Does The Sims 2 Recognize Aliens?

[@valumtimes]

Marticore should just be crowned one of the grand keepers of Sims 2 deep lore and mechanics at this point. The mark of true wisdom is knowing you know nothing, after all.

[@vixenexe-nv3td]

my mind is blown again! I thought that nothing will beat the "all adopted babies are random townies' genetic children with mixed features and not just copies of existing face templates" but now we have " there's more than two baby face templates. there's actually an infinite number of them"... WHAT

[@EnigmaticLucas]

You might already know this, but the CAS background is actually a lot. Calipers and Tongs has conducted a lot (no pun intended) of experiments with the CAS lot.

[@vixenexe-nv3td]

@@EnigmaticLucas oh yeah, I love Calipers and Tongs! the experiments with the corrupted faces with mouths appearing on the sim's forehead... that was really something.

[@JamesLee-yr8cv]

SO, NO ALIENS? /throws a skateboard on the ground/

[@lilmochi1189]

I spot a kpop stan I follow 😃

[@aromanticfranziskavonkarma]

**stomps on skateboard**

[@joandsarah77]

Skip a generation so the game no longer recognizes the polination as family and your alien descendant *can* get alien pregnant. I did that years ago before I realized, and he got pregnant with his great grandfathers (or was it great-great? I can't remember) child... yeah. That was one messed up family tree.

[@Marticore]

Yep, I cleared that out in the pinned comment

[@alicesmith255]

I love this mess of a game, and the fact that it's 2021 and we're still finding things that most people don't know is amazing.

[@IchibanOjousama]

Mess? 🙄

[@Pixuou]

omg, how do you manage to constantly blow our minds with more stuff we didn't know about the sims 2? i learned like five new things in this video. thank you so much 🙌 i would have NEVER thought there are actually more than 2 baby face templates in the game

[@xzuzux9840]

That blended baby face blended my fricking mind😳😳

[@charlotte4284]

It’s really interesting that you can blend the human and alien baby templates! It makes sense, I suppose they function like any other template. Just a heads up: while it’s probably possible to replace baby face templates, Lifa’s defaults don’t do that. The ones in the pictures are toddlers.

[@Marticore]

Really?! I thought the ones on the left were babies, and the next on the right were toddlers...

[@charlotte4284]

@@Marticore Yeah, toddlers on the left, children on the right. I looked into the idea of modifying baby faces last night (to mild success), but it would be pretty hard to add customized ones to default face templates. All templates (excluding aliens) draw from one archetype (rather than each having their own identical copy), so there's only buArchBase and buArchAlien available to replace.

[@anachibi]

So there IS a binary! Fascinating.

[@TheDioda14]

This is so interesting! ❤️ I love that this Game can suprise after all those years, the attention to detail! Also there is this interesting feature from Nightlife that can also answer that question. Turn on and turn offs contain every single supernatural creature ever created in Sims 2 from zombies (from University) to bots (from Open for Buisness), probably added with each expansion pack or in update, but guess which creature is not available to choose without mods? That's right! Alien ones! Given the though that Nightlife was created as a second expansion pack it really tells about creators opinion. Lovely video, can't wait for more❤️

[@Marticore]

You can impregnate alien descendants by an alien with mods/cheats, but normally the pregnancy shouldn't happen 👽 BUT if the Pollination Technician is already a great-grandparent or further - this is not considered family ties anymore, so pregnancy WILL HAPPEN!

[@EnigmaticLucas]

I don’t have them so I don’t actually know, but since it’s just an incest prevention thing, I would imagine that multi-PT mods allow all aliens to become alien pregnant

[@Lulu-ut9pv]

You can do this, with testing cheats you can "have a baby with...." option so even 1sr cousins can impregnate each other lol

[@Marticore]

Well yeah, testingcheats counts too. I just use mods for this kind of stuff instead 😂

[@anachibi]

Yeah, likely all it is is the family restrictions at play. With a multi-PT mod, if you had a child of one PT happen to get abducted by that same PT, they wouldn't get pregnant either. In my megahood, I delete the PT from the family tree and change up the default every now and then, so technically none of my alien kids are related and could become alien impregnated one day.

