I own a Goldwing (non-DCT) and Jerry is absolutely correct on the low speed issues. Practice, practice, practice. Some people can't handle the facts.
@markbarrett4482 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I own a street glide and a 05 goldwing. Slow speed operation is different, not impossible on a goldwing gl1800.
@theokomulainen75498 ай бұрын
I use 2nd gear on the wing. Non dct
@ericscott18953 жыл бұрын
I would agree. A Goldwing takes a higher level of skill to operate at low speeds. Not an issue if the rider raises their skill level for the bike they own. As an experienced GW rider, I absolutely love the overall riding experience on my wing.
@jamesravencraft87893 жыл бұрын
Me too! Love my antique wing!
@wingandhog3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I love my GL1800 and my Harley Electra Glide
@ericscott18953 жыл бұрын
@@jameswalker2116 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@keithchrysler37323 жыл бұрын
My 96 GW is a far better handling than those new ones. In my opinion, Honda really screwed up!
@gohjohan2 жыл бұрын
@@jameswalker2116 That's because James, there is no top pak and this brings the centre of gravity a lot more lower. I tried the 2017 Goldwing that has ABS and Jerry's right. The bike is sensitive with the throttle and braking. I currently own the VTX1300S(R) and I can handle that bike reasonably well. With the Goldwing, I have to keep my game up.
@davidfalgout73042 жыл бұрын
Seems like another good reason to ride a Goldwing! When Folks see you master these turns, they can say, " That dude knows how to ride" !!
@ronmason17103 жыл бұрын
I have owned and ridden the Gold Wing exclusively since their introduction since 1975. I have crossed the continent many times, so I have put the miles in. Everything you say about the Wing is exactly true. Slow speed is the challenge and when I have dropped them, it was at slow speed. I still believe that for what I want a motorcycle to do it is the hands down best bike on the market. As I’m getting old, and the weight of the bike gets too much I will have to get a smaller bike, stop my long trips and just putter around the area and reminisce about the good old days.
@f42un84u7 ай бұрын
The important thing is you live life your way😊
@my2wheels3 жыл бұрын
All these people with “Gold Wings” should sign up a day with you and your course. Learn from your life best lessons. I agree with everything said by you. Keep up with the great work. Practice practice!
@motorman8573 жыл бұрын
The complainers telling me how wrong I am would NEVER sign up for my course because they'd quickly find out how wrong they are and nobody likes to admit they are wrong.
@my2wheels3 жыл бұрын
On check Jerry!
@wpankey572 жыл бұрын
I respect and appreciate anyone that makes the effort to learn how to "Ride Like a Pro." Great stuff.
@bittysmallssea50063 жыл бұрын
2013 Honda Goldwing F6B rider here. How dare you Jerry! :) Thank you very much for all you do, and especially for your Goldwing advice in this video.
@raverez0973 жыл бұрын
spot on.
@2002drumsonly3 жыл бұрын
Lots of good points for anyone who has concerns about slow-speed maneuvering. Great content with pros and cons about the wing. Honest and direct.
@gwrider18m923 жыл бұрын
Love the videos Jerry, I bought your Ride Like a Pro series after I bought my 2018 GoldWing manual trans and I practice a minimum of one hour every week with my own cones at a local school. All riders need to practice more than they currently are I'm sure of it but if the bike is a little more difficult to handle then practice is paramount. The difference in my abilities before and after your lessons is just night and day for me because I was one of those riders that didn't put in the time until a good teacher set me strait on what it was I was doing wrong. Thanks for the knowledge and keep up the great work, just leave the hawks be, they probably don't care for the noise you make either, live and let live.
@timburkhalter1143 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’ve been practicing and been struggling with my Goldwing wondering if there is just something I’m not understanding. I will keep practicing now knowing that Goldwings are just a bit more difficult. Makes me feel sooooo much better.
@motorman8573 жыл бұрын
Try using 2nd gear.
@timburkhalter1143 жыл бұрын
@@motorman857 I will most certainly will try that. Thanks for posting all the great info on how to be a better rider. My Goldwing used to push me around and I never really enjoyed the bike like I did my smaller bike, but now I feel a lot more in control and the bike is coming alive as I learn how to handle it. Blessings from Texas!!!!!!
@daniellewis7793 жыл бұрын
@@timburkhalter114 I can identify with ya on those feelings. The more I practice, the more confident and easier it has become to ride at slow speeds. I still have trouble. This video has spoken volumes for me.
@LynxStarAuto3 жыл бұрын
@@timburkhalter114 You have a manual or a DCT? On the newer Goldwings, certain settings start you off in second I hear.
@lonzophil3 жыл бұрын
USS DARTER SS 576....
