good

[@longevityproject]

Find yourself a good wife gentlemen! They might not be as “interesting” but if you get a good woman you won’t need to worry. Trust your instincts on things too and don’t be afraid to walk away.

[@drrick2466]

What about Jada Smith. She interviewed Will Smith on KZbin after she did it.

[@zachlafond2652]

There is a good answer to that question. See the webside datalounge.

[@marks.3510]

I agree with your guest on the mate-shopping theory. Two woman I dated indeed fell into that category. In hindsight, the one was giving obvious signs that I ignored. The experience helped me to become a smarter person regarding the human nature of women.

[@tartuffethespry]

He talked about it being counterintuitive that cheating women would become attached to their fling, but it makes sense from a protection point of view. The fling is supposed to be physically superior/better genetics, and thus he would be a better protector form physical harm. Yes physical harm isn't really a present day threat, but surely that still exists in our brains somewhere

[@ShortFormLiFe]

Isn't a present day threat? Violence is everywhere even today.

[@tartuffethespry]

@@ShortFormLiFe Well not like the past when there was a sabretooth tiger outside your cave

[@sethmaginnipig1801]

What about oj? That guy had better genes than oj?

[@daroaminggnome]

@@tartuffethespry More like your barbarian neighbour Ugh-tar. Archaeological evidence suggests hunter-gathere societies had insanely high murder rates almost universally across the globe.

[@adurant3353]

Physical harm isn't a present day threat? 😂

[@cycokilla3]

Rogan offering him coffee was the cutest thing I’ve ever seen

[@SwiftyDawsonFan]

Joe had his pinky out on this one. 😂 Very cute, for sure.

[@RPMentorTokyoChannel]

Joe, thanks for having Dr. Buss on; he's definitely one of my favorite researchers and motivations for the content I create.

[@LotusHart01]

Agreed.

[@williamschlass6371]

Im 29 feeling the same way

[@RR-et6zp]

he needs rollo tomassi

[@Sandman0411]

Moral of the story: Everyone cheats one way or another. Focus on yourself and everything you want in this world will follow

[@talonr7818]

There is another study indicating the BC pill interferes with women's mate choices because it interferes with ovulation. It seemed to be true in my case, and after I stopped taking it. My preferences changed after that, as well as my outlook and attitude. The pill can mess with women's minds.

[@ArsAtramento]

It didn't mess with mine :/

[@haselbasil2488]

I'm not so sure that is true, but I am curious, how did it change ?

[@talonr7818]

@@haselbasil2488 I didn't say it was true for everyone, just in some cases according to the studies cited in Time magazine and elsewhere. It might have been coincidental, but I became more aware of men in general and men I didn't notice before. I do think the Pill flattened my interest.

[@haselbasil2488]

@@talonr7818 Ok, that's interesting.

[@edp3202]

​@@talonr7818go figure. Is this intentional by the pill creators or an unintentional side effect?

[@tyleraviles4518]

Well this sobered me up quite a bit . Dating past 25 is very rough . Lol 28 and feel like I’m from a different gen from people in early 20s lol

[@Moz29]

Me too bro me too

[@LaughingblueSu]

Think life is hard? Wait till you are 65.

[@tyleraviles4518]

@@LaughingblueSu blesss u

[@joeconte8475]

Right there with ya man

[@razzdiamond6447]

You'll find the woman (or women) you want, you just gotta change what you're doing. Or take advice from guys who are exceptionally well at dating. On youtube, Alex from Playing With Fire is a great example

[@matw1x]

Stay single. Never settle.

[@sole__doubt]

well Im 45 and I couldnt agree more.

[@jmr3490]

I agree but, What if you want kids though?

[@sheluvskad2257]

​@@jmr3490 impregnate random women around the world

[@carloferretti8956]

@@jmr3490 have kids and be a dad, but never put anything past a woman. Especially if you aren’t genetically gifted.

[@overcastskyline1747]

@@jmr3490 give a broad kids and leave her if shes a pain, at least you got some ducklings out of the relationship

[@kimmartino5556]

It seems to me that he didnt answer your question. And as a woman i was really curious to hear the answer. GREAT question. Really impressed with Joe’s questions and points on this one. Its impressive how he can adapt his interview stylw to the guest. Very very impressive.

[@tonydawson2670]

Did a topic called Balance Theory in one of my uni subjects (Social Psychology). An affair is the quickest way to balance cognitive dissonance in a relationship where you are putting more in than you are getting out of it...

[@mariorodriguez219]

That’s extremely interesting

[@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom]

That makes a LOT more sense then this guys theory of symmetry and dual partners to have higher chances of conception…. If that were the case older women who can’t have children would never cheat & we KNOW that’s not the case.

[@PigeonLaughter01]

​@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom that was the dudes old theory. His new one is that when the relationship starts faltering women start looking elsewhere, and cheat as a safe way to step into a relationship. That makes sense to me. Most women I know aren't single for long, always in a relationship or dating.