[@anachibi]

@ferret I only disconnect PT from the family tree, not delete the sim itself. As far as I know, you can mess around with the family tree as much as you want without risk of corruption.

[@SzczesliwyZiemniak]

My brain said "goodbye, i need to re-think sims 2 babies, aliens and alien babies"

[@Lulu-ut9pv]

I've played with the alien DNA for years... PT 9 from ST has been the ultimate baby daddy I've noticed thst when he had a baby with a baby momma, have her baby taken away, and then adopted into another family, the baby becomes available to be adopted and therfore... ahem.... becomes another baby momma to keep the blue blood blue lol

[@hamtaro6471]

oh my 😳😂

[@lienhere]

Omg babies can have mixed faces?! I am seriously shooked right now!

[@c.syde65]

All face templates are linked to the 2nd face template for babies, with the exception of the 28th face template (the hidden alien face template) But if you use Body Shop sliders to blend the 28th face template with one of the other templates, all babies using the blended template will have a face that looks partway in between the 2nd and 28th face templates in appearance. I had no idea that facial blending in Create a Sim was possible though. I thought it was exclusive to Body Shop. And that right clicking the thumbnails only refreshed the pictures. I still prefer Body Shop when it comes to facial blending. Since Body Shop allows you to click the same slider 80 times. Whereas Create a Sim only allows you to click the same slider 10 times.

[@mika6985]

I specifically tested the multi-PT mod to see if alien descendants could have alien-abduction children. I thought it would be sad for the Curious kids to grow up unable to have the same experiences as their fathers. So I made an alien testing farm with some men forced to stargaze all night every night... Then I did the same with their alien sons ... And I was able to make 3 generations of alien-abduction children, all with different pollinator parents! I wasn't able to see if it ever fails because the sim's parent or grandparent is randomly selected -- as far as I could tell the game will always choose a pollinator that isn't in the family tree. I assume this would remain true forever with 4 PTs, since after great-grandparents (I think) ancestors are no longer regarded as family.

[@leslie2149]

This is very cool! I do have a PT mod with three different aliens (the reg. game PT, a Birth Mother, and a Romulan) and I have several different alien children in my neighborhood. Now I'm going to have to make a point to get one of them abducted and see if they get pollinated by a different PT.

[@k.bart.parkinglot]

I like how the game won't let someone with a Pollination Technician in their family line get pregnant when the Curious/Smith family exists canonically. 😂 Had to draw the line somewhere, I guess.

[@rosemarywarner6759]

PT can impregnate his great-grandson but not his grandson!

[@Maya1_404]

2:16 this actually scared me. Like genuinely.

[@joeyveegs7124]

Your outro bit is genuinely the best on KZbin, makes me laugh every time! Also great video, so interesting! I wish that blended alien/human hybrid showed up after an alien pregnancy in normal gameplay. It looks so cool!

[@BillBui_]

Marticore is the best at explaining the finer aspects of The Sims 2. I always hope that another Sims 2 video is uploaded from her, just can’t get enough 😂

[@peachforce]

I can't believe I never thought about this! You're right-- alien babies look different from human babies, and the reason ends up being pretty simple... I was still surprised at the fact that all human babies had the same face!

[@citizeninsane8518]

Someone made a mod fixing the turn ons and turn offs and because the one for custom hair apparently cannot work, they replaced it with and alien one. I wonder if it works with this template or with the skin tone or what. Awesome video, these features are so cool.

[@Marticore]

Probably with the green skin tone :D

[@IchibanOjousama]

There is no alien hair

[@citizeninsane8518]

@@IchibanOjousama I mean with an alien turn on.

[@CherylMcMinorrr]

I love finding out stuff like this about the game genetics! :D I’ll test out that multiple PT mod thing in the future when I get a break from work because I’ve wondered about that :)

[@nutella3510]

I picture you goind through the game code trying to find something new and interesting and I love it.

[@irmin2801]

This brings back soo many memories from me playing The Sims on the Wii. I like the facts about the templates and aliens that's really interesting.

[@brennankennethbrown]

You're seriously like the Pannenkoek2012 of the Sims 2. I love these vids!

