Dogfighting BUT Every 5 Seconds Our Engines Overheat! [Trailmakers]

[@theomorsdorf5897]

Yzuei has been deadly lately ever since he stopped caring so much about looks

[@CubeSpot]

And the opposite is happening for scrap man

[@leroyjenkinsreturns]

​@@CubeSpotoh how the turns have tabled

[@xenomorphisisdilage472]

He plays like a true coward, tbh. Stays away for the most part, and intentionally makes his builds small and fast for that purpose.

[@InfernofoxYT]

@@leroyjenkinsreturns how the tables have turned

[@santubhattacharyya2564]

​@@xenomorphisisdilage472 true

[@zsolt-davidkovacs1732]

I think a ship battle using turrets with the bomb-launching-mechanism as weapons would be very interesting, because of the ballistic trajectory of the projectiles

[@kacperkonieczny7333]

And also because they explode on water

[@merilynnshark6144]

This needs to happen now, almost like Battleship in trailmakers, or similar to the mortar battle he had

[@sy_null]

@@merilynnshark6144Exactly, I've been suggesting that for awhile now lol

[@leekt2228]

props to the editor this time around, when they were introducing their planes, the music changed appropriately, the little sound effects when important moments happen, and etc

[@Rocketcraft7167]

Scrapman edits his own videos and makes his own music

[@haihuynh8772]

"Today we will be limiting our means of propulsion" Proceeds to make a big and heavy creation. "I want more agility" Proceeds to make a slow as hell lumbering pal. Never change.

[@xMugen6]

I mean, his creation due to all that redundancy led to his final win in so I don’t see any negatives here lol

[@madbull4666]

​@@xMugen6to be fair if the other two were as good fliers as scrapman it would have been far closer.

[@qdaniele97]

Agility does not equal speed. Beside he probably meant manuvrability

[@haihuynh8772]

@@qdaniele97 Agility means being able to change direction quickly and not like Scrap's plane was able to do that either.

[@bbittercoffee]

5 rockets and a crash is what was needed to defeat JB goddamn, he really took some notes from Scrapman's book of "How to outlive your enemies by being tanky" Still, the master of tankiness wins out, actually impressive work Scrapman

[@projectdeveloper9311]

Not only tankiness, but actually outmaneuvering the enemy by sheer control even when damaged, really great play

[@ThatOneTechy]

Scrapman is the kind of dude who makes a tank that can kickflip its that manoeuvrable

[@averagegamer-mx1of]

​@projectdeveloper9311 control mind you that came from his very specific damaged state

[@ProjectNoDarkNight]

I feel like you guys should do dogfights over land so you can take advantage of the terrain.

[@Kings_Forge]

Maybe a custom map with giant floating islands

[@AkwaMarine]

Or the Airborne map

[@LyricClock-fo8he]

@@Kings_Forgethat sounds sick, and with valleys and tunnels

[@Kings_Forge]

@@AkwaMarine I forgot about the airborne map

[@arnelilleseter4755]

A dogfight with even more players would be fun. Imagine the chaos as rockets are flying everywhere.

[@lordsrednuas]

I'd love to see torpedo bombers vs a boat match, especially with there being more of you now.

[@jetgaming5633]

I was legit thinking about that and was about to comment it too until i saw this comment

[@oriontherealironman]

Alright now we need an aerial melee fight 😂

[@Enislayer]

Maybe some emps

[@Samagryn]

Scrap out here proving that the Buff will outlive us all with the Flying Fortress.

[@The_Meloman]

I really loved how creativley you painted your plane, Scrapman! I love how the end points look all heated up like you are going too fast, good job on that!

[@brutace9219]

I don't know how easy/doable it is but it'd be cool to see an input randomizer. Say every 30 seconds all your vehicles' inputs will be randomly be scrambled. It might need to be a mod cause I don't know if there's enough logic in the world to make that happen.

[@-aid4084]

Yeah, that would be a mod :/

[@Vajdani]

Not possible even with mods

[@-aid4084]

@@Vajdani careful, I once said something was impossible in a scrapman video. They made it happen.

