Does the 2019 Challenger Scatpack Shaker make more power?

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RacerX

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@goffcdvii
@goffcdvii 5 жыл бұрын
The widebody also has he heat extractor's on the hood, like the hellcat, that could also make a difference.
@garyking1062
@garyking1062 5 жыл бұрын
EnderKing407 true that
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
That could also be a factor 👍
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@philipdrake2343 3 жыл бұрын
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@blackice7408
@blackice7408 5 жыл бұрын
For the 345 hemi (except the 392), its completely useless because its been found that the stock intake for the rt engine is more than enough. With the shaker, you will actualy experience hotter intake temps because the engine bay is completely sealed "no venting", the shaker scoop sits directly over the engine - trappong the intense heat in, and the intake filter is not completely sealed. But if you open the headlight air intake, air will flow straight to the filter and will help reduce intake air temps
@chuckiegsdodgegarage7422
@chuckiegsdodgegarage7422 5 жыл бұрын
You can also knock out the Drives side plastic cap in the center of the head lgt. Also there is a cut out on the bottom front side of the air box just for this. So now the shaker has 3 air ports.
@jasonvelez7317
@jasonvelez7317 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with the "extractor" logic. More, more fuel, more whatever doesn't equal more performance. It's about balance. Shaker has more intake air but that air is going into a constricted hotter space. Great test guys! Thanks for demo-ing this.
@markurbancowboy
@markurbancowboy 4 жыл бұрын
The widebody's stock air filter box is closed and keeps more heat out - it's basically a better system for keeping engine heat out than the open filter box system which might look better but doesn't keep the heat out as good.
@nrd515
@nrd515 5 жыл бұрын
Best bang for the buck is the Hellcat airbox and filter with the pipe going to the headlight hole. I got the box, tube, and filter for about $85, and it took about 5 min to install. same peak temp as stock non-shaker, but the temp drops quicker and it ends up a little lower once it bottoms out. I added a Genpartsco screen in the headlight hole to keep leaves and junk out. I think it was $20.
@joesnowb
@joesnowb 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 scat pack with the normal RT hood. The average air intake temp to outside air temp was 10 degrees. I installed the hellcat air box and headlight tube and now the average difference is 5 degrees.
@vegaswould
@vegaswould 4 жыл бұрын
the shaker airbox technically has 4 intake points. the 2 you mentioned, the bottom of the airbox, as well as the top that's exposed allowing you to see the filter. don't let that "rubber seal" fool you. it is there for looks. it doesn't seal to the hood. Heat soak is a very big issue with shaker models because of that. Most of that filter is ingesting a lot of engine bay heat. I used some cheap weather stripping for a temporary fix. made a HUGE difference with air intake temps. i'm thinking about making a more permanent seal with some flex seal "sculpting". I've had the pleasure of being able to talk to an SRT engineer. He told me that the scat pack shaker model makes 15 more horsepower at 45 mph. He said the T/A hood makes "a little more", but did not say how much. I assume this info is disregarding that huge airbox problem on shaker models. What do you think?
@thafoehammer143
@thafoehammer143 5 жыл бұрын
You can get a hellcat headlight intake tube. It pulls air through the headlight into that hole in the front of your air box.
@mikepoint4983
@mikepoint4983 5 жыл бұрын
Like always fantastic job , I just love these comparisons that you do . Keep them coming and would ya ever do a live stream . Cheers
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Point .. thank you my friend
@johnrambo2876
@johnrambo2876 3 жыл бұрын
Aside from the heat extractors and closed air box, two other items to consider... Is Al's throttle body larger 7:33 vs 7:46 or is that an illusion? Could Al's straight exhaust set up allow for cooler under-hood temps as well?
@RELLTOREAL
@RELLTOREAL 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 8K u rockin and rolling I’m very proud that u stuck wit it and never gave blessing brother only up from here
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
RELL TO REAL .. thanks buddy .. sorry I missed this back when you posted it. Hope you are doing well my friend 👍
@speedracer4229
@speedracer4229 5 жыл бұрын
What? No drag race?? We wanna see how they stack up.
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
Lol.. we need to get em out and run em.. although I believe it would definitely be a drivers race 👍
@speedracer4229
@speedracer4229 5 жыл бұрын
@@RacerX9 I saw the dirtiest 2019 Challenger Scat Pack sitting at Walmart in RC a couple of days ago. Wonder who it belongs too...lol. I was looking for the owner to let them know that there was a car wash across the street. LMAO
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
Haha sounds like the wife 😂😂
@christophermarks4752
@christophermarks4752 5 жыл бұрын
You should try the hellcat lower air box and the headlight tube on the wide body. I have it on my 2015 challenger and it helps a lot. And it does not cost a lot of money.
