Does this BUDGET camping stove BEAT the MSR WINDBURNER ?

[@PaulMessner]

Which of these 2 stoves do you prefer? Or do you have another stove that betters them both 🔥

[@Karma-qt4ji]

MSR pocket rocket and a Toaks 650ml. Combo is more expensive than the OEX but packs down a LOT smaller and is quite a bit lighter.

[@simoncee9011]

Does the MSR burner fit the OEX cup? Best of both worlds?

[@JordanBuddha]

I have the jetboil 2.0 and I feel like it’s perfect for me

[@bornagainintrepid]

Alpkit Brukit is very good and comes with a pan stand. Cost not much more than the OEX in the sale.

[@channel_alan]

I've got the Firemaple equivalent. I don't think it's as windproof but it's still a good pot for me. I like the handle on the pot.

[@Pargie81]

I had both until recently, I liked my oex but found it annoying to twist the cup on and off of the burner, mine always seemed to get stuck. I absolutely love my wind burner. However if I am camping and take proper food I still use my good old trangia, I don't think that will ever be bettered for me. If I am feeling lazy and take the dehydrated meals I just take the wind burner. I love the quiet and that's why the trangia wins every time

[@richardwright9563]

I have the msr windbunner and it's a great stove, also the msr gas can has marks on the side so when you float them in water it tells you how much gas you have left

[@davidrawlings3460]

Thanks again for the oex stove comparison,I was probably one of your viewers who asked where it had gone. You can make a jet boil pan support fit the oex stove so you can use a frying pan etc. Just a little mod to move the ignitor spark away and away you go. Cheers Paul.

[@Zimmerframe-Tramper]

I have the MSR Windburner and it is my favourite stove. One aspect you didn’t compare is how much gas it uses. I have found it to be the most economical of all my gas stoves. The only drawback is that bloody plastic cup which has twice jammed on the bottom and which took me ages to get off. The radiator burner is great for toast 😂

[@georgecronin3592]

Paul, thank God for the Trangia system . Wide base, low height, alcohol or gas, safe as houses.

[@MrEvilWasp]

For me it would be the OEX. Not just because it's less expensive but because it's not as tall so more stable. I still prefer my Soto Windmaster 4Flex.

[@shanegreen2583]

I’ve an oex one and for going for a walk and boiling water for tea, soup etc it’s just the job. The MSL didn’t seem to have a lighter and I can’t think of spending £140 on basically a kettle.

[@HoratioChinn]

With my MSR Windburner I use a cheap alcohol stove cross pot support that perfectly sits above the burner to give sufficient clearance for use of a normal frying pan or larger pot

[@JaseEtheridge]

I got the OEX Heiro to replace my old Jetboil Zip. I found that I could easily adjust the valve to get a good simmer going... something that was almost impossible on the Jetboil zip. My main reason for not wanting to spend a fortune on a stove again was that the pots don't seem to last (as in the non stick) after about a year... even if looking after them. Don't know if anyone else has found this also? Anyhoo great video as always matey!

[@simonward4520]

Good to see gear reviews back!

[@davidluke1795]

Both excellent stoves. But my go to is my Alpkit Brewkit, comes with a pot support too for your frying pan. My other favourite is my Primus Omnifuel, that will burn any gas or liquid fuel.

[@msmitha4211]

I like it when you do these now and again.

[@paulwhitaker2816]

Great vid as usual Paul but for me ( a sheffielder) £140 -----£ 170/ £180 to boil water which can in colder weather fail , Im sticking with my Trangia .£14 and guaranteed ...(generally) to work ....

[@thenutlow]

Where can i get for £14 please sir

[@markrutledge-docmark41]

I've never been one to go with "knock-off" stoves, and especially those made in China. Hands down, the MSR would be my choice, as it's a tried and true design, and made to last a long time, with no problems, at all! I know that there are plenty of folks that prefer the cheapest stuff they can get, but I've learned to support the companies that have done their homework, and designed the best stoves, and I most certainly do not mind paying a premium for something that will be trouble-free, and last me far longer than most of the "Knock-off" stuff. That's my 'tuppence, and others can do as they wish, or course. Thanks for the video, and God Bless! - Doc

[@wad6216]

MSR is made in China LOL.That argument is a lame duck man. Just admit you are a tackle and brand tart

[@neologian1783]

100% Reward the originators. They did the R&D and they actually have someplace you can call for warranty issues.

