Does the 2005-2009 Mustang GT Suck?

[@ThatDudeinBlue]

Oh memories. Thank you to everybody who’s been here since day one :)

[@gsxellence]

When will you be reviewing a grand prix gtp and Impala SS supercharged w-body

[@natemullins7476]

I have bcracing coilovers and full suspension on my 06 gt and I absolutely love it. Handles so well

[@johnmerkel5956]

Drive a roush 427r track pack and you’ll thank me later

[@windsormohler5031]

When a sn95 review 4.6

[@stormyday849]

To be honest I like the look of the 2005 to 2009 better then the 2010 to 2014

[@travisaverett5064]

I’m so happy to see so many people who love this generation of Mustang as much as I do. It represents classic and modern in the perfect way

[@lordkesadiya2131]

Don’t really care about power/suspension/interior (just modify it to your tastes) , this is was the best way to kick off the “retro-styling” trend, and in my opinion, no other car really did it as good as the S197 Mustang

[@borla4491]

👍. Really. Everyone was stoked when the Mustang was redesigned like the 1960s Mustang.

[@Jyxrr]

@Gear1993Head xxx gen z was like 7 years old when the S197 came out😐

[@OllamhDrab]

I think I could work with that interior pretty easily. I don't share what seems to be a younger generation's revulsion at tan interiors, but I think I'd probably black out a few panels like under the dash, do black carpet, (And lose the carpet in the door cards in favor of I-dunno-what fabric, maybe suedey stuff or alcantara, possibly cover the fake aluminum on the dash with woodgrain fakery, basically kinda double down on the retro. :) The pale-and-stainless look was kinda trendy at the time. but eminently negotiable especially if you can find pieces from a black interior and have some of that plastic lawn furniture paint Valspar makes. It lasts forever. :)

[@bobbylight141]

Challenger was better

[@hotpinkfryingpan]

@Gear1993Head xxx most coveted and sought after? Lol no, the first gens and every GT350 or GT500 are coveted, and the sought after ones are the ones with a Coyote.

[@wheelspinmedia1700]

honestly I love the looks of it, the only negative is the 4.6 compared to the 5.0 in the 11-14

[@maxthc3648]

I don't like how the speedometer only goes to 140

[@MrMlbfan6]

Exactly

[@ericswires8534]

That’s why there’s so much interest in coyote swaps. People want the best of both worlds.

[@midnight347]

@@ericswires8534 these cars are super easy to coyote swap also. If you want the badass old school styling with alot more performance stock and just as high of a ceiling as the coyotes (even higher than gen 1 coyotes) the 07-09 gt500 is the ticket. I love my 07 its a beast. Got a gen3r waiting to slap on hello 750 rwhp with no headers and a small tbody on pump gas and boostane lol.

[@danielroberson5421]

@@maxthc3648 Actually there are a couple slashes after that but do you go that fast on a regular basis?

[@hhmotorsports3624]

My favorite body style in 50+ years of Mustang. The mix of modern style and classic fastback was perfect. The look was clean and not over done.

[@CODSk8er]

this

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

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[@newfie-dean5803]

💯

[@terryrideout7457]

Yes mine as well by far best looking mustang. CLASSIC

[@Smasher-Devourer]

I don't care what anyone says. Even though I have an 2016 GT, I still want an S197 to play around with. Its my favorite modern body style, and I doubt anything will change that.

[@joshuakhaos4451]

I have on 09 Glassroof GT and I love every minute of my ownership of it. Its deeply flawed for sure, but its looks(Which have help on strong 13-16 years later) and the memories I now have with it make me forgive that its a pig and is very outdated. Plus the aftermarket for them has lots of upgrades to keep them looking a bit more modern and fresh looking with each new gen of mustang that comes out. They even have the S550 tri bar taillights for them and they look SO GOOD!!

[@Smasher-Devourer]

@@joshuakhaos4451 I've owned 3 S197s, all V6 models. 07, (totaled, hit by a drunk), 06, and a 13. All were great cars, I just had to have a V8, and I'm not regretting it one bit.

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

The 4.6 sounds amazing lol mine is supercharged kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@midnight347]

Get an 07-09 gt500. Same badass styling as the gt (only better) with the old school badass sound (only better) with a higher performance ceiling than anything short of a boss 302 s197 wise. The 5.4 4v sounds like a beast. Sounds just like 13-14 gt500 and has just as much potential once you swap the blower and you get it for alot less money vs 13-14 (which are awesome but kind of overrated imo).

[@wesleygrabowski3755]

I've noticed a trend with these GTs becoming more affordable, of course with higher mileage, but I've always loved the looks of them. My mom had a 2005 GT and I remember loving that car as a kid. I'd love to own one for some time myself.

[@wesleygrabowski3755]

@Lone Wolf they pop up once in awhile here in Minnesota where I'm at. Just keep your eyes open on Craigslist or Marketplace and they come around.

[@yungactivist]

Prices went up on them they went from 7k to 15k

[@ThatNofbody]

@@yungactivist lmfao where I see them for 5-7k all day in Florida manual too

[@abrahamcano3155]

Same lol

[@user-360johnn]

@@yungactivist bruh i wanted one (still in school)

[@CODSk8er]

Absolutely love both my 2016 and 06 GT Mustangs, but that S197 body style just holds a special place in my heart, every time i walk up to it it reminds me of the first time seeing it as a kid, wanted one ever since. Definitely one of my favorite mustangs.

