Does Training The Hip Flexors Improve Your Vertical Jump?

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My name is Isaiah Rivera and I have the highest officially tested vertical on the planet at 50.5 inches and am the co-founder of THPstrength, a company that focuses on vertical jump training for athletes.
What makes me a little different from most athletes that jump high is that I started with a pretty low vertical and documented my entire journey on this channel. Here is my journey in a nutshell:
14: Started working out to jump higher for basketball
16: Hit my first dunk and shortly after found out about the world of pro dunking
17: Trained like a madman and hit my first between the legs dunk
18: Entered my first professional dunk contest
19: Knee pain almost made me quit dunking
20: Met my coach John Evans, who helped me get rid of knee pain
21: Won my first international dunk contest
22: Tested a 48 inch vertical and started coaching full time
24: Tested a world record 50.5 inch vertical
The reason I make so much free content about jumping higher now is because it’s a resource I wish I would’ve had when I was in high school that would’ve prevented a lot of unnecessary mistakes and injuries.
My mission is to share my passion and love for dunking and training and to make dunking an officially recognized sport.
I hope that I can be an inspiration for your jump training and dunking journey,
Isaiah

[@AlteredState1123]

Thanks for putting the Bees over Poes cult in perspective. Its claims are out there at times. It excels most in marketing.

[@dennisrobinson8008]

Knees over toes flexibility is important. Before i had this flexibility, i would get "over use" soreness in my tendons around the knee. With the knees over toes flexibility, this is now gone. My theory is there is a little more room in the knee joint. Also i can get into more athletic positions with this mobility. So you should get it, it doesn't take long at all. Get all your mobilities that you can, energy flows thru the body better when you have it.

[@lukeandresen9856]

So, here’s the problem - you guys say he’s better at marketing, true. You say he’s just a marketer and lots of hate for someone who’s bringing valuable free information to a lot of people, myself included. You also said yourself you didn’t do the program long enough. This KOT shit is way deeper than you think. It’s not just Ben Patrick - it’s Poliquin and his acolytes. They’re not right about everything but damn they know their shit. The whole point is to study the weak points in the body and erase them. Be balanced and have strength through your fullest range. It can act as accessory and complimentary work. He doesn’t claim KOT basic standards training itself will make you jump higher due to gaining more force but due to the fact you can now elicit 100% of your force because you’re PAIN-FREE. This isn’t a cult although many members and coaches act very cult-like but it’s far more just genuine exuberance in feeling better all the time. There’s no need to bash Ben and his system - it’s AMAZING! He’s not saying that’s the end all be all for jumping your highest - it’s all for longevity. He’s saying once you’re stable and balanced that it’s time to place more force on the body because now you’re more resilient! Hope that helps in case you don’t know the full perspective. Most don’t because they haven’t spent enough time learning from Ben and his group. If you guys collab’d it would be awesome and I’m sure he would do it.

[@aydenmedrano3270]

100% agree and a collab would be amazing

[@christianb164]

A few things here. Coming from someone who did ATG for 8 months and went from 0 knee pain to 8/10 knee pain. 1. Ben would never collab with THP. 2. His methods are based off of common sense and not science. 3. They dont have a single isometric in their entire program which is singlehandedly the best exercise to treat tendonopathy. 4. Their marketing is full of empty promises and lies. 5. The hoop they have in their gym is 9’10” and dummy soft. That last point was just for fun🤣

[@zwilliamsbrackett]

@@christianb164well for someone who has been in the program for 3 years , everything u said was false , don’t blame the program for your knee pain when u didn’t take your time and tried to rush the process . That is on you bro

[@christianb164]

@@zwilliamsbrackett tried to rush the process is crazy. I went from perfectly healthy knees. Seriously never having knee pain not once. To terrible tendonitis that worsened and worsened because of sled and the absence of isometrics. Do a couple hrs of study and you will see atgs starting points should be the ending points. Sled is a phase 4 exercise meaning it stretches and lengthens the tendon. Thats called sport. When you have severe tendonitis stretching and lengthening of the tendon is not what you want. Btw sled only hurt my knees the day after the session. So i was never working through pain during the session. Just study for an hr and you will see Ben has very little to no scientific evidence for his methods. It worked for him and a few others. ATG IS NOT FOR THE MASSES.

[@ozancanca9740]

Isiah, you made a gazillion shorts about big penultimate and quick 1-2 Plant for maximizing vert. Guess what muscle brings that block foot next to plant foot as quick as possible?

[@PaulMartinez-l7x]

Love your podcast, it's very clinical which is great. Im also a Jordan sneaker collector as well, is there a way that you can pan your camera further so we can see your Jordans as well. They're awesome. That way we can also see your entire lower extremities when you explain the exercises especially when you're demonstrating the exercises and anatomy. Thank you, you guys are great!!!

[@pierre2324]

Yea I do think stretching them can be good if they're tight, it would overstretch/strain doing triple extension on max effort jumps

[@LL-rc2ol]

also essential for sprinting for max force

[@maniacmcgee7395]

Not sure if you guys have done this already could you talk about ankle mobility

[@LukescoredonYOU]

Idk if it’s important to train but he said that him and some other people that jump high have good ankle mobility in his video about the best stretches

[@dennisrobinson8008]

On the calves, ankles and feet. Calfe, ankle and feet strength is important in an athlete. In jumping it is not the most significant part, but having that strength will prevent the foot from collapsing when you are putting force into the ground. So less force bled out, more force into the ground. In sprinting they are saying that 3-4x bodyweight vertical force is trying to collapse the foot. No one will hold 3-4x bodyweight one foot but 1.5-1.75x is reasonable... The more force you can generate the more control you will have. So you want this strength and rigidity.

