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[@Shadow75]

Matt, thank you for showing this lock & all it's features! I've been designing commercial security systems for nearly 2 decades & have always been disappointed when looking for a truly secure smart-lock for my own home. You just made my week with this!

[@pjb8493]

Good ideas and impressive. But as long as it's plastic like that, no deal. There should be a 100% brass option like any other door hardware and that includes the battery cover.

[@stevenwilgus8982]

Plastic actually has a factor that literally evaporates over time. So I totally agree with you.

[@scania9786]

You know it will be a 10 min sales pitch, when it is complicated to lift the handle to lock your door.

[@turboflush]

I was very interested when you showed this before. Glad you gave it a spot. Level lock is a invisible version of the smart locks. I hate the bulky boxes.

[@anyfoolknowthat]

Yep, that’s why I went with Level. Unfortunately it’s latency is too high, and they haven’t fine tuned automatic locking/unlocking

[@turboflush]

@@anyfoolknowthat i dont have much problem with latency. Often just takes a second more than pulling out my keys (empty arms). I noticed as battery gets lower it gets buggy. I would prefer a full rfid only version. The battery lasts about a year.

[@seanr8213]

had to comment. selling doors and hardware to contractors since 97. 1. multipoint locks are used by door manufacturers because they help prevent warp related replacement claims, and here in Florida they have to pass testing for water penetration, and a multipoint lock is better than a deadbolt and lever for that. They aren't necessarily stronger than a deadbolt or mortise lock on an outswing door, and get hung up and bound locked/unlocked far more easily than a latch and deadbolt. 2. We use pallets of Endura's thresholds every week, but the Endura rep won't even say the word "trilennium" to us, which was Endura's last multipoint lock which quickly became as popular as Ford Edsels and New Coke. Can only estimate spending at least 50 hours troubleshooting those locks, and I hardly saw any of them compared to Hoppe and G-U. 3. The bad news on all of these new electronic locks is that the electronics never have more than a 2 year warranty(often 1 yr), and the word "electronic" adds $200-400 to the price. They don't sell the boards separately, so you are buying an entire lock when you know all you need is the electronics. When I tell people that, it's like I just killed Santa Claus. And Schlage, Emtek, Kwikset, Baldwin et al don't include weatherstrip/gaskets with their locks, which would be a good idea on an exterior door with electronics inside. Check with your local door company, they can tell you about the call backs more than the company showroom display. And ask about the electronic warranty before you buy anything. Most people are stretching to pay for an electronic lock, but they don't plan on shelling out $400 every two years.

[@BobPritchard]

I wish Endura would list certified OEM's on their site. Looks like a great solution but to force the builder to hunt around for someone who has experience adding this system in is a time waster.

[@dingus153]

You've gotta wonder how many people will buy this system for security, only to install shitty, easy to pick locks 😂

[@mistere5857]

Recommendations for "good" locks?

[@praetorianblade6490]

@@mistere5857 abloy, the best.

[@shenalally2214]

They are catering to the criminal element with the hope they wont get their door breached. Bah ah ah ahahahah

[@cornpop7805]

That's because when a burglar uses a bump key, there is no evidence of it, unless it's caught on video or a witness. Otherwise, those bump key breaches don't get listed in the law enforcement statistics as a lock pick. As such, lock manipulation entry has to account for a much higher percentage. They catch a lot of criminals with bump key sets, two types will get you into +90% of homes. Schlage and Kwickset or locks using their same keyways are "protecting" nearly every residential door in the US.

[@creepingcharly]

@@mistere5857 I went with Bowley locks and have been very happy with them after a couple years. They are a great bang for your buck secure lock. You can go with Abloy or Medeco too but they are much more expensive.

[@MikeCaskey]

Love this. I'm a homeowner (on the verge of becoming a builder) and would love this for all of my swing doors.

[@ricks3184]

Makes me wonder how long it would take the Lock Picking Lawyer to get in.

[@dingus153]

Probably about 10 seconds, and that's without touching the lock itself

[@NicholasLittlejohn]

Hinges are exposed 👏

[@TimHoff85]

In the time that it took you to write your comment, he's already in and showing you a second time that it wasn't a fluke.

