THIS is why the 250 gram drone threshold means NOTHING

[@iwontreplybacklol7481]

If your drone weighs 251 grams and you fly without registration and remote id, the govt and public freaks out. Yet, a 18 year old kid can go out and get his drivers license and then that very day buy a 3000+lb car that does 0-60 in 3 seconds and goes 170+ mph and nobody bats an eye....

[@VOLTEX_OFFICIAL]

Actually 250g and up

[@MrDecessus]

No one says humans are rational creatures. Far from it.

[@cafeandfighters]

You must not live in the "liberal " NE where everything is illegal. Drivers, in particular, are guilty until proven innocent. Driving a few mph over the limit is considered attempted murder.

[@declancanfield]

Its just cuz people were stupid with drones.

[@tristar3005]

Unless you're doing part 107 operations, don't register any of your drones. Do not comply with hobby killing regulations

[@MadMajor86]

It may be considered a marketing ploy in the US, but it isn't in other parts of the world. We can fly over people and cars, and in controlled airspace with a sub-250 g drone in Canada, as long as we are not wreckless. No need to register a sub-250 g drone and no pilot certificate needed. Also, Transport Canada doesn't differenciate between commercial and recreational flying. Flying is flying, and the airspace authority doesn't make rules outside of its jurisdiction. Drone companies don't build drones just for the US market. Many other countries have very relaxed rules for micro Drone.

[@jacksonmacd]

Thanks for the clarification for Canadian rules.

[@ogpennywise]

He cares not about stuff that counters what he says. What he says is law. Respect it. /s

[@thepoweroftruth3624]

250g DOES MATTER. Does not matter when it comes to flying over people, that's true, no matter what the weight. IT DOES MATTER when it comes to remote ID. If it's not necessary to register the drone because of the weight then remote ID is not required. Very significant reason why weight DOES MATTER.

[@buckdashe2571]

THIS is a good point. If your Mini 2 or 3 is registered, you’ll be required to load it up with a remote idee transmitter, probably bringing it over 250g anyway. Thanks, I’ll reserve registration of my Mini 2. It’s strictly a toy. Now if I go into business, I’ll get the 107 and register THE HEAVY.

[@henryjraymondiii961]

CORRECT.

[@bradleywhais7779]

Little 3d printed clip with my ID on it. Take it off my mini 2 when I dont have any attachments XD

[@jeremymerrix6236]

Faa approved flying over people. Just not flying over in large quantities in crowded places. Same as flying over cars it does not specify trucks or busses nor whether they are parked or traveling. One would assume that substaned assembly of people would be a gathering or group defined as 2 or more within a 10ft radius. Not people walking down a sidewalk 10 or more feet apart. What about flying over house unknowingly with 30+ people inside. Where does this BS stop? I myself am restricting all air operations over my land and will be charging all planes helicopters and birds with trespassing. Oh all flying bugs too. Do I charge the neighbors for their bugs trespassing? Air space is everyone's space not to be regulated over a damn toy . I'll keep my toy under 400ft from launch point and away from airports and stadiums and such and FAA can fuck off. Because I don't see the NFL following FAA guidelines for the football that's flying over large groups of people 🙄

[@ScottGrammer]

This is what bureaucrats do. They spend their sorry lives making the lives of normal people miserable.

[@averagefpv9449]

You said it correctly!

[@Frogsplash27]

It’s not a marketing scheme for drones under 250g. It literally says you can be exempt from 107, if you are under specific guidelines.

[@stevepuddifoot8117]

Outside the USA, a sub 250g drone does have its advantages. For example, I can fly over uninvolved people and cars! But I can’t fly over crowds. Here in the UK that “marketing” is based on real laws.

[@jnick6]

register a toy? remote id's? sub 250g? land of the free? nah ill pass

[@maphyous228]

I’ll get my a license for a sub 250g. When the birds get theirs.

[@jnick6]

@@maphyous228 hella right.

[@jakeyfpv]

😂🦅🦅🦅

[@loganhouse6984]

Amen

[@JimmyJohnson-uq6um]

Simrex x22 It the waypoint machine dont even need a transmitter. Its the real outlaw drone it asks no one for permission to fly 👹

[@CAMTechChris]

Two things that should be clarified. Just because a 107 cert pilot is operating a drone it does not necessarily mean that that drone must be registered - it only depends on the type of operation it's being used for (recreational or commercial). Also, If a sub 250 drone (the Mini 2) is not going to be used for commercial purposes I do not recommend registering it. Once you register your Mini 2 or or Autel Nano+ it will need to RID compliant. If it's not registered it does not need to RID compliant. The Mini 3 Pro (and Mini 3) is on the FAA DEC list (and it has built-in RID already turned on) is because it can potentially be over 250g with the extended battery.

[@jayhache5609]

So, the Mini 3 Pro will automatically transmit Remote ID info straight out of the box, because of the “potential” to be over 250g? This is the first I’ve heard of this.

[@snivesz32]

The only reason to register your drone is so they know where to send that $10,000 fine.

[@lastxp]

I feel sorry for all the young kids flying there birthday toys and getting arrested cause they have no license.

[@KenHeron]

It's a great way for them to learn how to make prison toilet wine.

[@clarkjames1510]

someone correct me if i'm wrong, but in the UK at least, and possibly europe, the importance of sub 250 is that you can fly in a lot more places- In the US afaik you just need to register if over 250g, but the areas you can fly are the same for a mini as they are for a matrice

[@peterpizzurro]

If you're worried about a flyaway write your name/number on the drone and tell the government to pound sand.

[@G4Disco]

FFS, all the people that bent over backwards for the government over a hobby/toys. If I have a Cessna flying sub 400 AGL around my area there are bigger issues.

[@relentlessburrito]

I mean...sub 250 does exempt the drone from remote ID...so...I'd say that counts as a big deal. Right?

