It is great that "truly malicious actors" are recognized here, and part of the problems with the mandate are being addressed. But broadcasting the location of the operator is the most immediate problem when dealing with "truly malicious actors" who would want to rob and/or physically assault the operator. Broadcasting the location of the UAV is important for airspace management, of course. There are circumstances under which certain parties, such as police with a warrant, should have quick access to the operator's location, but the general public does not have a good reason to have immediate access to that information and the threat of malicious actors seeking to rob and/or physically attack operators gives us good reason to not broadcast that information in plain text. It looks like we are on track to start broadcasting operator location and then wait until after the inevitable dangerous and potentially deadly incidents occur to come back and only then change the standard. I just hope I and you, reader, are not the victims who will be harmed in order to make this obviously needed correction to the system.
@GeekRex2 жыл бұрын
Three letters will solve that--CCP. CCP stands for Concealed Carry Permit. So anyone who approachs me with bad intent will wish they hadn't.
@jakesdronelife63072 жыл бұрын
@@GeekRex Ya I carry everyday but I’m hoping something changes before this ridiculous law goes into affect I have nothing to hide from law enforcement agencies but joe smo and his buddy t dog don’t need my location so they can try an rob me to get a bag of meth an some cheap smokes !! An best believe everyone will know about this an the news is gonna Sensationalize this topic an make us out to be the bad guys !!!! I don’t wanna have to hurt anybody but I’m going home to my wife an kids at the end of the day !!
@Roboticdoughbull3k2 жыл бұрын
@@GeekRex there you go with the permits again for that too. You people's entire problem is your lack of regard for the constitution, your own right's under it/within it and the line thats supposed to be drawn by we the people, where as they've again and again blatantly stepped across that line, into our own/your own personal place aka your rights and your own ability as a man to stand for something or fall for anything and everything. I Smh, some of us don't consent, period. The entire premise of its creation and implementation of which are unnecessary due to corporate backroom dealings and safety concerns without precedent for such is all overreach and tyranny by those we allow to have that power.
@GeekRex2 жыл бұрын
@@Roboticdoughbull3k and they are needed. I want anyone who has a CCP to be checked out. So you don't want a CCP? Go for it or open carry. Either way, you go to jail. By the way where do drones get mentioned in the Constitution?
@armando.visuals2 жыл бұрын
I think its gonna come down with having someone with us at all time watching our backs... this really really sucks as a solo content creator though
@ilkoallexandroff2 жыл бұрын
Actually in Japan, remote ID was implemented in June, and DJI updated the latest drones with internal Remote ID, so u guess they will just do that in other countries too! Luckily for us in Japan, if you registered your drone before the Remote ID gets forced to us, you are exempted from it for 3 years!
@phoenix37172 жыл бұрын
I’m also in Japan, but have the DJI FPV. Do you know if there are any modules available for us here yet?
@ilkoallexandroff2 жыл бұрын
@@phoenix3717 hello! The DJI FPV also has the remote id internal with the latest firmware!
@jonmicheals6212 жыл бұрын
Yes, and now the FAA has a list of the new drones that it approved. uasdoc.faa.gov/listDocs
@zevi2 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown of an incredibly challenging regulatory situation. Looking forward to hopefully seeing an update!
@rockynashlive2 жыл бұрын
Great interviews Aaron. I appreciate how you summarize and simplify what was said for new drone owners.
@photojoseph2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating… given the tight timeline, I predict that the FAA will extend the deadline multiple times, like they have for the RealID requirement to fly (or whoever is responsible for that). Hard to imagine all the people buying drones today who would end up completely screwed in just a year!
@Matanumi2 жыл бұрын
Yeah....no
@dangerous83332 жыл бұрын
It's a simple chip they can add to the Drone. That will be easy to do by 2023. Some already have it, it's just not activated People that already have them will have to add it if they're planning to comply. They wouldn't be screwed and I imagine the price will come down by then.
@Tallguysrc2 жыл бұрын
dji drones already have the software inside to Remote ID
@ednafronkelbarger86012 жыл бұрын
This is not the worst possible time to buy a drone. This is the best time to buy a drone. Drones manufactured after September 16, 2022 will have to broadcast the location of the operator. Drones being sold now will be able to be retrofitted with a module which you can attach, and which will broadcast the takeoff point, but NOT the current location of the operator. This could literally save your life if you simply take off, move, and then reset the homepoint. It's a given that the modules will be available, simply because it's a guaranteed market. Saying that you're crossing your fingers that they will be available is like saying you're crossing your fingers that someone will manufacture lights you can attach which are visible for three miles so that you can fly after dark.