@microminiskirt
@microminiskirt 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the 1320 Scat Pack Challenger already have the Hellcat headlight intake?
@christophermarks4752
@christophermarks4752 5 жыл бұрын
@@microminiskirt oh I did not know that it came with it.
@microminiskirt
@microminiskirt 5 жыл бұрын
@@christophermarks4752 it's so confusing trying to configure this Challenger Scat pack on the Dodge website. I know the Dynamic Package is a must because you want the wider tires and wheels because the 392 spins out the standard wheels it comes with. I believe the 1320 already comes with the Dynamic package. But I want a functional hood that releases the heat or a hood that will take in cold air but that won't make a difference if one already had the headlight intake. I was told that the hood scoop for $2,200 is a cosmetic option but on here it looks very functional. I just wonder if on the regular Scat Pack Challenger which hood comes on it?
@christophermarks4752
@christophermarks4752 5 жыл бұрын
@@microminiskirt I bought mine in 2015 before there were so many options. I would definitely suggest the wider tires. Mine came with 245s and they are definitely to small for the power. I have looked at the hellcat hood for mine just for looks.
@scarface9617
@scarface9617 5 жыл бұрын
@@microminiskirt this isn't a 1320' he's showing!
@brad1356
@brad1356 2 жыл бұрын
When you wash this car, do you cover up the inlets on shaker intake to not get water in there? Or are you just mindful not to spray directly into it? How big of a deal is that?
@bobbaker2313
@bobbaker2313 5 жыл бұрын
I think the new hellcat style hood is pulling more heat out of the engine compartment. It’s really the only explanation.
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
bob baker ... you might be on to something 👍
@RandomAzzUtubea
@RandomAzzUtubea 5 жыл бұрын
The CAI on the shaker has a spot for a Hell Cat intake setup and the part only costs about $50, without that setup your sucking in more hot air from the engine bay rather than through the headlight inlet like on a hellcat.
@hemihead392
@hemihead392 5 жыл бұрын
I also live in a hot and humid area (DAs run 2k+ at sea level) in the summer. I have a '18 scat (no shaker) with the HC box/air tube and HC Mahle LX3482 filter and as long as the car is moving it runs +5 to10 deg. over ambient even in 95/95 heat and RH. During winter with cool dry air it runs
@yeahsure8323
@yeahsure8323 Жыл бұрын
At idle the shaker had a lower temp and that’s honestly more important
@99Eternal
@99Eternal 5 жыл бұрын
The widebody's hood is keeping his engine compartment cooler the shaker is instead piping that air directly to the intake resulting in more air but at slightly higher temperatures. The shaker obviously would make more power from cold start to heat soak and although warmer it is still getting more air once the engine is at temp so it would be close at that point. Had the cars been cold started and normally driven without a 10 min heatsoaked idle I think temperature wise the results would be different.
@microminiskirt
@microminiskirt 5 жыл бұрын
So get a regular Scat Pack with Dynamic Package option and that should take care of the larger tires in rear so rear end doesn't break loose. Also what about the adaptive suspension option? The website does not specify which hood the Scat Pack comes with unless you pick the "Shaker" option for $2,200 or the $6,000 "Widebody" option.
@scarface9617
@scarface9617 5 жыл бұрын
@@microminiskirt what tires come with that package on the car.. what gears!?
@99Eternal
@99Eternal 5 жыл бұрын
@@microminiskirt she'll break loose with the dynamics package lol. I would get the dynamics package either way because that may be enough for you and if not you can sell the oem wheels and get factory reproductions replicas 9.5" in front and 10.5" and use your 275 pirellis for fronts and buy a set of 305 drag radials or good sticky summers for the rear. The adaptive suspension is not going to be of much use to you on the street. It just allows you to stiffen the suspension. The drag mode of the 1320 would be cool but the sport and track modes stiffen the rear and which is not really what you want for a good launch for a good 0-60. Its more for cornering improvement.
@Flores9989
@Flores9989 3 жыл бұрын
Shaker + widebody would be nice
@johnnykilroy9399
@johnnykilroy9399 5 жыл бұрын
I installed the 2019 hellcat upper and lower grill with the intake tubing and my intake temps are around 3-4 degrees different between outside temps. From idle to crushing temps drop drastically quicker than from stock. Can’t wait until it gets cooler to really feel the power
@lime2010
@lime2010 5 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for some dig races would be fun to see but as always great content 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@jhenry248
@jhenry248 5 жыл бұрын
Engine heat extraction is just as important as air induction. I'm wondering if the shaker pan is prohibiting air flow in the engine bay, especially over the intake manifold.
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
jhenry248 .. I actually wondered the same thing. It’s hard to say exactly what factors contributed to these results
@alfredoserralles5396
@alfredoserralles5396 4 жыл бұрын
The key here is heat extraction thats what makes the real difference!
