Dogfighting In The Depression Machine - S.O.4050 IIA Vautour IDF/AF

[@bideobunkey4213]

To this day I still do not know why Defyn subjects himself to such brutal torture.

[@absboodoo]

It's the same with all of us that still plays. "Fuck you and I'll see you tomorrow!"

[@Sevastous]

Because he is trying to bring us legit content, Not making Mig21MF video after years of not playing because it became instant meta because of its 10. 3 now (for example)

[@nikolasweintritt5226]

@@absboodoo pretty much every other chat at the beginning of top tier battles is either „glhf“ or „why am I even still playing this game“ lol

[@michaelvigil5321]

Risk and Reward, a key staple in video game design. If I play a P-51 I go really fast but i *RISK* not outturning an A6M if it gets too close. If I'm high up and see someone low and slow, i can kill them for an easy kill but i *RISK* getting jumped by someone who was more patient. I can return to base, fill up on all the essentials, and go back into the battle with significant comfort, i *RISK* nothing because AF AAA will not even give players a chance to kill me in current day War Thunder.

[@STRYKER_b14]

Yeah, the risk is not there anymore.

[@Seagull780]

You lose all your altitude though

[@michaelvigil5321]

@@Seagull780 doesn't matter, you can just climb in your aaa bubble

[@Seagull780]

@@michaelvigil5321 idk I nearly killed a hurricane trying that in a Kate where the only forward facing gun is a 7.7, and I'm not even that good

[@michaelvigil5321]

@@Seagull780 if someone camps their AF and climbs then the only thing they have to do to survive is dodge. Dodging is really easy when the attacking aircraft is going fast and they will have to be going fast to survive the attack or else the aaa will shred them almost instantly since Gaijin keeps buffing the AF AAA.

[@adalsev8518]

If I got reversed by a goddamn Vautour, I'd just quit the game. It can't get more embarrassing than that.

[@chinoz5613]

yea it can, get reversed by a bv 238

[@spadehaze1541]

Reversed by Pe-8

[@mayonotes9849]

Reversed by Po-2.

[@liger7275]

Bro, you can get reversed by almost any plane in the game and die if you overshoot like a dummy. But that god damn G91, lost a turn fight ... against a Vautour. I would uninstall immediately.

[@gaiofattos2]

Reverse by a Helicopter

[@addos999]

"maybe you should fly better" - advice 98% of war thunder players should take :)

[@alexey_burkov]

It is redirection of responsibility. "Maybe you can teach others fly better". Defyn definitely trying to do this. Big respect. And what about you? Not everyone deserves to say these words.

[@1337Jogi]

It is an elitist and intrinsically stupid "advice". It is the same as "git gud" or "learn to code" It like a rich man saying about the housing prices "maybe try and not be poor"

[@mr_confuse]

@@1337Jogi like, bruh, AA exists for a reason in real life, and it should in WT. Thing is with how Gaijin always over does things it's, once again, way too strong. The AA buff for top tier I can accept, for props however? Fml. The SAM Sites at 7.7 are such a pain, the M247s shooting their air burst shit through terrain? Fml. The SAM Missiles which are not flare or chaffable? Such a stupid "mechanic"

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

@@mr_confuse and airfields shouldn’t even be that close to the battlefield as it is in war thunder. The locations of targets and the runways in war thunder is stupid and illogical, and makes the gameplay not fun and stupid too.

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

@@alexey_burkov he does make videos about improving your gameplay.

[@TallyFox2]

As a retired bomber main, this does put a smile on my face

[@sinxsideways5900]

@Desi once u unlock the nice jets bombers are boring. Only use them for.rp grinding

[@TallyFox2]

@Desi I barely play them anymore because they’re somewhat useless in air RB. Sure a team can work around them, but you never see that while solo queuing.

[@jjbogan3791]

@@TallyFox2 same bro i got bored of them occasionally the lower tier bomber hunters and higher teirs but yeah other than that they are pretty boring for just bombing

[@Broomtwo]

I wish i could fly my b29 but its 49k repair lol

[@MrNukabear]

The AA gets me so raging. I just quit. What's the point in me even trying when people just bomb 3 tanks and AFK the rest of the game to get the win. Also can not be fucked to grind out 5,000,000 SL to actually buy the planes I've unlocked

[@potatofuryy]

Af AA is shit anyway, you can easily just ignore it and kill them quickly.

