Does Usman Deserve #1 P4P? | UFC 278 Preview

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@footballekstraklasa5682
@footballekstraklasa5682 2 жыл бұрын
Really? Nothing about Leon Edwards beating Kamaru? Not a video, tweet, anything? Complete radio silence from Geordie :/
@auranewaters9574
@auranewaters9574 2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t even watch it i think. He should stop pretending to be a UFC fan tbh
@Sam-kq6be
@Sam-kq6be 2 жыл бұрын
And Leon is from the uk
@lewishurley5591
@lewishurley5591 2 жыл бұрын
Volk 50-45 against another p4p level fighter and one of the all time greats, as well as destroying Aldo, Ortega, Zombie. Not even mentioning the win over Mendes. Hes clearly the number 1 for me.
@willjohnston3473
@willjohnston3473 2 жыл бұрын
got to agree mate, the way he just beat max was mental, hes insanely good
@stephenahern9562
@stephenahern9562 2 жыл бұрын
He did not “destroy” Aldo lol. He held him against the cage for 15 minutes.
@lewishurley5591
@lewishurley5591 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenahern9562 however you want to word it he won that fight very comfortably. Look what Aldo has done since.
@stephenahern9562
@stephenahern9562 2 жыл бұрын
@@lewishurley5591 in my opinion, that win almost doesn’t count - it wasn’t a “fight”, neither man brought their A-Game that night, was a proper dud. That said Volk looks incredible currently. Top 2 P4P choice for sure, only other contender is Charles.
@Ev_box
@Ev_box 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenahern9562 he only held him against the cage for the last couple minutes of each round, when it was on the feet aldo had nothing for volk
@CB26-l8b
@CB26-l8b 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a weird one. I feel Geordie views Usman’s wins over Colby as much better wins as they were razor close but because Volk’s last 3 have been absolute beat downs, the competition is viewed as inferior. Volk is a victim of his own success
@jakeonyx4775
@jakeonyx4775 2 жыл бұрын
Good point mate
@SopranoLFC
@SopranoLFC 2 жыл бұрын
His second against Holloway should have arguably went the other way you could say, but the third was so dominant so idk
@Ev_box
@Ev_box 2 жыл бұрын
@@SopranoLFC i think there’s a stronger argument for usman not winning that second colby fight than there is for volk not winning the 2nd fight
@sochioranmyaku
@sochioranmyaku 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ev_box no there isn’t. Usman outstruck Colby in each round but the 4th and the 2nd round was arguably 10-8. Volkanovski got dropped two rounds in a row against Max. 18/27 media scores gave that fight to Holloway. Not a single media member scored that fight for Colby. That’s a 49-46 scorecard for Usman.
@Ev_box
@Ev_box 2 жыл бұрын
@@sochioranmyaku colby outstruck him every round except 1 and 2, watch it again. round 2 was a 10-8 I agree so it should have been a draw. volk getting dropped is completely irrelevant
@charsmith8646
@charsmith8646 2 жыл бұрын
Leon gonna surprise a lot of you man, everyone keeps doubting him and I really think he’s gonna take the belt saturday
@jeomireles7101
@jeomireles7101 2 жыл бұрын
🫡💯
@bboybreezi2417
@bboybreezi2417 2 жыл бұрын
@RTruth it did! What a absolute legendary knockout!
@ThomasThorr
@ThomasThorr 2 жыл бұрын
yep, after getting his ass handed to him for 8.5 rounds he finally managed to win.
@Dubrum
@Dubrum 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasThorr P4P, headshot, dead 😂🤣😂🤣
@jamesanderson1819
@jamesanderson1819 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasThorr 8 rounds what the fuck are u on about are kid
@adamburgess7890
@adamburgess7890 2 жыл бұрын
No mention of Leon post fight, the disrespect is unreal.
@innit4983
@innit4983 2 жыл бұрын
i remember people talking so highly of max before the volk fight, but now hes just a bum. its like "NO U IDIOTS!" max isnt a bum, volk made him look like one bc thats how good he is. he put on a striking clinic against one of the best strikers in UFC history.
@yasak8383
@yasak8383 2 жыл бұрын
Not to real fight fans
@tomo9587
@tomo9587 2 жыл бұрын
Who called max a bum?
@scottydog771
@scottydog771 2 жыл бұрын
This is the problem with lots of fans, they've never trained in an aspect of MMA so can't appreciate the level of skill fighters have. They just go off wins and losses so see that Max lost three times to Volk so think it's done. I mean after the second loss Max dominated a top 5 in Kattar then beat Yair. He's clearly the number 2 in the division at the moment and is still a lot younger than Volk (I think Max is only just 30) The guy still has time to come back and get the belt again before he retires. Just don't think it is wise for him to go to 155. I don't know if he's big enough after seeing that Dustin fight
@James0741
@James0741 2 жыл бұрын
That Max and Colby comparison was flabbergasting to hear
@mywarismylife
@mywarismylife 2 жыл бұрын
No talk or praise of what Leon did damn Geordie
@omairshaikhh
@omairshaikhh 2 жыл бұрын
No way he rated Colby higher than Max 😂
@ItsameAlex
@ItsameAlex 2 жыл бұрын
volk is not number 1, they did NOT move him up a rank, fake news.
