Don't Buy a Meraki DVT3 Espresso Machine Until You See This Teardown!

[@LOLBTLOLBT]

the quality is actually impressive, parts look easy to change

[@wolfgangroser1649]

Ganz großes Kino! Danke für's Zeigen. Die Meraki wird immer interessanter. Wahrscheinlich kaufe ich sie mir. Die Funktionen sind jedenfalls genau die, die ich brauche. Das sollten die Italiener mit ihren Blechkübeln sehen und verstehen, das eine neue Ära angebrochen ist. Nix mehr mit 30 Minuten Aufheizzeit und scharfkantigen Gehäuseecken, an denen man sich schneiden kann. Einfach eine neue Zeit. Super und nochmals Danke für's Zeigen.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Sehr gerne! Schön dass dir das Video gefallen hat - macht auf jeden Fall Spaß unter der Haube zu schauen. Gruß!

[@1101naomi]

Always great to see the inner workings of a machine. Thanks!

[@thedeep3]

I bought a coffee machine ECP3240. Thank you for all your advice on this model. The espresso comes out great!

[@MvMx-v2l]

Thanks for the review and the opportunity for an inside sneak preview. A few months ago I had my finger above the “order” button but I decided not to. Thanks to your review I’m happy with that choice. The white one looks nice indeed!

[@Elmarvan94]

How so?

[@MvMx-v2l]

@ I preferred to have a separate grinder

[@nickscoffeestudio]

Great to see this teardown! I think we all wanted to know what's inside, but I've been too nervous to take mine apart

[@Karla_Finch-Cluff]

AHHH that machine is SOO BEAUTIFUL!! Black or White is gorgeous, but damn wish they had a RED machine because my morning self is so bleary-eyed and I like my 'Beverage' machines red to remind me where my favorite liquids come from lol. If no red option, Black will always be my choice ☕

[@Selvaggio666]

Ptfe is generaly really stable in migration tests, resistant to high temperature and steam, acids, and coffee.

[@gamingunit]

Nice, specially like a cheaper Delonghi vs a expensive delonghi teardown would be interesting to see how different its build.

[@FaithAndCoffeeBean]

Storm trooper white 👍😀 dig the color ❤

[@CookWithWood-iz5hi]

Great review as always, but at 1700 to 2000 euro there must be far better machines out there. Like La Spaziale or the new Oracle jet even the Nuova Simonelli, oh well I will have to stick to my cheap machine.

[@amhazey]

Is this really the end game machine? Looks like it to be fair. I am currently on the fence of getting a BDB but after studying the Meraki one, I mean its a no brainer at this point. Thoughts?

[@CJ_1995_]

The end game machine is personal preference and budget of course. However, a lot of people swear by the Decent espresso machine as the "End game" machine.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Well, I mean the Meraki includes a grinder, which the BDB doesn't. So it kind of depends on whether or not you already have a decent grinder. Honestly for me, I'd go with the BDB because it's been tried and true, with lots of forum entries on it at this point. Some people complain about Breville service, but I haven't had to deal with it yet, myself. Coffee-wise they both do an excellent job at espresso and milk foam.

[@fuzziestlumpkin]

I don't think any machine with an integrated grinder should be called "endgame". I use an integrated grinder every day and enjoy it by the way. It also lacks the things like flow control that you would really want if you are at that level. The term isn't very good though to be honest... As the comment above says, your "endgame" machine should be the one you're happy to use every day.

[@DuBstep115]

@@fuzziestlumpkin In reality endgame is cafelat robot and milk frother. If you want to cheap option then dreo barista maker if you want to spend a lot more then La Marzocco Wally as for grinder, pick whatever you like the best

[@DuBstep115]

@@CJ_1995_ First requirement of end game is that it has to be 100% serviceable and durable. Like La Pavoni Europiccola. You can buy it and expect it to be working in 2050.

[@LOLBTLOLBT]

although i don't like all in one but this is value

[@TeddyCavachon]

The current state of expresso machines is that anything with modern user interface has commercial grade plastic internals which will fail in two years and machines which have commercial grade metal internals up to and including $3000 machines have really primitive IU with a tiny one line display and set-up requiring non-intuitive pushing of two buttons to set all the parameters. In 2022 I bought a $530 GE Cafe Bellissimo which is made for GE by Breville with features of $1000 Breville but with nice UI that runs as an iPhone / iPad app instead of touch panel on the unit. It started leaking after 18 months and died after 2-1/2 years. It is unrepairable - no repair parts or support after one year during which if it fails they just send you a new machine. The Profitec Move $1995 is a nice commercial grade dual boiler fast startup machine with an auto timer but isn’t shipping until next year. Also on my short list is the Accasio Duo at around the same price point but it requires 20A circuit.