@dubd9946
@dubd9946 4 жыл бұрын
would it make sense for the Shaker to cool down even lower depending on your speed? maybe faster air makes a difference? that may explain the quick cool down during acceleration. just a thought.
@thehomiewiththebenzo1829
@thehomiewiththebenzo1829 Жыл бұрын
It does cool down when going faster, I had my IAT at 70-77 degrees when i was traveling at 145-160 mph and about 80-85 degrees at 120-140 mph
@728GT
@728GT 5 жыл бұрын
You need the headlight tube. I also want to know what the difference would have been at WOT.
@bobbaker2313
@bobbaker2313 5 жыл бұрын
Could u just run some tubing straight from the headlight to the air box? Seems like u could go to lowes and buy some tubing.
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
For sure 728.. Yes I think that’s the hellcat kit that’s like $50.. probably worth the investment 👍
@dustinplemmons
@dustinplemmons 5 жыл бұрын
@@RacerX9 Headlight tube is from a T/A Challenger.
@americanpower1071
@americanpower1071 5 жыл бұрын
The widebody has heat extract hood so the engine compartment go to be more cooler than the shaker , and the shaker when the engine get the highest temperature all the sistem go to be hot but the air volume always goes up on the shaker, and RacerX at the shaker sistem you can add the headlight duct to the intake box and get triple air ramps and more cooler air go to in that the shaker ramp because when the air passes shaker sistem go to heat the air incoming, check later this thing is a genuine mopar part and it is made especially for shakers is around $60 cost and very easy mod only remove the headlight cap (it looks like a bulb but is only a cap on the center of headlights is the same at the both sides )Im personality removed left and right the passenger side no go to the intake but help to could down the temperature on the engine compartment, it go to drop the temperature on hot days but on could days you go to gets 10 or 15 degrees less than widebody 😉👍
@microminiskirt
@microminiskirt 5 жыл бұрын
On the 2019 I understand that the Hellcat headlight intake does not fit these models anymore. Headlight is different now.
@microminiskirt
@microminiskirt 4 жыл бұрын
So to equalize the "Shaker" option and get more cool air to engine area remove both (2) caps on both headlights to get cooler air wheras to equalize the standard scatpack hood that has as 2 heat extractors on the top of the hood? Or can you hook up that one CAI intake to the drive side light and direct it to the open air filter for the cold air direct to air filter and have that one passenger side light open for cold air to cool engine so then the car with shaker will get 2 sources of air from top and from front driver air intake hooked into open air filter?
@dwightraine9686
@dwightraine9686 3 жыл бұрын
Nice impressive test, I would’ve thought the shaker would flow more air, with two inlets. Interesting, The shaker still looks better.
@jonathanh650
@jonathanh650 5 жыл бұрын
I have the hellcat airbox + filter and usually see like 5-10 degrees difference but might be because I live in the Bay Area 🤷‍♂️
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Huato .. yes the hellcat box is a great mod and doesn’t really cost all that much
@ELTACHY1
@ELTACHY1 5 жыл бұрын
What an awesome video. Thanks for doing what you do. I've been researching these cars and sometimes reading specs just doesn't cut it
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
No worries my friend 👍
@bahnkla4
@bahnkla4 5 жыл бұрын
If 58 people have already said this then I apologize but there is a 3rd air intake on the scat pack shaker. If you remove the air filter you will see air is fed in from the front lower grill and comes in the bottom of the air box. Love the vids
@anthonymckinnon7037
@anthonymckinnon7037 Ай бұрын
I understand. 5 yr. ago posting. It is cool where i live and intake temp is never anywhere near what he is talking about. I do monitor Transmission temp before Letting her Breathe, what a monster. And I can feel it and I can hear that big Mother "clear her Throat " i get a kick out of the intake roar and then it puts down the best acceleration noise a big V 8 can. End of an Eara?
@ScatPackRob
@ScatPackRob 5 жыл бұрын
I have the air inlet from the headlight to the stock Scat Pack air box giveing my car 3 sources of inlet air. When I tested before and after adding the headlight air inlet there was no difference in IAT while at idle. Once the car started to move IAT reduced a little quicker with the headlight tube. After a minute or 2 the IAT with the headlight tube may have been a degree cooler but it was pretty close. Glad to see you got the catch can installed, that position looks familiar 👍
@scarface9617
@scarface9617 5 жыл бұрын
Can you tell any difference in the performance!?
@kenxiong6830
@kenxiong6830 5 жыл бұрын
Due to aerodynamics, the air flys over the shaker. It’s pretty much there for cosmetic since it’s not directly connected to the intake plenums.
@greganderson1989
@greganderson1989 5 жыл бұрын
The extractors on the Hellcat hood vent heat out of the engine compartment while the Hellcat hood inlet forces outside across the engine for cooling. IMVHO
@glockmodder
@glockmodder 5 жыл бұрын
Im from dallas tx and you know its hot as hell here when its 95* and you are happy its not that hot of a day !