[@thomashardy9994]

Like politicians, they’ve made that statement and now can’t back away from it.

[@CDRaff]

Unless you are a Part 107. Then it has to have Remote ID. How my

[@glenwhatley7366]

It's ridiculous to create legislation when the technology for remote id doesn't even exist. These laws are insane!

[@senseisecurityschool9337]

@@glenwhatley7366 One the one hand, it sounds ridiculous the way you worded it. On the other hand, Bluetooth dongles and GPS receivers aren't exactly exotic tech. Grab a Bluetooth TTL dongle from Sparkfun for $3, and a GPS from the same site, plug them together and there ya go. Hardly anyone is going to snap those two things together and put them on a drone until after the law is passed. I also appreciate that the rule leaves open other ways to comply - you can do it any way that makes sense for your application, provided the FAA agrees that it meets the requirements. Vs requiring everyone to buy and use one specific product.

[@JOE-DAN]

In Canada you DO NOT have to register sub 250 gram drones

[@jack_stunts]

or just never register your drones its none of the governments business what i do in my free time just another trick to get money outta people

[@penultimatename6677]

Do you register your automobile? Do pilots have a responsibility to register and follow the rules? You are a pilot. If you were unfortunate to get in a serious crash you could be fined at a rate much higher than someone that followed the rules.

[@slapdat.byteme]

@@penultimatename6677 Do you post your cellphone number and home address on the outside of your vehicle? Broadcast on public airwaves the precise location & speed of your car to anyone interested in knowing this data? Your analogy is flawed.

[@penultimatename6677]

@@slapdat.byteme I agree there are issues with remote ID. Certainly the location of controller should not be known to the public. You provide proof of age to a bartender. You are providing more information than is required. Your mobile phone through triangulation is providing more information than anyone should reveal. This isn't necessarily to law enforcement. I agree privacy is extremely important. As a Pilot the plane you fly has markings. Of course we have a license on our vehicles. Is there much of a difference? The question maybe whether a government agency is allowed to force rules upon people controlling a moving vehicle.

[@slapdat.byteme]

@@penultimatename6677 The difference, and it’s a HUGE difference, is that showing my drivers license, passport, etc is a consenting 1-to-1 release of my info to a law enforcement official and not a general broadcast to who knows how many civilians. Again, your comparison logic is flawed.

[@penultimatename6677]

@@slapdat.byteme I'm not disagreeing with you. Just pointing out common talking points which may or may not be relevant. I take security very seriously but we do know there is a push pull relationship. Between keeping the public safe and honoring our right to privacy.

[@SKYGUY1]

I am a Commercial Pilot and Flight Instructor, and Instrument Flight Instructor, and Advanced Ground Instructor. I just received my Part 107 certificate. I am of the understanding that a Part 107 pilot can transition overhead traffic or pedestrians. If overflying pedestrians I believe the prop guards must be in place to overfly people. The "trick questions" are not "tricks", but are rather questions designed to measure one's "understanding" of the subject of the question. Yep... they do require a little more study.

[@GarethDix]

“250g is a marketing ploy” - in the US. In the U.K. and europe the rules for drones under 250g are very different

[@Aerindelprime]

Correct me if I am wrong please.....but if you are sub 250, you have to follow all flight rules and restrictions, but do not have to be registered or 107 licensed if flying for fun, correct? That seems like a very important factor to me.

[@KenHeron]

Correct

[@CurtisAdventures123]

It's only $5 to register, then you can fly over 250 under recreational

[@Aerindelprime]

Sure. Once you are licensed.....pretty big hurdle for most people. Not to mention the extreme distaste most people have for 'registering' anything.

[@matthewb840]

From what I’ve read, you also don’t need to have remote ID for sub 250g drones as long as you’re flying recreationally. So you get two benefits for sub 250g drone pilots who are doing this as a hobby

[@burtpanzer]

If you don't register them they won't know who to arrest.

[@NomadicNight]

The problem with registration, is that by doing that, you're giving away your ownership of your drone. None of you reading this understand this.

[@gu9838]

true that. and with the digital id thingy the sub 250 gram drone WILL be a good thing lol plus its just smaller!

[@SailingSarah]

It's just like "registering" your vehicle with the state... gives them automatic jurisdiction over you as an "operator".

[@NomadicNight]

@@SailingSarah Ok, well YOU understand it, but most people don't.

[@MarkLawry]

Under recreational rules, you don't register every uas. You register once, and that number goes on each.

[@richardpugh7333]

I have just been on the FAA Drone Zone to do as you stated, to register my 249g Drone. The website itself states this at the "add device" page: "Recreational flyers must add manufacturer and model information for all UAS over 0.55 pounds that they own and operate." This is 249g which means that the Mavic Mini 1 or 2 does not need to be registered for recreational use.

[@buddyadkins2432]

That is the way I understand it, however, the flights must not be anything that the FAA would consider to be a Part 107 activity, then it does. So, if you abide by all the other rules, no entity gets any benefit, and you don't use or post the video, then you should be OK. By the way, money doe NOT have to be involved. Even posting a video on KZbin promotes one's personal business (their esteem or rating or whatever). This has already been indicated by FAA representatives.

[@NomadicNight]

@@buddyadkins2432 Yes, we know that, but there's a clear distinction between 'flying for commercial use' and a drone operator flying for a hobby. 'Commercial use' is usually interpreted in the UK to mean as a business for financial gain.

[@buddyadkins2432]

@@NomadicNight In the USA, the FAA defines commercial use as "In the furtherance of a business". In this case furtherance means any benefit, ANY of any kind even charity, even personal. And business is interpreted to be ANY entity whether a formal business or not. Each person has their own "personal business". Think not, ever hear anyone say "stay out of my business". Posting on YT is in the furtherance (benefit) of the poster's business (promoting one's self). Anything other than just flying for FUN and not posting the video is considered a Part 107 activity. We might not think that it is not right, but it is certainly Real.