@lsm1842
@lsm1842 2 жыл бұрын
He's a complete casual when It comes to mma
@barebasics
@barebasics 2 жыл бұрын
@@lsm1842 I don’t mind casuals tbh but tg claims he knows his stuff and then gives the worst takes ever 🤣
@JustSomeGuyWithAMustache886
@JustSomeGuyWithAMustache886 2 жыл бұрын
Beating Max Holloway 50-45 is a god tier accomplishment
@mattgibson7650
@mattgibson7650 2 жыл бұрын
Thank god for this lad, i dont know his name but he is bang on when he was going through the names of opponents. Saying usman is No.1 P4P because he beat colby x2, jorge x2 and bruns. Volk has beat holloway 3 times (Who is and always has been higher P4P than all 3 of those) plus aldo and ortega (Submission threat with decent stand up similiar to burns). Even look at Izzy hes beat rob whitaker twice and there is very little if anything between colby and him P4P. Fuck really needed to get that out Lets go Rocky
@tsgrapiidz6970
@tsgrapiidz6970 2 жыл бұрын
his name is gio
@scottydog771
@scottydog771 2 жыл бұрын
While I agree with what you say, using the Aldo fight is really sus. P4P is meant to be thing of recent events the same way the rest of the UFC rankings are. The Aldo fight was 3 years ago and sure Aldo has been on a decent run since then but I don't think it should bolster Volk's current P4P ranking.
@combatsports4876
@combatsports4876 2 жыл бұрын
9:25 I think the average man walking down the street would fight at 145 or 155 not 170, 170s walk around at about 190 pounds
@DmDaPDm
@DmDaPDm 2 жыл бұрын
Right, the most stacked division is actually lightweight.
@qedydu5946
@qedydu5946 2 жыл бұрын
It's honestly bantamweight
@combatsports4876
@combatsports4876 2 жыл бұрын
@@qedydu5946 yea true Geordie saying the average man down the street would fight at welterweight means everyone would be around 6ft and be 200 pounds I’d say most people are around 5”9 and walk around at 160 pounds which means they would fight at 135 or 145
@Mjhavok
@Mjhavok 2 жыл бұрын
Welterweight is not the most stacked in the division. That is currently bantamweight or maybe lightweight. Welterweight has gotten better recently with the introduction of Rahkmanov, Brady, and Hamzat.
@BittaLimbs
@BittaLimbs 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@joshcrouch3821
@joshcrouch3821 2 жыл бұрын
Bantamweight is underrated af
@sammorton742
@sammorton742 2 жыл бұрын
Tbf I think welterweight is more stacked than lightweight in terms of title contenders and bantamweight lacks the star power that lightweight and welterweight have which makes it slightly less exciting.
@Cristiano_Ronaldo7_
@Cristiano_Ronaldo7_ 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Bantamweight will be the most exciting division in the coming years. Lightweight is in a bit of a dip right now but I have no doubt it'll spike again with the title fight, possible return of Conor, Volk moving up (superfight), and not to mention killers like Fiziev and Paddy gaining attention now.
@Guru-ue2yp
@Guru-ue2yp 2 жыл бұрын
It’s Khamzat, not hamzat isiot
@lareece.andrae9383
@lareece.andrae9383 2 жыл бұрын
Still no opinion on our British fighter Leon bringing home the strap???
@duncanwalter3613
@duncanwalter3613 2 жыл бұрын
I think Volkanovski deserves P4P, but Usman didn't deserve to have that taken away from him so I just think it's weird
@the-sneaky-skunk2499
@the-sneaky-skunk2499 2 жыл бұрын
He has been removed from pound for pound from number one on tapoligy but not the UFC
@ItsameAlex
@ItsameAlex 2 жыл бұрын
volk is not number 1, they did NOT move him up a rank, fake news.
@ramonsalazar32
@ramonsalazar32 2 жыл бұрын
usman is still the #1 do research before you comment true gordie was wrong
@debanjanghosal618
@debanjanghosal618 2 жыл бұрын
Here after Leon shocked the world
@MrMatttildesley
@MrMatttildesley 2 жыл бұрын
Love the content but Featherweight is far more stacked than welterweight. Yes the average man would be walking around at 170 but after camp and cuts they fight at 145/155 hence why they are so deep.
@beckett1811
@beckett1811 2 жыл бұрын
I don't feel like true geordie gets many things wrong, but his take on volk not being P4P #1 is crazy man volk has made his division look so easy. Volk and Izzy have closed the gap in their division I'm keen to see what Usman can do against Leon as Leon is a substantial test for Usman as he has an excellent range for striking and putting people in the clinch and doing damage. The only things that look bad for Leon are the wrestling and grappling of Usman as that is so strong but like Jai Herbert and Nathanial Wood said "all we have done is wrestle, wrestle, and wrestle"
@sam5751
@sam5751 2 жыл бұрын
Like khamzat said “no one can be pound for pound number 1 while Jon jones is still here”
@theshittyrestaurant
@theshittyrestaurant 2 жыл бұрын
@@sam5751 he isnt here though, that mans practically retired
@sam5751
@sam5751 2 жыл бұрын
@@theshittyrestaurant the Jones vs stipe fight has pretty much been confirmed for ufc 282 in December sooo. Go watch bispings most recent video to see for yourself.