[@z4wx1]

couldnt inputs be pistons pushing in front of sensors and every like 30 seconds the sensors switch?

[@augustine6683]

Logic gates can be assigned key inputs, though the only problem is theres not really a random number generator so you'd have to do something to make it random

[@enkill9480]

Thank you so much scrapman for using my idea this shows that you actually care about your viewers and what thay want to see

[@Andy-iq9pz]

TIPS FOR DOGFIGHTING (from a dude who plays war thunder): make sure you keep your speed, thats the most important thing. Don't try to keep turning and wasting energy trying getting your gun on your opponent, you will bleed too much speed and stall, and become a sitting duck for other ppl. If you feel like they are turning to tight for you, you can just keep going the way you were going, because you should have a lot more speed than someone in a turn. you can then climb, exchanging speed for altitude, and then you can wait for others to make their move and be vulnerable. dive, go in super fast for a couple shots, leaving the fight, and climb back up again. Its hard for someone to shoot you when you keep your speed or are way above them.

[@CraftingCat_IX]

6:00 that music is from BastiGHG ZickZack 3

[@buckduane1991]

Would still like to see something based around the push-pull propeller conceit of the Dornier Do 335, probably better as a “this was built and actually flew!” episode than a multiplayer episode. Fascinating history to it and unconventional design from a seaplane / zeppelin designer who made the possibly fastest propeller fighter of WWII (which was too late to the war and still a prototype / trainer when Germany surrendered). Side note: winning by using the ground is valid and has been done in real life. It’s the arena known as “no room for error”. P-51 vs Fw-190, F-86 vs MiG-15 (many times), Israeli Mirage III vs Hawker Hunter, and Robin Olds’ F-4C (no gun) vs MiG-17 to name a few hair raising real life dogfights (which featured on the show “Dogfights” a decade ago).

[@Loop_Kat]

I know you guys have done it before, but it might be fun to revisit the BattleBots premise from a few years back (hard to believe the last one was already 2 years ago). I feel like there's a lot more potential for custom weapon mechanisms in Trailmakers now since the damage system was overhauled, it'd be really interesting to see how things like spinners, flippers, hammers, etc. actually perform

[@kaichisaki5267]

Oooo yes

[@quazarstar1937]

The multiple rounds with each gun type was fun to watch.

[@Delilah_the_dragon]

Scrapman is definitely undeniably an excellent pilot he has true skill

[@1ndictus445]

You guys should do Trailmakers workshop Olympics, where there are multiple different challenges and you get to pick among all your previous builds you have built saved in the blueprints.

[@shay5025]

Yuzei getting to understand Scapman's pro handling skillz

[@MrMattkid]

Now that you have 3 players you should do kamikaze planes versus battleships, I think you'll have a blast doing that.

[@JBRider]

🤣

[@mutebro7523]

Whoever will win drops the small boy

[@MrMattkid]

@@mutebro7523 I'm thinking they put tnt into their plane and just crash into them

[@mutebro7523]

@@MrMattkid and whoever survives becomes the fat man and kamikazes

[@blue_shift_1462]

I think something that would be fun would be a hydrofoil battle, but you can only fire if you're properly hydrofoiling above the water

[@collinkaufman2316]

Yeah the cannon has to be on the bottom of the boat

[@Titanblade17]

Dogfighting in these games is always super cool and fun to watch.

[@lordhellmaster0644]

I wonder if a melee aerial dog fight would be a good idea

[@offendedsquidward6725]

A battle with like hovering air ships would be super cool

[@Diekyl]

Hi Scrapman, since you have made experiments both on throwing bombs and conservation of momentum on rockets, I wonder if you could make some kind of "rocket thrower" to increase the relative velocity of your rockets. If it works, this could prove a devastating asset in future rocket dogfights.

[@martinferrand4711]

2 pistons in serie will launch the rocket much faster

[@hindricedvardsson8072]

Really cool video dude It was just as exiting and techically challenging as I thought it would be when I suggested it.

