Don't Make Your Wife A Lesbian | Doug Wilson

[@miguelbayne4506]

We need a followup video - Mothers, Don't Make Your Sons Gay.

[@cd6615]

The real pandemic

[@mackinm00se]

Lol wut.

[@sanders194539]

Yes, this has been a catastrophic problem for many young men.

[@kated4359]

YES! That would be amazing!

[@DM-dk7js]

Who cares who people sleep with 🤦🏻‍♂️ find new hobbies

[@jcpg9592]

This entire series has been a blessing, Pastor!

[@michaelcaldwell2895]

Agreed

[@mraaronludwig]

I really wish this series would go on indefinitely.

[@KevinKake_]

I wish it could

[@aubreyleonae4108]

It is, certainly, a permanent solution, rest assured.

[@Yesica1993]

These short videos are more useful/practical than hors of counseling. Anyone who is married or dating should watch them.

[@oliverallen5324]

“Actually it is neither; it is God’s world.” Amen.

[@beaver0006]

Doug - Practicing Catholic here. Loved this talk! You are rivaling our Christopher West of the Theology of the Body Chanel! Thank you! I will share this and your talks on Christian Nationalism! God Bless you, Sir! Would you consider inviting Chris West or Matt Fradd on your show? It would be a ratings bonanza.

[@jd7774d]

Growing up I never had good manly and most importantly, Godly teaching. Thank you for making this accesible. God bless you, glory to God.

[@joshjohnson8066]

Me neither.

[@horrificpleasantry9474]

I've always had self-confidence and no confusion about my sexuality, but there is so much I've found about godly masculinity that isn't innate but taught. Sometimes it's perspective, sometimes it's understanding what an appropriate expression is, rarely is it actual behavior modification for me, but all of these things are necessary and it's astonishing to me to look back and see, the more I learn, how little I was given in my upbringing.

[@DM-dk7js]

@@horrificpleasantry9474 someone who wastes their own time obsessing over who random people have sex with-is not confident in their sexuality 😂

[@aallen5256]

@@horrificpleasantry9474 What an experience that must be for those lucky ladies, sex with someone who believes they're intrinsically inferior, lust-baiters with poor leadership skills!!

[@markmeyer6729]

D M... someone who wastes time trolling should grow up. Obsessing over others religious views? Ever consider getting a real hobby? How much time you spent commenting here? Edit... 120+ comments. Mostly predictable cliches.

[@GageHerrmann]

What a great series. The last 2 or 3 episodes have helped me a lot.

[@tayzk5929]

I was going to make my wife a lesbian, but then I saw this video

[@Landis_Grant]

I read that only a woman knows how to truly satisfy a woman’s sexual desires. That’s the feminist’s skewed viewpoint.

[@JoWilliams-ud4eu]

Same bro

[@landunlocked2423]

That was actually a darn good summary of all of your posts like this good job Mr. Wilson

[@sarahdeason5875]

Best title ever….and you’ve had some good ones.🤣👌🏼

[@chickenheart896]

Really? Can't you see that Doug likes to be salacious?

[@trina2449]

New subscriber here. Thanks for all ur work, Pastor! May our Good Lord keep u, ur family, church and ministry.🙏

[@AlixPrappas]

Thank you so much for the work that you do Doug. You are one voice in a group of men I follow online that has really been helping me transform from the emasculated man I once was. May the Lord bless you, your family, and the work you are doing.

[@johnwhoissavedbygrace9975]

A modern, and more positive, Screwtapes. Good show

[@jaquirox6579]

Very helpful video! Thanks Uncle Doug.

[@keithwilson6060]

I call him Grandpa Doug.

[@s.e.garcia3635]

@@keithwilson6060 The bros and I call him Dougy so…

[@pleasedontman]

This is good Doug!

[@lesahofmeyer5735]

Laughed aloud

[@cosmictreason2242]

I’m considering D.J. Wilson to associate him with names like C.H. Spurgeon, D.A. Carson, C.S. Lewis, A.W. Pink, G.K. Chesterton, J.C. Ryle, R.C. Sproul, R.J. Rushdoony, J.R. White , etc. An elder statesman of church history. Not to blow smoke up his britches

[@CottinghammerStudios]

Thumbnail is hilarious

[@jackuber7358]

Sure wish this had been a part of the catechism when I was a younger man.

