DON'T BUY the BOSS RC-10R... UNTIL you've watched THIS!! BOSS RC-10R Review | Product Review

[@petergray453]

5:00 You can start looping and turn rhythm later, even with intro.

[@JDDavid]

Yes, these can be independent or locked together as you choose.

[@andrewp8641]

Amazing commentary. Boss should hire you to help shape the features of the product. Your knowledge in practical usage of Loopers is amazing. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos to share your knowledge with others. I truly appreciate it.

[@BillFulbright]

As a single entertainer for several decades, I started with Boss/Roland CR-8000 before loopers were even available. Excellent review based on real world usage and applications. I would be interested in knowing what your choice for the most versatile looper would be given your experience using loopers and your need to be precise with your assignment of tracks etc.

[@tomascolon]

Great point on those crazy intros, but some of them are ok. If you start by tapping the rhythm side button it starts with the intro but if you start with the loop side it starts without the intro.

[@BenRowlandsMusic]

Yeah that’s true, some are ok. I found sometimes i had syncing issues with the drummer if I looped without it. And you then had to turn loop sync back on, to align the loop with the drums and it wasn’t as smooth as I wished.

[@Selruil]

@@BenRowlandsMusic I just got around to adding my own rhythms to it last night with the rhythm software. You can add the intro part as just four clicks on whatever midi drum you want. I did open hi-hats but you could do stick clicks or a triangle if you were so inclined.

[@silvermanewj4366]

@@Selruil ..so you are saying you can edit existing pre-programmed rhythms or not?

[@Selruil]

@@silvermanewj4366 edit pre-existing, no. Well, I haven't tried to do that. I have added my own rhythms. If there was a rhythm you liked that existed already, you could just add the same rhythm with the adjustments you wanted to make.

[@lonesomelenny7606]

I bought the RC-10 and use it for the drums only mounted on a table into another looper on the floor.I let the crazy intro go then start playing. I use it for practice only and it's a good tool.The pedal is overkill otherwise but quick and easy the way I use it.

[@bennyhill3505]

I do believe you CAN play drum sounds without playing or using the looper. I think you said it's not possible.

[@MrToots1e]

Via your computer how many drum patterns can you change to your own?

[@ElmanAuthement]

Thanks for your honest opinion and review. Causing me to research a little more before I decide. I have the RC-3 right now but the drum patterns are very limited. I needed something with more but I want something compact to fit on my board.

[@peterdolwen]

there is second manual Boss-RC-10R_parameter_eng01_W

[@Robfnord]

I just got an rc10r, now i just have to carry on doing work coding until 5 pm so i can play with the thing!! i dont think having this on in the background will do any harm though... it is my first looper and i am only really using it with guitar so I think it should do what i need

[@Robfnord]

The website says you can 'import your own rhythms' I initially thought hey cant you import backing tracks anyway, so you could have a sample of real drums , nullifies the rhythm element of the rc10r though, then i looked the site and it says about importing rhythms, but i'm guessing that the drum machine inside is very basic and actually just doesn't have velocity values for the notes anyway, which if true IS a bit shit in 2020 really isnt it!!

[@mahoganymarco9199]

@@Robfnord is actually very very good, i wouldn't mind the other comments. Great tool to play abd never get bored, most of the time i only use it with guitar which is perfect

[@joewilliams5396]

Hi thanks for doing this, I've lost count of the times I've bought equipment fooled by the hype, getting excited, learned everything about it, finding out I've spent a load of money to be disappointed. You want to replacefellow human musicians, because of the hassle you get with them and it's and not always possible to have other musicians. I won't be wasting my money.