[@user-vx5pq1mv8r]

OEX isn't knock off, it's tried and tested by it's manufacturer Go Outdoors/Blacks.

[@markrutledge-docmark41]

@@user-vx5pq1mv8r, Since there is no easily found information about these OEX stoves, I assume these are made in China. If you like this stove, great. Until your reply, to be honest, I'd never heard of this brand, nor the stove itself. I own over 600 different stoves, from all over the World, one of which dates back to 1866. But, OEX is new to me. AGain, glad you like it. But. I'll stick with MSR, as they seldom have any problems, and if they do, MSR takes care of it, straight away. Cheers!

[@brentmiller73]

Great video and content. I already choose the MSR Windburner. It is in my daypack for when i go above timberline (~10,000' or greater). I too chose it because of the radiant heat system and it hasa safty shutdown system in case it overheats from too much use. That said i have never used the Oex. From what i seen in this video it is built a lot like the Jetboil. In which case i passed up my JetBoil because it seemed like it was proprietarly built around a MSR pock rock deluxe (which i also have). As a side note, both units boast about having a 10000 btu capacity. Thus making the MSR PocketRocket deluxe is lighter and more versatile system. Moving on, I appreciate all the work you have put into this. I hope my feedback helped.

[@McNaughts-Adventures]

Great video Paul, I have had the alpkit BruKit for some years now, it comes with a pan stand so can use it for frying and the gas can stand too. I paid under £40 ( was in offer and some years ago) and it’s great.

[@Gusto20000]

Paper towels help with rattling and always handy. I always pack some paper towels inside my stove setup to avoid rattling, never regret

[@samwhite7197]

Lovely review, very useful for folks like me. Don't let the tiny minority of pedants and keyboard warriors sway you from putting what you want on your channel. They are an unfortunate reality with KZbin. Ignoring their shenanigans is far easier said than done, i'm sure but you know what you're doing ... and we love it. Keep on keeping on!

[@grsfhhytff]

Money to performance the OEX wins. As I said on Facebook though: I'll still be using my standard stove. I like to fry stuff 😂. Great review, Paul. Cheers.

[@hezzy2813]

I bought the OEX Paul from your last video with it, going against the zip. I can’t believe how good it is for the price. Especially in the wind. Pound for pound it’s a beast! I’m about to adapt the pot support from the jetboil. Thanks again. 😎🤙🏼

[@happycamper7004]

I’ve got the Alpkit Brukit which is very similar and you also get the pan support with it. Excellent bit of kit

[@paulellam6926]

was thinking about this one, as it has the pan support, looks a fab bit of kit

[@happycamper7004]

@@paulellam6926 it really is a great bit of kit. I’ve had it for 3 years now and it has never let me down. And it’s at a fraction of the price of a jetboil/MSR

[@davehumpleby3440]

I know you said you were stopping doing reviews, but I for one am glad you've changed your mind. My money's on the OEX. There's not enough superiority in the MSR to justify the price difference. Thanks for making the video. I look forward to more reviews. 😊

[@paulrobertson8068]

Ha. No more gear reviews he says! I jest, nice to see you back- your reviews are ace

[@mrnobodieswildcampingadventure]

Just purchased the Firemaple mars radiant stove for £104 with delivery from China, got it delivered and tested it out. Great stove, must admit I don't like either these stoves (in the video), too top heavy for my liking!

[@SteveMrW]

Paul, I have just started watching your channel an it’s very refreshing. I have an OEX and I like the idea that the MSR stand fits into the cup of the OEX with the gas canister, and burner. So I bought a MSR stand which fits perfectly.

[@AlJetdriver]

Bought the OEX last Summer. On the first trip the piezo ignition stopped working, when hot the pot wouldn’t detach easily, and part of the burner actually melted. Returned It and got an MSR pocket rocket 2.

[@wayneriley7557]

Hi Paul, thanks for the comparison. I'm always in a quandary when looking for new kit as to whether to spend a bit more or go for mid-range, so these comparisons really help. Something that I'd really like to see on your channel is some multi-day hikes / camping. I try to bike tour (ie panniers) when I can but hike camp videos are very useful still as you still can't take the kitchen sink with you, but I still think there are differences between over-night and multi-day trips.