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

They do look amazing and if done right look mean as hell ! Love the sound and power of mine kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@206dave]

I never liked tan interior in any car, but my 2005 has been my daily for 12 years and it’s never let me down, it’s basic, but it’s a fun car

[@alexgourdine6214]

I still daily my 05 mustang been reliable and still pulls strong

[@206dave]

@@alexgourdine6214 same here, other than oil changes and brakes, all I’ve had to fix was the tps, the s197 is a decent car, I don’t understand why so many people dislike them

[@walterjohnson4813]

@@206dave me either

[@tomjoad8272]

@@206dave I think what hurts it is because of how much better the 5.0 was. I had a girlfriend in high school who had a 05 5 spd gt. Fun car. But it loved to kick out on you a bit too much if you weren't careful. Then I remember driving a friend's 11 5.0 and such a night and day difference. It was hard to believe they were both mustangs. Lol. But I liked the 05-09 stangs alot.

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

Great car great engine.. supercharged mine and it’s only a weekend warrior with 70k miles and 500hp on low boost kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@joemartin8651]

My 2007 holds up still. I have done some modifications over the years. And, also removed some of them too. Bought it in 2009 and it’s paid off and still puts a grin on my face. I have no complaints it starts everyday and gets me to work. It has done some drag and road course work. Do I want a 2016 or newer? Hell yes but the mortgage comes first.

[@ericswires8534]

Same here. My modded 07 is paid off and always makes me smile.

[@_J4KE]

This is why we love the 3V the most! Most down to Earth soul of a car🔥🤟

[@Just_Mark]

When I would leave work in a civic, the ride home was still kinda ‘work-time’. Dropping the top on my 3V ‘vert after work turns that drive into ‘me-time’. And honestly, you can still get 23-24 MPG if necessary. These cars actually make decent commuters.

[@ericswires8534]

@@Just_Markamen. I drive my 3v to work a couple times a week and always look forward to the drive home. The hurst 5sp and the sound of the exhaust are therapeutic.

[@RonVik7]

@@ericswires8534 priorities!

[@Darylrb1983]

I love the sounds of the 4.6 3v. Sounds more...muscle...ish if that makes sense

[@WhoThisGuy515]

For sure they have a deeper rougher tone to the exhaust

[@thechugger6075]

It’s Bc all these loser e boys these days use X Pipes instead of H Pipes

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

@@thechugger6075 Love my X pipe …

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

My supercharged GT sounds amazing love the sound of the 4.6 kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@elichosen3931]

Yea I get you, VS the coyote that screams louder and doesn't have as much of an deep tone... the 5.4 triton had a deep tone also sounded real muscle'ful lol the triton got so much hate but when decided to drop it in the the ford gt then the gt500 then the "supersnake1000" then I was sold my respect for the triton was awoken ha it's like ford was showing the world this is what the triton aka modular motors are capable of at full potential lol

[@rickyc8026]

I love 05 09 Mustangs. Love the body lines. Looks better than the S550 in my opinion. I own 2016 GT

[@blackeye3336]

Way way better people stay hating on em

[@mustang8206]

Yeah I like the S550 but the 05-09 just has that classic look

[@blackeye3336]

@@mustang8206 absolutely does

[@rickmanley767]

I agree, that flat back end is the best! And the sound from that three valve is perfection!

[@deankevin96]

@@bullittboost6046it’s not that they get hate, they’re just slow as hell bro. Lmao. A g37 with a 3.7L, a q50, a 370z, 350z, I can go on and on about other N/A cars with smaller engines that will gap this shit. Il

[@angelcaballeros8687]

They definitely look outdated when stock but these cars have an infinite amount of after market mods that can make them look much nicer

[@GOPACKERSJT]

I always thought the LED 13-14 style taillights did A LOT for these cars.

[@angelcaballeros8687]

@@GOPACKERSJT that’s exactly what I got on my 3v currently

[@rickitysplitz7035]

The cosmetic mods make me puke and want me to keep it on the stock look.

[@angelcaballeros8687]

@@rickitysplitz7035 I personally didn’t like the stock look so added a couple different stuff but everyone has their preference 👍🏻

[@ryanpeniel6437]

Those LED headlights that just turn on on the border of the circle also looks dope

[@grantsarantakos1617]

I never cared for how much power it could make/handle the body lines and overall styling is what got me hooked on these mustangs it’s just too good imo

[@babydarius6147]

Exactly, it’s not like we’re trying to race for a living. It’s 100% looks

[@mcb9644]

Me either V8 great désigne, I don’t need more here in France

[@CiboloHemi]

Loved my 3v. So easy/cheap to make a car with character. 3vs with longtubes and cams sound way better than coyotes, IMO.

[@MatthewKrompier]

I totally agree with you and I had a 2015 full bolt on and went back to my 3v!

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

No doubt about it lol mine is supercharged and sounds amazing one of the best sounding cars around 🤙🏻 kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@pope9349]

the 4.6 sounds better indeed but very down on power sadly.

[@TriscuitOnSiege]

@@pope9349 5.6 0-60 and 155 top speed is low performance?

[@fsl3242]

@@TriscuitOnSiege compared to other cars at the time, and nowadays it’s kinda average stats

[@mrballpython2105]

My father has a 2007 GT with basic mods and its probably the best sounding car Ive ever heard. No CATS and aftermarket exhaust system the thing just sounds amazing! Its fast enough to have fun.

[@Ohwellitsnotthatimportant]

Sounds good as it's getting passed by any Camaro made before it

[@ThatNofbody]

@@Ohwellitsnotthatimportant oh definitely my 95 z28 ofc it’s built and nitrous is taking down coyotes still 😂

[@Ohwellitsnotthatimportant]

@@ThatNofbody LT1s are trash too

[@ThatNofbody]

@@Ohwellitsnotthatimportant hahaha ur crazy dude I make 675hp reliably all day I daily my fucking race car and have had no engine problems besdies changing my plugs and I whoop ls cars all day and coyotes 🤦‍♂️😂

[@ThatNofbody]

@@Ohwellitsnotthatimportant plus the iron block that the ls doesn’t have takes boost like candy

[@CaptainThirdGen]

I like the early s197 a lot. I find them pleasant to drive. I also prefer the 05-09 styling to any other mustang generation.