[@turboflush]

Most burglees wont care to gently pick a lock. They will try and break the door open (not hard) the. Go for the window. This will def slow them down. If they are picking your lock.. What are you hiding? Lol

[@turboflush]

@JustAnotherTowerClimber clearly. Perhaps not worth the joke. Its not relevant

[@augustreil]

I'm all for security, but thieves take the easiest way. If the door looks too hard, it's a pin prick to a window and they are in and out within 1 minute with anything worthwhile.

[@audisportracer]

You typed that out but yet, I have a feeling you still lock your car doors full well knowing a thief can still do a smash and grab.

[@augustreil]

@@audisportracer, You typed that all out even when you know it's obviously a good idea to lock any door.

[@keim3548]

Security film

[@BLKMGK4]

​ @august and I'd take the most secure door lock I can get....

[@urbanjungle9600]

Doesnt routing out a door pocket of this increased size weaken the door to such a degree that it would just be easier to kick the door open?

[@creepingcharly]

Isn't that part of the door just normally filled with foam anyways on steel doors?

[@jnyates]

I considered that too, but he showed them doing the tests with the ram, so I say no.

[@24revealer]

@@creepingcharly Yes it is, unless its a solid wood door.

[@JohnAnderson-br8zo]

Regardless if the door is steel or wood. It’s being replaced with a steel locking channel which makes up for 70% of the router. When a door is kicked in 99% of the time the jam fails. Very rarely does the door fail unless it’s solid wood Now the 3 points of contact will make it harder to break in, basically a man kicking the door won’t be able to get in as if it was a standard lock.

[@assog5737]

You all would be surprised. Most the time its easier to kick in the hinge side. Because the hinge screws are so short.

[@rustywranglesarizona4310]

Good job Matt we are just about to put new french doors and patio doors in our old ranch house. Now I went these...

[@hector.abrach]

Thank you, but no thank you. I have enough "smart" things in my life. Don't want to be switching batteries on anything.

[@buildshow]

But the beautiful thing is that it works fine with batteries and no one would be the wiser.

[@curtcmiller]

Get the one without. He shows two options.

[@tonytango6676]

The AA batteries in my Schlage YRD216 have lasted about two years now and I’m still at 57% but then I don’t use my door all that much.

[@creepingcharly]

After the company stops supporting the software in 5-10 years you'll have a hacked computer in your door with access to your home network if you got that bridge. Anything connected to your home through the internet needs constant security patching or it's a liability, whether it's beautifully hidden in your door or not. The lifecycle for all this new "smart tech" is way too short for homes. Anything put into a home needs a lifecycle of decades not years like most of that stuff is today.

[@hector.abrach]

@@creepingcharly 100% agree. Every company wants to make apps call it starting with an "i" or ending with a "+". A lot of things are good "dumb" no one asked to make them smart.

[@tedspens]

I just want the hardware. I know I can retrofit that in most old doors. Awesome system!

[@doughay6263]

The lock mechanism is good. The electronics, not so much. Bluetooth is notably insecure. The electronic lock is a convenience, not a safety system. However, given how easy locks are to pick (Watch the Lock Picking Lawyer for example), I suspose it is all about the same.

[@shenalally2214]

The guts are plastic so Im not convinced a second breach attempt wouldnt break the locking mechanism.

[@xxZerosumxx]

If someone really wants in, they will get in. Maybe through a window.

[@randomrazr]

imagine cost when it breaks

[@FlipnKraut]

You’re more likely to win the lottery than be burglarized by someone picking your front door lock. You’re more likely to jump and land on the moon than by someone gaining access by exploiting Bluetooth security flaws.

[@Hubris2]

@@FlipnKraut Statistically you are absolutely correct, but that doesn't mean we should only secure our doors with elastic bands because "how many times do strangers walk up and just test that your door is latched". If security is your focus, then you aren't going to go for an electronic lock - but you also aren't going to have any windows without bars.