[@HoneyboyDes]

Straight to the point. Liked the review this pedal is not right for me. I loop everything live and there's no time for fumbling

[@stevezirkler4619]

You can turn off the drum intro and you will need to. He is very correct to say some of the drum intros are ridiculous and give ZERO indication of what is to follow. It is a fail. What planet does the programmer live on? He is very correct in saying the manual is poorly written. The pedal is connectable to other pedals. You have to wonder that if it needs another pedal you might be better off with a bigger thing. The (manual) advice in the connection of another pedal tells you to look at some on line resource which is also pretty poorly written and really lacks attention to setting it up to be anything like useful. That is a fail. If you want to for example change the rhythm pattern or tempo you'll be on your knees pushing buttons and turning dials with your fingers (instead of standing up or sitting) because it provides limited options for foot switching. Can I get the additional foot switch to be set up to change a rhythm and a tempo, something I would often want to do in a live show ? I hope so but I won't hold my breath. Where is the answer to this question? Not in the manual. The FS-6 footswitch also comes with a manual and ridiculous lack of clarity. It has a polarity setting . There isn't a good explanation what it does. I won't write it off yet but as a tool for live work, it doesn't appear to be quite what I hoped for. Be careful what you wish for.

[@mikehewett4393]

Here's a thought: you could use the external foot switches to move up and down between loop patches. That way you can pair up the patches (pre-saved, of course) to vary the tempo/pattern and/or have 4 different sections to the loops instead of just two. Great for pieces with long outros such as Sultans Of Swing or Hotel California. As for the external foot switches, (they are labelled Control 1 and Control 2 in the downloadable Parameter List, they work straight out of the box on the un-latched (momentary) setting. I also got the FS7 which is very neat and sits comfortably beside the RC 10R on a crowded pedal board and is easier to use than I expected (except B is 1 and A is 2!).

[@stevezirkler4619]

​@@mikehewett4393 Yep I thought about that (thank you though) but having a tempo control as one of the footswitchable parameters would have been smart. I believe it is only available for stored patches. As you said, pre-prepared. So while you are jamming around you constantly have to bend down and physically change tempo which is annoying and isn't going to help spontaneity. The other thing this device does is when you have dialed in a tempo and you hit the play switch, it often reverts to the "preset" tempo of the patch. It is an annoying gliche. Once I start pre-preparing tracks I feel like I may as well have simply prepared karaoke background which gives me a great visual reference to song parts and even lyrics. I'll jam around with it and eventually get comfortable with its limitations but there are glaring oversights in this otherwise sturdy box.

[@stevezirkler4619]

​@@mikehewett4393 Yep I thought about that (thank you though) but having a tempo control as one of the footswitchable parameters would have been smart. I believe it is only available for stored patches. As you said, pre-prepared. So while you are jamming around you constantly have to bend down and physically change tempo which is annoying and isn't going to help spontaneity. The other thing this device does is when you have dialed in a tempo and you hit the play switch, it often reverts to the "preset" tempo of the patch. It is an annoying gliche. Once I start pre-preparing tracks I feel like I may as well have simply prepared karaoke background which gives me a great visual reference to song parts and even lyrics. I'll jam around with it and eventually get comfortable with its limitations but there are glaring oversights in this otherwise sturdy box.

[@AJS86]

If you get the manual online it's quite big

[@AudetMusic]

Great review. I agree with everything you said. I can’t figure out how to clear the loop for both drum loops at the same time, without having to go to the second second loop and erasing it separately. Is there a way to clear both at the same time?

Aaron Audet you must Press the loop switch for 2 seconds with the loops stoped.

[@AudetMusic]

HI, @ I've tried that and it only resets the loop I am currently on, not the second drum loop. I have to do them individually.

[@mikehewett4393]

@@AudetMusic This is not for during live performance but if you press both buttons at once you switch tracks and then you can clear the second one.

[@giovannilucas2011]

ciao mi puoi dire come collegare una unoita effetti G-Major alla loop station boss 10 R Grazie

[@valcc9403]

Hi Ben - thanks so much for your video! You say that there is a super complicated way to get the drums to play on their own without the loop (I assume you mean when in sync mode). Could you let me know how you managed to do it? I can't figure it out!! Thank you :)

[@RitchieRosson]

Brilliant! If I was to use a Beat Buddy with another simplish looper, what would you recommend Ben? Thank you! Brilliant to find your channel.

