(DON'T PAINT STUCCO)

[@billprezioso3677]

I’ve been painting for 40 years and stucco is probably the best surface to apply paint to because of its rough texture paint bond to it very well, and I have never seen properly applied paint fail on a stucco surface

[@cody7889]

You haven't seen my house! I'm pretty sure the former owner put on a coat of interior paint to sell it. It's peeling all over the place.

[@eddaher5682]

Tom, I’m not sure what part of the country you are referring to when you say “around here”. Conventional 3-coats stucco systems, which are widely used in western states of America, should not be painted because paint not only hold moister in the stucco system and delaminates the stucco but it also hides underlying issues. If a home has already been painted, I would recommend sand blasting the paint off then have a qualified stucco contractor apply a new stucco finish over the entire house. This will allow the stucco system to breath again and expose those underlying issues, like a leaky roof or deck.

[@chadcole74]

@@eddaher5682how much is the average cost to reapply new stucco after sandblasting off paint? I’m in southern CA. Thank you so much !

[@eddaher5682]

Different areas in Southern California will have different pricings. LA’s prices for re-stucco will be different from San Diego’s. I would suggest calling around to different stucco contractors in your area for estimates. Get at least 3 estimates and compare.

[@Itzretrogaming]

I use Elastermeric coating 555 for stucco…. 🤷🏾, the substraint did have too much pigment so we couldn’t guarantee it. But it worked elsewhere no problem… especially on my home. It is so beautiful. We did not brush and roll. We sprayed it as the material required an atomize fan when applying.

[@vince8723]

very interesting. im in vancouver canada. i never even paint wood. like you say it blisters as moisture tries to get out. i only use stain. never heard or the product you were referring. will look into it.

[@eddaher5682]

You are correct, if you have not done fog coating for any length of time it would be a difficult task to do a color match. It helps to know the exact color of the stucco before purchasing the fog coat material. A seasoned professional can match any stucco color, even if they don’t know what the stucco color is they are trying to match.

[@markfowler3594]

I spent almost a decade i the Northwest with an office in Vancouver BC. Fog coat canbe purchased through Imasco Minerals. However, it is rarley done up there, unlike here in So Cal. where it is rather common practice. Worked my way through college as a patch fog man form my fathers plastering firm. Painting stucco should be done with an acrylic that is vapor permeable to avoid blistering. I agree with Ed , it is not necessary to paint stucco to have it last or work , but can be done if done right. Paints have come a long way. Most Florida and many Arizona homes paint stucco rather than use dintegraly colored stucco. Stucco Manufacturers Assoc has Tech Papers on the issue .

[@luke9822]

What you do not address are the options for people who have cracks throughout their stucco. To repair that, you would need to coat it afterwards. What do you suggest in this instance? Acrylic stucco coat? Acrylic stucco also does not breathe. You also seem to be of the opinion that paint will hide a leak behind the cladding. I would assume paint will reveal it because the water will need to escape, causing paint damage. If no paint, you might not notice it, and then it ends up rotting your wood framing or making its way into the interior. You would also be a similar unaware situation with any other form of cladding if you had a leak behind the cladding.

[@eddaher5682]

After any repair of stucco cracks, on an unpainted 3-coat conventional stucco system, a fog coat of the same color should be applied over the crack area and not paint. An acrylic color coat over a conventional stucco system will act as a moisture barrier and not allow any moisture to evaporate through the wall. If moisture finds its way into the system, the only avenue for the moisture to escape would be to travel down the wall and escape through the weep screed. When a conventional stucco system gets wet it instantly turns dark in color, the same as a concrete sidewalk becomes instantly dark in color when it gets wet from rain. If a home has a second story balcony and the underside of that balcony was of unpainted stucco, you would be able to see the moisture stain on the stucco right away, in the event of a deck leak. This would alert the home owner of the leak in a timely manner before the wood substrate became damaged. If the underside of the deck was painted it would conceal those moisture stains for several months before causing the paint to delaminate.

[@eYeSoN3691]

Look you just have to add a bonding agent and than paint I live in Az and do this for a living I can assure you it’s just fine!!

[@phelanisserelaford5426]

Thank you so much for this video. You did an excellent job.

[@eddaher5682]

Thank You!

[@ernestogonzalez17]

Very informative!

