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@benmaharaj6854 Жыл бұрын
I love that the Romulans could tell Odo liked Kira before Kira even knew it.
@KatriceMetaluna2 жыл бұрын
Dominion: The Obsidian Order and the Tal Shiar are both ruthless and efficient organizations. Section 31: Hold my beer.
@keithgolden77 Жыл бұрын
Don't you mean: hold my Romulan ale!
@randomrazr Жыл бұрын
should have escaped. cant be cut off in SPACE
@abrahamgustavoguitiperez-m2937 Жыл бұрын
The Obsedian Order was way more efficient, skilled, cunnning, witty, and ruthless than Section 31. Elim Garak is proof of this fact.
@Elthenar Жыл бұрын
@@keithgolden77 Real men go for the Andorian stuff! Or whatever is in the green bottle.
@keithgolden77 Жыл бұрын
@@Elthenar I believe the green bottle was Saurian brandy. I believe that Scotty found out during the tng dual episode. I'll take blood wine over Saurian brandy! If it don't kill ya, it'll make you wish it did! 🤣
@FromDream2RealityNow3 жыл бұрын
This was by far one of the most ground breaking episodes in Star Trek history, both in story telling and a superior battle sequence. Still sends chills down my spine
@jerichokayson28992 жыл бұрын
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@alexandershepard35342 жыл бұрын
@Jericho Kayson Instablaster ;)
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@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 Жыл бұрын
Even more so since it was originally gonna be a one parter that ended with a return to status quo.
@scottyunitedboy2925 Жыл бұрын
@@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 a wise decision to make it a two parter, especially as the digital effects had improved to the point where we could finally see massive battles in space between the different races.
@dr.nigelcool3771 Жыл бұрын
"Execute order 66." Sir, that's Star Wars. "Er, execute planetary sterilization pattern number 5." Number 5? Which one is that. I haven't sterilized any planets lately. "Never mind, just...open fire!"
@LordZontar2 жыл бұрын
You cut one of Garak's best lines in the episode: "They've set up a transmitter on the surface sending us false sensor readings. THE PLANET IS DESERTED!"
@ronaldjones398 Жыл бұрын
Yes. You are right
@randomrazr Жыл бұрын
ITS A TRAP!
@NormAppleton Жыл бұрын
Garak always knew
@InquisitiveEngineer8 ай бұрын
@@NormAppleton You mean Admiral Garakbar
@harry-thepug767 ай бұрын
@@randomrazris that a Star Wars Return of the Jedi reference ?!?
@Arthezius Жыл бұрын
When this came out, my gf at the time, who was a Trekkie as well, called me at work super excited to tell me to hurry and come watch it on VHS. We recorded them for when I was working. I came home and jaw dropped at this. It was the most exciting thing Trek had done up to this point. It was surreal at the time.
@campion04 Жыл бұрын
What a time to be alive. Ha. Waiting for episodes to come on Tv and recording them.
@Arthezius Жыл бұрын
@@campion04 I feel like there was something special about that. I miss that tbh.
@randybaumery5090 Жыл бұрын
V h s was the only way I saw many shows due to night shifts.
@nikkilanger955611 ай бұрын
I use to put a poster size sign on my door. DS9 on Go Away. Waited all week for this show to come on.
@hibbidyjibbidyy9 ай бұрын
i came home form school ever week, my family would watch tng, not before golden girls, thank you for being a freind!
@MedalionDS93 жыл бұрын
Who needs a Death Star when you got a huge space armada of two empires firing at once on a Planet
@mattwho81 Жыл бұрын
Up to this point the most Star Trek could get over us was a dozen ships on screen. A fleet of twenty was big in our minds, forty was epic. So when that romulan says one-hundred and fifty ships are coming at them it was world-shaking.
@DavidKnowles0 Жыл бұрын
If only they had 20 highly manoeuvrable defiant class ships, he would have simply said they should have sent 400 and set about completely destroying the fleet. But nope into the Romulan sent the most unmanoeuvrable vessel ever, the deridex_class battle ship.