@heloinaddict2 жыл бұрын
Years ago had a Goldwing Interstate 1981 Model took my endorsement test with it. The State Patrol Officer conducting the test told me he'd never seen anyone ride the bike around the course like I did, he commented that the use of clutch, rear brake, throttle, and front brake and combinations there of, as I did it was impressive, and issued a score of 100. I did have to repeat the swerve , avoid and stop exercise once, because I did the first one so fast that the test results would not be believed. It's been 27 years since I sold that bike. Now at 62, just having survived cancer chemotherapy radiation and surgery, I've bought a 1986 Aspencade SEi 1200. It's heavier, longer, doesn't have the death wobble at eighty five mph the 1100 had, and the fork rake angle is greater feels more stable but, like your explaining, this Goldwing is nothing like my previous bike, on the 1100 I could stand on the pegs lean into the handle bars and whip the bike around like a dirt bike and at very low speeds, mind you not on pavement, tires were to grippy. Not being as bold and physically fit as I was back when and recovering from my cancer and the treatment I can see it's going to be some time before I might get back to my former abilities. I figure this is as good of form of therapy and having fun at the same time. Ride on dudes.
@JohnCunningham-sy5ug22 күн бұрын
Your story is like mine I had stopped riding when kids came along for about 5 years bought an 84 aspencade in 89 did the the state trooper test in front of a group of younger riders. The trooper sad to the group thats how ya do it. Lol.
@DTRider13 жыл бұрын
You definitely have to have solid skills to ride a Goldwing, I love mine, at low speeds you better know what you're doing, but I like the feel of a heavy bike and hugs the road like no other bike I've owned.
@edwardarsena87743 жыл бұрын
I.m a Goldwing guy I respect your teaching and wish before I converted it into a trike that I had your training cause it was more difficult to handle especially with my wife on back. that's why we converted it.. That made such a difference feels more safer and a little less to have to worry about without giving up the big bike ride we enjoy especially from the Goldwing.. Enjoy your video's Thanks
@kimberly3234 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't sure I agreed with you until I took your course on my Goldwing F6B. I did ok in the first wide angle zig zag but had trouble doing the tight U-turns. I've ridden many large bikes, love my Goldwing, but you are correct, takes a lot of practice to master a Goldwing .
@campnut60763 жыл бұрын
Jerry, I'm on my 3rd Goldwing. I wont disagree with you, it is difficult to do low speed maneuvers. You have to practice and I hate gravel. I am confident at low speed if I'm alone, with my wife on the back, all bets are off.
@yoso5853 жыл бұрын
Yep. With the wife I have nothing to prove and take all the parking lot to do what I gotta do.
@jameshenderson72243 жыл бұрын
People don't want to admit they are wrong. Preach on brother. No truer words ever spoken.
@donpet82583 жыл бұрын
Iv had 3 gold wings and many harleys. And what your saying is EXACTLY right ! Even had 2012 k1600gtl. That will make gold wing look good at slow speed. The clutch and throttle are basically switches you turn on or off, good luck !!
@soujrnr Жыл бұрын
Just for the record, I hate DCTs. And Jerry, I watched your RLAP videos BEFORE I bought my bikes, and now I have a Gold Wing. I learned from YOU how to handle my Wing at slow speed by watching your videos. You weren't using a Wing in your videos, but you DID cover the physics of how bikes respond using throttle, brake, and friction zone. My Wing does require a lot more "finesse" than my Suzuki Boulevard C90T bagger. I can turn my C90T on a dime; not quite so much on the Wing. PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE!!
@thesaltyham71446 ай бұрын
I just acquired a 1981 gl1100 goldwing interstate about a month ago and have been practicing the low speed turns in my driveway as we have a large driveway to work with. I am starting to get much better with the turns now that I have had time to practice. I changed classes of bikes from a 2004 Yamaha XT225 dualsport. I could easily do this course on the dualsport but being the goldwing is my first big boy bike, I am finding you videos super helpful. Thanks for the videos!
@danrahn98633 жыл бұрын
I went from a 2009 Honda Shadow Spirit 750 w/5-speed to a 2018 Honda Goldwing Tour DCT and, yes, practice will aid in doing slow-speed maneuvers. Thank you, Jerry, for this video, as I need to practice often; muscle memory. P.S. - I've taken two CHP Total Control classes here in California in the past 3 years; 2018 and 2021.
@tropicalsnow4 ай бұрын
i went from shadow to goldwing wish i kept it
@jc-pj3nh3 жыл бұрын
Owned a goldwing, my ultra classic electraglide was much more comfortable to handle. This will make you chuckle but after watching this video, now I understand why I used to say the Harley make me enjoy riding slow.
@Pnove503 жыл бұрын
Hi Motorman. I own a 1998 Goldwing Aspencade. Your comments about how the bike is balanced for low speed turning are very well founded. It is heavy in the front and it tends to dive in low speed turns. Thanks to you and your advice of using the throttle, the rear brake, and turning your head I can do a very tight U-turn with my Goldwing, even with a passenger, and almost have the bike standing still. Also knowing how to use the front weight of the bike to your advantage is important. Numerous times i have been in an almost stand still traffic situation, even with a with a passenger, and need to change lanes, and I let the front of the bike "fall" to the direction I want to change lanes to, and then accelerate, and the bike stands right up in the new lane. Knowing the bike, how it balances, and using your techniques are key. Thanks again for all your advice!