[@Smooththatsme]

I like this guy! “Let’s get going “!

[@markm0000]

This is really nice. I would have liked NFC tags instead of using my phone. They don’t need software updates or security patches.

[@MGXsport]

Or when the company goes out of business you don't have to rely on an app that is not updated anymore.

[@markm0000]

@@MGXsport I think it’s easy to just tear apart the smart add on and replace its guts with a simple Arduino with a NFC reader.

[@bigneilh]

I have been thinking about this for 10 years. How we don't have 3 point locks on the active doors with standard hardware is beyond me - and now we do!

[@007taino]

We do its called keyless deadbolts!

[@turboflush]

Cost. Most people are cheap.

[@TheKingOfInappropriateComments]

It looks like a better evolution of a deadbolt but it does look a little cheaply made. I'm not trying to be a jerk but those plastic housings and the latches look like some white metal like zinc and those coiled battery springs just look like it could be more robust. I could be totally wrong but that's how it looks in HD on my screen.

[@skygh]

I predict these will have short lives. Endura's designers are goofy frankly. Their Ultimate Astragal is an engineering nightmare.

[@skygh]

I custom install/repair multipoint locks and have not been impressed with Endura products longevity hitherto. They fail enough I keep their parts in my service van.

[@JoeTaber]

What multipoint lock system would you recommend?

[@skygh]

@@JoeTaber Hoppe and GU are decent brands I use. I am not in love with any of them as none are great but Endura is the only brand for which I keep a replacement gearbox chassis and parts in my van.

[@MadLadsAnonymous]

@@skyghDo either Hoppe or GU have a multipoint lock that works with a smart lock system?

[@skygh]

@@MadLadsAnonymous I have read about the Yale Conexis and the Ultion which are smart locks but have not worked with them. I don’t know of any digital multipoint locks yet but I spend most of my time servicing existing locks so I’m not involved in direct sales

[@MadLadsAnonymous]

@@skygh Thanks. I'm looking at KFV multipoint locks but would also like multipoint along the jamb side and bottom rail. Not sure where to find that hardware.

[@johnfithian-franks8276]

Hi Matt, all you need to get into that and any modern lock is a hammer and screwdriver, you put the screwdriver into the lock hole and hit it with the hammer nonce and turn the screwdriver

[@jdrissel]

Oh crud. That bluetooth thing is almost certainly vulnerable to repeater attacks. Basically someone outside puts a high gain antenna pointing at your phone and relays whatever it sends to a low gain antenna outside the door and vice versa. From the door's POV your phone is outside the door even though it is actually on your nightstand. This could be mitigated by the lock requiring interaction with the phone (at least some of the time, such as when you are usually asleep or at work). But having those fins activated electronically does open up some great possibilities. For example the system could activate the fins when the door closes (but is not locked). In this mode they would retract when the entey set is operated. This would reduce a lot of air leakage on doors that are frequently accessed. It would also help on interior doors where sound transmission matters. This might open up the market to putting this on bedroom doors (without a deadbolt)!

[@snds2236]

Interesting premise, but I want to know if this is HomeKit enabled and what level of software security testing has been done on the software. Having a way to use the battery pack as a power backup but also running a power line to and through the door hinge would be great in the event of a power failure. The fact that they didn't show off the app or whether it uses HomeKit to enhance privacy and security concerns me. I'd also like to know if this supports any higher end locks that are harder to pick, etc.

[@tonytango6676]

The battery pack powers the Bluetooth module so that it can detect the presence of your phone so it can unlock the door automatically. I am sure that the app on your phone is notified of the battery level every time you get close to the door. Those batteries can last for six months or a year depending on how often you open the door. I have a similar bulky keypad on my door so I have a good idea of what goes on there. Now if those batteries die on you then you simply use your key to open the door. Which reminds me. I’ll have to double check that my key opens my door because I actually haven’t used it for about two years now. I’ve just been using the keypad with the same batteries and I’m still at 57%. Now as far as the deadbolt and lock itself goes you can put anything in there you want that is standard hardware. So instead of a $40 Deadbolt put in a $200 Deadbolt with a fancy pick resistant core and fancy keys. I have no idea about the HomeKit stuff.