@JemHadar4223 жыл бұрын
One of the best setups ever lol ...the Cardassians: Romulans had no clue.
@marcelosadasilva19732 жыл бұрын
Just like them spider shadows set up the Narn in Babylon 5 ot the basestars in Galactica when they destroyed the colonies.
@jamesneese7663 Жыл бұрын
to be fair they are secret agencies that NEVER thought they could be infiltrated. Both are respected and feared agencies across the quadrant. Their own secrecy and self assurance was used against them....
@blacktronpavel Жыл бұрын
0:37 - that moment really was the game changing moment. Even with the loss of the Odyssey, and the games the Dominion played against the DS9 crew until now, the Tal'Shiar-Obsidiant order lured into the trap and swatter like nothing let the viewers know they were way more formidable than we were led to believe. True "Oh shit" moment.
@amead78 Жыл бұрын
Such a great character episode for Odo and Garak. “You know the sad part is? I’m a very good tailor.”
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
either I'll court marshal you or promote you either way you won't like it🤣🤣🤣
@Volgan166664 жыл бұрын
The end made me laugh out loud. Very witty.
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
yeah that was to good🤣🤣🤣
@ras222734 жыл бұрын
The Defiant is a friggin tank! I love it! Lol...
@JohnnyZenith3 жыл бұрын
I wish Starfleet had created a fleet of them as planned. Too many make the mistake of thinking that single Defiant class ships were to take on the Borg. Of course it would have been a number of them attacking a cube at once. Very cool ships.
@MedalionDS93 жыл бұрын
It's way way more maneuverable than a tank though... it has the armor to accept a lot of energy damage, and quad phasers to fuck things up, and can fly circles around big targets
@G1ingy3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyZenith Sounded like they might not have the means to make too many.
@matthewjones20953 жыл бұрын
@@G1ingy remembering it wss to over powered and since this is fiction they didnt work out the bugs Like a good scientist would
@neon9202 жыл бұрын
It was nice how they connected the "suggestion" of 24 months to have any defense against the Borg, as well as using that time to have the fleet up in less than a year.
@mikeggg56718 ай бұрын
I loved this episode, I loved his story art. My only problem was with the battle. The Romulan and cardassian ships are simply standing still, and not even firing. These are state-of-the-art warships, manned by combat veterans. They would have been firing relentlessly. They would have been overwhelmed, but they would not have gone down quietly
@InquisitiveEngineer8 ай бұрын
A fan re-imagining of the battle shots with modern FX would be *amazing*
@coppulor65006 ай бұрын
yep. most ships just sit there/float around. but, that was what they could do with the tech and budget they had.
@MrHatoi Жыл бұрын
"Tain originated the plan; when we heard of it, we did everything we could to carry it forward" Man you know your idea is shitty if the intended target's reaction is "yes good very good let me give you a hand with that"
@MinscFromBaldursGate924 жыл бұрын
Not even the Romulans are safe from the Worf Effect.
@aashikarif17314 жыл бұрын
Admiral Ackbar: IT'S A TRAP!
@deepcow4 жыл бұрын
Sparks flying from a console are always fatal.
@marclikens3 жыл бұрын
I've noticed these sparks from the plastic panel often result in a piece of metal shrapnel lodged vertical through someone's face.
@hiuto2 Жыл бұрын
thought all species of the star trek universe used explodium as the main component in consoles.
@Youngstown529 Жыл бұрын
Such a brilliant episode. Eliminating the Tal Shiar and Obsidian Order in this was just epic story telling.
@NormAppleton Жыл бұрын
Oddly enough, it helped the Alpha quadrant side to not have sneaky paranoid elements in the fight.It certainly helped bringing the Romulans into the fight and it helped Damar and the Cardassian resistance.
@DavidKnowles0 Жыл бұрын
But doesn't really make a lot of sense. Tal Shiar and Obsidian didn't need to man the vessels with agents of the groups once they completed. Any normal officer could have carried out the mission, considering all it required was to travel under cloak to the planet and then start bombarding it.
@Youngstown529 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidKnowles0 Agreed, but more fun seeing the leadership decimated.
