Does This Chair Actually Work? My IMPOSSIBLE Chair Build

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John Malecki

John Malecki

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@corytenhundfeld1553
@corytenhundfeld1553 4 жыл бұрын
I would stabilize it by adding 4 vertical pieces of wood that connected from the seat slats to the floor. 😎
@betanick14
@betanick14 3 жыл бұрын
It's been done a million times
@generalmemeking334
@generalmemeking334 3 жыл бұрын
@@betanick14 that was the joke
@nzfoy3568
@nzfoy3568 3 жыл бұрын
That's genius
@brookesedgedesigns9441
@brookesedgedesigns9441 Жыл бұрын
I see what you did there. 😂
@chrisbuckley1785
@chrisbuckley1785 Жыл бұрын
That's genius. 🤯🤯
@crmcbrideww
@crmcbrideww 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone gives you a hard time for making chairs that you can't sit on because they seem fragile. I think you should make a throne that you can park your truck on.
@SethXB
@SethXB 4 жыл бұрын
well sure.. he should.. but that doesnt change the fact that he cant.. becuase hyes clearly bad with weight managment in all forms
@BeingMyself__
@BeingMyself__ 2 жыл бұрын
He should try to make a da Vinci bridge
@sheldonclemendore7879
@sheldonclemendore7879 Жыл бұрын
One already exists....lol
@ksdragona_5583
@ksdragona_5583 Жыл бұрын
Now I'm picturing a pick-up sized throne. 🤔
@HeraldTubeman-ve1jr
@HeraldTubeman-ve1jr 3 ай бұрын
@SethXB He’s bad with actually science
@pengwin429
@pengwin429 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone new to woodworking, just because Bessey sponsored this video doesn't mean that him saying " Bessey is the answer" was because of the ad. They really do make the best clamps you can buy. Especially for the price. I have never had a Bessey clamp fail on me.
@John_Malecki
@John_Malecki 4 жыл бұрын
You my friend are correct hahha
@partciudgam8478
@partciudgam8478 Жыл бұрын
Having a clamp maker sponsoting a woodworking project is like a fresh lemo ade stand in the middle of the sahara... The only answer a woodworker can give to how many clamps do you have? Is "not enough"
@skibumhops1531
@skibumhops1531 4 жыл бұрын
John, I think some of the issues may be coming from how the cables are ran through the wood as one cable. I think the way they are ran through the seat back proper allows the chair to slide back and forth. If they were attached to the chair as individual pieces the chair couldn't move.
@Big__Farmer
@Big__Farmer 2 жыл бұрын
More importantly the supporting outer cables need to be tensioned when the chair is under load. The way it was produced here the supporting outer cables become slack under load ie. not supporting the load. Applying more poorly tensioned cables did little to improve the situation.
@deadblade300
@deadblade300 Жыл бұрын
The outside cables don't support the load, they go slack when someone sits down because you're taking tension off of them... The only cable that supports your weight is the center cable, the rest of the cables try to balance the forces. If you imagine a plate on a ball with each corner tired to the ground, as you push on one corner the rope on that corner becomes more slack, while the opposite corner becomes more tense. HOWEVER, your point is still valid to a degree. You can over tighten the outer cables, causing the object to collapse with the smallest tip in balance while it's not under load, but you don't want them to be too slack while under load, or they are not fulfilling thier purpose.
@MM-jn2ny
@MM-jn2ny Ай бұрын
Watching this video vs your new videos, you do a significantly better job explaining things now than you did in the beginning
@alexsarkisyan5192
@alexsarkisyan5192 4 жыл бұрын
“It’s wants to fall but can’t because of constant pressure” Same chair same
@SP3TRAK
@SP3TRAK 4 жыл бұрын
actually the joke is "It wants to fall but can't because of constant stress" same...bzz
@mynameiswhat105
@mynameiswhat105 4 жыл бұрын
Daily dose of memes?
@prozack1312
@prozack1312 4 жыл бұрын
What makes these tensegrity items so “magical” is that it looks like it’s floating; when more and more cables are added it begins to lose that magic because it looks cluttered. The fewer cables the more magical. I also think you should increase the distance between the underside of the chair and the top of the bottom support to really emphasis the illusion that the body of the chair is not connected to the legs.
@Puke0010
@Puke0010 4 жыл бұрын
The center of gravity needs to be centered more over the central cable when someone is sitting in the chair. But the fact that it's a chair means that leaning back places a rotational moment, moving the CG that overpowers the cable tension in the front. a stool would probably work better. Though, it does look awesome.
