Does The Game Awards HATE Xenoblade?

[@XenoBits]

So I keep seeing the same types of comments over and over saying this video aged poorly. If you watch the video, you will see that I conclude that there is not Xenoblade bias at the Game Awards. I would recommend actually watching the video beginning to end before commenting that I "got proven wrong" or something like that.

[@lr4164]

I really hope its nominated for GOTY. Not just because it deserves it, but because of the recognition it can get as the TGAs brings in millions and millions of viewers ( last year, it was roughly 80m viewers)

[@mauriceraat2781]

It might get nominated but there no way in hell it would ever win XD. Also.. it just does not deserve it.

[@Andrea-pi4xv]

Ehhhhhh

[@mr.frankfurt4986]

A nomination is possible, likely even, but XC3 ain't winning. We are talking about the same year Elden Ring came out and took the entire mainstream by storm. GoW Ragnarok also just came out and is selling like crazy. And that's not to speak about other great stuff like Horizon: Forbidden West, Splatoon 3 or Stray. Even in the JRPG category, there is competition with the new Fire Emblem game. Edit: Hadn't seen the news about the nomination yet. As I said, it was likely.

[@corrinflakes9659]

@@mr.frankfurt4986 it got nominated for GOTY while you likely typed that (as it say 1h ago as of typing this, rn is 4:19 after the nominations)

[@rhettmitchell]

@@mr.frankfurt4986 I’m surprised fire emblem didn’t get anything like music or RPG

[@LibertarianTerriermon]

Guess the game awards are Xenophobic

[@edwardgamerx9061]

Good joke!

[@AntitoxinZero]

I can tell you've been waiting to say this for a long time

[@cbmatty9262]

The more “anime” a game is, the less likely it’ll be represented. Just nominate it Jeff you coward! We all know it’s not gonna win, just give it the nom! Edit: ITS IN BOYS!!!

[@XenoJace]

The Final Fantasy 7 Remake is probably as anime as it gets with realistic visuals, but it still got nominated.

[@cbmatty9262]

@@XenoJace nah it’s def not as “anime” as a game like xenoblade.

[@XenoBits]

Tales of Arise was nominated last year and that was pretty anime.

[@cbmatty9262]

@@XenoBits that fact just makes me even angrier. XB3 beats that game by a mile and a half.

[@monadoboy9639]

i mean the difference here is that ther wasnt many big triple A games that released this years so it has less competition i hope it gets nominated at the very least if not wins best game of the year or soundtrack or somewthing

[@MonadoBoyFlameRock]

Short Answer: Yes Long Answer: Yes

[@ponspectorstillwedie4579]

As much as I love XC2, I can fully understand it doesn't have a lot of mainstream appeal, plus it has it's share of shortcomings. I was never surprised it didn't get nominated for GotY, or even best RPG, even if I would personally say that it deserved it. That's fine. But I'm still salty it never even got nominated for best soundtrack even when Ni No Kuni II did. (I'm singling out Ni No Kuni just because it was the only one of that years nominees that I played, aside from Octopath which I feel fully deserved to be nominated as well.) All that said, XC3 does seem to have more mainstream appeal than previous Xeno games from what I've seen, so I'm quietly hopeful it will at least get nominated for SOMETHING. Hopefully. Either way, nothing will change the fact that it's my personal GOTY!

[@neondouble_]

It's also my GOTY! I love the franchise so much! XC3 was my highlight!

[@TronicSpeed]

This aged well!

[@donschaero7042]

XC1 should at least get the nomination for narrative & sound It's an entire different problem of game exposure, XC3 was lucky to be born in an era where gaming is very accessible XC2 is very polarizing, that's why it's kind of riskier

[@neondouble_]

Just came back from watching the game awards. The Game Awards 2022 proves officially that they hate Xenoblade. Nobody can prove me wrong no matter how hard they try

[@XenoBits]

I fail to see why TGA would hate Xenoblade still. The games it lost to are extremely popular and sold over 7x the amount of copies XC3 did, meaning they had a much wider reach.