@DmDaPDm
@DmDaPDm 2 жыл бұрын
@@sam5751 But it has been years so we can have a new p4p in the meantime.
@sam5751
@sam5751 2 жыл бұрын
@@DmDaPDm he’s back in December tho but knowing Jon he’s gunna find a way to fuck up before then.
@alexdeacon8622
@alexdeacon8622 2 жыл бұрын
Where's the follow up to the fight?
@kanthony9154
@kanthony9154 2 жыл бұрын
He's butthurt what a jokeman
@joshwiggan
@joshwiggan 2 жыл бұрын
Volk beating Prime Max Hollway 3x and Jose Aldo is better than any win Usman has #1 P4P Volkanovski
@remix-yy1hs
@remix-yy1hs 2 жыл бұрын
Max is punch drunk. He been in so many wars, he is no way near his prime
@JSmooove98
@JSmooove98 2 жыл бұрын
Not only did Volk lose the 2nd fight, but Colby would slaughter max. So no, you’re completely wrong bud
@harambe7430
@harambe7430 2 жыл бұрын
@@JSmooove98 he didn’t lose the 2nd fight though
@jamesmobility1746
@jamesmobility1746 2 жыл бұрын
Love the content!! But rating Colby higher than Max has to be one of the craziest takes of heard here. Put some respect on Holloways name!! Colbys best win is either a washed up Robbie Lawler or RDA (a lightweight) VS Aldo, Edgar, Ortega, Oliveria, Yair, Kattar
@davido289
@davido289 2 жыл бұрын
I could understand TG’s point until he said Max isn’t on the level of Colby wtf😭
@Washekk2712
@Washekk2712 2 жыл бұрын
Holloway is in the top 3 145 of all time, meanwhile Colby has win over rda, mia, lawler and thats it, no other good wins against good opponents
@lsm1842
@lsm1842 2 жыл бұрын
Gordie is a new kind of casual 🤦🏻
@robbiecale3327
@robbiecale3327 2 жыл бұрын
Brother no one expected Usman to lose let alone get knocked out cold
@lsm1842
@lsm1842 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbiecale3327 Of course, but what does that have to do with it? I never insinuated that that's the reason I classify him as a casual it has nothing to do with the outcome of the fight
@yassinakl2705
@yassinakl2705 2 жыл бұрын
@@lsm1842 well he is so much of a acsual that he met with michel basically talks to him daily and predicted his successes 10 year ago he’s been watching for 10 fucking years check the vid he has with michel so u know
@yassinakl2705
@yassinakl2705 2 жыл бұрын
@@lsm1842 also idk why u gotta hate like danm so what if he got stuff wrong like he ain’t a casual bro like u guys so toxic
@auranewaters9574
@auranewaters9574 2 жыл бұрын
@@yassinakl2705 Lol youre throwing a tantrum over that comment? Chill bro hes not wrong. Geordie doesnt watch UFC he knows big names and narratives
@Niallcba
@Niallcba 2 жыл бұрын
A 50-45 win over Max Holloway, considering how good he looked in his 2 fights prior, makes you the number 1 pfp fighter no questions asked
@DmDaPDm
@DmDaPDm 2 жыл бұрын
1 win over a guy you've already beat takes you over. Thats silly.
@pedley04
@pedley04 2 жыл бұрын
@@DmDaPDm lmao. I don’t quite think you know what you’ve said. Usman has already beat most of the guys in the division. He’s beat Colby twice and he’s going to fight Leon for a second time. Judging by your statement if Volk beats anyone he hasn’t fought he should be pound for pound number one because he’s “beaten someone new”. No Volk should be number one because he’s beaten higher level opponents than Usman has in Max. Max was 6 in the pound for pound rankings
@zohaibzia5991
@zohaibzia5991 2 жыл бұрын
@@pedley04 people really forgetting how good Max's looked in his fights before Volk and how dominant of FTW champ he was.
@DmDaPDm
@DmDaPDm 2 жыл бұрын
@@pedley04 Lmao i dont think you quite understood anything i said and it was 1 sentence. Beating Max Holloway shouldn't have pushed him over Usman. And it turns out it didn't, Usman still no.1.
