How Bethesda DOOMED The Future of Fallout...

[@DoktorSkipper]

erm what's your favorite fallout media? x.com/Doktor_Skipper

[@StopDropDash]

How ya doin skipper

[@BreakingBreadcrumbs]

Fallout shelter

[@DoktorSkipper]

@@StopDropDashI will eat 2 corndogs today

[@youtuvi7452]

The Muzka videos

[@redactedman]

Fortnite skins

[@Jrockk999]

"Modders will fix it" Is a statement that tells me how shit Bethesda has allowed their games to become. And people defend that statement which is wild.

[@ryanelliott71698]

It’s why I say fans are like half the reason Bethesda is the way they are. I can’t think of another company that can release buggy games at launch, but the hardcore fans will ignore it. Like as bad companies go, I think maybe EA looks less bad than Bethesda.

[@LeMicronaut]

Become? This has been an over 15 year feature/issue.

[@nathanlevesque7812]

@@ryanelliott71698 that's all of the big developers now

[@ytmld]

because people get trapped in those addictive gameplay loops, they couldn’t care less about the story. they just want a new game to get addicted too, and bethesda is their fix that they keep letting off scot free

[@darius8214]

No other games allow the same kind of freedom to remake than Bethesda.

[@AnythingForSouls]

remember todd said in interviews that his biggest regret with skyrim was " once players purchased it that was that there was no way to "interact" with players" AKA they didn't have a live service on it so they didn't make all the money I have 0 faith in elder scrolls 6 its gonna be single player but with a store or something weird like that on a 20 year old engine.

[@sabersroommate8293]

Creation club: Hello Todd

[@Passageofsky]

Yes, he also said he is upset they didn't support it longer... I.e, make more Dlc's and Creation Club (Paid Mod) content

[@imitenotbe]

people really still don't understand how engines/operating systems work lol Windows is still based on NT which is a 30 year old OS, Apples is 23 years old, Unreal is almost 30 years old. nobody is making brand new game engines anymore.

[@randomonlineuser6401]

@@imitenotbe Those systems get regularly updated and altered with new technology. What exactly is your point? that we shouldn't shit on how much the bethesda game engine sucks ass due to not being maintained or coded nearly as well?

[@im3phirebird81]

@@randomonlineuser6401 True that there are some who maintain and renew better than others, but my tech buddy once explaied to me a few years back that in a simplified way Windows is pretty much like an inverted pyramid with the bottom peak being its original form.

[@keanuortiz3766]

If bethesda made a fallout outside of america you can bet the BoS is gonna be there

[@kia540]

Because of their titles of rank right? ‘Palidin’ ‘scribe’ ‘knight’

[@ZombieGangster]

Interplay wouldve done the same exact thing if they were still around. If memory suits me right, one of their cancelled Fallout projects had you traveling from America to China with a team of BoS soldiers.

[@Zodroo_Tint]

@@ZombieGangster Nobody would have done the exact same thing what Bethesda did.

[@garret16]

@@Zodroo_Tint Yeah, youre right. Interplay was even worse than Bethesda in that regard

[@doomtrooper3184]

​@@ZombieGangster ¿The same guys who reduced the brotherhood into a practical cameo even after forcing the creator of Fallout into and out of the project and the company? Yeah, I don't think so.

[@sadandrad3842]

bethesda makes me feel insane. They could have their own new vegas or another morrowind but instead they keep these childish writers and game designers around

[@Gameprojordan]

Dumb series down to appeal to the lowest common denominators of society = more money

[@arkgaharandan5881]

it hurts so much that we never gonna get another morrowind or new vegas ever again.

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

But we may get another Daggerfall. As much as I love Morrowind, the freedom in Daggerfall is insane and LeFay and Peterson are making a successor, "The Wayward Realms".

[@LeandroSilva-du3uj]

​@@nicholasmorgan7609honestly i dont think bethesda has the hability or seer scope of making a daggerfall like there are so much things in that game that would be impossible to brought back

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

@@LeandroSilva-du3uj Bethesda *ISN'T* making a Daggerfall successor, Julian LeFay and Ted Peterson are. The Wayward Realms. Check it out.

[@calibvr]

fallout 5: featuring bottle caps in antarctica

[@amannamedsquid313]

And radscorpions and Deathclaws. Because those can totally survive in a frozen wasteland. And the BOS will be there for some BS reason.

[@SirusFIN]

@@amannamedsquid313 don't forget the supermutants

[@vitanera4032]

@@amannamedsquid313frozescorpions and iceclaws!

[@chillhour6155]

Fallout 5: we are a Destiny/Battle royal/slash hero shooter now

[@Slender_Man_186]

God, remember when Bottle caps actually had a world building explanation for why they became currency? It used to be that the water merchants in The Hub managed to get an old bottling facility back up and running and would accept the caps for a discount on the next shipment of water. By Fallout 2 this was made obsolete as the NCR dollar which was backed by gold, but between Fallout 2 and New Vegas a war between the NCR and BoS led to the NCR’s gold supply getting destroyed which meant The Hub’s water barons had all of the monetary power again.

[@minhduong1484]

The ending of Fallout 3 shows how bad Bethesda is at writing. Your character had to sacrifice themselves by entering a heavily radiated chamber to push some buttons to save the world. But the character had multiple optional companions who are radiation proof that could do that at zero risk to themselves. But no. Your character has to sacrifice. Because. . .

[@Nikkska]

Bethesda games make you almost always be a good guy, in a ROLE playing game 😢

[@ShellyDrums2]

​@@Nikkska actually at the end of fallout 3 you could get your companion fawkes to activate the water purifier instead of yourself

[@amannamedsquid313]

(Paraphrased from a comment on another video.) A baby is drowning in the lake: Fallout 1 - Ask for more information - Agree to help - Decide not to help - Accidentally say something that pisses the NPC off, failing the quest - Accidentally reveal too much information about yourself, causing the Super Mutants to track down your vault more easily Fallout 2 - Ask for more information - Agree to help - Decide not to help - Accidentally say something that pisses the NPC off, failing the quest - Pop culture reference about the baby Fallout 3 - Yes, I will save the baby - Depends on the caps - I will not save the baby - [Speech 34%] No, you save the baby - [Intelligence] The baby is drowning Fallout New Vegas - I will save the baby - I will not save the baby - [Barter 30] Double the caps and I'll save the baby - [Speech 45/45] The baby is perfectly fine (Lie) - [Medicine 30] Thanks to my medical knowledge, I will easily be able to save the baby - [Survival 15/30] Uh yeah, I totally know how to swim - [Perception] That's not a baby, it's a doll with explosives strapped to it Fallout 4 - Yes - No (Yes) - Sarcastic Yes - What's a baby? Fallout 76 -You find a holotape about a mother screaming that her baby is drowning

[@Albrecht129]

so in other words of all the fallout games series, the fallout nv has the most dialogues options of all the games

[@stikkippy1481]

Playing NV *quicksaves* Agreed to help, find kid and get them out *loads game* (Uses perception) Walks over to baby, just as a mini nuke goes off

[@RodgerSkelton]

@@Albrecht129 new vegas should have been the set standard to be built upon.

[@chillhour6155]

There should be an option to copy/quote comments, well said

[@Albrecht129]

@@RodgerSkelton honestly correct, i want some hostile agreements or hostile disagreements or just plain neutral for playing this asshole mad evil survivor who lost his whole family, a choice to become full evil or full on good

[@WahWahWeeWah]

Insane that it’s been 6 years since that ES6 teaser, and I feel depressed knowing Bethesda will blow it.

[@DominatorElite4]

I don't know Skyrim grandma will be in it

[@karlkoskie2891]

​@@DominatorElite4no one will remember skyrim grandma 10 years from now when es6 drops

[@bobolishis7]

That trailer was not for us. It was a tactic to appear more valuable to Microsoft. Games make more money then movies. Follow the dollars my friend.

[@CNM3]

That announcement was just to make themselves more appealing for a buyout from M$

[@TheVincenzoGaming]

@@karlkoskie2891 barely anyone knows skyrim grandma even now.

[@themengsk176]

Skyrim ruined Bethesda's design philosophy because it sold for 10+ years and made them lazy. They know their fans will slop it up anyway

[@handgun559]

Especially when Skyrim already has tons of flaws, and stepped backwards from Oblivion in dozens of ways. I was never the biggest fan of Skyrim and I still don't get the hype tbh. Like I can't name what people like.