[@dnipllr4057]

Check out Digitech Trio + for a different approach

[@RitchieRosson]

@@dnipllr4057 Thank you Denis. I recently bought an Infinity looper.

[@williambc6542]

I wanted to buy rc10-r, but everyone scolded him very much, especially the drums. Is it really that bad, you have to buy a separate looper and drum machine???

[@BenRowlandsMusic]

It really depends what you are wanting from the pedal I guess. For very casual looping, improvising while you practise guitar etc. it would be ok. I have never tried anything like a beat buddy for the drums. But lots of people say that is much better than the drums on the rc10r. Maybe worth checking out some videos on it!

[@williambc6542]

@@BenRowlandsMusic The best loop set, this is Aeros Loop Studio + BeatBuddy, this is the best in the world !!! But it costs more than $ 900.

[@jurgenmoosburger617]

Hi Ben, thanks a lot for the demo! I‘m looking for quite a while for a Midi-capable looper with a very good drum machine inside or that can be a Midi-slave of the Beat Buddy. Do you have a recommendation for that?! It is not the Infinity by Pictronix as it stretches the loops if you do not stop recording very precisely on beat 1 of the subsequent bar. Can the RC5/RC500 be Midi-coupled to the BB in that sense? Or is the RC500 the ultimate stand alone Looper-Rhythm machine (maybe with additional footswitches)? Or do you have new insights how to Midi-control the RC10 so that have more flexibility, especially for independently use the rhythm section w/o the looper and add the looper occasionally?! I know, a lot of questions 😉 I‘m looking forward to your answers or from other well-experienced looper users. Thanks again & regards, Jürgen

[@BillFulbright]

yes... I would love to hear about this!! please let us know. If you have already done this and demonstrated which is the most flexible and applicable looping machine for single entertainers, please let me know.

[@snwbrdr65]

Great video! Just want a replacement for Music Memos iOS app. The RC-10R obviously isn't an easy solution. Thanks!

[@johnemerson2876]

When you save to the Boss RC 500 memory location .Can you lock that loop so it can't be accidentally recorded over? Thanks Great work

[@VlogsNiKuyang]

All you have to do is study the loop..find how to arrange it..its a good loop station actually…you can watch demos using the 10r loop station..its cool actually

[@wormcultist6637]

Could you not reccomend a better pedal then?

[@charlesflint9048]

I have one of these arriving tomorrow. Let’s hope I can get on with it.

[@maccagrabme]

Was it any good?

[@kirbonite]

Thanks... I've been waffling between this and the RC-3.. I now know the RC-3 will serve me better.. thanks mate

[@BenRowlandsMusic]

Glad I could help!! Hope you enjoy the RC-3!!

[@kirbonite]

@@BenRowlandsMusic I'm thinkining more RC 30 now

[@icebob8555]

Bad manual syndrome I’m very interested in midi I’d like to hook up a drum machine clock to the looper I don’t care about internal drum machine

[@nsc217]

Thanks... Are you saying the drums can’t go from heavy to light or they don’t have light drums at all?

[@JDDavid]

There are heavier and lighter sounding kits available, and the volume of the drums relative to the loops and volume of drums in the A vs. B parts of the song, can be set on a per-song basis. This volume level adjustment is not the same as "performance intensity", but it goes a long way towards determining how "heavy" the sound of the drums will be in a song.

[@jasoncheshire6153]

SO>>>>>>> What is the BEST looper pedal????? Is the RC 300 still the best? I want to get one but I hate to waste money. What about the Headrush??? Is that the best?

[@michaeltaylors2456]

Um try clicking on the rhythm button to start the drumming feature 👍🏻

[@alexhall6375]

Phew, thanks for that .. I nearly bought one for the same reasons and use as you did .. definitely don’t need full on drum velocities.

[@mihail.lyaskov]

You can actually select the drum kit type an there is lighter version, but not exactly as dialing in velocity percentage.

