Dog Trainer Reviews: Winged Ultra Comfort Pad E-Collar Extensions

[@Sherralyn]

Thanks for the information. I've just begun conditioning with an ecollar(Boss educator). I have a Rottweiler with an extremely thick coat. After a day or two at 12, I was thinking i wasn't getting proper contact so switched to the ultra wing. There was a definite improvement. As I said we are just starting so we're still trying to find our groove.

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

I'm glad the video was helpful! Take your time when trying to find a working level. It is much better to operate at too low of a level for a few days than it is too operate at too high of a level. Were you able to drop to a lower level when you put the Comfort Pad on?

[@samjack3489]

Can i ask does these contact points fit the dogtra arc 1200s

[@MarkoRussellUSA]

I SO agree with you on this , I automatically upgrade all of my clients E collars to these from our Day and Board and Training programs. I hate the base set up

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

I love to hear that Marko!!! The contact points out of the box are almost always tough to use (unless a dog has super short hair). We don't like how snug a collar has to fit to get good contact with the stock setup so we definitely recommend these a lot!

[@dominicginleyhine3964]

I should say also I have been looking for advice on the wings all day and your video was absolutely ace!! Thank you 👌

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

Thanks for the kind words Dominic! I'm glad it was helpful! We are working hard to create a good selection of content to help people. If you haven't subscribed definitely do. We have a lot of cool videos in the works!

[@utahk9academy810]

Great video!

[@ericdowney6374]

Thanks for making this complete, articulate, well filmed and fun video. I sub’d and ordered one right away! Problem solved, so now I can check out some more of your content.

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

Glad it helped!

[@agnesyll]

Thank you for this information! The wings just looked intimidating, and I wasn't sure. I'm going to get a comfort pad with wings right now. I'm currently using the regular titanium tips, and my dog was getting pressure sores despite frequent collar rotations. We always had to part her fur before we put on her collar and made sure it was tight. Otherwise, we would lose contact very quickly. I'm also curious about how it changes the working level as well. I'm using a dogtra 280c, and the working level is typically 4.

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

Morning Agnes! The Comfort Pad definitely looks intimidating when you see it online, but I think you will be really happy with it. Your dog will stop getting pressure sores and you won't have to worry about parting her fur anymore. If you are currently at a 4, I would start at a 1 in a fenced in area and see how she responds. Since your working level is already so low you might not see much of a change but starting lower is definitely a good idea. Have fun training!!!

[@agnesyll]

@Suburban K9 Dog Training I imagine I'd still have to part the fur for the middle 4 prongs to make proper contact but I'll see how it goes.

[@LilBastosFyass]

I actually just commented on the other video you did about the dogtra titanium nodes and I’m thankful for you bc I couldn’t find this Info anywhere. I’ve got a shepherd/husky who’s coat is like a lions and getting consistent contact is what I need but didn’t think the rounded nodes would do the trick so thank you.

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

Hey! I just replied to your other comment. These products are kinda confusing since they look almost exactly alike and are pretty much always interchangeable between brands. I think you will be happy with either and you will be amazed how much better the contact will be. Make sure to turn the stim level down when you first use them. We often see a dramatic drop is warranted because of better contact.

[@LilBastosFyass]

@@SuburbanK9DogTraining yes thank for you the info! I’m very familiar with the collar and the training but am re conditioning my dog to the sensation bc she’s a Velcro type dog, very confident but always wants to be near me and I was sure that she wasnt learning the sensation bc she always responds to my verbal cues but after 2 weeks of conditioning multiple times a day she wouldn’t respond to the e collar no verbal cue even tho I’ve done it properly before so i imagine bc of her crazy long hair the contacts aren’t good enough, this is exactly what I’m looking for

[@Hbryry]

So which comfort pad did you end up going with? I have a Klee Kai with husky like coat as well

[@LilBastosFyass]

@@Hbryry I went with the winged tips, and it definitely works. I can advise you to separate your dogs fur with your fingers and find the skin, and then line up the winged tips with the exposed skin and make sure it’s tight enough that it doesn’t slip off position but obviously not tight enough to hurt your pup

[@Hbryry]

@@LilBastosFyass I do that. I rotate every 4 hours and still gets pressure sores

[@king.1713]

Hey, quick question but how do you charge the e-collar with these contacts. I have the dogtra arc and the new contacts seem to block the charging port.