[@guts4436]

Well graphics and being new​@@handgun559

[@jimjimson6208]

​@@handgun559 Skyrim has cool looking locations, a good soundtrack, and some (see: not many) of interesting quests. For a lot of people it was probably their first ever open world game. Exploring the world for the first time was fun, and I don't think the game is irredeemably bad, but my god it has problems. The writing is generally awful and in terms of both RPG systems and combat mechanics it is absolutely abysmal. Like you say, it was a step back from Oblivion, which was in turn a step backwards from Morrowind. Every Bethesda game in the past 20 years has had more things stripped away than the last. I genuinely cannot see a timeline where TES6 isn't a shallow, poorly written dumpster fire. I would be happily proven wrong, but I literally just cannot imagine Bethesda making a good game.

[@handgun559]

@jimjimson6208 I think I found how to put my thoughts on Skyrim: It's a fun game, and I can say I had fun with it, but I never want another game like it, and I don't think Skyrim is the benchmark so many RPGs should be looking at. It's a fun, buggy mess that's great to talk about, but every RPG after it should be infinitely better, and that's not a hard bar to reach.

[@jimjimson6208]

@@handgun559 well said

[@TheRoxieRose]

Microsoft can't pass Fallout to Obsidian, because then Emil would have to find a new corpse to violate 0_0

[@Pakotugudugudugudugudugudugu]

Bethesda fallout -ruins -SUPERMUTANTS (dumb, always hostile) - a few small towns with goofy themes to each of them -PROFIT

[@ttgNiqqa]

You played 3?

[@Pakotugudugudugudugudugudugu]

@@ttgNiqqa yes

[@kanyenism7528]

Fallout 3 and fallout 4 got intelligent super mutants, fallout 1 intro cutscene literally got some ruins in the background, fallout 2 made the series goofy and is the culprit you are looking for that ruined the franchise.

[@BigPanda096]

​@@kanyenism7528 tell me you don't know anything about fallouts 1 and 2 without telling me. You haven't actually played those games have you?

[@tradersblankers2931]

@@kanyenism7528 Hold up... fallout 4... has intelligent super mutants? Virgil doesn't count, give me another name.

[@TheJimPlays]

Bethesda never saved Fallout, they picked the bones of a dying giant and got away with a gem that they neither understood nor could replicate.

[@sempraviar9775]

Well said!

[@mrplaylist3759]

Say it again

[@swadow11]

sorry i dont think the people in the back or todd inside his out meatsulation pipe heard you

[@phantom.wreath]

Biblical

[@killer268]

3 is the best fallout period.

[@adankpancake]

until Emil Pagliarulo leaves bethesda, their writing is forever terrible

[@111paolo2]

The only thing I can congratulate Emil is losing the weight

[@Call_me_Jack69]

I hate that bastard so much.

[@SqualidsargeStudios]

No shite, tho leather jacket todd could also leave and make the company better.

[@czarnakoza9697]

@@SqualidsargeStudios todd isnt that bad tbh its mainly emil's fault

[@yupyeah6991]

It’s not called out enough tbh

[@rando2517]

How to make Fallout, by Todd: 1. Make wasteland 2. Put a spoon of ruins 3. Put A WHOLE TANKS OF supermutant. Lore? Who cares, am I right? 4. Profit!

[@saschaberger3212]

It just works

[@SneedRemembrancer]

5. Make sure the brotherhood of steel are there in force as a major faction

[@Thiago-uu5wc]

And the Enclave is also there, because yes!

[@Neo3151]

@@Thiago-uu5wc But only, AND I MEAN ONLY, have them as a faceless bad guy that is to be destroyed on sight and do not allow the player to interact in a good way with them no matter how much it makes sense that they should.

[@mysampleid]

There's also must be a dog in it

[@orangeishjuice8374]

The Fallout Show killed my investment in the series. It's been 200 years after the war and it feels like it's been 40 years after. All the build up and development California had from 3 games was flushed down the drain

[@aResoluteProtector]

It always felt like way less than 200 years. You really think after 200 years cities wouldn't be in complete shambles and there would be ANY sort of food or items with labels on them etc? The 200 years thing was needed to explain radiation, which in retrospect they likely hated because it limited what they could realistically do. Likewise, in every FO people still live in ramshakel shtholes and that's not realistic either. People would rebuild by then, cities would be back to normal. So yes it feels like maybe 40 years lol. That's what happens when the original devs had one vision and Bethesda had another.

[@based_space215]

The show was awful

[@WelcomeToDERPLAND]

With Bethesda's track record of dumbing down all their subsequent titles, horrific quality control and increasing mediocrity & hostility towards modders- my hope for a good fallout or elder scrolls sequel is at an all time low...

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

And still, your biggest mistake was having any hope in the first place

[@im3phirebird81]

Dude just let it go. Let them bury themselves. Little Klaus and his buddies need to make it look the way that "things just happened the way they did" without their involvement so people don't go after them in the "you will own nothing and be happy" world they envisioned. Part of the process is souring everything you ever loved so you get demoralized to a point where you voluntarily let it go.

[@MirrorMare]

Play Tamriel Rebuilt and Project Tamriel, heck, maybe even Fallouts 1-Tactics. Don't waste hope on objective mediocrity.

[@WelcomeToDERPLAND]

@@MirrorMare Lol, I havent- they have not received a single penny from me since fallout 4 dropped- and wont if they keep producing nothing but trash.

[@jvazacas]

Hostility towards modders? Lmao...what a retarded statement that is. They created a freakin kit to help modders make content. 😂😂

[@AllanScott28]

Bethesda made like 25 main quests and like 70 side quests in 16 years Obsidian made like 20 main quests & 170+ side Quests in 18 months 😂

[@americanidot55]

You realize it was much of the same team that did Oblivion? They began working on Skyrim before they were even done with Oblivion.

[@arkgaharandan5881]

morrowind has more actual content than starfield it was made only by 40 people.

[@SolantisA]

@@americanidot55 He didn't mention Skyrim, nor Oblivion... he is comparing NV to F3... Don't act like a badly programmed NPC, Bethesda might kidnap you for their next game.

[@ivoivic2448]

@@SolantisA his username checks out, even with that typo.

[@ryszakowy]

@@americanidot55 not realated to the factual statement

[@Tresskzilla]

Some claim Todd and Bethesda saved Fallout when they bought the IP from Interlude and Black Isle Studios, but if u ask me, they signed its death warrant

[@postupislilrodneysson9986]

Yeah, and the sky is blue.

[@somenubplayinggames4415]

Goated profile Picture, that album is still one of my favorites

[@klbn6]

good album pfp, good take, nuff said

[@Hi_Just_Fred]

Nah it's been pretty grey for a while. Maybe one day it'll turn red before we all die!

[@ImNotFine44]

[speech 15/75] no its totally pink dude (lie)

[@guylee9069]

Water is wet

[@nathanlevesque7812]

They haven't understood roleplaying since the Morrowind team was decimated

[@megapeebs2631]

Bethesda had the recipe for success after what New Vegas did with the role-playing but they abandoned it like how Rockstar abandoned Max Payne 3s combat mechanics. They are allergic to greatness I say

[@vitanera4032]

@@megapeebs2631Bethesda didn’t develop new Vegas, it was obsidian.

[@bickboose9364]

@@vitanera4032 Doesn't mean they couldn't learn from it.

[@DutchThriceman]

I mean at least New Vegas was pretty good.

[@aersla1731]

They wanted to appeal to a broader audience. Say what you will about BSG but ever since they dumbed down their games they have been more popular. They haven't made a good RPG since morrowind. Not to say the other game's aren't good but they are very RPG lite.

[@renztimtiman-496]

Gas lighting ppl about their “high expectations” while simultaneously taking 8 yrs to make a game that is arguably dog sht (starfield) is crazy fr.

[@alltooooohuman3961]

Bethesda and creativity are an oxymoron; they’re a risk adverse mega-corporation that will implement micro-transactions as new features.

[@AloneInThePark]

They were creative once. Morrowind for example feels absolutely magical.

[@averagemug]

You act like their micro transactions are EA levels if trash.

[@planescaped]

@@averagemug Lets not forget that Bethesda invented the trash micro transaction as we know it with Oblivion's horse armor.

[@averagemug]

@@planescaped No they didn't, horse armor was just a marketing mistake, there's a difference between that and full on EA.