[@gaming_to_the_max]

I love the Crossout music when JB is showing off his build. Really ties in his channel.

[@35manning]

How about a dog fight where you can choose between engines or weapons. Eg, everyone may have 4 engines and 1 weapon, or 3 engines and 2 weapons, or 2 engines and 3 weapons. You need to decide between building a tank or fast plane, with limited weapons, or a slow weak plane with lots of weapons. Another variation will be everyone starts with 4 engines and 3 weapons, but each round the winner must delete one weapon and engine. When someone has to delete their last weapon, they take first place, but must continue to "fight" until the next player also has to delete their last weapon (and takes second place). Each round continues until only one player is still flying, so you still have to shoot down those without any weapons.

[@BeardedMan8319]

Dogfighting above ground, but when someone's plane get disabled, he has to transform to a land vehicle and continue the fight from there.

[@trikooo]

yayyy they did that one guy's requested challenge

[@Cooki3reaper]

i kinda was expecting one of them to place the minigun on the back of their plane for extra propulsion and to shoot backwards

[@joshtuttle843]

I think a good idea would be a dog fight without without using wings as a source of lift. aileron and elevators can be used to help with stability and steering but cannot be used to create any sort of lift or help get off the ground

[@jacobyh1845]

I think a thrust vectoring plane build would be insane

[@killrade4434]

My daughter and I watched Yzuei perspective last night. Afterwards I was like "I want to see scrap man perspective" but it wasn't up. Then I wake up and BAM. Happy morning to me. Keep up the great videos.

[@NONAME_098]

“I’m just gonna build a plane with wings” Idk why I found this funny

[@Burgo361]

It would be cool to see dogfight with a minimum weight if you haven't done that already

[@lullebulle7644]

it would be intresting to see a weapon propulsion battle

[@The_Canadian-idiot]

Dogfight with mini thrusters

[@JilliBog]

Love the vids you got me to playing trailmakers

[@dragonmasterlangeweg7625]

Slow moving plane battle, with detachable sections that have a altitude sensor and the gyroscopic thrusters, to maintain the altitude they were at when dropped, with sensors and a minugun turret on each one, and each person can release up two four of those, and no weapons on the planes themselves, see who can survive the longest, and you have to drop one of the floating turrets every 30 seconds, unless you don't have any left. Once everyone is downed or unable to fly, have a normal dogfight, in the area where the floating turrets have been deployed.

[@strucktwice6067]

This might sound like a dumb comment, but in these battles I would really like to see more creative gimmicks and abilities in these builds. Sure you can have the same old plane, car, or boat battle, but what if this car had a rotatable shield in the front that can also turn into a motorcycle? Or a plane with extendable prongs to gouge your opponents from the sky alongside hidden eject with just a propeller, a seat, and a gun? This all might sound stupid, but try being lenient and bending the rules a bit to make all these normal old battles a bit more SPICY!!

[@connornicholas2109]

Use 2 thrusters the one behind the Raw jet.

[@grindingtank]

Airplane statistic Yzui type of plane : Speedster Speed: [123456789•] Durability: [1234••••••] Agility: [12345•••••] Scrapman type of plane : agile Speed: [123456••••] Durability: [123456••••] Agility: [12345678••] Jb type of plane : tank/heavy plane Speed: [1234••••••] Durability: [123456789•] Agility: [123456••••] Correct meh if I'm wrong guys😅

[@D4rk_Lum1nous]

Finally a raw jet engine video, I really like them but I think they deserve a good buff on their thrust to compensate for the weight and 3sec cool down

[@Winkle_TV]

Day 147 of asking Scrapman to search for "Realistic" in the Trailmakers workshop

[@vanrasheedmella8994]

hope he sees this

[@pattemplayz]

hope it happens

[@pattemplayz]

#do #polstt #idea

[@pattemplayz]

ima try to keep this too comment

[@pattemplayz]

i’ll keep commenting

[@theluckyduck4054]

Land VS sea

[@HS.Media07]

The hit on Yzuei at 17:16 was so cool

[@youtubeuser5402]

I bought trailmakers because of scrap man a couple months back and I've loved it ever since! I'm currently working on a transforming hovercar

[@austincowan2641]

I would like to see scrapman remake his old all purpose vehicles again. I loved those old vids and think I would love seeing him do it again with all the new parts! Day one of asking scrapman to make a third all purpose vehicle video!

