DON'T buy gaming headphones, BUY IEMs instead! Review of IEMs for GAMING

[@DrogoDGN]

Budget $16 IEM kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2K5kH2Yjq-lY9ksi=fOhF99NIKY6zRaAy Budget $100 IEM kzbin.info/www/bejne/nonPeGiAdticeqssi=eGfYyf_ky-cPFxlH IEM with a microphone, kills gaming headsets kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5aXp6R5YtSXbpY

[@dannamanna99]

I love my Sony Izone but a negative with it being wireless is if battery dies. Can’t play and charge at same time. Where wireless headsets can. But I was surprised that sounds were easier to pin point better. Headsets I just get better bass feeling.

[@Tommy-te2lg]

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[@matthiasheide5226]

Linsoul zero 2 are the best for price and Performance.

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

@@matthiasheide5226I love that much for gaming IEMs

[@Markia-is9es]

@@matthiasheide5226 Linsoul zero 2 is best gaming IEMs under $100 ?

[@epicshitz]

If you don't like IEMs for gaming and want actual headphones look for "studio" headphones, they don't really have "soundstage" but have a more neutral sound which is good for games where you need to hear where footsteps or where gunfire is coming from.

[@MetaKnight964]

You need soundstage for distance.

[@diegomora7608]

not worth it, unless you have a problem with your ear canal.

[@DerickMcAfee]

Just get astro headset best headset iv evwr own3d for footsteps

[@JMRVRGS]

7hz Salnotes Zero

[@desibellsbeats]

Dt 990 pro 320 ohm + soundblaster g6

[@makunouchiippo816]

My hurting ear canals are saying NO to IEM's. 🙂

[@jtnachos16]

I think you maybe misunderstand something. IEMs have such 'clarity' mainly because of typcially much higher sensitivity and lower impedance than headphones. Most IEMs are literally 10ohms or less of impedance with sensitivities in excess of 110db. This means they don't need any sort of amping for hitting full soundstage and clarity, while most headphones bottom out at 32ohms impedance and are most frequently in the 90-100 range on sensitivity. This is why many 'gaming headphones' come with a usb dac+amp of some kind. It's also why many IEMs run into noise floors and hiss that requires a DAC or sometimes even an impedance adaptor of some kind to silence it. With over ear headphones, you need more power to fuel them. Without that power, you get more limited soundstage and clarity. They are also more effected by the cup shape,material, and the literal shape of your ears than IEMs are. For IEMs, so long as the seal is good, the tip pad is basically irrelevant aside comfort. Not so much on over ears. On ears are a different ball of wax entirely. There's also the issue of a lot of the common 'gaming headsets' being closed back, which tends to result in narrower soundstage and flawed imaging. You have to look at brands typically more 'non-gamer' to see open-back 'gamer headsets'. There's also issues with gamer-marketed headsets having tuning designed to emphasize certain ranges in frequency, that actually tend to just muddy things horribly, and many of the 'comes with the device' USB DAC/AMP things are actually hot garbo that do additional processing instead of just sending the signal. This gets worse as your budget drops, ftr. You'll find a LOT of benefit with even low tier 'gaming headphones' by adding a DAC into the mix. If you want good imaging, soundstage, and clarity out of headphones, you need to be looking at 'reference monitors' or 'studio headphones'. Even DT770 tends to be a massive step up in imaging over the typical 'gamer headset', and it's considered the 'king of entry level' for that, and that's with it being hampered by being closed back.

[@kapikopi]

Closed back means more bass clarity and bass in general. Open backs lack that

[@jtnachos16]

@@kapikopi It does not mean more 'bass clarity'. It means it's easier to get stronger bass. But it is not inherent that open backs have bad or muddy bass.

[@Zephyn]

Once I got into using IEMs I could not go back to gaming headsets or just headphones in general. They're just so much more comfortable when you're used to them, they sound so much better, and I've been able to hear things in-game better than I did with headsets. IEMs have also been so much more stylish, which is also very nice. Also, memory foam tips are super comfortable and help improve sound isolation and bass, which I am in love with.

[@ohji_]

which IEM do you use most?

[@Zephyn]

@@ohji_ Right now I've been using Moondrop Aria. I'm thinking of trying out either the 7hz Sonus or the Moondrop May next. I also used the Crinacle Zero in blue for a while which is also great, but I like how much louder the Aria gets.

[@B1INK]

I would say the sound is the biggest thing about iems I use truthear zerobut it needs a Apple usbc to aux I Donno why but useing this makes the sound 20% louder dose anyone know way that is I hear it’s cuz it has a built in ec?

[@3ildcard]

Honestly, HyperX Clouds are very well optimized for CS, i've been called a wallhacker because i've heard stuff others don't. But sound like sh&t in general just like most other headsets. IEM's, i don't get some of the sound q's in-game but sound quality is superior overall, much clearer and comfort levels are so much better than heavy headset that strains your neck in an hour and squeezes your head like a lemon giving you a headache.

[@FangMania9898]

how do you activate microphone the 3mm jack is only for audio right ......my pc is hv individually for mic jack and audio jack

[@florinmuresan9519]

Yeah so , the problem with IEM and the reason they are not for gaming is the fact that u SHOULDN T wear them for long periods of time. The pressure of in ear products causes alot of problem and serious ones , compared to the headsets. So for gaming where u consider 6-8+ hrs a day sesions in ear is an insanely stupid idea...

[@Dead1yProductions]

I've never had issues with comfort with headphones, to a degree i feel they are non issues and just like IEM's you need to look at what fits you best , not all ears are the same and not all heads are the same size .

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

Totally agree. What are your best gaming IEMs and or gaming headsets

[@DavidfromMichigan]

See that's my one problem with headphones. I wear glasses and my ears get crushed. Can only game a few hours until I can't go any further. Now I'm torn between item's. Which are the best.

[@Dead1yProductions]

@@DavidfromMichigan I my self wear glasses. I found soft ear cuffs work best so they don't press to hrd against the side of your head on the glasses . Some are a bit too stiff and end up being bothersome z but I like the ones I got .

[@Markia-is9es]

@@DavidfromMichigan just curious what are your best IEMs for gaming

[@DavidfromMichigan]

@@Markia-is9es I would say.. on a budget, either Truthear Nova or Asus Rog Speednova.