[@dusk1951]

@@XenoBits literally that’s the unfortunate part. I know they wouldn’t win game of the year. But I at least expected one category and I thought it would be music and score because I’ve played all the games and listened to the soundtrack and Xenoblade clears it. But after losing to God of War (Which won a ton) and Elden ring to best rpg (Who I think of more as a souls game than an rpg). Sad to see what happened

[@TriforceZard]

Geoff can’t get mad at me on Twitter because I’m simply answering his questions with Xenoblade 3.

[@DaPootis]

I just REAAALLLYYYY want to see a Xenoblade 3 track be played at the TGA Medley, it’s literally so perfect for it

[@BigMan-gi7tf]

It better be man, I'm so sick of seeing these awesome soundtracks be snubbed from the most prestigious gaming event of the year when it clearly deserves to be there.

[@Averi0]

IT'S HAPPENING WE WON

[@DaPootis]

@@Averi0 I will cry if they bring a flute on stage

[@BigMan-gi7tf]

@@Averi0 WE FUCKING DID IT BOYS!

[@arceustriforce1622]

About Wasteland 3, the studio inExile is made up of a bunch of former Interplay/Black Isle devs, which is the studio that made the original Fallout games. It was even worked on by Brian Fargo, the creator of Fallout. It’s kind of an outer worlds situation where a lot of old crpg/fallout fans see wasteland 2/3 as true sequels to Fallout 1/2.

[@HybridAngelZero]

I caught this video a week later and IT'S NOMINATED FOR THREE CATEGORIES INCLUDING GOTY BAY-BEEEEE! This was a really good video, but I'm so glad it aged poorly in the best way possible

[@treesnip5667]

I think the most likely reason why Xenoblade doesn't tend to get nominated is that it is simply a niche series, and it didn't have enough enough eyes on it for it to be nominated. It sucks but that's an issue every awards show has. That being said I do think Xenoblade 3 is likely to be nominated for a few categories, but I don't think it'll win anything. It'd be going up against Elden Ring and God of War Ragnarok, you just aren't beating those two. Even if it doesn't win anything it'd be great if Xenoblade 3 was nominated for GotY because music from each nominee gets played in an orchestra and hearing Xenoblade music like that would be really cool.

[@babyjiren9676]

It’s way better than elden ring and gow though. Just sad that shit awards can’t let go of their bias

[@CrocvsGator]

For a second, I thought the Game Awards nominees were announced. But as for weird nominations, I don't any category is well defined. I mean, they had a Call Of Duty once go up against DMC5 for best action game....y know two completely different genres.

[@matsurithetrueaegis6024]

Best action is weird. If it was only character action games, it would basically be platinum only If it was any game with action, 90% of games are allowed.

[@CrocvsGator]

@@matsurithetrueaegis6024 I mean, Devil May Cry and God Of War aren't platinum. I'd also consider some of the Ys and Tales games to be action enough.

[@milktoast9140]

"Geoff and The Game Awards hate Xenoblade!" is among this community's most played out bits, and I'm pretty tired of seeing people argue about it every year, ngl. At best fans are passionate about the series and want it to get more publicity, and at worst we have another case of insecure JRPG fans who insist that the industry has a motivated bias against their beloved masterpiece. This is a niche series that doesn't have the widespread appeal or technical edge over the rest of the industry- it is not owed a place in the spotlight. Regardless of how XC3 gets nominated (and I do think it has a decent chance at music and rpg this year), I hope this "joke" dies down eventually, because some of this conspiracy theory stuff (like a few posts from this comment section) are just embarrassing to read lol.

[@XenoBits]

I hope you watched the video because I do not disagree with this viewpoint in it.

[@milktoast9140]

@XenoBits I did, All the way to the end! It was good, this was more of an aside on the subject that I felt compelled to write after reading some of the comments lol. Probably should've made that clear

[@Ozzy_08x]

Don’t forget! Geoff is BFF’s with Reggie Fils-Aimé, who went on record that he did not believe Xenoblade would do well in the West!