[@garrettkarow5924]

Any guess if this can be modded for pressure profiling? I’m curious because it’s a rotary pump and the pre infusion give a 3 or 4 bar option, as if the pressure can be finely adjusted.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

You can set a pressure and time duration - I just tried it at 4 bar and 10 seconds, and it does work. But for further profiling, I do not think there is an option yet.

[@prasannarn946]

Excellent teardown. Curious, are you an engineer by profession?

[@CoffeeAndSmoke23]

Reminds me of the old Kitchenaid Artisan dual boiler that Gaggia made..Of course the Artisan didnt have the built in grinder,but the aesthetic is similar..It still makes me wonder why Gaggia still hasn't built upon that dual boiler platform..

[@tanker0206]

Mind tearing down a gemilai 3131c or the latest one? Would love to see how well the build is for that price point.

[@wsteele5864]

I bought one, likely won't see it until March, we shall see. As far as the "end game" talk, at my age, my end game espresso machine will be the last one I bought. :)

[@iamMichaelScott57]

they send product to youtubers but not to customers , i've cancelled mine because of that !

[@wsteele5864]

@ having worked in a startup that built a hardware product, I definitely am glad they are sending the various prototypes to experienced reviewers. I am hoping mine has all the bugs worked out before I get mine.

[@lukefuno]

Nice review ❤

[@Earendilvingilot13]

I wonder if the retention of grinder got better

[@ck8jx]

Would have loved to see more of the teardown, including the pump, lines, circuit boards. Are the pressurized heated water pipes corrugated metal pipes or plastic? Looked plastic in that steam wand. And what’s your opinion on the overall build quality? I am disappointed with the lack of organization of the internal wires, cheap plastics everywhere. I had better expectations.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

If you watch the whole video, you'll see that I talk about the pressurized lines and mention they're made out of PTFE. Cheers!

[@ck8jx]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner yes I saw that in the group head, I was talking about the steam wand pipes. Appreciate the review.

[@regasoto]

The steam wand pipe seems to be metal. All other “plastic” wires are electrical wiring - rubber and plastic insulation is the norm.

[@TomJones-tx7pb]

No demo of the milk steamer?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Haha, this was just a teardown of the inside. The steamer is awesome, and I fully reviewed it back in summer. Cheers!

[@SteashEdits]

I like their value proposition and design language better than Breville, but how serviceable is this? If the pump were to be broken, it looks like it’s extremely difficult to access

[@tim_tool_man]

Thanks

[@rosegilman1454]

Any chance you know what the ninja cafe luxe has for insides? Also does the basket have plastic? Thnks for your reviews. Im on the fence❤

[@thegiantbull]

Nice teardown, very interesting machine. I like the machine and I really want it to test it but it's to expensive to buy only for give it a try. The white color is beautiful, looks way better than the black one.

[@earthalign2965]

So what do you think about this machine after teardown? It is good built inside or its very bad construction?

[@busra869]

Siemens kahve makinelerini Delonghi ile karşılaştırır mısınız?

[@MortenRyberg]

My biggest concerns: - No service center in Denmark where I live - No water filter, so stuck with finding soft water or other means of filtering - Dont know if they will be around in 5+ years

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

AFAIK they are going to share Timemore service centers, but yes it's a valid concern. I think it takes a long time for a new company to get established worldwide with service centers and everything.

[@SteashEdits]

A lot of (higher end) machines don’t come with a water filter. A 20 euro BWT pitcher would solve the job

[@TheEternalDevil]

hey as EC885 and Sage bambino both need to be imported thus making them a very far stretch from my budget. Also considering I'm probably gonna be mostly drink cappuccino or some other milk +espresso drink so Would Appreciate it a lot if you could just tell EC685 With rancilio Silvia v2 vs Sage bambino in terms of milk Frothing quality. which one is better i believe you have both or would have a rough idea on which makes better microform (i only make 1 cup of coffee). Depending on your response I'm gonna be deciding on what to do. Please respond Greetings from india

[@gosman949]

Don't see the website to buy this product?