[@NomadicNight]

@@buddyadkins2432 I was only referring to our UK laws, not USA. We have a different flight regulator here, called the CAA, so different rules apply here.

[@MrStevegibb]

The confusion probably comes from the fact that some countries such as mine UK do allow sub 250g drones more freedoms such as flying over uninvolved people etc. Flying over crowds is strictly prohibited here though even for sub 250g drones. I do think sub 250g drones should be encouraged as now the mini 3 is out they strike what i think is a fair compromise between safety and functionality.

[@harrisongould9460]

Yeah I think you’re right. I watch a lot of KZbin videos that do come out of Europe and then it even mention that they’re flying over people. That’s why I thought it was relaxed in the states. After I wrote that I went right to the FAA laws, and there it was, no flying over people less you have a category one drone which is only technically available in Japan.

[@NightRunner417]

I really think they should widen the regulations based on weight class. If I'm gonna get bonked in the head by a drone then I'd damn sure rather it be a Mini 3 (yay, free drone!) than say an Inspire or a Matrice. 🤣

[@doublespresso]

In Serbia sub 250g is not regulated in any way so technically you can fly it anywhere (secton 1 . paragraf 1 of regulation).

[@Timboslicce]

That shiny headed guy sounds like a rule follower that used to get beat up in junior high

[@JohnCuppi]

Under 250g in the United States right now for recreational flyers really doesn’t matter much, BUT once Remote ID comes to pass it definitely will. Remote ID is not required for sub-250g recreational flights. Sub 250 mini drone owners will not need to worry about retrofitting their quad for that purpose in the near future.

[@marcoreviews]

The 250 grams and part 107 thing are a scam to stop people with learning disabilities to pass the test and make an honest living. Basically it is another tax system that puts more money in the usual peoples pockets. Sad world we live in.

[@ae1582]

If your worry is about retrofitting a remote-ID hardware module, then sure, sub-250 recreational fliers will be clear. If your worry is about privacy, and the information sharing, I suspect many existing drones will be complying via firmware updates, which will have them sending out Remote-ID data packets all the time, giving away the remote pilot's location, registered or not, regardless of weight.

[@marcoreviews]

@@ae1582 yes exactly you should always upgrade to the latest and greatest privacy killer update lol 😂! I wish you could just fly with the default software like in the old days. Can’t stand the constant forced updates

[@marcoreviews]

@@ae1582 yes exactly you should always upgrade to the latest and greatest privacy killer update lol 😂! I wish you could just fly with the default software like in the old days. Can’t stand the constant forced updates !

[@JohnCuppi]

Yes, I am strongly against the FAA's proposed implementation of Remote ID for those reasons and others. For recreational flyers who don't want to deal with any of that, and care about staying legal or choosing a new drone that doesn't have it installed, under 250g is about to become a huge deal in roughly a year from now. It remains to be seen if DJI or other companies will force FAA-compliant Remote ID via firmware update on their sub-250g drones or not. I don't think they will, but then again, they have AeroScope as it is... Either way, there will be plenty of sub-250g manufacturers who will have zero FAA-Remote ID implementations to pick from.

[@equisetuminc]

I just took the FAA Part 107 (two days ago). In my opinion, they were not "trick" questions but questions to determine if you know truly know the concepts and can extrapolate based on that knowledge. Passed with 'flying colors' but had to work for every point.

[@mattalford3932]

Sub 250 category helps with the ignorance argument in court. I honestly know nothing about the FAA or their rules. I bought my drone on Amazon. Doesn't the faa regulate aircraft? The ones with doors and wheels falling off. Boom no punishment. Unless you fly into an area you shouldn't or disturb aircraft.

[@markwyman2912]

Total gov overreach.

[@BluSky1]

So what the FAA says is not the law, this is why we have 3 branches of government, The FAA is trying to make rules and in many cases these are violating a lot of existing laws. So risk vs danger, a 250 gram drone is not the same as a Cessna 172 that weighs 1,669 lbs. saying you did something risky without any injuries, fatalities or property damage is going to be hard sale to any judge or jury. Plenty of drone haters at all levels of the government. Opinions and hysteria are not a good reason to make laws or rules. The data shows drones under 600 grams are extremely safe. We have zero reports of a drone weighing under 600 grams in the USA ever taking down a manned aircraft and zero fatalities as result of an accident between a micro toy drone and real aircraft. So why all the buzz? Greed the federal government wants to cash in and sell your backyard to amazon and google drone delivery. They need remote id to do this because if amazon and google delivery drones start crashing over your kids playing in the back yard they will get shut down very quickly.

[@burtpanzer]

They already have billions. It's more about restricting our ability to use high altitude surveillance, but yes, nobody asked them to do anything about drones because there's zero need to regulate the hobby.

[@hmz6535]

I fly fixed wing rc; on a fixed location; no fpv equipment on board; line of sight all of the time; wtf do I need a sectional chart for? I'm not going cross country if any pilot thinks of it!

[@ddb5736]

Any person that uses a drone without knowing the law is basically illegally flying just like it is illegal to drive without your license which it implies you learned the law for driving. The marketing for under 250 grams has nothing to do with illegal flying. All those commercials and descriptions for those drones only say you don't have to register the drone in most countries. That is it. And that idea of registering all drones, I disagree. If you register your drone that is under 250 grams, you will need to follow the remote ID mandate. No thanks

[@thompsonskyproductions]

The sub 250 thing he was referring to is not about having to register, but about qualifying as a category 1 (described under 107.110), which means you can fly directly over people (provided you meet the other requirements). I don't know why people getting this mixed up.

[@NomadicNight]

People get things mixed up, because the Police here in the UK think they're the only ones who know the law, even when they don't, or misquote it, and so there's confusion from them, as well as the general confusion regarding drones.