[@famillesabot5719]

Me playing every Xenoblade in Europa be like 😦

[@SBaby]

Reggie was the reason we almost didn't get the first Xenoblade game.

[@3abdooogamer734]

that title didn't age well

[@potatofarmergyro1720]

WE DID IT BOIZ XENOBLADE 3 GOT NOMINATED

[@monadoboy9639]

i can sort of unmderstand Xeno 2 because not everyone liked it and definitive edition is a remake so i guess i could understand it and it had competition like Doom eternal but Xeno 3 is a new game its critically praised and it basically has no competition so if it doesnt get nominated i will be disappointed and if it wins any category if it wins game of the year or Noah wins best character i will be super duper happy with that

[@emiliacuerden]

Geoff even mentioned Xenoblade Chronicles 3 in his interview on the Kit and Krysta Podcast, so, there's hope!

[@Arekiris]

I merely wish it got the recognition it deserved, it doesn't need to win.

[@JustJulyo]

Well simply put they just didn't have enough people play the series to get nominated Xenoblade probably gets snuffed because they rather get more eyes on people who already played/ know games that would get more exposure

[@judojon2216]

Xenoblade 3 got nominationted for GOTY! Tbh, if Xenoblade 3 didn't get any nominations this year, it would be very frustrating given how much positive coverage the game recieved. Obviously, it has no chance of winning GOTY, and will probably lose Best RPG to Elden Ring as well, it's nice the series is finally getting more mainstream recognition.

[@KeyToAeris2024]

I am pleased to say THIS AGED POORLY

[@Gukanzu]

Actually... the best role playing game that won in 2016 was Blood and Wine.. the expansion for The Witcher 3, It would be interesting to understand the logic to give the award to this expansion of maybe 20 hours of playtime, instead of a real open world with mechs, Sawano OST, good graphics and a playtime of more than 100 hours... Xenoblade Chronicles X deserved better

[@samm.8052]

Honestly, as much pride and joy it would give us all to win a category at the game awards, everytime it doesn't quite make it, is more proof that normies and mainstream doofuses aren't getting in over their heads. Xeno is great, and I believe it should be as big as possible. However, I don't think it's a very "mainstream" kind of series. Most people who play the games already barely understand them if they even do at all. Heck, even I needed to watch and dissect Miiks' videos to understand what actually happened in Xenoblade 3!

[@TGHowaith]

I've always thought it was more of a meme than anything else. ("I'm not gonna sugarcoat it!") That said, no nominations for the soundtracks, at least [Interactive Media Grammy, where you at?], is clear negligence; you'd think Mitsuda's name alone would get that much.

[@LordEgilYGO]

What makes me confident in saying it's an intentional choice is that, when Smash Ultimate was getting DLC, Geoff would tweet about every DLC fighter and have a bit of a quip to say. With one exception. For Pyra and Mythra, he had no text, just tweeted screenshots of their reveal splashes. No other DLC character got that treatment from Geoff.

[@XenoBits]

So, the statement about Geoff just tweeting Pyra's picture is just incorrect. He doesn't seem to ever post anything about Smash DLC. The Game Awards Twitter account does. And their tweet is not blank. They literally treat Pyra like they do any other character. Their Pyra tweet reads "PYRA from Xenoblade Chronicles will join Smash Ultimate in March as the next challenger!" While their Sora tweet reads "Sora joins Smash!"

[@LordEgilYGO]

@@XenoBits I remember seeing the tweets on the page, but it has been a while ago, may have misremembered where I saw it.

[@SBaby]

Maybe Geoff is racist against Japanese people.

[@robertomacetti7069]

i mean, it's not a mystery that the game awards only consider stuffs in the mainstream circle, otherwise xenoblade would have always been nominated at least for the music

[@solomeoparedes8162]

Is not a "Xenoblade hate" is an anti japanese hate, it bacame pretty obvious. Only the souls and the forefront Nintendo series get recognition. It makes sense too, its american show, they don't want all the spots to be hogged by foreign games. They get the acclaimed japanese games nominated and comoletly turn a blind eye to the rest.