[@andylittlebritain7680]

Had cheap stoves with piezo lighter that have packed in so ended up having to take a lighter. Bought the MSR 3 years ago and never looked back. No issues lighting it even with a ferro rod. Love the MSR and it's never failed us but I do see the point of the video.

[@Rdeboer]

I think the 'steam hole' is to accommodate the optional coffee press accessory, at least in the case of the Windburner. I'm unaware if OEX sell a coffee press for their stove, but if they don't then they probably included the hole in the lid to ensure that they have the option to do so without revising the product.

[@erikehrling4715]

Msr windburner is my choice for windy conditions. Also have a Soto Windmaster + Toaks 750ml but that struggles much more (and consumes quite a lot of more gas) in windy conditions, even with a windscreen.

[@rorydoody2589]

Thanks!

[@possessionfriend946]

The Pizzo on OEX, never mind the price, and I prefer the fold out handles - is a clear winner !

[@feel.the.need.]

I've got to say my favourite is my Windburner, because it "was" yours 😂 I was out the other night, in storm Jocelyn and the Windburner was stable enough and lit first time, every time.

[@ChrisPaul1892]

I rushed out upon release to buy the heiro and haven't regretted it once. Make a coffee and a pot noodle/instant oats in one boil which suits me 👍

[@davidalderson7761]

I like my OEM. Used it a lot now too. If it’s broke at any time I can replace it for a few quid. Only use it to Boil water for a coffee or a freeze dried meal or fill a flask The pot isn’t big enough for a mega meal.

[@COYSMike]

Got the similar Alpkit Brukit in a recent sale. Not tried it yet but pleased to see it comes with a pot stand and cannister stand too.

[@thewestonfront]

Having had a MSR petrol stove fail up me several times, and MSR tents leak and fail for friends, MSR would never make it to my list I'm afraid. Given a choice I'd go with a 'canister stove' which are more stable, lighter, work to lower temperatures and have less to go wrong in the field. I am very pleased with my Alpkit Koro and a Ti mug. Smaller, lighter, simpler, more versatile, more stable and on par with the cost of the OEX stove you had.

[@grol094]

great logical comparison Paul, thanks

[@BloxOutdoors]

I have the OEX, it’s great little stove. Never had any problems with it 👍

[@prembulex6833]

I'm using firemaple for 3y now . I'm very happy with quality , cooking times etc

[@cooper8t]

I have the OEX stove. The comparison is perfect imo. I will add the Jetboil support for the gas canister just about fits in the container with everything else (in the OEX). Make sure you look at voucher codes for online shops, might get a cheeky 10% off, can get the OEX for £38. Personally I don't understand why people pay £100+ for what is a glorified kettle :')

[@wileywilson]

Maybe it's 0.5 gramme lighter? ;)

[@Fantic156]

Had both and gave the MSR away, just couldn't get on with the handle!! I know it's a strange thing and probably only me, but it feels like a right faff to get a good, safe grip of 1/2 litre boiling water. No faults at all with the OEX and the price is excellent.

[@THE-RIVER-RAT]

I picked up the OEX stove after watching your review when it first came out, used it loads, and still love it.

[@johnlladron735]

Great vid, Paul, thanks for the info and great presentation as ever. Gear reviews always welcome.

[@INSOLESandLACES]

Had a MSR Reactor and like the wind burner it was a pain to light in wind, also there's a thermal fuse and if it fails then it's a return to MSR. OEX seems simpler, cheaper and boil time comparable.

[@tubulzr]

Given the price the OEX seems the winner. I like the idea of an enclosed fire, especially for in your tent vestibule. I use a gas can tripod, a small MSR Pocket rocket 2 and an aluminum 550ml pot. Some alu foil as a windbreaker/flame enclosure for in the vestibule (although that stove burns very consistent, very reliable. And loud, honoring it's name).

[@JIMcLauchlan]

Definitely the oex has my vote for value for money. great review 😊

[@Terrylyon1979]

Great video and very similar comparisons. i got a bargain last summer and got the tacana stove set, which is the same but 1 litre with pot stability thingy and you get a pan stove all for £ 35 and i love it .it now costs about £ 75 to£ 90

[@turtle-Alchemist]

I have an MSR windburner, awesome bit of kit. Put the pot on top and tilt it when lighting, it makes a good windbreak.