@pedley04
@pedley04 2 жыл бұрын
@@DmDaPDm haha lol. Beating a guy who’s pound for pound number 6 after an impressive win streak at the top of your division should take you above the guy who’s pound for pound number 1. Which if Usmans opponents are higher than Max on the pound for pound list of that’s right none of them. Beating Colby over a year ago shouldn’t keep him at number one when Volk has been active and fighting a guy that is better than anyone that Usman has fought and absolutely dominating him
@Sheak420
@Sheak420 2 жыл бұрын
Well this didn’t age well 🤣🤣🤣
@user-gy9je9vh9z
@user-gy9je9vh9z 2 жыл бұрын
People forget kamaru has been rocked by Colby who is a much inferior striker compared to Leon. I hope Leon can capitalise on stunning and rocking kamaru. Rooting for Leon
@imanamerican8662
@imanamerican8662 2 жыл бұрын
Max also dropped volk, so did Ortega right before that super close submission attempt he escaped from
@auranewaters9574
@auranewaters9574 2 жыл бұрын
@@imanamerican8662 Ortega didnt knock down Volk he caught him of balance on one leg and knocked him over
@crunch1495
@crunch1495 2 жыл бұрын
Aged pretty well.
@joshs3265
@joshs3265 2 жыл бұрын
Geo is bang on with everything… I get Geordie has had Usman on the pod and Usman is a world beater but Geordie is CRAZY in saying that about Max and is always very consistent in never giving the smaller fighter a fair crack… He clearly doesn’t know much about Volks opponents and doesn’t watch many fights below light weight
@DmDaPDm
@DmDaPDm 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree though, whats Volk done that Usman hasn't? Their closest common opponents is Max and Colby. Usman finished Colby. Max has not been dropped by Volk.
@BigDunc1509
@BigDunc1509 2 жыл бұрын
@@DmDaPDm max is miles ahead of Colby and hasn’t been dropped EVER in his career
@qedydu5946
@qedydu5946 2 жыл бұрын
Volk beat Aldo, Mendes, Ortega, Holloway, TKZ,
@JustSomeGuyWithAMustache886
@JustSomeGuyWithAMustache886 2 жыл бұрын
@S U R V I V E yes but beating Max Holloway 50-45 is much harder, it’s a god tier accomplishment.
@Lowequay
@Lowequay 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if Michael Bisping was the first to declare it the Oliv-era, but he definitely coined it. Props to Bisping.
@shafiq7175
@shafiq7175 2 жыл бұрын
Max is not the same level as covington????!!! Max defended his belt 4 times and looked damn near invincible in all of them. No offence to colby but max is higher then him p4p and for volk to beat him the way he did is insane
@bwilliams4703
@bwilliams4703 2 жыл бұрын
Volk is number one Geordie don’t know what he’s talkin bout Edit: max is ten times the fighter that colby will ever be cuz colby is a wrestler, I hate when people say he’s a complete fighter when he obviously is not where max is actually by far the only man in that division that challenges volk and it’s so obvious.
@christianochoa1279
@christianochoa1279 2 жыл бұрын
Featherweight is way more of a stacked division that the welterweight division. Light weight is also a deeper division.
@adamburgess7890
@adamburgess7890 2 жыл бұрын
I know he's such a wally.
@sabzuski
@sabzuski 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have to disagree when they talk about the most depth division. 155 is unbelievably stacked.
@godimready2go
@godimready2go 2 жыл бұрын
155 is overrated, it has star power but nowhere near as stacked as 135.
@sabzuski
@sabzuski 2 жыл бұрын
@@godimready2go I wouldn't say overrated, but yeah 135 is right up there as well. Both are incredible
@godimready2go
@godimready2go 2 жыл бұрын
@NXTIME u really said DP, Gaethje nd Tony 💀
@keodejong2741
@keodejong2741 2 жыл бұрын
Colby Covington a much better fighter then max Halloway? Absolutely not. Colby has never beaten top 5 fighter. Max cleared out the top 5 before getting the title shot. I love you Geordie but dear god hahaha
@sam5751
@sam5751 2 жыл бұрын
So your saying Holloway would beat Colby. What are you talking about 😂😂 Colby would wrestle fuck the life out of him and win by decision. It would be close though.
@sam5751
@sam5751 2 жыл бұрын
@@olbapoli4074 max has absorbed the most punches in ufc history. Case closed.
@lewishurley5591
@lewishurley5591 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was a crazy crazy take. In what world is Colby a better fighter than Holloway.
@SS-tz3qd
@SS-tz3qd 2 жыл бұрын
@@sam5751 Pound for pound Holloway is easily better and more accomplished than Colby and it's not even close. Colby is a fantastic fighter but let's not be disrespectful to Max.
@sam5751
@sam5751 2 жыл бұрын
@@SS-tz3qd I’m not trying to discredit max bro trust me I’m not. I remember watching him back in early days when he was like 20 haha. But max is a boxer with not so great take down defence I mean if Connor mcgregor can take you down I think there’s a problem. It’s a fight anything can happen right but in my opinion it would go similar to how the masvidal fight went
@helloiamoli7648
@helloiamoli7648 2 жыл бұрын
Geordie mate, you know absolutely nothing about the sport. Usman > Volk is a fucking ridiculous take. Post-prime Masvidal x2, Colby x2 (who hasn’t beaten anyone in their prime since like 2016), and Burns vs. prime Max x3 (arguably top 5 P4P in MMA himself), post-prime Aldo (still 100x the fighter Colby is) + demolishing Ortega and TKZ. It’s not a hard debate at all, is it.