[@Averi0]

Reading all these comments is SUPER funny now

[@Phantom-T]

Top 10 videos that aged like milk

[@MegamanGuy444]

I'm just content that Xeno3 was as good as it was. It got to my 13th spot on my top 100 favorites. That's an accomplishment in of itself. The Xeno-series will always hold a special place in my heart.

[@HalfpennyTerwilliger]

Torna being a DLC probably wasn't the issue since Xenoblade X lost to Witcher 3 Blood & Wine which was the second expansion for Witcher 3 Wildhunt. Which means full games and DLC aren't seperated and a DLC can win an award against whole games.

[@AlfalfaAlpha]

Member supremacy

[@XenoBits]

[@tamalemuncher789]

So freaking glad XC3 got nominations

[@stickfigure8416]

If 3 doesn't get a nomination we're about to shove Geoff into the endless now

[@theironduck7102]

Geoff lives for now

[@stickfigure8416]

@@theironduck7102 I still think it's a travesty it's not in Best Narrative, but yes

[@francoperalta5986]

Talk about a case of foot inside mouth. How about a follow up video talking about Xenoblade is finally getting the recognition game awards.

[@OskarXCI]

Reminder: Xenoblade X was nominated for best RPG at the 2016 Game Awards. Guess there was less competition that year.

[@famillesabot5719]

Really ? I gess it's because the open world.

[@Hephaestus_God]

I do think "Witcher 3: Blood and Wine" is one of the best DLC's i've ever played. So it winning is perfectly fine for me. XC1 definitive edition definitely should have won when it came out. It's an amazing game with near perfect story writing out of most games I have played. XC2 I can understand maybe. It is very different, and people do not like gatcha. The "anime" genre/style/tropes when XC2 came out was way less popular than current days.

[@vicentegatica34]

Yea we have the bias... But the commity of the VGA are super dumb, this year they nominated Sifu, as best fighting game...

[@marquis2736]

7:09 I would still like to see you make a video about the review data for Xenoblade

[@ThunderJimmy]

Seems to still be a new game in the series, it may show up next year everyone. Let's make it happen!

[@francoperalta5986]

it showed up this year

[@keeysOST]

I really wish Xenoblade 3 at least gets nominated. Very few games impact my life the way that game did, and in a sea of an industry that likes to sell you unfinished games with terrible monetization practices, Xenoblade just feels comforting as a series.

[@badlatency9979]

On Wasteland 3, the franchise isn't that well known any more, but among CRPGs it's pretty well regarded. Very much a western centered, PC gamer's rpg franchise though, and CRPGs are more niche than JRPGs even then. But if you rub elbows with the western rpg community much Wasteland got mentioned enough. It also went from independent to owned by MS so I can imagine some degree of platform partisanship and games politics being involved in the selection by games journos but might not be. Could just have been a strong PC gamer contingent amongst journos that year.

[@SacrificAbominat]

When the game awards made up awards just so Last of Us Part 2 could win more awards I stopped caring all together. If anything I'm in it for just the announcements, and even those are very lackluster as well. I'm just going to pass on it this year and see what they announced afterwards. I enjoyed my time with Xenoblade 3. I don't know if I'd call it the best game in the series but it was a fun time, and I'm looking forward to the DLC story next year. I'm hoping they do eventually port X to the Switch as that is my favorite game in the series.

[@theclark5631]

This aged like milk

[@SBaby]

Honestly, I don't speculate too much about the Game Awards. Much like the Oscars, the last thing they seem to be about is merit.

[@TheRealZura]

Well well well

[@Morte287]

Yes wasteland 3 is a great RPG, the reason why it was nominated is because it’s super accessible (for a CRPG) it’s voice acted (which is rare for CRPGS) and it’s the 3rd game in an over 25 year old and highly influential franchise.