@dmadd4643 Жыл бұрын
Technically only the Obsidian Order was wiped out. The Tal Shiar was badly weakened, but was careful enough not to fully commit their entire force to the attack. Tain pushed for the full Order to go, probably hoping to recapture some of his glory from having been the Order's greatest leader. As for not needing to man the ships themselves? Actually, yes they did. This would be what in the 'spy game' is called a 'black ops' situation. Normal military protocol would have prevented the Cardassians and Romulans from even making the attempt to wipe out the Founders. This had to be done outside the normal chain of command, in order to avoid any 'red tape' or 'moral objections' (not that either the Romulans or Cardassians WOULD have objected...) - and it also gave both governments 'plausible deniability'. The Tal Shiar and Obsidian Order could both be disavowed and declared 'rogue elements' or 'extremist terrorists', and allow for diplomactic routes to be taken. We all know such options would have been pointless in the face of the Dominion's modus operandi, but still...forms must be obeyed.
@CoolsBreeze Жыл бұрын
It's funny how badly misinformed their intelligence was. They thought a fleet of 20 ships could even make a dent on an operation of this scale. And this wasn't a covert operation, especially when they told everyone in the Alpha Quadrant that they were going to do this before they went into the wormhole.
@Revkor Жыл бұрын
the connie can destory a planet of life these ships are far more superior then a connie
@Omega0850 Жыл бұрын
Why not announce it as soon as you arrive at the wormhole? Nobody can warn the founders, except through the wormhole, so they only had to prevent that until they are gone through, and ask the Federation to keep it closed for a little while after, so nobody would outrun them towards the founders homeworld. (which requires them to tell the Federation)
@hindermannbjorn9507 Жыл бұрын
It is also funny that the Dominion missed the opportunity to acquire, study, reverse-engineer and employ the stealth modules of the wrecked OO/TS ships. A stealthy Dominion armada would have steamrolled the alpha quadrant
@danieljackson1272 Жыл бұрын
@@hindermannbjorn9507 the thing about that is, they normally just steamrolled right through their opposition and thus didn't need to result to stealth tactics. If it wasn't a case of numerical superiority overwhelming their enemies, then it was the fact that their weapons could penetrate most shields - and even in situations where the tide began to turn in the enemy's favor they were willing to sacrifice themselves in Kamikaze runs at the enemy ships. In a way they were worse opponents than the Borg.
@hindermannbjorn9507 Жыл бұрын
@@danieljackson1272 Normally yes. But the Dominion already perceived the Federation/Klingon Alliance as a real threat that needed sophisticated infiltration, subterfuge and diplomatic isolation which was done well. They created "perfect" unquestioning loyal soldiers and servants which they can replace quick. So why pass up the opportunity to improve their own reliable forces, understand the cloaking which romulans, klingon and the defiant uses and relying in alliances with solid cardassians and breen? I perceive it as a dent in founder perfectionism
@dk54684 жыл бұрын
Why do D'deridex-class Warbirds look so bad-ass and advanced, but seem to just shit themselves and become immediate cannon fodder in this episode? The odds were crazy but they didn't even fight back
@omegacon44 жыл бұрын
TV logic.
@rarevhsuploads49954 жыл бұрын
They are huge but only about equal to a Galaxy Class ship in firepower. They do put up a fight but the odds were 150 vs 20 ships, even the small Jem'Hadar attack vessels are dangerous in large numbers. Swarmed. The battle continues after the Defiant leaves. I would imagine the Dominion took at least 1/3 losses.
@Euripides_Panz4 жыл бұрын
Dominion weapons were still more effective against shields at this point. After an attack ship was captured, the technologies were studied. Defenses were improved after the Dominion invaded. Cardassians were also given technical assistance after joining the Dominion. The combined force was able to offset any technical advances the Alliance had. A Warbird was just a big target until then, maybe taking out a couple ships, each. Later on, the Warbird was a match for the battlecruisers.
@MinscFromBaldursGate924 жыл бұрын
Even spaceships aren't safe from the Worf Effect.
@boscovilante40682 жыл бұрын
Romulan-Changeling had access to all specs & off they went to the Dominion to study.