@Ev_box
@Ev_box 2 жыл бұрын
i agree that volk is number 1 but you’re underrating colby imo
@davon7100
@davon7100 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Ev_box Alot of people are underrating Colby but if you saying hes greater than Max youre greatly overrating Colby.
@sangeenyahya5239
@sangeenyahya5239 2 жыл бұрын
Man just called burns a wrestler??? A bjj king sure but not a wrestler
@TheRajan96
@TheRajan96 2 жыл бұрын
This whole argument that Leon got rocked by Diaz. Leon was bored after ragdolling Diaz, got caught. Mistake by Leon but he won’t do that again
@likebutton9848
@likebutton9848 2 жыл бұрын
That was a great listen did not even feel the 14mins
@jamiestevens3074
@jamiestevens3074 2 жыл бұрын
Colby has never beat anyone in the top 5. Yet Geordie calls him high level 😂
@julathi3212
@julathi3212 2 жыл бұрын
Try making the list now lol
@EggSandswag
@EggSandswag 2 жыл бұрын
#1 Volk #2 Charles #3 Usman
@utdjosh2964
@utdjosh2964 2 жыл бұрын
volk is by far the number 1 pfp 100% no one beats competition as convincingly or using as many different well rounded skills as him
@mattv8908
@mattv8908 2 жыл бұрын
Usman is great no doubting that but let’s dissect this a little bit. Two of his title defences have been against Masvidal who has 14 losses. The second fight with Colby IMO was a draw. He starched burns, which was impressive. So I give Usman credit but to call him the P4P best is not IMO justified. That title should be placed on Alex V, JJ since he is still fighting, or Izzy.
@benwoodin83
@benwoodin83 2 жыл бұрын
Geordie is such a casual Jesus Christ
@valvevac-systemchecker3773
@valvevac-systemchecker3773 2 жыл бұрын
I think the P4P ranking should be a bit more fluid tbh, Volk has had 2 fights already this year against Zombie and Max, whereas the last fight Usman had was late last year against Colby. Seeing as the wins Volk has gotten and the way he did warrants his position right now as the P4P number 1 (particularly the Max W, seeing as Max was ranked 8th in the P4P ranking too, which Colby wasn’t when he faced Usman). If Usman beats Leon, I think he should get his throne back as the P4P number 1, let alone if he does it in a convincing way.
@smgyro1476
@smgyro1476 2 жыл бұрын
Max was ranked 6 pfp, he got bumped down to 8 after the Volk loss in the trilogy
@valvevac-systemchecker3773
@valvevac-systemchecker3773 2 жыл бұрын
@@smgyro1476 oh thanks for the correction
@cookie7048
@cookie7048 2 жыл бұрын
as a huge olivera fan i am very nervous for the makachev fight. however if charles does pull it off, then surely he goes into the top 5 lighweights of all time? his submission record is ridiculous ( would love him to call out khabib if he wins )
@auranewaters9574
@auranewaters9574 2 жыл бұрын
Hes the best lightweight ever if he beats Islam. Best winstreak, basically 3 title defenses and best resumee
@leobidon3287
@leobidon3287 2 жыл бұрын
Cringed when he said welterweight is the most stacked division
@Kinglex-gg6vb
@Kinglex-gg6vb 2 жыл бұрын
This video was sooo good!! Good job guys!👏👏👏👏👏
@AzeemMMA
@AzeemMMA 2 жыл бұрын
If you know anything about the sport, you know that volkanovski is the number one pound for pound fighter in the world
@DmDaPDm
@DmDaPDm 2 жыл бұрын
Its opinion based, if you know anything about the sport, you know there is no actual way to determine the P4P. King.
@gged664
@gged664 2 жыл бұрын
@@DmDaPDm yes you can when one has more victories over several fighters ranked in the p4p rankings.
@wilkesmcdermid7906
@wilkesmcdermid7906 2 жыл бұрын
I think Shavkat Rakmonov is a threat to Usman too. Arguably the most skilled 170lb fighter.
@SJMMA
@SJMMA 2 жыл бұрын
Brian get the MMA Guru on the Pain Game. Probably the best non-ex fighter British mma guy on KZbin
@brettpeyton3586
@brettpeyton3586 2 жыл бұрын
Putting Masvidal into the elite frame, is the biggest joke I’ve heard.
@imanamerican8662
@imanamerican8662 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the common consensus now but there were lots of people who actually picked masvidal to beat Usman in both fights. I know that’s crazy but that’s just the case.
@LeDardeursPalace
@LeDardeursPalace 2 жыл бұрын
Well, not anymore. That's for sure.
@Garygarygary24
@Garygarygary24 2 жыл бұрын
The reason why Volk is clear is because he’s always shorter and has less reach than most of his opponents, but still manages to look better with his stand up. Usman wins over Jorge are giants meh wins, and both Colbert fights were close. Usman is very good of course, but I feel people are rating him higher than where he is at. Also, he doesn’t come close to GSP
@douglasbarry4105
@douglasbarry4105 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like people forget that a lot of people thought Max won the second fight vs Volkanovski
@Ev_box
@Ev_box 2 жыл бұрын
in hindsight he rly didn’t tho it was just max fans coping with him losing. first 2 rounds clearly went to max but after those 2 rounds volk pretty much found his rhythm and outstruck him in the last 3
@ItsameAlex
@ItsameAlex 2 жыл бұрын
volk is not number 1, they did NOT move him up a rank, you're all such casuals because I did not see one comment correcting True Geordie,
@benclarke465
@benclarke465 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see you both discuss the UFC and MMA in a way that's so unbiased and natural. No one has the answers but it's like having two mates chatting away at the pub. 🙌 More UFC content please!