@John_Malecki
@John_Malecki 4 жыл бұрын
I thihnk i need to triangulate the whole design, add some widt hto the back and it may help! thanks Puke!
@AustinMiniFreak
@AustinMiniFreak 4 жыл бұрын
@@John_Malecki if you make a cable from the lower suspension point to the rear legs, it probably stops the unsteadiness and the lower point cannot move forward. and was able to learn many of your projects and use in making projects in the netherlands
@roan5250
@roan5250 4 жыл бұрын
Had to agree. I would love to see this as a stool as well, since you will only sit upright on the center the twisting/rotation will be minimized
@bertot4563
@bertot4563 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with Schmill. The main cable that holds the weight needs to be towards the rear of the chair. Basically line it up with your spine when sitting. You had it too far forward and created a moment that caused the front cables to burden the load instead of containing the load to main support cable. I’m a mechanical engineer so I saw the issue right away.
@MrJoesephwhetsel
@MrJoesephwhetsel 4 жыл бұрын
Could you add another main cable from the center straight to the main support of the top... and add tension so when you lean back the chair does not
@andrewclark3383
@andrewclark3383 Жыл бұрын
Intermediate skills world class shop tools. Geometry of cables is absolutely paramount. Love the videos and his personality.
@C0rn123
@C0rn123 3 жыл бұрын
What helps a lot with these tensegrity structures is diagonal cords. like from the left front down at the ground to the left back of the seat itself, from the left front of the seat to the right back down, etc. i did that on my tensegrity shelf and the stability improved drastically. evan and katelyn have a video about it
@DIYDREW
@DIYDREW 4 жыл бұрын
"I can sit in any chair and snap it in half!" Same John, same...
@DilluminatiTV
@DilluminatiTV 4 жыл бұрын
“You and your stupid rope” is from Boondock Saints. My favorite movie
@jauken83
@jauken83 4 жыл бұрын
"Why don't you make like a tree, and get the f*ck out of here?!"
@sagemalaikini8534
@sagemalaikini8534 4 жыл бұрын
What is the "SSSSSSSSSSSSymbolism"
@jephzombiekiller
@jephzombiekiller 3 жыл бұрын
Fooken rope*
@skel1tor945
@skel1tor945 3 жыл бұрын
Are you ohbe kaybe
@Tyler-vw9bh
@Tyler-vw9bh 21 күн бұрын
That's right! I knew that sounded familiar. Great movie! Idk about the second because I was hammered when I saw it and don’t really remember lol
@Plrbear98
@Plrbear98 4 жыл бұрын
The Golden Gate Bridge had less cabling than that "floating" chair... interesting build though
@DreamingBlindly
@DreamingBlindly 4 жыл бұрын
It's coz it's a first try for them but yeah taking notes from suspension bridges is probably needed here.
@TrickOrTreatFishing
@TrickOrTreatFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Liar.
@Watttttttt123
@Watttttttt123 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair though!
@wyattstanley5349
@wyattstanley5349 4 жыл бұрын
Actually there is about 80,000 miles of wire on the Golden Gate Bridge and there is approximately 11 to 14 feet of cable there
@1000percent1000
@1000percent1000 4 жыл бұрын
@@SodaDaquavion cringe af mate quit bleeding social platforms
@TheBeardedEntertainment
@TheBeardedEntertainment 4 жыл бұрын
"Is that right Rambo..." 😂 Boondock Saints!
@John_Malecki
@John_Malecki 4 жыл бұрын
HAHAHHAHAHHAH such a good line
@DougTurley
@DougTurley 4 жыл бұрын
@@John_Malecki Is it dead?
@BreakfastClubJiuJitsu
@BreakfastClubJiuJitsu 4 жыл бұрын
"Serial crushed by a big friggin' guy" - One of my favorite lines from that movie, lol.
@loganmorris9005
@loganmorris9005 4 жыл бұрын
You are literally living my dream. Your shop, your job, and your creativity are all dreams of mine. I’m wanting to start an epoxy furniture/countertops business but also want to be able to do all kinds of metal and wood work and build different types of furniture. Literally what you do!
@loganmorris9005
@loganmorris9005 4 жыл бұрын
Oh and home remodels as well!
@offended9081
@offended9081 Жыл бұрын
@@loganmorris9005 did you ever start the business
@cds72209
@cds72209 4 жыл бұрын
That gives me an idea for a full tensegrity dining room table
@KnightsWithoutATable
@KnightsWithoutATable 4 жыл бұрын
Not what would be cool.