[@aidansiperke4601]

this helped me grow my business in 3 seconds. went from lame loser to big time boss in under a moment thanks so much ed

[@tomnoyb8301]

Once painted, then what? Unpainted stucco is rare around here. So you buy a house, it's already painted; what's to be done?

[@dewboy910]

Either spend the money to have the paint removed via sand blasting or just use a good paint when it is time to paint.

[@21boxhead]

@@dewboy910 or just paint it every 10-20 years

[@Ireland-bc2gx]

Other than acrylic finishes like sto,dryvit every home and commercial here in Florida are painted, back in the 80s they did color coat,now Florida is a cash cow for the corporate Paint companies

[@birddogtrail]

What you say is true unless the stucco is properly primed and back rolled with an ultra premium stucco primer

[@dthorne4602]

No, it is true if the building has a traditional stucco finish. It should not be painted.

[@el_guero0958]

If the finished coating is a Stuccoat Dryvit, could I use acrylic based paint, like Demandit, from what i read, that should allow the stucco to breath.

[@eddaher5682]

When using Dryvit (EIFS) as a cladding you can use any type of paint product. In my video I refer to the three coat stucco system which is sensitive to paint because of its high percentage of lime. Lime tends to retain moisture (it’s hydroscopic) and if the paint seals in moisture, later when the surface heats up and moisture vaporizes seeking to escape, it causes blisters, bubbles, or breaks in the paint or coating. Moisture in a finish coat behind the paint needs to be able to (breathe) vaporize and escape through the finish.

[@el_guero0958]

@@eddaher5682 okay, thank you for clarifying that.

[@dthorne4602]

The only paint you sgould ever use on traditional stucco is "lime paint". Basically Impossible to find in USA, but you can make your own if you are really serious about it.

[@dewboy910]

My stepfather had a masonry stucco privacy wall built and in only 15 years, it looked terrible. It yellowed and cracked at almost every cinder block gap and looked terrible. I'm going with an elastameric paint that is highly rated. I'm not impressed at all with stocco. I AM impressed with how hard it is! I can't even cut it with a masonty grinder blade! Probably the reason it's cracked all over. Extremely hard but brittle. Our wall should be super easy to paint, compared to putting on more stucco, which won't address the problem with all the cracks. The wall looks more like a spider web!

[@21boxhead]

get some good primer before painting

[@dthorne4602]

Not impressed with stucco? No it sounds like you are not impressed by improperly applied stucco. Stucco is one of the best and longest lasting finishes humans ever invented.

[@21boxhead]

@@dthorne4602 I GOT ONE COAT STUCCO WITH 1/4 THICK BASE COAT I FEEL LIKE I GOT SCAMMED

[@littlelulu7403]

Can we use stucco for bathroom floor?

[@eddaher5682]

No, it doesn’t have the tensile strength as Thinset Mortar which is used under floor tile.

[@RogerNegrete-lh1xt]

No use cement with cement color add.stucco will crack.you can use smooth coat stucco for the walls.

[@spibip]

So you’re saying that the stains pn my house is a good thing 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@mirekklemens662]

Your video is Super. 👌 Thank you. ❤️ New Subscriber.👍 Regards from New York. ( I'm on KZbin too)

[@eddaher5682]

Thank You!!

[@rob12449]

what about stain instead of paint?

[@eddaher5682]

rob12449,Why use stains when you can fog coat an existing stucco color coat with any color you desire. If a color is not available over the counter an experienced stucco contractor can customize any color of choice.

[@rob12449]

@@eddaher5682 I just think it would be simple and actually I did this once and it seemed to hold up. I would hate the peeling cracking of paint but if this would avoid that I'd be happy.

[@christianmarloncortazar8213]

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[@gund89123]

What product he is promoting?

[@benjamindiaz3596]

So what to do ?

[@eddaher5682]

I am guessing you have paint on your stucco. If you have any type of paint coating on your stucco it could be removed by sand blasting it off first. Then you would need to have a new finish coat of stucco reapplied to the house to bring back the texture you once had.