@LilBerny7389
@LilBerny7389 2 жыл бұрын
Notable wins for Usman and Edwards Usman: Colby Covington 2x, Gilbert Burns, At the time champ Tyron woodley, RDA, Damian Maia, Sean Strickland, Leon Edwards, and Jorge Masvidal 2x but if ya don’t wanna count Jorge ok fine Edwards: Nate Diaz, Vicente Luque, RDA, Cowboy Cerrone, Gunnar Nelson and Bryan Barbaryna
@epjarvis1285
@epjarvis1285 2 жыл бұрын
Usman got turned to Snoozeman for real
@Fabi_87
@Fabi_87 2 жыл бұрын
How do you not rate Max Halloway at the same level as Colby? That is just crazy sure Colby is good but Max is one of the greatest featherweight champions. Colby might get there but right now it's not even close.
@ItsameAlex
@ItsameAlex 2 жыл бұрын
volk is not number 1, they did NOT move him up a rank, fake news.
@Fabi_87
@Fabi_87 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItsameAlex Yeah saw that very strange they said that.
@daquandavis5498
@daquandavis5498 2 жыл бұрын
Volk is easily P4P 1. 145 is deeper n 170 today (2018-22) is truly nothing compared to 2009-14. If u actually watch those fights u see guys like Condit (better striking) n Hendricks (WAY BETTER wrestling) alone were levels above Colby n Burns just as an example. 170 is overrated today. If guys like Masvidal n a post retired Askren can come in n make noise than that’s a big problem. It’s definitely looking up from here though with the younger talent making moves.
@JustSomeGuyWithAMustache886
@JustSomeGuyWithAMustache886 2 жыл бұрын
@Wildcard Volk is definitely P4P but you are correct, Olivera is coming for that spot. We will see how he goes.
@adamburgess7890
@adamburgess7890 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe what I'm hearing, featherweight is one of the strongest divisions in the UFC right now.
@java4656
@java4656 2 жыл бұрын
Volkanovski is P4P number one, without any doubt. Saying Max < Colby is one of the stupidest takes I've ever heard
@JSmooove98
@JSmooove98 2 жыл бұрын
You understand Colby would slaughter max if they fought?
@davon7100
@davon7100 2 жыл бұрын
@@JSmooove98 They are in different weight classes.
@JSmooove98
@JSmooove98 2 жыл бұрын
@@davon7100 Yes, and if they fought it would be at the same class dummy 😂
@ItsameAlex
@ItsameAlex 2 жыл бұрын
volk is not number 1, they did NOT move him up a rank, you're all such casuals because I did not see one comment correcting True Geordie, and your take on colby/holloway is not credible now since you've been exposed as a casual,
@imanamerican8662
@imanamerican8662 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s fair to think Volk is P4P but I wouldn’t say it’s “without a doubt”. There’s an argument to be made for Usman as well.
@ethancarr6031
@ethancarr6031 2 жыл бұрын
The point made around 9:40 is so bullshit, 135 is the most stacked division in MMA not just the UFC
@seany32
@seany32 2 жыл бұрын
Max Holloway not on the level of Colby 🤣🤣🤣
@elijahwilliams7277
@elijahwilliams7277 2 жыл бұрын
Colby is a great fighter but so overrated
@Lemonade4001
@Lemonade4001 2 жыл бұрын
I find it strange that geordie isn’t really up for this and rooting for Leon. I understand being realistic talking about the fight there’s nothing wrong with him thinking usman will win. But as a huge ufc from from the uk, to not be hyped that the chance that tonight a Brit could become a ufc world champ for the 2nd time EVER. Geordie obviously would prefer Leon to win but doesn’t seem too bothered at all.
@Rowlph8888
@Rowlph8888 2 жыл бұрын
Same here.maybe it's because he was focusing more on the Aj fight
@seanglynn5415
@seanglynn5415 2 жыл бұрын
No offence but this guy isn't an expert
@Voodoostones
@Voodoostones 2 жыл бұрын
No offense but Geordie seems to know hardly anything about MMA when talking about P4P and taking these fighters. Volk is deservedly ahead of Usman on the P4P list. He mentions Ortega giving Volk problems when the same can be said for Usman in just about every one of his fights besides Jorge. Colby was arguably winning their first fight before the KO happened in the fifth (which shouldn't have happened because he was landing blows to the back of the head), Burns wobbled him, and Colby wobbled him several times in their last fight. Also this other guy talking about not taking Charles seriously until the Gaethje win is also laughable. Charles was on a 10 fight win streak going into that fight against a guy who's record was 6-3 since entering the UFC and he's the true test? Please stop with this nonsense.