[@stevieross4415]

Thanks for the review nice one. Do you have any experience with Boss RC 30 loop station like sound quality ? I've read some reviews that say because its 16bit the sound aint so good. I know the drum sounds are very basic, but I'm mainly interested because you can plug a mic in via the 1/4 inch phantom power input . Thanks

[@BenRowlandsMusic]

Yes I have, it was my first ever loop pedal!! Great little looper, audio output quality isn't the best like mentioned. But a fun piece of kit! I may be doing a review of one soon! So be sure to subscribe if you haven't already to see that video!

[@stevieross4415]

@@BenRowlandsMusic Thanks for your reply Ben. Could you recommend a 2 track looper but not the Boss stuff. Ive been searching for ages trying to find a good quality one that works well without any issues but it seems according to reviews they all seem to have issues with bugs and functionality. I was looking at the Ditto x4 but read so many bad reviews about it. I know your a fan of the Aeros i was going to go for it then after consideration i realised i don't want to be continously having to look at a screen all time. Any help or advice would be great thanks mate.

[@ClearAdventure]

Wow, thanks! I almost bought this pedal a few minutes ago, no way now!

[@cowlevelcrypto2346]

You know you can slow the drums way down right?

[@mahoganymarco9199]

I think many people here just never had one, don't know how to use it but still saying " thank you, I'm saving a lot of money" Strange i can do so much with this, great quality too

[@dsam6990]

Very useful, exactly what I needed to know!! anyone have any recommendations for an easy to use decent sounding drum pattern looper

[@luthiergbc]

Do you know if you can erase a loop without it being audible? Example: you record a loop live but make a mistake and want to try again but dont want audience to hear it being played back for few seconds while it erases

[@bigrig4385]

It only takes a couple seconds to erase your most recent loop, so unless your mistake was very obvious and took place in the first 2 seconds of the loop, nobody would notice. However, if your mistake was not the most recent loop, I've found it's a total nightmare and it's easier to just start all over. If anybody has an answer for erasing a loop that wasn't your most recent loop, that'd be helpful. Sometimes I just unplug it from the wall and plug it back in, such a headache.

[@andybrown6981]

Absolutely right. Great right up. good to know the limitations.

[@divineprinciplesofrelaxtio4441]

Does this looper take a 9 volt adapter?

[@mikehewett4393]

Granted this isn't the easiest pedal to get to know but this reviewer has made no attempt to try and find out what it can do. In common with every other manufacturer these days Boss are trying to save paper. The manual directs you to an online document referred to as the "Parameter List" and it is very long but it is the only way you will understand what you can do with it. Just about every complaint in this review can be addressed with a parameter change. So, if you want to just unbox it and play then it's not for you but there are some revolutionary good ideas in there. It's fun finding out.

[@JDDavid]

Hear hear, this is the way into the "brain" of the pedal, or into the brains of the people who programmed it anyway. Many aspects can be set on a per-song basis with a few presses and twists of the encoder knob. I also must say having an external footswitch, or better yet a dual, makes ANY of the smaller form-factor Boss looper pedals from the RC-2 onward into much more versatile performance and composition tools.

[@acliffy7939]

Agreed I didn't find this review very helpful and from a mild amount of research knew a lot of these complaints could be overcome

[@eddie1brazil]

Man when I found out about this looper I was like hey such a grea write up .....but for crying out loud, the drums are exactly what you said sounds like popeye’s holding a stick with both hands and bashing the hell out of it. I can’t find for the life of me a decent demo using the other sounds like cajon or a more softer drum if it exists on this machine. Thank you for such on point review

[@JDDavid]

I think the "Acoustic" drum beats might meet your demo needs, depending on which "kit" you select. Each of your 99 songs has a selection for an independed beat and kit.

[@stevedonnelly1012]

Hi Ben. Thank you. You just saved me a lot of money. Four and a half minutes in.... "can't just play the rhythm on its own without the looper". So, I'm playing a live gig and want to break out of a song to inter act with the audience, play another riff, whatever, seems this pedal won't allow it. Pity as this just becomes an overpriced bedroom practice toy. Is this correct?