[@PvtDamion]

IEMs are amazing, but the price for low latency wireless ones are above my comfort zone. So I'll stick with headphones, also the comfort for long sessions is fine with me, it only becomes a problem and less comfortable above the 12 hour mark for me

[@Kazuki_Fuse]

As someone who usually plays Devil Daggers on occasion I find myself preferring IEMs rather than my HD6XX due to the unique noises each entity plays.

[@loYolVibes]

Ayeee I didn’t know anyone else really plays that game

[@Kazuki_Fuse]

@@loYolVibesIt's hooked me in for the better part of a few years now, only recently getting a 900+ score just recently. Insanely fun.

[@loYolVibes]

@@Kazuki_Fuse sheeesh hell yea

[@alanpalayoor9251]

what iems would you suggest?

[@Kazuki_Fuse]

@@alanpalayoor9251 Probably Truthear Zero Red if you're on a budget and know you can handle the large nozzle.

[@soloshottie]

"earbuds are better for comfort" okay but that's suuuuuuper preferential. I'd rather have earmuffs surrounding my ears than an earbud poking into my ear literally any day. if your headphones are hurting your ears, the shape and size of the earmuffs is probablt wrong and you should get a different headset

[@sleeplessguardian]

i feel the same way, i just CANT belive that overears are less comfy then in ears, just doesnt make any sense, i use both i would allways take over ears all day over in ears.

[@Tommy-te2lg]

@@sleeplessguardian What are your current IEM model used?

[@chefcorey8142]

Are you bald? Because that’s my biggest concern with over ear. It messes my hair up so bad.

[@soloshottie]

@@chefcorey8142 I'm not but I understand that problem

[@Tommy-te2lg]

@@chefcorey8142 Really so what are your choice for gaming, IEM or headset

[@Asortives]

Just bought the truthear hex :)

[@midknight198]

IEMs are the best for gaming for me. Its much more lighter and I can hear footsteps more clearer than some of my friends that wear headphones (but maybe their hearing just suck haha). I can notice more nuances to sounds compared to when I wore headphones (both IEM and headphone were of the same price)

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

You have a favorite gaming IEMs or headsets

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

Totally agree. Specially gaming IEMs have great pricing and value

[@DanHoyesvv4bv]

What is the good price range for your best gaming IEMs

[@chiizuu752]

​@@DanHoyesvv4bv$20 range: Tangzu Waner, Moondrop Chu II, Salnotes Zero

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

@@chiizuu752 Wow that are very cheap affordable gaming IEMs! Which gaming IEMs your best gaming choice for audio.

[@Bongodudeguy]

I find these in-ear devices increasingly uncomfortable over time. Inserting them into my ear canal is not something I prefer to do frequently. Additionally, the bi-weekly cleaning required to prevent ear infections only adds to the discomfort of owning these devices. Since I spend most of my time at my PC, larger, more cumbersome headphones are not an issue for me. However, people should choose what suits their needs best.

[@Tommy-te2lg]

Did you try a different ear plug size for your gaming IEMs?

[@timaragon]

As someone who has owned all these IEMs, if you plan on playing competitive games, stay FAR, FAR away from the Moondrop Aria. You will hear footsteps in Overwatch, Valorant or Siege, and they will sound very, very off. They will not be accurate at all and will only confuse you because of the subpad imaging and soundstage depth and space accuracy. Save yourself the trouble and only use the 7hz Salnotes zero and the Truthear x Crinacle Zero. My personal recommendation though is the Moondrop Chu 2 because the build is better quality than the 7hz Salnotes Zero and will do just as well in games.

[@dawnonyt1]

do you need an amp for these iems? im planning to buy the 7hz for valorant

[@kapikopi]

Zero red is objectively better

[@kapikopi]

@@dawnonyt1 get the zero:red. It’s an updated version with much higher clarity and less distortion with a more natural sounding tuning with a sub bass boost for footsteps. The zeros, zero reds, and 7hz zero all have dynamic drivers which means they are very easy to drive, my phone can run it without problems. Btw i would personally spend the extra bucks on the zero red instead of the 7hz zero or zero 2, they sound good for the price but are lacking in bass and don’t come close to the zero reds. The zero reds perform on par with 150-200$iems from just a year ago

[@sethviews]

Any words on the kiwi ears orchestra lites?

[@TheAroc23]

@@kapikopiwould you still recommend the zero reds?

[@maik5344]

"dont buy headphones, buy IEM´s instead" - tells us to do our own research for what to buy. why the fck did i came here then

[@Tommy-te2lg]

Why really?

[@Markia-is9es]

@@Tommy-te2lg iem is way better tho

[@sir-rover]

yeah this pisses me off why even make a video to point out for gamers if you dont even tell us what

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

@@sir-roverwhich IÉM you like most

[@Tommy-te2lg]

@@Markia-is9es Can you please share some good affordable IEMs? Thank you so much.

[@vortexeruption1434]

I don’t if this is only me but on the unit I bought the audio sounds weird in valorant the footsteps sound is so low and the gunfire sound is so high annoyingly high does anybody know how to tune the sound or fix this

[@SatanSlayerUK]

They are also bad for those that get regular ear infections unfortunately.

[@starsiren9592]

I just got the Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X and after using them for 3 days I want to send them back already. I bought them because I was looking for something very comfortable for long gaming sessions and everyone in the comments and reviews kept saying that they are extremely comfortable, but they absolutely aren't comfortable. They feel heavy, the cups get quite warm and aren't as soft or cushy as I hoped and the clamping force on my head is quite strong and makes my head hurt after a while, the headband isn't very soft and I have to move it constantly because it hurts my head. The sound is incredible for sure, but the discomfort is not worth it. My Sony WH-1000XM4 are orders of magnitude more comfortable. I will definitely be looking into some high-quality IEMs with good sound.

[@DanHoyesvv4bv]

Beside more comfortable, you think the sound quality of gaming IEM is better than that of gaming headsets?

[@JoannCoach]

Men I Suggest You To Get The Kiwi Orchestra Lite Or The Moondrop Aria 2 They Are Very Comfortable

[@1JamesZ]

I use IEM’s from my session musician days, the sound quality is tonnes better than any gaming headset. If you game daily, it’s best to use over ears some of the time otherwise your ear becomes a Petri dish and you’ll find your ears feeling gunky and clogged after a couple of weeks of constant use

[@Jenzible]

Q tips

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

@@Jenzible What is your budget for your gaming IEMs?