[@asdaven1]

$5 isn't my hangup on registering a drone. Its Remote ID. My question is if I register my sub 250 gram drone and non part 107, then dosent that set me up for having to add remote id to my sub 250 Drone??

[@DavidEvans-rs1vw]

That city was hoping that guy didn’t have a license so they could fine him. It’s all about money.

[@redhawkdrone3403]

That is not the case, the city does not have jurisdiction over airspace and therefore could not fine him.

[@davidlejeune4774]

I think CT government workers just have nothing better to do lol

[@1stAmendmentDrone]

@@redhawkdrone3403i like this argument. I’m eventually going to have an issue with a neighbor or another rando calling the cops saying i tried to attack them or their dog or was looking at someone in their window. It’s crucial to have recording always. I have 1.5 hour of flight time. I’m very new here.

[@ae1582]

The sub 250g drone thing is real, and makes a big difference in most of the world. In the US, there's no practical benefit to using a sub 250g drone, but that's more due to over-zealousness on the part of FAA regulators, and not a scam by the drone industry. There's a reason that the DJI mini 3 is only now becoming available in the US, when it's been out for months in other countries where it makes a difference.

[@JerryT21]

I'm not going to register anything

[@jetsetjourneysofficial]

you could lose your drone

[@dingalarm]

Good! 👍👌 I wish you the best of luck in your fight against injustice and over-regulation 👏👏

[@michaelburke1310]

the world don't have enough manpower or resources to solve all the murders and catch and properly punish real crime, but sure let's go after some flying toys, "do not comply" i believe is a moral stance against overreach of power, as long as you aren't endangering people or property it shouldn't be a big deal

[@richodphoto]

Over people also means directly over them. The only way you would know is if your camera were pointed directly down all the time. If the camera is pointed out at any angle, and a person is seen, you arent over them. People see a drone in the air, anywhere, and they swear you were 'over' them.

[@frankmoreau8847]

When a drone is at 50+ feet the illusion gets even worse. I put a drone directly over myself visually, and then panned the camera down to find that I was off by considerable distance. Visually anything within about 5 degrees of vertical appeared to be directly overhead.

[@Digitalfiendscom]

I just got my first drone (DJI Mini 3) and started familiarizing myself with Transport Canada's drone rules. I was surprised to find that in Canada, from what I can tell so far, you don't need the equivalent of the FAA's part 107 license to use a sub-250g drone for commercial purposes. Honestly, I'm a bit shocked by the number of rules for drones but Canada's rules seem relatively more straightforward than the US'. I'm probably going to end up having to register the Mini 3 and get a RPAS basic operations license since I'd like to use the DJI plus battery for extended flight time and possibly a strobe for night flights or to assist with extending daytime VLOS. Speaking of being prepared, I got the drone on the weekend and still haven't flown the damn thing. I'm sadly one of those read the manual thoroughly, do a bit of research, and plan things out sort of guys lol; I couldn't bring myself to just rush in an fly it. Unfortunately, now it's going to rain for the next couple of days with 60km/h wind gusts. Bah!

[@KenHeron]

You're smart to educate yourself thoroughly before flying it. 🇨🇦👍

[@rctrix9063]

Nobody is going to weigh your drone. Government bodies are predators and you should never obey or be obvious.

[@Digitalfiendscom]

@@TTime685 Huh? Why would I buy something that doesn't have the feature set I want just because it's my first drone? Maybe if I was 10 it'd be a concern but I'm not and my Mini 3 is still working great and zero crashes so far. Thanks. 👍

[@scottykardos]

The law enforcement here in Placerville CA have way more important things to do. Sheriff's deputies have pulled up on me flying over construction sites and never gave me any shit ...very polite ...never asked me for ID. They wondered why I was just standing there ....then they figured it out .....politely waited for me to land and we started bullshited about the drones they use. Cool to hang and talk about drone stuff. Nice

[@KenHeron]

You're very lucky.

[@WavesandFalls]

I’m from Placerville. Ponderosa 1990.

[@sollithTech]

Some of the regulations are bullshit and make no sense unless you work for a corporation doing drone deliver or work for NASA or some DoD contractor or something. In the case of most "amateur photographer" types, some of the rules don't make sense, particularly for light sub-250g drones (a ball at the park can have way more force behind it if it accidently hits someone in many circumstances...); its basically a glorified, over engineered tripod. As far as privacy goes, are they going to start auto blurring phone cameras that can now zoom up to 100x, getting a reasonably clear photo of someone up to a mile or more away, like some dystopian Black Mirror episode? Drones are noisy; you won't even know my camera phone was there. That being said, stricter regulations in a densely populated urban area do make sense, and requiring some basic education and training in general is good to filter out some types, but the knee-jerk laws and regulations from some butthurt official are usually just never helpful to anyone except a few people's egos.

[@taylormeyers8780]

So my question is in reference to the upcoming Remote ID requirement. On the FAA's web page for recreational drone flight there's a list of 9 criteria you must follow, number 8 has a note that states that all drones that are required to be registered will also be required to have remote ID. My question is; does that mean if I register my sub-250g drone, will I be required to get remote ID as well?

[@vividvault9285]

I have never read anywhere or heard from anyone at any point ever that 250 grams or less allows you to bypass faa. However, the faa does not require you to register as long as you are not using the drone for commercial purpose and you are not performing any action that is only permitted via having a license, which would include flying a drone higher that 250 grams. I don't think anyone believes that 250 grams or less allows you to bypass faa regulations. It seems more so the person you're discussing just misunderstood the regulation, not disregarded it.

[@tom1986ca]

If you register a drone, are you then required to broadcast RID on that drone? With the Mini 4 Pro, the drone does not transmit RID if using the standard battery but does if you use the Mini 3 Pro or extended battery. If registering the drone makes RID transmission a requirement, then it will cost me the price of either new batteries or a module in addition to the $5 registration fee. This is the reason mine isn't registered as I only fly recreationally and I only own the standard batteries for my drone.