[@Boyerj87]

I’m frustrated in the process of learning how to use and setup the Boss RC-10R rather than playing and enjoying.

[@JDDavid]

I highly recommend getting the Boss dual footswitch accessory. The two switches can be mapped to two parameters from a long, long list. I have one set to always drive tap-tempo input, and the second footswitch is set to stop/erase ONLY the Part 2 (B section) recorded loop phrase, so I can obliterate the just the Part 2 summed loop recordings without affecting the Part 1 loop. I seem to start a song with a much clearer concept for Part 1 then Part 2 LOL.

[@stolky19]

​@@JDDavidHi! ..which particular Boss dual footswitch are you talking about? Thanks..

[@stvhop]

Does anybody like this padal? What I wanted was a BeatBuddy that would loop, (one padal).

[@arn999]

Yeah bud, the audience for this will certainly be someone brand new to looping, because it makes a whole lot of sense for newbies to buy a $300 looper, certainly not a Ditto or something.

[@joeroganjosh9333]

Same price as a theoretically good Squire pretendocaster. Pricey for a newbie.

[@Hawkcrom]

Did I hear correctly that the drums only work while in record mode?

[@eltorpedo7774]

Thats' what I heard. That is incredibly stupid and REALLY hurts the intended usability

[@mikehewett4393]

Not correct!! You can just use it as a drum machine.

[@eltorpedo7774]

@@mikehewett4393 i received mine in the mail. You can start a drum loop and get it to play as long as you want and also dial tempo in real time. this is a myth. its awesome. i play until i find a tempo and swing and then just play.

[@avesbjrk2021]

@@eltorpedo7774 And this is exactly why i changed from the trio + to the rc10.

[@aznorarri2480]

Which one is good in all RC looping models?

[@DancingBearshy]

What’s the process for a singer songwriter starting a song w just acoustic guitar bringing the drums in down the road a bit?

[@JāmiSun]

Thank you! 😊 for saving me another hassle. Subbed

[@BenRowlandsMusic]

No problem! Thanks for joining the channel!!

[@JaxxCrash]

I am stuck between this pedal and the RC-3... Would love peoples opinions...

[@JonSmith-fc2mm]

Your comment on velocity is interesting - is there a drum machine that can do that?

[@ge45gecalled39]

what looper for a Epiphone Limited Edition Peter Frampton Les Paul Custom PRO Electric and a Taylor 114cedemotic looping and control of the sound effects

[@ge45gecalled39]

not demontic, acoustic

[@kennysylvia773]

i was thinking of getting this but after ur great info i think i am shying away what loop station do yo recommend

[@tobaccorich]

Nice. What’s the best looper if you want to switch between 2 or 3 sections of a song ?

[@christianlwensprung2722]

Awesome vid. Thanx merry xmas

[@frogger-5meo152]

Wow this guy is complaining about a whole page in the manual about how to attach the rubber foot pieces but this guy has used 1/3 of his video to talk about the instruction manual. Wow I got the internet and there's about 30 videos that came up for instructions. I don't know bro you kind of got to not be annoying to sit and complain about annoying things or whatever and be relevant but whatever dude nice hair man

[@intothedragon]

what is your opinion on the DigiTech Trio +?

[@fluxtormax3474]

Can boss be assign as control ext pedal of boss rc 10r?

[@thisisnotdom]

Great video! Do you have any other recommendations for sub ~£250 loop pedals then? I have a cheap looper (similar to the ditto one) and want something that can do a bit more (mostly for practicing/song writing). Ideally the ability to record two loops and switch between them would be good, and something which isn't massive!

[@BenRowlandsMusic]

Hey thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed the video! Have you considered the BOSS RC-30? That’s a small 2 track loop pedal. That I believe is under £250 these days! That’s what I first started out with.

[@thisisnotdom]

@@BenRowlandsMusic Ah, thanks a lot for the suggestion! Do you have any thoughts on this vs the ditto x4?

