Dogfighting A Real Rafale Pilot Mig-29 Fulcrum Vs Mirage 2000C | DCS | ATÉ.

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[@SledgeHammer43]

Come on you are better with the Tomcat than you are with the Mig 29.

[@baatarmunh]

Hi Growling Sidewinder, can I BFM with you? if so how do I go about it? I am a real airline pilot with acrobatic experience and DCS experience.

[@itaiperes9635]

Can someone tell me how i can watch a replay from different camera angle like he doing ? when i watch a replay i can only see the exact original camera view (the F1-F10 keys do nothing) i am using DCS 2.55

[@songsarkro7233]

I have almost watch all ur videos.. from India. My town doesn't have an airbase but the sky above my town is filled with fighter planes every day..and theres a loud sound blast every day from above shaking the ground... Why?

[@AFNBarbosa]

Man, that Mirage pilot was really aggressive, now that felt like a real dogfight

[@scowler7200]

Yeah, that was scary.

[@SupaMan2122]

He’s a real pilot

[@turcenoarthurjamil4364]

dude he's a real lofe fighter pilot, maybe its their instinct to just be agressive because in real life you don't really have a 2nd chance, its life or death.

[@frankbittner6947]

Schwachsinn! der Spieler der die Mig geflogen hatt, hatt keine Ahnung, wie man im Nahkampf mit einer Mig steuer! Die Mig s sind für den Nahkampf ausgelegt, u. nicht wie die US-Falter für den Fernkampf.

[@Null24]

@@frankbittner6947 let's see you do it then

[@vivekkaushik9508]

That Indiana Jones reference was hilarious. It's shows GS is humble.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thanks buddy I try to stay humble sometimes it’s nice to get a reminder like fighting a guy like ate.

[@MateusVarandas_]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Funny enough, in that scene Indiana was supposed to actually fight the swordsman, but Harrison Ford wasn't feeling good at the time, so they let him just shoot lmao

[@vivekkaushik9508]

@@MateusVarandas_ lol

[@TheMelbournelad]

Mateus Varandas I love that story. I heard it was something like “Delhi belly” from the local food. Apparently it didn’t agree with him.

[@jdmozee12]

🤣

[@dstavs]

Dogfight between GS and Ate?! - clicks “like” even before watching -

[@raakeshsingh7852]

Same buddy

[@burtpilon1735]

I always do with this guy... he’s the best.

[@lonniebailey4989]

Same here. I started watching Até after seeing his engagements against Growling Sidewinder.

[@ryzentie7646]

I thought it was just me that does that..

[@timsullivan4566]

How fortunate for this channel to have such a relationship with so valuable a resource as Ate - and how lucky we all are that he is so generous in sharing his expertise. Good fight and GREAT talk. Thanks!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thanks Tim glad you enjoyed man.

[@rickmasseur2008]

GS, the post-interviews with Ate are getting better and better. I like how you get him engaged in conversation around current events. It's like watching baseball and having a former player commentating - it gives the viewers an inside look at what goes on behind the scenes and the mindset in place during certain scenarios. Well done, brother!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you rick I’m glad you enjoy the videos makes it worth making just knowing people like you are out there enjoying them. Thank u as always for ur support brother. All the best.

[@zcomme]

if you like that you should go to ATE's channel, ther are lot more vids in English version too ;)

[@joelangley7974]

Your Indians jones comparison was spot on 😂😂

[@CoolAnimals69]

This is the best DCS channel on KZbin (Change My Mind)

[@SteviePonder123]

GrIM rEaPeRS

[@jeanyonsei2318]

Grim Reapers bombing competition is fun too.

[@farhaanalam8214]

@@SteviePonder123 SuperCapTV

[@rickmasseur2008]

Comparing Grim Reapers to Growling Sidewinder is like comparing Ace Combat to DCS. Half of what the Reapers do is for shits and giggles, or just to see if something can be done - entertainment. Don't get me wrong, those guys have me laughing a lot, and their vids are decent. But IMO GS brings a whole different level to his vids.

[@sebastiaomendonca1477]

Ralfidude is pretty good too

[@sanjayjaiswal1531]

I almost spat my drink out when I saw that Indiana Jones meme Man you are humble and funny at the same time Ate is person of principle and he is helping a lot to build the interest of youth in combat aviation including me Thank you GS and ATE Stay blessed and happy always BTW congrats on 100k subs

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you brother very kind of you grateful to have subs like you in my corner.