[@Jenzible]

@@epicardsdotcom1300 same as headphones. Currently i just use the cloud2 earbuds though. I’m done with headsets after using the razer kraken for 8 years😂

[@JanSzymczakowski-e1r]

I cant use IEMS cuz im deef on mine left ear (i need hearing aid)

[@snackymcgoo1539]

You lost me in first couple sentences. There is no possible way that top quality IEMs can compete or be better than full blown over ear headphones. THumbs down. I am outta here.

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

What are your top choices for audio headsets to better than gaming IEMs?

[@snackymcgoo1539]

@@epicardsdotcom1300 I am not an audiophile though I enjoy good quality sound. I have no recommendations. But as long as there is no intentional sabotaging going on, and best efforts are put forward, it doesn't seem possible for an IEM to outperform a larger platform headphone, and a headphone could not sound better than shelf speakers and a shelf speaker could not sound better than large floor standing speakers. First time I used earbuds were the standard Apple ones from 10 years ago. And I was impressed at what those little things accomplished. I can only imagine the quality of custom IEMs now. But how can they compare or be better? Just like global mainstream media lies through their teeth to their viewers (about EVERYTHING) and viewership and trust for them is rock bottom. You cannot make claims like "this IEM is better than best headphone" because it is BS. People know better. It is a lie. This channel will never grow with input like "this IEM is better".

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

@@snackymcgoo1539 Thank you for your honest feedback regarding gaming IEMs and audio headsets.

[@lescy_]

My ear canals hurt after 2hours using IEM lmao

[@nickhtk6285]

Solid video. Thanks.

[@ajiboyeolamide-k3r]

Why its a better audio headset?

[@gravity_armwrestler]

Can someone recommend me the best IEM solely for gaming like PUBG, COD Warzone, PUBGM, etc. under 100$? And open back headphones are better than IEM for gaming? What's your views about Koss KSC75, Philips SHP9500/9600 for gaming?

[@DrogoDGN]

@@gravity_armwrestler for a budget, I think iems are better. I would say truthear hexa, simgot em6l, or truthear zero are good options

[@shaolinmaster8583]

A good rule of thumb if your head set sounds muted u need a amp dac stack or a dac with a built-in amp

[@Markia-is9es]

Which a good affordable amp to use with IEM set up

[@SqueakyFishy]

Go to system>sound and then turn off mono audio for headphone users, this gave me directional super hearing in games

[@mindlessinfinite]

lmao

[@JohnMontello]

@@mindlessinfinite What are your recommendations for great gaming IEMs?

[@hentikirby7142]

No headphone, buds, or whatever product you use can tell you whether the enemy is above or not. literally been discussed already.

[@uzaira9088]

Yo tangzu wan er or kz castor for gaming,need good sound imaging.

[@skyewasthelimit]

I use IEM for live performance stuff and the one issue is ear wax build up and it can literally clog the sound canals. Other than that they are great! (Just clean your ears before use if you want to avoid this as much as possible)

[@Markia-is9es]

Do you use IEM for gaming

[@skyewasthelimit]

@@Markia-is9es not personally nope - I use a few diff sets depending on the game

[@Markia-is9es]

@@skyewasthelimit your top gaming IEMs?

[@KatelynNguyen-m9b]

which gaming IEMs you use?

[@skyewasthelimit]

Shure SE 215s

[@VincentPaulS]

I will ONLY buy IEMs from KZ (namely, KZ ZS6 or similar) - ~$50 for quad-driver hi-fi IEMs with some of the best bass you can get

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

Can you provide the comparison for best gaming IEMs and value practical cheap gaming IEMs

[@Markia-is9es]

That’s great value for great quality gaming IEMs

[@mrbonjangle]

Bought some headphones like these from Amazon. It was not this specific brand or pair, but they were of similar design. They were good for a long time, but yesterday I used them without the rubber and a piece broke off and got lodged in my ear. I’ll be going to a specialist to get it out. Hope it doesn’t fuck up my ear.

[@DrogoDGN]

@@mrbonjangle damn hope you're good

[@mrbonjangle]

@@DrogoDGN well I will tell you, it does not feel good having someone dig around your ear. Hopefully I can get it out tomorrow.

[@Markia-is9es]

What are your recommendations for good gaming headsets besides the gaming IEMs

[@mrbonjangle]

@@Markia-is9es in general? I’ve become a Corsair fan, but those can be expensive. They can get pricey, but it is probably better worth your money in the long run if you can keep them well maintained. I found that the mic on my IEM was never as good as people described it as. Whereas the pair of Corsair I use, the HS70 pro wireless, is on sale for $80. Be aware these are PC only. You’d have to look for some compatible with certain consoles. If you are looking for something cheap, just make sure your IEM is one complete mold. Basically the one I found, I did not know the mold that attached to the rubber was separately glued to the rest of the headphone. So after some time the small piece broke off and fell into my ear. It cost me $150 to remove, plus I still have an unknown ER bill I gotta pay, even though all they did was make my problem worse. For all I know, the pair in the video is a single mold, so you’ll have to find out for yourself.

[@JohnMontello]

@@mrbonjangle It would be nice to have a detailed comparison of the great gaming IEMs in one place.

[@HollowRick]

I've just done exactly this picked up some TruthHear Zero's theyre great for the price

[@Markia-is9es]

Which IEM model you get And how much

[@generalsquirrel9548]

I personally need to hear my self when talking bcs otherwise i start screaming unintentionally. So idk

[@Tommy-te2lg]

What are your best IEMs?

[@Markia-is9es]

Try good gaming IEMs with microphone

[@CocaineCobain]

You can add sidetone/feedback with software. I use complete noise cancellation for gaming, but have sidetone enabled. I can hear myself through my mic which allows me to adjust my volume whenever needed. I need sidetone now. lol

[@KatelynNguyen-m9b]

@@CocaineCobain wow that is great addition to gaming IEMs bro. Awesome

[@CocaineCobain]

@@KatelynNguyen-m9b Yessir. Bananameter is a great tool to add it. I have my IEM's hooked into my GoXLR ionterface so I can control that sidetone volume through their software, or manually on the device itself. super handy.

[@thegamerfromwonderland8707]

I never got that problem with getting hot... Im always cold, but i can understand for those who sweat allot. But i switch in between them. Sometimes i use headset, and sometimes the oh10. I really love them. Every cheap headset that came with a phone or wireless i did toss away. I dont go back to wireless. But the oh10 do hurt afther a while... Not sure why, maybe my ears are not that big causing pressure points.