[@mikadams]

Do you have a tutorial on how to put my own loops on this thing?

[@undklang]

thank u so much for this video!

[@BenRowlandsMusic]

No problem! Thanks for watching!

[@sixstringsamurai77]

- Manual not thick enough -> It's all online - Intros too complex -> you can turn intros off, or you could just figure out the tempo from the fill - Can't play drum track on its own -> yes you 100% can - Can't adjust velocity of drums -> choose a different groove, out of literally 100s

[@PinchTune]

So I take it you like the looper? I'm trying to find reassurance, because I just ordered one. O.O

[@mikehewett4393]

@@PinchTune I agree 100% with Mr Samurai! :)

[@PinchTune]

I bought one and have been playing it for a few weeks now. Most of the complaints in this video are based on not knowing how it works. There are setting changes for just about everything brought up in the video. Plus, while some of the intro are a little complex, anyone that can play song should easily be able to figure out the tempo from the intro. And if not, you have to practice. Finally, the unit isn't perfect. There are a few idiosyncrasies that could have been better implemented. That all said, it's great looper and an amazing practice tool.

[@deandoeslife]

I thought that about the drum intro - if you can’t work out the tempo from that then you need to work on your timing.

[@Mickee2605]

You are SO right... The manual realy sucks.... Enjoy your teaching my how to use it... Keep up the good work

[@TheMusicmak3r]

Thank you for this.

[@BenRowlandsMusic]

My pleasure! Thanks for watching!

[@robertfield3727]

Good things to know, thanks for the info Ben, I'll wait to buy,

[@BenRowlandsMusic]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@steviev2504]

A lot of complaining about the manuel and fluffing his hair

[@eekamoose]

I always download and check out the user manual before I buy a complex product. If the manual is no good I don't buy the product.

[@RitchieRosson]

Good idea!

[@manuelgomezdemembrillerape300]

I'm subscriber 1111!!!!

[@BenRowlandsMusic]

Awesome!! Thanks!

[@fideldely5988]

ok. i get your points... but haven't seen you using it... thnx anyway

[@popularjazzstylesforsaxflu198]

Thanks. Covered the essentials.

[@mattgilbert7347]

First ever looper? For someone new to looping? I don't think so.

[@RitchieRosson]

Hi Matt. Any tip for a first looper pedal?

[@planzed463]

Why oh why didn’t BOSS release a RC1000 at this year’s NAMM.. it’s what we want!!😫😂

[@BenRowlandsMusic]

I must agree with you!! I can’t wait any longer for the main looper to be released!! Maybe at Summer NAMM fingers crossed!? 🤞🏻

[@planzed463]

Ben Rowlands Music 🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽

[@MajesticFuzz]

Plan Zed what is the rc1000? I’ve been searching for a looper and returned the rc10r after a few weeks.

[@planzed463]

Phillip Smith it doesn’t exist.. it’s just a dream... they’ve done the GT1000, the SY-1000... so fingers crossed we’re gonna get a RC1000 in a similar format 😉👍🏽

[@redcomn]

But broh i ady had Tu1000 Gt1000 Sy1000 I just can't even

[@jpl9148]

Please make a Video about Ableton! Some guys are not familiar with computers at all

[@BenRowlandsMusic]

Yeah sure thing!! What would you like to see?

[@jpl9148]

@@BenRowlandsMusic Well I suppose an Ableton 101 or Ableton for dummies and another One with Midi/external equipment

[@BenRowlandsMusic]

Ok! Cool! I shall see what I can do for you! All the best, Ben

[@jessedax7333]

Maybe also how to best connect a guitar. Because Ableton can become your RC-10 + !!

[@I.O.M.]

Does the pedal actually work with Midi?

[@BenRowlandsMusic]

The options are in the menu, to set it up. Just like on the RC-505. I’ve got a video coming out doing it, but the RC-10R isn’t 100% working right...

[@mingxinli3828]

Dude, Awesome hair.