[@tlrlml]

Yes, but due to the mentioned creativity issue... not even the micro-transactions are worth having.

[@tumescent]

Skyrim is a highly advanced sex animation framework that happens to include a mid fantasy rpg

[@ryszakowy]

that's.... that's actually the best way to sum up skyrim modding scene

[@Randomusername56782]

Bro your my fucking hero ngl

[@iconoclastic23]

"With Oblivion being a big step up from Morrowind" Honestly it blew my mind that anybody could sincerely hold this opinion.

[@Sithishe]

Big step for wider more casual audience. Oblivion went mainstream, and Skyrim double-down on it. I was in high school when Oblivion released, and I remember that teenagers who never played RPGs, and waere mostly CS and Quake players were very excited and wanted to check out Oblivion.

[@iconoclastic23]

@@Sithishe Yeah that's fair. I'm a bit older of a gamer, in fact my first Elder Scrolls was Daggerfall, but for me it was Morrowind that came out during my prime gaming years, and yeah it was a formative game for me. Joining House Telvanni, meeting Vivec, this stuff was over 20 years ago but feels like yesterday. I'll admit that Morrowind was a little more janky of an experience, but when I saw that as part of its charm. I remember when playing Oblivion that the main thought going through my head was how the quality of the writing was a big step down from Morrowind, and the world building was leagues less interesting. For instance, the afore mentioned house Telvanni was a clan of powerful reclusive mages who mostly just want to be left alone to conduct their research. Their homes are all grown from mushrooms and there's no stairs connecting the upper and lower sections, which means if you aren't a spellcaster at least powerful enough to cast levitate to float up and reach them in the inaccessible areas, they see you as beneath them and don't even want to talk to you. That's show-don't-tell style environmental storytelling that I don't see as much anymore

[@Sithishe]

@@iconoclastic23 Clearely you are more deep into RPG aspects. With each title RPG is gone from Bethesda games, and are more and more oriented towards CoD/Diablo audience xD

[@keanuortiz3766]

@@iconoclastic23 i found Oblivion to be one of better games to start one, just complicated enough to not be overwhelming at first, but not mind numbingly dumb as the quests in skyrim

[@namelastname1085]

Oblivion is literally my favourite Bethesda game, and one of my fav games of all time. Still play it to this day. I wish I could erase all memory of it just to experience leaving the sewers for the first time again.

[@planescaped]

When they saw that other companies, Obsidian in this case, could make a Bethesda game better than Bethesda, it scared the shit out of them. That is why we never got another New Vegas.

[@tlrlml]

Problem with your take... Obsidian (mostly former Interplay/Black Isle developers who developed the first two Fallouts) was making an Interplay/Black Isle Fallout game better then Bethesda could make a Fallout game, using the Bethesda engine, under an artificial constraint of time imposed by Bethesda!

[@namelastname1085]

I thought New Vegas was severely over-rated. More RPG elements and choices than FO3, sure... but that, and iron-sights was about the only thing it did better for me. I know it's meant to be a desert, but not only did the map feel empty but also severely lacking in details and locations. Felt way too spaced out. I thought the story and factions were awful too. The majority of the game was one massive chore for me. I honestly don't see what everyone else sees in it.

[@tlrlml]

@@namelastname1085 Maybe that they did that 18 months, when it takes Bethesda years (or decades) to create essentially the same amount of content...

[@Viking_Raven]

We really have no way to know, there is no reason to create speculation or narratives.

[@jungeezy]

@@namelastname1085that’s a fair judgment to make, and that’s Bethesda’s fault. We are owed a good RPG with strong RPG elements like New Vegas. They only gave Obsidian 18 months to make New Vegas, and we were given a tiny taste of what a good fallout game could look like. I think its shameful that Bethesda never tried to expand on the strong rpg elements ever again These days, new vegas is only good with mods. I love that game more than anything, but not even I would ever play it unmodded again. I can only hope that one day we get a proper New Vegas remake, like an actual remake - new engine, new gameplay mechanics, flesh out the Legion, make the Strip bigger, make the gunplay phenomenal, and more

[@nexus3756]

the spikes in player numbers already died out. it was tourists. people like "oh my god fallout tv show" and they went and played fallout 4. realized its shit and broken because anniversary update (console especially since theres no actual fix) and then left. the numbers are pretty much back to normal now.

[@arkgaharandan5881]

the fact the released the "next gen" patch that makes the game worse at the time the show came out instead of on halloween like they initially gonna release it so the tourists can enjoy betheda fallout in its true form is still hilarious to me.

[@nexus3756]

@@arkgaharandan5881 It really is peak Bethesda fallout.

[@nurnoir]

Similar to how original fallout 4 players were tourists from Skyrim

[@timm5362]

Amazon also gave NV and 76 to their prime members for free for a period.

[@nathansantana7055]

Actually I don't think we are down to normal numbers. Some tourists still remain and fill the gaps of die hard fans who stopped playing. Once the hype truly dies down and these tourists move on, the numbers will be even lower. I'm a console player but havent played religiously since the updates. I occasionally log in to check for new mods, but ports are a trickle these days and some mods being taken down both on skyrim and follow 4. Modders and porters interest is waining, and with mods being what's keeping these games alive, I believe bethesda is heading for a massive downfall.

[@chrisprunty5759]

Im convinced they fired every good writer at their company and have run out of notes and half finished tales they left in their desk.

[@illinoisenemabandit9209]

people seem to also forget that bethesda is responsible for the fucking microtransaction trend.

[@unfunniestman]

i thought it was valve

[@Nomisdoowtsae]

@@unfunniestman Oblivion Horse Armour showed they could make a lot of money with a fraction of the effort of full DLC

[@illinoisenemabandit9209]

@@unfunniestman horse armor... by bethesda.

[@basedggallin4556]

The dreaded fucking horse armour

[@ANUBASS]

DLC's aren't a bad thing, making 1/10th of a buggy unfinished game and releasing the actual game as DLC is the problem

[@Nazunas43]

Bethesda needs a reality check , wait a few years that they will be like 343 whit more than 50% of the Studio lay off for pure inconpetence.

[@DashingSteel]

Not gonna happen. 343 was not only everything that Bethesda is and was - it was directly ADVERTISED as "People who have Halo hired to make a Halo game". Unlike Bethesda's lying ass they never hid the fact fhat they hated Halo and it's fanbase and only started to get the boot when it was crystal clear that fans ran out of copium and cannot ignore the flaws anymore. Bethesda's biggest achievement is their PsyOp of "The game are good, actually, just need a little mods to tweak tbem" and "Bethesda cares about their fans!". I haven't seen so much copium in the air EVER IN MY LIFE as there is in the Fallout fandom after the TV Show. The fans, the content creators, the randos that just discovered the franchise via the show, they're brainwashed like a giggle of crack whores! I'm afraid Bethesda is gonna be quite prosperous for a while.

[@Viking_Raven]

Bethesda is doing well, they've been sweeping the protesting fans of the RPG genre under the carpet for 2 decades. 76 almost made them tank. But you know how the general player base still buys their games, regardless. But even then, all those NV fans and even a lot of the original fallouts stans, I can guarantee you that they still owned at some point a copy of Fallout 4, with all their critiques and everything, they still bought it.

[@jvogler_art4708]

how was new vegas so genius. i mean it was a buggy nightmare and crashed on my pc 1000 times before i modded stability into it. but it's inadvertently genius. the depth of the story is insane, even though it isn't explicitly stated to you. the tribes of new vegas and mr. house and how that weaves into your story as the courier is brilliant. also the choices of factions and the quests regarding those factions is amazing.

[@VergilNotVigil]

I abseloutely love fallout 4 but the fact that I could’ve had a fallout 4 made by obsidian? WE WERE ROBBED

[@well1012]

Still a fun game. Played it twice and hated it. Played it on Survival and now it’s one of my favorites. It’s hard. But love it for me making consider my movements. Hopefully Fallout 5 will adopt Survival mode and utilize it for a better story.

[@duckythegamer9059]

I liked the story of fallout 4 but I feel like it relied heavily on plot twists. It could have been made 100 times better if obsidian worked on it.