@KnightsWithoutATable
@KnightsWithoutATable 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I typoed that one really badly.
@greggarrot8132
@greggarrot8132 4 жыл бұрын
Make a metal frame covered with wood do some seriously scary you've never done it before cable tension with a lot of weight on top of the table it will be Rock Solid
@cds72209
@cds72209 4 жыл бұрын
@@greggarrot8132 I'm in the process of building it got the design done. Its going to be amazing
@daveg2802
@daveg2802 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Amazing fabrication regarding the chair As a civil engineer i can help you by reminding you about one small thing : in this type if design the key is to have both of the gravity forces on the same alignment and by meaning both i mean the person sitting and the vertical cable holding the curved center part in the chair otherwise you will have the extra force coming from the eccentricity that the cable will take Good luck on thr build it was a great one overall
@pengwin429
@pengwin429 4 жыл бұрын
As an amateur wood worker, seeing those perfectly square edges after jointing makes me weak in the knees
@TheHomeMaker1
@TheHomeMaker1 4 жыл бұрын
Dude same I only been woodworking about 2 years now and the two best days of my woodworking life so far we’re the two different days I bought A a plane and B and jointer lol and don’t just buy the cheap ads big box store bench top ones sage up and buy the big 13” dewalt planet and a floor model at least 6” jointer that’s what I have and now it’s so so easy to make perfect square edges and faces that are beautiful and will leave you loving your hobby much much more it’s totally worth it oh and a table saw and track saw and good sanders lol that’s all you need literally
@pengwin429
@pengwin429 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHomeMaker1 I bought a wen lunch box plane and it does a decent job. But I also bought and had to return a porter and cable 6" jointer. The jointer had aluminum tables and jointing just soft yellow pine for one project on it, huge deep scratches went into the face of the jointer leaving positive matching scratches onto the wood face... I'm now saving up for a for model, any recommendations?
@andrewdg90
@andrewdg90 4 жыл бұрын
@@pengwin429 if you can afford it (or save up enough), one with a spiral bit cutter-head. I still need to get one eventually. Probably a Delta, Jet, Grizzly etc.
@Tobbst3r
@Tobbst3r 4 жыл бұрын
You need to shorten the base that holds the wire at the front by a couple inches and then make that arm extend a few more inches towards the back of the chair. I think it's because that fulcrum point is way too high and that's why its tilting back. Please upvote so he can see this!!
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty nice work, John! 😃 It may have problems, but looks really nice! I don't know what to do to fix it, but next time start with a cheaper wood as a prototype. 😬 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@Godemes
@Godemes 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing quote, "Someone skinny! Prepare your ass." 19:03
@H4shT4G
@H4shT4G 4 жыл бұрын
185 people cant even build with legos, its amazing how many keyboard professionals have all the answers and opinions, yet you are the one with a successful business and KZbin channel.. weird how that works.
@notahotshot
@notahotshot 4 жыл бұрын
I know right? It's almost as if other professional woodworkers are actually watching, and commenting on KZbin videos. We know that's not possible though. Why would people who are actually knowledgeable in a subject they're interested in watch videos on that subject?
@gabebosarge1521
@gabebosarge1521 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I know one like might not be much but what ever helps supports what you love I’m glad to do it and I love wood working myself
@ktillers4502
@ktillers4502 4 жыл бұрын
John that is the greatest movie ever! Boondock Saints, and when he says “aye Rambo” hilarious.
@SteamGeezerUK
@SteamGeezerUK 4 жыл бұрын
As a big guy myself (6'4", 260lbs), I feel your pain... :-) One way to possibly stop the rearward motion in the chair as it is now would be to run a cable from the rear section, along the top and down the front of the front section, if that makes sense. This would actually pull tight as weight is applied to the seat and prevent, or at least limit, the rearward movement. If necessary, a groove in the wood will prevent the cable slipping sideways. You could even be really clever and fit a V groove bearing at the apex of the curve on the front section to prevent wear and tear. Also, with regard to the fans/background noise in your shop, I have the same problem. It gets stupid hot in my shop, plus I have the 3D printer running almost 24/7. I found that one of those little sponge covers on the mic really helps eliminate background noise while helping you stay more comfortable. I would also add that, if people continue to moan, tell them politely to do one. After realising very quickly that people will moan no matter what you do to try and accommodate them, it's far better for your sanity to just ignore them. KZbinrs are providing masses of content for free - viewers must learn to make allowances. I generally say to people now "if you don't like it, don't watch". Sure it may cost me a few views, but it's made the whole process so much more pleasant for me and for the people who genuinely appreciate the content.