[@Thinepickles]

Well this whole video aged like spoiled milk in a dessert

[@tryingtobebetter7235]

I've been a gamer since 1990 and I've somehow never even heard of these awards. These awards are personally irrelevant to me, but I guess they actually are a big deal or something. I though GOTY was just a thing people made up to mean you can get the game and DLC in one package all this time.

[@famillesabot5719]

It's not the important if Xenoblade 3 (or other Xenoblade/Xeno game) don't have reward. We know this game are goaty. As a fan of Xenoblade 2 it's don't matter that other think it's just Hentai. We need to be open however that this game aren't for anybody and aren't perfect.

[@JesusDaLawd]

Xenoblade chronicles 3 deserves it though it really is a great game

[@gilbertguerrero2916]

I don’t think so, but P5R getting nominated instead of XCDE was kind of sus. But that’s prolly because persona is more popular.

[@Thorcarmine]

Yeah Persona is way more popular then XBC, it's been running since the PS1 and has gotten a few anime adaptation along with being ported to several systems over the years.

[@jadeanimepiano6143]

This aged like rotten eggs on bread left in the rain overnight

[@magicmayro]

Great timing huh

[@gopiratexiii6256]

Remember when NEO TWEWY and No More Heroes III got snubbed last year at The Game Awards. Thats bogus.

[@kadewade351]

Well, well, well, it seems the tides have turned.

[@RJH755]

I come from the future baring good news :)

[@metroidprime3863]

TGA are too Pro-Sony and don't represent a wider gaming category.

[@GomerJ]

I was sure it would at least get a best RPG nom but wow it actually made the GoTY cut. Guess theory is debunked for good. Sadly Elden Ring’s flexible genre classification has it standing in the way of an otherwise winnable Best RPG group. Not holding my breath on those 2- but I’ll be so happy if Mitsuda wins best score. At the end of the day the fact it got nominated is a big deal and will bring even more new fans to the series, something 3 has already done. A great day for Xenoblade fans.

[@faidou9954]

Bruh

[@SparksOpus]

Yes. But I think… or rather hope, that things will be different this year ^^

[@LibertarianTerriermon]

Reverse the 90/10 Spilt

[@Yanquii]

Game awards hate games that aren’t action adventure games with the camera on the right shoulder. Glad It got nominated but those shady Game Awards jury’s won’t have any applause from me.

[@xXBlackDragoonXx]

Man, the people on here saying that this "aged poorly" when not much has been said yet. Like sure, it was nominated for three categories but let's be real people... this is The Game Awards. A nomination doesn't feel like much when it comes off as just some game that people knows well isn't going to win at all. Sure I would like it to win something at least, but I'm not going to get my hopes up for anything. This is the show that gave The Last of Us 2 a LOT of wins when so many games clearly did better.

[@Chelaxim]

It means plenty when you factor in how many JRPGs came out this year and if Live A Live proved that remasters are eligible and XC3 got nominated for best OST and not Chrono Cross. We all know Elden Ring is going to win...but it's like being nominated for a Grammy when you're up against Adele be grateful you were up for consideration in the first place.

[@tylertinney8294]

the people who run the game awards just celebrate whoever gives them the most money. It doesn’t matter how good a game is. Look how many unfinished Todd Howard games have gotten awards at this so called awards show. Most of his games are only at an acceptable level 6 months after release due to modders fixing them. Now some legit good games do get recognized, but most of it is a game of who can bribe harder.

[@jgn]

the game awards are rigged, how is neo: the world ends with you not win best soundtrack

[@renren47618]

It will never win Game Of The Year because whatever a game looks anime, North Americans instantly hate it (Even thought there is a niche for it, the great majority hates anime and call it a pedo/pervert thing) , and the series are very niche Also, imagine the hate Xenoblade would get if it won over Elden Ring or Gow Ragnarok this year? The "gamers" would go bananas

[@FlareBlitzBanana]

Now I’m convinced there’s a conspiracy orchestrated by YOU to get Xenoblade crowned GOTY. Jokes aside, was not expecting a nomination for any category, much less the big one. Probably not gonna win but I voted anyway despite it ultimately not mattering a whole lot.