[@brandonrickbornponyexpress6574]

Same

[@kenmueller6029]

Facts. These are the best looking.

[@06GTblue]

I have a 06 GT. Stock and everything original. Yes best looks and will not buy any other gen.

[@ThatLoud3v]

@@06GTblue same I have a 05 gt

[@7Word]

I just bought a 16 year-old 2008 Bullitt and I love it!

[@edwardgreenjr167]

That first year though. Still have my '05, and that first year when everyone and their grandma wanted a 'retro' stang was golden. It was a solid 6 months before I would recognize more than a rare fellow S197 on I-95. Now, they're everywhere. Still one of the most reliable cars I ever owned.

[@joshuakhaos4451]

I own an 09 Glassroof and I love it. I've had it for 5 years and its been super reliable. Its also been on several roadtrips and I have tons of memories with it, But now at 13, being a daily and a permanent outside car(Not my choice), She's looking a little rough/tired and I'm wanting to get a daily so I can then slowly give it a light restoration and eventually start some level of modifications with it.

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

Love mine ! One of the best sounding cars you’ll ever hear just like mine kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@austinhess8902]

Just bought an 05 GT, I’ve been around the “new edge” and the 2011 with the coyote , I’m 23 now and I always had a soft spot for muscle cars back in highschool and could never afford or get one . Finally saw the right one and jumped on it and I’m so glad I did. It’s my first muscle car, always had jdm cars . I love those cars but nothing beats the sound of a v8 and the looks of the mustang

[@sh4nsei159]

awesome i current am on my 2nd sn95 and probably gonna get a 3V as my first v8, how much did you get yours for if you don't mind me asking?

[@ThatLoud3v]

@@sh4nsei159 in my opinion 99-04 and the 05-09 mustangs are best body styles

[@justat1149]

In all terms, this and the 2010-2014 model years are the cars I grew up with, and they’ll always be the first things that’ll pop into my head when someone says “Mustang”. The 05-09 may have hate behind it, but who cares. If someone didn’t want to deal with the potential issues, then don’t buy the car 🤷‍♀️

[@theZDOME]

You must be a yougin then! when I hear someone say mustang I think of foxbodies, it’s cool the differences in what model we’d first think of due to age differences

[@justat1149]

@@theZDOME Kid of the early-mid 2000’s lol. Fan of the later fox bodies myself, but yeah, when I think Mustang, it’s either a 2013 GT/GT500 or one of these 05-09 GT’s lol

[@theZDOME]

@@justat1149 that’s rad man, your perfect proof the car scene will never die!

[@joshuakhaos4451]

The 05-09 Mustangs aren't the first modern mustang to get hate. The SN95s got shit for years about being the slowest muscle car, Shitty interior and being ugly(Every one of them outside of the Terminators and Machs that is). But now attitudes towards them are finally changing and they are starting to get some love.

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

Gotta love the sound of these bad boys though my supercharged GT sounds amazing 🤙🏻 kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@Four_Eyes]

nice to see the 3v getting some love here

[@Dev095]

Yooo Four eyes! I'm glad you're here, your videos definitely helped with me keeping mine. Now look at it lol.

[@shannonkeen4289]

bought my 06 GT during my senior year of high school. so many great memories of my late teens and early 20s. here i am turning 34, with 2 kids, and an EV for a daily driver. But this thing is still sitting in the driveway. had it re-sprayed last year. I still enjoy getting in and taking off, playing 2000s rock with the windows down. Thanks for this vid! PS my door panels are peeling too!

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

How does mine sound bro ? kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@HereIsGoodwithLalin]

I had the door peeling too. Took it to a local upholstry place and with some strong glue its brand new again.

[@theman.6396]

Mine is setup the same way. I built it for backroad twisties and absolutely love it. I'm not a pro race car driver and I don't try to be, this is enough to get into a little trouble and have cheap fun and sounding good. Sadly at 189k miles she jumped timing. In the shop for a rebuild. I got my moneys worth out of it though!

[@franpancho1000]

What mods did you do with the suspension?

[@dragon-bs9lm]

What does a jumped timing mean? Common issue with this car?

[@MonsterConrad]

It saddens me to see the hate the 3 valve receives. Especially the 2010 Mustang GT because it truly is the unloved child. I've had my 3 valve mustang for about 3 years now and I love it so very much. It's the first mustang I've ever been in, it's the only one I've ever driven, so yes, of course I am biased because I have nothing to compare it to unless we start discussing the other vehicles I have driven. But I love this car very much, my 2005 Mustang GT that ALSO has the Shaker 500, but the Shaker 1000 was the better option with the sub woofer in the trunk. Honestly, I really do wish it had a little more power, but that's because I've grown into this car and it took time to understand it's capabilities in it's factory form, especially because it was, and still is, the only car that I drove with a stick with the exception of my dad's car. I learned how to drive manual in that car in the span of maybe 4 20 minute lessons at best. More like 15, but it's whatever. In my opinion, there isn't a comparison to be made in terms of sound quality when comparing the 3 valve to the coyote. The 3 valve has a better sound to it especially at higher RPMs where as the coyote sounds more like a hoard of angry bees. After 3 years, I am finally ready to upgrade / mod the car and Everyone keeps telling me that I should "just get a better mustang with a coyote engine in it" or to swap one in and it's just not what I'm up for. I already have the black plastic, the red leather seats, Everything I could possibly want except the sub woofer and the back up camera. I've got a 6 CD selector and mids + speakers in the doors though so the sound quality if phenomenal. So to anyone looking to buy one of these as their first mustang, you'll either love it, or hate it. And do keep in mind what tires you are running. The cheapest wheels you can buy should be your last resort as you will absolutely spin the car.