@geezerpleasers_OG2 жыл бұрын
US drone sales are projected to total around $1,250,000,000.00 this year. So yes, multiple vendors will meet the need when the market is this big.
@edruttledge3422 жыл бұрын
Last month I overheard a member of the FAA DAC state that the implementation of the manufacturers' requirement may be delayed - the official explanation being related to Covid induced supply chain issues. BTW - Excellent content, interviews and editing.
@bidenisasnake99322 жыл бұрын
So, this IS about money.
@fj1100mark2 жыл бұрын
The only thing that is wrong with the remote ID system in the states is that the information is going to be accessible by the public whereas in Europe in the UK the public are not going to have access to the information
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
No, it's the same for both. In both cases the location of the drone and operator are visible to anyone in plain text, but the actual registration information about the drone operator is only available to authorized parties.
@fj1100mark2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronpk well that’s not what’s been said by everybody in America there’s going to be an app that you can download to your phone whereas in Europe there isn’t
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what information everyone else is going on, but I just read thru this document which is from the EU standards org working on EU Remote ID, and it very clearly says the intent is to enable App Store apps to be able to see the location of drones in the EU. asd-stan.org/wp-content/uploads/ASD-STAN_DRI_Introduction_to_the_European_digital_RID_UAS_Standard.pdf But still in both cases it's *only* the location, but no identifying information about the person.
@fj1100mark2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronpk okay well it is the location that is the problem you don’t want people to know where you are so they can come and cause aggravation or even steal your drone maybe ESA won’t be quite the same as the UK but check the civil aviation authority for the UK as officially we’re not in Europe anymore
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
I actually read through the CAA rules yesterday and took the test to get the Flyer ID and Operator ID to be able to fly in the UK when I'm there later this year, and I didn't see any reference to Remote ID at all there yet. I'm also not finding any mention of Remote ID in reference to CAA by googling around the internet. Do you know of any particular regulations that CAA is working on in that regard?
@shsechas2 жыл бұрын
Keep enjoying the hobby. Remote ID will be delayed, delayed, and further delayed. The FAA does need some control over air space, but they are putting many in danger if some of the info put out isn't changed.
@dangerous83332 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Not hard to change how the module or app works. It will be here in 2023.
@bidenisasnake99322 жыл бұрын
@@dangerous8333 Hello FSB/Gestapo.
@Matanumi2 жыл бұрын
@@dangerous8333 yeah....nah
@enregistreur2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, I'm not into drones (yet), but this is good to know! Thanks for the video! (and yes, I enjoyed the small vlog montage :D )
@davidbertrand70692 жыл бұрын
I’ll just keep rocking my sub 250g 3” 4s monsters and having a blast.
@michianadroneservicesllc8582 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for the update! Perfect video!
@sUASNews2 жыл бұрын
All American drones need this, an important caveat! The first working RID was from DJI and they are running a version in Japan already.
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
I thought I said this was the first running version of DRIP, which is the specific version of Remote ID that the IETF is standardizing
@BugBobsWildWorld2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Thank you, Aaron. I had no idea the process was so far behind (or the deadline was arbitrarily short).
@keithbennett51792 жыл бұрын
Thanks Aaron was almost ready to push the order button on a Mini III Pro my first drone.
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming DJI is one of the ones that are planning on shipping this in a firmware update, but I'm not sure enough to buy a Mini 3 myself right now either!
@keithbennett51792 жыл бұрын
@@aaronpk agreed! Will wait and see but that’s the drone for me I think!
@carpetbomberz2 жыл бұрын
Roll that beautiful Drone footage!
@penultimatename66772 жыл бұрын
This is a great time to purchase a new drone. Dji says they will have a firmware upgrade. If they say oops, then you buy the module. The work being done looks great but without FAA approval it may get rejected.
@ryanparker31272 жыл бұрын
Great video explaining some of this! I started looking into buying a drone but definitely feel I need to wait until they get all this figured out! Last thing I want to do is spend over $1k on a drone and then not be able to fly it!