[@jope7855]

For me, the Machine is a plastic bomber. More marketing than a longlife machine! And maybe, plastic in white will get a light yellow colour after a few years. By the way: Your video stuff is superb!

[@Shadowguy456234]

So much plastic... Have you ever tried out an ECM? The barista who was working with Eureka at the Gastro Messe owns a Synchronika :) Seems to be high quality at a more reasonable price than La Marzocco.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

The closest I've come to owning an ECM was a Rocket Giotto...took forever to warm up and it leaked, so I got rid of it.

[@Shadowguy456234]

​@@TomsCoffeeCorner Well, the Synchronika II supposedly heats up in 6.5 min - so maybe that is a thing of the past? :)

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@ The boilers great up fast enough, but the rest needs to warm up too. 👍🏻 😊

[@Shadowguy456234]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner Alright then, Manument it is!! 😁

[@Ramu-10]

I, too, prefer a white kitchen appliance 👴🏻 The black ones talk weird

[@OuchyEs]

Yes daddy

[@mrowlbert]

The design language of this machine does not work for me at all.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

It's definately different, that's for sure.

[@Phantoma3]

Too much plastic and I'm especially allergic to white plastic.

[@stephan3077]

Would never ever buy a coffee / espresso machine again with an integrated grinder.

[@danieltschmitt]

The title is annoying click bait. The video is okay.

[@danielkolland7225]

Sie nennen mich Kaffee

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

They call me Tom.

[@stephan3077]

You should get a t-shirt saying "They call me Tom, and I love voiding warranties" 😂

[@GiovanniGiorgio2024]

tbh, I would rather buy rancilio silvia and mod the the heck of it and have extra money for very decent grinder. It is built like a tank and parts are readily available

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

That's true, and Rancilio has awesome heritage. But, if you're doing milk drinks, it sucks to switch between espresso and steam temperatures because it takes a while and uses a lot of water to cool back down. That's why people pay extra for dual boilers.

[@stephan3077]

Portafilter, tamper, and leveler don't fit into the tamping station, ridiculous. Red flag for me, I would never buy from such a manufacturer.

[@peterraj256]

This company manufactured a product with this much plastic for $1500 USD. Remember, guys, these fellas will come into the market and give you something like this and vanish without a trace the next moment. To me, this is rubbish at the price point. Go with established brands. If you have any issues, you will have a service centre or parts available to fix them. The very fact that they have cut corners on little fittings by using plastic instead of steel or aluminium goes to show how much they want to take in as profits instead of giving customers something premium for what they pay for.

[@ZainAmjad]

Totally disagree. If they were that sort of company they wouldn't have been sending out review units to coffee enthusiasts, doing collabs with the likes of Timemore, etc. Just this week, they have partnered with Origin Coffee in the UK so they support the Coffee Sense feature (nfc config). That sort of commitment isn't cutting corners.

[@peterraj256]

@@ZainAmjad, Doing collabs, sending out review units, and tie-ups does not mean anything. Once they decide to pull out and disappear, there is nothing you can do. Please buy one since you strongly believe they will be present in the near future.

[@ZainAmjad]

@ I have bought one - I'll report back 🫡 after product care was my sole concern as well but the fact Timemore are sharing their space with them gives me comfort. Not to mention their team - it's not just a bunch of randos

[@jaehyonlee]

Every brand has to start somewhere.

[@ZainAmjad]

@@jaehyonlee exactly

[@DuBstep115]

the machine looks like it costs around $400 to put together

[@ricardot3488]

With two boilers, a rotary pump, 2 scales and temp probe on the steamwand? Yeah sure..

[@DuBstep115]

@ricardot3488 Have looked up what the parts cost retail. Now imagine how little the buy in cost is.

[@ricardot3488]

@@DuBstep115 then see what research, building the prototypes without earning anything and rent service centers, aftercare, etc costs..

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Oh, I very much doubt that.

[@JW77]

Please go ahead build one and sell for 300% profit. What a great business idea.

[@gordanbabic8028]

Already a new version? Very unfair to all those few who bought earlier version for 1,500€

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

No worries, this is the iteration people who ordered will get. The first 2 iterations were prototypes sent to reviewers only.

[@coenwouters6808]

these are all still prototypes if I'm correct. people who backed the program should receive the latest version.