[@horrificpleasantry9474]

It really is amazing how easy it is to communicate, and yet baffling how hard it apparently is since so many of us never received it. I keep thinking, what's the excuse? Is it that the older generation didn't know, or that they assumed it didn't need to be taught, or that they were too afraid to teach it because they had become emasculated as well? I will make a difference, I tell you that

[@elijahgrajkowski2505]

Unresolved sin issues in their own lives and marriages; not understanding the deliberate intentionality needed in teaching these things; an assumption of them, so there was no need to actually address them, but the assumption that they would just be “caught” non-verbally.

[@Landis_Grant]

My supervisor’s wife left him for a woman lover so he said. Some of us believed she had an affair with a man and our supervisor tried to save face by lying.

[@square_kirby7852]

Wait how would saying she left him for a woman instead of a man change anything?? Thats a stupid thing to lie about

[@JoiskiMe]

Unironically, thank you, uncle. Thank you Pastor Wilson.

[@jameshanson536]

This discourse is a classic and so very much on target! Thanks Pastor Wilson.

[@MrRussel]

Thank you Uncle Doug.

[@jjmonty8090]

I like your post because Uncle Doug is whiter than the clouds, but it doesn’t matter - and it shouldn’t. He’s still our uncle…right on bro

[@jacobcollins2861]

What beautiful & concise wisdom here.

[@dsanders74]

Bro! I heard about this video in a men's bible study... home run!!!

[@kensmith1813]

That video title will surely get someone's attention.

[@RiversEdgeGardens]

Thank you pastor. Have you used the stars to tell time? The day? I’m digging.

[@stankwilliamsjr.8949]

You made me hang in there for the mic drop line but glad I did!

[@metrotechnet]

Can I like this more than once? Wish it were possible.

[@neuroplasticity7235]

I have been struggling a long time with Ephesians 6:4 fathers do not provoke your children to anger, lest they lose heart. And never could find the rest of the story, of the child who was provoked to anger and did loose heart. What is this child supposed to do? I have found that i have C-ptsd _ (complex post traumatic stress disorder) from child hood. Would love to hear your expert thoughts in this subject. Thank you for all your great words.

[@mackinm00se]

Dude isn’t a psychologist. Please speak to someone with training.

[@horrificpleasantry9474]

it doesn't say "lest they lose heart." It says do not provoke them to wrath, but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. In other words, if you are an inconsistent disciplinarian, you exasperate your kids by making them subject to the whim of your displeasure instead of helping them to be governed by God's law

[@seanservo3105]

Col 3:21, not Eph. Did you find that diagnosis for yourself, or did someone tell you? As someone else who didn't have dream parents, I became a parent myself. I didn't let my parents' perceived shortcomings settle my future for me as well. They were only in charge of my past. Becoming a parent myself opened my eyes to how hard parenting is, and so how much mercy I hope my children will give me, and so how much mercy I should also show my parents.

[@robertfishter2862]

Forgive your Father.

[@jamiesmith9827]

Thank you for your videos!

[@beasst55]

"...that would make your wife a lesbian..." LOL brilliant!

[@derekc4415]

My wife has made herself a pasted of her church which is a petocost church and now she is a womanist and says God has called her. She has tested me and does what she wants and it’s sad. Please pray that God changes her hardened hart.

[@justanotherbaptistjew5659]

Very sad this series is over. My name is actually Dawson, so it was easy to pretend this was actually addressed to me lol.

[@JeNJeN-mk4dv]

Thank you sir.

[@Herostatus1991]

The Fact my Uncle Doug uses Giga Chad in a thumbnail edifies my spirit Be a man, Keep the faith squad 💪 1Cor16:13

[@JonAdamsMinistries]

Man what a title definitely got me to click!

[@aidenmarshall6478]

How did you bring giga chad into this?

[@horrificpleasantry9474]

Listening to Doug's advice will turn you into giga Chad that's what

[@nametheunknown_]

Sounds like wisdom to me!

[@simonistrate4354]

Pure Gold!

[@RealFredbaby]

The benefits of sexual reproduction in evolution is genetic diversity, whereas in binary fission (asexual reproduction) the diversity was dependent on random mutations

[@Shepherd20.28]

You concede a purpose?

[@TGP109]

@@Shepherd20.28 Well, asexual reproduction is still around, so. Not all people look for a purpose in what they see around them. Does there have to be a purpose?