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
There's been some progress since I posted this video! There are some drones that now have their Remote ID certification, and some have even actually enabled it with a firmware update now! The DJI Mini 3 is one of them. No word on the Mini 2 yet. Here's the official list: uasdoc.faa.gov/listDocs
@ScottParisi2 жыл бұрын
Great, informative video. Watching this video in the Philadelphia metro area, hoping my Mavic 3 is not obsolete next year or wearing a heavy transmitter.
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
DJI will *probably* be shipping this in a firmware update since they already have the necessary hardware internally, so cross your fingers!
@ScottParisi2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronpk, thanks for the reply and they're tightly crossed.
@tedz20002 жыл бұрын
great stuff aaron
@MicheleBloodphd2 жыл бұрын
There is *exactly* the info I was seeking. There is just an insane amount of misinformation out there on this topic (or just flat out guesswork). It's great to see someone like you doing the work to get actual answers. Are there consequences for manufacturers not in compliance by next month? Does it seem likely that the FAA will adjust the deadline either for manufacturer compliance and/or pilot compliance (for next year)? Are there any major manufacturers you're aware of that could have FAA-compliant craft by next month?
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
The consequence for manufacturers next month is they are not allowed to sell drones in the US unless they comply with the new rules, or they could face serious fines. I'm sure they are all aware of this and will do whatever it takes to be able to continue to sell to the US since it's not exactly a small market. That said, I also wouldn't be surprised if the deadline gets pushed back for inexplicable reasons...
@MicheleBloodphd2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronpk There's a piece of that I don't understand and am curious about. Are non U.S.-based manufacturers (e.g., DJI) subject to fines by the FAA? If so, how would that work? If DJI or Autel, for example, decided they weren't going to comply (they probably will), the FAA has no authority over them, correct? Would other government agencies have to come into play banning imports of non-compliant drones? Would U.S.-based sellers/distributors of non-Remote ID-compliant drones be subject to fines at some point? Is this spelled out in the regulatory language of the rule? I'm absolutely fascinated by how this whole thing is going to play out. With so few U.S.-based consumer drone manufacturers out there, it seems like this could get thorny.
@roddwestphal23792 жыл бұрын
It's December and there's only about 50 or so drones that are compliant according to the FAA website. i just bought a drone from Amazon and it's not compliant and yet they are still selling the drones, I'm guessing without penalty. I did tall to Ruko and they did say they are in the works to have a fix before the deadline.
@tonybalm55762 жыл бұрын
Is this for real? Is it crazy that a drone and its operator need to be tracked but vehicles and their drivers, guns and their users etc. dont and they are all equally or more deadly in the wrong hands. Go figure. The 250g drone so it's not a privacy issue so what is the real reason for this. There is potential for all drones sold before the required date to instantly become worthless. I can see a whole lot of operators flaunting the law. And then there is the law side - a drone detected a location xyz and the operator at abc, the law does a quick calculation and determines that is not within line of sight and send you a fine with nothing more than a pair of alleged ID's and the onus will be on you to prove you were not where they claim. I guess its a case of wait and see.
@EmeraldAudiovisual2 жыл бұрын
The bigger question is really, how they are going to deal with all the drones manufactured before that date and if retrofit will be required eventually. It's not too big a problem in the EU right now, as I believe our deadline is quite a bit away, still, but it's still important to think about.
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
I assume the same way they deal with anyone breaking current rules. If you're not doing anything stupid you are unlikely to get caught, but if you're doing dangerous things or flying in places you really aren't supposed to (e.g. a stadium) then there are really serious fines and penalties.
@EmeraldAudiovisual2 жыл бұрын
Yes, common sense should dictate that. And I guess there is room for the older larger multirotors, as the under 250g ones also don't need the ident. I just figure, they might want it retrofitted in the future.
@asquelt2 жыл бұрын
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Stuard Card addresses it at 9:52 - it only applies to new sales. those with existing devices are safe from this. now, what happens next depends on where you live - US (FAA) gives you a year to replace your drone with new one, EU mandates that you broadcast your id and position but doesn't require it to be broadcasted by drone. so there are already apps in widespread use here (ie. DroneRadar in Poland endorsed by PANSA) that satisfy this requirement.
