Don't EVER ride the White Line, unless your dad tows you in

We got rained out during the Sedona trip, but had a few hours of dry trail and great weather on Sunday evening. Lars Romig and his son Ronin guided us on a ride through some of Sedona's local trails, where we learned about "risk management".
Lars Romig has ridden "The White Line" countless times by now. It's not REALLY a trail, and it wasn't built or designed to ride on. This rock formation has existed in some capacity for millions of years. Nobody recommends you ride the White Line, and that includes me.
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[@SethsBikeHacks]

This was a pretty cool experience to be part of. Before you judge, consider some of the extremely dangerous things you do day to day that you're totally used to and think nothing of. Yes, the White Line is dangerous. Watch the clip I included of the bike tumbling down if you think it's all some kind of illusion. But there's a certain brand of person who craves these kinds of experiences, and we can only hope they partake in them as carefully and diligently as possible. Some of us may never understand their motivation, just like I'll never understand the knee-jerk hate. In any case, with the help of his dad, Ronin is building his own Instagram account with more traditional desert riding. Let's get him off to a good start! instagram.com/_mini_mongo/

[@Gehajjs62727]

Screw safety ima send it

[@ThunderWarrior77]

Putting your life on the line for the sake of FUN is as stupid as it gets and is mimicked no where else in nature. If you're gonna risk your life it should be for something of real value. 🤙

[@Gehajjs62727]

@@ThunderWarrior77 puss

[@ThunderWarrior77]

@@alexroge6495 purpose being???🤔

[@ThunderWarrior77]

@@Gehajjs62727 haha. Risk for fun is stupid. I guess you know where you fall. I give my life everyday but for a real purpose.

[@connorbrickey4994]

“If you mess up that roll, it’s just like, a huge bummer” 😂 Loved the vid Seth!

[@johnbiondolillo5188]

Understatement of the year...and it's even bigger in person

[@tarstarkusz]

It's stupid because it is unnecessarily dangerous. Otherwise, it's nothing. If there wasn't cliffs to fall off of and die on, nobody would care. Bike stuff, if it is dangerous, the danger should be inherent in what you're doing. Like flipping a bike is dangerous, but the danger is incidental. You can make anything dangerous by forces outside what you are doing. Like you could put a bed in a place that if you fall off, you will die. That doesn't make sleeping dangerous.

[@MrWetzelPretzel]

Understatement of the year

[@FlyFishtheMitt]

Was just out there and decided it wasn't for me. It's even more impressive and daunting in person than video. 😎

[@SethsBikeHacks]

Yeah, there are plenty of great riders who could absolutely do it but don't see the upside. Had I never ridden it before, and in light of dumb mistakes I've made recently, I don't think I'd ride it for the first time again, if that makes sense.

[@mayamoomilk6610]

@@SethsBikeHacks Totally get what you mean, the White Line would win the award for the go pro effect.

[@joemammoth1]

It looked bad enough in the video lol

[@bengonzales1182]

It looks steep in the video to me, so I can only imagine how steep it actually is in real life.

[@mattgraves3709]

Lived in AZ for over 20 years. Normally I don't miss it but occasionally mountain biking makes me consider a visit.

[@samuelperez8252]

Just got my new huffy mountain bike, thanks for the trail suggestion I'll have to ride it soon. (Edit) btw guys this was a joke.

[@andymtb5714]

I'll be at your funeral

[@callumdickie7758]

@@andymtb5714 me too

[@brian_jake]

RIP in advance

[@The_Real_JN]

Yeah you don't want to ride that, especially on this trail

[@Jamesfrancosdog]

I think this is going over some peoples head 😂

[@youtubeviewer9523]

Seeing the bike fall down the side of the mountain at 0:30 made me cry inside! On a side note, luckily the rider didn't suffer the same fate

[@remymetailler]

12 years old and already all the skills!

[@SethsBikeHacks]

Great to see you out there, Rémy!

[@remymetailler]

@@SethsBikeHacks Same! Next time with a bit more time.

[@wyldboyz5063]

RÉMY! Your my favorite

[@natehills9388]

It's been amazing watching Ronin progress over the last few years. The future is bright.