[@peterc5167]

Good review. Think the choice is clear. Lighter, cheaper, works just as well. But still heavy compared to Soto wind master (87 grams) used with a heat exchanger pot, plus maybe a windshield built from some rocks. Great channel, honest and practical.

[@songasport]

I've got the larger OEX one, very happy with it. I've recently bought a Trangia set to have a go with too.

[@andrewlee8374]

Just thought of a little mod you could do with the handles on the oex. If you take the off you could put some heat shrink on so they are covered. In fact I'm going to do that with my the one on my lixada pot. 😊

[@BradleyHoward]

You seem to enjoy the product reviews/ comparisons - why did you say you'd stop filming them? We want to see more wild camping trips!

[@paulhayes9765]

I would take the OEX . Lower profile and I could buy a lot of extra outdoor kitchen with the extra 100 pound savings. Great review 👍

[@paralogregt]

Two big issues i see with that type of stove, pot is too small to melt large amounts of snow in the winter also Gas canisters don't work that well when it gets very cold. I will stick with my 40 year old XGK for now. Roars like hell and flames 2 ft high when starting but works.

[@markbirkett3505]

Love your gear talks! Keep them up👍🏼

[@disco90sherpa]

3mm ID silicone hose off ebay is a perfect fit over those wire handles.

[@Clarky539]

I just use a msr micro pocket rocket, I'd prefere the MSR product to be honest. However now I don't really cook on walks I'd rather a thermos and enjoy the quiet.

[@scootbenet]

What would be really interesting is a comparison of gas use between the big name stoves to boil 100ml. Both at full pelt and at low flow. Fresh canisters for fairness and weigh them before and after.

[@mountainmantararua8824]

The MSR burner, I find, burns through the gas much faster. I would rather use the OEX. Cheers from the mountains of NZ ☺☺

[@greenbimoon]

I use the Soto Windmaster, Toaks 1100ml because I can carry the 382g Gas Canister which I drop into the toaks on a 300mm² Microcloth. No rattles.

[@carrtez]

Alpkit Brukit as a good in-between with a pot stand

[@chrispape2739]

Brilliant video as always Paul! Couldn’t believe it when I saw this upload as i’ve just bought the OEX Heiro in Go Outdoors today (sort of on a whim as well). So glad it gets your stamp of approval and looking forward to taking it for a spin in the peaks tomorrow! Keep up the good work Sir.

[@tomhamer7838]

Jetboil potstand fits the Heiro but you have to scollop out a bitbot the need rgecwith a file or a small router to clear he peizo post,Ames about 10-15 mins and Kris well

[@TheSoloSummiteer]

Little OEX is a cracking stove. Replaced my Jetboil Zip with one 👍. ATB Paul 🙏🏻

[@harry_rambles]

I’d definitely go for the OEX, the difference in price for essentially the same product as the MSR is unbelievable! Especially with the lower centre of gravity. A no brainer I think really 👀

[@greenpanda7121]

Windburner any day, every day. Jetboil, OEX, Primus Lite etc, don't really even come close in build quality or reliability. MSR's reactor though is also a phenomenal bit of kit and real windburner rival, situation depending.

[@ericcook8422]

I like the concept. I don't know. I'd use one if I got it at the thrift store, but I prefer a gas stove that's a bit more versatile. But I appreciate you showing them to me.

[@wildhypnotist]

After watching this I picked up the oex and it's got to be one of my favourite stoves now. It boils 300ml of water in 1m 30s. Incredible! Such good value. Why would you pay more?

[@davearnold5212]

Great comparison, top man, more of these please.

[@Dominyk1000]

That micro regulator the Windburner helps a lot in certain environments and situations.

[@GrahamFootBicycleLover]

Poor Jetboil. OEX seem to be copying everything. Love to know how their sleeping bags compare Paul, but i digress. To answer the question, OEX seems to be the one. I have a Minimo and a Stash from Jetboil. Stash I think is not that good in comparison at all, takes ages in the wind. Minimo is brilliant but won't take a canister and is too big. You need to do a Jetboil, OEX comparison, although I think we know the answer. Great to see a REVIEW! haha.