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

Great question! You can charge the Arc with the Wingtips but you have to kinda bend the wingtip slightly to get the charger in. We have done this for years and haven't had an issue with the wingtip breaking.

[@foodlibertine1011]

Thanks for the informative video. This is what I have been looking for. My favourite e-collar is also 280C from Dogtra. I am wondering if the Winged Ultra Comfort Pad is also compatiable with Dogtra 280C. Looking forward to your comment. Thank you :)

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

Yes! We have used it with the 280c with great results. I think you will love the Comfort Pad if you get it.

[@AW-yv9sq]

I just got these and I can’t see how these are more comfortable. I tried it and it’s more uncomfortable imo. The wings dig in. I think this needs to be tighter so it does not rotate around the neck. The receiver wants to also rotate away from the neck due to the small contact points.

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

Hey AW! Sorry to hear it that! We love the Winged Ultra Comfort and have never had an issue with it. They didn't accidently send you the Short Hair or Long Hair version did they? Those have more of a normal contact point compared to the true Winged version. If they sent you the right one it shouldn't have to be super tight to get a good fit. What kind of dog do you have?

[@szhang8888]

Thanks for making this video, this is super helpful. I have a Labradoodle about 37lbs and I normally like to keep his hair short, do you still recommend that I use this wing extension? Also, I’m wondering is it safe for my dog to play with other dogs while waring this? As the way dogs play with each other can be quite rough, will this hurt him during rough playing by having the wings or the contact points digging into his neck? Thanks!

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

We really like the extensions even with shorter hair. Labradoodles usually have such thick hair that even when it is short the e collar can have trouble making good contact without extensions. I wouldn't worry about the e collar digging into his neck during play. My bigger worry would be another dog getting his paw stuck inside the collar and possibly getting hurt. If the other dogs are pawing at him a lot I would keep a very close eye on them. Let us know if you have any more questions!

[@szhang8888]

@@SuburbanK9DogTraining thank you so much for your reply! Really appreciated

[@szhang8888]

@@SuburbanK9DogTraining just saw that dogtra also has a similar product that contains extra contact points on the wings, which one would you recommend more?

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

We have another video on our Product Review playlist comparing both of these two products. Overall, they are very similar and seem pretty much the same. I love the Dogtra brand but I have used the Winged Tips Comfort Pad for a long time and never had an issue. I think you would really like either one.

[@Drainingtheswamp2022]

I agree- the dogtra wings are crap

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

Have you used the Dogtra wings or just the standard ones that come with the collar?

[@Cisco_Budge]

I have a question, if you could help. I have the option of the one you reviewed and the four prong comfort pad. I have an American Pit Bull Terrier, and her fur is very short and light, especially around the neck and ear area. I currently have the short titanium posts. To get a good connection, I have the collar super tight. She has a big muscular neck so having it as tight as I do along with the two prongs, it's easy to understand that she's having some skin problems. Do you have a recommendation as to which of the two collar extensions would work best? Thank you

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

Hey Dean! I think either will work well. The 4 prong short hair comfort pad is great and is made for short hair dogs like yours but I have seen a lot of pits and Dobermans with the Wing Tip Ultra Comfort and they do well. Since you are dealing with skin irritation I would probably do the one shown in the video so you can put the collar on less snugly. Let us know how it works out!

[@marielotusnaturopathe7485]

Hi! I just bought the confort pad for my thin hair and neck GSP. I was finding the other one too long for his small neck. Now I found that I have to tight alot his collar to make sure the 4 contacts touch his skin but I wounder if I should add wings or it is more for long hair? i don't like the way I need to tight his collar

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

I really like the wings for exactly that reason! We use them often on short haired dogs and they work well. You will be able to leave the collar much looser than with the short contact points.

[@dominicginleyhine3964]

What size would you recommend for a Malinois? I have a mini educator - I used the 3/4 contact points but I think because his coat is so thick we were unable to establish a consistent connection. I feel like his coat is thick enough but perhaps not long enough for the size of the wings?