@MilesHolt
@MilesHolt 4 жыл бұрын
Boondock Saints. The first one. I love those movies.
@deanyank7571
@deanyank7571 4 жыл бұрын
John, what you should do, in order to give the floating chair a full floating feel without any cables is do like your cave coffee table. Use crystal clear resin between the chair seat and chair base, standing on edge, essentially, tongue and grooved into the wood for rigidness. That way, there are no visible cables and it truly looks like the chair is floating. Know what I mean?! Let's see it!!!
@crashweekly7925
@crashweekly7925 Ай бұрын
So what we are going to do is add a few hundred cables to the seat until it doesn't wobble and make it not look like an Impossible chair.
@0vertime2476o
@0vertime2476o 4 жыл бұрын
Hi John, every time any one of you sat in the seat, all tension was lost on the back lines, basically making them useless. Way too many lines for my taste, but the wood looks awesome! Go for a redesign. If you took the base and turn it around, then rebuild the chair with the hook in the front going back, it will relieve some of the seat tension issues. Use a pulley system to maintain tension through the rotational forces. Connect the seat stabilizer lines straight down to a pulley then straight back to the rear of the base to a pulley and up to the back of the chair. This should be more stable. You may still need an extra line in the hook area to prevent it from sliding back too far when you sit down, but that should get you on the right path.
@FreviriousQuigby
@FreviriousQuigby 4 жыл бұрын
"Charlie Bronson's always got rope. He's got a lot of rope strapped around him in the movies, and they always end up using it."
@TheShapeshifter901
@TheShapeshifter901 4 жыл бұрын
Building on what someone said above, the biggest issue that you're facing is the rotational element when someone goes to sit back in the chair and causing the center of gravity (CG) to shift. I believe if that center cable were located further back, by lengthening the top center spoke (coming from the base) and shortening the bottom center spoke (coming from the back and base of the chair) it would greatly reduce the rotational instability you're seeing. Alternately, four straight and fixed length cables coming from either the four corners of the seat, or the two front corners of the seat and the two bottom corners of the back, into the four corners of the base should also prevent this issue.
@rationalicthus
@rationalicthus 4 жыл бұрын
What about a tensegrity hammock, where each “arm” that holds the hammock is a tensegrity element?
@jeffjackson2871
@jeffjackson2871 4 жыл бұрын
9:40 I can't believe the chair disrespected your time and effort like that! Your commentary is so funny and your woodworking skills are top notch, keep up the great work.
@DestroBB
@DestroBB 4 жыл бұрын
We're like 711, we ain't always doing business... But we're always open.
@John_Malecki
@John_Malecki 4 жыл бұрын
Bahaahahaha
@corey9857
@corey9857 Жыл бұрын
I can't even put together Ikea items, yet I can't stop watching this channel!
@tjstengel
@tjstengel 4 жыл бұрын
"What we need, is some rope" "Is that right Rambo?" "Take your stupid ...rope" LOVE this movie!!! "Is it dead?!"
@sparky040887
@sparky040887 4 жыл бұрын
ooooooohhhhh what's the cat's name?
@usherjer
@usherjer 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking Boondox Saints.
@darknight409
@darknight409 4 жыл бұрын
"And shepherds we shall be. For Thee, my Lord, for Thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand. That our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee. And Teeming with souls shall it ever be. In Nomine Patris, et Fili, et Spiritus Sancti." and yes the best two movies I have ever seen
@Jasta315
@Jasta315 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Boondock Saints movie poster in my home theater. One of the best movies ever.
@chrisgirone
@chrisgirone 4 жыл бұрын
and I believe it's "...stupid fuckin' rope!"
@shandor9583
@shandor9583 4 жыл бұрын
As a hobbyist woodworker I'm impressed, but as a fulltime architect watching that cable setup was an absolute pain :D Still works tho, 9/10
@nanoreaper5002
@nanoreaper5002 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome job, sitting in the chair may require some mental focus, Best line in the video "Someone Skinny prepare your ass" John you said that right as my Girl Friend walked in my computer room.