[@KenHeron]

Well, nobody ever said the government uses logic when implementing policy.

[@tom1986ca]

@@KenHeron no, but we're still required to adhere to current laws. If registering a drone then requires that drone to broadcast RID, and you're drone currently doesn't require RID and doesn't broadcast it (such as the mini 4 pro), that would be a good reason not to register it.

[@wmnsriteslol]

Yes yes...just register everything ...the government SURELY won't use the information to affect you negatively. Oh no no no. Just comply...it'll alllllll be fine 👀

[@GodswillBDone4WeThePeople]

😂 you def paying attention Ty 😂😂

[@wmnsriteslol]

@@TTime685 not me man...regardless of where you stood on the virus...watching how the government moved over the last 3 years shows me exactly what they would do if the shit really hits the fan. Yall can comply. I'm going to do what I always have. Enjoy my hobby responsibly. Stay away from people. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

[@jackdempsy3350]

It’s what’s wrong with the community, all these people wanting to dictate what they feel is the rules and law without even understanding it truly themselves .Just selling their service for their websites . Everyone wants to be to be all tell all , so much mixed up miss information in this vid , but oh .. join our website and we’ll teach you .

[@KenHeron]

Exactly. Education is key: remotepilot101.com/

[@jackdempsy3350]

Lol point exactly

[@SunriseWaterMedia]

I'm curious what you're referring to exactly. Where is the misinformation?

[@phottomatt4202]

"Your not being tracked" LOL dream on little dreamer.

[@frankmoreau8847]

Sub 250 because I don't want to register my recreational drone and I don't want to add a remote ID to my drone. Of course you have follow the rules, but I don't want Karens using a drone tracking phone app to harass me in my own yard. These guys are full of it, or they are focused on only on Part 107. I definitely would stay away from remotepilot101, the guy's arrogance was annoying.

[@victororo462]

It seems like if you don't need to register, they still push you and deceive you so you'll pay for the class and be on your way to registering. That's what I keep finding.

[@entergamer5]

the dumb thing abt remote id is that any and every drone will need it, even sub 250's.

[@shelydon78]

LOL Frankly

[@Zachary77]

Mass non-compliance is the only way.

[@shelydon78]

@@Zachary77 LOL

[@draggerlane04090]

I own several drones now. I just purchased a mini 3 pro and already had to mod it to get rid of that stupid remote id crap. As of right now I only have one drone registered My original Mavic. I don't even fly it anymore. I also have 3 others above the 250g weight I will NOT register them due to the fact of this remote id crap. It's no bodies business knowing where I am at or any other information about me or my drone.

[@derp195]

Could you please point me in the direction of doing this myself? I’m technologically (software and hardware) capable, yet I’ve been completely unable to find any resources on how this might be done. I’m getting a mini 3 pro in the next few days, but only if I know I can ensure that remote id isn’t forced on me.

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

Not knowing the FAA rules I post the European rules saying that flying above crowds is prohibited. A "crowd" is a mass of people unable to run away due to the surrounding people. Of course getting close, zooming in and identifying people is prohibited. Filming buildings under construction is no problem. It's rather popular!

[@DonEdward]

I'm beginning to rethink wanting to get involved with drones. Too much government licenses that can be taken away for BS reasons (and fines too). Also, there seem to be Karens all over the place threatening to narc on anyone flying drones (even legally) around every corner!

[@KenHeron]

Nah, it's not that bad. Hop in the drone pool... The water is fine!

[@frigateaviation5047]

I have a question, will lighter than air UAS (less than 250g), like foreign countries like the China’s “weather balloon”, require remote ID?

[@HR91360]

A year later... And i still cant figure out why a 5k-$500k car requires a 36$ fee for a license... But a 200-1200$ drone license costs 175$ for the equivalent of permission to upload footage by a third party no less😂😂😂 And even then you can still get charged or "fee'd" for something trivial.

[@KenHeron]

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense

[@GoatZilla]

Not once did you state the actual benefit of registering. If I lose a drone and want it back, I can just put my phone number on it. Outside of that, you gave zero reasons why it is a benefit to me.

[@sollithTech]

They did mention it; said something about if they have a flyaway and "if some well intentioned" person wanted to return the drone they found, etc.

[@GoatZilla]

@@sollithTech "outside of that"

[@dingalarm]

@@GoatZilla Indeed, placing a phone number on free flight and RC models was standard practice years ago, way before this silly registration system was introduced.

[@MtnManJack]

Not benefit of registering. The dude who said “just register everything” is a moron, a government bootlicker.

[@sotonin]

Wrong. you in fact can fly over people and vehicles with a sub 250g drone. You can not fly over "crowds" of people like sporting events or protests. "Do not fly the drone over groups of people It is not allowed for you to fly the drone over stadiums or sports events."

[@alanmichael5619]

To be fair Sub 250g matters more in Europe - especially in the UK - which is likely where the myth comes from

[@trapperjohn6089]

That’s crazy. I put videos on KZbin of my town’s library and the county judge executive hired me to do a topographic map of a county property Where they are building a new park. I think a lot of it just depends on the concentration of assholes in any particular area.

[@KenHeron]

True. The cool people to asshole quotient is a skew in this country. 🤓

[@trapperjohn6089]

If you go to my channel looking for the one of the Library it’s called safety day I think. The property at the county had me do a topographical survey on coincidentally is the same property from the video on my channel called housefire

[@trapperjohn6089]

@@KenHeron My county is really nice. It’s Webster county Kentucky, you probably know it. It’s the Walmart dead zone in between Madisonville and Henderson. Come to think of it, I think the reason why my county is so good is because we don’t have a Walmart.

[@unmannedaerialoperations9003]

@@trapperjohn6089 What does a local government pay for a topo map?

[@SoloRenegade]

no need to register

[@HeartlessGlitch]

People shouldnt be walking under my drone.