[@sanjayjaiswal1531]

@@GrowlingSidewinder It's my pleasure dear to be with you and learn I was watching the meme again and again it's lit man :)

[@brunoks6951]

5:05 Dude, I think Até baited you hard. He knew that he can hit you eventually with the guns, but when you tried the vertical, he was saving the missile for that moment. Amazing as always. "Someone please take that pointy triangle away from my six!!" - GS

[@JorgeOrtizIII]

I must say, I don't have the game but your content is amazing. Having an actual fighter pilot doing combat maneuvers will work wonders for growing the community here, and his input on actual incidents (like the intercept) really helps with context and the "ground truth" on that matter. Keep up the great work!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you very much man I appreciate the support.

[@adamswift3197]

Last time I was this early Ate was still in the French Air Force

[@hamiltonshangar]

Lol

[@didierthesuperstar]

He never was though, he flew the Navy Rafale!

[@CaptainDangeax]

Actually the French navy

[@davidsapir3764]

Man are these videos addicting, especially on a big screen. They're so visually stunning and action packed, and it's so cool the way GS explains and breaks everything down in real time. And these videos featuring ATE' are epic.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Glad you’re enjoying man thank u for watching

[@madfury3179]

You should make a call out for any Russian pilots that want to engage in a virtual dogfight.

[@Galinjins]

How much dogfight have you made with ate? Growling Sidewinder : YES

[@MalfosRanger]

"I know what you're thinking. 'Did he fire six shots or only five?' Well to tell you the truth I kind of lost track myself in all this exci- No, just kidding." -Ate, round one.

[@DrRyan82994]

The mig 29’s hud that refreshes with your display is a pretty good advantage lol. The mirage gunsight feels like 20hz.

[@HauteGameFR]

The worst part is that the real one is way more fluid, but Razbam decided to reduce drasticly the frequence of the 2000's hud (particulary the gun snake) because of performance issues.. :/

[@ashaide]

I love the psych warfare Ate does on you. Head on fights with guns blazing in your face? That impacts your thinking if you're not used to such aggression. And even if you were, your brain can't help but worry and that's going to affect your performance. And that gunning you while still having a spare missile. Nice one.

[@djviperx]

Man, you can't imagine how much I'm learning and how much I'm enjoying seeing this dogfights with this 2 great legends!!! ATE is such a cool guy!

[@landonstreamsnipez2531]

Fun fact about that Indiana Jones scene Harrison ford was feeling sick when they filmed it and originally was not going to just shoot him but he did that and the director liked it.

[@level30boss27]

You should do a tournament with ATÉ. In the mirage vs you in every other plane .

[@HuyV]

Would be interesting to see how quickly Ate can adapt to other planes too. As in him trtying other planes I mean

[@alje311]

It'd be hilarious if ATE even smokes GS in the A-10 haha

[@lonniebailey4989]

@@alje311 Can't hear you over the BRRRRRRRRRTTTTTT!!!

[@Youeatbabies]

But not the F22 Or the SU57 because he’d win anyway. So let’s not mind the 2 aircraft for once

[@chrislinn64]

That moment you realize...”I forgot he had one more missile, man” (chuckles).

[@michaelbotkin7671]

Love seeing Ate on the channel. He always has great information and makes for great air combat. You both rock!

[@Raz.C]

re - 6:10 GS's attempt to evade Até reminded GS of the Sword vs Gun fight in Indiana Jones - Raiders movie. I think it also reminded me of a Firefly episode called The Message. Wash, the pilot of Serenity, is trying to evade some Federal Alliance Marshalls and so he takes a DANGEROUS, winding and torturous route through some mountain valleys. He expects that his pursuers will follow him through the valley and that they'll give up if it gets too dangerous for them. Instead, the pursuers don't bother following Serenity into the valley. They are still following Serenity, but they're doing it from 2,000 feet above them, outside the valleys that Serenity is insanely flying through. Anyway, 6:10 here reminded me of that scene from Firefly. At 6:10 GS is dancing around, trying to be evasive, expecting that he's making himself more difficult to hit. In reality, Até is sitting comfortably behind him, watching him do this crazy, funny stuff. Sure, the encounter here ends with a missile being sent to GS, whereas the Firefly scene ends with Serenity surrendering, but it's not the ending that's similar, it's the bit where a highly competent pilot does his best to evade pursuit, only to find that nothing he did had any effect on the pursuit and he may as well have just been flying in a straight line...

