Does this Updated Role break Gmod TTT!?

[@cinderball1135]

The only thing that breaks TTT is how overpowered Ben is whenever he plays a pink role.

[@Living_Life242]

Or Tom if he ever returned, pre-Glitch Forever Traitors or Ravs on a map with lots of hiding spots.

[@malachitoler5789]

He's just so killable they can't resist.

[@Stevo-4896]

It's just a true testament to how much they RDM him

[@Space_Racer]

I'm so ready for Jingle Jam. My favorite thing every year.

[@Pentross]

Hard to decide for me, between desert bus and jingle jam, but definitely best part of the year

[@parkersmith8711]

Just a great time and I love the Yogs just get to hang out with each other too, its nice to see them happy. I also hope the TABS torny comes back again.

[@dzello]

'' Am I invisible? '' (0:11) - Lewis the visible

[@MrJinxmaster1]

This new beggar feels more like a bargainer: "I'll tell you where I got this poon if you give me a toy"

[@Klekowksii]

8:36 So now we have Spy and Scout? 7 more to go!

[@alfredhadesworth9253]

And the (Para)medic!

[@KarmaVanBuuren]

​@@alfredhadesworth9253and the arsonist 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@TheEsrix]

The spy should have a soundboard to choose lines from

[@wibblywobblysineline509]

That's actually really fun. First comment idea I think would actually add to the game. Just an item that says TTT lines from the person you are disguised as. A lot of work tho, but they did the pack-a-punch so maybe is possible. I think the more stunted and awkward the better

[@nessle420]

@@wibblywobblysineline509 I wanna see someone disguised as Ben 'yelling' "Help! I'm stuck in a barnacle! Help!!"

[@p4rtyf4v0r]

Ben's "Help! I'm stuck in a barnacle!"

[@goblinRa2a]

so funny that the map is so much larger than they originally thought. so often a fence just has an invisible wall on it. trapped by gaming experience.

[@Zythria]

I think this is an interesting idea for the bagger, it is bad idea. Because it doesn't solve the main issue of what the point of it is. Honestly, just a upgrade for the traitors. Either it is someone you don't need to kill, someone you already would kill, or an ally. Now it being wishy washy role that bounces teams; just means... Kill it. Yes, RDM karam hit. But... It removes a later on betrayal. OR if you still have credits. You can buy them out and win; regardless of the team you are on; assuming you can buy. Bagger I thought was always cute idea. The fact is... it is kinda not useful now.

[@TheKrazyguy75]

Yeah, the new beggar functions identically to a traitor. You pretend to be innocent until such time as you want to kill people to win the game. The only difference is that the beggar has some legitimacy when pretending to be innocent. But realistically, saying "I'm the beggar" is as poor a decision as saying "I'm the traitor" with this new role change. Innocents have 0 reason to keep you alive.

[@drenin777]

I think with the beggar change the game should just tell you when a beggar gets an Item. Not if it was from a good or bad team or not. So you can keep an eye out for when a good beggar gets an item.

[@conoradams1276]

I love how the dead people still talk when their dead while the spy looks like them. Lewis talking at the end in his Zylus voice since he was dead and Zylus was the spy made me laugh out loud 🤣

[@leahhegen7930]

Everyone: THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ELEC- Me: omg new ttt.

[@Tuturial464]

Better than the election cause this makes me happy

[@Mabra51]

There is no election.

[@aidanfiadh]

24:04 I love kirsty's "dense teenager in a horror film who is about to die" voice

[@entprince3241]

rythian who complains the loudest about RDM really is the king of it and its so funny to watch. good ep loved the gta map too

[@naphackDT]

Because it's not fair if someone else does it.

[@maninthemask6275]

Except he didn’t rdm everything he did was to win he wasn’t just killing any one.

[@KuroroSama42]

Yeah, I'm with Rythian. The new Beggar is dog water. The detective has NO incentive to turn them, since they can go off and get turned again in secret. And if he's already bad, then trying to turn them good is just an unnecessary risk. Maybe they accept the item or maybe they just kill you. And even if you DO turn the bad beggar good, he can be turned bad again - there are more traitors than detectives. Maybe if you have the betrayal be announced, then it could be good. It would be an incentive for the Beggar to stick with the team he first changed to... but he has the option to change teams if things are looking rough.