[@firstsurvivor7600]

Sub 250g is a big deal in other countries like in Canada. Sub 250g is only bound to CAR 900.06 in section IX or the CARs. No registration, no certification, no specific restriction for controlled airspace (though not recommended). NOTAMs, class F restricted still apply though.

[@thomashardy9994]

It’s a big deal in the USA also with Remote ID around the corner. A few of these guys have been saying sub 250 is no big deal and cannot back away from that statement.

[@LaClippersFan310]

Drones that weigh less than 250 grams and are being used recreationally do not need to comply with Remote ID. All drones that weigh above the threshold and are being used recreationally, however, still need to comply. Drones used by the Federal government are exempted from Remote ID requirements.Aug 29, 2022 (Is this true???) Please confirm.

[@rkdbaj]

So remote id for us but not them!

[@aarons7615]

3:00 this is not true at all.. i had to contact the FAA because my neighbor shot my drone down and the FAA told me the sub 250 drones are considered toys and do not fall under the FAA laws... the FAA guy went on to tell me that any damages my neighbor did to my drone would be considered vandalism by the police and to make a report with them. he also said that if the drone was a larger drone that needed to be registered it would fall under their jurisdiction. the guy told me that if i register the sub 250 drone and not use it for commercial, it still wouldn't matter.

[@KenHeron]

Then you dialed a wrong number. Look up the number for your local FSDO. If the person you spoke with said they worked for the FAA, they were probably the janitor.

[@Angelum_Band]

One reply has been censored. What were they saying?

[@HR91360]

I get you guys like to poke fun at overly paranoid people but with how everything is going with social credit systems and police busting people for "future crimes" Im starting to expand my thoughts to include these once outrageous claims as possible, perhaps not probable, but possible nonetheless.

[@brandonnonya3680]

I'm from the government and im here to help

[@ellobo1326]

I think the FAA testing procedures are totally out of touch with reality. I earned a sport pilot’s license many years ago that was understood to be for my powered parachute. On it was questions about how to land and position a tail dragger airplane correctly for the wind. Another was how airliners vertically space themselves at 25-30 thousand feet, depending on their compass heading. Many such more. That’s like putting questions on a plumbers test concerning what the boiling point of water on Jupiter is. FAA is totally out of touch with reality and too lazy and cheap to hire proper test designers.

[@gobysky]

I’ve got all my pilots licenses including an ATP. The so-called trick questions were carefully designed to make you fully understand the material instead of just filling the squares for passing the test. Study the material and understand it, instead of studying to pass the test.

[@FPV_TOMMY]

I will never register any of my drones and ive been flying since 2017

[@jakthebomb]

Rolls eyes on draconian rules that don't actually make people safer.

[@jeffs7915]

What makes people fly safer?

[@treynolds94]

Watching from Canada the amount of freedom and 0 restrictions with our sub 250g drones is crazy. We are so lucky to have the freedom we have. Able to fly over people, cars, roads, and no height or VLOS restrictions. Use common sense and dont be dumb are the only must for sub 250g drones here. I have had my mini for 2 weeks and have been up to 500m 3kms out more then these Americans have for years of owning because they cant well not legally.

[@canadiangemstones7636]

America regulates featherweight drones... but not machine guns. Madness. 😮😢😮

[@YaBoiSnek]

@@canadiangemstones7636 with all due respect what the hell are you talking about? Fully automatic guns have been illegal and heavily regulated for decades lmao. The process to legally obtaining one is both extremely time consuming and wildly expensive.

[@KeljaSamiNation]

Canadians in general are smarter! 😊

[@neglafar973]

​@@canadiangemstones7636machine guns are regulated

[@MeAndMyOpinions_OverYours]

Nobody cares about or flys into canada that's why 🤳 And no, even to get a pistol you need to pass a background check and can't be a felon.....unless your joe Biden son then any laws you break including gun laws are just pardoned 💁

[@UHDGamers-re2xj]

In the UK and the CAA we can fly lower than 50m with people. However we can’t fly over crowds that aren’t able to move out the way of something goes wrong. We do need to register the drone because its got a camera. However the only thing in the UK is they don’t give a minimum distance, so I can imagine the law using that for its advantage.

[@jamesemery1]

there is no separation distance with less than 250g in the uk, as long as you're not flying it like a dick it's not a problem

[@pnwsurfing]

Great vid! Saved for reference later. I totally avoided flying over cars and people but this transit exception will be handy.

[@TeamYankee2]

Yay!!! in the UK we can fly sub 250g over people, traffic and built up areas etc. - just not a "crowd".

[@robertvarwig3962]

Its probably someone on city council who just got into drones and their being drone police because they became acquainted with the rules and think they know everything.

[@75echo]

Ken, i expected you to mention that this ONLY applies in the USA. Another reason i thank God that i live in Europe, we can fly our 249g drones everywhere under the current rules. Normal rules appy- i.e away from the airport, mill. installations , 70km/hr roads and not deliberately over people. Secondly , 249g drones do NOT have to be registered with the authorities in Europe. Thank God the FAA rules do not apply here.

[@TLK22]

But you are legally limited to 25mW.

[@75echo]

@@TLK22 correct, but that is not what we are talking about. We are talking about where you are allowed to fly all sub 250g drones. It makes no use to have over 1000mw if you can even use it freely, get the point?

[@AirScottyfpv]

The FAA are RATS 🐀

[@TLK22]

@@SkeezyFPV I'm in Thailand lol. My license say that I'm allowed 1W for 5.8Ghz but in theory 95% of the country is a no-fly zone but everybody ignore it.

[@PhreddCrintt]

This does not apply to the UK. UK CCA Rules are different. Any UK viewers watching this are strongly advised to revisit the CCA Rules governing Drone weight classifications. Also - be aware there are changes kicking in on Jan 1. 2023.