@rafaelrodriguez11243 жыл бұрын
I own an 2013 F6B GW and it is a challenging bike to maneuver at low speeds and in tight quarters. I can't even count how many times I've dropped it, especially at busy gas stations were folks are distracted. I love my GW, but you are right, it is a beast of bike to handle at low speeds. Thank you for your great videos...
@JohnCunningham-sy5ug22 күн бұрын
You are Absolutely correct its practice. I had a 1984 wing its was a dream to handle. Sold it in 2004 had four Harleys since they are very good at low speed because steering lock to lock . Just got a GL 1800 so it's off to empty parking lot as soon as spring arrives. Practice practice. So true. 😊
@TexasSteele673 жыл бұрын
Jerry, I've had my 750lb 2019 Non-tour 3 months now and yer spot on with the DCT- throttle and rear brake is key
@bobcronin648 ай бұрын
I'm a 2010 Honda wing rider. I will tell you that I'm grateful for the videos that you have put on youtube. I have picked up a overload of great information from the videos. I'm looking to sign up to you're course very soon. Thank You for the great information on these bikes.
@motorman8578 ай бұрын
Glad to help
@roadglide3 жыл бұрын
100% correct Jerry. Practice makes perfect. Just do it.
@mr.solitude33523 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jerry. I love the magic of repetition. You can't repeat mentioning a valuable skill often enough. Glad you also included a bike's wheel base into the equation of making sharp turns too.
@ducksoff72366 ай бұрын
I love when people make statements and don't back it up. It makes me laugh. I have a gen 1 VMax and lately I have more fun riding it slow then fast. It corners like sh** at high speed. Full lock U turns make me grin ear to ear all day long though. Jerry with this channel and Moto Control did so much for my riding. Control at slow speed has boosted my capability at high speed in general. Especially when it comes to swerving and threshold breaking. I've never once came close to over shooting a corner since I actually learned to control the bike like I did before making slow speed practice a part of my regular riding. Every year it actually becomes a bigger part because it just gets more fun the further you can push it. Thanks Jerry!
@johntrakcompanies71333 жыл бұрын
Jerry, thanks so much for the vids!!! Yes, I ride a Goldwing DCT and yes, I am becoming more and more proficient using the rear brake and riding friction zone in Tour (default) mode. But as you say it takes practice. Having owned many bikes over the years, I've learned their strengths and weaknesses. I owned an '06 Wing which was ok. My only complaint was it as a tad under powered and a bit of a gas hog. But, it turned fine. Never any complaints and it had no problems in tight quarters. The DCT is a replacement for the BMW GTL. It was a great handling bike! The DCT is the best handling Wing I've owned. I like it a lot. In fact more than I thought I would. It is stable and to me, forgiving. It's also a good handling bike and like many Wing riders, I call it the ST1800. I like riding it and I respect and appreciate your teaching!!! Like the airplane, I have respect for what it does and won't do and how to stay out of trouble. Over confidence will kill you. Timidity and fright doesn't help either. Just practice, do what you tell us. It's not hard at all. Keep 'em coming, k?
@ericcurrence84773 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 Goldwing DCT and I totally agree with everything you've said. I had a Yamaha V-Star before and that bike was MUCH easier to control at slow speed.
@kman-mi7su3 жыл бұрын
"Put in the practice" true words spoken Goldwing, Harley, Yamaha, Suzuki, whatever, put in the practice.
@westfletcher92193 жыл бұрын
You mean money can’t buy me good riding skills
@kman-mi7su3 жыл бұрын
@@westfletcher9219 Nope
@skinl193 жыл бұрын
After watching this and the previous video on difficult slow speed bikes I wanted to add that I highly agree. I got back into riding last year after being out of motorcycling for 30 years but bought a smaller bike to relearn on, and then bought a used wing so that my wife and I could travel together. We used to tour on older Suzuki GS1000's. When I got the wing I couldn't believe how uncomfortable I felt, especially with a passenger, even though I was practicing slow speed drills. I decided to sell the wing this summer and ended up buying a Honda ST1100 and my confidence level immediately was restored. It felt a lot more natural and easier to handle, even though it is also a heavy bike. My wife commented after her first ride that she could feel my confidence level was up as well.
@_skud Жыл бұрын
Ever since I first saw the goldwing I knew I was going to find myself riding one eventually. I am practicing on my current bike, and even have an experienced Rider course tomorrow. I love riding. Learning and improving is empowering.
