DOMINANCE RESTORED?!? | Hall of Forms: Hector, Lyn, Nino & Eliwood [FEH]

[@FEH]

Sorry, all. For Lyn’s build, don’t combine Laguz Friend & Gust. Since she has slaying, it drops gust to 2 cooldown and you don’t get the full effect out of LF4. It’s still a good skill to pick up for her, but most likely, you’re sticking with godlike reflexes.

[@DavidHutchinson0713]

Or replace her weapon with an inheritable, like, say, Null Spear (since she doesn't have NFU by default) or Bors' Doubler Spear (too recent to be available in the HoF, so you'll have to provide a 5* fodder for that, but still)

[@Roflolxp54]

Lyn looks bad because the build being shown sucks. Gust and Laguz Friend do NOT combo well together because of Lyn's Prf weapon putting Gust (a combat damage special since it requires Glimmer learned) down to 2 CD. Laguz Friend 4 only works with defense specials (like Godlike Reflexes or Aegis) and combat specials that have at least 3 CD (so for the case of Lyn, she'd want Dragon Fang or Aether with Marth ring).

[@Sam-se4oq]

@@Roflolxp54 she has GLR in base so might as well grab gust bc its valuable for other builds

[@Roflolxp54]

@@Sam-se4oq Oh, I know. It's more that the damage calculations shown in the video make Lyn appear possibly worse than she actually is, even if she's not that fantastic of a unit (she's certainly no Timerra or Attuned Caeda for sure). Fehology had forgotten how the skills interact or he forgot to change Lyn's build in those specific charts.

[@FEH]

You are correct. I pinned a note to clarify. Thanks for the heads up!

[@NScalx]

So while I agree with everyone saying Laguz Friend 4 doesnt work on Lyn with Gust (Noticed the same thing on the Mythic video with Laguz Friend 4 Dragons Roar Seiros), but consider getting Gust any in the Hall of Forms in case you want to run it with a different B skill because she comes with GLR. You want max value out of your formas so pick up Gust in case ir comes more relevent

[@nothingbasic8147]

No L!Ninian big sadge 😥

[@mr.r.8484]

Great video❤, correct me if I'm wrong: I don't think Gust is a good option for her. With the slaying effect on her weapon, LF4 won't have a good synergy with the special. Personally I'm goona go with BoL4, BDDC, Godlike R, and LF4.

[@yinsomniac4128]

You are right, But she comes with Godlike though so still pick up gust or no quarter 👍

[@FEH]

I appreciated the heads up. I pinned a note for clarity. I’d still grab gust since Godlike Reflexes is in her base kit.

[@Hypershell]

The Slaying/Laguz Friend 4 trap strikes again; Lyn's LF4 is incompatible with Gust because of her lance's accelerated cooldown. Honestly, this has been a recurring problem since inheriting Dragon's Roar to Brave Tiki; I.S. needs to start churning out some new 4-cooldown specials.

[@mr.r.8484]

@@Hypershell Godlike Reflexes is a Defensive Special, so the cooldown doesn't matter for LF4. Go for it! 😁

[@Hypershell]

​@@mr.r.8484Touche.

[@Hypershell]

Touche, thank you for that correction. Admittedly I've never used LF4 with a defensive special yet. 😅 Guess it's time to start!

[@FEH]

This is what happens when you stare at Brave Dimitri for too long 😅 I pinned a note for clarity.

[@pigeonleader]

Lyn with Gust+Laguz Friend 4 is like running Emblem Ike with Marth ring

[@FEH]

Yeah, neither work. I pinned a comment for clarity. Thanks for the heads up!

[@DavidHutchinson0713]

I am as strongly disappointed as you are that we didn't get L!Ninian in Hall of Forms this month, Joel... While it did leave me open to grab both L!Lilina and L!Fae from last month, it's still a bitter pill to swallow, as a huge fan of Ninian (both as a unit and as a character). I suppose I'll be grabbing Young Eliwood, since I don't have him yet, and I would love to build him up; I'm probably going for a more combat oriented build than you are, though.