[@victormiranda9163]

I feel the FAA rules are well past reasonable. they see no difference from fix wing four or more rotors and gliders with out without FPV. there are real rules they could use and leave it at that.

[@mountainskyaerialphotograp3921]

This is just another example of government overreach on something they don't like. Afterall, it is Conneticut(SP)

[@robertfpv7733]

Ha I live it Connecticut lol this is why I don’t post much drone stuff bc Connecticut if full of Karens

[@BigBadJones]

These towns are out of control. All the government is unfortunately.

[@timfischer]

So if you're part 107 you have to register the drone. And if you have to register it, you need remoteID. How do you handle it with a drone like the DJI Mini 2 SE that doesn't support RemoteID? Adding the module costs half again as much as the whole drone.

[@BeefNEggs057]

Just register. Compliant people are destined to be ruled by tyrants. Never do anything voluntarily when the government is asking.

[@dingalarm]

Err... don't you mean "Just *don't* register" ? 🤔🙄

[@billyho911]

The best thing about the sub 250gram drones.... it's good to take out of the country. Many countries will allow you to fly these Mini Drones in there country if under Sub 250 because it bypases the registration of that country. Mexico and Greece have been the two that has helped me.

[@Shauny_D]

I tried registering my parakeet just for fun. They weigh more than most of the drones I fly and have much better range. Haha! Too bad they don't have serial numbers to be registered.

[@yellowleafproduction7221]

I fly in Europe, have a Mini 3. It needs to be registered and insured, but I can fly over people and property. I have a license also. So, perhaps not in the US, but in Europe the below 250g is a legal limit.

[@vanvugtdronecinematography7769]

Yeah, there's a difference in regulations when you are flying with a sub 250 gram drone in Europe or the USA. But Ken is talking about the FAA (USA) rules.

[@Yamanotefy]

@@vanvugtdronecinematography7769 Agreed. Would still be better for Ken to put up "FAA" or "US" in the title for many first flyers. 😉

[@KenHeron]

I would have thought that the FAA logo in the thumbnail would have covered that. 🤓👍

[@TheMCEagles]

This is FAA…..

[@Yamanotefy]

@@KenHeron For me it's absolutely fine but I know that when searching, it will be helpful to have it as text too. By the way, I love your videos all around drones. Many greetings to Kentucky, where I have yet to travel too. Are all people as nice and funny as you there? 🤗👍

[@WA4OSH]

The City has ZERO authority over airspace; the FAA does. I wonder why he did not say that he was flying under 49 USC 44809 (Recreational) instead of 14 CFR 107. 1) He was flying for the pure joy of flying 2) He was following a CBO's safety guidelines 3) Flying within visual line of sight. If FPV, he had a VO. 4) He was not interfering with aircraft 5) He was not in Class A, B, C, D or E airspace 5) He was flying in Class G airspace, under 400 ft AGL, 6) He did not say he had an FAA Trust certificate 6) and under recreational rules, he does not need a registration for drones under 250g. 7) He did not indicate that he had propeller guards.

[@garymathe9863]

Cities don't have authority over airspace BUT more and more are passing ordinances that prohibit launching/landing on city property, essentially outlawing drones entirely.

[@WA4OSH]

@@garymathe9863 The same wokesters want electri air taxies and drone delivery. Go figure

[@andreadossi]

Actually in Europe sub 250 is very useful, besides the no license requirement, we are allowed to fly over roads and uninvolved people of courts not groups of people tho

[@ryancheesman400]

Also, how about regulating manned helicopters to force them to fly above 500ft? Most of the incidents have been with helicopters flying to low. They should only be allowed to fly that low on landing or takeoff. Even police helicopters. 500 and below should be the people's airspace.

[@bruzote]

New regulations are not always an improvement if they have loopholes or are not enforced (or don't fairly address the problem). I used to live near the approach to a runway at a busy (USA's busiest?) "executive" airport. During days of very low clouds, the bad pilots (sh*tty pilots who can't fly) would rather get under the clouds and fly a visual approach *under the legal altitude limits*. They would be dropping below their legal minimum altitude to do this just so they could see the airfield. They could really rattle and rumble the neighborhood. (What kind of crappy pilot needs to do that? If you can't fly, quit.) Anyhow, this behavior was not discouraged strongly enough, IMO. As I heard it, some locals would even spot the tail numbers on these jets and report them. However, for companies getting in trouble, they could supposedly mitigate the impact on their operations with loopholes. First, they could swap out their aircraft so one with a different tail number would be handling that true. I don't have all the accurate specifics, but I assure they were too low and violating regulations, but the regs didn't matter to them.

[@ryancheesman400]

@@bruzote sounds like Van Nuys. Anyways, you are right, but remote ID won't work either. Most GA pilots won't have the gear to be alerted to the presence of your drone. Everybody needs their space, so why not stick with what's always been the case for RC which is 300AGL. Let the rest fly above 500.

[@AstroNootFPV]

The

[@KenHeron]

I'm in the US.

[@zeyadbassiouny8898]

@@KenHeron lol same

[@chrisfev01]

I’m so sick and tired of everything being over-regulated. I’ve flown Giant scale RC aircraft for decades. We “policed” ourselves in an effort to prevent these regs from infringing on the hobby. But with all things there are always bad actors that ruin it for everyone else. That famous Shakespeare quote about lawyers comes to mind 🤔

[@vasilyru]

FAA is not your friend.

[@mikesterloc]

That rule only applies to the USA. In some parts of the world, under 250 drones have different flight rules than the larger drones and not just registration.

[@mw87]

Yes in the Uk CAA rules allow us to fly drones less than 250g over people (not crowds of people) and in urban areas close to buildings with no restriction except restricted airspace such as prisons/airports etc. All you need is a flyer ID marked marked on the drone which requires a fee and passing a simple quiz on the law relating to drones. However, the caveat is that the operator is required to always minimise risks to people and property so you can still be found guilty of flying recklessly if you don’t take account of conditions and modify your flying accordingly.