[@Tommy-te2lg]

What are your other option for great gaming IEMs experiences

[@Yashiroll]

somehow my 2 dollar fake ones does the job, istg nothing gets past my ears on footsteps and audio queues

[@DrogoDGN]

@@Yashiroll W china iems

[@estroaye]

Mfw my friend's $2 IEM-shaped earphone has footstep sound on par with my entry level $15 set😔

[@wnster]

Love ur videos man, keep it up

[@DrogoDGN]

Tysm

[@yowamidesu]

Things marketed as "gaming" are typically mediocre to bad products that usually just have rgb slapped on to it. I've wasted more money than I'd like to admit on crappy headsets that would fall apart after a year or two and it wasn't until about ten to fifteen years of this that I finally just got a proper set of headphones that not only sounded better but were also comfortable for multiple hours and if I need voice chat, then that's as easy as getting a separate microphone.

[@AlexGomez-qt5sz]

Braaah I just use a cheap earbuds from skullcandy

[@DrogoDGN]

@@AlexGomez-qt5sz 💀

[@JabarPlaysGames]

In ears are so uncomfortable for me they make the inside my damn ear itchy

[@xyzhero8480]

Yea I cant use anything that shoves into my ear holes and creates a tight seal its gives me a headache.

[@Tommy-te2lg]

What is your other option for great gaming IEMs experiences?

[@TheManInaHat]

Yeah the gold stamdard for any gaming audio is still audio technica m50s. Gaming headsets suck.

[@Markia-is9es]

Totally agree that gaming IEMs smoke gaming headsets within the same price range. What’s your favorite gaming IEMs

[@TheManInaHat]

@@Markia-is9es gaming iems? Idk if those exist but id never buy gaming audio anything. Its crap.

[@TheManInaHat]

Use standard studio/audio equipment for gaming and its miles better. The only thing that makes it "gaming audio" is shittier quality componenets with rgb lighting at double the price.

[@JohnMontello]

Totally agree with you that gaming headsets are not good. They are too bulky and heavy for gaming, even do not have good sound quality for the money comparing to gaming IEMs.

[@shaolinmaster8583]

If your on pc high quality headphones because you can down load plug ins and you can use actual audio equipment that can properly drive them....like amps and dacs....there is a lot to unpack when it comes to understanding audio....if it says mixing headset don't purchase it

[@Markia-is9es]

Do you have your good iem choice for gaming

[@serg_ca7792]

actually I have mi first IEMs (kz zs10 pro x i think they were called) and i was expecting less fot the price (50€), they sound just amazing, deep bass, not distorsion in the sound of the voices like in anterior experiences with normal headphones. Now about gaming, they are just like the example he said in the video, they have a really good perception of the direction of the sound (idk how to explain it) but you cant say if something its sounding from above or under U, anyways i dont regret anything and cant complain for the price than for me its really cheap for what u get

[@serg_ca7792]

sorry if it cant be understood, english aint my native language

[@JohnMontello]

@@serg_ca7792 What are your recommendations for value gaming IEMs?

[@Markia-is9es]

@@serg_ca7792 Sound good to me your best choice for gaming IEMs

[@gunnbottemlr]

@@serg_ca7792 so the iem's ,you cant hear if its above you or under you right?

[@mrmandiiiss963]

I am looking to get these ones do you need a sound card?

[@chills_tiny_mom]

Used to have some real cheap KZ IEMs from AliExpress, they sounded great for like $5 (despite them breaking like a year later but tf do I expect from the price)

[@JohnMontello]

and it is better quality sound gaming IEMs than gaming headphones.

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

Which ones are your favorite gaming IEMs?

[@VesonoYT]

I wish I could use IEMs, but I have a nickel allergy and it tends to cause flare-ups

[@DrogoDGN]

There are some iems that have plastic bodies and brass nozzles

[@mindlessinfinite]

all professional studios use over ear headphones.. idk why but there is probably a reason. on a side note... I just replaced my senhiesser game zero's with V moda's m 100 and their boom mic. I've yet to test it but i'll let ya'll know how it is and if my friends say my voice sounds more clear or not

[@ToastedFlowers]

The video OP has zero clue what he’s talking about. Coming from a studio engineer this guy is a complete blithering idiot.

[@kklc5477]

on the more expensive stuff like professional grade, headphones are better value because flagship iems usually costs more. But in consumer side, 300$ and below iems usually have a lot more value

[@Markia-is9es]

@@ToastedFlowers can you give a comparison for both gaming IEMs and headsets side by side with quality and value included. Thank you so much.

[@marianack111]

You have Blon Bl03 that is 25 to 30 and has an amazing audio !

[@ppanosggian8633]

It's not the IEM fault on apex...sound just generally doesn't exist

[@Tommy-te2lg]

Any other great gaming IEMs that you like

[@rize6738]

For me i cant use iem, they fall out of my ear, or hurt my ears after 5 minutes.

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

I would use a better IEM

[@spygamer5668]

I just bought crin zero blue this week but the sound of left and right are inverted😢 Any idea to revert back to right place?

[@DrogoDGN]

@spygamer5668 check if the cable is connected to the right iem

[@DrogoDGN]

There should be Left and right indicator on the 2 pin connection

[@leechacc387]

I bought iems and hated them, tuned it even. gave up the big headphones a while ago, rig800hd. I much prefer to use old apple earphones for gaming and music.

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

What was your best gaming IEMs experience?

[@DanHoyesvv4bv]

There are some value gaming IEMs for that same quality and very cheap IEMs too.

[@JohnMontello]

What is your saving for gaming IEMs?

[@Eddneton94]

1:15 hard disaggre on the compfort par. why ears will start to hurt when i wear inears more than 1 hour

[@DrogoDGN]

Are all of them like that? You might've just gotten unlucky with some that just don't fit personally well

[@gakuyax]

You wear them for a long time, and you'll feel pain in the canal. You risk infection from your grimy gamer hands into the ear. You risk hearing loss. The sound doesn't dissipate anywhere. All that pressure is directly hitting your drums. You get that internal sound like you blood or when you humm (thunder rumbling) sound constantly. I suggest get a mx500 clone instead like Vido or yincrow x6.

[@Markia-is9es]

What would you recommend for gaming audio if it’s not gaming IEMs

[@JohnMontello]

Would you recommend any gaming IEMs? Somehow, the gaming headsets are heavy and bulky for me.