[@DanielHidalgo]

Thanks for the video, sorry my bad English. I suscribed ^-^ . Please tech me to use midi options in the videos that you mentioned ^-^ Thanks so much. God Bless you c:

[@anthonypinto9244]

You goofy my dude, love your videos

[@ReverendHellbilly]

Thanks buddy the lack of dynamics is a bit of a deal breaker. Cheers

[@GGGtube]

Mark Knopler once summed up this pedal regarding velocity on the song money for nothing; " he's banging on the bongos like a chimpanzee".

[@richardchristensen1768]

The stick on feet sound like they must be far superior compared to it's predecessors? How's the battery life on this? Oh wait!!!!

[@DirtyMike702]

What happens if I buy it without watching this?

[@jonmy7]

3:43 (Complex intro patterns) "..seriously, what I am meant to do with that..." So true on this and many other products and sample libraries alike. Over the top! Fine, you don't have to use them but why not provide some simple and far more usable intro patterns too. [Sub'd]

[@BenRowlandsMusic]

Thanks for the comment and subscribing! Much appreciated!

[@MichaelBLive]

Song writing minded jams is what is best at. Every complaint you have you followed with "yeah you can fix it". Not sure what you're getting on about.

[@Dobrya4ok1]

True, true, true, and 10000% true. Thank you! The idea was really good creating a compact looper with high-quality sound, but the software /omg just look at their web page software that is a total mess so unfriendly and for creating a life session you need to know a lot of tricks, like for example, if you are trying to save tempo you need to record the first loop without playing, only after that you can start. cause if for god sake your song is 120 and you have made a mistake in playing and stopped the looper, the tempo would be 150 or 160 any random amount. well, so sad, really expansive and so useless.

[@Kyungah_Kim]

If you are looking for a simple looper, try the Digitech Trio band+. Your drummer will have two variations in intensity (and your bass player even three). Plus the option to shut them up, if nothing they play can charm you. And although you have only 1 track; you can organize five song parts in any order you want. A very nice, easy to operate practicing tool(and cheaper than the Boss RC 10...). Though I would program the songs in advance if you are playing for a wedding, because not all genre and style combi’s give the result you expect, when teaching your band...

[@startrekmike]

The Digitech Trio Band+ and the Boss RC-10R kinda make for a interesting comparison because they both tackle a similar concept in very, very different ways. When I was first looking at getting a pedal that could handle looping and rhythm in one unit, I tried the Digitech Trio Band+ and to be honest, I liked the idea but I found it very clumsy to use. It has a lot of functionality but some of that functionality slowed down the process a bit too much to be a sort of spur of the moment practice/composition/jamming tool. It is the kind of pedal that really needs you to sit down and hold its hand carefully through all the parts required and then you can step back from the controls and have fun playing. This isn't bad per se but it does kinda defeat the purpose of having it in a pedal form-factor. The other issue that kinda stood out when I tried one for a while was that it really, really needed the external footswitch to make the part system really work well. Not having a dedicated footswitch on the pedal to manage the parts made it really difficult to just enjoy the experience as I had to constantly bend down and push a button. It seems silly to complain about that but when you are playing guitar and really getting into it, having to stop and press a button on the pedal is kinda a buzzkill. In a lot of ways, the Trio pedal goes for complexity at the expense of control. It tries to pack a lot of stuff in a very small form factor and not always in a way that makes it a smooth creative/guitar playing process. Even when you use the external footswitch option, you still feel like Digitech should have thought things through a bit more and really focused on the experience of the guitarist who wants to play without having to stop and fuss with something too much. The RC-10R takes a different approach. It trades in some of the Trio's complexity but in the process, it becomes a lot faster and a lot more convenient to use. You don't get the bass parts in the rhythm portion but that also means you don't need to "teach" it the chords. You need only dial the drum sound you want and you are free to go from there. Likewise. You don't get five parts but since it only has two parts, you can easily switch between parts without having to stop playing. The other big thing is that it's pretty simple displays give you a very clear idea of where you are in not only the loops you have created but also where you are in a given rhythm part. It may not have the sheer level of functions built in but if you are looking for something that you can just hit some footswitches occasionally and focus instead on playing, that lack of functionality isn't really a issue and may even be a benefit. If there is one thing that both pedals need, it is more built-in footswitches. They both really do need external footswitches to really start working well but even with the extra footswitch pedal, the Trio+ is still too slow and clumsy to really use as a convenient jamming/composition tool. In comparison, when you plug the extra footswitch into the RC-10, it actually lets you choose the functions you want to map so you can quite effectively remove any of the issues that only having two built-in footswitches created on the pedal.