[@FPVenius]

I was thinking the same thing, but they had just previously mentioned something about the FAA, so I thought it was clear in retrospect. Good call out though, in case anyone in another country missed it.

[@fastdamo]

I was thinking that in the UK (and Europe?) 250g was allowed to fly over people. We live in a global information space these days and people seem prone to confusing US and UK laws as many videos, if you do not watch content from that channel often, does not always make clear the country its content refers to. Social media is usually a very unreliable source for facts as opinion is often sold as fact without any reference to where rules and regulations can be found. People like Ken are in short supply as many others will tell you things that are just going to get you in trouble

[@koalatails5711]

In Australia a hobby flier does not have to be registered, or at a CASA approved field, to use a sub 250g aircraft. They must maintain LOS, & stay (horizontally) 30m away from people, cars, & buildings.

[@chrisbourque8692]

I suppose FAA Part 107 is different. But in Canada a sub 250 CAN fly over people. This is because specific regs don't apply. However general safety does, but general safety is only loosely defined. So sub 250 is very important in Canada still.

[@jeremyleonbarlow]

A sub-250 gram drone in the US with rotor guards would be a category 1 drone and can transit over cars or people. It can actually fly over crowds of people if it is people who consented and/or are part of the production.

[@chrisbourque8692]

@@jeremyleonbarlow but if the people are just random strangers, does FAA explicitly state you still can't fly over people with sub-250? Like, is it a written regulation? In Canada, they just say to use caution when flying sub-250, but there are no written regs that apply specifically to them.

[@jeremyleonbarlow]

@@chrisbourque8692 yes it's highly regulated. The hard part is there are few sub-250 drones that will remain sub-250 drones with blade guards and if it exceeds 250-grams it becomes a category 2 drone which cannot be self-certified by the owner and must be certified by the manufacturer. There is like 1 category 2 & 1 category 3 drone that has been certified and the rules regarding category 2 & 3 drones are much more stringent and limited.

[@jeremyleonbarlow]

@@chrisbourque8692 with a category 1 you don't need consent to transit over people or moving vehicles, but like I said, it is not easy to find a sub-250 drone that will still be sub-250 with rotor guards on. There cannot be parts that could cause lacerations is part of the regulation, hence the need for rotor guards.

[@richardkille7256]

Important point on the 249g magic number: in the UK it absolutely is a magic number. The guidelines here have massively reduced restrictions if you are under 250g, which include zero minimum separation from buildings and uninvolved people, and the ability to fly in build up areas.

[@702Wolfi]

The more people comply, the harder the crack down will be.

[@TaterRogers]

I think I got my audio fixed! I think it was a skype problem with it trying to do noise cancellation on its own.

[@th0m]

I'm amazed the city took the time to repeatedly demand proof of his license when they had his first and last name.. Did they really think it was easier to keep asking rather than look up his license themselves on the faa site? LOL

[@StephanieFerrante_]

Hey. I was wondering why my mini battery was dropping faster than usual lately. It’s been hot the last while in NJ. I ended up getting another battery. It definitely explains it. Thanks for the content and hard work.

[@ultramega8792]

its not a Gun, I am not going to Register Mine, its a Hobby, Not Real Rocket Science.

[@marcmcreynolds2827]

I'm retired. Driving for me is a hobby. Nice to know that I don't have to license my car, stop at red lights, etc. Maybe someone will get hurt as a result, but that's ok because I'm just doing my hobby.

[@Felix-Memoria.]

@@marcmcreynolds2827 a drone that is for hobyist weigs under a kilo, a car weigs over 1000 kilo.

[@marcmcreynolds2827]

"a drone that is for hobyist weigs (weighs) under a kilo, a car weigs (weighs) over 1000 kilo" How true, but the subject is whether or not public risk stops mattering just because someone is doing something for fun instead of profit. BTW during my time in the aircraft engineering business, the "bird test" was done at not a lot more than a kilo, vs 1000. It's notable that in public comments during the FAA rulmaking process, some aircraft companies wanted the "toy" limit set at 0 g. 250 g was the FAA striking a balance between various interests. Airspace traffic below 400 ft is about to look a whole lot different than it has for the past hundred-plus years, and regulators are preparing for that. Sure, I wish I could just keep doing what I've always done, but like it or not the world is changing.

[@ultramega8792]

@@marcmcreynolds2827 You Have Not made a point Yet for Public Safety, So Babble is no reason for Abuse of Congress To regulate For Proffit's of Spy Materials needed To Spy on USA People with their Own Devices, I will not pay, To Pay for People to Police That Wich Has no Public Safety in mind, But only has intent to Regulate it into Confiscations. Like I said its not a Gun and Has No intent for Abuse to the Public for Safety, No Terrorist is Gunna Reister a Drone to Get Caught intentionally for Abusing its intent. The US Forest Sirvice no longer Takes Care of the Forest, it Polices it. Fences The Public off From it.

[@yodaiam1000]

@@marcmcreynolds2827 The risk for 2tonne car is orders of magnitude higher than a sub 250gram RPAS. It is a bad analogy. By that logic baseball, kite flying, golf, playing catch, fresbee, etc should all be band. These activities also extend into the lower airspace.

[@soulitis]

A license is only required in commerce if your a employed or doing business. Than you need lic because you can only operate something in commerce. Like when you call a operator and they pic up the phone. When you call them outside of work they are not operating there phone or a operator. Register is commerce. To give permission to take it. Let’s be honest about registering if it wasn’t that big of a deal than they wouldn’t need you to and make you engage in commerce with $5 it’s to get you under there rule. Out of your right to do it. Into a privilege to do so. 😉 and that’s the truth no one’s trying to speak on

[@Zachary77]

This is so true! The government routinely abuse people's ignorance of the structuring and application of the various types of law.