[@gakuyax]

Get those wired apple earphones.

[@gakuyax]

I wouldn't recommend iems at all, but if you really want them get Moondrop Aria.

[@Tommy-te2lg]

@@gakuyax How are those earphones compared to a good gaming IEMs?

[@shadeshotTV]

this video seems like an april fools video i found in the shorts section, you have an insane amount of time to explain things yet you just say "iems better" over and over audio is almost entirely personal preference and comparing, a blanket statement like iems having better imaging isnt great also, dont buy gaming headphones, dont be afraid of looking up "audiophile" headphones, you can find some really great headphones at pretty low prices compared to what you might think

[@DrogoDGN]

I specifically said gaming headphones on purpose. Such as Logitech and hyperx headphones. I said in my video that audiophile headphones have better soundstage.

[@Tommy-te2lg]

Which IEM or headset you prefer for gaming?

[@shadeshotTV]

​@@Tommy-te2lg there are 6 pairs of headphones in my house and the 2 i like the most are my audio technica ad1000x and my hifiman sundara the ad1000x has such crazy soundstage that its like audio x-ray, the imaging is also very good to pair, sometimes i have to take my headphones off to make sure a sound wasnt downstairs the sundara's detail retrieval is impressive, no matter how hectic a fight is i can pick out every sound, the soundstage and imaging arent CRAZY but still pretty good for iems, im currently using the moondrop starfield, imaging is decent but soundstage is pretty cramped, the tuning of them helps pick out things like footsteps and bushes for games like valorant and cs2 i might prefer my iems because gamesense more than makes up for the soundstage and imaging for more open and dynamic games like apex, tarkov, cod, battlefield, headphones all the way for me as for which pair i choose, its up to how i want my audio to sound side note, the sundara doesnt need to get as loud to hear everything, the detail you get at relatively low volume is very good as for gaming headsets, the hyperx cloud alphas are pretty comparable to the starfield is every way but worse overall quality, meaning they arent as clear, the bass is kind of muddy, and the upper mids arent as smooth, the soundstage/imaging/detail retrieval is comparable also the logitech pro x 2 seems pretty good, i have a friend that dipped into pro valorant and she says she couldnt be happier with that headset, she also plays tarkov

[@Markia-is9es]

@@shadeshotTV how do you rate the value of gaming IEMs vs. headset?

[@KatelynNguyen-m9b]

I love my gamimg iems .

[@ajiboyeolamide-k3r]

How can I get one ?

[@LosDoyerss]

You forgot to mention the outside noise sound deadening when using IEM's. Which is major, not having to listen to other sounds.

[@DrogoDGN]

You're right

[@NigelUnchle]

The only problem I'm facing with using IEMs is that my earwax, no cap, will literally crawl from inside the buds down to the wire's internals and into the headphone's circuitry. Still loved how it changed my experience in music listening compared to regular earbuds. And of course, I use the notorious EQ APO & HeSuVi

[@Tommy-te2lg]

Wow that is an amazing IEMs gaming experience!

[@DanHoyesvv4bv]

Totally agree that gaming IEMs provide amazing sound quality and value.

[@Khinouille]

I guess it depends, never tried IEM's, but i doubt the quality is better than my DT770 Pro 250Ohms

[@DrogoDGN]

I was mainly pointing fingers at the gaming consumer headphones like from razer and logitech. For studio headphones, it's not that IEMs are better sounding, but very close or good enough for gaming while still being much smaller and comfortable (at least for me). Also more affordable

[@JohnMontello]

Try gaming IEMs out bro, you will be amazed at how they can produce great audio quality for gaming specially.

[@VincentAmadeus]

The cable too short if I using iem, it really not comfortable man

[@Tommy-te2lg]

Can get the extension for the cable for your best IEM

[@Markia-is9es]

Try wireless IEMs

[@zone1035]

seems like you were paid to yap this much, it all comes down to personal preference. And most people prefer headphones since they provide more comfort

[@Markia-is9es]

Which gaming headphones are more comfortable than the great gaming IEMs?

[@karlvex]

I use a pair of HD800s for gaming but they're not suitable when playing VR so i had to pick some iems recently. I just bought my first pair of Hexa and i am very impressed for the price, even without a dac/amp they perform well. The soundstage is definitely cramped compared with what i'm used to but that's to be expected; impressive price-performance non-the-less and perhaps not the best choice of iem if used for vr gaming specifically. Moondrop Variations will be my next stop i think, unless anyone has any other recommendations solely for vr.

[@PusisD]

I am currently using dt 770 pro for gaming and I want to replace them and buy kiwi ears orchestra lite purely for gaming for good positioning, tell me if it is worth doing? Or is it a waste of money? And is it possible to get something better than kiwi ears orchestra lite?

[@DrogoDGN]

@@PusisD that's a good buy

[@PusisD]

@@DrogoDGN what do you think about Apevoix Grit?

[@HypoCT]

First time trying was awesome, and I wished I could invest more on this form factor. It's just not for me, comfort wise. Having things inside my ear is simply uncomfortable... and disgusting, even when I frequent bulb syringe and Q-tips combo. Quite jealous myself of people having these high quality audio, and most of the time cheaper than the headphone I invested in.

[@TinariKao]

Man, it feels good knowing that I have something going for me in this regard, and perhaps it is the years and years of in-ear headphone use that made me used to it, but they fit nice, sound great, usually cheaper, lighter, easier to pack, and I have hardly any gunky build-up and have excellent hearing for a 40 year old. On the other hand, I have other issues where a lot of over-ear or on-ear headphones are extremely uncomfortable and a bit painful.

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

@@TinariKaoso glad to hear you great IEMs experience. I feel the same when it comes to gaming audio

[@ReiBMK]

I got the raptgo hook x hbb for almost 2 years. And sometimes the right ear piece is losing audio I have to plug and unplug from my astro mixamp pro. I'm scared to buy another one and it might sound different :(

[@diegomora7608]

i'm just gonna say this, a iem that cost 150 is the equivalent of a 550 to 800 dollars over ear headphones in sound quality, and i'm not talking about gaming headphones, i'm talking about brands like hifiman, sennheiser, bayerdynamic etc... now let that sink in.