[@danny6265]

This video should be banned. I don’t know what real world experience this person has with building construction but it sounds like none. Stucco in its common form is cement and sand. Stucco is porous and absorbs water. If you don’t use the correct sealer prior to painting the paint may fail or the paint may fail if water gets in from behind. But if you don’t paint, the stucco will absorb water and rust the wire lathe causing the stucco to crack and spall. Even worse it may migrate beyond and effect any rebar in window sills lintels on block homes. This guy must live in Arizona. Here in Florida our most common issues with spalling are because homeowners fail to maintain there paint allowing it to chalk and lose its water resistant nature. Or when window installers retrofit windows and do not properly waterproof the opening. Water and metal lathe or rebar don’t mix and stucco is NOT WATER-RESISTANT its water absorbing unless you add an acrylic additive like in Effis or similar. THIS IS BAD INFORMATION!!!

[@eddaher5682]

I appreciate your feedback; all comments are welcome. You are correct; I am located on the west side of the U.S. I agree with what you commented on regarding the 3-coat stucco system. Stucco is comprised of cement, lime and washed aggregate, and is porous. If subjected to an abundance of moisture it will rust the 17-gauge galvanized wire. In western states, a homeowner would have had to spray their stucco walls while their sprinklers were running to maintain the moisture in their landscaping for this to happen. I cannot speak for residences in Florida. I am sure things are totally different there. Unfortunately, any type of paint coating has a way of hiding underlying issues. If a home has a second story balcony and the underside of that balcony is stucco, you would be able to see moisture stains on the stucco if the deck had a leak. If the underside of the deck was painted it would conceal those moisture stains. The home owner would never know that they have a deck leak. This holds true with a roof leak as well.

[@Gerstberger]

awesome thanks

[@alltr111]

Hi ,I see you mentioned fog coat .I have a colour coat on top of stucco and a blister patch has come off.what is the best way to repair .can I buy fog coat to patch it.

[@eddaher5682]

MM, Since Fog Coat doesn’t contain sand to give it the strength needed to prevent it from cracking it should never be used for repair purposes. It is designed to either refresh or change the color of an existing stucco color coat. You may want to consult a stucco contractor in your area for his correct approach to repairing your specific patch.

[@alltr111]

@@eddaher5682 Thanks Ed wish I could send a picture to show.

[@Andy44Andy]

You are wrong. Most expensive to maintain every 3 to 5 years. Never ever buy stucco homes.

[@brianburt8817]

You crazy, or selling something. Stucco is very very low maintenance.

[@FruitsandflowersBeaumont]

I'm genuinely curious what did you have to do in every 3-5 years? We have a 40 years old house, and nothing was done to it in 20 years, i just want to know what to look for

[@brianburt8817]

Only 40? 110 year old stucco on mine. Every 5-10 years I patch a few cracks in a couple hours...

[@Couture.m]

My vote is to paint.Stucco because it's a moisture barrier

[@eddaher5682]

You are correct; paint can act as a moisture barrier. Unfortunately, paint has a way of hiding underlying issues. If a home has a second story balcony and the underside of that balcony is stucco, you would be able to see moisture stains on the stucco if the deck had a leak. If the underside of the deck was painted it would conceal those moisture stains. The home owner would never know that their deck is leaking. This could become a safety hazard if the wood substrate was so rotted that the deck is rendered unsafe.

[@dthorne4602]

That is why you shouldn't paint stucco, it breathes and allows water to move out freely if any damp occurs

[@Mickey_Bauer]

Don't paint stucco, unless your HOA assholes send you a letter saying you have 2 weeks to paint your house 😏 Of course i painted it, i never new that stucco shouldn't be painted 🤦‍♂

[@Mickey_Bauer]

Oh never mind, mine has some kind of styrofoam inside so i guess it's a synthetic stucco (EIFS) and can be painted...

[@eddaher5682]

If your stucco system is of EIFS (Exterior Insulation Finish System) it’s okay to paint. If your stucco is of the 3-coat conventional system, painting should be avoided. If the 3-coat conventional is your stucco system maybe you should forward my video to your HOA.

[@Mickey_Bauer]

@@eddaher5682 It definitely has some kind of foam inside but the outside seems hard like cement. It's not soft when i push it. There's also a metal thing on the bottom with holes in it for drainage. I think it's some kind of EIFS but i can't quite identify it, there are a few different ones...

[@zookini]

The fact is that matching a fog coat is nearly impossible, while painting a match is easy.

[@brentwatier6654]

It definitely requires experience & patience