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
Very true Clint 👍
@Pondsisawesome124
@Pondsisawesome124 2 жыл бұрын
Did you guys remove the "shaker" decal under the hood or did it not come with one?
@vegaswould
@vegaswould 5 жыл бұрын
I talked to an SRT engineer about the stock cold air intakes. He told me that the shaker on a scat pack adds 15 horsepower at 45 mph over the standard scat pack. He also told me that the T/A 392 cold air intake "is a little better" although he didn't say how much better. He mentioned that if you add that headlight tube on the shaker model, it's just as good as the T/A cold air intake. That being said.... My personal experience with the shaker doesn't quite seem like it makes a difference as the heat soak is incredible here in Las Vegas. Sealing that shaker airbox to the hood makes a HUGE difference on air intake temps. heat soak is still a problem, but not nearly as bad as before. I used standard weather stripping to seal the airbox to the hood. I'll eventually move to a better solution, but it's a great temporary fix for the shaker's "Hot Air Intake" system. I think the main issue with the shaker is, all the "shaker parts" get pretty hot and heat up the cool air on the way to the airbox. I added thermal tape on the bottom of my shaker and it made absolutely no difference. maybe a thermal blanket for exhaust might work better, but it's hard to say. that tube going from the shaker to the airbox needs to be wrapped too.That widebody comes with the hellcat hood, which vents the heat from under the hood really well, which would help the heat soak issue a bit too.
@microminiskirt
@microminiskirt 5 жыл бұрын
"That widebody comes with the hellcat hood, which vents the heat from under the hood really well, which would help the heat soak issue a bit too". THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT. So if I do a "Build your own" on the Dodge website and on the Scat Pack Challenger don't select the "shaker" option or the "Wide Body" option which hood do I get on the regular Scat Pack Challenger? Is it a non-functional old SRT hood? OR Am I better off selecting the 1320 Challenger Scat Pack even though I won't be doing that kind of driving burnouts (computer program) but need the fastest 0-60 time to get onto the freeway ramp? Is it a waste to order the 1320 Challenger Scat Pack for this kind of driving on the street using the factory all season tires?
@robbyturbo109
@robbyturbo109 5 жыл бұрын
XXX my impression was all scatpaks come with the old hellcat hood
@vegaswould
@vegaswould 5 жыл бұрын
@@microminiskirt all new scat packs come with the old hellcat hood. The exception is the shaker package and the T/A package.
@microminiskirt
@microminiskirt 5 жыл бұрын
I LIke the Hellcat hood the best. It must have drainage for rain?. That shaker gets in the way of a lot of things in engine compartment and changing the oil.
@nealpheiffer379
@nealpheiffer379 5 жыл бұрын
Pp
@marksmith732
@marksmith732 5 жыл бұрын
I made a lid for my airbox out of thin tin and take out the headlight blank for cool air. The lid helps keep engine bay heat out and headlight blank lets more cool air hit the front opening on airbox. Also did you know the bottom of the box is open? The air that is pushed in for brake cooling runs right there.
@danmagill7616
@danmagill7616 5 жыл бұрын
I would hope there would be an actual benefit from the additional cost of the shaker besides just “shaking” but apparently not.
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
It may just be aesthetic
@tedszweb5268
@tedszweb5268 4 жыл бұрын
The funny thing to me is that the new ones in contrast to 60’s & 70’s are so well built you don’t get the Shaker Effect. 😀
@michaelcorleone6665
@michaelcorleone6665 5 жыл бұрын
RacerX you always make a great video well explain 👍
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Michael 🤜🔥🔥
@aharoncharach4843
@aharoncharach4843 3 жыл бұрын
I think I know why, cuz the Widebody has the closed intake box so when cruising around it has a cooler affect vs. the Shaker it’s an open cool intake so when idling it’s actually cooler but when you have a air flow it doesn’t contain the air as much, also might be cuz the Shaker is a lil older, what do you think @RacerX
@conspiracybrothergreene2969
@conspiracybrothergreene2969 5 жыл бұрын
The hellcat hood is pulling more air out of the hood which is why it was on the hellcat. The shaker is more of a ram air system.
@microminiskirt
@microminiskirt 5 жыл бұрын
wHAT the difference between the shaker option scat pack Challenger and the 1320 Scat Pack Challenger? Which Challenger between these two will be faster getting on the freeway ramp (0-60 MPH) using the regular factory all season tires? The regular Scat Pack with Shaker option or without shaker option would have the "Dynamic Option"-larger wheel option. The 1320 has the air intake in the headlight up front? Note this car would be used for commuting so the drag race mode would not be used in the 1320 but in both cars (whether shaker option or no option ) the transmission would be left in "Drive". Also on that Scat Pack WB is that the factory Hellcat hood? If so perhaps that's why his car cooled down faster and more than the shaker because of those air extractors on the hood? Can you get that very same Hellcat hood on the regular Scat Pack without the Shaker option? Or does that Scat Pack Challenger come with a non functioning SRT hood?