[@PantsaBear]

Ive never heard an IEM that gives me the same sound a $550+ Hifiman has at any price, yet alone one at $150. Planar sound on headphones is its own thing, and even planar IEMs have a long way to go to get that good But yeah a $150 IEM gets you more bang for your buck than $150 in the headphone world. What you said about Sennheiser and Beyerdynamic Ill agree with. But the Focals, Meze 109 Pro, and most modern Audezes aren't getting outmatched by IEMs from Truthears, 7Hz, and Kiwi Ears. Also IEMs arent nearly as durable as headphones (which may not matter to some, but its the truth) If someone only had $150 or less though and weren't going to upgrade their budget anytime soon, yeah IEMs are the way to go

[@Tommy-te2lg]

@@PantsaBear What would you recommend the best value IEMs?

[@tsuxmax]

while talking "issue": u can always wear normal headphones over IEMs

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

You think gaming IEMs are better choice than gaming headsets?

[@rachod6531]

My $15 iems have more sound quality than my AirPods Pro’s and my Logitech Pro X headset

[@sidharthrao9005]

purchase a good digital audio interface like the audient evo 4. They come with microphone passthrough so connect your XLR mic to it, then your IEMs and now you have passthrough to hear what you're saying without anything sounding muffled.

[@Tommy-te2lg]

What are your top gaming IEMs pick

[@Markia-is9es]

Are they value gaming IEMs for high audio

[@112358miau]

If you are spending +150€ at headphones just make a mold of your ear canal and use it with your in ear. Thats the best confort you can have. it doesnt hurt and usually volume is much less cause they isolate from noise. Also isolation plays a HUGE role in bass with headphones. My shure SE215 have stupid bass with instruments. They dont have it with music or gaming, maybe Id have to tweak EQ to get it. My thought is that its response isnt made for postproduced music or gaming

[@Tommy-te2lg]

What is your recommendation for best gaming IEMs

[@112358miau]

@@Tommy-te2lg No clue dude, Ive only had some crappy ones and my shure 215 (around 100€) The guy that posted the video has some cheap and more expensive recomendations. My only recomendation is to use the foam adaptors and not rubber. If it is dense foam even better. Mine gained a huge boost in bass with that isolation

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

@@112358miauthat’s great suggestions to boost your gaming IEMs bass bro. Thank you so much

[@nickmcnairy7610]

I have the Status Audio Between Pro triple driver earbuds (3 speakers in each ear) and you really can't do any better for the price.

[@maxkroeze3979]

what did u pay for those bad boys?

[@Markia-is9es]

@@maxkroeze3979 How much was your gaming IEMs? Gaming IEMs has a great price range under $100.

[@OLDDaddyG]

DONT use IEMs they are only meant for critical listening , use over ear headphone (ye studio headphones like 770 pro but you need mic .) I once used IEM (Moon drop Aria )for playing Valorant , no doubt you will get a perfect sound but the pressure they create specialty during a gun shot may temporarily or permanently deafen you , I was deaf for a day and recovered over sleep after just a gaming session of 1 hrs so please Do Not use IEM for Gaming . thank you !

[@DrogoDGN]

@OLDDaddyG bro I've been using iems for most of my life, I still have perfect hearing so idk. Might be different for everyone

[@Tommy-te2lg]

What exactly was your gaming EIMs problems

[@OLDDaddyG]

@@Tommy-te2lgI think he is right you need to try it, to believe weather you experience temporary deafness or not ,may be you don't have sensitive hearing like me !

[@Markia-is9es]

@@OLDDaddyG what would you recommend for gaming audio if it’s not IEMs

[@OLDDaddyG]

@@Markia-is9es Over ear headphones like DT 770 pro,

[@Nam_Nam2134]

the logitech g435 is also very light and comptorable even for big ears like i have

[@Tommy-te2lg]

Any other great gaming IEMs that you like

[@xenodrake4008]

Either open backs like dt990 pros, hd599 or hd600 or these are better than "gaming" headphones. I myself prefer open backs for the imaging

[@Tommy-te2lg]

What are your favorite gaming IEMs under $100

[@Markia-is9es]

Most gaming IEMs is better than gaming headphones with the same price range

[@DanHoyesvv4bv]

What is the best price range for these favorite gaming IEMs

[@Bobby_Uterus]

Just because it sticks in your ear, doesn’t make it an in ear monitor. Real IEM’s have a flat response so that they don’t color the sound of a musicians instrument or vocal. Most in ear “headphones” are going to have a big boost from around 60 to 100Hz to make up for low frequencies that tiny drivers are unable to reproduce. There is no way any kind of in ear headphone or monitor is going to outperform a good pair of over ear headphones. There is more frequency spectrum with over ears, bigger drivers and a better seal. You would be better off with over ear headphones and running some type of a pre-EQ filter to scoop out undesirable frequencies, roll off low end and boost higher frequencies where foot steps and things like that fall in the frequency spectrum.

[@DrogoDGN]

@Bobby_Uterus this video is mainly aimed at the people who buy mainstream gaming headphones like from razer. Also we're talking mostly at the budget end of headphones, which imo, iems will always win because it's so easy to make them

[@Bobby_Uterus]

I’m still gonna have to disagree with you. Cheap in ear headphones may sound better to you than over ear headphones because cheap IEM and even expensive IEM cut off a bunch of the low frequencies. It’s impossible for the little drivers to reproduce them. Those low end frequencies may be cluttering what you’re hearing in your game with over-ears but can easily be EQ out. The smaller in ear headphones cannot reproduce these frequencies at all. I think using an EQ would be more beneficial on a sealed pair of over-ears. I also don’t see how sticking something in your ears is more comfortable than an over ear. I guess it’s just preference.

[@DrogoDGN]

@Bobby_Uterus I mean, I feel like, let's say, for $50, you can get a lot from iems, but I feel like there is no great option for headphones. Of course, at $200 and up, then that may be different, but at the very low end where most gamers want, iems are just a better value proposition.

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

@@Bobby_Uteruswhat are your best choice for gaming IEMs

[@Bobby_Uterus]

@@epicardsdotcom1300 I’m not a gamer. I use Westone Audio AM Pro X30s for music performance. Look at the Shure SE112 or maybe the Shure SE215 if you want IEMs for whatever reason. I’d go with a company that actually makes other music production products. Not a company that no one has ever heard of.

[@RegenNation]

great video and right to the point! tysm

[@flamechicken415]

im going to buy the Truthear x Crinacle Zero Red and see how it compares to the Antlion Kimura Solo

[@xl3eastfamouzz772]

And have you Tested them ?