[@leon_atrewo]

WHAAA- Mind blown!! Every time it seems like the community has it all figured out, something like this comes out xd Thank you for the video, as always! The mixing templates thing makes me wonder - how does it work with the broken face templates? If you mix a broken template and the second one, for example, in 50/50 proportion - will the face still be "broken"? Or what if you set a broken template, and right-click on a diffirent one for a couple of times?

[@leon_atrewo]

I love this freaking game more and more with every new thing I learn about it I swear 💜

[@Marticore]

The broken features will stay broken :D

[@DudleyKetsukane]

5:48 i have actaully had a alien who got impregnated from and abduction so it might be bugged on some versions.

[@AniBats]

Amazing! You consistently blow my mind with your videos. This is so cool! Thank you for doing all this research and putting this together. ⭐

[@MaskedFox-ln4vc]

another video yass ♥ tbh it would be cool if other sims would recgonize aliens as... well aliens, but oh well

[@becciKeks]

Such an awesome thing! I never even thought about that :D

[@ogattens]

Ah wow I find this so cool! If I had the energy I would change all of my sims faces using that template in simpe so that their babies look different, it makes each baby feel a little more special

[@PixelSubstream]

4:30 But what about the fact that "genuine" alien sims (not Cas made sims) will always make human sims look at them and have a thought bubble about them frequently?I remember this behavior with strange town aliens

[@owlproblem7230]

You blew my mind all the way out, thanks

[@g.l.8509]

So cool! And there is one thing that is corelated to things youve been talking about. Game doesn't allow to impregnate Alien's children buuut if you make this sim pregnant using mods or sth, he'll give birth to his brother/sister. In the familytree you could see that newborn has only one parent ("oryginal" Alien). Sim who was pregnant has memory about giving birth but this child is only his brother/sister in the familytree. But i haven't checked the genetics so I don't know if this child is a clone of Alien or has some genetics from a 'father'-brother

[@alicefielding9308]

I have absolutely had part-aliens grow up and have alien babies of their own. No mods.

[@Marticore]

It can work if the PT is a great-grandparent, as this is not considered related anymore

[@nosferatadentata965]

If there is a template for alien baby face then there must be files somewhere that contain templates for failures in 'dr Vu' s automated cosmetic surgeon'

[@byanca96]

My sim was an alien decedant, his grandfather was a pure alien, and he was still abducted and got impregnated by his grandad 😂😂😂 And no I don't use mods 😃

[@citizeninsane8518]

Was their grandfather related to PT? I don't think Sims recognize great grandparents as family.

[@byanca96]

@@citizeninsane8518 One of his grandfather was a normal sim, the other was a PT. His father was an alien hybrid.

[@Marticore]

Oh yeah, great-grandparents don't count!

[@byanca96]

@@Marticore So if the baby's great-grandfather and father is the same, that's good? 😃

[@byanca96]

@@Marticore Because my sim still got impregnated by his grandad 😂😂😂 And that's kind of messed up 😂

[@davidgregoryshair1456]

I always hoped that the babies all looked alike, in game, because someone other than me noticed that ALL BABIES LOOK ALIKE, IRL! Now, it seems, it's just me...

[@Marticore]

They do xD

[@mrcnlbyrk]

such a complicated game but we still love it lol :P

[@cuteuser6719]

Awesome content, very interesting 😃❤

[@still_your_zelda]

These are such brilliant gameplay features. I didn't know any of this.

[@aquamarina5216]

Wow, I didn't know that, I just knew that aliens are pretty much normal sims, which is so disappointing. I know that when aliens kidnap Nina (this is something I always do in my game, as I find it to be a delicious display of karma) she does come back pregnant, but of course to do that I have a mod instaled plus I think I have 4 PT who came with default replacement, so aliens in my game wouldn't look as ugly as they usually do.

[@KaczkaAmanda]

Ok but what about the fact that alien toddlers learn stuff much quicker? How does game recognize that?

[@Marticore]

...do they?