@99Eternal
@99Eternal 5 жыл бұрын
If you go on dodges site they list the additions each trim level brings. At least they did in 2018. The scat pack is the more street oriented trim the 1320 is more track oriented (1320ft = 1/4 mile). If you are never going to put the car in sport or track or drag mode or take it to the track then the scat pack is probably better for you. If you get the scat pack you will not want the smaller tires. I got dynamics package on mine and the 275 pzero nero are still not enough on the rear. So keep that in mind, because the tires on the rear are probably the best upgrade you can do to improve 0-60. You will want 305 drag radials on the rear if you want the best 0-60 on the street, and you'll need wider wheels than the dynamics package offers to fit them properly. Guys are putting 305s on the oem hellcat(dynamics pkg) wheels and they arent getting any more rubber on the ground than the 275s cuz they bulge on the 9.5" wheels. This will also cause them to wear unevenly and prematurely. Factory Reproductions makes identical wheels in 10.5" which is probably the route ill be going on mine.
@scarface9617
@scarface9617 5 жыл бұрын
My in-law has the 1320! the car comes factory with a set of drag slicks on the car, don't come with regular all season tires.. and the suspension is what makes the car, it has very soft suspension, it's just like the demons.. ~"it's definitely a dragstrip car, the 0-60 is much faster and the 1/4 also.. that's what the 1320'.. is made for!"
@microminiskirt
@microminiskirt 4 жыл бұрын
The SP WB Challenger got lower temps because of the two air extractors on top of the hood. The shaker Challenger just has a plain flat hood for no hot air to escape or to get in cool air to engine for cooler temps. Also since air filter is not in a fully sealed box some of that hot air from engine compartment gets into airbox to contribute to higher temps. The closed airbox keeps the heat out better. Does this all make sense????? Also note is there any way to make that center air intake fuctional that's in the middle of those two heat extractor vents on top of hood of SPWB Challenger? Or is that center air intake already functional along with those 2 functional air extractors?
@harp440
@harp440 5 жыл бұрын
I recently got a 392 scatpack shaker...cleaned air filter....the bottom of the basket is cut out exposing the lower section of front end
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
stan harp .. yes I noticed that as well 🤜🔥🔥
@lasagnajohn
@lasagnajohn 5 жыл бұрын
Huh? What? weird, never noticed that.
@jackeddaniel242
@jackeddaniel242 3 жыл бұрын
May have something to do with the color of the shaker, I would guess that a white shaker would would absorb less heat and transfer less heat to the air it’s pulling in.
@astcomjakecw
@astcomjakecw 4 жыл бұрын
You're forgetting his car has active engine bay cooling from that 2019 hood, and pulls in air mostly from under the car. The shaker pulls it in mostly from the engine bay, and just above the hood , which is in the sun and already hot from the radiant engine heat. Its also worth mentioning that the shaker hood is really more for looks than function when you consider its inlet design. Its by no means a cold air intake. I dont feel 'surprising' is the word here... Try it with an earlier model challenger like the 2015-2018 with the previous style hoods that dont have so much venting.
@axelcaro2431
@axelcaro2431 5 жыл бұрын
On my 19 Scat Pack Shaker I added the Mopar Inlet Tube from the headlight to the CAI. My temps are usually only 5 degrees warmer than the outside weather temps.
@stephenguberski7519
@stephenguberski7519 5 жыл бұрын
I can confirm this- shaker + headlight gives you ambient + 5.
@electricjohn11
@electricjohn11 2 жыл бұрын
My shaker looks great! It's a possibility that the computers in the vehicles are not calibrated equally. A few degrees in temp aren't necessarily going to make or break your ride for the day. Either way. Enjoy your hot rods.
@arlandoamb6754
@arlandoamb6754 5 жыл бұрын
👏👏🔥💯. Can you bring back the old intro song? I know you moved on from it and I like the new song it's okay but I really miss the old intro music so just every now and then drop that beat for me thank you and once again I always learned a lot from watching your Channel.
@admiralrutledge9214
@admiralrutledge9214 4 жыл бұрын
Any chance you can put a time marker in your descriptions as to where the actual video topic info is? I subscribe for the meat but tend to spend more than half my time throwing bones out of your videos looking for the info I came for (lots of talking about non-topic material). Here for the comparison on the intakes, not Al’s decals, wide body, etc. I appreciate you putting in the work to educate us and share your awesome cars, just a simple request/critique.