@rickbush29143 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. When I started to learn low speed skills (with the help of my friend, a retired OPP motor officer), I was riding a 2010 Goldwing 1800. With his help I improved to what I think was a huge degree. As old age set in the "locked in" riding position on the GLA1800, the famous hip pain that goes along with that bike was going to shorten my riding life. I decided to try an FLHTK Harley and the comfort and handling was amazing. Like you pointed out, the far wider friction zone, the far less snappy throttle, the shorter wheelbase, and the steeper rake makes the Harley far nicer to handle in tight quarters. I have no idea if the Harley specs and design were based upon motor officer input but someone in the design department knew what was needed to assure ease of handling at low speed in tight quarters,
@klt4793 жыл бұрын
I have put 50k miles on my 2018 goldwing. The low-speed handling appears to be great. The low center of gravity, balance and remarkable throttle control makes low speed maneuvering amazing. For instance it makes very tight u-turns effortlessly for a heavy relatively long wheel base as long as you understand how and when to drag the rear brake.
@mmcguire56872 жыл бұрын
2018 and newer are a foot shorter than previous models.
@marklubecke48543 жыл бұрын
Honesty is always the best policy. Facts are facts. 👍
@kevinhowey42862 жыл бұрын
Jerry you are completely right in all aspects about a GoldWing. I been a GoldWing rider for a long time. Spent time in class. It remains difficult on the wing in tight turns. We ride 2 up a lot. Whole different beast at that point. When jumping on the son's Road King using the same techniques the HD is like a VStar for me. Each year as I bring the bike back out I have to "re-practice" tight turns. One thing I did not hear you say... maybe its not important, it is for me. Tire pressure and shock pressure makes a tremendous difference in slow speed handling. The other part is replacing and maintaining the steering knuckle bearing. Many knuckle bearings are "slightly" bad and riders miss it. Hard to feel. From WIng to Wing I found the after market fork support makes a difference in slow turn. You do such a great job in your videos. Thank you.
@hcderksen3 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of miles on 1500 and 1800 Goldwing and have to agree with everything you are saying. I bought your video years ago and it definitely helped me but still learned more with this video. I practiced a lot in parking lots. Thank you.
@daniellewis7793 жыл бұрын
Thank you explaining the Goldwing slow speed maneuvering. I thought it was something going on with my GW. It is a little difficult to find that sweet spot at low speeds. I need to continue to practice, practice, practice. Again, thanks for focusing on the Goldwing. It was encouraging.
@ken2tou2 жыл бұрын
You are spot on Jerry. I owned a ‘89 and ‘02 Goldwing. They were a bit top heavy, especially with a loaded with bags and a passenger. Slow speed wasn’t too difficult, and took practice. I have a Harley now and find it easier to handle at any speed. The Goldwing has a refined feel on the road, but I like the Harley ride experience. More like a hot rod, vs a sport bike.
@justanotherviewer523 жыл бұрын
Thanks Motorman. I will try to convince my Gold Wing buddies to practice more.
@motorman8573 жыл бұрын
Please do!
@mnewstadt13 жыл бұрын
Please have all your buddies practice more...
@DexQuin6 ай бұрын
I own a DCT model and Jerry is telling the truth. It’s one of the hardest bikes to ride at slow speeds. You have to learn to work the throttle and rear brake in harmony.
@doncarlo57 ай бұрын
Jerry you are the man! He knows what he‘s talking about … and he proves it!
@Art_jr9 ай бұрын
I just found your channel by watching this video and just bought a 02 Wing. Thank you for the explanation and why I feel like I'm struggling with slow speed turns and the whole head and eyes thing! I start every ride with a practice session simply for this reason. Thank you.
@motorman8579 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@r.williamcomm76935 ай бұрын
Jerry’s “Ride Like a Pro” videos are what gave me the confidence to buy a Gold Wing. Practice makes perfect.
@kittycorner85262 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I'm 72 and I've owned four Harleys, two Yamaha cruisers, two Hondas, and my very first bike was a Suzuki TC 200 two-stroke. The Harleys are much easier to ride than most other brands. Everything just seems to be more dialed-in. They did a lot of research developing the bikes over the years. Maintaining the traditional Harley experience while keeping in step with technology.
@dr.michaelbennett85973 жыл бұрын
Jerry is completely correct. I have a 2018 Goldwing manual shift. The critical thing is head, eyes, speed, and fear. You must turn your head and look where you WANT to go. You must also do between 8-10 mph. The Goldwing will do figure 8s in an 18x36 space. I had spine surgery in January. When I went to the local school to practice after a layoff from December to April when I was cleared-wow! Twisting to look was a huge limitation and I had to limit myself to five minutes at a time. Stop practicing on a good moment and come back. Additionally, he is correct about the Harley. He is not explaining this from bias because he is “a Harley guy,” he is explaining the design facts. Make no mistake, above 10 miles per hour, given similar rider skill, the Goldwing easily outperforms a Harley. I use econo for slow maneuvers because the throttle is extremely sensitive.