[@thelastoferrathen613]

I always knew Pastor Doug was related to the Gigachad.

[@Yesica1993]

😆

[@lennyisakbaev3092]

Dwell community church in Columbus has an event called XSI. Maybe you could teach there

[@georgeakoto6589]

This is awesome! Glory be to God. Thanks pastor Doug.

[@georgettaavila7398]

Have you read C.S. Lewis' That Hideous Strength? Male and Female is a theme that runs through the whole story.

[@markmeyer6729]

If you appreciate Lewis, you might check out G. K. Chesterton. He was Roman Catholic, so probably some theological perspective to bear in mind, but had a keen grasp of both the intellectual and cultural issues of his time. Noted, and rightly so, for great wit as well as intellectual acuity. The "issues" of his time developed into the trends of the 20th century (he was a bit older than Lewis), so it is of more than academic interest towards understanding what has happened since the "great war".

[@georgettaavila7398]

@@markmeyer6729 I have only read Chesterton"s Father Brown mysteries. I should get to know him better.

[@cosmictreason2242]

@Georgetta Avila his quote on ‘those who have seen, and yet have believed,’ is prescient

[@jacknelson4073]

Hi Georgetta, Doug has an excellent lecture series that he gave on "The Ransom Trilogy" (The trilogy commonly referred to as "The space trilogy," but Doug coined the new title for reasons outlined in said lecture series) that he gave at New Saint Andrews college and is available on their KZbin channel. You would probably, therefore, enjoy it very much. God bless.

[@jimhughes1070]

When I recognize that they were teaching us "evolutionary theory" in school in the 60s... Lots of questions came to mind... Cleaning the question of reproduction,.. of course the teacher had no idea what she was talking about so all we got was..."cell division"🤣🤣🤣🤣 apparently you don't have to know what you're doing when you're just following government instructions! ♥️

[@morgangreenlee2091]

So good

[@Tadneiko]

Best title ever

[@eddiegollaz5156]

Giga chad 😂😂

[@justinchamberlain3443]

4:01 but I have no free will so how do I select a wife? And how do you not see your advice your giving and your determinism makes no sense and is completely contradictory

[@holinessofthebride1935]

That objection is immature, and it has been answered a thousand times by Reformed people. Predestination is fully biblical: “For truly against Your holy Servant Jesus, whom You anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the people of Israel, were gathered together “to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose determined before to be done.

[@cosmictreason2242]

My only criticism is that more is needed, but you’ve got to cover more subjects. Perhaps I can use my own channel to emphasize some of these principles and proverbs

[@TypicalTGreen]

"These freaks..." 🤣

[@foghornleghorn262]

Will Smith's wife Jada I think falls into the lesbian catagory.

[@rebekahguilder602]

I can't even with that whole situation. Will Smith is broken man and his wife feels powerful because she destroyed him. I wish someone would tell her not to feel so high and mighty. Satan helped her. 😢

[@essentialpunisher5181]

Treat her like a queen and she will treat you like a servant.

[@jjmonty8090]

@@essentialpunisher5181 I disagree. The only reason she would treat you like a servant is if you allow it and you are not the king. Be the king, treat her like the queen.

[@rebekahguilder602]

@@essentialpunisher5181 I think that is an oversimplification. My husband SPOILS me but he doesn't allow any disrespect at all. I spoil him too. It's mutual. So I may be the queen of the castle but my husband is 100% the king of the castle.

[@mackinm00se]

Lol wut.

[@Jomare-j3b]

Thankyou

[@TheologiaEvangelica]

In the pickup artist lingo of the early 2000's, this pitfall is called 'one-itis'.

[@Alien1375]

Quote unquote something.

[@RoninofFortune]

Ehhhhhh this is good for the ever shrinking dogmatic community. It's not BAD Uncle Doug, I think it's just late. Atlas has already fallen. What is bad will become worse. What is good will become more distant. The women have been effectively conditioned to selfish independence and the men have been corralled into the pens. Now I'm all for trying to revive the culture, but I suspect and observe that God's wrath is still very much at play. And that says something. If his hand is not being TRULY seen, we need to keep asking why. And again I agree with this, I just think the roots need to be cut more in this.

[@horrificpleasantry9474]

Doug should write letters to a niece (or daughter if it's more appropriate) next.