[@travisversher7928]

The whole point of this is that you can get higher security locks. This is designed for you to use any trim, as he stated towards the end. This is a good idea for brute force entry.

[@BLKMGK4]

I'd want it to be capable of hooking into HomeAssistant, with a BT radio it might not be too bad to do.

[@christopherpayne7653]

Agreed about HomeKit and cybersecurity. Cybersecurity is likely a weak point of this system. I’m guessing Endura hasn’t got a lot of expertise in that area, and they probably sub out the electronics. Even good lock companies (e.g., Allegion/Schlage) struggle with this. It’d be good to know more about the tech specs on the product, including Endura’s commitment to ongoing software maintenance, etc.

[@gasparma2316]

What’s the link to your video show casing that attic lift?

[@MarcMercier1971]

Wow. That system, a Bowley lock and hinge security pins... that'd keep the thieves at bay.

[@psyfusion]

Genius and slick

[@willwatson3614]

Is it Z-Wave compatible?

[@T0M3K6]

That is something that is quite standard in Europe. But good to see it adapted to US locks

[@TheTurbinator]

This is how all the front door have been here in Europe for the past 30 years. You guys are just getting this now?!!

[@Alogan227]

I think this is awesome, another question I have is some states require that you install a Deadbolt that only shows on the inside if you want to rent out the home at a later date. Does this product allow that to happen?

[@kiwdwks]

So awesome...thanks for the video!

[@Kawitamamayi]

Very cool but a 5 or 6 pin core lock can still be picked in 30-60 seconds.

[@timoteogarcia1581]

I recently found a multipoint lock door with 18 points of contact at home depot. The door felt rock solid and operated just like a normal door, only difference: many key turns to close the door.

[@24revealer]

Can you post a link?

[@timoteogarcia1581]

@@24revealer it has actually only 16 points of contact.

[@24revealer]

@@timoteogarcia1581 I'm going to have to call BS on this one without a link.

[@24revealer]

@@timoteogarcia1581 put the description here so I can search it. Model # etc

[@timoteogarcia1581]

@@24revealer you should find it as "puerta de seguridad Texas derecha"

[@tgbz3301]

this is GREAT!!! Any info for those of us looking to upgrade our security with sliding glass doors?

[@joeycarrillo8371]

Why is the so hard to find?

[@007taino]

Hhmm i am sticking to the old fashioned way just add keyless deadbolts!

[@neogator26]

This is impressive. As an engineer that is fairly tech savvy I find smart home devices neat but not really that impressive. They seem to be a logical progression of technology. This door system is truly impressive set up. I will be looking into getting one of these on my house.

[@grizzlygrizzle]

If you're into the internet of things, you should find out about Amazon Sidewalk before you jump in with both feet.

[@neogator26]

@@grizzlygrizzle Thanks, I'll have to check that out.

[@lyfandeth]

I'd love that on my steel fire door!

[@homes24]

Anyone that's real about security would laugh at the Bluetooth pairing to your phone to unlock..... It's not that hard to replicate that connection with a little grey hat Linux skills. The tri point lock also does not look that secure.... Better than one I guess though.

[@grizzlygrizzle]

And then there's Amazon Sidewalk, one of the most sinister Big-Tech invasions against privacy and control of internet-of-things devices.

[@beurky]

Tell them to come to Canada !

[@StealthNinja4577]

I'd like to see the lock picking lawyer take a crack at defeating this door

[@tonytango6676]

You can put any deadbolt with any core and any key you want in this kit that is added to a door. So just ask LPL which deadbolt took him at least 60 seconds to pick. Or Bosnian Bill.

[@StealthNinja4577]

@@tonytango6676 usually with high tech locks there's a host of attacks that don't even bother with picking the core because there's obvious security flaws. I meant to go down the road of seeing if emp, drilling in a key spot, shimming, striking, attacking the hinges, magnets, etc are protected against.

[@petrirantavalli859]

@@StealthNinja4577 Of which easiest by far is to excite the solenoid valve with a strong magnet.