[@ihatekid]

@@potatofuryy ahhahahahhhahahahahh

[@absboodoo]

@@potatofuryy Problem is it's hit and miss. Sometimes you could fly for a full minute without taking any dmg, the other times just BANG lol rng.

[@gurazeez]

@@absboodoo It used to be inconsistent like that, but its been buffed, never happens anymore. Also ,the AA's range has been increased through the roof, my do217 got hit flying at 4500m altitude.(earlier, 3000m used to be safe)

[@chinoz5613]

they should make it so you get charged sl for how long youve been within the rang of the af spaa

[@FRDOMFGTHR]

You know what’s more depressing than this? grinding out all French jets and the mirage with the iia, the one without offensive armament...

[@lordwintertown8284]

You mean the IIB, B denotes bomber while A denotes Attacker & not in game N means iirc night fighter/ interceptor (which they may as well just reclass the IDF/AF IIA as). Just use the Vultures in ASB, Vautour = Vulture..

[@LeadFollower551]

You mean the IIB....

[@FRDOMFGTHR]

@@lordwintertown8284 thanks for the info i was thinking it was like mk #s and you get it first so I chose a lol I just hated that shit so much so I don’t really care lmao

[@24YOA]

I remember when this plane was moderately enjoyable to fly. Fast, good climb, missiles and a lot of ground loadouts with a "don't fuck with me" head-on loadout.

[@152mmapfsds]

DEFYN spittin straight facts on that Airfield AA

[@michaelvigil5321]

Defyn has the best rants. Really needs a position in gaijin where he slaps everyone there and tells them what bullshit just happened in his match

[@152mmapfsds]

@@michaelvigil5321 FACTS. Some of these KZbinrs need to climb the ranks in Gaijibbles corps and get to work

[@Mucdaba]

okay but can you get the usual 7 kills with he he 162?

[@abdulrahmandarwish2962]

Thanks DEFYN for this video, I'm so glad you made a video about the premium Vautour recently, because all the other videos on the Vautour are from when it first came out and since War Thunder is always changing, a recent video is way more accurate since the Vautour has gotten a lot worse since it came out like 1 or 2 years ago. This is helpful for me since I bought the Vautour and it's hard for me to use it because all the videos are old and inaccurate and they don't help me. Thanks again

[@derkaiser9881]

AF AA is so damn strong that it's almost necessary to have a dedicated IL-28 or something on your team with its wings ripped off and tail gunner ready and waiting on their AF. If someone starts camping the base Ivan gives 'em what for.

[@michaelvigil5321]

Sometimes the aa shoots at dead planes, seems to be completely random when it decides to do so.

[@temptemp8190]

I feel like rn, in jets, I basically have to take min fuel, since now everyone else just takes min fuel, gets the performance advantage, and then runs back to base with no consequences, what's the point in taking 20 mins in a sabre and having much worse acceleration now?

[@TomPrickVixen]

And with the recent update the devs tried to fix the AF camping by adding the "active players" meta. I actually like it!

[@joeshaw1557]

I love your content so much keep it up brother❤️

[@furinick]

the only time i ever use the aa is when people dont give me space to take off, and even that feels scummy, i preffer to die than to retreat to miss mommy aaa airfield to pwoteect my wittle twitle pwane

[@michaelvigil5321]

My goal in life is to become so rich i can buy war thunder and hand it over to a company that knows what they are doing, gonna strip the game of the bullshit tickets, aaa, tiny br range, ect ect ect.

[@liamdahlberg1332]

The hero we need.

[@JustComeAndBouc]

pretty pathetic goal tbh

[@michaelvigil5321]

@@JustComeAndBouc Joke.

[@JustComeAndBouc]

@@michaelvigil5321 no shit 🤡

[@pauliusUwU]

"Your team died and you're the reason for not having the ammo and fuel to carry"-DEFYN

[@michaelvigil5321]

If your team died and you don't have the ammo and you need to rtb then just leave after you repair because you're not going to win when the enemy doesn't have to climb again and nobody wants to wait 3 extra minutes for you to get far enough from your airfield that you can't just run back when you see someone.

[@plantenthusiast3052]

That's what makes it a team-based game. You keep your team alive so you don't have to carry, and if your team loses because the enemy was better, then they should win. What's hard to understand about that?

[@southweststrangla9591]

If you help out your teammates you can keep them alive and get some easy kills. Also as the guy above mentioned it's team-based game, you don't get any safe zone even in tank RB (let alone other multiplayer games) if you happen to take too little ammo or your team gets stomped do you?