[@TheKrazyguy75]

Yeah, that's my belief too. The new beggar might as well be a traitor. Saying "I'm a beggar" is basically the same as "I'm a traitor" because by the end of the round, they will be. Thus, there is no reason to not just shoot the new beggar in the face.

[@Jason0binladen]

The meta move would be to ask everyone for a toy pretending to be the beggar and once a bad role gives you something take them out

[@Scnottaken]

Bad roles can see who is a pink role. Only people who have no vested interest in traitors losing can pull this off unfortunately

[@Scnottaken]

@@LuciferLuckless toy toy toy toy

[@davidsmusicbox5866]

I think a way to make the constant swapping sides potential a bit more fun, would be have a cool down between changing sides. Be a flat say 20/30 seconds, or a variable 20-45 seconds that at most only the beggar could see, could be fun. Means they could potentially beg items off their opposing team to change, while just depleting them. And since it sounds like the beggar just had a giant target on their head right off the get go, would add some way for them to sort of protect themselves by depleting resources.

[@AmbienNocturan]

Or it takes more items / more expensive items each time, making it possible but not easy to switch a Beggar. First switch is 1 cred, second is 2-3 creds worth (multiple items or a single more expensive item), etc. I like the cooldown more, makes it less predictable while still making it possible for the Beggar to switch roles and adds more depth to a kind of shallow role.

[@LordZaayl]

A cooldown would be nice, because as it is, an innocent beggar has no real reason to help the innocents win unless they know the traitors are about to lose. Otherwise they want to find the traitors and get a second item and switch again. So they are effectively a turncoat with extra steps.

[@BadVideoWatcher1]

11:59 "What do you mean 'Why did you shoot me?' Because I'm the detective and I kill you" Can't argue with that logic lol

[@nickslayter5835]

22:15 I heard that Ben, I heard that 😂😂

[@crodog100]

This has to be Rythian's fav change because you're telling me he can now just KILL the beggar and not be judged!! No longer is it Rythian doing murders, but simply Rythian killing a traitor

[@l3176l]

[@just.Athena]

I think Rythian's read on the Beggar update is pretty accurate, the new Beggar probably just creates more problems. Since the Traitor team is the "fun" team, there's no reason for Beggars to not just end up on the Traitor team cause they have more interesting items, plus they can get an even bigger advantage by getting an item from an Innocent role first and then swapping again. The Scout seems like a decent addition, kinda like an Innocent Informant. Though the information it gives isn't super useful against roles like the Summoner, though as Lewis pointed out it does confirm what Traitor roles aren't currently in the game which is useful for Paramedics or Mad Scientists. A potential improvement to the Scout could be to get a list of all roles currently in the game, but not which players they are. Something like that with like a minute long cooldown could be interesting.

[@zomble_z]

Without watching any of the video, I'm going to say yes. ("Does this Updated Role break Gmod TTT!?")

[@Tuturial464]

I love the Yogscast. You guys are so much fun in this times. Love from America

[@Jeremyoftherising]

I did not realize that the spy and death note work in that fashion. I was very confused when 'Ravs' typed in Kirsty's name, and she did actaully get death noted.

[@lol1leven]

The new beggar honestly is an interesting idea. I think what could be an interesting change is to tie it to the glitch and renegade roles. Beggar > Innocent > traitor is an innocent pretending to be a traitor. The traitors know who is among them, but not that they are secretly good. Beggar > traitor > Innocent is a traitor going rogue against their own team. Both would get a "normal" traitor icon above their head, but only the original beggar would know which team to win with

[@EmerlyNickel]

Can't wait for Proteshional Strem to donate to the Jingle Jam again this year!!