[@KaczkaAmanda]

@@Marticore I think so? Or I have some Mandela effect. I remember some old tip saying alien with that magic milk will learn stuff so much faster than normal sim and I started thinking about this while playing today. I have alien kid and I was like huh yeah he learns kinda faster

[@Marticore]

Smart milk makes all kids learn faster. Plus, it's broken in the game code, so even when the glow disappears, the fast learning stays pretty much forever.

[@xEnjoyTheMoment]

I always click SO FAST when I see you in my subs section 🙌🏻

[@mariamalmaazmi4579]

I’m playing sims 2 since 2004 never knew about the right click feature until today 😭😭😭

[@SotraEngine4]

Could you take a look at physiology? I found that it accelerates the pace of earning skill points depending on how many body skills the sim has So with matched out body skill, they learn all skills really quickly

[@Marticore]

I already made a video about life skills and have never heard of this effect. Physiology is just broken and makes the Sim max out body in 3 seconds.

[@SotraEngine4]

@@Marticore It could be that it was due to the order of which I installed the packs. Due to my age, it didn't make sense for me to begin playing Sims 2 before Pets came out. I got the later EP after Pets. I installed Sims 2 with these packs on my Windows 10 (I didn't install Mansions and Gardens because the DVD was so scraped I didn't trust it would keep on working indefinately). Later I aquired University, Nightlife, Open for Business and two stuff packs (the glamour one and the H&M one) I haven't downloaded any patches So it could be a bug due to strange installation order I have done some testing to confirm that this is what happens on my computer I made a household and I made Sims having these roles P is for physchiology B is for body skill K is for knowledge aspiration benefits Sims: BK PK PB P B BKP Those who had both B and P had the effect I described They learned skills almost instantly All others learned skills quite a bit slower, although it was some boost to the K-sims I so no effect for the B alone sim Let me see if I have uploaded any videos for evidence of my claim (as I do see how it can be quite unbelievable)

[@SotraEngine4]

@@Marticore kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4fXpIyhqbqGgrs I was a bit stupid in this run (this is my second channel) I didn't disable free will (I think) and I did body third last. But although this isn't clean in that it shows ONLY this effect (really many others too) it isn't great evidence. But the two last skills goes almost instantly compared to the 4 pre-body Funnily, it is so quick you gotta watch when the skill bar dissapears as the messages lags and generates well beyond when the sim stops learning (again, this is further accelerated by other stuff as well). But there should be a difference

[@Marticore]

You're using the Education career reward bookcase, that's why the Sim is learning faster

[@SotraEngine4]

@@Marticore That is among the many effects that helps speed it up other than what I refer to I also have done an experiment (I don't think I recorded it) where I had different sims have different "roles" to experiment I tried different combinations of them reading physciology, having knowledge aspiration rewards and having high body skill Those with physciology (learning it first) and then having body skill had the strange all skill boost This experiment was done without the bookcase Note, I do not have Mansions and Gardens installed

[@aseyafloyd2924]

I mean yeah they don’t even have special powers or special interactions they are just like Normal sims that just look really really different it’s all cosmetics

[@MeowingCookie_]

I wonder if we could customise and replace the baby face templates 😮

[@MeowingCookie_]

Yes you can and you can add infant age to every face template 😂

[@Arten_380]

You first time use this scene in 2018 and in every video about genetics it appears xD

[@Marticore]

Yeah, now it bugs me that it's not in 60fps xD

[@AnaSilva-u5p]

Sims 2 is a kinder egg surprise 😂. I love this game XD

[@АндрейСмирнов-л4г]

I guess most of us thought that we had known everything interesting about the game probably except very little details that are not that exciting. But then we saw this video...

[@SailorMiMi770]

1:00 I totally thought the sim was naked for a second

[@TheEmuofEnnui]

I'd love to watch this but I need the subtitles, can you make them available please?

[@MiotaLee]

The genetics in the sims 2 is marvelous

[@BoBPlayGamesTV]

1:33 these are toddler faces tho

[@abchn9]

@2:20 high priest robi is that you?

[@m00nf4iry]

This made me want to have an alien baby in sims 2 now lol

[@witchofwillow1206]

I’ve always seen Aliens as another race in the game to play around with genetics. I usually have multiple men in the same town get abducted and prego at the same time like it’s an infestation of Aliens.