@AF-nc2fc Жыл бұрын
Emperor Palpatine could've learned from this: if you lure your enemy into a trap, don't just pester them with starfighters, envelop and destroy them with your ships.
@Asghaad6 ай бұрын
that wasnt mistake on his part, the rebel fleet would have been destroyed either way but he needed psychological pressure to turn Luke which was WAY more important to him than the rebels. the fact the rebels willingly chose to make a suicidal run on the imperial fleet rather than stay in the open to be target for the Deathstar might have told you that attacking them with just fighters leaving the rebel fleet open to the most powerful weapon in the battle was the tactically superior choice to begin with.
@michaelstone7514 Жыл бұрын
Garak is such a brilliant character. He added such depth and intrigue to the series. Definitely added a more adult mature complex element to the storytelling. DS9 brought a lot of the storytelling back down to a humanoid level. The God level being and cosmic stakes story lines get a bit overblown and unrelatable at times. DS9 managed to avoid a lot of that by having plots more humanoid centric. Even the stories with the prophets and the founders focused more on the struggles of their humanoid followers dealing with their faiths than the God like beings themselves.
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
the great link calls to you it calls you to come and join with it
@jdunn813Ай бұрын
"Colonel, there are ships coming out of the nebula!" "What type of ships?" "Jem'Hadar fighters!" "How many?" "All of them, I think."
@IrenMasot3 жыл бұрын
That is an incredible edit right there at the end 😂😂😂
@StYxXx4 жыл бұрын
"The third ship is still pursuing" - "Aft torpedos, fire" and it's just a single button to press. Why do they have to wait for the Captain to order every single shot? Just fire at the enemies! Or better: let the computer do it.
@bobpage65974 жыл бұрын
You have to admit, it was an EPIC button press with that dramatic camera pan/zoom :D
@FlintIronstag23 Жыл бұрын
Always been a flaw in Star Trek. Computers would work so much faster than having to go through all the verbal orders and human interactions with the console. Sisko said the plan was to fire at 500 meters, so instead of auto firing at 500 meters, Dax has to call out when they reach 500, and then he orders to fire. At the speed the ships were flying towards each other, they would have already collided by the time the first shot was fired.
@TheLAGopher10 ай бұрын
@@FlintIronstag23 You would also think ship computers would be better able to stay ahead of Borg adaptations against rotating shield and phaser freqs. Just enter in attack plan whatever and the ship computer would handle the selection and firing of weapons as well as ship handling. It would be interesting if somebody did a DS9 Trek novel where it turned out Section 31 dug up the old M-5 computer plans and retrofitted it to older Miranda,Excelsior, or Constitution refit ships, so they could operate with bare bones crews during the Dominion War.
@Ckbtony19832 ай бұрын
😂😂😂hahahahaa 5:02 "If you pull a stunt like that again ill court martial you... Or I'll promote you... Either way you'll be in a lot of trouble"😂😂😂😂
@talkaboutwacky4 ай бұрын
I liked how the changeling let Garak go out of respect for the obvious friendship between him and Odo when he could've easily liquified him with a Romulan disruptor
@Mike-jl2kp9 ай бұрын
Meet the defiant - the most powerful ship in the entire universe
@spartybrearly7221 Жыл бұрын
Even Romulan Warbirds have the exploding console danger.
@matteoboldizzoni98702 жыл бұрын
I've always wandered what the attack pattern omega 4 looked like
@Butler_Buck Жыл бұрын
"150" was like Richie Cunningham saying "72".
@ozziemederos4 жыл бұрын
This was and AWESOME episode
@mechanix1228 Жыл бұрын
I saw this when it aired on TV. Who else here was holding their breath every time they went to commercial for this episode? Yeah thats right I had to with through commercials but damn did it make coming back from commercial break so much sweeter.