[@chickenheart896]

No. Please not another "oh, them women!"

[@seanservo3105]

When I get angry at hubby, I start doing everything I can for myself and stop asking him or letting him volunteer. He hates it, bc he likes being useful, and that's what makes me ultimately stop being a brat. I always wanted someone to rely on me as well, to need me, and he truly does. Thank God.

[@horrificpleasantry9474]

@Stephanos77 uh, baby?

[@Destractoid]

@Stephanos77 I don't think I've ever heard someone say they think the term "hubby" is patronizing before. I mean, if you don't want your wife to call you that, then fine I guess. But I myself (and most others for that matter) see it more as a term of endearment.

[@jjmonty8090]

@Stephanos77 I actually have heard many men call their wife "wifey". I don't consider hubby at all patronizing, I consider it a type of endearing abbreviation.

[@smacd1978]

so redeem the word "use" as it differs from "abuse" and redeem the mantra "act like men" as it differs from "happy wife happy life"

[@jjmonty8090]

Perhaps one should also consider redeeming the phrase happy wife, happy life. There is nothing objectively wrong with having a happy wife. It does lead to a happier life. The reason we don’t like the phrase is because it means to everyone that we should give our wives everything they want. Yet our wives are most happy when we are godly, strong men and in our place as leader of our homes. This way makes my wife happy, thus, “happy wife, happy life”.

[@scottmacdonald5170]

@@jjmonty8090 I think the deeper meaning is men avoiding the wrath of their wife by keeping them happy. That's a bad goal. Sure it could be redeemed somewhat to mean that we want to contribute to our wives happiness. But overall, I'm not a fan of even a partially redeemed phrase because it undermines the covenantal nature of marriage. If falls off the horse to one side so to speak.

[@jjmonty8090]

@@scottmacdonald5170 I understand your point and agree that usually, that is what the phrase would mean. What I am doing is fighting back against the "other" side of the ditch, that is, where men here on this thread (and anytime Wilson posts a man/wife video) take it too far as far. Some of the posts show despicable men gathering Biblical ammo to use against their wives, forgetting that their wives are the other part of THEM. (Eph 5)... Forgetting that the marriage is a representation of Christ... Forgetting the man's role of dying for his bride...if they ever knew at all. Yes, feminism is rampant. Yes, men are cast in a negative light. Yes, the scales should be just and balanced. Yes, wives have done wrong. But why should we allow the pendulum to swing, with severity again, this time toward men's rights and exaltation? May it never be. May we disciple our young men and old to know that they carry the weight of leadership, authority, responsibility, kingship/priesthood etc. AND teach them the beauty, royalty, wonder, intoxication of love (Prov 5) etc. of the wife of our youth. She is the most precious gift one could ever receive, outside of the grace and Salvation of our Lord.

[@horrificpleasantry9474]

@@jjmonty8090 "But why should we allow the pendulum to swing, with severity again, this time toward men's rights and exaltation?" You've got a problem with men's rights? And if by exaltation, you mean 'bringing up from a low position,' then yeah, if they have been downtrodden wrongly, they should be 'exalted.' Not the word I would use, though. It was your word choice, which I think is unhelpful. I'm with you on the premise of not falling into either ditch. I'm a little wary of whether your methods accomplish that, so if I oppose something you say, read it that way.

[@jjmonty8090]

@@horrificpleasantry9474 You missed the word “severity”. When the pendulum swings, it forgets woman’s rights and exalts mens. Yes, exalt means to lift up. No problem, just lift both and only to their rightful heights and not any higher.

[@daviddavydenko9586]

SOLID 🤝🏻

[@Kayokak]

This should be required 'reading' in school. Not public schools obviously, they've gone the way of Balaam.

[@friendshipchronicles]

Hey BLOG & MABLOG - throw some light denoiser on your audio before export

[@horrificpleasantry9474]

how to do this in DVR? I'm learning

[@JasonWorks-rf1yt]

Which God's word is the Bible?... Elohim that is translated God and gods (1 time in the same), the creator God from Genesis 1, or Genesis 2? Which creation myth and order? Which Jesus.. the Jesus with 27 generations between Joseph and David, or the Jesus with 42 generations between Joseph and David in luke?

[@horrificpleasantry9474]

Don't say it's over, Doug!