[@navnav5338]

I like that Seth's like "nahh I'm good" and I'm glad it's the best choice

[@willlange9978]

This is impressive and fits somewhere between free solo climbing and C4/5 kayaking. 🤔. My frontal lobe is finally fully developed at 60 and this doesn’t need to be done. Well… maybe…

[@coreygolphenee9633]

To compare this to free solo climbing is a bit much

[@ianowens21]

Ronin is a student of mine right now. Such a cool kid and a stud on the bike! Good for him!

[@andrewlee109]

Kudos to the kid he’s awsome and gonna be a great rider when he’s older.

[@RealMTBAddict]

Not always the case.

[@aaronbrown3613]

Seems like he already is…

[@ghosthayz]

Its nice to come back home and watch these videos even after my bike just got stolen this makes it better so keep up the good work Seth! You’re doing a great job

[@thanasimamais320]

Nothing better than coming home from school and seeing a new berm peak video. Keep up the great content!

[@waltysalamander]

Awesome to see you doing trips again!!! My favorite type of video you do!

[@heathr2072]

My stomach was churning watching them. Loved watching it and the risk management approach. Thanks for filming it

[@jro341]

Just moved from Michigan to this area. Awesome trails everywhere here. Thanks for the videos!

[@OayxYT]

Lets go! I’ve been missing the trail videos, thank you for uploading!

[@JGooden762]

I've got cold sweats just watching the vid. Super respect for the skill needed to tackle something like that!

[@Swag3OOO]

I just hit a small 4x4 road gap that has been sketching me out for weeks. I did look at it and walk away several times, but I followed a frend in and sent it, gosh it was good. Nice vid as always Seth Don't push your self to hard guys 😆

[@instigatedeye5941]

I really enjoyed this one, has a documentary feel to it, thanks a lot for this one

[@ballinamonaboy9233]

These videos make my day ❤️

[@Andypanda34]

Love the videos seth!

[@JaredRMorgan]

I was just watching the OG white line video the other day, so this sequel is fitting! 💪

[@maddaftcunts]

Good to see you back on the bike

[@owenhesdon9276]

I really miss this style of video, it’s a good change from all the trail building

[@vlahrangkhawl6956]

After years, I can watch your videos again. I used to copy lot of your styles. And learned lots of things from you. It's such a pleasure to see you. I've been watching your KZbin channel since your channel name is "Seth Bike Hacks". I'm a huge fan of you❤💎

[@sk8xaq]

Super Sweet Video! It's cool to hear you made it out to Az. I didn't know there was a festival in Sedona, I'll have to check it out next time.

[@2WheelKam]

Great video. Sedona looks fun

[@MsHigheagle]

Stoked for getting all my boys on the trails

[@kalanstraley8000]

Been watching you since you installed the dropper post on your treck in Florida, great videos.

[@arlobailey2399]

I watched the other white line video 3 or 4 years ago and that was the first video I ever watched of yours

[@Chogie14]

I have played a lot of rugby for 30+ years. Most wouldn't dare play it but I have been brought up to know and understand the risk. Same goes for sailing and water sports in our family. We would push the boundaries of what is considered acceptable by those that don't know. I'm relatively new into mountain biking and wouldn't dream of taking on this challenge but respect and appreciate anyone who is willing to take it on.

[@gershantv4563]

Hi Berm Peak I love watching your KZbin channel. From the Philippines.👍

[@C_Haberstoked]

Absolute control and confidence

[@jamez2u]

I just ran into an old timer who did this and said it was no big deal. The way he talked about it made it sound easy and he said he would do it again no problem. BTW this old timer was talking about riding mountain bikes since the 80's and just retired from working at a bike shop. But after watching this video there is no way I would leave the safety of chicken point. Maybe that old timer figured he has already done all he wanted to do in life and if he slipped off that line well, he had already accomplished all he wanted to do in his life. I still got a lot of stuff I want to accomplish in my life. And for me managing risk means staying off that white line.

[@AndrewGarneau]

Dude I already thought that looked terrifying before that bike falling clip.. where the cliff just kept going.. and going.. and going

[@Dbwheeliecrew]

I haven't watched this since 2020 and it's still bussin

[@Bwopro]

Hey just wanted to say that I love the videos and hope that one day I can ride amazing trails

[@lyndonhyde5151]

Seth, your videos are awesome, really enjoy your content, would love to see you do an extremely in depth video aimed at beginners who are wanting to service their own bike. Fingers crossed…. Please do more flip bike vids too !!!!