[@arilagi]

i still waiting for the he 100 :) and will always be waiting, thank you for making this great video , love your content so much :)

[@wyvern7567]

I love the AA rant at the end. I have used AA to win matches to even the odds when I am last player alive but very rarely. but I always take off and try to fight rather than just camp the airfield. I have died or quit too many matches to count because the last player on enemy team refuses to take off or abuses the J out.

[@liamdahlberg1332]

Holy shit imagine AF camping against a Vautor.

[@1337Jogi]

He wasn't though. Defyn was the one camping his base in a game where you have a distinct advantage when you are the one camping outside. That is scummy as hell. "Oh we started at the same level playing field - if you have to go back its your fault" That is what he says in this video, while in others for alot of planes he recommends "do not take dull fuel - you will be so heavy that you lose".

[@1337Jogi]

Maybe instead of whinig go attack ground targets - he is a bomber after all. What? You let all your bombs go at the start of the game so you are not too heavy? Well that was you fault - do not try to pass your fault to others

[@liamdahlberg1332]

@@1337Jogi It's your fault if you dont take enough fuel though. Most planes you should not take full fuel anyway. Like, what's the point of going 1h fuel in a maximum 25 min match. Some planes use up more fuel than others on the mig 21's for instance, they use up a lot of fuel so taking as close to full fuel is needed because if you afterburn the whole time 30 min of fuel will last barely 10 minutes. But in the g91 r/3 or r/4 you don't use up so much fuel. Most planes you will lose with full fuel, however that does not mean you can't go 20 min of fuel instead of the minimum at maybe 8 minutes. You have to know your plane and if you are in a dogfight against a player with the same plane as you and that person has less fuel you will probably lose in a dogfight and you have to get that kill in other ways. Maybe bait for team mates or something. Even if you go min fuel does not mean you will have to rtb, if you don't go full throttle all the time 8 minutes of fuel on maybe mig 15 bis will last the whole match. Secondly, Defyn was not camping. Edit: I rewatched the part were ''Defyn was camping'' and he was not, the mig 15 bis played poorly, the mig 15 bis is much more manouverable and would easily win against a BOMBER. What he should have done is go in a straight line and build up some more speed and he would be able to dodge every dive Defyn would have done because well, Defyn played as a fucking BOMBER.

[@billybob-joe1153]

@@liamdahlberg1332 damn, made him shut up real quick. Also I would like to point out you are entirely right, all he had to do was go straight and dodge when a missile or he is about to shoot. It's not hard to dodge a 10g missile and definitely not hard to jink a bomber to force an over shoot and try for a shot. EVEN IF YOU FAIL YOU WILL STILL LEARN SOMETHING! Trying to fight instead of instantly running away will at least teach you what and what not to do! Fail with some dignity, say your gg, and move on to the next fight where you do it right instead of the ai doing it FOR you. You learn nothing and you remain a noobie.

[@liamdahlberg1332]

@@billybob-joe1153 well said.

[@gliderfs621]

Update 1 : i’ve noticed that Gaijin reworked for mid jets, and bring back the Vautour and other fast subsonics at 9.0 (was at 9.7 back in the days). Seems like this plane could be a bit competitive, especially when she’s downtiered.

[@HUEEY]

R4 players never disappoint to impress

[@dakotahondalock5621]

What?

[@HUEEY]

@@dakotahondalock5621 woke up, made this comment, and now i see my flawed grammar lmfao.

[@dakotahondalock5621]

@@HUEEY haha I figured as much

[@liger7275]

Imagine being that guy, losing a dogfight in an R4 against a Vaoutour. And he's spaded as well cause premium. And he paid at least $30 for that plane lmao.

[@markszabo3936]

I've been waiting for this one

[@PixCro]

AAA is hard as fuck to camp properly. AF is a place that requires extreme amount of situational awareness at all times. AAA is stressful and complicated to fly around. It is the End Game for pilots in War Thunder. So there is no wonder that many if not the big majority of people don't like the AF AAA. It is not a relaxing thing to do. You need to think quickly, be smart, take initiative and most of all... predict enemy movements and never do mistakes. It is a long list of things... but if you do all this, provided you are even capable to do all these things... Only then will you start smashing your enemies so hard, that people will envy you, call you a statpadder, hacker, reroll, AF camper and many more things. Then you finally know... you are doing it right. AF is a warhorse. A horse that is tough, strong, resilient and dangerous. Spaceclimbers have their place but they are race horses... And race horses are fragile, sensitive and if just one single thing isn't going right, they fail to perform. So unless you are meant to fly around AAA and can see the beauty of the many prerequisites of doing circles around your AF and its hard life... you will never master it. AAA is like the sword of Excalibur, only the chosen ones can pull it out of the Brick and unlock its power.