@motorman8573 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@raverez0973 жыл бұрын
I'm on my first Goldwing, an 2013 F6B, after owning two Valkyries. Both models are long but both can be handled with practice. And patience. Thanks for these videos, hope to get to Fla and take your course one day.
@davidbrennan53 жыл бұрын
I saw a large group of Police Officers at our local Walmart and they set up a big course to show off skills from each department and I was shocked at how well the large Harley Davidson Bikes handled with some seasoned riders behind the bars.
@alripley53352 жыл бұрын
I've only ridden 90s 1500 Gwings. Huge learning curve as they're beasts. Top heavy and weigh near 900 lbs wet- half a ton with a bit of gear. They are great on the road and handle well. They're a real workout in the city. Low speed takes some practice due to the wgt. They are virtually indestructible and maintenance is not bad at all and cheap. Only 2 holes for oil's and that final drive only uses about 5 oz of lubes. Great bikes and fun as hell traveling on them. I live in the sticks so they have enough storage capacity, (including the pass. seat) that they make great grocery haulers. Ride safe.
@NRALifeMbr3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 DCT Tour and came off of a 2003 Goldwing ABS. I had 288,000 miles on the 2003 when I sold it. I took several MSF courses on the 2003 model so I know what a friction zone is supposed to feel like. I had a concern when I bought the DCT model that slow speeds would be difficult and they are. I think the thing that saves me is that knowing what the friction zone feels like previously, let me play the back brake vs Throttle so that it feels like a friction zone and most of the time I'm successful but not always. What you are saying is truth in that the throttle is touchy and just takes loads of practice. Putting Goldstrike grips on with a larger diameter gave me a little more leverage and helped too. I'm lucky that there is a local school, Oklahoma State University OKC that has an MSF course laid out in their parking lot and you can ride by and practice during the daytime. The course is part of their precision driving school. I recently took a Ready to Ride course there and the instructors gave me a couple of tips that really helped. I make it by that school almost once a week to practice. Some days, I'm all over it and some days you look like a rookie. The bike is definitely capable but you will have to dedicate some practice to be proficient.
@motorman8573 жыл бұрын
That was exactly the point of the video. Oddly, on the internet, some people just want to act like they are offended and they are right and I am wrong. Odder still, none of the complainers posted a video of them whipping their DCT's around with ease.
@NRALifeMbr3 жыл бұрын
@@motorman857 Well, I'm not butt hurt like a lot of Goldwing riders. I understand the limitations and I practice with my bike as much as I can. I'm not as good on this bike as my previous Goldwing but I'm getting there. When I master it, I'll try to shoot a video for you but I'm not there yet. Keep up the great content, those Goldwing egos will get over it.
@billhouse85852 жыл бұрын
Jerry you are ABSOLUYLY CORRECT !! I'm a retired cop and I own a Harley FLHP and a Goldwing. For all the reasons you mention I struggle to get the Wing through 18ft maneuvers and find I must be PERFECT with speed and position to make it work. I only know one other Wing rider who can make 18'. so when other Wing riders tell me "no problem", I say. "show me". In most cases it turns into a 30' exercise. I tell my students not to be discouraged watching the Harleys or smaller cruiser bike zip through the course. They are steering a PT boat and your a battle ship driver.
@motorman8572 жыл бұрын
No doubt, it can be done on a Wing but it will take a lot more practice to get really good on a Wing vs a H.D. touring bike.
@bigO19603 жыл бұрын
I watched your videos on you tube When I had a BMW K1200 LT. I went to a parking lot and practiced doing tighter and tighter figure eights for about 2 weeks. I was at my local costco to get just a few things. I parked near the front door when I came out there were carts around my bike. so I climbed on my bike and started it. I heard this doubter say you will never get it out of there. I slipped the clutch and made 3 perfect turns to avoid obstacles, and was on my way as I heard him say I don't believe it.
@johnlocke60203 жыл бұрын
I took this class in August in Pgh. Had a great time and learned a lot.
@DarthBop2 жыл бұрын
Something I have learned since the first time I watched this video, on the Goldwing, If you are on the rear brake doing slow speed you are on front and rear.The brake pedal activates both the front and rear brake calipers,
@motorman8572 жыл бұрын
Linked brakes have nothing to do with why the Wing is a difficult bike to handle at low speeds. If you press so hard on the rear brake that it affects the front brake, you haven't mastered the technique. Harley touring bikes have linked brakes as well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqeZiYiYoKx2qck
@DarthBop2 жыл бұрын
@@motorman857 I'll take your word for it. I don't own a wing and my Yamaha does not have linked brakes. I was just saying.
@jimschwenk74693 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a GL1500 and it really becomes crucial to know what you're doing when you decide to put your lady on the back and go for a ride. I also run a Yamaha 1700 Roadstar and they are like night and day. The Roadie is basically a Heritage Softail w respect to looks and handling. But I love my old Wing.