[@ludgerkres.1437]

I was hoping L!Eliwood, Hector, and Ninian would show up. But the fact that none of them showed up is crushing. Going for Eliwood first, Hector second. Edit: Also the fact that we have been getting Legendaries and Mythics every HoF until now, FE7 gets nothing makes me very sad. Probably would have spent a forma on one mythic/legendary guaranteed if any showed up.

[@Sonyy33]

I don't think you can imagine how happy I am to have flame lyn as a forma, I literally screamed when I saw this lmao. she's my favorite unit in the game and I am planning to +10, GIVE HER TO ME

[@Ssbb7777brawler]

Despite attuned caeda being a thing I believe Flame tribe lyn is still worth getting.

[@ilovenierreplicant2983]

Huh, i have a +6 flame lyn thats uber invested into with an ascended florette and then this comes out. Thats funny. Ill use my forma soul to get her the Frontline build I think, i already have Laguz friend so that should be open to other skills.

[@turtle-bot3049]

I'm personally going for player phase skills for my Lyn since she already has LF4 (and tanking skills) from my fodder factories, momentum being the main skill I want to get her.

[@FEH]

Momentum is so much fun. You’ll have to tell me how the build turns out.

[@turtle-bot3049]

@@FEH Out of torches, but the build is almost complete and working well. So far I have gotten gust, momentum and endless tempest, just looking to re-acquire excel or find verge of death to run an AoE build and a good inheritable lance for her. Unfortunately despite getting excel early, I had to replace excel with her prf a skill to ensure she solo cleared the maps since I'm not building any of the other units and excel was lacking the defensive stats to help omni tank everything, which got really noticeable in the higher tiers. Her prf a skill is still so strong (tier 7 omni finish skill), even if her prf lance has fallen off quite a lot.

[@videogameOSTresearch]

They put so many units from the banner, but no Young Lucius😫

[@yinsomniac4128]

YEEESEEESSSS!!!!!!

[@radiantherooftellius1138]

YESSS FORMA FLAME LYN!!!!! YESSS!!!

[@yinsomniac4128]

THATS WHAT I’M SAYING YEEEESSSS!!!!

[@hedreamt9455]

so i’m interested to know if the sims for lyn were made of the exact build on her because if so, laguz friend is essentially doing nothing because she has gust and therefore a special that is less than 3 cooldown after her slaying effect. if the sims were done with godlike reflexes in mind, then that’s a different story. just curious because perhaps you’d be getting different results.

[@CodeDonutz]

Thanks for the sims with Y!Hector! I was worried about whether or not Y!Hector forma was better than B!Edelgard forma without any prior investment in either, but that E!Sigurd matchup really hurts. Maybe he'll get a good refine, but it'll probably take a good while until it comes out.

[@nobunagaoda9277]

Wait what? Flame Tribe Lyn came back? Ohhh i could get her, i am so excited to build her and try her out on how she's good wifh Gust skill, which I know that she's not a Mystic or a Legendary type but still i havs 2 forma souls left, uh yeah i might aim for her build i think this is my only chance to upgrade Flame Tribe Lyn even with a greater skills. Thank you Fehology for the notices/news about the incoming HOF. :)

[@RaymonZX200]

So hype for young Hector!

[@Poizik]

Wonder if it would be worth it to just skip B!edelgard/y!Hector formas and wait for ice fjorm to rerun. We're getting a double special heroes this month so I wonder if she will be on that banner.. I already have a +10 Marni for arena and would prefer to use her as a shield fighter save tank, as her weapon is better than both of theirs.

[@FEH]

The advantage to Brave Edelgard is she can be obtained with a currency that can be free. If you have the orbs, shield fighter on a newer armor like Nagi will definitely be better. I’ll be honest, I don’t think Hector is worth it.

[@Poizik]

@FEH settling for a forma would probably be the better option resource-wise, yet I still think there's a lot of value you can get out of skill duping(even though that in itself is another orb sink). I guess I'm hesitant to go for a unit like rearmed Grima because I don't think the meta is slow enough to justify it. Thanks for the feedback.

[@Nevix_Alare]

I'm sp excited for Hector. First Arcane Giant Greataxe and now I can get shield fighter 🎉🎉🎉

[@taifwidwptkiag9746]

If going for an offensive/AoE build for Lyn, what would be better: momentum or spd/def tempo?