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

Hey Dominic! I would use the long hair version. Even though his hair isn't long, when it is thick the long hair wing tip makes a world of difference. We have used them on a lot of Malinois over the years and always like them. You should be able to get good contact and not have to tighten the collar so much!

[@josecastelar2095]

Will this work with the FE560 “The Fob” Educator?

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

That's a good question! I have never used the FE560 so I can't say with certainty. The receiver appears to be the same dimensions as their other collars so my guess is it will work but I don't know for sure.

[@agnesyll]

I see dogtra also has their own titanium tipped winged comfort pads now. How do those compare to the brand you're using?

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

Hi Agnes! We always use the comfort pad in this video because it works so well. That being said, I have no direct experience with the Dogtra unit. I love Dogtra, so I would assume its a great product. Based on the construction my guess is that it doesn't make as good of contact as the one in this video but I am sure it is WAY better than the standard contact points. If you get the Dogtra unit please let us know what you think!

[@agnesyll]

@@SuburbanK9DogTraining I'll let you know how it goes. Though it sounds like this would be a great video opportunity. I don't see any videos on youtube comparing them.

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

@@agnesyll I love that idea! I am ordering the Dogtra unit now and we will do a side by side comparison. We have a group off leash training day scheduled next Monday so we will try them out then!

[@agnesyll]

Ok, I need some help. I ended up purchasing the same winged comfort pad as the one on your video for my long coat shepherd. I tried it out today but I just don't quite understand if I'm actually using it properly. I notice the 2 wings do make contact but none of the middle 4 prongs touch the neck. Is that normal?

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

Hi Agnes! You got those fast! Only the two wings need to make contact, not the middle prongs. The wings generally slip between the fur very easily and deliver great contact. Make sure to turn the stim level down when you first use it because generally the contact is much better than what you were getting before. Let us know how it goes!!!

[@agnesyll]

@Suburban K9 Dog Training Thank you! I wasn't too sure at first, but I'm definitely sure I'm using it correctly now. I was able to turn it down from working level 4 to a 1 or 2 in our usual field. The 4 even seemed too aversive.

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

@@agnesyll That's great! I'm glad you were able to lower the stim level. I am sure your pup will be happy not having to have the collar on so tight anymore! Also, we ordered the Dogtra product you mentioned and we will be testing it out soon! If you subscribe to the channel it should notify you when the next video comes out.

[@agnesyll]

@@SuburbanK9DogTraining omg I am so excited for that video! Thanks for taking my video suggestion seriously.

[@forrestprivett715]

Do you guys do board and train

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

We do! Check out www.suburban-k9.com and you can get an instant quote. The board and train is a really good service, but we often prefer doing in home training with our clients so that they are part of the entire process. We'd love to help you!

[@andreabelt10]

Would you recommend this over the version over the dogtra version?

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

Hey Andrea! Funny you should ask! We have used this product for years and have loved it so much that we have never tried out the Dogtra unit. That being said, someone asked this same question a few days ago so we ordered a Dogtra unit and got it in the mail today. We are going to train with both of them on Monday and film a video detailing our thoughts. If you haven't subscribed to the channel please do and you will be notified when the new video comes out!

[@andreabelt10]

@@SuburbanK9DogTraining thanks for answering. Already subscribed 😉 Going to wait to buy then! I’m interested in this for my long thick hair shepherd! Also which size is better? Both brands have 2 different sizes. Appreciate the help🙏🏼

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

@@andreabelt10 Morning! For the product in this video we use the Long Hair Winged Ultra Comfort which is model number CPAD-011. That does well on all the standard size e collars we have put it on. From talking to clients I have heard that the Dogtra a little more finicky on sizing with certain collars. What collar do you have?

[@andreabelt10]

@@SuburbanK9DogTraining morning! I have the dogtra arc hands-free

[@SuburbanK9DogTraining]

@@andreabelt10 The Arc is by far our favorite collar! If you go with the Winged Ultra Comfort Pad definitely use the CPAD-011. If you get the Dogtra go with a large. According to Dogtra the regular size is not recommended for use with the Arc. Here is a link to the Dogtra one we are working with tomorrow: amzn.to/45VAVfT