[@timbit4tim]

Could you play the Yak 3 Vk107?

[@jjbogan3791]

13:01 man literally said "you have air to air missile" like bruh its an aim9b you can dogde that shit easy if you have eyes hahaha

[@therd2127]

Or you know, actually kept their speed.

[@TheDAWinz]

Back in the day used to be amazing, how far its fallen 😂 appreciate the vid on my once favorite plane

[@gliderfs621]

Well, Vautour is still very competitive in RB

[@DEFYN]

No it isn't lmao

[@1EthanCC]

This plane used to be pretty good before the power creep in early jets.

[@MrVinicius5000]

I think the probem of the AA machanic is that there is no type of prevention for abuse, i think that is perfectly fine to you have a "safe spot" for reloading, reparing and refueling, but without any type of pay off becomes a real problem, maybe only 1 repair per game or even auto angar if you stay too much time in there could help.

[@viruspter1dactl]

Why doesn't it just shoot you up in the air forcing you off the ground and spawned you at 800 kph like on a carrier when you land on it using a air force ejt

[@MrVinicius5000]

@@viruspter1dactl Thats sounds even better !!!

[@DarthCody700]

You should play the Tempest II, there is a lack of videos on it on all of KZbin

[@cabbagelord9378]

If I’m ever the last one on the team against multiple enemies I just return to my airfield, but instead of camping there and waiting for the enemies to get killed or scared by AA I just leave the plane and let the enemies win as they deserved the win.

[@idrag7]

Just watching it, feels like a fucking boat

[@hatoffnickel]

Defyn!! Thanks for giving the IDF some love! Question though, I fall into that G.91's category of good at sustaining a fight but terrible at transitioning to the attack. Is this something you think is worth your time making a video on?

[@TreeG-os6dg]

I have similar problem as well. Like, I know how to use my energy to set up energy traps, but I am not really sure when should I drop and get the guns on target, and enemies often just dive away, it’ll end up either I spend a really long time chasing them on the deck or the fight got disturbed by others.

[@dezurniblejac3863]

The best AAA video ever :D

[@realwalter4404]

Could you try the la 7 ? I got it by my self but I just cant take it anymore to fight against j2m2, a6m5 and all that shit.

[@bethelscrubs2549]

Nice bombing run at 13:20, that was clean.

[@candymancody]

Personally I think a lot of that “running to the airfield” stuff revolves around the war thunder economy. When you shot down that A5, that player just lost probably half of everything he earned that match, if not more. I’m sure if gaijin would make the grind 1/2 as long as it is and 1/2 as expensive you wouldn’t see that nearly as much.

[@HRCSJSUAMMAS]

I think one of my favorite games ever I was one of two left in my yak 1 when the AAA blew my wing off. Somehow although dead it still flew on one wing so I flew over to the enemy airfield and strafed their last guy on the runway while the AF AAA ignored me.

[@onyourkilllist6880]

*_That moment when you make a shitty vehicle look OP. I see the DEFN video. I click. I’m a simple man!_*

[@andre232323]

Defyn the masochist. Very well played.

[@TheGatewayProductions]

Many thanks for this upload! Depression is terrible but we can fight it!

[@turbov7611]

I would like to know how many of your games you solo que @DEFYN ?

[@wardaddy5562]

Every match. Literally every match I encounter 1 or 2 base camper. And talking about AAA there are some mid map AAA those are too much scary. There are like a red circle in a middle of the map you cant do dog fight below 3k alt or AAA will kill you, yes I am not talking about air field AAA. I am talking about mid map red circle AAA.

[@ryanjonathanmartin3933]

I hate mid-map AA so much. I have to stay above 4000 m now to avoid getting shot down.

[@theRealests]

AF AAA should get a nerf or an eradication. But with those gone, people who want to take off after repairing/rearming could easily get strafed. they should just add a spawn protection that lasts like 10 seconds *after* taking off.

[@AbhishekSingh-gy1zn]

very good point bro, why AF AA shouldnt be there, am fed up of that thing.And there are people who just sit on runways and dont even take off, so pathetic, this needs to go away.