[@KFC_Manager]

New vegas is the real fallout 4 (or fallout 3 if your one of those NMA nerds)

[@ChemySh]

we do have Obsidian FO4, it's called Outer Worlds it's not the worst game ever, but certainly disappointing from Obsidian. I don't fully trust whatever theyre cooking nowadays

[@XxparrotBobxX]

Fallout 4 was an ok game. The story was lame and the “rpg” concepts were premature at best, which is what I think they were aiming for. I played it twice I think and never completed it once. As opposed to 3, New Vegas which I completed at least twice each.

[@dirge7459]

I know this will sound tinfoil hat, but I believe bethesda continuously dolling out random patches every few months to years is because they: 1) Want to grift modded content for money from suckers. 2) Prevent modders from releasing ground-breaking mods that upstage their writing/gameplay. I've noticed this for a decade now, because 10 years ago they weren't dolling out patches to just stifle modders, not like they are today, where the patch notes barely even make a difference and most of the patches aren't even geared for PC specific issues, let alone performance updates (the last PC specific update we got was with Skyrim Special edition way back in 2016 and that added refined mod support). I do believe that Todd is the kind of guy that absolutely hates being upstaged, and him blaming game performance on people not upgrading their machines tells me just that. He doesn't like to admit he's wrong, that he's behind the times or that they are one of the laziest studios on the planet for using such an outdated engine.

[@karlkoskie2891]

They absolutely wanna grift money out of "premium mods" but the announced the next gen patch over a year ago. The timing of the drop was a little suspicious but not out of the realm of possibility

[@arkgaharandan5881]

fallout london gave up and just used a downgrader of an old fallout 4 version so everyone can play the mod.

[@it2spooky4me79]

But do you know what an outdated engine is? Unreal could be a outdated engine, Call of Duties IW engine could be outdated? All the engines have their own gimmicks, because these 2 engines i named are basically as old as the Creation Engine, they're all just updated versions. If Bethesda switches Engines, they're going to do the same thing, it's what Bethesda Game Studios do,they like to push the engines to its limits, no matter what engine they're working on. They're too ambitious for their own good.

[@dirge7459]

@@it2spooky4me79 Yes I do, the "every engine is perfect" argument is a myth in the face that it makes everyone a retard and one person on the net some genius, which really isn't how reality works. There are good engines suitable for certain types of games and some that are just not a good fit, then there are those that just cannot keep up or handle too much going on, or even spaz out, and yes, we're humans, that happens a lot. No engine is perfect, there is no such thing as perfection, please for the love of god, stop perpetuating that engines are godlike and the guys making them are the tards, both of them have faults. So damn tired of the engine stans, like really tired.

[@BrandonDenny-we1rw]

​@@it2spooky4me79 talk to any modder and they will complain about the engines design

[@Nebelkorona]

Saddest part is that's also true for Elder Scrolls, with Morrowind being the last actual RPG. But people don't really care.

[@SolantisA]

Considering how shit the Creation Kit actually is... No wonder their games are so bugged... while at the same time, it makes modders look even more competent than you'd actually realise.

[@LecherousLizard]

I dabbled in personal modding in Morrowind and Oblivion and I can guarantee you: They are doing it on purpose. In Morrowind the Construction Set was easy and robust enough that you could make a mod in 5 minutes. Oblivion was already noticeably harder to mod and with Skyrim some modders outright gave up on moving their shit to Fallout 4, because they knew it wouldn't be any easier.

[@carlosleyva-calistenia6400]

@@LecherousLizard Facts. As a Skyrim modder, I'm tired of explaining people why and how Skyrim isn't as easy to mod as they think , only for fanboys who don't know what they're talking about telling me modding other games is even harder 🙄

[@LecherousLizard]

@@carlosleyva-calistenia6400 Yup. In Morrowind I made some pretty elaborate mods for myself and one which I wanted to, but ultimately never made public. Similarly in Oblivion I made myself a house in a nice location that didn't have any houses made by others. In Skyrim I opened the Totally-Not-Construction-Kit, looked around it for like 5 minutes, went "Nah", closed it and never looked at it again. It's honestly enough that Papyrus is one huge memory leak by the virtue of existing, imagine actually using it. And in the end you still need a script extender, so there's no actual difference over TESscript that pre-Skyrim NetImmerse games used.

[@Karter_Blackpaw]

The problem with modern Fallout is that Bethesda is literally too afraid to let the world change and move on. For some bizarre reason they seem dead-set on wanting it to be this stagnant silly apocalyptic franchise that doesn't want to move past the bombing of the world (200+ years ago) and wants to just revel in playing in trash, bomb craters and buildings that will never be repaired.

[@PeterDarkmoor]

That's a unaware take. That's the WHOLE point of Fallout the world is frozen after the bombs dropped. That is one of the core elements of it and what makes Fallout, Fallout. If you want a world to be rebuilt after a apocalypse then there are other games with that focus.

[@Karter_Blackpaw]

@@PeterDarkmoor Isn't that a bit contradictory when we had 1, 2, and New Vegas showing the world moving on, growing, and changing? Shady Sands grew and expanded till it had become a massive empire controlling the California region and bleeding into the surrounding states. This in the course of less than a century. Contrast that to 3 and 4 where the world is still stuck unable to form communities, cities, regional powers, and can't even get a new building made. Instead they seem complicit enough to just build a shanty town inside a baseball stadium 200 years later while a functioning city with power, water, and roads is but a stone toss over the wall.

[@PeterDarkmoor]

@@Karter_Blackpaw Shady Sands came from a GECK. In FO1,2,NV sure SOME semblance of society reformed, but most people are still living in ruined buildings. There is no massive infrastructure projects being done aside from limited repairs to some existing buildings in NCR as you see in the flashbacks in FO4. But nothing is close to the pristine pre-war condition.

[@PeterDarkmoor]

@Eikuza 76 doesn't count. I am talking FO1,2,NV,FOT. the games, themes made by the original devs. BGS NuFallout is fine for what it is but it's clear BGS has no idea of what the soul of FO is or was.

[@BasedBebs]

@@PeterDarkmoor Every single Fallout game that Bethesda didn't work on showed two things: 1. Factions rising and falling in an endless cycle 2. The world advancing Between Fallout 1 and 2 we see the wasteland go from small towns with a few settlements with ~25 people living in them to towns everywhere and several cities with hundreds or thousands of residences (lore-wise not what's shown in game). They establish trade, currency, jobs, politics, militaries, everything you need to call yourself a country. In New Vegas we see factions start to crumble, the Brotherhood, once the most powerful faction in the wasteland usurped by the NCR, which is also starting to reach the limits of it's power. Just because the factions die doesn't mean everyone spontaneously forgets how to be civilized and just goes back to being raiders. Hell look at real-world civil wars (closest thing we have to compare to Fallout). The major power is challenged, there is temporary anarchy, then a new power is established and order is slowly restored until a new faction shows up and repeat endlessly. The line 'war never changes' is referring to the factions / people, not the world. That's the 'whole point' of Fallout. Not the 1950's retrofuture world that was nuked. It's a POST-apocalypse game, the apocalypse isn't the focus, what comes AFTER is.

[@cratecruncher4974]

I'm not convinced Obsidian could make another good Fallout game. Outer Worlds writing was pretty cringe worthy.

[@GoodBad-l8g]

Because everybody thinks of companies instead of the people working in those companies. The people that made fallout are done making games.

[@Kyrus86]

Watching the current situation with Avowed, I'd say you're completely correct.

[@JohnWarhammer]

The only reason to play a modern Bethesda title is to mod the fuck out of it so you can play a better game on the scaffold they made with their bad game. I prefer to just play other games.

[@JRexRegis]

Aye, there's a reason why Skyrim's best mods are either whole game overhauls (like Requiem) or set their adventures in entirely new areas completely divorced from the original game (like Enderal). Pretty much everyone I know that has the game on PC adds *AT LEAST* 20 mods just to make it playable and fun - the unofficial patch, an ENB for visuals, some manner of combat, perk, magic and enemy overhauls, a difficulty mod that changes the dogwater "difficulty" system from vanilla, etc etc. Speaks volumes that you can just pick up Morrowind or New Vegas or even Fallout 3 and have a good time, but Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 4 need mods to be playable.

[@LifeEnjoyer-jo6yb]

@@JRexRegismy guy, Skyrim is a good and fun base game. The problem with Skyrim entirely lies in the fact that the modding community being so accessible and large, it’s become more popular than the base game. Skyrim itself is an awesome game. Sure there are a few glitches, but it’s not unplayable.