@Milesg9924
@Milesg9924 2 жыл бұрын
Volk is p4p right now...followed by Olives and its close. Usman is very good but he beat Jorge twice (so what) ..was losing to Colby in the first with the second a draw IMO.
@imanamerican8662
@imanamerican8662 2 жыл бұрын
The first fight was razor close with Colby but he won…? I love Charles but he’s been dropped in every defense so far. Usman has is also unbeaten in the UFC
@OwenTalks
@OwenTalks 2 жыл бұрын
Leon is bringing it home
@tegsingh5130
@tegsingh5130 2 жыл бұрын
disagree with geordies opinions on max: potentially the featherweight goat and had never been dropped. featherweight is also definitely stacked with zombie, ortega, yair, arnold allen. the dismissal of masvidals win against darren till and the way he was knocked out is a big one too, at that point he defo was a contender.
@auranewaters9574
@auranewaters9574 2 жыл бұрын
Max is number 3, Volk is number 2 and Aldo is number one
@jackiebartolo235
@jackiebartolo235 2 жыл бұрын
This guy views Colby higher than Max 😂😂😂 max loses title defeats the next 3 contenders to get another title shot…. Colby beat Woodley and wants another title shot.
@aston-corenbanner2708
@aston-corenbanner2708 2 жыл бұрын
Pound for pound who head shot dead
@decca7319
@decca7319 2 жыл бұрын
colby higher than max lmaooooooo 😭😭😭
@shadowbeatzz1262
@shadowbeatzz1262 2 жыл бұрын
Did he really just say Colby is better than Max holloway. What the fuck is going on
@jamiestevens3074
@jamiestevens3074 2 жыл бұрын
COLBY COVINGTON BETTER THAN MAX HOLLOWAY? Ffs Geordie this is why I don’t watch as often anymore. MMA guru is the right channel
@adamburgess7890
@adamburgess7890 2 жыл бұрын
Haha it's a comedy show his MMA coverage.
@adamburgess7890
@adamburgess7890 2 жыл бұрын
And his comment saying featherweight isn't stacked.
@karim123444
@karim123444 2 жыл бұрын
Burns didn’t bring the same energy against Usman what he brought against Khamzat
@BlackWolf-el3gu
@BlackWolf-el3gu 2 жыл бұрын
Leon has no ferocity yet he knocked marty out cold.
@donrog5924
@donrog5924 2 жыл бұрын
Too much waffle my brain hurts
@RobWitchdoctor
@RobWitchdoctor 2 жыл бұрын
Max Holloway has never been dropped in the UFC- ever!
@Joewiz01
@Joewiz01 2 жыл бұрын
Max not being on the level of colby is absolutely nuts
@davon7100
@davon7100 2 жыл бұрын
Max isnt on the level of Colby but he is levels ahead of Colby.
@Peningaplöggið
@Peningaplöggið 2 жыл бұрын
My guy… Colby Covington has pillows for hands and hasn’t even beat a single contender. No k/o’s. He’s got a gas tank, wrestling skills and td defense. Thats it. How is it impressive to defeat him with ease twice? Like am I missing something? Volkanovski on the other hand constantly murdering his opponents to the point that Max Holloway is basically considered to be on the level of Nick Diaz. Having a laugh mate
@davon7100
@davon7100 2 жыл бұрын
Covington did nearly KO Usman and nearly ended Jorge Masvidals career. But Volk is def ahead of Usman.
@imanamerican8662
@imanamerican8662 2 жыл бұрын
Colbys striking is better than people give him credit. He may not punch hard but he’s accurate and it is staking becomes enhanced so to the threat of his wrestling.
@josiplilic3384
@josiplilic3384 2 жыл бұрын
Go Leon! Go Costa! Go Usyk! Go my favorite fighter,the King of Rio,Jose Aldo jr🙏💪🐐💯💯
@lucashd8541
@lucashd8541 2 жыл бұрын
I know true geordie thinks people are just gatekeeping but rating colby higher than max is an actual outrageous take. like it’s one of the worst I’ve heard in a while.
@ItsameAlex
@ItsameAlex 2 жыл бұрын
volk is not number 1, they did NOT move him up a rank, you're all such casuals because I did not see one comment correcting True Geordie,
@lucashd8541
@lucashd8541 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItsameAlex what?
@ItsameAlex
@ItsameAlex 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucashd8541 true geordie said they switched usman and volk in the p4p rankings, they did not
@supersoldierx40
@supersoldierx40 2 жыл бұрын
Geordie fanboying hard here probably cuz he's attracted to the color black if u know what I mean Usman got pieced up by Colby who rocked him multiple times and technically should have been a draw and usman's last 4 fights are against two people journeyman masvidal who sucks and Colby while volk beat max twice.. Ortega and no it wasn't a close fight besides round 3 and demolished tkz as well as beating aldo before that which aged pretty well
@erichmyles4481
@erichmyles4481 2 жыл бұрын
Oliveira is my favorite fighter right now, so it's only fair that if Volk beats him, he becomes my p4p, as it stands I have usman. I think Colby is better than Holloway, I think masvidal is better than Ortega, and i think Burns is better than Zombie, and probably the other two as well lol Usman is p4p, and beating the newer version of Leon just adds to that. My prediction is a 3rd round KO of Edward's happens, but doesn't put Usman over Volk in the rankings, despite him already being higher imo.