[@billybob-joe1153]

I do hate it when a 109 is outrunning me at altitude then just dives to the af to camp because they aren't 2km above me... I get the reason for the af and I support having it, but it NEEDS A RELOAD! sure go repair or re arm or refuel because a bomber is just space camping and you need the fuel... But they shouldn't have unlimited ammo or missiles to shoot at you. They need to have a decent reload time of like 3-5 minutes to not make the af shit. It doesn't teach anyone anything and it requires no skill to dive to aa. Especially now when just normal ai trucks can hit you by being near them for 5 seconds to get a kill.

[@lv100magikarp4]

I agree 100% with you on the AAA and tickets topics. If it's of your interest, could you also talk about intentional teamkilling? I'll be uploading a video of a teamkill that happened to me and that is something I'm a little fed up of. Most of it because I know Gaijin won't do much about. Also, I just want to say that your videos have taught me so much about Air RB and I really enjoy them. Cheers ;)

[@jimmiarreltherford8464]

Love the Vautours but missiles make them really hard to play. In Ground RB, I just keep speed as much as I can (like the Wyvern). Zoom in the AO, drop the bombs then GTFO. Zoom climb and do it all over again. Thou sometimes I just get sniped from my spawn from Radar guided missile AA vehicles 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️ it happens. This video is very appreciated 👌🏾🤘🏾

[@allsetago5881]

I would love to see (and would be cathartic for you!) to do one (rant video) every month?

[@turbonut1]

D E F Y N A I R F I E L D M A L D

[@haze245]

The AAA pisses me off to no end but removing it out right wouldn't work for a long time after so just nerf it to the ground so it doesn't pilot snipe me from 7km away in prop planes and missles me from 10km where I can't even spot the missles in early jets

[@firestarteronyoutube5542]

9:22, the shot on the F-30 Sabre, if I wasn’t as good at aiming, but knew I could and would hit, would it be better for me to hold the trigger down a bit more?

[@billybob-joe1153]

Absolutely, holding the trigger is what most pilots do in order to just rake the plane with rounds. Now don't shoot too early tho or they will see the tracers and dodge by the time they would fly through lol. It's a fine Ballance, but if your plane has enough rounds, absolutely go for it. Even if props if you want in order to find the right lead and learn

[@_GODSFIGHTER]

Nice flying man

[@NicNac723]

Could you do a video on the premium Yak-38? I got it in the bundle and I can honestly say it’s one of the worst 9.3 jets in game rn. I’ve kinda got the hang of doing okay in games, but if you can do better I’d love to see how! 👌🏼

[@bideobunkey4213]

Based on my experience the yak38 is quite scary. When it gets behind me when I'm in a Sabre F40 the R-60s it has are a instant death sentence.

[@NicNac723]

@@bideobunkey4213 that’s totally fair. In a downtier with enemies that don’t have after burners or many missiles, it’s pretty hard to not get a kill or two. I’d say if you wanna counter a Yak-38 and he’s locking you from within 2.5km you can probably jink the r-60 since it takes a sec after launch for it to start its track. If a Yak is closer on your 6 it’s really easy to reverse them by just pulling a tight loop or roll bc they can’t turn for shit.

[@sinxsideways5900]

U don't turn well and when u do u bleed ur speed hard. Ur a bootleg f104 without the engine power and better missiles. Boom and zoom and don't turn fight anything at the beginning of the game or even mid game use ur missiles nd go back to base and rearm ur gun is shit and hard to aim and has 160 bullets when it shoots them all in like 3 seconds. Hope this helped. Its only viable bc it has r60s

[@MausOfTheHouse]

It's not the worst 9.3, by far. The 9.3 sabre with missiles exists.

[@bideobunkey4213]

@@MausOfTheHouse Lmao that's exactly what I use. The Japanese sabre with aim9bs at 9.3. Its genuinely painful

[@georgef.7434]

The AA is even worse at low tier. Just what new pilots need is to get shot down in the middle of the map, while trying to engage the enemy. It happened to me. Middle of a dogfight, and shot down by AA, not over their base but pretty close to the middle of the map.