@gerv55 Жыл бұрын
150 ships coming out of a nebula and apparently nobody thinks to cloak and get moving back to the Alpha quadrant. It really amazes me how the Romulan warbird is touted to be one of the most powerful ships in the Alpha quadrant yet literally any time it appears in ds9 it gets its ass handed to it. They spent an entire episode cantered on bringing the Romulans into the war, yet you never see their Warbirds doing anything of worth in the battles, you see the federation and Klingons destroying ships, but the Warbird is basically a decoration, sitting about not doing much.
@kashattack Жыл бұрын
Only Sisko would have the balls to enter a warzone containing 150 Dominion ships and then start shooting up Dominion ships AND living to tell the tale!
@trazyntheinfinite9895 Жыл бұрын
I like the ending.
@MillywiggZ Жыл бұрын
10 years later it would take the Romulans hours to decide on which pattern was best to destroy a planet’s crust.
@darthdangerzone6666 Жыл бұрын
That ending was funny, lol
@spartybrearly7221 Жыл бұрын
The Changeling impersonating this Tal Shiar Officer didn’t mention other potential threats; e.g. Breen (probably already infiltrated), Shelliak, Gorn and the Borg. The Borg in particular would be a more dangerous threat to the Dominion.
@SpaceNerd11710 ай бұрын
They might not have been aware of the Borg, or perhaps their nanoprobes are incompatible with Changeling physiology.
@eepruls4 жыл бұрын
Love the ending!
@FuckGaryTanguay4 жыл бұрын
What episode is the ending from? Whats the context?
@Spookssga4 жыл бұрын
Its from ST The Next Generation
@JustinThompsonliljt19804 жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Next_Phase
@2566Conan4 жыл бұрын
Defiant, hold my beer I got this.
@MinscFromBaldursGate924 жыл бұрын
USS Ben Sisko's motherfucking pimp hand.
@leedonovan85673 жыл бұрын
It would STILL be interesting, that, if there was a major BORG invasion of, the Gamma space, among other incursions, and the Federation, Klingons, Romulans, Bajorans, and with special attention to The Dominion, had to "ALL", work together, big time!! For if one fell, all would. And a WAR like that would last longer than two years, and the destruction caused by the BORG would be absolutely catastrophic!! And much, much, harder to fight an enemy that will not surrender!! A good concept!!??
@campbelldowler13962 жыл бұрын
No.
@ianhirst1148 Жыл бұрын
Its interesting that the founder said the only real threat were the Klingons and the Federation but yet they would make treaties with the Tholians and Miradorn so must have thought they were a real threat.
@mareius Жыл бұрын
Janeway took care of the borg already
@BigT54 күн бұрын
Not a single ship had good enough sensors that could detect even 1 of 150 ships.
@Renegade2786 Жыл бұрын
2:34 - 2:42 I love how the set up the premise of the fourth and the first half of the fifth season with that line.
@Thy_Boss2 ай бұрын
Leland Orser doing yeoman's work as always
@keithallver2450 Жыл бұрын
This was the first we really see the Defiant kickass.
@laker4life363 жыл бұрын
Mario Chalmers. Classic and Iconic.
@starbugmechanic52369 ай бұрын
Such a cool storyline!
@CaramelisedNipples2 жыл бұрын
It has been a while since I rewatched the series, I didn't realise it was an edit until way too late, I won't admit how late 😂.
@mangotango76pulp5910 ай бұрын
so glad the Orville wasnt on that fight they have no transporter to move around.
@XTRABIG10 ай бұрын
The Klingons, The Federation.... and the Borg
@yournamehere41713 жыл бұрын
That last part had me
@juegovinster42889 ай бұрын
the fact that they killed Romulans and didn't bring in the Romulans into the war. pff
@uncletaylorify2 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked the Jem'Hadar fired on the Defiant after Odo beamed aboard.
@varianschirmer9375 Жыл бұрын
1) The Jem'Hadar fired on Odo & Weyoun 6... when they didn't know he was aboard. 2) The Jem'Hadar fired on the runabout with Odo & Garak aboard... so apparently the "no changeling has ever harmed another" doesn't mean "No Jem'Hadar has ever harmed a Changeling." 3) The Jem'Hadar didn't concentrate on the Defiant... just enough firepower to persuade Sisko to leave...