[@overdosed51]

They may get hate but I've always loved this body style. It looks soo retro and I think one day that will be really cool

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

Very good looking car and cheap to make really fast 🤙🏻 love the sound of mine and the power with the supercharger kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@richarcm]

I loved my 2007 GT. It was a nice step up from my 1995, 1994, and 1990 GTs. It had a firmer ride and had more power.

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

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[@dragon-bs9lm]

Was it reliable?

[@richarcm]

@ Yeah. As reliable as any other vehicle I’ve owned really. At one point the rear end started whining. I just took that need for repair as an opportunity to install 4.10 gears. I eventually traded it in at about 100,000 miles for an F150. At that time it was starting to have an oil leak. That eventually happens to most cars at some point unfortunately. But aside from those it always ran great. It was a fun car. No regrets.

[@dragon-bs9lm]

@ oil leak at 100k doesn’t sound that good. Maybe easy fix?

[@timbo7660]

I bought a 2008 Bullitt strictly for the retro look. Only two mods was adding a Hurst shifter to keep that retro look and an MBRP exhaust to wake it up. I live in the Great Smoky Mountains and the stock 3:73 gear is perfect for running "The Dragon."

[@toxichudsoup1644]

I had the choice between a 2012 5.0 and a 2010 3V. The 2012 had about 15,000 km more on it and was almost $7000 more but I figured I'd try both and see if the price was worth it. While the 5.0 is the faster car, it wasn't by much tbh. At least not between 0 and 140kph they both felt similar in acceleration. So I went with the 3V. I have no complaints with it.

[@ThatNofbody]

You are trippin ofc stock for stock maybe but even then coyote is faster but the coyote takes e85 fbo it’s going way faster then that 3v w the same mods

[@dbmae1532]

Stop capping

[@YuShawStang]

@@ThatNofbody When I purchased my 05 Mustang GT, I got a speeding ticket within a week, because I floored the gas peddle like my 1997 Rav4 😓

[@Mark-ny5rf]

Very fond of my 2007 California Special with a 5 speed. Low miles and well cared for, it gets looks whenever I take it out. The point was made regarding this car being designed as more of a cruiser, and this is exactly what it is. Summer weekends all shined up and going for a drive is a dream in these cars. Another point from the video is the alternator, which I've had issues with and replaced two. But do I love the car and proud to own it? Absolutely.

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

Great cars no doubt run good and sound amazing 👍🏻 supercharged mine and can’t complain at 500hp on low boost kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@tune1398]

I have a 06 GT and I had to replace 3 alternators in 2 years

[@brandonrickbornponyexpress6574]

@@tune1398 why do they go bad so fast ?

[@tune1398]

@@brandonrickbornponyexpress6574 It’s a common problem for 2006 year. Not sure about other years.

[@brandonrickbornponyexpress6574]

@@tune1398 oh thanks man. Just got an 06.. do they make an upgraded alternator?

[@NOrlando952]

I gotta give props to the mustang owner for modifying suspension and tires first. You sir are a true reasonable car guy that wants a good driving experience and not just clout, I’m sure a lot people probably told him just put it on lowering springs and add more power but he went the proper route for setting up a car to instead of the cheap flashy route.

[@NOrlando952]

May I remind you that power only helps you with acceleration and maybe top speed dependent on gearing and drag. But suspension and tires helps with braking, Turning, and acceleration.

[@Dev095]

Nick, I really appreciate it. When I first got the car 5 years ago. I definitely looked at it being more of a show car/drag car. However I seen that this is not what this car is suppose to me. Going to autox and the mountains really changed my perspective.

[@seth4074]

personally the early s197 is my favorite looking mustang, being that i have one i might be a little biased but i couldn’t want anything more in a fun you could say weekend cruiser/race car, and with the suspension mods that are done on mine with a wide wheel setup its the most confidence inspiring car i’ve really driven hard in the mountains, i’ll always have a weird love for the 4.6 and i 100% want to get a stock one as a daily and do a little suspension work on it, would love a coyote car but those are just too expensive and with the kinda conservative tune and built motor i have it makes 530whp on 12lbs 2.3whipple and a 3spd with od manual valve body trans and i couldn’t be happier

[@VQSeries]

Handling/steering-wise, I think they fall short, and gearing is either for drag or cruising, not what I'd want for spirited canyon carving - otherwise I always had a soft spot for these.

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

Awesome cars bro straight up amaerican muscle in the looks department and sound kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@rotelfan2000]

with the right suspension parts these things will corner carve all day.. the trick is the Watts Link. I put mine on early and it makes a HUGE difference in how the rear feels. bought mine new in 07 and I'll never get rid of it.

[@NOrlando952]

I appreciate a car guy that can like a car knowing it’s flaws.

[@joemoskaluk]

my first car was the 3v, was 17 when i got it going on 19 now and i’m still driving it and i love it still. ofc i wish i had more power and currently saving for a coyote but with the price i got that car for you really can’t get any better. and with the right parts you can make it decently fast. great first car

[@BigBoss1292]

I had an 06 GT, it was my first V8…today I have a 2014 GT that I’ve done extensive work on, it’s pushing well over 500hp at the wheels, but despite all of that…I honestly had way more fun with the 06 even though it was significantly slower. The design and feel of that car just speaks to me that later S197s, S550s and S650s just don’t. The 5.0 Coyote is a beast, but I had just as much fun as anyone could have with the 4.6

[@117johnpar]

If they had this body on a modern chassis setup. It would be ideal. This gen looks soooo much better than the current one.