[@jacewilson2729]

I have multiple questions that I desire to have unraveled. First, you make almost no case for men who would be considered to be more "emotional" than most others. Second, in your eighth video you mention that you shouldn't tell the girl you are taking out anything big about your personal life. I thoroughly disagree with this point. I am not going to take up this wonderful young woman's valuable time and not let her know what she is getting herself into with me. Now, I am not saying that I don't have a lot to offer, I do, but I believe with all my heart that a woman deserves to know what kind of lifestyle I plan on leading her in for the rest of our existence sooner rather than later. What happens if we go on all these dates and I have told her extremely little about myself and I have made a good impression on her, as you said by my following your advice, when she asks me where I see myself in ten years and I say at a pulpit somewhere in Japan? She had no intentions of ever leaving the U.S and now all of a sudden we have a major issue at hand. We went on all these dates thinking we might work out only to find that our plans for the future are drastically different to the point that we can no longer be together? Now we are both left with a sad reality and heartbreak that could have been avoided on day one if I had only shared the path of life I planed on leading this entire time.

[@square_kirby7852]

Dude i think you just need to stop consuming this guy's content you're only setting yourself up for failure in your relationships. Do what feels right for you

[@JoseVelazquez-su5nm]

So, if I don't want to make my wife a lesbian, I should scream louder at her than she screams at me? (Hypothetically speaking)

[@jjmonty8090]

I'm pretty sure (from experience) that that will not work. Instead, you should control yourself and take control of the situation as a Godly man. That might be by giving a gentle answer (Prov 15:1) or standing firmly on God's Word in a self-controlled manner (Gal 5, 2 Tim 1).

[@horrificpleasantry9474]

Jose I hope you're not being serious.

[@JoseVelazquez-su5nm]

@@horrificpleasantry9474 I wasn't being completely serious. It was a hypothetical. Just for clarification, based on what Doug said in the video.

[@horrificpleasantry9474]

@@JoseVelazquez-su5nm at face value, your suggestion would actually BE to make your wife a lesbian by quarreling with her like a woman. Trying to get your way by essentially nagging and using words like weapons is effeminate behavior

[@JoseVelazquez-su5nm]

@@horrificpleasantry9474 Oh that's interesting. I hadn't thought of it that way. My issue is that Doug, in the video and elsewhere uses examples of a wife "testing" her husband (even if only subconsciously) and if he doesn't "stand up" to the task, she will happy to have won but disappointed at the same time. I know what asserting oneself looks like and I've definitely seen some men out there who carry themselves like whipped dogs when their wives are present, I was just clarifying that asserting oneself as a man isn't some sort of exercise in "two eyes for one eye," if that makes any sense at all.

[@antonioalvarado6234]

🤖???

[@c.s.froggis9982]

Dear Doug, God made man first and put man over woman. Please read Genesis and First Corinthians. Boomer half-way christian feminism by trying to neutralize God's order rather than to affirm and follow it is to give way to complete feminism and the devil.

[@masonpatterson1372]

Encore! Encore!

[@americanlostinvietnam3721]

learned a new word today 'innervating'. How about the topic "men, don't let a woman make you gay" Stop doing gay self-innervating acts bcs of women.

[@jacksonmiller6679]

Where does sexual fetish originate?

[@interworld75]

Mic drop

[@KellymomTan-zu6kr]

Good grief!

[@peterkel4451]

First time watching this channel, had to watch twice to realize he was talking to married men in the church. Expected a few verses from the Bible to support this edifying advice. I was wrong, just like the time I thought I married a decent Christian woman. Salt please, got a plate of bitterness here! Live for pleasure, laugh at others misfortunes, and love yourself. On the contrary. Paul's view of not getting married seems more peaceful, but then my argument for masterbation would have made me blind. Guess I was the idiot for believing that old saying. Realized when I said "you fool" I bit off more than I could handle. Life seems to be dangerous, should I not worry about tomorrow? Jesus has the keys and he is the one we should seek. I didn't hear much about him in the video.

[@horrificpleasantry9474]

Your comment is almost impossible to discern, except that it is negative. What is your point?

[@robertfishter2862]

I think what Doug has to say is based on the Bible. If you're not sure, read the Bible.

[@peterkel4451]

@@horrificpleasantry9474 what was the negative part, and how may I help discern my comment. I do question my own sense of pride in it... Like why comment to what seems to be something God has chosen to do before I made this comment. At the end of this the hope I have is in Jesus Christ.