[@Markia-is9es]

@@xl3eastfamouzz772 what are your best IEMs 4 gaming

[@JohnMontello]

it is better quality sound gaming IEMs than gaming headphones

[@muhammaddio9925]

Tin Hifi T3+ to Truthear x Crinacle Zero is considered an upgrade?

[@DrogoDGN]

@@muhammaddio9925 yes

[@DanHoyesvv4bv]

Totally one of the greatest gaming IEMs.

[@Markia-is9es]

Absolutely and a great choice for gaming IEMs to save money too specially compared to gaming headsets.

[@muhammaddio9925]

@@Markia-is9es thanks! it's coming tomorrow. can't wait

[@JohnMontello]

@@muhammaddio9925 Did you get it? And what do you think of the gaming headset comparing to gaming IEMs. Thank you.

[@unpackinglife]

Very reliable and sturdy. I like the wire quality more than the usual earphones.

[@Markia-is9es]

Totally. Newer IEM is best not just good quality and affordable pricing

[@Tommy-te2lg]

What about affordability of IEMs?

[@sindriic3316]

When playing escape from tarkov with the truthear IEM's I got, I cannot tell a direction the footsteps are coming from which made me instantly stop using them. Is there a way I can make this better?

[@DrogoDGN]

@sindriic3316 I mean, the only reason I could think of is your amp/dac that you connect them to, but that shouldn't make too much of a difference.

[@ydab8944]

Did u buy the truthear zero or the zero red? If you bought the red people say it's worse for gaming. Less imaging and other fancy words. Of you bought something else then ya idk.

[@DanHoyesvv4bv]

@@ydab8944 Which great gaming IEMs you decided to buy

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

@@ydab8944 Why the red is worse for gaming IEMs.

[@JohnMontello]

@@ydab8944 What are your best favorite gaming IEMs

[@alexphsy6936]

noob question what the best way to connect the iems to the pc. my pc has a headphone jack but it is too far away, what is the solution?

[@DrogoDGN]

@alexphsy6936 there are cable extensioners or you can buy an amp which could be useful in the future to power headphones that are really powerful while acting as an extensioner.

[@MiguelHernandez-rj2uz]

​@@DrogoDGN do you recommend an Amp ?

[@DrogoDGN]

@@MiguelHernandez-rj2uz not really, just not really needed unless you're powering headphones, but just iems alone don't need them

[@edoardobadano5053]

But you use an external dac/amp, or you play in a motherboats the iem ?

[@DrogoDGN]

dac/amp

[@Kenny-kh7gm]

do IEMs have a mic included? or are they just for audio?

[@DrogoDGN]

@@Kenny-kh7gm just audio

[@Kenny-kh7gm]

@@DrogoDGN alright thanks

[@rubendiaz3452]

i bought these on amazon and it had white noise. just plugged into my pc without any audio playing you can hear white noise and i couldnt stand it. i got a replacement from amazon and it had the same issue. ive heard these iems are some of the best but getting two defective ones ruined it for me.

[@DrogoDGN]

White noise could be caused by your amp. Pc amps are not always the best. Also all iems react differently to different amps, it mightve been a bad iem, a bad iem, or a mix of both. Or also the iem requires a better amp.

[@rubendiaz3452]

@@DrogoDGN i see, are there any budget amps i can buy for my pc to plug them into? i dont know how it works, if its that simple

[@DrogoDGN]

@rubendiaz3452 Sorry, I'm not too well informed on amps, but I'm using the Drop sdac + amp. There are also the topping dx1 amp dac and moondrop amps.

[@Antonin1738]

I need one that doesnt have that silicone thing

[@DrogoDGN]

@@Antonin1738 the eartips? Or the hook?,

[@Antonin1738]

@@DrogoDGN the ear tips. do you have any recommendations for ear buds instead? :D

[@DrogoDGN]

@Antonin1738 sorry i don't have any experiences with earbuds, maybe the Apple earbuds that are like $20. They're pretty decent for the price

[@Antonin1738]

@@DrogoDGN no worries, thanks!

[@Tommy-te2lg]

@@Antonin1738 What are your best gaming IEMs or gaming headsets?

[@christopherdedeck]

How do you not talk about the fact that they don’t have a Mic? Would be cool if you offered up a solution

[@DrogoDGN]

Because headphones don't either. There are some iems like the Kimura that have mics

[@Kokopuffs1154]

For people still here also look at the zero red (made by same company little dif tuning)

[@Tommy-te2lg]

Hi, it would help so much if you can do a comparison list of great gaming IEMs

[@Markia-is9es]

Is this a better gaming IEMs and better value gaming IEMs

[@DanHoyesvv4bv]

What is the good price range for this best gaming IEMs

[@Kokopuffs1154]

​@@Markia-is9es the ones he recommended for 50 is great the newer ones are red but some people prefer dif things its up to you

[@Kokopuffs1154]

@@DanHoyesvv4bv any price range is fine, you can get something good for $20 like the Linsoul 7Hz x Crinacle Zero:2, or Moondrop CHU 2. but if you can around 100 or less is great, I would recommend the ones he did and the Moondrop ARIA 2

[@KevinGeneFeldman]

What I hate are the stupid cables that wrap around your ear and no matter how much you put them on you're always fumbling with, which is the left and right one and then how do you orient them.

[@DrogoDGN]

I never have this problem at all, are you using mmcx or 2 pin?

[@KevinGeneFeldman]

@@DrogoDGN I have a FiiO and they spin around and its like an annoying little puzzle everytime I try to put them on. I just wish the damn cables would hang straight down instead of this ear wrap around thing.

[@DrogoDGN]

@@KevinGeneFeldman A lot of iems now are 2 pin, which means the cable is locked in and does not move or spin around. Also if a cable was straight, it wouldn't fit/hold on as well onto the ear and would just fall down straight. Which some IEMs have good weight to them.

[@ARR3KKUSU]

Studio headphones are infinitely better than gaming ones had some cuz I used a interface for music and gamed I would for sure go back when I have the chance

[@Tommy-te2lg]

Any other great gaming IEMs that you like

[@AussieRandomVideos]

Fact is Headphones cause hair thinness. Look at poor Pestily. Lvndmark is smart and wears earbuds. My hair has definitely gone thinner from headphones and i have noticed when i have a long break it grows back. Obvioisly this doesnt happen to everyone so stfu

[@xuananle2466]

Oh10 has crappy imaging though, just shows how you dont need really good iems for gaming

[@DrogoDGN]

Yea I got them cause I saw them at insane price. I don't use them anymore. Good player ≠ good gear ✅️

[@Tommy-te2lg]

What are your best IEMs for gaming?