[@PrehistoricDeathPlague]

My thing was that the Whole end design (Excluding Engines) was 10ish kg LESS then the 2 Raw Jets and Cockpit. Hahah

[@ChidingOver1305]

everyone's attitude at the end was like wow scrapman is good at the game lol this is a surprise to no one

[@TheAngryForest]

You can make the RAW jet into a pulse jet that has near constant thrust. Set the duration to 0.1 and a delay of 0.2. This would have been in the rules of the game but not the spirit.

[@kimbarsalou8153]

Can you do a blimp dogfight with the balloons as lift and jet engines for propulsion

[@DETHdressedInRED]

12:00 yeah this was probably the most epic air to air combat kill in this game. A few inches over and Yzuei could have had a double kill kill.

[@OnyxBMW]

Here's a thought. For future air battles, define a classification of planes. Normal fighters, and heavy fighters. A normal fighter is allowed 1 engine of choice, an arbitrary weight and/or block limit, and 1 gun. A heavy fighter is allowed 2 engines of choice, but must be a minimum weight and block count, chosen to limit maneuverability. For the disadvantage of being heavier, they're allowed to have redundant engines and a second gun. If 'normal' fighters are too weak, allow normal fighters to repair once mid-battle as well. And also probably make a rule that weapons may only be mounted forward facing. Speed and nimbleness versus durability and firepower, might spice up air battles a tiny bit. If you want multi-directional guns, may as well add a bomber class for the ultimate air battles.

[@Aido024]

If you repeat the raw engine fast than its just a normal strong engine and one other to replace thea one thats cooling down

[@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning]

I can't help but to wonder if Yzuei coulda been the winner if he had mounted his Weapons underneath him instead of on top in combo with taking advantage of his higher Max Speed and Elevation Attainability and just kept trying to Death from Above-ing...

[@timestopgaming2674]

ScrapMan SHOULD have lost that last round but by sheer, raw willpower he not only won but made JB's plane go boom

[@DETHdressedInRED]

I'm so glad you guys did this! I think I posted a comment about it on the single jumbo engine video but I don't remember, but I do know I was thinking about this because of the minigun recoil. Such a unique challenge lol.

[@brill85]

Energy is very important in this type of plane compared to other types of trailmakers move.

[@ivan-ky9mk]

12:03 is so epic. Yuzie BROKE SCRAPS WING TO MAKE HIM RAM JB, thats AWEDOME

[@TheVerySleepyCalmGuy]

Imagine scrapman in a dogfight but his plane is little small and have redundant wings and speed be like

[@strucktwice6067]

Do a MAXIMUM complexity battle with like 30 power cores with 2-3 guns max, *anything* can be on the table with this one!! (Preferably ground based builds)

[@DeaconCanle]

I wanna see a can't slow down dogfighting challenge. Basically have a block limit w/out engines or guns, then add on like 4 dragon thrusters that are on a toggle and have to stay on the entire time. Then add your cycle of weapons and fight it out at max speed!

[@anirudhaharikrishnan7465]

It would be cool if you do dogfights with light planes that go close to the speed of sound

[@solidmoon8266]

Its always the faster player who has the advantage when the weapons are equal. Being able to control the range is so huge

[@KalijahAnderson]

40 seconds into video, me, "This is going to be absolute chaos."

[@Andrew-r6g1j]

Hidden technique: group the raw engines separately so that when one thrust goes out, the other thrust kicks in, and you have thrust all the time

[@Andrew-r6g1j]

O wait nvm

[@wjng8425]

Please make challange where in order to fire weapons, your vehicle must be at a range of minimum and maximum speed limits in trail makers. The setup is use two speed sensors, one set to trigger above a set speed, and another set to trigger below a set speed, link them all to and gates with your gun fire button. Rules are no fancy system to keep within the set speed range

[@joecannonball]

That one was sick guys! Ufo fights land sea and air at the same time

[@jean-pierre562]

Need a flying obstacle course while dogfighting 😂

[@Agostonhal]

Finally, they did the thing.