[@agustinbinello9753]

I do Agree with AA been overpowered that is for sure, i never camp AF, i only did it when i was lvl 5 or 10 but sometimes i do need yo rtb and am not gonna camp AA but the people who straife, i honestly hate it, AA should protect only if you are on runway for a limited time, not if you are just flying arround it stalling the match. Love your content

[@jambothejoyful2966]

The period of time should be 30 s while you are repairing

[@Baso-sama]

totally agree with the aaa rant

[@TheFanatical1]

Base AAA allows you to sacrifice air superiority to hit ground units and win the map via tickets. If the 15bis had a ticket advantage then his strategy would have been fine, but he didn't, so there wasn't much point in it.

[@skatemaster33]

But what about the Me 136 that NEEDS to be able to land, do we just allow planes to camp over their AF and give the Me no chance to refuel, this is just as bad imo. All we need is a system to punish people who do not get back into the battlefield after going to the AF. Or we need a big revamp of Air RB because it's the way this gamemode works that's messed up.

[@gliderfs621]

Update 2 : reversing Migs doesnt surprise me, these planes have horrible roll rate.

[@thesaltyhotdog3761]

Honestly I think to counter airfield aaa, after a while it automatically teleports u out of the protected area with an extra 500m of alt to make it kinda fair(since sometimes ur enemies are way above u so an extra 500m is better than nothing), and for a period of time, if u try to return it will teleport u back outside again (kinda like map borders). That way you can still rearm and repair safely but u cannot camp. And if u do it too many times u get kicked out of the match and everyone (on the enemy team ofc) gets a kill.

[@bananataco1235]

What are your controls you use to fly like that?

[@stephanesoler3085]

looks like a 787 dreamliner with missiles

[@Olympicmarine]

I agree with you man. AA should not be part of Air RB... Air AB?? Maybe... Anyway, good vid man... Thanks for sharing your frustration with us... Cheers!!

[@blueray676]

I completly agree to you about removing airfield aa just because someone is about to die that isn't an excuse for them to hold a game for another 20 minutes and you won't actually improve if you camp af as you would just think of it everytime you mess up something instead of actually revising your playstyle and consider what you have done wrong to end up in this situation keep up the videos doof

[@funi_chest]

that AA rant section was beautiful. AA shouldn't be this good and u saying "take more fuel/spray less/dont get hit. is just something people dont want to understand." its so true yet people just complain and rely on some rng bs (thats quoted from u :) instead of making the fight fun and actually playing the game.

[@pauliusUwU]

He literally said "Git Gud".

[@lordwintertown8284]

@Desi Well that sums up me half the time I land is due to ammunition shortages which has resulted by the fact my ping is upwards of 500 while rarely below that, firing at the right moment yet always a miss from the ping. A skilled pilot doomed by ping, God damn Australian internet. So for them to say spray less as if to all players is an insult to those with ping issues, well at least we become some slippery pricks in dogfights due to it..

[@pkt0827]

Airfield AA is just a pain in the ass to deal with, especially in props. I have several occasions where I got a decent game and still lost because the last guy was camping AF. And now its just getting worse in top tier with SAMs. I'd actually rather be AF strafed a hundred times than facing an AF camper.

[@JustAnotherRandomPersonOnline]

Can't help but agree. If someone is on AF for more then 60 seconds (give em time to pick another loadout) and there is no friendlies on their team in the air, they ought to start loosing tickets rapidly as if their team lost all vehicles.

[@boogieyib1773]

It must be so demoralising to be reversalled by a bomber

[@districtnull]

I always wish to encounter you in a match but man would that be an amazing fight Vautour vs Yak-28. Sigh, maybe next time...

[@oldundead]

Sometimes when I land back and I see my entire team fucked up, I hold J just so I don't waste my time and the others.

[@treehunter1]

The real depression machine is actually any 8.3 jet currently

[@jambothejoyful2966]

Nah Sabre and g91 are fun

[@gliderfs621]

Well well, Vautour used to be the best plane in War Thunder, and now, its crown went to another aircraft. The fact is the Vautour have a gameplay very similar to the Lansen, was also once the best plane on War Thunder.

[@varunkoganti9067]

They should make this rule, like if a guy stays near AF fir more than 45 sec the AF will turn off.

[@Galm02]

defyin rlly be defyin all odds

[@nirvand7431]

You're right about airfield AAA. I've always had the opinion that if you get strafed on the runway, you must have fucked up by taking a risk with min fuel, spraying too much, or being unlucky with your teammates and being the last plane on your team, and in every case its unfair to the enemy team to have to waste so much time over your fuck ups. I've been strafed a lot, and yes I've gotten mad over it but i still think the new SAMs are bs. back when they were first implemented you could somewhat dodge them so it wasnt as bad.