@NaerenVastir
@NaerenVastir 4 жыл бұрын
so fixing the rotation to the back should be fairly straight forward. i know this is a couple months old but if you make another anchor point on the seat base between the main vertical tension point, and the lateral cables, and anchor that to the very back end of the base the end of the "T" shape in the back, and have that nice and tight, it would prevent the bottom of the seat portion from rotating forwarnd and taking the tension off of the main supporting cable. That should also help with any additional lateral movement, as the two taller stabilization cables in the back wouldn't get any extra slack from the seat rotating, and therefore making them actually functional. if you ever try this again with a new design, i would suggest making the seat as level to the base as possible. as it is now, with the seat angled back slightly, it has a natural desire to rotate along the supporting axis. if you make the seat level with the ground, and the anchoring point perpendicular to that instead of the slight angles it has, there wont be nearly as much rotational bias. furthermore, on the seat portion itself, i would have a larger stronger bit of wood perpendicular to the main seat bar in the very front and the very back. that way you can have straight up and down supporting cables instead of trying to triangulate them all along a single center axis. that would really help with lateral movement as well and centering the base portion so the "crane" part supporting the main char is much shorter would help with the footprint size and strength of the overall build. and i wouldn't be too bothered with adding an extra supporting cable to the base to spread the area supporting the chair. your putting all that pressure and strain on 1 cable and one half inch section of the wood. simply by adding another cable you could use a lighter gauge cable, thinner bolts to support it, and still have be able to support more weight on it. just my 2 cents. enjoyed the video none the less.
@DaCaRy1
@DaCaRy1 4 жыл бұрын
As a project it's quite nice. I've always loved this kind of "How the hell does this work?" things. My thoughts about the design are, that the connection between the base and the chair that supports everything should be more on the rear, this way the main tension rope goes with the center of gravity. Probably it's enough to invert the orientation of the wood hooks that he made for the main cable.
@robertwinans7736
@robertwinans7736 4 жыл бұрын
YES! please do another one. I am also a big guy and would love having a chair like this. especially if I built one myself.
@jsc0330
@jsc0330 4 жыл бұрын
“I’m f**king fine..... I’ll catch you on the flip side.”
@wadewilson3681
@wadewilson3681 4 жыл бұрын
“ Boondock Saints” One of my absolute favorites. We can officially be friends now John.
@Andy-jq5yw
@Andy-jq5yw 4 жыл бұрын
"I'll get my stupid rope. I'll get it. There's a rope right there!"
@billparrish4385
@billparrish4385 Жыл бұрын
I think the key to this is to think of the cables on each corner as a 3-legged stool, for a total of 12 cables (13 if you count the center one). Also, think of the base as a 4-anchor-point plane, and the bottom of the seat as another. Now it's a simple task of having 3 cables come up from each bottom corner, to the seat corners directly above and to the left and right (i.e., not the far diagonal corner). Also, engineer some sort of tensioning system into each of the 12 cables, such as turnbuckles, hidden perhaps within the seat and accessible from the bottom. Now those 12 cables, 8 of which are on a diagonal line to 2 other corners, will provide the rigidity you're after, without sacrificing too much of the 'invisibility factor'. And if it does, simply start subtracting cables, starting with the straight vertical ones.
@LogHouseFarm
@LogHouseFarm 4 жыл бұрын
I can't recall ever laughing with someone sitting in a chair!
@a-a-ron8201
@a-a-ron8201 2 жыл бұрын
Boon dock saints is absolutely one of my favorite movies!
@wardencobb7442
@wardencobb7442 4 жыл бұрын
You could benefit from taking some physics courses. The main issues you're encountering are coming from alignment. Your loads are varied, but your cabling is not, it generally follows one direction which is obviously weak and unstable. That is not to advise perpendicular alignment. I recommend short interval curved parallel alignment. Consider compression, ductility and the engineering benefits of shallow, long span lateral and vertical arches when designing your pieces.... Good luck.
@RestoreMoreMCM
@RestoreMoreMCM 2 жыл бұрын
That is the most beautiful carnival ride I have ever seen.☺️
@pengwin429
@pengwin429 4 жыл бұрын
Can we get a "Fancy as F&*%" shirt?
@John_Malecki
@John_Malecki 4 жыл бұрын
I will add it to the idea sheet !
@jamesstorey6606
@jamesstorey6606 4 жыл бұрын
John... to put it bluntly, the center of gravity needs to be 1 to 1.5 inches forward of the users spine. Think about how a rotating desk chair sits and notice that the rod is just forward of the back rest by about 2 to 3 inches. This is because most of your body weight is in the torso which sits closer to the back. Also, if you have good support on the lower section of the back the top section of the back will follow and tension will be your best friend so use something that won't stretch much like a steel braided cable instead of rope.