@daniel-stefan2 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you🙏🏼
@capnstevoanythinggoes2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a DJI Mini 3 Pro, along with the Fly More Pack and extended life batteries. By Sept, 2023, when the Remote ID is implemented, will a drone not manufactured after the requried date, be useable? Does it mean that all previous drones cannot be used?
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
That's correct, all existing drones will not be allowed to fly after Sep 2023, unless they are updated with Remote ID or you attach an external Remote ID module on them. The good news is the DJI Mini 3 already has this now! You should be able to find it in the settings to turn it on right now.
@gaips2 жыл бұрын
How are you liking the DJI Mics? I wish a company would copy PicoGear’s PicoMic system (smaller form-factor).
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
I've been really liking them! They do surprisingly well in a noisy environment like this!
@iamwatari40882 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness I bought the mini 3 pro. Which is 249g
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
In the US there is no exception to the Remote ID rule for drones under 250g
@onecrazywheel2 жыл бұрын
I actually wondering what the future holds in the next 5 years when we see hundred of thousand of drones delivering items from local Amazon stores and Walmart? That will be a very crazy future in our skies. It's coming.
@Brian-Hansen2 жыл бұрын
And this is why I am happy I sold my drone 3 months ago and plan to never buy or fly one again. It’s just not worth all of this silliness. What a mess.
@onocoffee2 жыл бұрын
Do you get any interference from people when flying the drone in places like Center City?
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
When I was flying in Philadelphia I was pretty far away from people in general, or flying just after sunrise when there was barely anyone on the streets.
@ScottParisi2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing. I'm out in Montgomery County and all the little airfields get in the way. Couldn't believe his City Hall and bridge footage.
@onocoffee2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronpk I guess that's one of the best things about this time of year. You could shoot that city hall shot at 8pm when there's very few people in Center City. Much different scenario in December!
@roddwestphal23792 жыл бұрын
There's nothing on the FAA Website that exempts drones 250g or less fron RID, Unless you are flying in a FRIA.
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
💯
@elipin41282 жыл бұрын
Q. Isn’t DJI already doing this in Japan. I recall getting a firmware for it 2 weeks ago ?
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
I haven't looked into Japan's specific regulations, but I wouldn't assume by default that the requirements from Japan are the same as the US.
@rockynashlive2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I just started flying my drone.
@jakwath2 жыл бұрын
Now this is a thumbs up video for me.
@RadarLightwave2 жыл бұрын
Q: Will this also affect R/C airplanes?¿ I hear it's supposed to be for all unmanned aircraft, but all anyone is talking about are the quadcopters.
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the FAA doesn't distinguish between quadcopters and planes, they are all "UAS"
@FrankieBagz2 жыл бұрын
OK so what happens if u try and fly ur drone without a remote ID system? During the time frame that it's mandated? Will u still be able to take off?
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
It depends on what the manufacturer ships in a firmware update. If you don't update or have a drone that can't get Remote ID added, then it won't know the difference, and flying it after Sep 2023 would be breaking the FAA regulations and you could get fined at the very least.
@TheFrenchPug2 жыл бұрын
So store shelves may be empty come Sept 16th?
@dcon97082 жыл бұрын
Q I’m Canadian, like districted firearms, is there no possibility of grandfathering of existing drones? I ask bc they are property the owner has a right to. I don’t want law enforcement or government knowing about my drone usage bc its non of their business.
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
Sure the drone is yours, but the airspace is not.
@PeteBreen2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff - thanks Aaron. Really not a fan of operator location - that seems like a ridiculous violation of privacy when the FAA already has all of the identifying information on file for the operator - IF - you've done what you're supposed to with registration & licensing. I guess it's like anything else. Follow the rules - get punished. 😉
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
I should have been more specific, it's specifically the location of the operator during the flight, not the registered address of the operator. The idea is if you see a drone in the sky you should also be able to see where it's being piloted from.
@PeteBreen2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronpk I get that - what scares me is the relative ease of theft. This gives criminals a nice fix on type of drone; exact operator location. Not a good feeling if you're piloting a $2K + (or $10K +) drone that will take time to fly back & land.
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
There isn't any information about the drone itself in the messages broadcast over the air, that will only be available through the internet lookup by authorized parties like law enforcement and the FAA.