[@TheGibby13]

Less than a minute I'll bet lol

[@JoeTaber]

Bluetooth-based systems are often vulnerable to replay attacks (record when you unlock, replay the code to unlock when you've left) or extension attacks (stand next to you at the grocery store and route the bluetooth signal from your phone over the cell network, essentially "extending" the bluetooth range to any distance). It's possible to eliminate the replay attack with a good design for generating codes, but bluetooth doesn't really offer high precision timing information needed to mitigate the extension attack. Is this something they consider? The Apple Watch can unlock Macbooks by proximity, but the system ensures the watch is within a few feet of the laptop by only unlocking if the response signal returned within a couple *nanoseconds, which is the time it takes for light to traverse from the laptop to the watch and back* (plus a time-optimized response circuit). Any extension attack cannot break the speed of light so it won't work.

[@sociopathmercenary]

Lock Picking Lawyer: Click on 1...

[@l...]

Can you do this on garage doors Fridge door

[@browntigerus]

This is Matt Risinger advertisement for PanoLock system. It is NOT compatible with most smartlocks. It does not use your lock manufacture hardware. The lock part is really in the middle between deadbolt and the nob. Special trim kits are white plastics (the reason for this door). U can buy this from ABP. This multipoint system has issues, it uses fiberglass reinforced gears. These gears are failing quite frequently (rumors). Unlike Nest & Yale hardware the smart hardware can not be externally powered, nor has digital keyboard. These locks are easy to open. Bluetooth is unreliable [2 year warranty] and can not be replaced without replacing the entire lock. Be aware there are issues with this system and all MultiPoint's, but if you have 8' door they do help to avoid warping. Alternatively you can rout a steel plate.

[@crowbarzero]

Lockpicking Lawyer: 4 seconds to pick this lock

[@kitvonsuck6074]

Matt,,Endura Data Sheet(s) are where?

[@McMovesdotcom]

great showcase... be cool if there were a link to the product.

[@RogerWilsonTodd]

Does EntrySync support Matter so that I can operate it with the SmartHome tech of my choice?

[@iadc43]

Deja vu - ish feelings watching this

[@johnboleyjr.1698]

"This is the Lock Picking Lawyer, and what I have for today is..." @LockPickingLawyer

[@tonytango6676]

So put in an LPL/Bosnian bill recommended core in your deadbolt. Along with the keys

[@snowgorilla9789]

ABOUT TIME a company saw the need, can you buy a stock door ready to install or is it custom only

[@RandomStuffYT1]

Love your videos

[@buildshow]

Thanks!

[@sptrader6316]

There needs to be a retrofit kit, for existing doors that don't seal properly.

[@0x00C0FFEE]

Great video! Any recommendation for other safety door and window brands to look into?

[@Aepek]

Cool & NICE

[@kubtastic]

The paradox of obsolescence: today's newest technology will most likely be obsolete first.

[@buildshow]

Yes but when this dies you’d never know it was there as the door works normally with a key and nothing shows it’s a smart lock.

[@kev24k]

@@rogerhornby1149when the batteries die, you can unlock with a key

[@Hubris2]

@@kev24k A decent key at that. The vast majority of smart locks have a terrible physical backup. This setup still has potential vulnerabilities to both physical and digital attack, but it's unlikely to be a 30 second bypass.

[@munsters2]

Looks good but the deadbolts look a little short. Might be vulnerable to frame spreader.

[@PosiP]

I love this.

[@karlhalvorson]

Really hard to find online info on Entry Sync or whatever you call it. Would be helpfull if you provide a link.

[@spazoq]

Send this to the lockpicking lawyer, bet he can beat it with a puff of air from his mouth and a piece of paper..

[@bobjoatmon1993]

Why try to cram this system into a thin door? This is the type of thing that belongs in the doorjamb which can be sized to fit during construction or modification AND could be set up to lock BOTH sides so a hinge side attack wouldn't work either. I've seen several house entryways where the security door AND doorframe were knocked in because it was only attached to the wall framing with 3 screws on each side.