@Evan_Saboe
@Evan_Saboe 4 жыл бұрын
Boondock Saints!!!! Love the ass clownery!
@John_Malecki
@John_Malecki 4 жыл бұрын
Nailed it !
@terynq9427
@terynq9427 4 жыл бұрын
For stability tighten the front wires a lot more, bringing the chair forward a bit. Then how about, adding wire straight down to floor base, as oppose to two that you did and add tension spring to the center tension wire also to absorb some shock?
@danmccann6666
@danmccann6666 4 жыл бұрын
Just another opinion, you asked... :-) As you surmised, yes, move the support cable much further back to put it under the seat where the seat transitions into the back of the chair. That will help lessen the rotation of that support when you lean back in the chair, but it isn't a perfect fix. For the final support to prevent the rearward rotation of the seat, run a cable from the left rear leg to the current support point at the front of the seat (the hole that was just vacated by moving that support rearward) and then continue that cable to the right rear leg. That should provide more stability as it is tying the previous rotation point to the rear preventing it from further forward movement. Next, remove all the other cables and try taking the seat slat mounts and use 2 different cables to form an X shape for stability. From right side of seat to left front leg. And from left side seat to right front leg. You already have those holes and the added angle of the cables crossing from side to side will add much integrity to minimize the left-right sway. For the rear cables, I'd do the same X shape from the top right back slat to the rear left leg. And the top right slat to the left rear leg. Yes, that means modifying a back slat like the seat slat, but that should stabilize the back side to side . squirrely
@prattmandu
@prattmandu 2 ай бұрын
Love it. I wish I could buy 2 of these and put them in the waiting area in my office. I'm a chiropractor and I often use tensegrity models as a way of explaining the biomechanics of the human body (Compressive forces = bones. Tensile forces = muscles, tendons, and ligaments.) However a chair like this would probably easily cost $1,500+ each so I think I'll see if I can have my uncle (a great woodworker) make them for me. But yeah, damn, this is one of the best examples of a tensegrity chair I've ever seen. Well done!
@danielcox2772
@danielcox2772 2 жыл бұрын
Boondocks Saints. One of the best movies ever!
@John_Malecki
@John_Malecki 2 жыл бұрын
Hell ya Daniel ! never gets old
@factChecker01
@factChecker01 Жыл бұрын
Yood video! I am impressed that it is much harder to get it to work than I thought it would be. The flexing of wood is a problem. That might be why most are made of steel instead of wood.
@dariusdrake7515
@dariusdrake7515 Жыл бұрын
I know that it's been two years, but I thought up a solution that could work fairly simply. By extending the wires that are going up to the front of the seat through the seat itself, and running that wire through the top-back of the seat, you will have a line that pulls the back of the seat forwards, such that it won't fall backwards. The issue with that is that it essentially adds wire pseudo-armrests to the seat.
@joshuabreeden1211
@joshuabreeden1211 3 жыл бұрын
I'm paralyzed from the waist down it would be awesome if I had a realtor that floated. Awesome chair and great video
@clydebalcom8252
@clydebalcom8252 4 жыл бұрын
You need your own Waterboy for some high quality H2O. Awesome build.
@TheLastRealPanda
@TheLastRealPanda 4 жыл бұрын
soo this was the first video i've ever watched of you. and oi gotta say. i like the way you talk freely. like every other youtuber at this point is holding back because of ad revenue. but you just shoutout sponsors every 5 minutes, and honestly i dont even mind. at least your sponsors are relevant!
@maxg6581
@maxg6581 4 жыл бұрын
To fix the rocking back back problem you can run a hole from the base of the seat "arm" (where it pokes out from the rear vertical back support) and twist the 2 wires together and inlay them into the front arm of the base to anchor them at the very bottom where the chair sits on the floor
@Dgahn
@Dgahn 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Definitely make another one that is a chair you can actually sit on for a while.
@Maninawig
@Maninawig 7 ай бұрын
3 years later, seeing you without your shop shades really looks different.
@HeraldTubeman-ve1jr
@HeraldTubeman-ve1jr 3 ай бұрын
Seeing an idiot build something simple you can use nylon with
@northernwesty
@northernwesty 4 жыл бұрын
for the pulling when you try to lean back, i'd put another (short cable) from the front of the seat (the center beam) straight down to the main support beam. Possibly even angled (not much) from the seat beam forward towards the front of the chair onto the main beam. This is one of those times when I wish I could put a picture comment so I could draw what I mean.....