@shanegreenhough6352
@shanegreenhough6352 2 жыл бұрын
I think the top of the WW division isn't as good as it's made out to be. Which sounds odd, but guys like Khamzat and Shavkat are really where it's at. Even though Burns took Khamzat to the line... I also think that Geordie overrates Colby a little bit. Covington's rep basically comes from having given Usman close fights, but that's his only particularly impressive accolade. So, it's pretty circular using him to justify rating Usman so highly. On the flip-side, I don't think that there are any nasty surprises waiting for Volkanovski in his division. He's just so far ahead of the rest of the field.
@berlin4103
@berlin4103 2 жыл бұрын
My bet is now or in near future shavkat beats all of them👍
@Alfredo7272_
@Alfredo7272_ 2 жыл бұрын
Holloway is miles ahead of Colby in terms of levels. Holloway is arguably the second greatest fighter at 145 of all time, he has 2 wins over Aldo, a close fight with Volk where people consider Max won for the most part, wins over Olivera and a prime Oretga. Colby's best wins are RDA where he did struggle, a washed Woodley and a washed Masvidal. Colby is a great fighter, but he's overrated due to him being a hard matchup for Usman. I love Colby btw, but claiming Colby is on a higher level than Holloway is daft.
@JSmooove98
@JSmooove98 2 жыл бұрын
You’re lost ain’t u buddy 😂 Colby mauls max at 155
@scottchegg8255
@scottchegg8255 2 жыл бұрын
@@JSmooove98 Mong.
@JSmooove98
@JSmooove98 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottchegg8255 English buddy
@scottchegg8255
@scottchegg8255 2 жыл бұрын
@@JSmooove98 You're a mong.
@kierantimmins5163
@kierantimmins5163 2 жыл бұрын
Leon's got this
@ibukunolokunbola1411
@ibukunolokunbola1411 2 жыл бұрын
UTC P4P number 1 is still Kamaru Usman. Get your facts right
@nealefrancis9094
@nealefrancis9094 2 жыл бұрын
Leon will do this
@supersoldierx40
@supersoldierx40 2 жыл бұрын
Burns dropped usman badly and lost because mentally he broke against usman after getting rocked Khamzat also didn't fight smart against burns and remember usman's last four fights are only 2 opponents : Colby and masvidal lol
@chadsmith6033
@chadsmith6033 2 жыл бұрын
Criticising Leon for not finishing Nate is a bit harsh as only two people have done it before
@thelastsnow6388
@thelastsnow6388 2 жыл бұрын
THis other guy does know his MMA tbf
@Joseph._odk
@Joseph._odk 2 жыл бұрын
Calling Masvidal a volume striker snd non technical. I don’t even know the other hosts name and it ain t worth knowing giving his knowledge
@Rowlph8888
@Rowlph8888 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's the stupidist thing I ever heard. But Geordie did correct him, by mentioning "the street style", sstraightaway, indicating that he thought, calling him a volume striker was stupid, Also. Gamebread, is lethargic at best. they are right that he didn't belong in a high-level fight
@marvntreyhd
@marvntreyhd 2 жыл бұрын
Usman is a beast. he needs a few more title fights for me to be the P4P
@disclaimer.imjokin
@disclaimer.imjokin 2 жыл бұрын
Weight bully.
@innit4983
@innit4983 2 жыл бұрын
@@disclaimer.imjokin everyones a weight bully
@serkomaani4346
@serkomaani4346 2 жыл бұрын
@@disclaimer.imjokin like khabib. Like jones. Like everyone of the best fighters ever. Dumbass comment
@Jackwoody938
@Jackwoody938 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this back it’s clear you didn’t want Edwards to win 😂😂
@born2football699
@born2football699 2 жыл бұрын
Geordie lost this debate it is volkanovski is a beast
@JoseSilva-vr3cp
@JoseSilva-vr3cp 2 жыл бұрын
Bro sounds like he only watched uf fights the last two years saying Colby is better that max who has numerous title defenses lmaoo
@MightyMags11
@MightyMags11 2 жыл бұрын
If Usman got through Leon and khamzat then went up to LHW and beat a few guys up there I’d consider him goat but you’ve gotta do summit special to be a goat these days, he’s still got a fair way to go.
@petar2253
@petar2253 2 жыл бұрын
You have to take title defenses out of the argument they dont matter in p4p rankings so just ask yourself the queastion if usman and vilk had the same body who would win in a fight and thats volk and i think charles and petr yan as well like usman is not the best fighter out there in terms of the best in the world idk he should be #4 or #5 on the p4p list hes not number 1
@justinfletcher7630
@justinfletcher7630 2 жыл бұрын
Can we all step back and give volk a little fuckin credit here for P4P.. I don't think you can definitively say that P4P one is better than the other
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