[@junior1896]

He already has a TOOOOOON of content made towards servicing a bike, and there are also lots of other channels who live to teach the stuff.

[@forest_biker684]

Great video! I ridden some sketchy lines and broken a rib last year, so my perspective has changed a little. If there is only a 1% chance that you fail and you ride that line as often as they do, they are playing the odds game with high consequences. It's surprising to hear a father say that he trusts his son's judgement....oh yeah, the son's 12years old? I just have a hard time wrapping my head around that... Still great video and riding!

[@larsromig7243]

I’ve ridden the line well over one hundred times and I have also ridden with my son for 1000s of miles. I know from the armchair this sounds and looks reckless but not what it appears.

[@forest_biker684]

@@larsromig7243 Now I didn't insult you, while your in your arm chair. I just stated that it's surprising to hear that you trust you 12 year old's judgement. More power to you!

[@pure69hatred]

“..while filming them from chicken point”. Aww mannnn! That’s going on a tshirt. Hahah! 🤣

[@AliasHSW]

💯 on the risk assessment POV!

[@littlechubbyducky4324]

Omg Seth posted a video The Return Of The King!

[@thememething5549]

Who was that guy in the short vid, also my friend went to Sedona and said he meet you and i was stuck at home with the vid the day before, we planed to go together wish i could have been there, thank you for making my day and encouraging me with your videos to make me do better, much love keep the awesomeness going.🤟🏻

[@ToNewHeights]

It would be cool if you did a Berm Peak express video explaining your process coming up with, executing, and editing videos. I and others I’m sure would be super interested in that!

[@TopToBottomMTB]

😂🤣“That’s just a huge bummer!” Nice work Seth!! Now that the border’s open, can’t to travel and go shoot videos with my American cousins!

[@liamjanes]

You make the best mtb videos in my say

[@theomakris7144]

Yo there is no way this kid 12 he looks older than me like 16 😂 Btw love the Vids Seth 🙌

[@JoPro06]

Yeah, his voice is way too ‘manly’ and deep, and his body and face is too grown and old. Could just be the clothes and equipment playing a trick in front of the camera, but I would sure guess his age between 17 and 21.

[@balls4890]

Yea, I’m 16 and he looks older than me

[@derekjarman1638]

I got sweaty palms just watching this 😁

[@Buffaloes91]

As a dad to 2 pretty adventurous boys, I love it! But the risk that I am concerned about managing is whether or not their mother would murder me if she found out about it.

[@farfrompkin]

Ooooweeeiiiiieee that's one spooky slab !

[@Dakota_B_]

Skilled young dude.

[@kareem2478]

Ey back at it again

[@michaelafton9916]

Takes a lot of skill and confidence

[@jaymason480]

I'm the 5000th's like. Always been wanting to see it switch over when it is in the bigger numbers.

[@XcTommy]

Kid using PitViper's... I LOVE IT

[@zaviergaudet2408]

Love your vids

[@dannyjohnston7598]

Scary but cool, but I still wouldn't do it! Also, @seth- listened to your Pinkbike podcast interview- it was awesome! Thanks for that!

[@matthewmelson2975]

"You mess up that roll and it's just a big bummer."😂😂😂

[@jolyonthorpe2456]

Love your Vids

[@SamSlugg456]

What a cool dad and kid

[@dastoast5273]

First time i see you ride on the new bike

[@scottubz]

I miss these videos

[@hugemanalert7069]

Love your videos seth youve gotten me into mtb i recently started on a retrospec hard tale thanks

[@m__r1100]

Great attitude to risk and challenge...

[@everettmartin8402]

I’ve been to Sedona the scenery is absolutely amazing

[@amani3622]

Hi Seth love your vids

[@itay372]

Crazy Man 🤘👌🔥

[@harrygrimley4352]

I'll watch. Go ahead. 😄

[@Medevil9908]

Yeah I'll go ahead and pass on trying something like that. I'm nowhere near confident enough for that trail. Props to anyone who does it.

[@marklambert8111]

Thank you

[@RickyDownhillRDH]

Yeah that's one of those things that I just know I'll never do. Over the years I've crashed on some pretty stupid trail features from fatigue or mental mistakes, for me it just isn't worth the risk, especially for clicks on my channel. Nope.