[@50sguy84]

Why does everyone install hardware in the door that grips the frame instead of installing the hardware in the door frame and gripping the door? A frame mounted system would eliminate most size limits of the hardware and make charging the batteries easier. I, personally, have no problem with the lock being mounted on the wall.

[@Ponchodvr4lfe]

This works with standardized hardware. One-off solutions like you suggest are typically expensive to make, market, install and repair.

[@rockyg1987]

How about electronic deadbolt compatible

[@rongotte4680]

Very Cool!

[@ZombieLinux]

It would be super awesome if the bluetooth bridge had a local API option, that way it could work without internet or cloud dependence and integrate with things like HomeAssistant.

[@tonytango6676]

Or Hubitat. Smile

[@betterhomesnc2437]

Why not integrate a smart combo lock on it.

[@MikeCaskey]

What about sliding and bi-fold patio doors? Is there a recommended smart and/or keyless solution for those?

[@aaro_n]

What about if the batteries die??

[@kaine2416]

I live like 20 minutes from Endura!

[@larrytinnin3357]

Looks like ur routing out a good portion of the edge of the door, I will kick through the door

[@Justusson]

The hinges though, they are on the outside. There should be some locks there as well.

[@tcoradeschi]

That’s not a real install, Chris. You would never hang a door that way on an actual residence.

[@Justusson]

@@tcoradeschi Like what? One has to go by what is presented. I really hate presumptions comments like these where on presume something in favour of their beliefs, and not what they don’t want to believe in. Regardless of how it’s hung: the locks on the side of the hinges are missing.

[@tcoradeschi]

@@Justusson I guess what you're missing is that the company in question doesn't make doors. They make door hardware, in this case, specifically, the latch system. The video and the hardware in it reflects that reality. I'm not sure what your comment about what I "don't want to believe in" is intended to reflect. But it's your opinion, and you're certainly entitled to it.

[@Justusson]

@@tcoradeschi Still. I’m missing the locks on the other side of the door. If you have weak or visible hinges there, 100 locks wouldn’t be enough on one side.

[@christopherbeddoe406]

Cool door.

[@MrKwbell]

Will this comply with windstorm requirements?

[@corinaromero5599]

Too bad they don't make doors already routed for this system it can make you feel safe in tornados.

[@rodschmidt8952]

Does Endura make any products for Dutch Doors?

[@efransophoto]

Multipoint locks are flimsy, often not serviceable, and costly & time-consuming to replace. A deadbolt and latch is all you need

[@thomaspepper2201]

Sorry ANY RESIDENTIAL DOOR IS JUNK, they are foam filled, or particle ,saw dust then covered by aluminum skin or vegetable can tin. To get a good door it must be Commercial steel, with a push button mechanical NOT COMPUTER CONTROLED. These doors have 4-5in hinges with ball bearing also. They can also have smash proof glass. Price $1500 and up, the only thing you do with it is oil the hinges for your life or paint it. Any residential door you can put your boot threw it or 4x4

[@TheDesmoMan2012]

Excellant !

[@rogerhuston8287]

Actually, the best thing about these security doors is how well they keep out emergency personnel. Have a heart attack, don't worry, you're going to die because people can't get in to help you. Think I'm exaggerating? My brother-in-law is a paramedic in Switzerland. All doors are big and heavy so they seal well. Even being prepared with special tools, it can take a firefighter an extra 2 min to gain entry. In the US, it will be much longer as they are unprepared.

[@Hybridog]

If you can call the paramedics, you can unlock your door with your phone.

[@rogerhuston8287]

@@Hybridog So in your world all emergencies start with you calling the paramedics?

[@dannymoore7835]

Why are you guys still using wood doors. Here in Uk Upvc door 5 point locking like 500 to 1000 pounds for a door lasts for a life time. Or have I missed something

[@InkwellFoto]

Can this be used on double metal doors?

[@bulletyorkpa7850]

Funny how they can figure all this stuff out but can't figure out how to seal the tops and bottoms of doors at the factory.