[@SsfDdc]

I love seeing Lewis before a video

[@Skywarped33]

That's not the beggar that's the briber 😂

[@dommoo2]

This is San Andreas Not 5

[@projectafterworld2557]

Once again hearing "trouble in *TOURIST* town" and imagining what a Tourist role would do. Immediate idea is a neural role with an independent win condition, to take pictures of a specific set of props randomly chosen from the map. If they get all the required images, they unlock "the giftshop" and a handful of credits. Mostly gag and gimmick items.

[@Mydigitalepitaph]

Can't believe Lewis didn't bork the Jingle Jami intro with some classic Lewis awkwardness

[@TakuTheYordle]

"So you are saying you shot the sheriff but not the Deputy?" - Ben; Song reference always noticed. 22:13

[@frankiecedeno3724]

Ravs killing Nilesy and getting the “you’re the last innocent alive” message was pure cinema

[@Blitzkrieger17]

"so you saying you shot the sheriff, but you didn't shoot the deputy?" Friggin Ben 🤣

[@ManLikeGamer]

1:50 2024 The Biggest and Best JingleJam EVER!

[@rrett44556]

If the beggar gets team killed he should respawn as the enemy team. A message like "the beggar has changed teams" similar to the turncoats "a turncoat has changed teams" would be better. Keep the "has killed the beggar" message but make the body not show team.

[@addo4164]

So the beggar can choose which team they want to side with? I guess beggars can be choosers

[@TheSleepingWalrus]

think a good way to balance the beggar may be to make it so if they get 3/4+ items they become a loot goblin, to discourage changing teams too often.

[@Quarter2Doom]

When certain good roles die, the get to possess the bodies of their killer. It would be cool to see a traitor role that did something similar. Perhaps they have to ragdoll and leave their own body exposed to the innocents in order to use this power. Think of the chaos.. your innocent buddy suddenly fires, everyone turns on them.. but it was the traitor who pulled the trigger!!

[@ThisIsImProVISed]

The "beggar's can't be choosers" update to the beggar seems like the correct amount of unhinged

[@JohanFaerie]

So many people are tilted by the end of this. It's just a complete breakdown. lol

[@fuzzball4599]

Ben’s shot the sherif but not the deputy was a brilliant joke

[@GoshDarnProductions]

Oh my god! I made this suggestion on the subreddit! A real happy birthday to me, this being implimented today!

[@King_whiff]

Lewis is probably the only person to get away with that moustache 😆

[@abstractspaces8186]

14:57 Not sure what I just saw but it was beautiful.

[@pacup]

They could make this new beggar a separate class and rename it. The ‘bribeable’. The ‘corruptible’. That way you dont know if they are a beggar that has permanently swapped to your team, or one that can flip flop

[@dahemac]

If the beggar is ever the last traitor, you can just give them a toy and they and the innocents win.

[@maninthemask6275]

“Why did Rythian rdm???” Everyone. Rythian only kills the bad guys 🤔

[@ArthurBurston-lm9oj]

Ben's music reference there was so smooth

[@justinnyugen7015]

New Beggar is just wearing a "Kick Me" sign the whole time. As soon as they change over and are confirmed beggar, it becomes everyone's best interest to kill them, same team or not

[@VideoSage]

I think the new Beggar would work well, if the role swaps were public knowledge.

[@briankale5977]

22:14 flawless delivery ben

[@middlemonster]

Merry Christmas Lewis!

[@slimebaby1211]

14:57 so majestic ✨️

[@IndustrialBonecraft]

"I haven't done anything yet!" INNOCENCE PROVES NOTHING.

[@jmakk2k18]

I'm really excited for jingle jam!

[@TheHorzabora]

Rythian, still King of the RDM.

[@skarloeythomas5172]

I wouldn’t say ‘we have good causes this year’ since it implies you didn’t have them last year.

[@holotori_senior_admin_teno]

Eh, I agree with Rythian. The right thing to do with the Beggar change really feels like to kill them. Then again, if you know they ARE the beggar. Need them to be the swapper, guesser, or jester sometimes. Maybe even CLASSIC jester... huehue.