[@peterkel4451]

@@robertfishter2862 thank you for the suggestion. Romans ch 1:26 God hands them over to shameful lust. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. The verse prior to this tells us why! If you take this video as just this video you may not be getting sufficient nourishment on marriage and how Jesus and the Church aren't too different from a man and a woman in a relationship or marriage if you will. And now for that verse... Romans ch 1:25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator - who is forever praised. Amen. Genesis ch 1 we find out about the Creator right off the rip and John ch 1 will bring you to an understanding of why Jesus is so important. God's amazing plan unfolding before mankind's eyes.

[@owenmcmillan5734]

And the woman is the weaker vessel!!!!

[@Insurgent_AF]

I will NEVER be anyones girlfriend and I’m OFFENDED that you would suggest such a thing to your audience. But I guess most people who listen to you are used to hearing you put them down. Lord have mercy.

[@chrispfeifer7628]

They are used to it. I can't with these people

[@Insurgent_AF]

@@chrispfeifer7628 are you confirming my assessment that the intended audience of a statement like that is intelligently conditioned to comply with guilt trips? Then you agree that this must stop. We cannot create a worse problem while trying to solve a problem. Iniquitous decrees.

[@horrificpleasantry9474]

This ain't it, chief

[@omofumaighodalo432]

Beta!

[@horrificpleasantry9474]

@Caleb P interesting.... Like a woman... 🤔 Intriguing angle of attack

[@Faust2Dr]

Doug's definition of a lesbian seems to be any woman who stands up for themselves!

[@cosmictreason2242]

The joke in the title is referring to a woman being in a relationship with an effeminate man

[@Romans8Shaman1]

It ain't blind chance. Disagree w you on evolution. Everything else you are right about.

[@cosmictreason2242]

The experts who believe in it and defined the field assert that it’s blind chance.

[@geneticsmatter3834]

"But Doug, the bible says 'neither male nor female'!! So doesn't that mean that we shouldn't acknowledge secks differences!?" Of course not! Yet when it comes to rayce.... "nEiThEr Dj0o NoR gReEk" means we have to pretend rayce doesn't have any political or cultural significance.

[@Charles.Wright]

Key phrase is "in Christ." In other contexts, such as marriage, the most important identifiers are male and female. Is there some utility in calling my brother the Hispanic spouse, or his wife the black spouse (or whatever)?

[@chickenheart896]

Wow. Another title showing the rather salacious cast of DW's mind. Seriously, what is the obsession with the constant sexual imagery? How many men in your audience upon seeing this title immediately "go there" in their thoughts? Go ahead, I know you're going to delete this post too.

[@cosmictreason2242]

This is a pretty weak argument. I mean, you’re the one commenting by ‘going there,’ and most of the viewers who liked the content did not…

[@chickenheart896]

@@cosmictreason2242 It's not an argument. It's an observation. DW is being deliberately provocative with this title. I'm sure many of his fans chortled with approving delight when they saw it. Does he ever consider Philippians 4:8?

[@cosmictreason2242]

@ChickenHeart he’s deliberately getting people’s attention with the title so they’ll click? The horror. It stands out because the thought of making your wife a lesbian is strange and obviously counterproductive, so one wonders what they could possibly do to accomplish that. And then he tells them. Truth in advertising

[@rockycomet4587]

@@chickenheart896 Hell yeah it's deliberately provocative! 💪💪💪

[@chickenheart896]

@@cosmictreason2242 O.K. I'm going to try this again. It seems they deleted my reply to you. A Christian husband is not going to turn his wife into a lesbian because he is not "manly" enough. It's absurd. With all this dire advice, Doug's "nephew" must be a nervous wreck. I would be very surprised if "he" EVER got married.

[@ps8891]

I'm sorry pastor, but this was awful. It was painful to listen to you read your script. Talk to us with some personal passion. Some of your arguments/reasons were thoughtless church drivel. I'm sure you can do better.

[@chickenheart896]

Don't be surprised if they delete your post or shadow-ban you. Happens all the time to those who don't toe the party line that Pastor Doug is the last word in theology and Biblical manhood.

[@JJo-zx5pg]

definitely the left side.

[@antonioalvarado6234]

🤖???