[@brada1803]

Doors are fun!

[@Bucksturdie]

All the fancy door security seems kind of pointless without using something like hammer glass on all your lower level widows to match it.

[@james.telfer]

A ballistic film or just laminated double glazing will be effective too.

[@MikeCaskey]

Since the hardware can be selected separately, which keyless (maybe biometric or keypad) hardware is recommended?

[@maciejfassa4394]

Anybody tried Dako doors? I am wondering about them.

[@virgil3241]

Can the ugly brass handles be hidden to :-)

[@grod1360]

Very cool

[@alschumaker1859]

I wanted to watch this but Matt kept interrupting the expert instead of letting him explain the features of the latches and locks. I've seen enough just 3:18 into this video. Let the guy do his job!!

[@overpricedsundown]

…but the 2 x 4 did penetrate the door 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@paulklasmann1218]

Are these locks available in Germany?

[@tokencivilian8507]

Cool stuff. That said.......I'd like to see what the Lock Picking Lawyer thinks of this. :-)

[@PatrickPecoraro]

Sure but has it been pen tested?!

[@Lenser]

"Cops episode".

[@BenKlassen1]

Take my money

[@T_157-40]

Hacker code: Anything man made can and will be hacked!

[@jschreadley876]

Sounds like a great door, but I can see issues with firefighters, paramedics and cops trying to make entry for a person in need and who can't open the door for them.

[@mediocrehat]

I'm not a big believer in smart home stuff, because it basically just opens up security vulnerabilities. If someone is going to damage my home, I'd like to at least require they get off their lazy butt and physically travel here to do it. That said, I am both impressed and slightly annoyed by this one. I really like the clean look, but if you're building the entire door and jamb as a smart lock system, why use AAs? Couldn't you install say a single 18650 and then set up a charger that connects to the house wiring? I mean it would cost a bit more, but I can't imagine this is a cheap product anyway. You might need to get creative to bridge the gap at the hinge without too much visible wiring, but it's hardly some unprecedented technical challenge. Then you'd only need to change the battery when the 18650 for worn down which might only be every 5+ years.

[@tonytango6676]

Those batteries likely usually last six months to a year so it’s no big deal to replace them. My Schlage YRD216 batteries are still at 57% after about two years and then I don’t use my door that much.

[@mediocrehat]

@@tonytango6676 I mean you're right. It's not horrible. It's just that it's 2021 and we no longer need to run things on AAs. Cassette tapes still work fine, but digital music files are better. It also sort of bugs me as an engineer just conceptually to permanently install something that needs electricity into a house that has electricity, but then run it off a disposable battery that the owner has to replace. Basically they've created a thing that can have no power even when the house does. It just feels kinda silly. I've also been stuck outside a house that had one of these battery locks where the batteries had gone dead in February with 5ft of snow on the ground. That was unpleasant, and, has perhaps colored my view on this.

[@FlipnKraut]

@@mediocrehat conversely it would have power when the house does not. Fact is that power is not run to 99.99% of doorways. So requiring a consumer to run power in a retrofit scenario would alienate almost all consumers. Having a battery pack is an easy alternative to get their product in consumer hands.

[@mediocrehat]

@@FlipnKraut Well yes, it does have power when the house doesn't, but that can be easily accomplished using a rechargeable battery as I described, and that would last much longer, have more energy, and would charged whether the house did have power. That seems like best of both worlds. I agree with you in terms of installing smart locks in existing doors, but these guys seem to be selling a complete door and jamb with this system built in, so my assumption was that this is going into either new construction or a remodel, making running wiring not terribly difficult. To be clear though, I'm not proposing that all smart locks should be wired, but this system seems like it should. This isn't a homeowner DIY installation item.

[@BB-wj8dv]

And what happens to these plastic parts when someone actually uses a ram on it multiple times? Dropping a ram on a door is not equal to a man driving it into a door with his body weight. Plastic parts shatter, door locks drop. Let's not even get started with network security issues with "smart" anything. I would pay for something like this if it we're made of steel and brass. No go on cheap electronics, plastic and diecast parts.