[@StarScream_47]

Bethesda has been on a downward spiral for a long time now. Todd is nothing more than a talentless forced meme.

[@ogsimpson969]

My biggest gripe with Starfield isn’t the lack of gameplay or the bugs or the fact that it got delayed so many times, it’s the fact that it made the next fallout game come out in like 2038

[@Super_Seaton]

Each game Bethesda makes is worse than the last.

[@justinland1208]

I tried to think of a counter point but you’re right.

[@AloneInThePark]

Because each release edges their games more and more towards action adventure rather than rpg. Look at starfield. Basically no choice even simple merchants can't die.

[@arkgaharandan5881]

people say skyrim is better than oblivion but because oblivion was so bad i never played skyrim.

[@overlordoftemi7255]

@@arkgaharandan5881 oblivion isn't bad! it's buggy, yes. But it has impeccable quest design!

[@MrSpartan993]

Yup.

[@Theoxuesu]

I just wish fallout was more of a RPG game instead of an action adventure with light roleplay elements. My biggest wish for Fallout is to take some inspiration from traditional crpg's like Baldurs gate 3, Pathfinder, and the Divinity: Original Sin series.

[@Valkod23]

A traditional cRPG these days is Underrail.

[@amannamedsquid313]

@@Valkod23 Love Underrail. Brutal but very fun and the writing is very good.

[@34elusive]

Some inspiration? Dude, they literally have New Vegas in their franchise and it blows all of what you recommended in terms of player agency and role playing. All they have to do is copy and improve some of its formula.

[@AloneInThePark]

Just give fallout to larian

[@barfrodgers1202]

Or idk maybe even some crazy source of inspiration like.. uhh.. Fallout

[@OhHiMark2004]

Obsidian Entertainment (Black Isle Studios) should have full control over Fallout. It's their baby. Bethesda never really understood the world of Fallout.

[@EllisWolf]

I felt like I agreed on the entire video up until the half, where it started to feel like you became misdirected by the online usual rethoric of blaming Todd for everything without looking at the deeper picture. At no point I saw mention of Emil Pagliarulo's design philosophy that came about from fucking up the design document for Fallout 3, how the company that made FO76 is not the main Bethesda team, but rather, a B-team that pulled all the stops to try and drill into the spaghetti code they were given and actually managed to make FO76's engine somewhat stable. That alone is a feat (regardless of game content) that Bethesda Maryland wouldn't even bother with. I didn't see how the company has an insanely low new hire retention rate, how people come and go and the technicians capable of reprogramming the engine are long gone, how each employee essentially does the best they can with what they have and know, because the company prides itself on improvizing without a centralized documentation database (courtesy again, of Emil), that includes not just design but also technical specs on how to wrangle the engine. So short of fixing it, Bethesda duct tape extensions onto it as stopgap solutions (Fallout 4's UI/HUD is an emulated Shockwave Flash player, for instance!). The notion that modders do a better job than Bethesda critically comes from modders at least having multiple centralized wikis to coordinate knowledge from. Blame Emil for making this taboo at Bethesda. I also saw at no point mention of Robert Atlman, the late CEO, who signed that investment deal with the Providence Inc. Banking corporation that proudly advertised Zenimax/Bethesda on their website, for maxing out income for the next 5 years starting 2015, which explains all of the weird maximized profit bollocks we've seen Bethesda do with their games and owned IPs (hello, Wolfenstein 2, hello Youngblood, hello Doom Eternal, hello paid mods, etc), because Zenimax would therefore get a stock market permit with a higher rank on opening day, depending on their performance. That deal fell under and soon after, Atlman died and Microsoft conveniently waited the end of that publicly known contractual probation period to snipe an acquisition out of them. I think your video is pretty great on many points, but it really does feel like at some point you stopped carrying out your own analysis and started to parrot (no pun intended) the same overcooked and convenient good-vs-evil talking points people love to regurgitate online without looking at the whole crime scene.

[@Gun_Metal_Grey]

i was about to write this until i saw your comment. You are exactly, 100% right. Look, New Vegas is mt favourite game ever. I also adore Fallout 3, love Fallout 4 despite its lack of endings which i really disliked and all things considered, i found Fallout 76 to be mostly enjoyable experience with maybe few quests being grindy and boring to me (looking at you main questline + Skyline Valley) and i also agree that Emil's writing leaves so much room for improvement. BUT this backwards tribalism of new-age New Vegas fans just baffles. While i agree Starfield is not quite a game everybody had envisioned to game, these crybabies bash Bethesda as being this "invisible haters of New Vegas, a boogeyman like the Institute from Fallout 4" What a pathetic bunch of losers, i can also say the same in the polar opposite, where there are people gatekeeping Bethesda Fallouts and telling that New Vegas and classics are not even "good games. These people can't even grasp the single concept of letting people enjoy their favourite Fallout. It matters not if you enjoy New Vegas, 3; 4 and/or 76 exclusively, just be happy they exist, man. Fallout fans themselves are the biggest haters of Fallout and its fans and that's sad to look at.

[@billjacobs521]

@@Gun_Metal_Grey "These people can't even grasp the single concept of letting people enjoy their favourite Fallout." This right here is the pathetic loser take; "Oh no, someone is pointing out objective flaws in a game--WHY WON'T YOU ALLOW ME TO LIKE THIS??!?!?!?" Like, you're so insecure in your own tastes that you flip out and attack anyone who doesn't agree with you. I like some deeply flawed games myself, and I will defend that on the grounds that I enjoy the good parts while being able to get over the bad parts, but I won't deny there are substantial problems--you need to grow up and stop lashing out at people for not giving you asspats at all times.

[@EllisWolf]

@@billjacobs521 What's this even about? If you (or anyone for that matter), want a case where a game series is truly doomed, look no further than Rockstar's publisher killing off the ability to purchase the classic versions of GTA3/VC/San andreas in order to force people to buy an inferior remaster coded by a half competent team. Long as people can buy the games of a series, it lives on. Stripping the ability for new people to experience a classic, or any opus of a franchise, is what kills it. I love the Stargate TV shows, for example, and the constant chaotic shuffling of ownership right claims from MGM, Amazon, Tencent and whoever else, broke the airing rights apart, and has rendered the chances of newcomers enjoying Stargate SG1/Atlantis/Universe close to nil. That's how you also fuck up a franchise. Just to give some perspective, I hope.

[@Gun_Metal_Grey]

@@billjacobs521 its ok little bro, let your repressed feelings out, venting helps a lot

[@DanielJensB]

You should double check the credits on FO76, the main team did make it. There was a gas-lighting campaign to convince you otherwise, but there's a reason it took them so long to get Starfield out, everyone was working on FO76 for years

[@HYDEinallcaps]

Fun fact: In Korea, a game dev studio called Project Moon got its headquarters stormed by people calling themselves the Reverb Ensemble, named after a faction from Library of Ruina, PM's second game. They went in, made some demands, and PM actually kowtowed. Now, I'm not saying we should assemble a group calling itself, I dunno, Caesar's Legion, and storm Bethesda's HQ in order to save Fallout, Doom, and so many other franchises they ruined, but somebody really should do that.

[@MLPDethDealr32]

We should call the group The ENCLAVE and show up in Power Armor.

[@danielvidmar5519]

How did they ruined DOOM

[@HYDEinallcaps]

@@MLPDethDealr32 Some of the Reverb Ensemble actually did show up cosplaying Library of Ruina characters, funny enough!

[@HYDEinallcaps]

@@danielvidmar5519 Turning it into a Halo clone and pinata simulator instead of, you know, an actual fucking Doom game.

[@danielvidmar5519]

@@HYDEinallcaps I didn't play halo but for sure DOOM 2016 and Eternal are much more fast paced than halo,I don't see problem with it,doom was always arcadey excpet DOOM 3,also idsoftworks are main developers and they also made wolfenstein which is also great shooter and I wish they would have more influence on fallout combat as it is one dimensional.

[@Ghosts_of_Gaming21]

Emil and Todd, need to just leave Bethesda. We’d get the best fallout we’ve had in less than 5 years, we’d have the best writing we’ve had, and the best new games. Todd is just terrible, and Emil’s writing is just disgraceful

[@Sumoniggro]

Troika offered to buy the fallout IP from interplay so saying Bethesda saved fallout is misleading, fallout wasn't in any danger there was a much better RPG making studio willing to buy the IP, I'm sure Obsidian would have also put their hat in the race to buy the IP too if they could have secured a fund for it.