[@GeorgieSVK]

Im almost crying hearing About AAA. Last year its just EVERY SINGLE MATCH i have a camping pathetic kid. Even 3 man in G55s. It needs to be removed ASAP. Thx for the video.

[@DominuBoi]

The airfield AA sometimes really pisses me off. Once I was going to win a 1v6 but the last guy just ran back to the airfield and stayed there until the tickets bleed and we lost.

[@Matt-uk7zq]

Dive him with your team at the same time, really not that hard

[@vaguevtx5090]

Can believe the B29 is as high as it is

[@girostade5477]

I playing the vautour rn to grind my tech tree, I honestly could never hope to do what you did in this vid, hahaa I use the Vautour like a Ferrari with hit & run hability, I keep my speed above 1000 and out run missile... I never thought of dogfighting in it...

[@BrunimMCD]

Im starting to convince myself that if gaijin puts a jet thats basically bricks , a gun, and an engine and give to you, you would still df these people and win anyway.

[@0ero809]

RIP MatTig3r

[@halolime117]

Wait what this thing has missiles???? Never in my life have I seen someone use them in game! :0

[@saintmobius5348]

Fly out the Weeabo chariot of fire - the Ki-96.

[@sietseambergen]

Willen we meer of minder Base AA?

[@MausOfTheHouse]

How about you review the one of the harder jets: BI

[@MausOfTheHouse]

Again.

[@sinxsideways5900]

Is this not a hard plane to play?💀

[@tomatoflight]

If repair costs weren't so high a lot fewer people would camp airfields. Besides now the AA hardly works anyways

[@kingsleyc08]

Is tech tree vautour any good just to have fun because fast airspawn

[@DEFYN]

It's the same plane without missiles They're both depression machines

[@sinxsideways5900]

If they actually land idgaf if there are sams or not u can dodge them quite easily if u just changes vectors enough they can't catch u even if u fly straight u just have to watch the missiles until ur close enough to kill them. If they are just flying around the AF tho that's the real problem bc u cant have a dogfight above the af without getting fucked by AA. Also if its more than 2 of u against the guy I find aa has a hard time shooting at 2 ppl especially the sams one game it was almost as if they shut off they just weren't shooting at us. Might have been a bug. But I completely agree on aa being removed

[@Galm02]

awesome gameplay as usual but damn ig some ppl just hate cutting their throttle

[@hyk1348]

Reason why DEFYN could win versus G.91 R/4: It was the German user in it. And DEFYN was in Vautour.

[@alexmaximus9134]

About that airfield rant thing. What about if i'm heavily damaged because i use a turn fighter in a big furball? It's almost impossible to get out of a mess of a dogfight with multiple enemies and not get damaged. What about then? Low altitude, plane barely flying. Should i turn around and die to someone diving down on me from space? I wouldn't think so. You are correct if the enemy has a chance to do something against you, but this is not true everytime. And, for realistic, there are situations where the airfield is abused. I won't deny it. And it should be fixed. However, someone should still have the ability to land and rejoin the fight. In arcade air, it's even worse due to spawncampers diving down on you from space. Yes you get an air spawn in arcade, but if someone sits at around 8 km alt, then good luck pitching up for him.

[@vicsaucey]

n o w g e t a c e i n i l - 2 8

[@skull1161]

actually happened to me yesterday, was playing the lightning f6 and i managed to make a comeback against 4 enemies, got 3 kills and the last one ran back to his base and won them the game by doing nothing, he probably would have had more rp and sl in the long run if he had just died and went to the next match or just killed me and won.

[@viruspter1dactl]

I never got killed by a vatour unless I headoned but if we went vertical I just broke off

[@niksonrex88]

I completely agree with you. Airfield AAA is the dumbest thing in this game. Even worse than the BR changes. I dont blame people for abusing it cause why not. Gaijin is the stupid one here.

[@rickyvalley]

Speaking of airfield spaa, the most ridiculous thing are pilots trying to pull you at their heli field in ground rb. Honestly they should not work until I get to play 8.3, why the hell are those AA shooting during a ww2 game

[@rb26DETTn]

you have anti air missile

[@fixit9844]

👏Only 👏go 👏for👏airfield👏when👏you’re 👏out👏of👏options👏 smh my head

[@getbrutal4388]

YES PLS MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT AA!