[@alwayzurboy]

Two years and i still come back to watch your Ate dog fights. They were some of your best videos.

[@blackandyellow87]

Awesome having Ate` on the channel, hopefully this becomes a regular thing.

[@Dulakx]

I didnt thought that your content could still improve. This video prove me wrong. Thrilling, informative and funny.

[@shadowkercaine9694]

Love the new intro GS. I learn so much from your videos and it helps me out a lot in my dogfights etc. Keep up the good work!

[@sauron9759]

It's so cool to see how far you've grown from your videos while staying true to yourself. Genuinely wishing you nothing but success. You'll never know how much I appreciate your content, it was genuinely something I'd look forward to after coming home. Thanks for being awesome G.S.

[@trav1971]

Another awesome video. Having Ate give his input is priceless. Any other pros coming to this channel 🙏?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

If I find any willing I will deff bring them on

[@andrewcena]

@@GrowlingSidewinder I know you probably get this a lot but your knowledge of ACM is pretty in-depth it seems and in line with tactics that I've heard former pilots discuss on podcasts etc. Can you point me to some good resources for beginners to learn more about ACM?

[@andrewcharlton4053]

@@andrewcena plenty of manuals from air forces out there if you look on the Internet. Most non BVR stuff is open source.

[@dylanshannon5875]

these fights with ATÉ are amazing and very thrilling i love them so much

[@williamgorham7339]

ATE! ATE! Keep the dogfights coming! You both seem to be one of the most interesting dogfights to watch in DCS especially when ATE does stuff that has you saying “I don’t even know what he did there” “look at that!” In the TACView. Edit: The Indiana Jones reference was priceless!

[@lonew0lfclaw859]

Loved the new intro. Its really cool. Plus that first dogfight and its end and the apt comparison with that scene from indiana jones was gold man.. Its great watching these fox 2 dogfights between you and Ate'. Awesome stuff. Keep it up bro.

[@duncanstevens2631]

I love these videos with ATE!! Keep them coming!

[@adbell3364]

Man! I never get tired of these! And in Ate', you have a very worthy opponent.

[@jonpirovsky]

I'm really impressed. I'm not used to seeing you on the ropes like that, but Ate is incredible...

[@rbnblus4]

Holy crap that intro made me jump out of my seat. In a good way though! Overall I've enjoyed this format of videos you and ATÉ have been collaborating to make. It's a great mix of your well narrated DCS gameplay with a follow up interview/discussion about various aviation stories. It really works well. Thanks for this.

[@navinsawesomeanddivineacco4221]

I love your videos with Ate, it feels amaxing to watch

[@vidhansingh8670]

You are like the best game pilot I've ever seen on youtube and I learned how to do the pugachevs cobra maneuver in some another game by watching your videos I understood the concept and try to do it and I was successful so thanks teacher lmao

[@gijoe775th6]

Great video with ATE, hope he does a D-Brief of this video like he did with the other one. Keep up the great work guys.

[@kasperwittrup1288]

Another reason for the whole "flex muscles" is that you fly towards the other country's airspace and record how long response times they have. The Russians does that all the time along the baltic countries, to test how long our scramble times are.

[@eggrevolver]

@@gort8203 totally agree. Even though I'm russian, I don't see any reason of that sort of maneuvers. Pretty sure (at least, I hope) the pilots are warned not to do silly things again wherever the interception takes place. I don't watch TV, hence do not know much about the official russian point of view except "it happened somewhere above the Baltic Sea", but by my opinion behaviour like this may only be justified only in case those bombers were really-really close, were silent and were going straight to the border ignoring everything.

[@ayrnovem9028]

Let's look a bit deeper into relation between Russian and NATO airforces. Here is a quick sample of what it generally looks like for Russians to work in the same airspace with NATO "partners" (Syria). "Don't shoot them with combat weapons - that's the rule both sides will stick to. Aside from that, "partners" will make your combat mission, given that they don't like what you are doing, as uncomfortable as possible by any means. There's a million ways to do that. The most typical way is jamming your communications and navigation. Jamming is the most "soft" and "polite" of these. They can cross your combat course at minimum intervals and distances, knocking you off the route with engine stream. They can dump fuel on you, they can bombard you with flares. They can lock you with all they have and simulate attacks, turning away at the last moment. Can, on your altitude, run a couple drones in your face. And as soon as the radar-warning station is on, it will keep yelling at you all the time, no avoiding that." Hence, I am at no surprise that Russians wanted that B-52 pilots to feel certain mild discomfort.