@fowlerman1993
@fowlerman1993 5 жыл бұрын
With my wide body 392 R/T with the hellcat air box if never more than 5° more than the outside air because it is pulling from underneath the car the front turn signal intake and with those heat extractors and a functioning hood scoop wide body stays really cool
@jamesday1638
@jamesday1638 Жыл бұрын
Could the exhaust be letting out more of the heat. With the straight pipes.
@evancontos2267
@evancontos2267 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting results, most likely the intakes on the CAI sucking in hot air from engine, the wide-body also has heat extractors on the hood. I also noticed on the CAI the hole open for the drivers side light intake that is pulling hot air. Hook up to light intake like hellcat, it will help. Can you say Shaker wide-body, LOL?
@scarface9617
@scarface9617 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think the difference in the air temperatures will be any difference "noticeable" in the quarter mile!?
@keepout7439
@keepout7439 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's the exhaust and the louvers on the back window, also is his windows more tinted than the Scat Pack because if those things like exhaust are able to move air better that can have a big difference. Going fast is all about taking in air and removing it along with the air the heat is dissapatting from the engine, what's your thoughts ? I'm a heating/ac guy by trade so very understanding how air works along with cfm's at the return vent(s,) and at each register.
@LastCallSRT
@LastCallSRT 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Taylor bro the louvers helping air intake temperature... you’re the best bro in the entire comments section. Then the window tint.. i love you man.
@scarface9617
@scarface9617 5 жыл бұрын
@@LastCallSRT 🤷🏻‍♂️..👀
@jeffbendertheenforcer5834
@jeffbendertheenforcer5834 5 жыл бұрын
Ok here is the dilly .... the shaker has a whole lot of suface area to pick up engine compartment heat soak. Also the extra duct from the shaker to the filter is picking up heat soak . Here is what im thinking Paul i think if you and your buddy can get both your cars to your house or his and have both of them completely cooled off try to see what the temp is for 15 or 20 min after driving . I bet the shaker has a cooler number. 👍👍👍👍👍👊👊
@jeffbendertheenforcer5834
@jeffbendertheenforcer5834 5 жыл бұрын
Just thought of somthing ....maybe you started your test off with them both cold ...my bad ..lol.
@microminiskirt
@microminiskirt 5 жыл бұрын
The 1320 has the adaptive suspension already included in that package as well as the Dynamic Package in the 2019 Dodge website. I just want the better street car and faster car for getting on freeway ramps. I don't want to be doing burn outs at stop lights and getting attention from the police. But I want the faster 0-60 MPH Challenger. I do not see myself using that computer program for the drag strip on the street. I also want a functional hood not a fake hood scoop. I think if you order the regular Scat Pack they put on the non-functional old SRT hood but that information is not specified on the 2019 Dodge website.
@scarface9617
@scarface9617 5 жыл бұрын
Then get the regular Scat, the 1320' isn't what your looking for!
@GoGoOpie
@GoGoOpie 5 жыл бұрын
The SRT hood scoop is functional. I have a 2016.
@vidademikey9790
@vidademikey9790 3 жыл бұрын
In what way are these "about the same price point?" The shaker package is about $3k and the widebody comes in at $7k? And used the price gap is even more noticeable.
@Bryan-gn1vs
@Bryan-gn1vs 3 жыл бұрын
Me personally I like the appearance of the shaker so when I get a challenger I will be getting the shaker package
@desertdweller92
@desertdweller92 5 жыл бұрын
RacerX I took out the driver side headlight cover and my shaker air intake temp stays around +1-3 ambient temp that airbox has square cut in the front which air funnels in from the head light as well as the shaker
@larryz3985
@larryz3985 3 жыл бұрын
I had same question because of the shaker seems would make cooling better hence making more power at top end..?
@hellcatredeye-g6582
@hellcatredeye-g6582 5 жыл бұрын
If you ever want to do a Video I have the shaker and the scat pack ...And the shaker hood does work😊👍
@Guru1ofatl
@Guru1ofatl 5 жыл бұрын
While the shaker should flow more air, it sits above the engine soaking up all that heat. I wonder how it does at higher RPMs.
@gabrielpichardo1492
@gabrielpichardo1492 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think the shaker is made to cool the iat. I think its just made to shove as much air as possible down that bees throat. My explanation for the increase in heat while sitting idle is that the nostrils sit midway over the sun baked hood and also the top of its “air box” by the throttle body is the actual hot sun baked hood. However i do recognize that the shaker has room for improvement and also can be superior to the normal system at cooling down the iat by using reflective insulation and also better sealing in the airbox
@alrui
@alrui 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there, I notice the cool seatbelt covers you & your buddy both have, do those come with the Scat Pack package or?
@bubberrand
@bubberrand 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t get louvers on the rear window...