[@PhysicsNumericalsJEEAdv]

do a dog fight but there is no propulsion but only the launch pads can only help

[@starf0rge]

A challenge where you have planes versus amphibious land and sea vehicles would be pretty cool

[@dr.hammersonph.d1921]

I’d be interested to see them use their knowledge and experience in a no-holds-barred dogfight with no gimmick or limitations, using what they’ve learned over all these gimmick vids to create the ultimate plane

[@emmakelley5371]

Alternatively, a multirounder but only from planes you built for gimmick battles. I like both.

[@Baholand]

I got this game a few days ago because of you and the first ever “plane” I made used these thrusters because I was limited by what I had in the campaign. To be honest though, I love it more than a normal plane 😂

[@gergelyracz8240]

25:54 "And of course he does..." 🤣🤣

[@Zec3nix]

I love watching dog fights videos

[@blackoak4978]

Yzuie is the best pilot when it comes to keeping something in the air, but Scrapman is a pretty good pilot and he is generally good at thinking strategically

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

Imagine if TM had an assess damage feature, where you could bring in your creation after it’s destroyed without repairing it (if thats not already a thing)

[@mma_4242]

That was soooo cool

[@alasterzefurry1706]

Scrapman's out here pulling off the impossible with half a plane and no rocket

[@Blue-kl4ol]

Just out of curiosity, is there a deep underwater, pitch black darkness area that is suitable for fighting where you have to use and light source to find and identify the enemy while being careful in giving away your location?

[@jjsanimations]

probably somewhere in the deep sea dlc. i havent explored it much but scrapman probably has

[@MergeMechanic7395]

11:00 Says he's not going to shoot during his cool-down >Shoots during cool-down

[@RobertJackson-vc9rk]

the part JB shot off in the second mini gun round was the elevator not the tail, the tail is the vertical portion in the back, not the horizontal

[@tdog_]

yzuei's plane looks so cool

[@generalhux1818]

scrapman always tends toward a tank-style build. "how many times can I get hit and survive?" yeuzi really likes his speed "how few times can I get hit?" JB tends to come up with a ridiculous strategy and rely on surprise: "ha, betchu didn't see that coming!" idk, just my thoughts ig.

[@FoxGuyGames]

i think its time for some round 2's of some of these better buildoffs, especially with jb involved now it brings new angles to all this

[@Wreckedftfoxy]

this is where a pulsejet system to pulse the thrusts makes it last a bit longer

[@collinkaufman2316]

Yeah and letting the raw jets overheat gets a longer cool time if you stop using them before overheating they will cool much faster

[@jimmy13sloth]

do a plane dog fight evolution where you make a build with a smart cannon and then do one evolution of the winning one and stick a mini gun on it then evolve the wining design and put a rocket on it

[@VOYSTAN]

1 small prop propultion fight/no wings/only mini trusters as turning(no control sefuces)/use only one section of build menu(only seats/only mechanical)

[@negerhans]

i love the face of scrap mans plane

[@icecrystal7965]

Habitual linecrosser vibes with "I eat rockets for breakfast"

[@geraldbarreau3]

I was so fun to watch. Another great video.

[@mako8643]

With proper timing on a pair of engines you can make a functional pulse jet that will not overheat. Historically the only example I can think of was the V1 from the 1940s (and if memory serves it had concrete wings too).

[@nikkiofthevalley]

... That's not what a pulsejet is.

[@FranciumEater]

Love it

[@richardwilmer4550]

Functional pieces only dogfight. No armor, no redundant connections. Just wings, aerodynamics, cockpit, thrust and weapon.

[@sethorindustries4749]

25:30 I guess he could say he was... filled with DETERMINATION. lol