@PeteBreen2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronpk That's a small relief. 👍
@Docfly622 жыл бұрын
@@PeteBreen How is that "small relief ". Why is he downplaying the fact that the operator's location is being disclosed. Of course it's only happening during a flight. And as far as specific drone information, how is that not going to deter thieves? It's a safe bet that know they are looking at a few hundred bucks at the very least.
@jasonford72162 жыл бұрын
catch me if you can FAA
@chriss82062 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have a mini 2 for a new pilot I can't find one that I can afford. Love drones
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
I actually have a DJI Mini 2 that I am selling! shop.aaronpk.tv/products/dji-mini-2
@jimshaw8992 жыл бұрын
I wasn't clear on the 'authentication' part. Does one need it to fly, and what if you are not in range of any internet connection to get an authentication for an operation? (I'm sure there exists a solution, I just don't know what it is.)
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
The FAA doesn't have any requirement for including authentication of the Remote ID messages (yet). It will be possible to broadcast the authentication messages without an internet connection too, that's part of the protocol design of DRIP.
@kc2rxo2 жыл бұрын
FAA does not require, nor specifies Authentication be sent over RID. As a designer of DRIP, we knew that there would be scenarios where the operator or observer would not have Internet connectivity but still need to authenticate the drone. Thus under DRIP we developed Authentication methods of performing the signature validation of signed messages "offline" by sending all the required data over the broadcast link in different messages. In simple terms; an HHIT is generated for an operation and registered. Upon registration the registry gives the UA a special blob that is to be broadcast. This blob contains the public key of the HHIT so that an observer that receives it, regardless of Internet connectivity, can then validate signatures of other Authentication messages sent by that drone.
@SkyFireDrone20222 жыл бұрын
Sooo.. it’s going to be delayed. Remote ID is such a s’@/7 show but if the majority of us flyers want to be able to keep flying, it’s a necessary evil. It’s no secret that the FAA has no idea what they were getting into l, and they didn’t want to have to be involved in hobby flyers for sure, but as soon as people started making money with drones, then the government said,”Hey! We need some of that money!” At least RID has SOME element to protect the privacy of the pilot now … that was something we had to fight for as private persons. But this element of broadcasting the pilot’s location IS a problem for all of the reasons mentioned in other comments. It’s bad enough already now when we get approached and yelled at by people accusing us of spying. Now anyone can find you and rob you of your $30,000 drone when you’re on a job. Interfering with an aircraft operator is supposed to be a felony but I have yet to see more than ONE person get fined for it. I know of ONE.
@richiebricker2 жыл бұрын
There is no Remote ID. Nobody has made one, They dont even have a standard protocal so manufacturers dont know what frequencies to use and how hard they have to pump them and are they gonna interfere with flight controls and make drones dangerous. It seems its expensive and hard to get these signals to 300 yards, only a few companies can do it and there drones are over $1000. If you have to be right next to the pilot to receive the signal, then its WORTHLESS!!! if your less than 300 yards away then you can see the pilot. If you want it to received a couple miles away then your going to need 10 years of research and its going to need a 7.2 volt battery and its going to be heavy and not a little strobe, Even a little strobe didnt start out small and maybe took 5-10 years to get it that way. You people are way too Pie in the Sky about this. All toy drone manufacturers will be out of business next month and have probably already laid off the entire company. All this so my drone will be LESS SAFE than it was. After all the damage has been done to the Tech industry, next year they will have to roll back these laws and all of those companies that made RC Planes and models for over 100 years will be gone. You may not see it but this hobby is already dead and for what? Are ya gonna feel safer knowing drones are only flying in beverly hills where the rich can afford to have custom made drones?
@DevArnold2 жыл бұрын
No thanks won’t see me attaching one of these on my drones
@DXAMedia2 жыл бұрын
It is not for safety. But to frame a hobby. People will afraid to fly, If you are in urban area because maybe it is not permitted even around you own swimming pool. In remote areas you risking to confront drone hunters/chasers. Sure there will be cases. Will airplanes see remote id drones? Obviously not. It is all about to scare loyal flyers and collect money.
@dangerous83332 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that be THE reason to buy a drone now. 🤔 It's the reason I've decided to keep my Autel Evo 2 pro for years to come.