[@intothedragon]

@@startrekmike Isn't the bass line what makes the Trio+ much more interesting than the RC-10?

[@joeroganjosh9333]

If a young tech savvy player tells me it’s complicated....I’ve just saved a few bucks. Quite a few.

[@Jstall7543]

The manual is a download!

[@KRAZEEIZATION]

Where’s the rest of Van Halen? 😄

[@kylew706]

dude, i want your glasses

[@joeroganjosh9333]

Was so close to getting one of these. Wow, it was a close call.

[@TheLukejitsu]

Did you go for anything in the end? Still trying to make my mind up.

[@AC-awesome]

What accent is that dude!!?? You sound like Westwood.

[@PrOdUcOeSMaLuQuEiRa]

I am daltonic!

[@popebaron]

What a poor review. I appreciate him pointing out the faults, but what about hearing the pedal.

[@scottbecker3485]

Big thanks to you! You just saved my (not-so-royal) arse on buying a slab of unusable junk - at least, for my purposes.

[@alienzordfalcon5162]

I love mine. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[@mahoganymarco9199]

Its a joke of a comment for someone never tried but just based on a video. I keep enjoying this lovely loop pedal

[@scottbecker3485]

@@mahoganymarco9199 Fair enough. Mileage varies, as always. My opinion is based on specific downsides pointed out in the video - aspects of special importance to me. Glad your user experience is enjoyable. I ultimately opted for the RC 500, plus a Drumport LaserStomp 2-in-1.

[@mahoganymarco9199]

@@scottbecker3485 can't beat that, i think as i simply use it rarely in live, is mainly for ideas coming out, or at times ambient stuff or if i need keyboards part. On stage rarely i need. Mainly is the audio quality that i was going after comparing the rest. Plus i got it super cheap... Couldn't say no. Have a good music!

[@scottbecker3485]

@@mahoganymarco9199 Totally sounds like a great tool for your application. Isn‘t it great how easy it us for us to find and use cool technology to inspire us musically? We are living in the best of times… :-) Thanks - and happy music-making for you, too! :-)

[@freddyoner]

Friend, I find that you a little bit over the top about the manual. I get your old school but cmon man, all manuals and instructions are online and just making more paper waste doesn’t help anybody anyway. Definitely not worth talking about it for so long.

[@hellvetic]

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[@stewartdegner260]

Agree. it's terrible.

[@flavioserci6046]

I've purchased one. I like the looper. I don't like the drummer. It is so.. midi. Sounds are good, but it is too much perfect and no realistic. A real drummer cannot be so perfect.

[@A3Kr0n]

I already bought it so I guess I can skip this video.

[@frogger-5meo152]

Also you might need some hair barrettes dude to keep that stuff out of your face... maybe not you seem to like playing with it.

[@frogger-5meo152]

You seem like a very nice young English lad😁

[@wildoscar416]

what a gawd awful review

[@ScottLSimon]

Is it even a real review..? I can't be sure this isn't a put up job. It seems slightly unrealistic. Ok, if it is a real review but I see that some of the info has been flagged as wrong in the comments.... Get with it.

[@wildoscar416]

@@ScottLSimon it is a real review and as I said it's fucking terrible on every level. If you can't tell the difference it's surely you you that needs to "get with it" ....muppet

[@jr4233]

Talk too much