[@larsromig7243]

Not for clicks not even planned. Porter Seth and I happened to be riding. Porter wanted to show his kids the line and Ronin wanted to go again. Just happened that Seth was grabbing media and decided to make a video out of it.

[@lynxg4641]

Damn, that kid definitely has the skill and confidence to do that line, wouldn't catch me in a million years give it a go. @Eric Porter, you've got some 'splaining to do and lots of videos owed :-) Digging Milo's & Owens new bikes, expecting to see a full run down on it and the Sedona festival shortly.

[@PorterMTB]

Editing now, sorry for the delay!!!

[@mrjellow]

@@PorterMTB You are an irresponsible father.

[@lynxg4641]

Waiting patiently :-D

[@reeceholmes8546]

whats that kid gonna be doing in 10 years, thats a scary challenge he just did, thanks man

[@noahhall1270]

yes new video

[@calvingreig7157]

Hi Seth I love your vids

[@noahfcc]

Nice! I would never do that

[@Swenteno]

Just Left Sedona before the storm hit, was bummed out we had to drive back early.

[@WeekendPirate]

So crazy to ride that line 😅

[@mtbville]

That's sick! 😵

[@YukonMTB]

Hi you are my favourite KZbinr

[@saml8119]

I always thought I had great risk management… still ended up with multiple TBIs, reconstructed hips, one complete shoulder reconstruction , lacerated larynx, 2 ruptured disks and 2 bulged disks in my spine, feet and ankles that are fusing from bone spurs caused by impact and the arthritis of a 90 yr old when I hit 30. Granted most of these were from snowboarding it’s a similar sport in many ways. Can’t always predict the outcome of a sport that requires pushing the boundary for progress. Hopefully I can talk more sense into my child. Nothing wrong with these sports and still love them but doesn’t seem worth your life to me.

[@DensityMatrix1]

I feel you bro.

[@cjapps82]

C6/7 incomplete quadriplegic... I hear you.... BUT... did an adaptive Mountain bike black diamond run today. Most time you manage the risk but there are those days where it manages you.

[@saml8119]

@@cjapps82 awesome to hear stuff like this! Get out and ride!

[@rudysal1429]

I think I have pretty high risk avoidance but it's probably because I played a lot of physical sports and got inured in my teens. Knees, back, shoulders, etc. I have to manage pain daily and got into mountain biking and skiing in college and early 20s. I think I just know how messed up my body is already and avoid some of the crazy stuff.

[@jasonboyle2937]

Watching mountain bike videos when mine is broken 😖

[@heshwuan]

Ronin is only 12?! He looks no younger than at least 16.

[@walkerbrown8606]

Ya

[@JFFilmsMTB]

Yo he was cookin. Props.

[@bwilk542]

I was in one of the pink jeeps and thought that it was ridiculous when our guide said people ride their bikes across that

[@Bhav_2406]

Seth rode the white line again, this is history

[@SouthwestSasquatch]

I need a guide to try this out 😂 🤘

[@kha0sv4ktor72]

Ronin. What a cool name^^

[@Worldexplorer2390]

I miss these style of videos on this channel.

[@spacecat-nj7om]

literally death and sadness: seth: thats a bummer

[@AZMTB]

I've contemplated it more than a few times, but then seeing it in person I'm just like "yea nah."

[@Dy1pickel]

I have a creeper photo of you when you were at the expo 😂

[@drew67]

I met a local out there in Sedona, and he told me about the white line plus. It’s as the name suggests it’s the white line plus a little extra. I think there’s a video of it. The guy I met name was Simon bosman.

[@tebikes5295]

so cool

[@desireforcars8881]

Hi, Seth! I was wondering if you could do a video on how to choose the right hardtail wheels. I always have issues with mine. Either the bearings fail, or the spokes bend or break and that leads to a bent rim. Btw... I don't even ride it that hard... We don't even have a trail in my city. This is from driving down small staircases and making 30-50cm tall jumps. That's it. Thanks a lot, love your content!

[@johngutormson9619]

My son and I”s goal in a few years is to build a mountain bike trail park with a campground. You should make one and give us tips.🍻

[@dylanrem4]

Woah this is cool I know Ronin, Im on the same team as him

[@steveshot81]

wow that looks extremely dangerous

[@RealMTBAddict]

It is

[@ra7as846]

AWESOM!!!