@MBailey1977
@MBailey1977 5 жыл бұрын
70s retro styling
@jeffsmystic
@jeffsmystic 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison as I've always wondered that. Looks like the stock airbox is the way to go for cooler IAT's overall. Now next test a Hellcat stock airbox versus one of the aftermarkets like JLT or LMI🙂
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
Fastman .. Thank you brother.. yes that would be an interesting comparison as well 👍
@joem6010
@joem6010 5 жыл бұрын
Should also include aFe POWER in that comparison because aFe has some of the only fully sealed intakes in addition open element intakes for most Hemi models.
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
Joe.. this is certainly something worth considering.. although I was trying to compare the stock components
@joem6010
@joem6010 5 жыл бұрын
@@RacerX9 Yes, just responding to the other suggestion. Good to know that there are still sealed aftermarket options if this is what someone prefers. You'll typically see more open-element intakes because those are simply easier and less expensive for someone to make. Message me re: exhaust testing when you get a chance.
@RSSLLWF4
@RSSLLWF4 5 жыл бұрын
I have the jlt on a 2019 Daytona 392 with hellcat air duct. JLT filter is bigger temp verses mopar intake when driving with JLT is always within 3 degrees of outside temp, were mopar was 10 degrees different, as far quickness of how fast drops when in traffic or light JLT is by far better.
@danbyrd5237
@danbyrd5237 5 жыл бұрын
Heat extraction from the Hellcat hood is the difference. Probably be a different story if that was the SRT hood.
@keithwheeler5467
@keithwheeler5467 4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen one but 8 believe they make them “a wide body shaker hood “ , I know going to get responses where you been ? Own a 2017 shaker watched tubes for a couple of years on these cars , then the wide body which Dodge should have done all along came out , mines a play car around the house a six speed , with that said , you really want to drag race these cars , u need a widebody auto , but for me the shaker six speed has to be in there , that’s old school !
@fastguned
@fastguned 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a used 2013 mustang gt that already had a cold air system. I bought a used stock air box and picked up almost a tenth and over one MPH in the 1.4. Those cold air sysyetems pull in engine heat and are useless.
@tvfilthyfern
@tvfilthyfern 5 жыл бұрын
Probably a cheaper air intake. Good cold airs need a tune and a heat guard.
@fastguned
@fastguned 5 жыл бұрын
@@tvfilthyfern Almost in all cases people install a cold air system at the same time as a tune and therefore they think the cold air helped but it's actually the tune.
@tomb8100
@tomb8100 5 жыл бұрын
Misleading title.... should be relating to intake temp not does it make more power. Just my 2 cents...
@quinnjim
@quinnjim 5 жыл бұрын
Cooler air is more dense and helps create more power.
@alechernandez5506
@alechernandez5506 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have clicked if the title talked about intake temperature lol
@HoldenMcRotch
@HoldenMcRotch Жыл бұрын
Great video! Wow, those transmission temps seem pretty high.😳 I wonder how high they go? Looks like maybe 200° max?
@tylermartin9474
@tylermartin9474 2 жыл бұрын
Should block off the 2nd intake from the engine bay so it’s only sucking from the shaker probably would drop more
@MTBRiderChick
@MTBRiderChick 5 жыл бұрын
The shaker hood brought the air temp down faster at first but, I feel the reason that the Wide Body actually ran cooler is because of the Frontal area and airflow of the Widebody Fascia in conjunction with the heat extractor hood on the Widebody actually does a much better job of keeping the ambient air temp. down in the entire engine compartment and that's where your extra 5 degrees of temp is coming front because both car are grabbing a good portion of air from the local engine compartment area. You lower the air temp in the engine compartment you ARE going see lower air inlet temps. I own a Scat Pack Shaker.
@alfredoserralles5396
@alfredoserralles5396 4 жыл бұрын
Marina you are a genius!!!
@brandonh9016
@brandonh9016 5 жыл бұрын
Do challengers come with trans coolers?
@markparadis5167
@markparadis5167 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever had any problems with the driveshaft carrier bearing or heard of other cars?
@foodram4001
@foodram4001 5 жыл бұрын
Racer x why isn’t there a 10 speed charger or Challenger... why haven’t we got one yet ???????
@r-shot8431
@r-shot8431 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video.... Love the comparison - Great Video - you make some very good content. Keep it going brother
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
R- SHOT Accessories ... I appreciate that my friend 🤜🔥🔥
@KarrielynRacho
@KarrielynRacho 5 жыл бұрын
Where did your friend get his powered by SRT grill badge been looking all over for one . All i can find is the sticker ones
@Shelby_Moe5.2
@Shelby_Moe5.2 5 жыл бұрын
Make a video of the 2019 Charger Scat Pack vs the 19’ Challenger SP Shaker
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 5 жыл бұрын
Moeez Malik .. might be an interesting comparison 👍
@davidlay5445
@davidlay5445 2 жыл бұрын
Did you have the signal light intake tube or just the open hole in the intake box?