[@tommckellen4289]

First off, let me say I'm not denying the importance of fidelity in many key senses. However, unconsciously, people like Rogan, look at things in an overly deontological way. This is a Western Jedeo Christian malaise and is demonstrative of a lack of comprehension of the true higher God and spirit. (yet the West tends to distort things which are deontologically irrevocable, such as your biology). Of course, there is a positive side to the deontological quest, as this guest makes many rational, well researched points. It's merely that it's also necessary to have grey areas and 'the open cup ready to be filled'. Deontological thinking without explanation, nuance or unending new possibility, is also a sign of diminished IQ (think rednecks who can only repeat Bible verses with the epistemology that 'its true because it's true' rationale). In other words, the Western Judaic deontological quest (although I'd suggest the pre Christian Western ancients had a far more advanced thinking methodology) can be to generate an unending stream of rules merely as a way to prop up your sense of self. You are a hero in your own mind, and sometimes other people's minds (those with a diminished IQ) merely if you can say 'I made this rule, and it's a rule because it's cool' and boy oh boy does this allow extremists to come up with some bonkers rules. 'You can't say XYZ about XYZ group and this absolutely, deontologically true' as is one Woke idea, for example, which I would strongly suggest comes from Yahwism, the irony being that so many Yahwist cultures consider themselves to be 'free thinking'. Clue, they are often not as free thinking as they believe. At all. This is also why most of the world see the West as 'preachy' but simultaneously hypocritical. It's because anyone can make a set of rules which sets someone up (for warfare, regime change, cancelling etc) whilst you yourself nonchalantly break a whole array of other what might be arbitrary rules, which another person could easily ad hoc generate, as a form of 'superiority chess'. Now, this may seem a controversial place to say it, on a video about relationships and fidelity, an area where a certain degree of deontology is not bad, but it's nonetheless the case that Yahwism (the unconscious thinking pattern behind much Western thinking including both woke and far right philosophy) cannot handle nuance. What if a couple decides to have an open relationship, for example, and neither feels and remorse or distaste for the situation? Certainly from a Yahwist 'traditional' perspective, this can't be possible (in fact, such a thing would be punishable by stoning when Jawism was at it's barbaric apex). What about Pagan times when people followed far looser conceptions of god, with regards to relationships, which never meant that wedlock nor out of wedlock relationships were a sign of moral impropriety (the opinion most sane people hold today) People will say I am presenting a 'liberal' perspective by saying that not all people want to be in the same style of relationship, or that I am poo pooing traditionalism, but this is idiocy. Not everything is and/or, that's this hypocritical Western deontology for low IQ individuals. I'd imagine that Rogan is aware, for example, that many countries following the strong Judaic deontological quest, believe that pot smokers should be severely punished (time in prison and in certain circumstances, execution). The point is not what is correct/incorrect on this particular topic. Of course, cheating is hurtful if it is two people together who have made a strong bond of commitment. Of course traditional coupling is the very bread and butter of one generation spawning another. This is NOT my key point. My point is more general in observation of the pattern of many 'unravelling the Matrix' Western social media commentators. Rogan, like others, is part of the malaise of Yahwist thinking (unconsciously of course) which is the progenitor philosophy of both woke and extreme right ideology. In Yahwist cultures, saying 'I came up with this new rule' is the peak of showing your status (ironic when the Yahwist cultures tend to have 'belief in discussion' high on their list of ideals) Can an evolutionary biologist help people to stay together and love eachother for all eternity? It might happen, but God (the real God) is God. It is more nuanced and is seeking more understanding than you think than mere rules.

[@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom]

@@PigeonLaughter01 We’ll all I heard him talking about was symmetry and dual mating strategies in this clip, that’s why I’m mentioning it, but yes I agree, if that’s his new theory it certainly makes more sense than than his old one, however as a woman, I know the reason women cheat & it’s the same reason men do… a partner is not meeting the others needs… whether physical needs or emotional needs and they seek to fill those needs with other people… and yes I’m some cases I’m sure some women keep a foot in either relationship because they aren’t willing to give one up until they know the other is better, some men likely do the same as well.

[@TheGravygun]

you can either understand them or you can love them You can't do both

[@J_ose904]

😅😅 This sounds right

[@davidbrown4271]

Being cheated on is so painful, it’s not a crime but almost should be as the pain is torturous.

[@Lucywonderhunt]

I find it odd that a marriage licence is legally binding but if a spouse cheats it’s not illegal? Should be , as maybe more folk would think twice before they cheat . It can destroy lives and families . Just respectful end your relationship!

[@rogerarriola4692]

Actually is a crime in Arizona

[@km0262]

Infidelity should be a crime, it has a huge negative effect on society and the family structure.

[@theliftexpert]

The pain is telling you that you misunderstood the agreement , she wanted secret variety ,you wanted honest monogamy. Being a human being is difficult work, best wishes on your journey.😊

[@larrymclendon7151]

Time heals ALL wounds my friend. Keep a stiff upper lip and stay busy. Good luck out there.

[@Sinnerswing]

I love the JRE podcast. Another great guest and great topic.