@kc5hgv3 жыл бұрын
Jerry I had a 2004 Goldwing for about 9 years after I sold it I found a 2018 TOUR non-DCT in May of 2020. It was reduced $6800.00 off MSRP. I traded my Indian Cruiser for it because being spoiled to the ride. It seems like everyone is going for the DCT's. I prefer using a cultch for a Motorcycle. You are absolutely right on the Goldwing on low speed handling I agree on your comment because I own one. In my new bike I ordered some aftermarket Case Bars for it because I don't think the new design is good enough for a tip over like my old one.
@noelsantiago31593 жыл бұрын
I agree i own a goldwing and boy boy low speeds are very hard but it's a beautiful bike I'll just keep practicing and it will make me that much better. Great video! Thank you
@marknye51.thefixitguy Жыл бұрын
You are so right Jerry. I owned a 1980 KZ1300A2 Kawasaki and was a great bike. Unfortunately I sold it back in 1992.. I road a few other bikes since then but really want a touring bike for long rides, quiet and comfortable that I could afford. I found a great deal on a 1998 GL1500SE in 2018 with very low miles. I was 66 at the time and it much better shape than I am now at 71. The Goldwing is very hard to maneuver at low speeds, and now that I live in Oahu Hawaii it's even harder to ride. Not many open roads to go for long rides. I am looking into a BMW R1200GS Adventure Bike because of the areas I want to get to here. Thank you for all your videos.
@antoinesguitar2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for that very important information. I haven’t ridden bike’s in many years but I’m really looking at purchasing a Goldwing. And I know now to definitely look for a class in my area.
@motorman8572 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jomanout58662 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of the crash bars or engine guard bars that my Goldwing has, I have dropped it 2 or 3 times all at low speed and it didn't damage the body at all. Just a few scratches on the corners of the bars. I'm an inexperienced rider but I've been practicing low speed and have improved, super fun
@bryanperron6748 Жыл бұрын
I have a road king and a gold wing both 2008 Jerry you are so right the harley turns and manuvers way better at low speed turns.The harley makes my hands go to sleep so I do not ride it that much.The gold wing throttle is very jerky at slow speed.I have adjusted the throttle both ways not much different either way
@motorman857 Жыл бұрын
Try using 2nd gear on the Wing for low speed turns.
@tdross13273 жыл бұрын
Great video! As a wing owner, I too have to agree that it takes alot of practice to skilfully handle a wing confidently at low speeds. The wing is a beautiful bike for touring! Thanks for the awesome tips and explanations on motorcycle safety!
@splodge573 жыл бұрын
The lighter the bike the easier to manoeuvre. I had a 183kg Kawasaki zx9r, beautifully balanced and easy to ride at any speed.
@jimmyt552 жыл бұрын
Jerry, I thank you for and providing this information. My experience is with a ‘75 GW, back before 1980 for two seasons (about 6 months in Chicago). My 22 GoldWing is due to arrive next week., sold my Indian scout before winter. I have the motorman dvd. I plan on reviewing the techniques and practicing a good bit. I’ve been warned about sensitive throttle by wire of the latest Honda’s. I love your commitment to safety education. Really appreciate it! Ride safe Motorman
@GamingGuruXD2 жыл бұрын
I just got a 2022 DCT Goldwing and I have to just say you are ABSOLUTELY correct about them being very different to a manual Goldwing. I had to pretty much re-learn my low speed riding because how you handle a DCT is so very different to a manual, there is no feathering of the clutch on a DCT, you have to rely more on using the rear brake.
@mybibleandmybike2 жыл бұрын
I have a Goldwing bagger DCT model and I love it...its my first bike outside of the Can Am Spyder and your absolutely correct..Practice practice practice...
@georgeh20953 жыл бұрын
My ‘08 Wing eats up slow speed maneuvers. Yes, the bike is longer; I found the throttle and clutch no more difficult to master than any other motorcycle. At this time, I am more proficient at slow-speed maneuvers on my Wing than on my ST1300PA. It all comes down to putting in the effort to practice.
@dco9563 жыл бұрын
I'll eat all y'all up on my 03 magna
@just_your_localguard9612 Жыл бұрын
@dco956 oh I'll eat you on my honda Rebel
@ellobo13263 жыл бұрын
I have had my 2021 GW DCT tour for 8 weeks now and agree that the throttle is very sensitive and i can tell it will take quite some time to master the rear brake. I hate to admit it, but I never practiced low speed maneuvers on my 09 GW. I just returned to riding after a 10 year hiatus and great channels like this and MCRider etc. were unknown to me years ago. I’m glad you posted this video because it will keep me from maybe getting discouraged on my slow speed stuff.
@doordevloer91053 жыл бұрын
I thought Honda did some improvements to the acute throttle response at low speeds, but apparently it is still on the snappy side. Great bikes though: beautiful, comfortable, better lean angle, reliable. Enjoy it.
@livelovebarf47353 жыл бұрын
I know what the bike is behind you!! Seen it at my local dealer. Absolutely beautiful!!!!