[@mydlear4238]

Ayr Novem pretty interesting, never seen that this way. Can you link the source ?

[@VisibilityFoggy]

@@ayrnovem9028 - The issue, however, is that the planes could have crashed had the B-52 pilot accelerated or moved even slightly. Then you'd have a downed B-52 but also a downed Su-27. That benefits no one and really has the risk of escalating things. Who's to say an American F-22 pilot, seeking revenge, wouldn't do the same to a Tu-95 flying near Alaska? Practicing professional intercepts is a good way to maintain readiness and stability for both sides.

[@ayrnovem9028]

​@@VisibilityFoggy 1) Actually their relative speed is quite low, so a collision would not 100% result in a crash. Still pretty dangerous, of course. 2) You and Ate are right about professional intercepts. But the issue is that since USAF has chosen to play rough in Syria, Russians have no reason to stay polite over Black Sea.

[@verfugbarkite]

Kudos to you taking on a pilot. He's so aggressive.

[@SGTJackMorgan]

Love seeing your fights with Ate as well as getting his take on the B-52 intercept that happened recently. In the future perhaps you could get this awesome pilot into a 1v1 in a Warbird. Keep up the great work.

[@DarkOperationman]

That comparing with indiana jones making me laugh even harder than what already happened 🤣

[@tepes22b]

He's like a pit bull who won't let go of the rope. I love these videos with you two!

[@nofearsheenhere]

This is the most intense visual range combat I have ever seen in DCS. Boost those pilot respirator sounds and slap on some tense music in there and you got a brilliant short film

[@man_vs_life]

Very interesting, both the dogfighting and the discussion.

[@OmerMazaltarim]

I just love those memes drooped out of nowhere in your videos, if there's one way to learn something is with humor. Awesome video, I really like seeing you dogfighting with the 29. I hope to see some more videos of WVRs but with the F-15 and the F-14, knowing those old lady's don't have any fancy high-off-boresight shooting capability or a good nose authority at low speeds.

[@akmorf6609]

You made me laugh with the Indiana Jones scene comparison. That was funny

[@avramnovorra]

I'm digging your battles against Ate dude! Looking forward to you matching up against him again soon 😁👌

[@henrymann8122]

Wow! Growler, good stuff here. Thank you

[@Skimmer767]

I love the dogfights with ATÉ keep up the good work!

[@kylestickley8096]

I'm so glad you brought up indiana jones when you did that jink. I thought the same thing! Lol

[@nyambe]

This is so good!! You both are. ATE is great!

[@deadshot4245]

You deserve a lot more subs bud killing it on these videos I’m just now learning dcs properly with both the fa-18 and F-14

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thank you man, really appreciate that.

[@deadshot4245]

For sure was in the server last night with you splashing bandits. Look forward to flying with you or one day dogfighting you as well as I get more proficient with the jets

[@icecold9511]

So much for fox-2 being over quickly. Just watched yesterday the gun battle Oh, thanks to that gun battle, I finally learned what the 18 corner speed is. Wouldn't believe how closely guarded that secret seems to be. And your tutorials were great. Helped figure out a bunch of tasks the in game tutorial didn't cover.

[@ASJC27]

Its all aspect high off bore sight fox 2 fights that end very quickly, not legacy fox 2 like in this video.

[@fredericcadillac1414]

I always love your videos with Até!

[@louislochner5713]

Such great content - Thanks Até 🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@jc3132]

Thank you for the great video and discussion, really appreciate the insight by a real fighter pilot.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

glad you enjoyed JC thank you for watching

[@justinsublett5880]

Love, love, love having a real fighter pilot comment on this stuff.

[@maddoxhill1369]

yooo that new intro looked dope!!

[@bclarg3248]

I really enjoyed Ate's commentary on that international incident.

[@Y.M...]

Good on you for taking things easy and having fun. The Indiana Jones comparison is hilarious. Great fights! Thanks for these videos. Thanks to Até too!

[@carltanner9065]

I'd like to see the designers model a rafale, just so Ate can get a chance to fly one in the game. That would be scary!!!!