[@bikeraaron]

In my opinion it’s one of the best Mustangs ever made. It started the retro revolution that gave us the new Camaros and Challengers. The interior is absolutely beautiful when compared to all other cars built between 05 and 09 (was a seriously bad time for car interiors!) I believe this car saved the Mustang. I remember when it came out and people were longing for a good looking car with power, something like a 67 Mustang only modern. They hit the nail on the head for that time. Yeah the newer ones are better. But man I’ll never forget when that 05 hit the lot. And that 3 valve may be a dog but the sounds it makes are beautiful. It doesn’t howl like a Coyote, it growls like an overweight Malemute. I eventually got an 07 and later a 2011. The 05-09 with always be that car that as a young man I had to have. Very special car indeed.

[@isaiahharris1029]

When the S197 first came out, that was when the mustang officially became the car I wanted. In fact I prefer the more true retro styling the car represented compared to the newer S197. But, im not gonna complian that I have a coyote powered stang either lol.At the end of the day it is still a great bang-4the-buck car.

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

Can’t beat it for the price ! The sound is amazing and good power for a low amount of money put into it. Plus the sound is amazing I love mine kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@joshuakhaos4451]

I own an 09 Glassroof GT and I absolutely love it to death. Its been a great car the last 5 years and I intend it to be in my life forever if possible. I have so many memories with it and it just does it for me. Do I have other cars I want to own? Sure I do, but I dont think I'd keep those around for more than a few years. Its also been a great roadtrip car for me as well. I dont think these deserve that hate, They arent perfect, but Everyone shat on new edges and SN95s for years, but here recently. Those are seeing praise and love.

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

Great cars the only reason they get so much hate is because the 5.0 came out 1 year after the 2010 so everyone shits on the 4.6 but with a small amount of money they run damn good ! Love the sound of mine since I supercharged it I got plenty of power 500 on low boost kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@blacksunshine1089]

People dog on most cars at some point. Go back 15+ years, and everyone was ragging on Fox Bodies for their styling and build quality. Over the last few years, people are getting $20k+ for them. Typically in terms of value, cars tend to hit their rock bottom at around 15 years old.

[@groggysword33]

First car I test drove to own was a 3V 5-speed. I had barely learned how to manage a manual. I burned out the tires on the test drive and killed it half way down the off ramp… I ended up not buying it, but it did start my love of mustangs.

[@rickiesuavo9968]

What did you buy instead?

[@groggysword33]

@@rickiesuavo9968 My parents let me drive their car for a while. Then I ended up picking a 1989 Honda Prelude with a 5 speed.

[@groggysword33]

@@rickiesuavo9968 but before I got a new car, I got a motorcycle.

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

They are great cars and sound amazing! My supercharged GT sounds beautiful kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@christianreyes368]

I have a manual 07 GT. It’s FBO, cammed, has a fully modified suspension and I also have a nitrous kit. I ran a 12.8 in the quarter without nitrous with 3.31s. I also do autocross and track events and even took 1st at ORP. I have 143,000 miles and it’s also my daily. I absolutely love the car and the amount of people I’ve proven wrong and impressed has made me more than happy:)

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

They are great cars bro kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@PhilthyHorseRacing]

I learned to drive a manual in an 09. It was also my first autox car. The car was dead reliable (50k on the clock when I sold it), lowering springs, bbk bolt one (previous owner installed) and muffler delete. Probably one of the best sounding cars I've had.

[@eddiesidorov8635]

I would hope it was reliable at 50k, that’s barely broken in 😅 in all seriousness these cars are great options now for 10-20k

[@bitcoochie4093]

@@eddiesidorov8635 my Altima trans went out at 50k lmfaoo

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

They definitely sound better then 9 out of 10 cars easily .. love the sound of my supercharged GT one of the best anyones heard as far as I’m concerned kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@ThatLoud3v]

@@iAmMighty-Frieza yeah these 3v's sound so good👍I have a 05 with American racing longtubes headers a catless H-pipe and borla ataks mufflers and man it sounds so rowdy

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

@@ThatLoud3v Can’t go wrong with the Borla Attaks bro that’s what I got as well as a BBK careless X pipe and shorty headers. Definitely would like to hear your set up bro

[@DanoFSmith-yc9tg]

As someone who doesnt like many fords, i would actually buy the 05-09, its body looks the best of all the modern retro mustangs and mostly resembles the og from the 60s.

[@trevstar13]

I had an 05 GT with the 5 speed manual, did lots of bolt ons and had so much fun with it. Didn’t miss it until I got rid of it

[@Vengeance_S197]

loved the video man. literally have two 3 valves in my driveway as of yesterday and loved to hear your opinion on them. definitely a memory maker

[@bobp5356]

I had a 2005 Mustang. The owner of the dealer ordered one for me as soon as they were available. I was driving a '94 at the time and the '05 was beyond head and shoulders above the '94. It was a perfect retro design for the Mustang. Every car in existence had hard plastic interiors, even the vaunted Honda we owned. I am GD sick and tired of the "hard plastic" crap that is spewed about these cars. My car was awesome for 10 years, until I traded it for a '15.

[@svgproductions72]

I bought an stock 06 Mustang GT with a 5-speed manual earlier in 2021. First Mustang I ever purchased and always wanted one when they came out in 04 when I was 11. It’s a weekend car I’m modifying and have really enjoyed it so far! I get the flaws and hate about the car, but at the end of the day you like what you like. Great vid as usual!