[@trooperwolfie]

I borrowed a friend's wind boiler when it first came out for my Pennine way trip (yes...I said wind BOILER...that's what it was originally called before jetboils legal team "politely requested" that msr refrain from using the term "boiler") it performed really well, especially in windy conditions, but isn't quite as efficient as my jetboils. I always use msr gas when I can, that extra 10 grammes of gas over jetboils is upto 4 extra brews in favourable conditions 😉

[@trevorloveridge4387]

Well that’s handy you doing this comparison as I am in the market for a new one as after many yrs of good service I’m going to have to retire the old jet boil So looks like for me it would be the OEX for use with the motorbike and at a crackin price too

[@chelladugg]

I have the Highlander Fastboil version of these stoves which has a 1.1 litre capacity and it comes with a potstand so you can use a frying pan. I paid €80 for it 2 years ago. It takes up a bit of space but it's fast and so far, reliable.

[@NoviceWildCamper]

Have you tried the Firemaple Mars radiant stove against the wind burner? Would be a more comparable test i reckon as its the same radiant type of burner. Im not a lover of the height of the msr. Looks too unstable and would be nearer to the fly if using in the vestibule. You can also use any frying pan on the fire maple 👌

[@arcticradio]

None…….I’ve not gone down this route to be honest. I’ve stuck with my Toaks 750ml that fits my Coleman F1 (4800W) stove plus other bits inside. In winter I use the Goshawk Era burner. I’m old fashioned 🙈 Just think these jet boil things are an overkill.

[@dtourstravels4378]

Watchin at 2am from the Philippines .Keep up the good work Paul.

[@pootlingalong8928]

Interesting video, thank you Paul, I love seeing your thoughts on bits of kit. Very remiss of Jo to allow you to steal back the OEX though! 🤣

[@delwilliams9042]

Great comparison video Paul

[@mphunty]

Used my oex on a 2 week hike, didnt miss a beat so gets my vote. Never had issue in the strong winds and rain and also no issue when it got down to -1 and the gas being cold and low. MSR is silly money and not worth the extra in my opinion. I do find the lock on the OEX is too tight but never had a problem resting the pot just into the grooves. Yes to the silcone handles and yes to having a cup on the bottom and it would be perfect.

[@wad6216]

My mate got the MSR and when we go fishing on the beaches or rocks the wind is always constant and never stops on the coast and the MSR sucks for being able to light I swear it was faulty from day one and he nearly took it back but seeing others with them in the outdoors they are al the same! literally trying to light it with a match or normal lighter is impossible sometimes and we had to abandon a brew on the beach! I have the Jetboil Minimo and it lights so easy in the wind with the built in ignitor, never fails maybe two clicks at worse. even with a lighter or match you can light it way easier in the wind than the MSR. Having to buy an expensive and bulky lighter in order to light MSR Windburner is a PITA and it isn't even good for cooking on you need really expensive pots specific to the model to facilitate this and they are not that great either, Jetboils skillet frying pan beats the MSR pan too by a good margin. The Jetboil Minimo you can use any old pot or pan from the kitchen with the supplied adaptor ring and its also got a micro regulator for cooking and simmering and for when the fuel can is low to maintain constant pressure. It is for me a true all in one with the built in lighter and the pot is much better and practical than the Windburner, shorter and wider with a much better handle, its also great on gas efficiency. The Windburner is faster to boil in very high winds and constant high breeze by a margin that is irrelevant to a 30 seconds faster cup of coffee! that is if you can get it to light LOL The Minimo beats the MSR hands down. If you are not going to buy the Minimo due to cost just get the OEX Paul just proved its just about equal at £110 cheaper. If you want to splash the cash get the Minimo the other Jetboils are so so and I'd even suspect the OEX is better than them for a lot less money if you don't need a bigger capacity pot which the jetboils have. I did tell my mate which to buy he bought the MSR to be different he said and also said he would swap it in a heart beat for the Minimo now after using them both for while.

[@BigDDunc]

You could easily add your own silicone around the OEX handles by using a product called Sugru. Would be ideal for the job

[@browsman2328]

I have a Windburner and it is my go to stove. I bought mine on sale for $130 but it is ridiculously expensive here in the states normally at $180. MSR claims it is made in Seattle USA but I suspect it is only assembled in the states from foreign parts, probably Korea because many of the MSR stoves are made there. If I couldn’t find the Windburner on sale I would probably buy the OEM. Very accurate review Paul, thank you.