@itsdaroc11
@itsdaroc11 4 жыл бұрын
IT WAS A FIREFIGGHHHTTTTT! great movie. Great floating chair
@jonathonchristensen3279
@jonathonchristensen3279 2 жыл бұрын
OK 1. You effectively mad a 2 point chair. All of the cables rout through the center and you lost your side to side stability as a result. Also adding a tensioning system would really help with the stability. 2. As the center of gravity changes depending on how you seat yourself on the chair, I believe you would need at least 2 cables for the vertical support one in the front and one in the rear. The rear then would either need the front of the frame to be beefy as heck or have struts running from it to the floor to support the load. In conclusion I think you need 6 individual cables to make this chair work, but they all need to run straight up and down. 2 center weight supports. 4 side load supports. Either beef up the lower frame or add some extra supports for the rear cable so it doesn't snap off when you lean back in the chair. Finally for the chair to maintain level the cables need to be tuned to be in equilibrium with each other. After all that I think you would have a really awesome looking chair that is functional. But I think it would be cooler if you used really high strength fishing line, as from a distance it would be harder to see than the cables. 500lb mono or spider wire could be pretty cool and with the changes I suggested should give around 1000lb of capacity on the lines. Though I doubt the wood would forgive anyone for trying that... Anyway awesome build. A+ for initial looks and craftsmanship. D- for functionality and engineering. AKA the perfect office chair for guests, as it looks good but also says, "You are not to sit here.". Hope to see a round 2 on this project soon.
@patrickbrander1775
@patrickbrander1775 4 жыл бұрын
I'm no engineer but the center cable should be placed directly under or slightly behind where your tailbone would be. The more leaned back the chair is the further behind your tail bone it should go. You could flip the way the top and bottom pieces curve over each other and it might be easier. So the bottom arm goes up from the back and forward. And the chair piece goes down from the front and back. Having the bottom more to the back might also help with the torsion of leaning back. That's my two cents.
@loganmarkley7965
@loganmarkley7965 4 жыл бұрын
I would take either a small rod or wire and connect the vertical part of the base , following the angle it is pitched back at, and just connect it to the center of the chair right below where u sit, the rod would eliminate the torque and can look small enough to where it is still floating, however a wire also could do similar if you were to fasten the wire and multiple locations along the back or front of the vertical base on the bottom
@loganmarkley7965
@loganmarkley7965 4 жыл бұрын
100% any rod should eliminate torque since it will be a more fixed joint and resist that force
@javax00
@javax00 2 жыл бұрын
I would try a design that resembles to a sailship. That makes the wires stylish. Masts can have booms to the side to support stabilizing wires.
@SpencleyDesignCo
@SpencleyDesignCo 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done boys!
@martinanglehart
@martinanglehart Жыл бұрын
"You and your stupid rope" - Boondock Saints. Great movie indeed, in my top 10 for sure.
@nielsvanunen7772
@nielsvanunen7772 3 жыл бұрын
How about adding a secondary tension point behind the back of the chair? Meaning the central cable has two points pushing upward, one in front of the backrest (the one that's already in) and one behind the backrest to relieve a bit of the spring when sitting back. This would in theory also mean way less other support cables.
@tfwoodcraft
@tfwoodcraft Жыл бұрын
This is sweet. i still cant wrap my head around whats keeping it from rocking backwards, at least to the point where the lower mounting cable mounting point (bottom of the chair piece) goes forward and its the back of the front vertical support. I'm sure its simple, but its some kind of optical illusion that I can't figure out
@kurtmann654
@kurtmann654 4 жыл бұрын
Love the look. The only way I see fixing the forward/backwards rotation is to move the center of gravity back as you said. Boondock saints is one of my favorite movies.
@Nicolchu_
@Nicolchu_ 3 жыл бұрын
Wicked idea and execution... I have to see every stone, pound & ounce of your hefty frame suspended in one of these chairs. I recon it's going to take some scaffolding-handrail bent with a mandrel and some slightly thicker gauge wire!
@MrPavaroti
@MrPavaroti 4 жыл бұрын
Of course! you have to make another one !,Cheers from Toronto Canada!
@toxman69
@toxman69 4 жыл бұрын
Run the play until it is perfect! Looking forward to chair version 2.0
@PaleRider559
@PaleRider559 4 жыл бұрын
To cut down on fan noise, look into a "Dynamic" Mic. Condenser mics pick up too much ambient sound... this is why they are good for studios. Dynamic mics are made for on stage, so they cut down on crowd noises and other unwanted sounds :)
@PaleRider559
@PaleRider559 4 жыл бұрын
Google "clip on dynamic microphone" for a good list of options. Shure, Sennheiser and Audio Technica make good ones... hope this helps.