[@Elc22]

I am surprised to see the OH10 being used for gaming. Don't get me wrong, my OH10 are my babies, and are absolutely amazing for the kind of music I listen to, but they are not good for gaming. Their imaging is mediocre and their sound stage is moderately close. For competitive games, you want imaging and soundstage as the main strengths, which means either a neutral or bright sound signature most likely. You can also go for something with a slight V shape signature. The OH10 is a heavy V, close to U shape signature, amazing for electronic music and will give you a nice brain massage, but gives you fuzzy directional audio for pinpointing the location of things.

[@DrogoDGN]

At the time, the oh10 weren't my main gaming iems, I just used them for this video cause they looked nice on camera.

[@KatelynNguyen-m9b]

which gaming IEMs you use?

[@TheLotroNerd]

All of the recommended IEMs are garbage dont buy. Ive tried all of them. Moon drop aria is decent...

[@DjGo99]

Which ones would you recommend for under $100?

[@TheLotroNerd]

@@DjGo99 Depends what you are looking for. I have gotten 1 bad set of crinacle reds and one set of good crinacle blues.

[@epicardsdotcom1300]

Are both gaming IEMs selling for the same price?

[@DjGo99]

@@TheLotroNerd something with decent sub bass for music and gaming.

[@Legend_Dale]

I'm looking for quality, durable, wired and has good range for example on Apex my headset is fine but seems like I can't hear from as far away as other people can any suggestions?

[@SdRayM2]

Are there any wireless iems that are good for music and gaming ?

[@drsushantverma]

Iems are always wired.

[@DanHoyesvv4bv]

Gaming IEMs are very light weight and comfortable for gaming.

[@pyro7150]

for me those kind of earphones dont work as my ears cant hold them inside without slipping out so the only option is the headset kind

[@KatelynNguyen-m9b]

which gaming IEMs you use?

[@pyro7150]

@@KatelynNguyen-m9b tried wired with silicon and ones where the part you put inside the ear is plastic and tried wireless ones same situation with silicon and without silicon tried the ones you put around the ear and the normal ones really non of them really work for me in the long run

[@rustymacheteplayz4253]

Ear tips make my ear wax go crazy that's why I use headset because the earbuds get clogged😂

[@Markia-is9es]

There are some very comfortable gaming IEMs if you like to give them another try, I would bet gaming IEMs are much more comfortable and better quality than the headset.

[@ohhzymo5829]

Gaming Headset may hurt you cause ur Frame from ur glasses is gigantic my guy

[@DrogoDGN]

I wear contacts most of the time

[@ohhzymo5829]

@@DrogoDGN Hell nah... my eyesss man. But quick question! How come the IEM's are almost 1/3 cheaper than most gaming headset?

[@DrogoDGN]

@ohhzymo5829 the size, they don't have to use as much material, and the drivers can be much smaller and sound just as big because they're closer and in your ear. Also they don't need a pad to produce a seal.

[@ohhzymo5829]

@@DrogoDGN i see. I was actually thinking of getting a Beyerdynamic Headset cause 2 of my friends recently bought one and they say its amazing but im rly interested in iems. My problem is that those earsbuds sadly fall out

[@Tommy-te2lg]

@@ohhzymo5829 I would think that they are cheaper to make.

[@MTHEGAMER35]

dude money is not an issue for me i am more interested in comfort i dont mind spending 500 or a thousand if it means my ears dont hurt i wanna be able to hear my self talk while having excellent audio quality

[@yengeshivaji]

Same Brother❤, I Purchased HyperX Cloud 3 For IPhone Due To It Has Inbuilt Tyce C Plug But I am not able to hear footsteps of enemys even if they are extremely close and i can't even use HyperX NGENUiTY App though It Is Available in App Store But It's Only For HyperX Buds Wireless, I Can Use The App In Windows & It Works Well I Can Use DTS , Equalizer , Other Features Of HyperX Cloud 3. I Did Write A Review at App Store All I Can Do Is Wait & Enjoy My Headphones In PC.

[@AliciaMoore-m2j]

Hi I'm Alicia I would like to try your products do you do home delivery on half payment ?

[@Markia-is9es]

You need to ask the manufacturer of the gaming IEMs and/or check their IEMs website

[@Nameisnotimportant]

I would actually recommend something neutral sounding because yes those gaming focused IEMs might have a lot of bass but depending on what game you play high frequency sounds might also be very important for you. And you can always tune your neutral sounding IEMs to have that bass boost if you want to.

[@JohnMontello]

What are your recommendations for a value gaming IEMs?

[@Nameisnotimportant]

@@JohnMontello I honestly don’t know. As I said I am not really into gaming focused IEMs and I instead like something with neutral sound signature and with nice and clear sound.

[@Markia-is9es]

@@Nameisnotimportant I would recommend IEMs for gaming audio both quality and value

[@Tommy-te2lg]

What are your top choice for gaming IEMs?

[@Nameisnotimportant]

@@Tommy-te2lgI personally use Sennheiser IE 200 for both listening to music and gaming. They’re not gaming IEMs but they deliver excellent sound in my opinion. Some reviewers on the internet say that you need to put tape over the nozzle of each IEM because they leak a lot of bass but that is something I don’t have problems with so maybe (if that was an issue) they fixed it by the time I bought my pair….I don’t know. Also they say that cable is an absolute piece of garbage. And I must agree that the cable doesn’t feel premium at all especially for the price but cable is a cable and as long as it works I don’t really plan replacing it. That cable is also noisy meaning that you’ll hear it rubbing against anything. As far as the packaging goes you’ll find IEMs themselves, some user manual, a small pouch (for storing your IEMs) and 3 sizes of silicone ear tips (with medium size ones already installed) as well as 3 sizes of foam ear tips (All silicone as well as foam ear tips have special filters in them that prevent ear wax from getting into the nozzle). Again Chinese brands offer more stuff for this kind of price when it comes to the accessories you get in the packaging but I bought my IEMs because of nothing else but sound quality cause that’s what matters to me the most. Not to mention that they are super comfortable due to their small size. So yeah IE 200 are my IEMs of choice despite all negatives I mentioned here.