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
if you want to fly illegally then yes
@HannesDev2 жыл бұрын
I dont understand what the problem is
@scottjarriel67612 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this update. The amount of disinformation out there about this is rediculous. Your second guest stated a timeline that is very realistic, about 18 months to really get this into a product that is usable. I would have to believe that the FAA will give a concession on the implementation time, if they want this to be done correctly. And saying that we shouldn't be buying a drone in 2022 is an understatement. Probably need to wait until the end of 2023. Just my $0.02.....
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I am actually optimistic that DJI in particular will be able to add this in a firmware update, but I'm not sure enough to go buy a DJI Mini 3 right now 😅
@Matanumi2 жыл бұрын
Dji added it on newer quads anyways
@sowhat5992 жыл бұрын
I was looking at buying a drone. Not anymore. Too complicated.
@panayiotispanayides21412 жыл бұрын
Same here, the system is pretty F up, its a blatant violation of privacy, its a police state action and the next step will be to tax you on every flight you make. You cannot escape. Watch this space. Flying up to 400ft does not affect any aircraft, as long as you remain outside NFZ you should be ok, so what is the REAL reason for all this nonsense and costs. Seriously, I was really looking forward to getting my first drone, but ......
@BADALICE2 жыл бұрын
Drone hacking videos to come soon.
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
Bob would like to have a word with you
@RealestateinvLLC2 жыл бұрын
Just bought my Mini 2 yesterday. $600 dollars is a good amount. Should the company be refunding me?
@honeybadger9425 Жыл бұрын
I got a mini 2 as well it’s very confusing because it’s below 250g so technically you shouldn’t need one but I have heard a lot of contradictions about it’s firmware update capabilities and contradictions on the new rules. You can’t type in new RID rules for mini 2 and get a simple black and white response anywhere without someone waffling for hours
@indyjons3212 жыл бұрын
Morse code, here we go!
@bidenisasnake99322 жыл бұрын
But they force you to add weight so you break the law in other ways. INSANITY. The Gov could Phrakc up a train wreck.
@byijahwilliams49042 жыл бұрын
SIMPLE APPLY YOUR DRONE FOR PART 103 instead of 107... a small aircraft DOES NOT to go thru all the B.S. why should your toy or recreational drone? APPLY FOR PART 103 PROBLEM SOLVED
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting to read the language in Part 103 around the motivations for it, there's a lot of overlap with drones. But Part 103 is very up front about it only applying to recreational flights, so as soon as you want to put a camera on a drone and do something with the photos, that's already out. Another interesting aspect is ultralight vehicles are specifically defined as single occupant, but the language and motivation behind that was clearly written assuming people would try to fit *more* people in the planes not fewer than 1. In any case, I seriously doubt you'd be able to get a part 103 application for a drone through, tho it'd be an interesting experiment.
@mattdeese2982 жыл бұрын
Just build your own FPV drone don’t install a remote ID and don’t register it. Problem solved
@supernenechi2 жыл бұрын
Amazing, that means I will 100% never buy a drone ever! Fuck that shit! Thanks for informing me!
@asquelt2 жыл бұрын
easy peasy - all communication must not be encrypted but should be cryptographically signed to circumvent replay and impersonation attacks.
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what they're doing! The "authentication" packet contains the signature. I might go deeper into this in another video but it gets pretty into the weeds fast.
@asquelt2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronpk i don't know details but it seems they're using OOB protocol to get the nonce. thus requiring internet connection to get into the air. which will receive massive backlash from drone manufacurers after they'll receive fair complaints from their clients about this "unstable feature". the result might be twoway: either they'll disable it altogether (as requiment of having this backchannel always on is not in the regulation) or they'll enable "conditional opt-out" for running drone in areas without cell coverage or while in roaming (but then good luck for FAA proving that I did not had "interminnent connection issues" while taking off).
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
That's kind of the magic of what they're doing though. The drone will be able to create its unique identifier completely offline, thanks to public/private key cryptography and a hierarchy of address space and a certificate chain. If you're interested in reading the actual spec here's a link to the section that talks about this: www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-drip-arch-25.html#section-3.2
@asquelt2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronpk cool, so - if i understand this correctly - this "offline mode" offers a static id calculated from device public key. still trackable then. the only advantage over sending (signed) s/n is that those HHITs are not manufacturer-dependent.