[@ratchetqwark89]

and kirstys pov is from the early 00's! like 360p? lmao

[@Hexi_Peximal]

RDM stands for Rythian Death Match

[@PedantByNumbers]

If the beggar gets an item from you, and uses it on the opposite team it should give you a credit; incentive to give beggar an item instead of just offing them

[@SpoonHvH]

So excited, gonna be such an elite jingle jam 🎉

[@12trouble123]

Think we can get Tom in a TTT for Jinglejam. Maybe throw Sips in as well 😏

[@eddy1986]

OMG!!!! are we this close to JINGLE JAM???!!!! hell yeah!!!!!!

[@IndelacioLetsPlay]

Green on greenscreen was a bald choice. I signed up my tiltify lewis btw I bet he's not shouting everyone out who does lol! I'm guessing if lewis says it's a great collection it's a lot of RTS/strategy games right? Curious what's in the clundle this year.

[@soleuce3878]

What update doesn’t break TTT

[@Ezillity]

They should add the tiltify to the description. 👀

[@jaydenandressen]

Yes, it does break the game, you guys should keep it in :D

[@jupt]

no WAY it's already almost jingle jam time??? where'd the time go

[@CoZeroIsHere]

Pre crime is a thing. It’s called pre- meditated. Which you can go in jail for.

[@dadisman6731]

Love you guys

[@Ovetupp]

The new beggar doesn't really work at all. Neither did the original role. The scout is just a guaranteed boon for the innocent since the risk is too high for the traitors to claim it. It could be adjusted if the traitors would know whether or not a scout is active.

[@fidoruh]

im not sure how i feel about this change. i'll get used to it eventually

[@ViscousJelly]

No Spoilers today: An Election Day miracle! Just an almost two minute long minute for Jingle Jam featuring some weirdo and a fabulous green screen wall

[@OkiBasatan]

rythian is right, new beggar makes no sense, its basically a third traitor that can openly beg from the detective

[@bushybeardedbear]

TTT is in a perpetual state of Broken. Play with the pieces.

[@TMarlands]

Live action Lewis jumpscare

[@Zyrdalf]

This new beggar seems worse. Especially for Ben.

[@Zyrdalf]

Although lewis played it right. Just don’t let anyone know you are a beggar.

[@Sanyiel]

So the Innocents no longer have any reason not to kill the new Beggar since the Beggar can't be trusted, even after being made Innocent. In fact, it's better for the Innocents to just kill the Beggar straight away and not have to deal with them later when they're inevitably made a Traitor.

[@TheRealPhantomWolf]

(Suggestion) NEW TTT Rule: If the Beggar dies due to being shot and killed within 1 minute of the round starting then it should be that the game instantly ends and the end screen should be Beggar Only Win!!!

[@gumiguy]

interesting to see the beggar is much more goon-y now, though i think i personally prefer the old one.

[@T1GIB]

Ooo an evening TTT!

[@DamnCyrus]

I hope Northgard is in the bundle.

[@Thoran666]

Was Kirsty the drunk all along with that statement at the end? 😆

[@goblinRa2a]

Has a traitor ever tried to fake callout the other traitor as a swapper?

[@mettahlock]

Rythian: Death Machine

[@mungobaggins8197]

Beggar is now loot goblin lite.

[@zeta_volt]

Not even thanksgiving yet

[@maddormouse687]

As usual Rythian is right. New begger is better dead.

[@joduh4665]

Jeeh its the time of the year for the Jinglejam games BUNDLE ™

[@Satherian]

Jingle Jam hype!

[@Sigil_Firebrand]

So what happens if a brown role kills the beggar? Which team do they join?

[@Sturmischer]

Last time I was this early, Simon was still on the main channel.

[@Edgar-zm4mc]

They literally made the beggar a chooser smh

[@PeeWee599]

Rythian seemed extra salty from the start today lol

[@ratchetqwark89]

rythian pov overlay lmao

[@Techstriker1]

The new beggar does not seem good lol.

[@squegeemcgee2403]

Is Kristy's pov low res or low fps or something? Whenever it switches to her it looks bad

[@duplicatedIncident]

WOOOO