[@BigHeadClan]

No the 05-09 wasn't that bad, they weren't amazing by any stretch and the Z of the era kind of bullied it but if we are talking about "sucky Mustangs" the 4th gen especially in the later half of its life cycle would get my vote. They looked pretty good but the only really impressive one was the special editions like the Cobra.

[@alexordonez6494]

A Z of that era bullied it. Yeah ok.

[@787blah]

@@alexordonez6494 hr 350z’s absolutely beat those years of mustangs.

[@PathwayPrivate]

@Lone Wolf so mad you created a make-believe situation in your head

[@christianreyes368]

As much as I love the HR power Z, I have a few friends that I raced stock for stock in my 07 GT and I didn’t lose to any of them.

[@787blah]

@@christianreyes368 please stop. The power to weight ratio and power delivery of a hr is way better than those years of mustangs.

[@theZDOME]

Without watching the video may I just say they don’t suck. It’s a good platform to build off of. Just have to come in knowing it’ll take more upgrades all around than a newer car

[@gsxr1189]

They don't suck if you're a poor and cannot afford better otherwise they do.

[@theZDOME]

@@gsxr1189 I think you should re-read my comment mate😅 and a fully built one doesn’t suck even if you have money for better, a buddy in Austin wrecks brand new mustangs with his 06

[@gsxr1189]

@@theZDOME Unless he's beating new GT500's or even 13-14 GT500's then it isn't that much to speak of is it.

[@theZDOME]

@@gsxr1189 runs 8.6s in the quarter

[@gsxr1189]

@@theZDOME Takes a serious amount of mods to get 3V to 8.6. If you're going to spend that much $$ on mods you'd be better off starting with something else like a better car.

[@zombieman717]

I've had my 2010 3v for almost 2 years and love it every time I get behind the wheel. It looks good and it feels good. Not to mention that the roush catback on these cars sound pretty good.

[@Ohwellitsnotthatimportant]

So you bought a year too soon and are in denial about the idiotic choice?

[@evhfanatic]

@@Ohwellitsnotthatimportant That wasn’t an idiotic choice. I have a 2010 myself and I don’t regret buying it at all. I have full exhaust,gears,full bolt ons and Make enough rwhp and torque to get into trouble with.

[@Ohwellitsnotthatimportant]

@@evhfanatic weak

[@evhfanatic]

@@Ohwellitsnotthatimportant pitiful

[@only738]

The 3v’s are fun cars for the budget.

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

Most definitely kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@Skitter302]

The S197 was quite the Facelift from the 2nd, 3rd and 4th gen cars. The front clip very reminiscent to the First gen Mustangs. It has all the right shapes and lines that form the Mustang image.

[@frozenflame8319]

I actually really like these 197 gen V8s because it was the Last Proper Mustang made

[@talinegle6182]

2v and 3v might not be great for power NA .. but the sound of a cammed 2v/3v compared to a 5.0 is a deal-breaker for me

[@DEATH_893]

That 800hp Club license plate frame though...

[@lohostege]

This is one one of my favorite mustang, asides from the 60's stangs. I kinda grew with '05-'09 stangs, so, yeah

[@justa3valve]

I love my 3 valve, engine has held up really good. Modding it has been a learning experience but very rewarding

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

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[@erics8192]

anybody else think this will be a popular restomod choice in 20-30 years?

[@ericswires8534]

Yes. I do think they will be sought after in the future. Just hope it’s not going to end up being a LS conversion like everything else under the sun.

[@erics8192]

@@ericswires8534 LS will be outdated by then, maybe the LT though

[@AL0tT0Handle]

You are the factor that pushed me over the edge to purchase my 2019 Coyote 10 speed automatic this past summer. THANK YOU!!! I’ve been a car admirer since I can remember and am working towards truly LEARNING more and developing into a true “car enthusiast.” It was a huge, terrifying step to take (most expensive thing I e ever purchased, collectively, in my 31 years) but I adore this car and am so proud to have her! You present information about these vehicles in an easy to follow way and I so appreciate that!

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

How does mine sound bro kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@the302ghost]

The S197 will always be one of my favorite mustang generations

[@shooterscott]

I picked an 05 up for my son when he turned 16. It had low mileage and is in really good shape. He’s in love with it and is learning so much about cars and doing his own mods. No it doesn’t have all the power of some, but it sounds amazing and it’s all he needs for now.

[@Mattix427]

I love my S197. I have all the suspension mods and it's mostly stock. It's been a great car, I really don't mind the plastic and I have the red leather interior. Sadly my transmission went out in the process of moving. I had to leave it 650 miles away and couldn't sleep until I picked up a trailer. 1300 miles across 3 states to recover.

[@wwjnz9263]

Im contemplating finding a high milage '05 as a project car.... I like the '05 - '09 S197s. Seeing I can get one for dirt cheap, has me excited about doing this.

[@lifeonadime4703]

Glad to see you do sort of a review of whiteline suspension. Iv wondered how it would handle as they make stuff now for sn95s too and almost pulled the trigger on the brand instead of bmr when I had my 02 gt. Now, when I get an 05-09, I know what I'll be running. Never again, will I go full spherical on a daily. Ever...again lol

[@TH_ANDY]

Nice video. 08 gt owner here. Im starting to see the nostalgia train appreciation for my car. Ive gotten alot of nice car i remember these comments lately

[@joeyharris98]

it looks better than all the mustangs made after that, even the updated s197's in 2010

[@LONEWOLF-rq5tl]

I own an 06 mustang GT with the 4.6 but it's NOT stock whatsoever and It's black and just absolutely sick looking. My mustang gets so many compliments DAILY and it sounds so dang good when it's just sitting there camming and it turns heads like crazy but let me tell you,that thing is wicked FAST like no joke so people can hate all they want to but it says otherwise. I really like my car ALOT which is all that matters and people seem to really like it so as i said, people can say what they want.