@kc2rxo2 жыл бұрын
@@asquelt Adam here. The ID we create (the HHIT) is generated using a public key as you described and then registered with a registry to make it actually valid. HHITs are merely claims until a registry attests or endorses them with a specific signed object; it is this object we send over as one piece of Authentication data. When you register the HHIT (which is acting as a Session ID) you also provide the Serial Number of the aircraft - which is stored and looked up later. Only those with duly constituted authority (aka the FAA or LEO with FAA permission) can access the information in the registry to correlate the Session ID(s) with a Serial Number which is static. HHITs could be generated in batches and registered before a flight if you do not have Internet connectivity in your flight location. It is expected, but not required, to generate a new HHIT for every flight (example every time you arm and disarm your aircraft). We stay quiet, but attempt to allude, on this topic in the standards as it is all based on policy of a given organization or user to how they wish to use Session IDs (and how frequently they change). Our "offline mode" uses the signed object from before, being send over broadcast, embeds the public key of the current HHIT allowing the receiver to parse it out and use the public key to validate other signed messages from the aircraft without needing a dynamic lookup over the Internet.
@zerobeat20202 жыл бұрын
You mean don't buy a drone in the US in 2022. Contrary to popular belief (in the US), the world is bigger than just the US, and KZbin videos are not just limited to the US.
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
Europe is getting similar rules, Japan too, plus most of my channel viewers are in the US anyway 😜
@-q-b0_12 жыл бұрын
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@drones78382 жыл бұрын
um... good luck on that guys. lol
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
I honestly have no idea what you're referring to
@NiepoprawnyNick2 жыл бұрын
But this is f… stupid. If someone would like to do something wrong the drone won’t be having ID and won’t be seen on any “security” phone. This will be easy to do with any basic knowledge of electronics . Bull….t
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
There are always people who want to do bad things, and they will find a way to do so, but thankfully they are the vast minority. Far more common is people doing things they don't know is wrong that can inadvertently cause harm to others, and that's what I think this can actually help with.
@NiepoprawnyNick2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronpk Yes you are right this argument is true . Although in DJI drones for example are blockades which prevent you from launching in forbidden zones. Why we need to have id if we could prevent drone from entering such zone. If so you wouldn’t need I’d . It won’t work for hobby drones though. I think this “action” is more focused on reasoning introduction of new standard which will need new trainings, new staff , new hardware/software, processes etc. New market is opening 🙂 And then insurance, paid registrations, taxes . Problems and obstacles just to fly in your garden.
@Trd20202 жыл бұрын
Such bs
@LaClippersFan3102 жыл бұрын
This is ridiculous...
@garyrendano47172 жыл бұрын
F THAT
@rektide2 жыл бұрын
Apologies, but I'm not sure drone operators deserve privacy. These are super-powered ultra-intrusive systems. I can typically read an aircraft's tail number in a variety of ways. The premise that a much more intrusive, much more snooping capable device that can fly much closer to me deserves a much higher level of protection & privacy than an airplane does not make sense to me. I see this work to further shield drone operators as actively harming the public.
@aaronpk2 жыл бұрын
It's definitely a fine line, and a tough argument both ways. If you look at most of the discourse about the rules, including in the FAA's Final Rule that contains a lot of responses to the public comments, they are trying very hard to balance exactly this question of privacy.
@Docfly622 жыл бұрын
Following your logic I need to register any camera lens above 100mm. And also have to broadcast when I mount it on my camera.
@RollingDeadMan2 жыл бұрын
What you are failing to understand is that you can not just walk up to the pilot of a Cessna and club them in the head. So yes, drone operators do deserve to have their location hidden to stop wanna be vigilantes and thieves. If you as bystander have a issue call the cops and let them get the location and deal with it.
@edruttledge3422 жыл бұрын
It is estimated there is 1.25 guns for every person in the US. I understand the concerns of law enforcement, Security types and even the neighbors. But, like going to a shopping mall or sitting in your second grade classroom, some drone pilots out there will be easily located and shot - its only a matter f time. On the other hand, I do support RID tech being required ... on guns. I want to know how many guns are nearby and where the gun owners are. We need to be safe.