[@averagemug]

Obsidian didn't exist yet last time I checked. And at the time, Bethesda was a top dog RPG studio, still are really despite Microsoft and Zenimax trying to run the studio into the ground.

[@Sumoniggro]

@@averagemug Obsidian entertainment was founded in 2003, Bethesda bought the fallout IP in 2007, but Obsidian was just a fledgling studio with only two games under their belt (KotOR 2 and NWN 2) by that time while Bethesda had over a decade of experience and game development, had already gone through 2 potential bankruptcies and throughout their growing catalog had 2 games released that were not only critically acclaimed but also completely innovative and revolutionary for their time, which remain to this day 2 of the best RPGs ever made, those being Daggerfall and Morrowind. Bethesda doesn't make RPGs anymore, they haven't arguably since Oblivion, but definitely since fallout 3, they make immersive action-adventure/looter-shooter games with some RPG elements, the same level of RPG elements that call of duty has at this point. Their writing and storytelling have gone completely down the drain, the fixation on not limiting the player based on decisions while on the surface seems great has actually lead to a less meaningful and thus a less impactful game, nevermind the overuse of essential NPCs which devolves into overt handholding, while the accidental soft locking of progression through the death of NPCs like what could happen in Morrowind may be frustrating, and while I understand that the more intricate and indepth the npc pathing and routine cycles became the more necessary the essential tag became to stop necessary NPCs from walking off a cliff to their deaths, or pathing into a hostile npc and getting slaughtered half way across the world away from you locking your progression through no fault of your own, it just seems like a lazy fix and is immensely immersion breaking when you lay into an annoying npc only to watch them stand back up like nothing happened.

[@Nomisdoowtsae]

But would it have died with Troika then? Much as I love Bloodlines a lot of their final work was horribly buggy. Bloodlines shipped with a game breaking bug and Temple of Elemental Evil was just plain unfinished.

[@Sumoniggro]

@@Nomisdoowtsae In hindsight certainly but if they did get the fallout IP perhaps if Cain, Anderson and Boyarsky got a hold of their baby then they wouldn't have decline, perhaps they would have been reinvigorated and refocused, they wouldn't have needed to even make bloodlines, instead we would get a fallout 3 that is on par with arcanum.

[@akv-e5t]

@@Nomisdoowtsae it certainly would not have been a hit with consoles.

[@spagelsmegal]

I don’t want a fallout new Vegas 2 I want van buren

[@MrN0where]

Fr

[@Anonymous09876-b]

Same

[@mysampleid]

Bring Chris Avellone back

[@arkgaharandan5881]

i mean, there is alot of stupid parts in van buren, i want fallout texas with cars and cowboys and dark tone.

[@bickboose9364]

And you've got it. _New Vegas _*_is_*_ Van Buren._

[@FirestormFrontier]

RIP my childhood. For the next coming generation, we're sorry in advance

[@AnythingForSouls]

you can tell NV is still top dog because hardly anyone goes back to 3 but people still create stuff stuff for NV people have overhauled the game to make it work and we get like 20 skyrim remakes but we cant get a NV remake to just make it work better on modern hardware dont even need a visual update just make it work without mods and it would sell like mad but they clearly are so mad that the subcompany blew them outta the water they pretend it doesnt exist hell they even recently dropped a tunnel snakes motorbike jacket patch so they will still make merch from 3 but wont go near NV and its sad.

[@Gabe_-pw7xv]

You can literally get an NCR ranger armor outfit in 76

[@mr_me0ws0me]

@@Gabe_-pw7xv and?

[@KiddRyzeDaGawd]

People play 3 thru TTW.

[@Anonymous09876-b]

​@@Gabe_-pw7xv your point? (You don't have one)

[@AnythingForSouls]

@@Gabe_-pw7xv not what i meant like the actual merch store has basically nothing for new vegas last thing i remeber was a poker set and its awful the cards are the same picture they didn't even make like each suit a thing. But they are still making merch for fallout 3 which in every way is a worse game and older.

[@cryptthrasher2213]

Insert recent Indigo video and for anyone that knows the slightest about the IP. Bethesda didn't save S#@%. It's more Interplay ran themselves into the ground and subsequently had to cancel Fallout Van Buren. Had Bethesda not bought Fallout it could have very well ended up in Troika's hands.

[@Narcian150]

I hate how they are holding the Fallout IP hostage. How can you see something like New Vegas and not learn anything. It is fine that they spend over a decade fucking up their own IPs like Starfield and ES, but then give Fallout back to actually competent game designers and writers who are in your same mother company. Both Obisidian and Inxile Entertainment are under MS, you can basically completely resurrect Interplay and Fallout with those ingredients if you tell Bethesda to piss off.

[@platypusnoise]

Some great Fallout news, Fallout London is officially out

[@ryszakowy]

and requires another version of failout 4 and is optimized just like very bethesda game

[@tlrlml]

Wait... Bethesda is working on a nerf...

[@MrReaperofDead]

I've got to keep saying this. I don't want a Fallout tv show. I don't want Fallout merchandise. I don't want a Fallout MMO. All I want, is literally just Fallout 5. That's all I want. Fallout 5, and Elder Scrolls 6, without waiting half my life for the game to drop. It's like they don't speak English at Bethesda. Are they even human? They could all be aliens.

[@Gameprojordan]

I miss when Fallout merch were custom made passion project props by fans

[@melon-qm7ed]

id rather have more tv show because i already know fallout 5 will be exactly the same as fallout 4 but even worse. that or have literally anyone else make the game

[@barfrodgers1202]

That's the problem, they are human. Todd Howard probably sees himself as the savior of a franchise he once admired. Now that BGS has reached the end of their potential, they've hit a plateau and they know that to invest the time needed to make a decent FO5 they'll be left in the dust by the rest of the industry. FO5 will be Skyrim with guns pt.2 and it'll be 10 years in the future and every other game will be miles beyond them in tech.

[@LifeisGood762]

I do be liking that other stuff tho

[@travismusser7409]

I want new Vegas two should have been the title of this video. And we all do honestly... Or fallout5 yea. Proper RPG

[@aaronwhite1297]

The success of Skyrim is ultimately what doomed Bethesda itself. They found so much success with one game and then rehash its formula with every following game that they develop, each having lower and lower rating than the last.

[@Nix-Man]

Never forget what Bethesda/Zenimax did to Human Head Studios

[@bickboose9364]

They're paying for it, but very slowly, _I think..._

[@pkheartbreak]

Fellow NV supremacist here. Some really good points you make , but I do think it's a bit reductive to pin quite so much direct blame solely onto Toddy, or any singular face in a group. Like , ofc he has had an outsized role in those decisions to keep the IP's on ice instead of maximizing their potential, but in reality these decisions are hardly made in a vacuum and rarely the result purely of a single man's ego-stroking. If we replaced Tod, would we really expect Bethesda to bevahe so differently to now ? I think it's kinda the same for those who are like "Emil is the devil" and believe that the whole of Starfield's writing woes are due to the incomprehensible incompetence of this single developer.

[@billjacobs521]

But Emil is the head writer, who has made the conscious choice to abandon design documents and just not care about lore. He's admitted it. I don't see why we shouldn't blame him for bad writing. As for Todd, I can't say--he's the mouthpiece but I don't know how powerful he really is.

[@pkheartbreak]

@@billjacobs521 I don't mean to suggest that there's no fault to be had , especially if you're lead of your team - but in his case there are still other game design and production requirements that inform the math a lead or team leader might make. I'm only as informed as a outsider can be with respect to internal power dynamics, operations, culture, hierarchy , or whatever else at Beth that might count towards that math. Which is why I'm always hesitant to just point and say this particular person is the sole cause of the thing I like sucking. Because usually its more complex than that. Like, if they replaced Emil, can we really posit that we'd get better writing ? Why ? Clearly in SF's case , it was a poor call to disregard any sort of conventional narrative documentation that may have helped in making a more cohesive narrative - at the same time I would find it doubtful that Emil himself as Lead Writer AND Design Director could conceivably be the sole cause for SF's issues. He was probably in Google meetings more often than he ever wrote. If , hypothetically , Emil didn't respect or cherish the input of his subordinate team members, was then replaced with someone with the same issue of not listening, it could then be argued that its a company culture issue rather than a strictly Emil issue. When it comes to Todd its the same thing. Yes, you're the CD and its your ship to captain, but at the same time CD's aren't kings and require the cooperation and support of their team to make anything happen. People who may have differing interests, motives, philosophies, or whatever else. All I'm saying is that blaming any single person for the debilitating issues facing a massive multi-whateverillion dollar, several-hundred person strong company is kinda naïve and ignoring that projects like Bethesda are not small indie studios and don't function like one.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

jesus you talk like a person who would draw himself as his profile pic

[@pkheartbreak]

@@MGrey-qb5xz very astute

[@kosmati4569]

@@pkheartbreak No nuance allowed, see? Gotta kiss.