@MrHeavyzz4
@MrHeavyzz4 3 жыл бұрын
I would make the bottom of the seat support? parallal to the ground then I would move the long back cables to were the lower back cables are and keep them close to a 45 degree angle. I would also move the back piece forward and relocate center cable. Then I do not think you will need the added cables. Fun Video
@chadlockard1030
@chadlockard1030 11 ай бұрын
Boondock Saints. One of the best movies EVER!!!!!!!!!
@andrewdg90
@andrewdg90 4 жыл бұрын
Bessey IS the answer. At least in my home shop
@stephentanksleymusic7240
@stephentanksleymusic7240 8 ай бұрын
Hm. If it were me, I'd look into heavy-duty springs for the back cables that will dynamically increase tension as weight is applied to the chair so the back of the chair doesn't get floppy. This is such an awesome project though. Great work!
@lenagordon9349
@lenagordon9349 Ай бұрын
I think you should double the support by doing the supports on both sides. With the cables it would look great.
@ericfrederick1215
@ericfrederick1215 4 жыл бұрын
Dude. I just found your videos today. All I have to say is..... “I’m not worthy!” I love your vids man.
@usherjer
@usherjer 4 жыл бұрын
In order to keep the back portion of the chair from racking downward when sitting into it, could you run the cable into the wood just above the rear arm, and groove the contact point, and have it track over the top of the upper arm. You could also inset this mechanism and attach to a screw if you wanted to be able to increase or decrease tension. It may be noticeable, but everything is really. This would help transfer the weight from the back portion of the chair onto that front upper arm.
@nimajneb12345657
@nimajneb12345657 4 жыл бұрын
Could you extend the arm piece thats directly under the chair and run two of what you currently have as centre supports? You'd still have to counteract a sway (make a feature, rocking chair?) But it wouldn't pivot in the same way. Essentially your central support which is the main weight-bearing one become two and is some kind of quadrilateral rather than a just a line.
@toacinpatwary2226
@toacinpatwary2226 4 жыл бұрын
More DIY vs Amateur vs Pro ! Love that series
@Mrsnichols1965
@Mrsnichols1965 4 жыл бұрын
Center points with tension cable move back 3-6". Put "t" head on the base or upper side to create a triangular cable that has two anchor points on the base and one on the seat. It opposes those you used on the front and back, and sits on its point as seen in a plane, creating cross bracing.
@yinznebby1840
@yinznebby1840 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing can be complete without a $1000 domino joiner to compliment the other 100k in equipment to make this chair. So realistic! Im going to hustle out and fill my shop with expensive stuff I really dont need to make a chair. Love your vids! Yinz should make the same chair, only with stuff the average woodworker would have. No CNC, no saw that could cut a mobile home in half, and no $1000 joiner. KZbin vids have become one big advertisement. Could you possibly add some more sponsors?
@themakeshop1499
@themakeshop1499 4 жыл бұрын
Make the seat and seat cable pull against itself. Route the cable from the seat back down to the rear legs, as it does, then come forward and route up to the seat front, that may help keep the tension in the cable.
@EdHadder
@EdHadder 5 ай бұрын
I Love John's Videos 💗🐉💐
@Rockhopper1
@Rockhopper1 4 жыл бұрын
I would put a cam on some of the points, so that as you sit and weight is applied the cam in a pulley block turns the extra surface area tightens the wiring. Look for where the wire is slacking to create instability, and run a continuous line so it self tightens. Also you look at the feet I would run a wire from each foot to the centre lower point then to the other foot, run the wire round the front of the foot to the other side and do that, then back to the other foot, and crimp, so you have a one complete circle of wire, but joining in the middle of the centre span.
@justinroy6204
@justinroy6204 4 жыл бұрын
The CNC is awesome. But these projects are much more impressive (and educational for us that don’t have one) when your making those cuts by hand.
@TrilogyBPM
@TrilogyBPM 4 жыл бұрын
Boondock saints! My all time favorite movie and you just became my favorite wood worker for that lol
@gregoryannicchiarico3570
@gregoryannicchiarico3570 7 ай бұрын
"Go to your home!" Gotta love the Happy Gilmore reference!
@dominiqueharelle1853
@dominiqueharelle1853 4 жыл бұрын
Nice idea i would try adding a tension line just under the front of the seat to the top of the pillar to stop sway back
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