[@FEH]

Absolutely go for momentum. You’ll have a ton of fun.

[@bagu2769]

Going for Y!Eliwood and I had completely forgot about A/S Link 4. I might go for it

[@andresfgp13]

i not that sure about Shadow Shift with Eliwood (unless we are giving him Sigurd ring), im thinking of as an alternative to his PRF maybe going for Breath of Life 4? i dunno if i will be replacing his PRF anyway but if im making him a full support unit i think that it would be good.

[@DavidHutchinson0713]

Not as reliable IMO; Breath of Life 4 works best with a higher Def stat for maximum healing, and Y!Eliwood's Def isn't great - L!Eliwood would have been better to utilize it IMO

[@DrickRT]

bruh they wouldnt bring duo mark so they can have a kids themed HoF with the complete young trio lords and the avatar just because that unit would be too broken with the recent skills ig lol

[@sirmazarin]

Does Shield Fighter work with armored blaze? I always thought it doesn't, like Hardy Fighter doesn't work with Armored specials, I am confused...

[@NiicoArys]

It doesn't, but it's worthy getting it even with shield fighter cuz unlike pavise or aegis, armored special are harder to come by

[@iwantmoney3598]

I wanted a FE7 unit for limited battles, but also having something to survive for today units and basically all of them look super powercreeped :( maybe baby Eliwood

[@connorhorii1569]

10:24 what is meant by 'grab bag'? can't you not fodder HoFs units for their skills? So getting Lyn (or any forma) with firm canto curb means its locked to that forma, right?

[@connorhorii1569]

nvm i watched 1 minute longer and i answered my q

[@y0blo]

While I am sad that there is no L!Ninian, they could have added L!Eliwood, N!Lyn, or Bramimond. But for whatever reason, IS decided no fun allowed. 😑

[@olivjaeger4637]

Something is hella goofy with these calcs. Felix outspends Lyn by a mile, ntm she isn’t getting Laguz friend active. Lucina dealing less damage than Bernie? Igrene killing through Shield Fighter AND BoL4? I’m fairly certain these calcs don’t account for Bonuses or Movement. If I’m right please let others know

[@Amethyst2941]

What if you wanted a Half Ice Dragon dancer But IS said Baby Prince with an Axe

[@axemtitanium]

They cooked too hard with this HoF, announcing it right before the end of the CYL4 HoF revival. Not spending a soul on them now lol

[@FEHudanshi]

F* IS, Where my Ninian 🤬

[@RL09-w7k]

LF4 doesnt work with Gust on Lyn

[@DavidHutchinson0713]

Still, you should grab Gust or NQ anyway, since Lyn comes with Godlike Reflexes by default. In Hall of Forms, _always_ try to grab alternative options to the default skill given.

[@OmegaAero]

No Ninian no sale

[@olivjaeger4637]

Why is bro running Marth Ring with Curved Shot 😭. Also I get for defense that Lucina won’t fully benefit from her kit but cmon, seeing Bernie deal more damage is hilarious.

[@TheShinyTresasLW]

Yikes joel gust doesn't work with laguz friend on lyn

[@RenRen19720]

Lyn best options is to keep her her special and Prf A Skill but definitely consider giving her something new like new Quarter Atk/Spd Excel just in case being more offensive happens to be better in the future as for B Skill i think that Buffer or LF4 are the best Picks as for C Skill Creation Pulse is nice but needs support so i suggest Endless Tempest Pulse Up : Blades but Atk/Spd Pledge is a more coherent option you could definitely give her Breath of Life 4 if you want her to survive but you are sacrificing Spd Personally I Suggest have Lyn the way she is supposed to fanction regardless if it a Meta Build or not for go for Buffer 4 and Endless Tempest and give Emblem Ike Effect and make her work a Defensive Offense build but run her with an Near Save and a Breath of Life 4 support and she is going to be fine and get Kills don't try to make her a one unit army not even felix can accomplish that and let's be real Emblem Sigurd [Gallop] powercreep is Temporary