[@PhantomOfTheKnight]

So yea, about that…

[@CaWalrusJr]

The Game Award only looks at game from a western (most white boys like FPS) perspective, any heavily Japanese stories driven games will never win

[@renren47618]

North Americans hate anime, because for some reason it got more and more popular things such "Anime is cringe! Pedo shit, pervert thing lol lmao Genshin Impact1!1!1!" , so it will never win regardless of how good an anime game is The only ones with a chance of winning are Final Fantasy because it's probably the only JRPG that Westerns like

[@Xenowolf8]

Well this aged poorly, I’m surprised the nominated XC3 over Bayonetta 3. I liked Bayonetta 3 more TBH, but I’m still happy XC3 got to the game awards.

[@amicidellambiente7852]

Hear that Geoff?

[@koopakoot9557]

Man, now I’m mad XCDE lost to Genshin.

[@togz813]

But then which games will be nominated instead of XC3

[@gurjindersingh3843]

Did you have to make this video 6 days before XC3 gets nominated for GOTY 2022 and a few other categories? Horrific timing!

[@Fusorf]

Geoff laughing at all his twitter replies mentionning Xenoblade, knowing full well hes gonna ignore it once again

[@nintenpro6439]

Well this aged

[@ZefoniusLinestraf]

Xenoblade 1 specialy deserved game of the year too bad it came out in a time where this awards warent a big deal i bet games like crono trigger Dragón quest 5 would have been game of the year in their time

[@AneirinRPG]

They hate anything that's not Sony unfortunately

[@Carito-000]

It would seem not anymore!!!

[@inrolam]

Lol only took one week to get proven wrong

[@Sturben-qn7ph]

So anyways …

[@canadianbro2052]

FUCKING GOW WON BEST SOUNDTRACK! WHAT THE FUCK TGA!

[@steelframer]

Xenoblade 2 had too many waifus for game awards

[@littlered6340]

10%!????????

[@golfer435]

The release dates were too late in the year and the discussions weren't pervasive enough for them to be brought up come TGA season. Nothing more

[@Oh-Ben]

Who cares when nobody watches for the awards anyway.

[@XenoBits]

I mean The Game Awards 2021 had roughly 80 million viewers. So I think it would be incorrect to say no one watches

[@Oh-Ben]

@@XenoBits and nobody remembers what got nominated or won. Also it did not hit 80 million viewers. Thats that stupid minutes watched BS they try pulling.

[@XenoBits]

@@Oh-Ben I agree that it doesn't matter in a general sense, like it doesn't make your game better than others, but being nominated to the Game Awards is still relevant.

[@Brandon-ld5eg]

No

[@dongodongo12]

I sure do hate the second game

[@Norel_Nieves]

They don't hate it, is just not good Enough.

[@TheMaestroMizerous]

This aged poorly lol

[@orangepotato2112]

HEHE HEH

[@TheGamingAnole55]

oof

[@Dionaea_floridensis]

Yes and I don't care because award shows are lame

[@ryanharris2113]

Cuz it’s bad - source: Dunkey

[@supersonicgamerguru]

XC1 gained recognition too late to be considered for any awards. XC2 embraced a niche that prevented it from getting the recognition it deserved. XC3 will be a first for the series, where the game gets exactly what it deserves: nothing at all.

[@Chelaxim]

Xenoblade chronicles 2 is extremely polarizing as well. Probably among the polarizing games in the history of the genre.

[@omegafire6253]

The last of us 2 has proven what a scummy award show is.

[@NintendoJimmy]

I think Xenoblade 3 is the worst in the series and I think and hope for the sake of the serie it do get bad reputation, because I want the serie not follow the animé style. Xenoblade 1 is in my opinion one of the greatest games ever made. But after that everything went downhill, and everything went to a more waifu animé style. And I think for a game to become recognized by a lot of ppl, stop with the animé and be more serious. I think Elden Ring is a very good example how you make a open world JRPG.