[@seedywriter]

Bethesda fans' ability to constantly gaslight themselves truly astonishes me.

[@lucklin7821]

I may be on the clock, but ive got an appointment with the Doc...ter Skipper

[@DoktorSkipper]

Hard

[@souljaknilch]

Don‘t forget to put on your DIOR DIOR jacket

[@KamiThulak]

Hold it Skipper, those are a lot of words to say "Bethesda bad".

[@great2831]

Is he wrong do...

[@jacksobrooks]

They'll say you used too many words, but they'll never say you lied.

[@Anonymous09876-b]

And?

[@ryszakowy]

well therer's no words to say "bethesda good" because that would be a lie

[@Jono_McK]

Sales don't mean much, the gaming industry is much, much bigger than it used to Salesbe so of course sales numbers are bigger than they used to be. Doesn't mean the newer games are better....

[@ectothermic]

People like the Fallout show? I thought it was hilariously misunderstanding the franchise.. then again so does its own developer.

[@Tiner-was-Real]

as a show it was good, but as a fallout show it was really bad, and its popular because most of viewers of the show don't know anything about pervious fallouts ... in short theyre tourists

[@vaengr2695]

@@Tiner-was-Real its not even good as a show. terrible pacing and world building, just member berries and juvenile slapstick violence with 50's music in the background

[@bradchadley668]

@@Tiner-was-Realstrongly disagree. I’m a big fallout fan and loved the show. It captures the tone perfectly imo

[@Lasikisal]

Nah the show's good take off the hate boner glasses But it's sad to think the best Fallout product we've gotten in forever wasn't even a game lol

[@NikolaAvramov]

There's just one thing, SKipper: Chris Avellone, the genius behind Fallout 2, Van Buren and Fallout New Vegas has been robbed by Obsidian leadership. If Bethesda's a dead husk... so is Obsidian.

[@Sumoniggro]

Obsidian and Bethesda are one in the same, skin walkers wearing the flesh of the game studio we fell in love with but in reality are nothing remotely similar to the Obsidian that made FNV, KotOR 2, NWN 2, pillars of eternity and to a lesser extent South Park the stick of truth and dungeon siege 3, nor is the Bethesda that made Daggerfall and Morrowind RPGs that were critically acclaimed, were absolutely ahead of their time and are still 2 of the best RPGs to ever have been made, all the ogs that created the world of tamriel and the history of TES are long gone, Todd Howard prompted Emil and everything has been garbage since, Oblivion was the last game to avoid Emil's lead writer/lead director mindlessness that has lead to the decline in writing and consistency where a single game will contradict itself in terms of lore, characters or the coherence the the world itself.

[@NikolaAvramov]

​@@Sumoniggro I seriously suspect that Emil was somehow forced onto Howard. Somehow. Like - he's some big shot's nephew or something.

[@Sumoniggro]

@@NikolaAvramov they are longtime friends, it is nepotism but it is Todd Howard helping his buddy out. I honestly think Todd thinks Emil is actually good at what he does.

[@overlordoftemi7255]

*cough* Joshua Sawyer *cough*

[@bickboose9364]

Anything is better than Bethesda. Also, people think Obsidian's another bad studio because The Outer Worlds was mediocre. But, that game didn't have Sawyer, even as consultant. I'd give Obsidian another shot at Fallout with him at the helm.

[@jacque2874]

Obsidian had so little time to make new vegas and yet its still better than anything bethesda has put out ever since

[@deangregoric4735]

Lets be real NV is such over hype even tho is just dlc for fo3. Hyping NV like its some marvel of fo its nothing more delusional than saying Bethesda makes amazing games. Don't believe me? then I have just two words for you… “outer worlds”

[@great2831]

In the gaming wasteland that is modern "rpg" games, one.thing you can know for sure, is that Bethesda, Bethesda never changes.

[@akv-e5t]

Fallout New Vegas devs were using ideas from the original fallout 3 project, from when interplay owned the rights.They also worked on Fallout 2, they knew fallout in and out. That is why it's so different than Bethesda Fallout, because it is a direct continuation of the original games. Bethesda made elder scrolls: fallout, what they knew how to make, and catered it to consoles because that's where the money was. If you think about it, Bethesda only ever makes elders scrolls games with different skins and more mainstream appeal.

[@FidelIsaacVargas]

Basically New Vegas IS Fallout 3

[@tlucas7031]

That's the thing- Fallout 1, 2, and NV are a story arc. Specifically, the story of how the NCR rebuilt civilization after the war. And Bethesda didn't like that, so they had Amazon wipe it out off screen so they could make more post-apocalypse themed Skinner boxes.

[@bwillsskates2638]

Also, Ubisoft makes the same game and reskins it and changes it from 3rd person to 1st person lol. They’re exactly like Bethesda lmao

[@falaflani4831]

@@tlucas7031 u are absolutely right. even todd admitted in interviews that the writers decided to nuke shady sands to add a twist at the end ( classic bethesda ) and coz it would give the show a more apocalyptic feel. instead of well ADDING A PLOT POINT THAT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE IN THE LORE. That speech by Emil where he revealed that they do not have developer documnetation to keep track of ideas now seems plausible. coz what they did to Sinclair and House is a traversty

[@1Slo5ooh]

@@FidelIsaacVargasbingo

[@bsos6839]

>ruining fallout lmfao. it's been fucking ruined dude. for more than a decade at this point

[@Wierie_]

Nice vid, you managed to make me watch to the end on a topic that has been beaten to death at this point.

[@bansheebacklash3730]

I watched the fallout show and while I overall really enjoyed it, I was REALLY unhappy with them nuking Shady Sands (spoilers). It felt super disrespectful to the origin of the series. Almost like it was done out of spite. I'm not exactly enthusiastic for the future of the franchise anymore. Seems like they just want to commericalize the fuck out of it.

[@RandallBalls]

supposed to say spoilers before the spoilers

[@Rexhunterj]

I'm two episodes in and while it's good filler content, better than most of the mainstream TV trash these days, it's absolutely not a fallout show made for fans, just like the halo show wasn't for halo fans either. There's so many different things to gripe about in just two episodes that it's unbearable. I'll nitpick on the biggest thing of all: The brotherhood. They just cannot let those guys be what they are supposed to be, always gotta make them into jackasses and religious freaks. You can see the real vision for them in Fallout NV and the first two games

[@237Kristal]

Bethesda created Skyrim with guns, not Fallout. Only fallout containing product.

[@jayporter1981]

Wouldn't it be amazing if we got a Fallout game with Characters/Story as in depth and quality as Cyberpunk 2077 on a modern day game engine? I know this will never happen. Especially if Bethesda is making the game. But a guy can dream, right?

[@spaceacepl4636]

at this point it's probably a pipe dream

[@tylerbacoka4248]

@@jayporter1981 cyberpunk was terrible I'm pretty sure anyone can match that...

[@UmadDrnkCaffeine]

I can't stop imaginening a team up between obsidian the old obsidian devs and BGS on greating New Vegas 2 or just remastering new vegas with all the content that was wanted by the devs got added. That's sadly only gonna be a dream since BGS is greedy

[@mrkiiprototype2938]

Hire all of OG black isle and let them cook for the love of god

[@xxillusivemanxx1046]

Bet Todd is jealous of Fallout London

[@Whoyouwishyouwere]

We won't go quietly, Bethesda can count on that.

[@GiantTalkingTree]

I miss the days when game devs actually gave a crap about lore and keeping it accurate.

[@Dino9474]

I may be not home, but that doesn’t mean I can’t listen to DoktorSkipper on the way home.

[@Eon_Kain]

Fallout London releases and a Doktor Skipper video about Fallout on the same day? About to celebrate with r34 based.