[@shankariyer3726]

100%. Idk if i dropped this in text, but when I was working through my sports hernia, I had to cut out all barbell and power movements in favor of machine movements. I trained the adductors, hip flexor stability, and some lower abdominals and ended up sparking my one foot bounce as my hernia healed.

[@shankariyer3726]

But I didn't see any 2 foot gains at all. Part of it could have been I was working through instabilities and finally got stronger, part of it could have been weight loss

[@KierenJames-Lubin]

a couple years ago I played flag football for the first time in years. I was expecting hip / hamstring / ankle soreness but got extremely intense hip flexor soreness instead. It went away after a couple weeks of playing, but in that scenario some preparatory work might be warranted.

[@whiteboyrrickk]

these vids are so 🔥 thanks guys.

[@shinessmiles6586]

I have a quick question, i have back pain when i land, is it due to hip flexibility?

[@n.laughpuff6653]

Yea i actually think hip flexor training is mostly done to reduce muscle imbalance. Especially when doing single leg squatting excercises, puts quite a bit of strain on the hip flexors to balance cuz they just arent trained much compared to the quads hams and glutes. I can see how u need a strong foundation with ur hip flexors to sort of balance against the rest of the huge leg muscles? Maybe?

[@TomasAmaya-is4qz]

Do you guys have any advice for calves. I have a 32 inch vert with a goal of 36 at the end of the year, with the feeling that my calves are lacking. Thanks, and loving the podcasts❤

[@LamborghiniAJ]

Calves don’t help your vertical. Google this topic.

[@jiteshjensondas277]

@@LamborghiniAJ they do help your vertical lmao literally every elite athlete including Isaiah and John have said so...

[@jiteshjensondas277]

Train seated calf raises and standing calf raises with heavy resistance that's all you need for calves

[@u15increase77]

U need to get stronger an jump more not calves they play a role but shouldn’t be your focus

[@dennisrobinson8008]

On the calves, ankles and feet. Calfe, ankle and feet strength is important in an athlete. In jumping it is not the most significant part, but having that strength will prevent the foot from collapsing when you are putting force into the ground. So less force bled out, more force into the ground. In sprinting they are saying that 3-4x bodyweight vertical force is trying to collapse the foot. No one will hold 3-4x bodyweight one foot but 1.5-1.75x is reasonable... The more force you can generate the more control you will have. So you want this strength and rigidity.

[@shankariyer3726]

the chad Bordan BilBanon vs the virgin Bees over Boes

[@thijskrijger3056]

Why hate on knees over toes guy? He has great workouts based on longevity for everyone

[@shankariyer3726]

@@thijskrijger3056 Not for me. I gave that program 19 weeks and still had knee pain with no gains in strength or vertical. THP actually fixed my knee pain

[@xtatsu4045]

@@thijskrijger3056 its false than what he claims to be.

[@LukescoredonYOU]

@@thijskrijger3056idk man for athletes I think telling them to do stuff like rib raises and atg split squats isn’t gonna help that much and could lead to more injuries. For older people who are just trying to get up the stairs his advice is probably good. Just saying I don’t see any elite athletes doing atg stuff

[@tommyprogress]

Hyperbolicvert was ahead of its time

[@domidunks]

Nah bro BoingVert 😂

[@n.laughpuff6653]

Bruh, i dont even care if it makes me jump higher. I had to train it after i had pain in my hip flexors from squats and deadlifts (or maybe it was from split squats?)

[@Turbopro27]

Get this guy some parkour training, can’t imagine how crazy good he would be at that

[@readywhen]

Parkour training involves too much skill for solely the jump ability to transfer over much, I believe.

[@Turbopro27]

@@readywhen say for a vertical wallrun, I believe his jump power would help not just at the units jump but as he’s boosting off the wall

[@n_k_s_b]

scenario where hip flexion strength is KPI: soccer player?

[@MrBillybathgate5]

good

[@christianb164]

I used to be on the Bees Over Toes training and i went from 0 knee pain to a 8/10 knee pain while on it. I developed bad quad tendonopathy and was basically gas lighted week in n week out to not work through pain! Well all the exercises they gave me hurt my knees! That was until i did hour upon hours of study on THP and did their free load management program that took my knees from an 8/10 to a 1/10 in just a few months. John and Isaiah are scientific. Ten Ratrick uses common sense based off of little to no evidence whatsoever. Join THP today!🤣

[@xtatsu4045]

WHERE IS MY BOY AUSTIN!?

[@Goofyvids123]

I always be getting beaten to the comments I swear😭

[@eimakaiomanguy5532]

I got an Iliopsoas strain just with squatting deep often. I don't feel like isolation would be anything more than overkill

[@ianlewis5910]

That's stupid as f***. Do some isometrics for your hip flexors; it's not just for making your knees healthy. It works for every joint.