[@kristy-the-hedgehog]

Hi! I was wondering how you get all those extra features in Create-A-Sim (like at 2:19, making the eyelashes longer/shorter, etc etc) I know you could do that stuff in Body Shop, but never in Create-A-Sim. I'd love to know :')

[@Marticore]

Custom sliders can be found on ModTheSims :D

[@kristy-the-hedgehog]

@@Marticore THANK YOU!!! You’re the best!!!! 🥰🥰🥰

[@Lucy-Lullaby]

0:45 good question

[@jljljl1820]

i'll have nightmares after this

[@birdgirl8390]

"you can blend faces" EXCUSE ME WHAT?

[@Marticore]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZ_FgIBrj7dgecU

[@synyore]

You reminded me about a behavior present in Johnny Smith in Strangetown, for some reason everyone near him has unstoppable urge to look and create a thought bubble about them. i thought it was about the game recognizing him as an Alien but it turns out it seems to be something particular to Johnny himself. Here is a video as proof kzbin.info/www/bejne/qorNoquLf7aWpsk Any idea what would be causing this behavior?

[@igsamiru]

OH that explaplains why wasn't working for me thying to get my alien sim abduct and pregnant. I wanted to see what would turn out of this though

[@fro568]

Ahh, Sims 2 devs and their complicated way of making this game...

[@AnimeLuver3231]

That's so dang cool!

[@Esth.1]

Solid voice on that "byeEeEeEeEe" actually

[@gr1lled_cheese]

thanks for the video! but what’s exactly wrong with a multi pollination technicians mod?

[@Marticore]

There's nothing wrong with it. But it adds new universal NPCs, so if you remove it, your game will be corrupted.

[@SmartNoobSimply]

hi Merta

[@brightea]

well damn :'') i had twin alien male babies and decided that one of them would be a gay dad in the future from another alien without cheats so there goes my plan to have him abducted and pregnant

[@ZgredekKredek11]

Szkoda że nie ma napisów bo nic nie rozumiem merta :(:(:(:(:( znaczy coś tam rozumiem ;)

[@Marticore]

Spokojnie, już robię podobną rzecz na polski kanał

[@asmrtpop2676]

As usual, racism along with already being inherently and morally horrific, is proven to also have no scientific true basis. Even in the Sims. Lmao. Way to go Buzz.

[@Vincent654]

This was the most hard to watch video with sooo many fugly sims xD

[@universemadeofcreativity5820]

I have to admit it when it comes to unique lore or fact the game the mechanics of it mostly the mechanics of the game itself in the lore not saying that you did not do your homework I just see your work on the mechanics of the game as more unique don't get me wrong I definitely see details that you were very careful on the others who are very careful either made lately of this information or they simply didn't have time or they didn't see it the same way that you found the details in it the way comes to the game mechanics especially in that almost a lot of my more unique game- based I mean like base game play I actually use some of your techniques and there's some of the only ones that will work in my game especially like doing the template one where you click the mouse on the left button and it will shift the facial structures I usually prefer doing just natural mixing of the parents genetics through the pacifier but I do prefer doing it a more organic transition of the faces by doing that and you can also do that shifting and same amount of that with different parts of the face by left clicking on the mouse as well for more subtle things it's one of the things when I randomize personal Sims and cas before playing family I would do a little shift changes to the face of sometimes to the SIM so they would have a more unique face but it's neither one template or just a mixture of two Sims it would be a bit more like there would be eight different some pieces you can say of different traits from other Sims in the face templates and other parts of the face that you can add in that way but more subtle ways it's also easier and faster for me to get more unique looking Sims that way without having to constantly work with the sliders I definitely work within a sliders when it comes to using that but for more specific looks to the face or generalizations when the face or them customization is not quite as smooth looking or is unique I will admit I'm still trying to work out kinks without damaging my game like I like using the idea of the mannequin skin through cheats but I'm worried that I either would cause a dominant gene that could cause issues or I would have to find a mod that would not glitch at the game If anyone knows any mods to help with that please let me know

[@Kim-dw2qj]

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