@dabike3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2018 Goldwing DCT 8 months ago and I knew it wasn't my lack of skills with low speed handling, it's the Goldwing's fault ;) Anyway, I do love my Goldwing DCT and will put in the time and effort to get my skill level up. Hopefully some day I'll be in one of your classes.
@mikesimmons99303 жыл бұрын
I had a Roadstar and pretty much mastered the handling of it. I just bought a Goldwing and I am going through the learning curve of how it handles. I haven't dropped it but came damn close. Practice makes perfect.
@ianstorms31493 жыл бұрын
I’m an adventure bike guy, thousands of miles on an KLR 650 and on a BMW GS. It’s alllll about clutch control and balance when you’re maneuvering over rocks and in ruts so I know exactly what you’re talking about. Had the chance to go out and and put a couple thousand miles on one of the new DCT wings and WOW. Knew it was gonna be heavy but the bike is incredibly well balanced and I picked it up pretty quick. (Yes I’m young) I loved the slow speed maneuvering (and FAST) of that bike. I could full lock and turn that thing no problem. Not a pro but I seriously enjoyed it. (Even without a clutch) Guy on the black wing was impressive. The low seat on the Harleys have always scared me lol, I’m pretty tall and it feels wrong to be that relaxed on a bike. Guess I just like sitting up! (It’s the GS brainwashing) Nice videos anyways, you’ve got a LOT more miles than me and some very educational videos!
@itstheeyeofthetiger92 жыл бұрын
I found using 2nd gear on my 2012 helps mush out that sensitive throttle issue. Tight u-turns with much more confidence in 2nd vs 1st.
@thegagsy13 жыл бұрын
Totally agree i practice low speed manoeuvres on mine and at first you drop it because its such a fine clutch and heavy bike like having a work out, but pays dividends when you have passenger on the back and you need to do slow manoeuvre in car parks etcetera.
@bw60783 жыл бұрын
As always, great information. Many thanks.
@logangallagher70503 жыл бұрын
A very interesting video, makes you appreciate the way these teachers teach motorcycle training.
@motorman8573 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@dalewalker56729 ай бұрын
i have an 01 wing and agree, but practice a lot. It's the shaft drive vs belt or chain
@dannhennells26813 жыл бұрын
Great video, Can't argue the fact low speed is challenging, I notice it most when going from turning right to immediately turning left, as my arm extends, the throttle is pulled and the bike will jump.takes practice to get comfortable.
@trashbuster28963 жыл бұрын
I have an 08 Goldwing. I bought your "Ride Like a Pro" video last summer and try to practice often. I can make 20' u-turns fairly consistently with the Goldwing. I also own a Honda Shadow 1100. The Shadow steers horrible compared to the Goldwing but I have no trouble making consistent 18' u-turns on the Shadow. Thanks for this video and the one about the five most difficult to handle bikes. It explains why I haven't consistently achieved 18' u-turns on the wing.
@mabii19992 жыл бұрын
I a brand new wing rider but my previous bike was a Yamaha 1700. Love both bikes but admit I need some training. I have rides since I was 12 and now I'm 52. A person can always learn.
@northcoastdyna3 жыл бұрын
You got a Electra Glide Revival! Me too! Can’t wait to see what you put out about it! Love that bike! Love your videos! I’ve learned so much! Thank you!
@motorman8573 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I didn't get one.
@usmcvet03133 жыл бұрын
Dang, sure looks like one!
@motorman8573 жыл бұрын
@@usmcvet0313 I'll have to keep you in suspense till the next video.
@usmcvet03133 жыл бұрын
@@motorman857 👀 I like the white seat on the Revival. I have a '11 RK Peace Officer edition, and that white would look good on the black with blue pin stripe. 🤙
@voiceaddict2 жыл бұрын
When I bought my ST1100, the deal gave me a sheet of paper with cone layouts, told me to go buy some cones and practice low speed riding. I think I put about an hour a day into it for the first month and it completely changed my 20 year relationship with that bike.
@reydejesus37062 жыл бұрын
I have a Goldwing and you are so right!! I dropped my bike a few times on slow speed. Freaking heave motorcycle and I love it so much for long rides. Great show btw👍🏼👍🏼
@JazAero Жыл бұрын
I just recently discovered your videos Jerry and even though this one's two years old, I think it is still worthy of a comment. I've owned my 94 GL1500SE for just over 20 years. I am an all year rider and have even been caught in a blizzard or two but in all those years I can count on less than one hand how many times the bike has been belly up. twice because of soft pavement under the kickstand before I learned about carrying a 2 inch metal plate and once because I actually put my foot down at my mailbox and missed the pavement and stepped on a soft spot and rolled the bike on top of me. But never while riding and never with a passenger. I actually get a kick out of riding it slow because it is more difficult and requires a different skill set. I approach slow riding it mentally as if it was as a oversized trials bike. no it's not going to climb any rocks but I do get a kick out of pretending it will. but watching your videos has shown me that I still have much to learn even though I've been riding 55 + out of my 65 years. thanks for showing this old dog a few new tricks.