[@jrodthegreat1]

I love the 4.6 mod motors of any year. The sound of the 2v and the 4v is crazy sexy

[@typicalwrx]

S197 is probably my favorite modern mustang

[@cstephenson9223]

I love the coyote and miss my 2012 gt but man those 4.6’s with exhaust do sound soo good👍

[@TheJMan1K]

People hate on these cars N/A but I will say for the price they can be very competitive. I’ve seen a fully gutted 370whp 3V weighing around 2600-700# pull on a ten speed.

[@witherouz]

Give it about 5 more years when you can get the gts for under 5k, people will be flocking to these for project chassis, since a coyote swap is so easy in them. They basically have the same engine bay and mounting points as the 2010-2014 mustangs, and Ford is pretty plug and play with everything else, you'll have these be the next big swap cars

[@fatdan172501]

They were that cheap, everything went up.

[@crazyDave590]

@@fatdan172501 I bought mine a year and a half ago, put 30k miles on it and can still get more then what I paid it's great. We just ignore the fact I've spent far too much modding it

[@teggsrb18c1]

Ehhh, maybe. Not all S197’s accept the Coyote like you think they would. There’s a lot of videos from Lund Racing about 5.0 swapped S197’s, look into it, it’s not all puppies and sunshine to get them up and running properly. Some years the wiring harness is completely incompatible with the 5.0, you’d have to gut the entire car and start from scratch….at that point, why choose an early S197? I’d go Fox or SN95 before all that headache.

[@christopherbrooke2142]

@@crazyDave590 same, bought mine for 12 when it had 52k miles. I’m at 79k now but I’m also 10k into it in mods lol

[@Rougelifestyle]

I think the 4.6 sounds too good with the right set up as well I love my 4.6, 500whp on 8psi I love coyote as well, it's fun being the underdog in style

[@JessSimpson1313]

I really like this video. I grew up in the 90s and learned how to drive stick in my dad's 85GT, my first car was a 90LX 5.0. Watching the evolution of the mustang from the fox -> s197 I remember my friends and I having very similar discussions when the 4.6 came out in 96, basically the sohc 2v was a great first engine, but it was very challenging to get anything out of it vs the 4v Cobra engines. I still have my 94 Cobra, which was my dream car as it was the first mustang that could handle (relative to the time) as the 94 was the first year of all disc brakes, and the cobra had the 13" brakes, as well as my daily 2020GT performance pack. The handling of the s550 is so night and day different that it was the first new Mustang that I knew I needed to buy one of. Thank you for the great video.

[@GolfCoyote]

That license plate frame is….interesting.

[@evdevd9881]

I just bought one yesterday, it's my first mustang (I've always had imports) and I have to say it's fairly fun to drive sounds incredible and Mines black on black with a gt500 hood it looks great.

[@joyceofdriving4954]

I like the S197 a lot. I still think it's one of the best looking Mustang designs apart from the 60's Stang's. I own a 2019 GT and still like the looks more, minus the interior and tail lights.

[@guyelluzzi2705]

People can't seem to appreciate these cars for what they were in the context of the time they were created. This was the Mustang that started the modern retro movement in the car industry. The S197 is a 40th anniversary update of the original 64/65 reimagined for the early 2000s. As a nostalgia throwback, Ford hit it out of the park and it's great as it is.

[@Hetoo0ld]

I’ve had mine since 2012. Gone through 4 different exhaust setups. Two suspension setups. Currently planning the 3rd. On3 Turbo from 2018-2021. Paxton Novi 1200 from 2021 till now. Still working the kinks out of the current setup. Definitely holds a special place in my heart. Literally started the retro pony car phase.

[@hellostranger2269]

Why did you go from on3 to pazton?

[@Hetoo0ld]

I’m located in Atlanta and the roads just aren’t built for a lowered mustang with an On3 setup. I don’t even run an aggressive lowered suspension either. It’s pretty tamed. I was running 8lbs of boost making about 450hp. Shorty Headers, BBK Throttle body and Holley Sniper Intake. It was fun but I knew I hated the scraping, and I hated how much it changed my exhaust notes. Plus I knew I wanted a safe 510-525hp. The On3 Kit looks good but has Frankenstein fitment too. Sold it got my Paxton, a set of pypes LT headers, & Ford HotRod Cams. Slapped everything on over 5 days. Dyno’d 511 easy on the first with spark plug issues because the car had been sitting 6 months before starting the build. I love it so much better now. Plan on adding intercooler, smaller pulley and 410 gears.

[@WhoThisGuy515]

@@Hetoo0ld I thought about an On3 for my 07 GT but didn't like how they run the piping under the subframe and control arms, which i'm guessing is what you're talking about in your post.

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

Love my Vortech V3 supercharged GT sounds amazing with 500rwhp on low boost kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@bantuboi3131]

This was the Mustang(Saleen modified) they used for the 2007 Transformers movie as an evil cop car. For that reason alone, this gen is iconic. Barricade ftw🙌🚔

[@GTQuicksilver__S197]

I love my 08 GT 3v the body style and sound are awesome power wise 12.6et@114mph in the 1/4 mile is fast enuff

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

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[@adoniskennethbrooks3454]

Yes, it is. Fast enough.

[@michalsniadala1667]

my dream car love the way they look

[@itstroydh]

That era GT500 is my favorite modern mustang.