[@UkraineStar77]

That Indiana Jones meme haha. Great vid, bud!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Loool thanks buddy

[@konfuzon4270]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Funny I thought about exactly the same thing moments before you mentionned that Indiana Jones scene. Awsome content quality as usual. Keep it that way!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

@@konfuzon4270 lol thanks buddy much appreciated.

[@GorrilazWarfare]

gonna pre-emptively like this when I see ate in the title

[@therocinante3443]

I learned more about dogfighting watching the fights with Até than I even knew I didn't know.

[@stevenborgogna]

Ate is one of your best adversaries.

[@nickgrey582]

Very interesting video. Many thanks GS and Ate. Kind regards Nick

[@rumdonkey7826]

I love this stuff with Ate! Hope you can collab with Mover on something too, then you'd have two fighter pilot guests!

[@cambellschunky704]

@5:49 the first time I saw this I says to myself, 'sidewinder is all over the place and Ate just kinda shifted his nose. Then you come with the Indiana Jones ref. good stuff man.

[@CNCTEMATIC]

Great video. Dude I cracked up when you showed the Indiana Jones cut.

[@craiggallagher4461]

That was so weird, at 6:02 as you’re talking about your fancy snap roll jink while he’s just sitting there watching it and then fires his Fox2 I had the thought it reminded me of the Indiana Jones scene which you then literally say the exact same thing not moments later 😂

[@BadAtWarThunder2006]

Cool new intro dude! Great vid I’m still stuck playing gunship 3

[@frankdrebin1023]

Thanks, Ate~. Awesome insight.

[@markusdresden6640]

Man i LOVE the bass from rocket hit on replays........

[@krostouin]

I love those turns at 7 or 9G during a minute. Good tactic :D

[@MrShoryuken1]

These videos with Até are fantastic.

[@Jag683]

Man I love your videos, you inspired me to try and fly even though I don’t have a hotas

[@dmutant2635]

Excellent episode. Ate' is a hoot.

[@ambravirlebreton]

Great to see ATÉ again!

[@minimummoimeme9774]

lol _ i ve seen video from both sides ^^ and i love that moment when you say "i will need luck" when in the same time ATE is saying "raah he is too fast i cant reach him" ^^ morale is important for sure ^^

[@jackreacher007]

Oh man you cracked me up with that indiana jones reference!!! Thanks so much for laugh ^^

[@kingskid6705]

The new intro is lit.

[@mitchjames9350]

The Mig29, Su29 and there variants are such beautiful planes.

[@storsenderchannel]

Nice fight with the MigG29, it's one of few the modern era jets in DCS that needs full hands-on attention for control input(which is really rewarding when winning a dogfight). Wish you opened the little control input window to show your rudder input on the 29 at low energy states. Also with managing energy in the MiG29, be aware of the faster energy bleed when maneuvering. The front leading edge flaps only fully lower and stays fully deflected even if you ease on stick pressure. Makes for a really draggy configuration, but the unloaded acceleration makes up for that :)

[@marcoscasado8698]

New on town! Love your vids

[@Luis-hm5rm]

hollyyi love these videos man keep it up :D

[@testboga5991]

I bought his book, can recommend!

[@sekured9950]

Oh damn! New intro! I love it!

[@anaesthesia3571]

Loved the intro 🔥🔥🔥

[@01ahmadhachem77]

You should do more dogfights with the su-27, they are a bit rare compared to others on your channel, just a recommendation :))))))))

[@lonniebailey4989]

I like the new intro. ATÉ IS BACK!!!

[@blueberrypie1296]

I was thinking about that scene from Indiana Jones like 5 seconds before you mentioned it! 🤣

[@itdepends8103]

Intro was too goood !!

[@ericblankenship8299]

X-WING yeah it was

[@jeanyonsei2318]

"ATÉ" is a portuguese word that means "See you". Makes sense... LOL

[@mindtraveller100]

Yes.

[@archosauropre-historico8708]

I can conffirm

[@mickagwada3591]

Nice vidéo dude from an ate sub !!

[@chrissinclair8705]

Thank very much for service. I was in Armour so I'm extra dumb. :-) Didn't want to walk. God bless you all.

[@burtpilon1735]

I just recently commented on a older mig29 video where you did a slow rudder spin and got a insane fox2 kill... hoping you try it are. Now back to the video. This is gonna be good !

[@duncanstevens2631]

The new intro is great!

[@BlameeeJay]

Ah yes a new intro🔥