[@browsman2328]

Sorry the stove is OEX not OEM.

[@WessexMan]

I have the OEX for brews and the odd dehydrated pot noodle type lunch when out walking, and a Trangia Mini for some proper cooking when camping. I do feel the "big brands" take the mickey with their prices on everything from tents to stoves to clothing etc etc, but each to his own. My budget kit has not let me down yet and I have no plans to climb Everest anytime soon, or even go out camping when it's a bit chilly!

[@yetiibob8407]

Had the Hiero since it was released and it's brilliant. Why buy the MSR at nearly 3 times the price?

[@houghtonadventures]

I have the highlander fastboil mk lll which includes pot stand. Works really well. Paid £52 2 years ago

[@mraidymaddful]

I bought the Hiero stove when it first came out. I've used it about a dozen times in all different conditions and it's never let me down. I honestly can't see the point in buying Jetboils and MSR versions when these cost considerably less and do more or less exactly the same thing under the same conditions.

[@Chris66able]

They don't though..MSR & Jetboil make different versions for different conditions. You would struggle with the OEX to melt snow for water, and in extreme weather conditions. For general camping its fine, but there is also a difference in quality, and durability.

[@tomtom4405]

Both look pretty good little stove systems, for a cheap clone the OEX looks very good. I'll stick with my primus lite+ though which is again pretty much the same as those 2 you reviewed except I can use it with frying pans ;) because it comes with three little screw in things to keep an ordinary pot/pan above the burner

[@Campingkayakride]

I have both oex hero and fire maple version of the msr. I prefer the oex. But if time allows the good old trangia mini kit on a soto table is best for relaxing ! 👍😃

[@BenJones-yy6lc]

I've got the oex,can't fault it,why would you pay 100 more for something to do the same job,

[@lightanddreamsphotography7140]

Fascinating, thanks for this Paul. I've been looking at Jet Boil type stoves for ages as I still use old stoves I've had since the 1980s, a small Camping Gaz one and my beloved Trangia. Both are very old tech, and the gas stove has to be used in the tent porch if there is any wind, but they both still work, so why spend money on newer tech? I love OEX gear, I have two of their tents and lots of clothing, all great, so I'm very tempted by their stove now too, but a lack of simmer is a pain.

[@MickOxlong1]

I got the heiro a few months ago, the only things i'm not keen on are the noisy burner and the lid, which is less than flexible when cold. Other than that it's well worth the money (still not a patch on my minimo though...)

[@dmytrochan7402]

It would be useful to know how much gas stove uses to boil 1 liter of water. In what time. And how much does it weigh. I have another cheap stove FMS X1. It works, but needs protection from the wind.

[@darrenray6934]

I think I’d stay with my msr pocket rocket & small wind breaker

[@jimmyjimmy951]

Has to be the OEX for the price..👍🇦🇺

[@Davehaha2001]

I have a fire maple stove and I love it I got it online years ago and haven’t been camping with it but have a 2L kettle with the fins on the bottom from fire maple and I have had power outages with the heatwaves here in Australia so I have been making coffee with the kettle and it’s been great I love the ignition is built in to the burner it’s really nice 👍 great video both stoves look great good video 😀

[@deangoodall]

I bought the Hiero after your original comparison with the Jetboil and I love it….for when I go to campsites with the family. For wild camping tho, I am a BRS or Toaks Siphon fan(with 750ml titanium mug) for the small form factor. Nice to see your doing equipment again. Have you compared Trangia to Toaks Siphon? Keep the great videos coming, hope to see you about the peaks someday.

[@kinderkev]

Hi Paul unfortunately I'm not a lover of the jetboil style stoves especially for wild camping in a tent . I find them too high and unsteady .This makes it dangerous for getting too close to the flysheet in windy conditions . If I had to buy one it probably would be a jetboil as you can buy more accessories . sure the Msr / oex have better wind resistance but nothing a wind breaker couldn't solve . this review just proves that you don't need to buy the most expensive stove to get great results. as stoves they are all great. alittle bulky perhaps but still fantastic stoves 👍👍 choosing the right one comes down to price /weight/ size Usability ?