[@xzombieeffectx2611]

It’s wild that Bethesda gets away with releasing games in buggy messy and unplayable states

[@giguyjoe]

0:15 Okay so let me stop you riiiight there. Fallout was not saved by Bethesda. In fact before Bethesda bought Fallout, not only was there was new title in the works (Project Van Buren), but Troika Games (Of Arcanum and Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines fame) were looking to take the IP off of Interplay's hands prior.

[@HeyHiHowdy6969]

You’re just wrong. Bethesda bought Fallout in 2007. Van Buren was cancelled in 2003 in favor of Brotherhood of Steel.

[@ghostly8846]

Because War..... war never changes...

[@theodderotter6635]

Because Bethesda..... Bethesda never changes

[@ryszakowy]

bethesda single handedly changed war

[@b3nzayizkoolyo]

If Bethesda Fallout taught me anything, it's that sales mean shit cause people will gobble up literal shit so long as the surface leve aesthetic matches their pre-concieved notion of what something is supposed to look like

[@davaday4786]

This video should be titled "why new vegas is the best game and im not biased at all"

[@jonathanpeterman3146]

real

[@ryszakowy]

or "why bethesda hasn't made a single good game since morrowind and mentally dead people can't accept that"

[@vittoriovenetov9655]

@@ryszakowy oblivion was fire aint even gonna lie

[@graygoldman9655]

If you took the gunplay and customization of Fallout 4 with the story and roleplay of Fallout New Vegas. That would be the perfect game

[@bickboose9364]

Maybe the customization, but the gunplay is terrible in Fallout 4.

[@ryszakowy]

no, customization in failout 4 is the worst a list of scopes for a rifle - for example there's like 7 options and only 3 models first 3 scopes give only one small buff next 3 scopes give two small buffs third the best scope gives two stronger buffs obviously you are going to always use the last one or use the best available and then craft the best one that's mmo system rinse and repeat for every gun part and every weapon in game nev wegas doesn't fucka round with pointless shit you want a silencer or not you want a bigger mag or not and entire crafting system in failout 4 is completely worthless since neither guns nor armor have to be repaired

[@bazzy5644]

If the Fallout 4 New Vegas Mod ever sees the light of day that is what we will be getting years down the line.

[@sebastienholmes548]

​@@bickboose9364and new vegas is better?

[@bickboose9364]

@@sebastienholmes548 You can actually cripple enemies and they you, destroy their guns, toss grenades in VATS, skills exist and matter in combat. Yeah, NV is better and with a few mods you can make it perfect.

[@longswanson9458]

Very sad, I grew up with this series and had no idea what bs was happening behind the scenes...

[@nickelakon5369]

Bethesda did not save fallout, thats revisionist history. During the end days of black isle they meddled with their products and strung them along to get more money from them, then after that they let them pour money and time into making a game with no intention of allowing them to release it. If this sounds familiar, this is also what bethesda did to human head, the studio that made the original Prey.

[@goatskin4487]

I like that you tuned down the adhd editing

[@MegaMackproductions]

the problem I have is that the recent entries are formulaic and boring. ITs stale because bethesda is afraid to take risks.

[@JeraltStonehart]

I would’ve loved an Elder Scrolls spinoff from the New Vegas team

[@bazzy5644]

From what I hear Enderal is a better RPG on the Skyrim engine. But it's also set in it's own world so there isn't exactly much conenction to TES in terms of lore and world in it.

[@PuppyPlimby]

@@bazzy5644 i tried playing it and it was mostly just people yapping on for hours having more RPG elements is great and all but you need to actually make the game fun to play as well

[@KimKhan]

Bethesda never saved Fallout. They skinned the corpse, and paraded the mannequin around.

[@1321-k6h]

No they saved it from being left in the dirt after Van Buren was canned.

[@DrFudge-ky5ub]

@@1321-k6h They were just the highest bidder, multiple companies wanted the IP at the time, notably including Troika. The IP would have been "saved" regardless, and Fallout 3 sold well simply because Bethesda was a big company who already made games like Morrowind and Oblivion. Never believed that pure popularity is what indicated the quality of a franchise (in that case, all the COD games, NBA2K, and FIFA games would be considered masterpieces on sales numbers alone).

[@ghostops4022]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@DrFudge-ky5ublook I’m not in support for Bethesda but without them we will never get New Vegas to begin with as for Troika I think they closed down a while back so even if they did got it the fallout ip they are still going to get shutdown so fallout ip will be in an different kind of mess the legal kind.

[@ryszakowy]

@@1321-k6h better dead and remembered by 500 people than marketed for thousands and dead on arrival they didn't save it they ruined it

[@zoltanz288]

@@ghostops4022 methesda did not make NV.

[@vladislavohremenco3472]

What I hate the most about fallout 4, is how they recently updated the game so the xbox x/s series are optimized and now the old gen xbox one can't even run it because it's been cranked up to eleven and as soon as you go anywhere near boston inner city, say goodbye to your game since it will completely freeze on you. They basically broke my game for the new console. Man, fuck consoles and Todd for fuckin up fallout. Nah 'cause, how you gon tell me you are honna optimize my game for a console i don't have like I don't even own it? Bruh, hello? Now I have to mod this game to get rid of a bunch of stuff like grass, shadows and other little things just so I can run it. From now on, i'ma pirate every game yall bring out since ''buying is not owning'' BS.

[@Overlord367]

Dude this is just video games and media in general.not to be cruel but it will shift back when they crumble or someone else gets control of it.same with Disney and everything else.it’s a part of life new people get used to it. 1:01

[@scotth4713]

I still play New Vegas. I don't play 76. And if any of that shitty show is in the next Fallout, they'll loose me as a customer.

[@agenttxgaming4409]

Honestly Bethesda games have become such an embarrassment they need to be careful in what year they release them in, considering all the studios who make much better products. It really is just an eye opener of how far back Bethesda is compared to modern games.

[@ethanppsh]

the numbers went down after the shitty "show" hype finally died down

[@sterlingarcher4343]

“Shitty”. bro the show was a success with critics and fans alike.

[@ethanppsh]

@@sterlingarcher4343 lol the show was ass . if you liked it you dont like fallout in general.

[@sterlingarcher4343]

@@ethanppsh I played all the games. How do I not like fallout?

[@ethanppsh]

@@sterlingarcher4343 you seriously just asked that? its like youve been waiting so long you cant see the bias you have towards the show. break it down rewatch. from acting to cgi to the lore.

[@cjdaboiii2466]

​@@ethanppsh"look, this guy has a different opinion than me!!! I cant have this!!!" -You with tears in your eyes as you write your garbage

[@studiokitsune4000]

Bro this video is fucking fire. Editing is amazing.

[@zaos08]

Just gonna wind up replaying New Vegas and condemning whatever trash Bethesda decides to shovel out

[@youtuvi7452]

NO, HOW COULD YOU SAY SOMETHING SO CONTROVERSIAL YET SO TRUE

[@dairub1790]

WDM by that. I always hear Bethesda bad and Obsidian good. Saying bethesda making a good job is more controversial. Because everyone is gonna shit on you.

[@AloneInThePark]

It's not very controversial tbh

[@ryszakowy]

@@dairub1790 you know that lying is bad right? do you know why nobody asks "why are your knees bending backwards?" BECASUE THEY DON'T

[@dairub1790]

@@ryszakowy as i said. I didnt say bethesda is doing good job, which they dont. But still, there is one guy who shits on me.

[@timedraven117]

My god man, listen to your finished product before putting it out. An hour more work would have fixed your audio levels

[@MuchDrOrange]

Your standards are way too high, not everything you listen to has to have perfect audio, just deal with it.

[@timedraven117]

@@MuchDrOrange Spending an hour listening to a video, and then changing a couple volume sliders is not some onerous task. The video is near unlistenable due to the music drowning out Skippers voice. So my standards aren't too high, my one and only standard is literally "Can clearly hear the speaker".

[@MuchDrOrange]

@timedraven117 no offense but "unlistenable" come on man. You can hear him fine, and tbh you probably just don't have too good of hearing cause no one else is complaining about this.

[@timedraven117]

@@MuchDrOrange I said near unlistenable, and again, an hour to double check your final product is not to much to ask. How else is skipper exposed to get criticism is people don't say anything?

[@Deadmemerz]

If I ever see a remake of the original fallout games, Larian better be involved because they are the only ones I could trust to even make the game feel like fallout and also keep the rpg aspects.