[@joshuakhaos4451]

The GT500s from this era still look so damn good even now. Hell, all of the gt500s based on the S197 platform look amazing and have aged amazingly well. Controversial take here.. But I think the current GT500 is ugly and unappealing to me in so many ways(The pitiful fuel mileage is my biggest detractor). Yet.. The 07-09 and the 2010-2014 GT500s are superior in terms of looks and usability. They are nowhere as powerful, but they are cars that will age out gracefully and a car that someone can live with as a 2nd or 3rd car and actually use.

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share can’t beat the sound

[@methardris]

I bought a 2009 “Bullitt” 4.6 3v two weeks ago. I love it. I live in holland/the Netherlands. Owning one here is quite a difference in status compared to the usa. They’re a rare sight. They go between €15000/25.000 and fuel here costs 9 dollars a gallon.

[@crownhic6827]

V8 with rwd is always a win.

[@shtopfl5247]

Despite the obvious issues the S197 has a soft spot in my heart, in 07 we took a longer drive on the autobahn (I live in Germany) and it was an experience hearing the motor scream at 150ish mph. I loved it I was 17 by the time and it definitely left a mark in my memories and additionally mustangs aren’t that common here except the current Mustangs that ford sells here too which made it more special so I love the car and it nails the sound ❤️😄

[@emielcors]

Man my 3v makes me feel fast by the deep growly sound of it, it's not the fastest ever but in the small streets in europe it's perfect for a lot of fun!

[@ericswires8534]

What side is the steering wheel on ? 😅

[@emielcors]

@@ericswires8534 I live in the netherlands, it was imported when it still had only 17 km's on it so it's on the left side!

[@GTO_JO]

If the 3 valve bodystyle had the 5.0 it would be a wicked car

[@Cali4.6]

Got an 08 gt/cs and so far I can say suspension is a must, however its a very fun car for me being 20 and wanting more hp.

[@perry7771]

Man! Thank you for that review. I'm looking at a 2009 Mustang GT/CS right now. She has over 100,000 and a few owners, but running strong 💪! Your advice was awesome. 😃

[@marktiny8928]

My 09 gt cs ran 13.6 @ 104 consistently with 3.31 rear gear. Fun cars for their time

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

Good cars bro ! Let me know if you think mine sounds good or not ? kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@Jedi391]

Fun cars for anytime.

[@JohnDoe-nz9jy]

Those Cars are good bang for your buck rn. They make sense at the price point

[@RockstarAbk9]

Prefer 03-04 Mach 1’s & termis but I’d definitely love a 3v

[@ThatDudeinBlue]

Terminator new edge master race

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

Still hard to beat a supercharged 3v in terms of price, power and definitely sound!🤙🏻 kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@RockstarAbk9]

@@iAmMighty-Frieza fax super dope

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

@@RockstarAbk9 appreciate it brother 🤘🏻

[@liquidleopard4495]

When the 2005 Mustang came out, I went and made someone an offer on his Mach 1. Looks *so* much better than the 2005 brick on wheels.

[@1Low550]

2V,3V,4V some of the greatest sounding V8s forsure

[@Tammacazi10]

The 4.6 is a great engine. It may not be the most powerful, but it will last as long as you want it to. Personally, I like the way it sounds better than any of the modern Mustangs/Chargers. It just has that throaty old school V8 sound that kind of went away recently. Nothing but love for the 4.6!

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

Love the sound of mine bro !kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@jayc9509]

My favorite thing on the s197 was the introduction of the hydraulic clutch. From the old cable clutch...

[@WhoThisGuy515]

I loved my 07 GT, bought it because it was the closest to a 1st gen in styling and sound. The 10-12 just look a little to (bubbly?) for me and the coyote is a great performer but doesn't have that classic sound. I was the second owner and sold it with 160k miles on it due to health reasons at the time but would definitely buy another. I put Detroit Rocker cams, CAI, CMP deletes (don't do this), stainless long tubes, OR H-pipe with dumps in front of the axle, short throw with the aluminum DS and 4.30 gears. Dyno'd at 315whp and 295wtrq at 6 grand, was still gaining but forgot to tell the tuner to rev higher.

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

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[@WhoThisGuy515]

Mine was louder and much deeper toned due to being dumped under the car. Video does it no justice on just how loud it is but when i picked it up he started it in his shop and it was rattling the walls. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fH6Yl32hab5siac

[@onlyfacts3502]

Picked up an 05 GT 4.6L, and I absolutely fell in love with the car. I still own a Mopar, but the aftermarket support I have found for my 5th gen is absolutely INSANE!

[@iandavis8755]

I owned a 2005 GT Premium, and really enjoyed it. It got fantastic fuel economy on the highway, and it made decent power, and most interesting, was how comfortable it was to drive long distances. The only thing that sucked, was operating the clutch in stop and go city traffic. I changed the speakers in mine to Infinity Reference, and added an Infinity Basslink subwoofer to the trunk, all of which were a big improvement over the stock Shaker 500 stereo. Those cars were cheap, comfortable fun, and while I bought mine 2nd hand with low km's on it, it only cost me $27,900 CAD...unlike now where it is possible to spend closer to double that amount. A great starter vehicle for enthusiasts to wrench on and modify as they see fit.

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

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[@dan_lazaro]

The comments on this video are so supportive of the Mustang that this car probably went up a couple slots on my bucket list of cars to own.

[@alanoxo6456]

tbh i got my 3v for the exhaust note n realized long ago prices were dropping so i had my eye on them hopefully i can get a 3rd gen 5.0 so i can keep the miles off the 3v first car i owned under my name gotta keep it forever lol

[@iAmMighty-Frieza]

They sound badass mine sounds amazing kzbin.infoFh4MoS9Vwo0?feature=share

[@derrickhead]

its the bug in the back seat at 3:18 for me lmao