@chrismarks42772 жыл бұрын
Old episode The Die is Cast...But damn did i love the Tain he was a bold one and when he clowns its powerful....So much for the Dominion!
@brofenix3 жыл бұрын
LOL that ending :P
@manw3bttcks2 жыл бұрын
1:03 That's Admiral Ackbar's line
@darthvirgin71576 ай бұрын
2:33 i guess the founders COMPLETELY “missed the boat” on SECTION 31. ….the ones who actually were able to bring about the founders’ extermination. …until Odo decided to heal them.
@seriascannain6675 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what happened to the out of phase Romulan who was thrown through the bulk head!? Might make an interesting follow up story or maybe the Romulan whom the changeling was impersonating was imprisoned like Bashir, Martok among others!
@jhl36532 ай бұрын
THE ENDING!!!!! ROFL
@harryc19712 ай бұрын
Would have been interesting to see a squadron of Defiant's in action
@Jauqee15 ай бұрын
Great ending
@MAZE47 ай бұрын
I wasn't finished, I wonder how many jem hadar fighters those 20 tal shiar, obsidian order ships were able to destroy, any thoughts?
@cranbers11 ай бұрын
I like how the founder who was posing as the romulan officer told them not to withdraw and make a stand, ensuring they all would be destroyed. thing that didn't make much sense though is why the obsidian order and telshiar would of commited the entire organizations to this battle? They said this would wipe those organizations out? Seems pretty silly.
@russell50780844 жыл бұрын
Interesting that only the dominion ships were firing.
@MrDibara4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the original idea was to have all ships firing. No idea why that didn't happen. Maybe it was the budget?
@thehantavirus4 жыл бұрын
it was a budget issues, thats why the ships loss here.
@stonem00132 жыл бұрын
the Romulans/Cardassians had just unleashed their entire salvo on the planet
@Gundam-ip9ur Жыл бұрын
Sisco loves fighting, we need Captain Kirk
@dannyw13 Жыл бұрын
They could have salvaged the damaged ships and obtained the cloaking devices, guess they didn't think of that lol
@christianresel80517 ай бұрын
2:39 yea only that Klingons and Fed's homeworlds, thus their locations, is in the BETA QUADRANT!
@printezstroman Жыл бұрын
That ending.
@nashshaffer6235 Жыл бұрын
This was vicious
@raylewis5514 Жыл бұрын
The Die is Cast might be my favorite episode ever (2 parts)
@majidosei2185 Жыл бұрын
They need to showcase the Defiant more in future shows.
@01123heavenlybe Жыл бұрын
NOICE!
@chrismayer3919 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Gene Roddenberry ever envisioned such an epic space battle in his Star Trek franchise? WOTTA WAR!!!
@TheLAGopher10 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think Gene would have looked at the Dominion War as massive failure of the Federation to win over the Dominion with it's idealism, or have a transcendent species step in and dictate peace. Kirk hunted down a marauding Romulan ship to keep the peace and it's commander self destructed. Kirk went after a marauding Gorn ship and was forced by godlike aliens beings into a battle to the death with the Gorn Captain he refused kill in cold blood after injuring it. The Orgainians stopped the out break of a Federation /Klingon War. I think the idea of setting a Trek series during a multi season galactic war that could not be resolved by a rousing Kirk speech, or timely alien intervention,would have horrified Roddenberry.
@mandelorean62436 ай бұрын
They shouldve sent a scout ship, a completely foreign ship with the best upgrades cloak that doesnt register as romulan... Even if caught it would be blown up up or the person could kill themselves(alien in appearance
@joegriego3091 Жыл бұрын
Hey look! John Kerry.
@townstar1 Жыл бұрын
I´d like the phaser power fire from the defiant.
@HilarityBribo4 ай бұрын
Seeing 150 ships coming why not just cloak and run?
@user-sd2ui7io7f2 жыл бұрын
Its a trap!!