@koolhand12 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I’m a 2006 wing rider. Practice makes perfect…ride like a pro!!!
@Bululdaya2 жыл бұрын
I'd say you're on point about the wing. I rode with the drill team for awhile and our technique was always, clutch in friction zone, rpm up to about 1500, rear brake drag, then counter lean. It' s a lot at first but once mastered, tight turns are a breeze. In reference to the "sensitive throttle", this has more to do with the high torque values of the engine. Slight throttle input, and the power is instant.. With the clutch in the friction zone, this mitigates the "dumping" of the power.
@richardahola6923 жыл бұрын
I ride an old Gold Wing and love it. I was wondering about the double clutch. I use the clutch all the time at low speeds. You have helped me tremendously with your videos. What you say about the fact makes sense
@BrandonWest872 жыл бұрын
The guy on the black wing did a fantastic job! You can tell he’s got a lot of practice hours with his bike. 👏
@harleyandthegoldwing73453 жыл бұрын
You're speaking the truth Jerry ... I have a Goldwing and I have to practice slow-speed maneuvers constantly to keep myself comfortable. I also have a Harley Road Glide and it's much more responsive on the throttle ...
@Todd663 жыл бұрын
I had a 02 Gold Wing and thought it did pretty good at low speeds. I had nothing to compare it to and even with all my years of riding, I never trained low speed handling. However I am confident that if I had another GW, I would be fine after a few classes with Jerry. I’ve been riding on the street regularly since mid 80’s and I have owned a handful of motorcycles...the gold wing was one of my favorite bikes. I LOVE this channel!!!
@mrvoyagerm3 жыл бұрын
I had my first one for twenty years and my second one for seven. Never crossed my mind that they were difficult to ride. We rode them in all kinds of weather, asphalt and lots of gravel roads including getting caught in a freak spring snow storm. Trust me there is nothing like riding a 900+ lb bike with a passenger on snow. That will get your attention :)
@SaddleTrampTV3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 98 electra glide last year; my first bagger. Been riding 20 years now, and I was surprised at how much better that bike handles at low speeds than my other bikes.
@SaddleTrampTV3 жыл бұрын
@Merle J. Stadnyk I like the older stuff.
@robdonell99152 жыл бұрын
I ride a Yamaha Stratoliner new since 2006. This year I put a car tire on the rear. The handling concern is when you ride over two uneven surfaces.; it wants to continue on the lower surface.
@GBeWinginIt3 жыл бұрын
I own and vlog aboard a 2018 DCT TOUR AIRBAG and you are correct. It takes practice and skill. And those pre 2018 Goldwing owners are a sensitive bunch. Many of whom haven’t gotten over Honda not updating their lump for over a decade and then giving the next generation all the goods. Now there is a difference with the slow speed handling in rain mode with rear brake modulation but that too takes practice. Great video.
@edwardallan197 Жыл бұрын
I am getting a clean 78 Wing soon, Jerry. I will be studying and learning with you. Leaving a little 450 Rebel.
@wadeblake34513 жыл бұрын
I very much appreciate your perspective Gerry. I currently have concours 14 and after three years of practicing at least once a week 7 months a year, I have noticed a significant improvement in most slow speed drills. I was thinking about a new wing and your views will certainly inform my decision going forward. Thanks for doing what you do.
@motorman8573 жыл бұрын
Try using 2nd gear for low speeds on that Concours.
@wadeblake34513 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jerry. Will do.
@MichaelKantormusic3 жыл бұрын
On the DCT put it on rain mode. The throttle is less responsive and you get the friction zone easier without jumping. After learning it reset to your mode.
@redriverbluesman2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Motivating me to practice more slow riding on my 07 Wing! I fall into the category you mention of it being the only bike I really know for slow riding. I've ridden Harleys, since the 70's, even with Suicide Shifters, but was young and not into practicing slow riding. Moved through several smaller bikes, 400's and eventually settled into a 81 Suzuki GS 750 for basic getting around town. Got the Wing in 08, primarily for touring/camping, pulling an Aspen Camper trailer behind it. Was surprised myself how well I did in various skill competitions I entered with our national club rallies, winning 1st place overall 3 times over a few years, but have always wanted to try something else. I won 3 slow rides, one with passenger, and all in bumpy fields. Harley's look smooth on obstacle courses while I seem a little more tentative. I have used 2nd gear before on very tight slow turns because of the throttle sensitivity in low, but that is also something that takes a bit of practice to get use to. Anyway, thanks for the facts. Too bad so many of the Wing representatives got their gitch in a bind!
@robdonell99152 жыл бұрын
I’m new to Goldwing shopping but admit I am 40 years to date street motorcyclist. Wish I had an extra $20 K .