@doctordifferentialspeedsho9506
@doctordifferentialspeedsho9506 5 жыл бұрын
How fast were you going. Do a dig or roll race and see who get the win. I’ll bet the shaker allowed more air in also. So probably needs to be moving faster for its intake system to work properly.
@MrJesustrance
@MrJesustrance 2 жыл бұрын
Put the intake piece back on the hood and seal your filter box you’ll see it colder
@nightowl32
@nightowl32 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting observation......how about hellcat to hellcat redeye?
@Jeff-or6em
@Jeff-or6em 5 жыл бұрын
I am 𝙾𝚁𝙳𝙴𝚁ing in couple weeks a 2020 Scat Pack Shacker Widebody 50th anniversary trim 😍 . Hopefully I can get 1 of the 490 available. Let see what pricing going be on them , maybe have to pay MSRP😡
@fredwilliams7893
@fredwilliams7893 2 жыл бұрын
How about the shaker vs the hell cat air box tube on a scat? I have that and wonder if that makes a difference than the stock scat pack air intake.
@PamelaTheresa
@PamelaTheresa 4 жыл бұрын
Cool video. I used to have a 2016 Shaker Scat with a 6M, traded it in for a 2019 1320. FYI, there is a snorkel tube you can buy online that will fit the square hole on the front of the shaker's airbox that connects it to the driver side inboard headlight just like the challenger Hellcat. That should reduce your air temps. Keep up the great work. I would love to see you do some real side by side compares with your shaker and a 1320. I saw the one you did at the track with the by who just bought his, but maybe if YOU did the driving against your wife, you in the 1320 and her in her shaker. I would love to see how they match up. I can say my 1320 is absolutely faster than my shaker scat was. Of course auto vs manual is a factor. But the 1320 HOOKS way better.
@geeksauthority
@geeksauthority 3 жыл бұрын
Great thought, I am planning to do that for my Shaker.
@TheMickyd70
@TheMickyd70 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been wanting a scat shaker for along time. Thinking about biting the bullet.
@cfr3830
@cfr3830 Жыл бұрын
One difference is his car has strait pipes which sheds more heat than the stock exhaust so you may try to find someone with stock car to compare
@davidaaa6427
@davidaaa6427 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this video. 👍🏼
@djpraze4420
@djpraze4420 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered if it ever did anything, the Mach 1 was supposed to have one but Ford said “it wasn’t going to make any more power, but I’m pretty sure the aftermarket community will come out with something” I hate how some companies are tryna lean to the aftermarket community to do their work.
@Retro89Dec
@Retro89Dec 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta do a new video with the widebody shaker
@datboyyoungtripp9477
@datboyyoungtripp9477 3 жыл бұрын
Your video made me go buy this car I have one now lol
@quickbrick2594
@quickbrick2594 5 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison buddy. I hadn't thought about the "Hellcat" hood with its additional heat extractors on the Widebody having an effect on IAT's at speed versus the Shaker which is essentially sealed off in terms of heat extraction, so maybe that is why the Shaker's IAT's aren't getting as low as the Widebody's when at speed? That said, if the heat extractors in the Hellcat style hood have that much of an effect on IAT's at speed, I am perplexed as to why that wouldn't translate at idle as well? Go figure...
@scarface9617
@scarface9617 5 жыл бұрын
At idle, there is not enough airflow to extract "suck" the heat out of the engine bay!
@bryce3956
@bryce3956 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to get the Shaker package but I heard that the drain holes drain onto other parts of the vehicle including onto one of the belts. Is this an issue when driving in the rain or getting a carwash?
@mdmuscle9464
@mdmuscle9464 5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video thanks for the data.
@Saiyan4658
@Saiyan4658 5 жыл бұрын
RacerX, I am close to Fort Worth and would love to meet up sometime. Maybe do a small video with my stock Gomango Hellcat!
@travistoole
@travistoole 5 жыл бұрын
RacerX reminds me of Mr Anderson/Kennedy
@scarface9617
@scarface9617 5 жыл бұрын
Yes... I always knew he look like somebody.. that's exactly who it is! He's a well-spoken guy!
@davidaaa6427
@davidaaa6427 5 жыл бұрын
He’s very pleasant and enjoyable to watch and listen to!
@dukewaldsmith2132
@dukewaldsmith2132 5 жыл бұрын
Yes he does i was thinking the same thing I'm a huge wrestling, luxury n drag car fan... But where is Mr. Kennedy these days... Kennedy...Kennedy
@willboyd8021
@willboyd8021 5 жыл бұрын
I think you need to do that test again
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