@torontoontario83874 жыл бұрын
The defiant looks like silpeed
@lamelama22 Жыл бұрын
Even as a kid... I was yelling "cloak" at the screen. They think their cloaks are effective at this point (and supposedly are in-universe); the fighters are out of range... IMMEDIATELY cloak, and disperse in random directions at warp, then retreat to alpha quadrant and rally at DS9. Yes, Lovak is a changing, and he's giving the orders to make a stand, but Tain is shown here to be a complete idiot. It also completely undermines all of the tension & drama they've been building. Of course, the writers could've just had them be in firing range already which would've fixed it... but the way this is written it always infuriated me; because we are told over and over that these people are the best and brightest, and then as soon as something goes awry, they turn into mentally-handicapped idiots who might as well be banging their heads on the keyboards drooling. Also... the Cardassians & Romulans never fire back... at least in the initial battle scenes. :-/ Also made no sense that the Jem'Hadar would be chasing the Runabout or shooting at it; that might be the most egregious thing in maybe the whole series. Lovak, a Founder, beamed onto one of the Dominion ships after giving Odo the Runabout. He would have ordered them to explicitly NOT shoot it, and not even shoot the Romulan flagship until they left. Hell, the Jem'Hadar probably would have escorted the Runabout back to DS9. I actually think that's a way better ending and way scarier... this whole fleet goes through the wormhole, and all that comes back out is the Runabout, with Garak alone to tell the tale.
@acid0philus Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's insane that the only firing is coming from Jemmie bugs.
@thirdworldrider6991 Жыл бұрын
special effects budget. also ever seen a warbird fire anywhere but from the front?
@russell50780844 жыл бұрын
The pathic part of the battle is you have warships just ships just sitting there doing nothing instead of firing.
@VintageMusic7292 жыл бұрын
budget issues
@Just-a-guy926 Жыл бұрын
There’s a traitor on the bridge.
@DavidKnowles0 Жыл бұрын
That battle would have gone differently if they had a 20 defiants class ships.
@donwon7592 Жыл бұрын
So much for the dominion
@StraightWhiteMaleNews2 жыл бұрын
Damn never noticed the generations soundtrack
@01123heavenlybe Жыл бұрын
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@danieljackson1272 Жыл бұрын
That Romulan at 0:43 is hot & would absolutely get it. 😂 Seriously though, I wonder if that's the same one from the episode where Worf, Ezri, the Romulan, and that one Breen were being held prisoner?
@the-quintessenz6 ай бұрын
That's Wendy Schenker. She looks better as Romulan.
@ctcentralinfo4 жыл бұрын
Section 31 the best kept secret in the Alpha Quadrant.
@debravalreyes20334 жыл бұрын
Next to Quarks beetle snuff.
@roninrider1930 Жыл бұрын
tuff little ship....??
@Uridien2 ай бұрын
Im still annoyed that every ship blows up in one hit on DS9 That are in the heat if battle, everyone forgot to raise shields.
@xadam2dudex3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that these Romulan ships are as worthless as Federation ships
@davidbastow16 Жыл бұрын
The only threat now are the klingons and the federation
@user-dd7lt9du2n2 ай бұрын
Questions , what are you doing here, what is your goal , where your bases located
@scottmatheson33464 жыл бұрын
Over 150?! There's no way that can be right!
@MonkeyMarkMario3 жыл бұрын
Considering the Dominion had thousands of warships I can definitively see them using 150 for this ambush easily. You have to remember the Dominion occupy the same amount of space as ALL the major Alpha quadrant political entities and considering that each one had just hundreds of ships before the war. Ya,150 ships is a drop in the bucket.
@MAZE47 ай бұрын
I wonder how many jem hadar fighters those 20 tal shiar/
@tkm79014 жыл бұрын
What happened in there shield
@talkaboutwacky5 ай бұрын
IT'S A TRAP
@jozkomrkvicka76074 жыл бұрын
IT'S A TRAP! ... so why don t they just set the cloak on and fly away?
@bobpage65974 жыл бұрын
"There's no way out of here Garak. The Jem'Hadar have cut us off, we need to consolidate the fleet, and make our stand here!" - Says the Romulan founder spy.
@jozkomrkvicka76074 жыл бұрын
@@bobpage6597 that was about a half an hour later....